/nsg/ 卐 - National Socialism General

卐 - EXPOSING THE CULTURAL MARXIST AGENDA
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>The Frankfurt School of Social Research and the Pathologization of Gentile Group Allegiances
http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/chap5.pdf
>Cultural Marxism
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism
>Cultural Marxism: The Corruption of America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIdBuK7_g3M
>Erich Fromm, Judaism and the Frankfurt School
http://pages.gseis.ucla.edu/faculty/kellner/Illumina%20Folder/kell24.htm
>Frankfurt School
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School
>Frankfurt School of Social Research
http://jettandjahn.com/2010/10/frankfurt-school-of-social-research/
>The Frankfurt School & Cultural Marxism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghx3d1GiAc0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkcy7256tBM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG6TcYfpQOg
>The History of Political Correctness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acjIw7cVc2k
>How a Handfull of Marxist Jews Turned Western and U.S. Culture Upside Down
http://davidduke.com/how-a-handfull-of-marxist-jews-turned-western-and-us-culture-upside-down/
>The Jewish Frankfurt School and the End of Western Civilization
http://www.dailystormer.com/the-jewish-frankfurt-school-and-the-end-of-western-civilization/
>The New Dark Age: The Frankfurt School and "Political Correctness"
http://www.schillerinstitute.org/fid_91-96/921_frankfurt.html
>Who Stole Our Culture?
http://www.wnd.com/2007/05/41737/
>The Frankfurt School and Its Legacy
http://www.morveninstituteoffreedom.com/FrankfurtSchool.pdf
>Critical Theory (Cultural Marxism) and Jewish Thought
http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/theology/events/2013/critical-theory-and-jewish-thought.aspx
>Fallen Jews, Critical Theory, and Cultural Marxism
https://originsofleftism.wordpress.com/2015/01/16/notes-fallen-jews-critical-theory-and-cultural-marxism/
>Bill Whittle on the Narrative: Political Correctness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrt6msZmU7Y

卐 - Jews in High Places
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>200 Years together by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
https://my.mixtape.moe/adkmzj.pdf
>Germany Must Perish by Kaufman
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/File:Germany_Must_Perish.pdf
>The Soul of a Jew and the Soul of a Non-Jew
http://www.hakirah.org/Vol%2016%20Balk.pdf
>Rome and Jerusalem by Moses Hess
https://archive.org/details/romeandjerusale02waxmgoog
>The Jewish Century by Yuri Slezkine
https://www.docdroid.net/kXW5Tab/yuri-slezkine-the-jewish-centurybookzzorg.pdf.html
>You Gentiles by Maurice Samuels
https://archive.org/details/YouGentiles_414
>Steinlight: 'The Jewish Stake in America's Changing Democracy'
http://cis.org/articles/2001/back1301.html
https://archive.is/2najE
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https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-big-media/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-senate/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-economy/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-congress/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-goldman-sachs/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-ivy-league/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-news-part-1/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-news-part-2/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-think-tanks/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-supreme-court/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-wall-street-part-1/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-wall-street-part-2/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-state-department/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-treasury-department/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-american-international-group/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-federal-reserve-system-part-1/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-federal-reserve-system-part-2/

There are many simple things in the world. Shovels. They are all different. Gardening shovel, unloading shovel, children's shovel. But there is also a different shovel. We use it when we come to the position. In short time, it helps us dig a trench which saves us from bullets. If a tank will pass over the trench, there is a high probability that it will not cause any harm to the soldier. We dig in the ground. Deeper. And then connect the trenches with our friends to the left. In just a few hours, trenches are all connected. When we do not have an axe, we can use a shovel to cut a loaf of bread. A soldier uses a shovel as a paddle, crossing the wide river under enemy fire. If we run out of ammunition...we will use the shovel again. And then we'll move on. And when we get the order to stop..we will take a shovel again, and build around us an impregnable fortress. This fortress is defended by the army of Ukrainia, our army..

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Exactly 30 years ago today, Rudolf Hess hung himself in Spandau prison. He spent 46 years behind bars because he flew to Britain to broker peace.

When Germany and the USSR invaded Poland in 1939, the goal was to eliminate Irgun terrorists. In 1940, the USSR attempted to annex Finland, and annexed the Baltic countries - yet, Germany is remembered as the bad guy.

Germany moved forces into Denmark and Norway in 1940 to protect the countries against Soviet invasion. In 1941, the UK and the USSR invaded Iran.

France had fallen to literal anti-fascists in the form of Leon Blum and the Popular Front, who won the 1936 French elections. This antifa government and the French colonial empire would continue until the German invasion of France in 1940.

The UK in 1940 first occupied the Faroe islands - supposedly to protect it from the Germans, just as the Germans claimed to be protecting Denmark and Norway. However, in April, the UK bombed 8 German ships in Norway.

So, when Hess flew to the UK to broker peace in 1941, he did so after Germany had lost ships to British aggression, and the British had formed a cabal with the Soviets to invade Iran, the Baltic countries, and who knows what else.

The Irgun bombing people in Germany, Poland and the USSR were run by the same Jews who formed the Weimer republic, and who pushed the Popular Front to power in France. When Germany refused to submit to international Jewish rule, they destroyed it.

Just like today, BLM and Antifa are starting the hostilities;

>https://www.cbsnews.com/news/you-voted-donald-trump-yelled-man-beaten-chicago-streets/

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I'm so tired of it all brothers

When will it end?

> Purge degeneracy

That means no more porn, bros. No more being overweight. Get up at 5 am every day and work out. No more junk food. No more masturbation, or sex outside of marriage. No more vulgar language. No more fantasizing about committing violence. No more biting your nails or picking your nose. No more vidyas. Heck, even spending too much time on 4chan is pretty degenerate. No more coffee, no more drinking, no more smoking. No more staying up too late. No more growing your hair out long. No more picking your zits or cleaning your ears with your fingers. No more having dirty feet that smell bad. You must brush and floss and shower every day. Warm showers are degenerate also.

Get to work, boys.

>>137985966

It will end once every nazi goes back under whatever shit filled holed you guys came from.

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>>137986254

>>137986065
This has literally never been advocated by anyone outside of an anchorite's cell. What are you doing here anyway?

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I come here everyday and I lurk most of the time, but I just wanted to say that I love you guys, it's been a couple of years since I first started to come on /pol/, and these threads are by far my favorite. Thank you guys for showing me the light in these dark times, I'm sure that Hitler is proud of us.

>>137986601

Just reading through your degenerate articles ;)

Good documentary on how corporations changed America and the West, and why a free society will always fall to inner violant and sexual vices especially if it's in a capitalistic setting.

It is like 4 hours though, but it's entertaining, and only a little muh holocaust in there. And it does have episodes this is just them all in one big video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ3RzGoQC4s

The best redpill I've ever read is Hitler's Revolution by Richard Tedor. Buy it if you haven't.

>>137986065
sounds good in theory but we're human after all
getting up at 5 every day isn't sustainable btw unless you go to sleep at 9 pm which is bs

So, do you guys listen to Wagner?

>>137987355
Lately I've been listening to his speeches and debates during Cardio at the gym
Motherfucker was right about everything
Everything he said was going to happen has happened and then some
Everything he says rings truer today more than it ever has before

>>137985057
Tell me what you guys think of Free Market Capitalism

The entire world is against us and our backs are against the wall.

What do we do without drowning in a pit of blackpills?

I'm tired.

>>137987723
so basically a natsoc Ron Paul?

>>137985057
Charlotteville was a victory, NAZISM IS THE FUTURE.

>>137988050
Lay low and survive, don't give in to media's lies. One day we WILL hold power and when that day come's you'll be glad you stuck to your guns.

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>>137985057
Ok. Let's discuss

>>137987855
Bad, internationalist,always supports cheap labor immigrants,degenerates people since the masses can't rally think too hard for themselves. Fascism is just free market capitalism without the shit parts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsAIuAMjzsc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1hS_N2QQjc

National socialism is still socialism. Your ideology is just a spin off of communism. The fact that you morons got suckered into this shit is hilarious. Just because something is anti-jew doesn't mean that it's right about everything else. You can be anti-Jew and anti white genocide without adopting the retarded ideology of Nazism. LARPers, all of you. I am only consoled by the fact that you are all to stupid and incompetent to ever put yourselves in a position of power.

>>137987855
It is a good system in theory but there is nothing stopping corporations from becoming too large and monopolizing; either by de facto (brainless drones who buy literal dogshit if it has an Apple logo on it) or government assistance: it's monopolizing none the less
It also doesn't protect from those who would otherwise seek to profit off degeneracy (porn, tobacco, prostitution, etc) and contribute to the moral decay and apathy of the new almighty god: money

Unbridled Hedonistic Capitalism (aka, The Free Market) will never exist and can never exist unless you want the world to decay into apathetic and decadent deviants

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>>137987855
A certain degree of individualism is necessary, but the economy must serve the goals of the nation, not become a tyrant towards its people. Free market is a good idea on paper, but pure individualism turns brothers against each others. But if you want to start a small store, you're free to do so as long as it benefits the people in some way. Just don't become a huge corporation and stay of the state's business

>>137988426
check the video above you on their economics silly shill,

we get one of you retards everythread

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>>137988426
>Your ideology is just a spin off of communism
lel

>>137988335
>Here's why it's okay for Blacks to be racist against Whites but not vice versa
Whoever wrote this needs a lobotomy stat

>>137987532
>not listening to Wagner's teacher.

Try playing this from a helicopter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2i_Ja0FTCKY

>>137988110
Except he was right about EVERYTHING

SIEG HEIL!

>>137986065
This
Become the perfect ideological image of the movement
A shining example of who we are and what we believe
The Shining City on A Hill so that none has room for insult or dissent

>>137987723
It's time to stand up for your people and family.

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>>137987855
In all honesty
I WISH AnCap and Free Market Capitalism could be possible; but it only exists in the philosophical world. I started off as a Libertarian but (((they))) made me go this way because they didn't want to leave me the fuck alone
Once you step into the land of the realistic empirical, you will see

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>>137989549
Same. I was never an AnCap but I always found it to be a beautiful utopian ideology.

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Anyone know if pic related is a good read?

>>137988513
nothing wrong with a huge corporation as long as it doesn't act against the people
see the big German auto brands for example, they were all large corporations during the 3rd Reich

>>137989271
I can't do that if my life isn't in order and I'm not strong; mentally and physically
We aren't even at the point where we can do anything politically as a movement; all dissent from the normal "allowed" political discourse is shut down as "racist", "homophobic", "xenophobic" and etc

If anyone really cared for the movement, they would do as I: lift, get your life in order, get a career, and wait for the fanatic leftists to slowly push normies to our side and shift the overton window

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Kill all commies

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>>137989725
>>137989549
I actually prefer national socialism's economic plan. I always liked to share things with the people I love, the feeling of giving to a friend in help is more rewarding to me than having tons of material possesions. Maybe I'm just weird, I still like to have a certain degree of individual proprety tho

>>137985057
SIEG HEIL

Your system doesn't work because you ignore the real problem of capital to focus on nonproblems like race

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>>137990195
I thought Stalin pretty much managed to already do that.

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Okay, so aside from the amazing Rockwell video, can someone give me a written doctrine of NatSoc ideology/philosophy so I can decide if I'm actually NatSoc these days?

>>137990616
>race
>a nonproblem
Don't you have a bull to be prepping?

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>>137989949
As long as they exist with the premise to provide the people with the best possible product they can at a realisticly fair price not what (((maximizes profit))). Slight sacrifice for the greater good means everyone is investing to further the nation and ultimately the people living in the nation. (People can afford cheaper better cars, they can afford to go to work, therefor more productivity, and therefor more GDP, better living conditions, etc)
Ford had the same work-model and we all know how good the relationship between Ford and Hitler was

Tyranny by large corporations is just as dangerous as Tyrany by the state (See, Google, Youtube, Apple, etc)
They don't exist to provide people with the best product or experience possible at a fair affordable price; they exist to maximise how thickly the coffers are lined with the gold of the ignorant

>>137990616

*blocks your path*

Racism AND means of production. Internationalist useful idiot of the bourgeoisie gonna cry?

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>>137990695
Long read, but here you go.

>>137985966
Soon, brother.

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>>137989949
Huge corporation that are owned by the state are even better, that way the state can prevent any greedy attempt to rise the cost of a service/product and it's a good way to limit taxes, since all the monetary gains are going in the state's budget. But corporation without limits can become bigger than the state and represent a danger to the nation itself

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>>137989868
Speaking of this, what's y'alls opinion on the Northwest Front?

>>137985057
How do I fight this blackpilled mood I have been in since Charlottesville? I see these statues, our history, being torn down by apes and self-hating whites. (((corporations))) cracking down like never before, Trump under fire like never before. I need to regain my will to fight the degeneracy within myself as well

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Reminder we will make 30/40K real

>>137990825
Thanks comrade.

>>137991264
Think it's a great idea, but the NW still seems to controlled by lefties for me to feel /comfy/ living there.

>>137991264
Harold Covington is alright I guess. System has been killing off his guys for a while

>>137990311
I am the same brother, that is why National Socialism instantly clicked when I was first introduced to it. The feeling of accomplishment I get from watching others succeed thanks in part to my contribution is beyond any kind of joy I feel from an extra couple dollars on my paycheck. I will gladly sacrifice a portion of what I don't necessarily need for the benefit of someone I love and care about. It's part of the reason I volunteer at a veteran's soup kitchen in my spare time

I would rather have an average livable wage post-taxes if I knew my taxes would go to those in need who I cared about (my people). If all my immediate NEEDS (not wants) in life are cared for, I am content. This is why I hate the system in America because my taxes go to feed the lazy, unmotivated, and undeserving while I slave away for less and less pay.

>>137985057
Feeling blackpilled senpai

weird seeing all my normie friends and family post all over Facebook that they want to punch nazis for goodboy points. if they knew about me, would they punch me? probably not, but still. it feels like when i released a rap album in middle school and everyone made fun of me for a year

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>>137990616
Is this b8?

>>137991949
My kikebook got shoahed over the weekend after posting pic related with a blerb about how the police pushed /ourguys/ into the enemy Saturday. I think it's safe to assume they know now. Getting some real push back form my mother, my father thinks it's a lost cause but we could make ground pushing for immigration and welfare reform.

Haven't spoken to any other family yet tho. I think you'd be fine, and if not it's okay, we're your family now.

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>>137991399
>>137991949
Just know that the more fanatical the Left becomes, the more normies will shift to our side. Charlottesville was an absolute PR shitstorm, but it will die down as it always does

It actually gave me opportunities to talk to my right-leaning normie friends who were celebrating kicking Nazi ass. I just told them "Americans don't know shit about history" and showed them pic related, as well as dropping major redpills about Patton and the American attitudes towards Hitler/Germans post WWII (Like JFK)

Even if the redpilling process is slow, there is always ways to capitalize on it even if it seems (keyword here) like the media is "winning"

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>>137992315
forgot the pic

>>137985057
I wish my state didn't have such draconian laws concerning political party formation. They are blatantly favoring the two-party system and getting any sort of official recognition or ability to stand in elections requires thousands of signatures. I was toying with (probably more of a fantasy, tbqh) of making a party of national socialist principals but distancing from Nazi LARPING (e.g. Charlottesville), to help with normies

>>137988335
This argument is quite worn and tired, but if the left insists on bringing this one up again, I suppose I can oblige. The reason why white identity is acceptable for Americans is the same reason Boer identity is acceptable for South Africans, and Australian is acceptable for those of European decent living in Australia.

The pan-European argument doesn't work for the US because Americans are not Europeans; we're ethnic cousins, and this connection is important from an existential perspective, but politically speaking we're too mixed genetically, and too distinct culturally to claim European identity.

>>137991949
We're your family now.

The colder it is outside the warmer it should get in here senpai.

You'll be alright kamerad

>>137991065
kek

>>137987723
>>137987355
The 50th anniversary of his death is coming up in just a couple days. I'll probably light a candle in remembrance.

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>>137991634
I feel the exact same way about modern capitalism, money keeps going to the people who have already much more than they need, and yet, they keep stealing from the poor. I had the luck to be raised in a middle class family, but my dad was always gone because he worked non-stop to provide for us and to make sure that we didn't miss anything, I went to a private high school (all the public school were I lived are full of non-whites who hate us and communist teachers) and each day I saw people who were sleeping in the streets complaining about people like my dad who always worked hard to succed, while our true ennemy was above us and getting more rich as time passes. When I first saw Hitler's speech on socialism, something in me told me that it was my duty to become like this man, to help my people, and to give a hand to those in need. I don't have much free time because of college, but I'm saving some money to give to a local foundation that help poor families educate and feed their kids. Thanks for the reply kamaraden, we must never lose hope ! One day the world will know the truth.

>>137992873 #
George Lincoln Rockwell vs Stokely Carmichael (MLK Jr Diversity type)
Major redpills about race and identity in this one; it's about an hour long or so

https://youtu.be/q4av8z8WEZM
https://youtu.be/5llWbvfES5Q
https://youtu.be/xcI_S94j9og
https://youtu.be/gySJ8hv_nt0
https://youtu.be/hQrS-TSOsKI

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>>137992441
this
antifa will backfire and put natsocs in power eventually

>>137993439
this is really good.

>>137992441
The Left is in absolute tantrum mode right now with their destruction of our history. Does anyone know the attitude of the general public towards the removal of the statues?

>>137990825
so I'm reading through this and I have immediate concern with the concept of NO electing process. I understand the logic behind it, but what happens if a man becomes too power hungry and takes a iron grip on everything and goes full Stalin and has everyone questioning everyone about their loyalty to the cause so and he uses that to abuse him power?

How do we replace him or ever bring up that thought if it's just going to give us a date with the gallows?

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>>137993337
Take this adorable traditional virgin qt anon
The day will come when we can live on our own farms and have many beautiful children with our loving wives

>>137993765
I saw an infograph poll posted of people who disagreed with defacing historical statues that read something like
>76% Republicans
>57% Independents
>17% Democrats
Tearing down statues is a PR nightmare and the more the nigs nog and prove us right, the better for our cause. I'm wondering why Republicans are so low though, statistically high but seeing anything less than 90% is appalling. More proof conservatives are fucking useless drones

>>137985057
MAGA

>>137995117
Nah
MAWA >>137992501

>>137993970
Read further and you'll see there's a response to that issue.
>If he becomes unsuitable for his position at the top, whether it be because he becomes too foolish (read:Tyrannical) or too old, there is always a younger and smarter lion waiting to take his place.
>If the rights-granters and enforcers are corrupt or tyrranical, than the inferior must earn the right to become granters and enforcers themselves by demonstrating their superior character through revolution
Basically, only the one who demonstrates he can do whats best for the people rise to the top. If he becomes too tyrannical, he can be overthrown by a coup or revolt.

>>137995282
>He can be overthrown by a coup or revolt
Considering everyone in the nation would have their loyalties to the people AND everyone would be armed; this would shrink to a non-issue

It's like a king who knew his guards would turn on him the second he steps out of line. Do you think that King would betray his people?

>>137995067
There's a reason why Fascism has been called the Third Way. Conservatives are just as bad as the other side. Conservatives still bow to Israel, prop up corporations and are more for reform of immigration than halting it.

>>137995282
>>137993970
Basically, it's an elective monarchy, like the Roman Empire

>>137995282
>>137995468
>coup or revolt

Assuming he isn't executed for treason first. And secondly, that sound extremely detrimental to the nation and the folk. Countless lives lost because one man becomes mad with power and used his position to get everyone under him focused on everyone else.

>>137995534
I think having a Male only voting system with maybe some intelligence requirements would work better and be more peaceful in the bigger picture, which I feel would ultimately be better for the folk.

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>>137995067
Thanks a lot anon, she's going in my virgin qt folder. I often dream about that, having my own little farm, my traditionalist qt wife and 5 childrens, where the 2 older brothers would protect their little sisters. It used to make me sad, but now more than ever, it motivates me to create that future myself. But as time passes, I realize that I will have to take a major role in this, I need to become a leader for my people.

YES GOYIM keep pushing the natsoc angle, it's working!

>>137995956
It obviously is, just look at the Lügenpresse. Remember
>the Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you

>>137995825
See >>137995468
a tyrannical Fuhrer would most likely lose favour of his military and people and be quickly overthrown. As for using a popular vote restricted to men, it could work but all it would take is a few words from a Jew to get them to vote against the state (although the same could be argued by a non-public election)

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>>137995947
Do it for your People Anon
For you Nation
For your God
Do it for Him

>>137996472
>lose favor of his military and people
But if the media is heavily regulated, as is stated in that rundown, how would they truly know? It would appear as business as usual.

>few words from a Jew
I would agree with you, except for the fact that once the Jew has been removed from the state, or otherwise dealt with, it wouldn't be a problem because the Jew wouldn't have internal influence like it does now. It would all be from the outside and in a NatSoc/Folkish state the people would be aware of the Jew and their tricks.

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Bumping this absolutely based bread.

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>>137996713
I-I will, for my people, for my nation, for God, and to make him proud. I will succed and I will save my people, nothing will stop our movement, because God is behind us, and he hails our courage. Because our most precious possesion in this world, is our own people. Thanks a lot anon, I will never forget you

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Why doesn't antifa realize that all their beliefs are the beliefs of the corporate establishment?

>>137985057
I really wish with all of the 'New American Reich,' things going on, Texas would be included. This land is too rich in natural resources to give up, IMO.

>>137986065
> No more fantasizing about committing violence.
The rest is on the level, but
I'm not really sure how practical this point can be.
We've had such shit heaped upon us. How can we not sometimes wonder what it'd be like to strip the nigger of his clothes, his golden chains, his five "white honeys," and string him up by the lamp post.

Is this perhaps a call to moderation?

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>>137997631
I will show the light to the normies, and make them join our movement. Togheter we will hail everything our ancestors created, and everything we will create. Every race as the right to love itself, and I will show it to the world

>>137996994
>But if the media is hevily regulated, as it is stated in that rundown, how would they truly know? It would appear as business as usual.
The Fuhrer doesn't control the media, the Bureau of Media (or whatever it would be called) and it's Medienführer would. They see the Fuhrer getting too big for his britches, the media would pick up on it immediately and he'd be reprimanded or suceeded.

>>137997801
Did you listen to that new show on TRS with Mike and Johnny? Mike makes a comment about how antifa types are confused why so many corporations are agreeing with them and attacking/abandoning Trump.

I think some will learn and join our general movement. Others are too dumb

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>>137995825
Try to think of the Fuhrer as more of a figurehead, not a ruler
National Socialism is a PEOPLE-centric ideology, not state/ruler-centric like overt Fascism. National Socialism It isn't focused on who is ruling and is more concerned with ensuring that the state is serving the people well; not vice versa. The people of this society would also have this mentality and realize that, while the Fuhrer deserves respect and admiration, it is the people that ultimately are the focus of society

Unfortunately, we were never able to see how Hitler's National Socialist society would function outside of crisis times, but there are many here who believed that because of his writings in Mein Kampf, Hitler believed in a fascist collective dictatorship in times of trouble and a deregulated Libertarian paradise after threats have been removed and society has stabilized

It is partly why NatSocs and Libertarians/AnCaps share a certain symbiotic partnership on /pol/
In essence, we want the same thing (a highly moral and autonomous intelligent society), but NatSocs are a little bit more empirical and practical with how they wish to achieve this paradise

>>137997839
There's always the Texas Sepratist movement, which has a large following. Ultimately I think the US is bound to balkanize anyways.

>>137985057
You guys need to get rid of the shitty Nazi economics and authoritarianism desu. The means can be achievabled through other means. Also if you gonna reply, use a better argument than >lolbertarian.

>>137993337

So, I am older, high-IQ, STEM, and successful. I come from another high-IQ STEM dad, and he came from a high-IQ STEM dad.

My grandpa was upper middle class, my dad is bordering on the 1%, and I'm upper middle class.

I grew up as a solid republican conservative. We were nice to other people, but not especially community minded.

The more I was around people, the more I hated them. That drove me to libertarianism/ancap. I didn't want a ruler, because I had never met anyone qualified to rule.

Because I had no community; because I detested other people, it was all about "muh rights" and "muh individualism".

One thing I will say, however, is that "the deal" for Americans is shitty these days. Unless you won the genetic lottery of intelligence, and you had exceptional parents who were very involved, it's pretty hard in America.

I remember a good friend of mine who had a shitty family situation... after hanging out with me and my dad for a while... he told me, "it must be nice to have a dad who isn't a piece of shit". His dad was in jail. How's that for some feels?

There was once an America where an honest man could work hard, and find a wife who also worked hard [but not off the farm / outside the home], and together, they could raise a family of 8+ children, and those children could go to community supported school that taught them to love America; taught them to read, and higher maths, and practical skills. And that system found the best and brightest Americans, and funneled them towards great feats of engineering and human achievement, no matter their beginnings.

That system is gone.

Unless you've won the genetic intelligence lottery, or you have family connections, and an amazing intact parenting situation... it's really, really hard now.

We can go back.

>>137998235
nah i usually avoid TRS but i'll look for that one if its interesting

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>>137998442
>no arguments
quality post leaf

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>>137997631

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>>137997988
That's the spirit anon
Never let the fire go out
Never let that spark ever die

Never forget what started fighting for

>>137998195
But what if the Fuhrer already had the MedienFuhrer looking over his shoulder and wondering if someone else was watching him to see if he was disloyal to the Reich?

Stalin stayed in power so long because he was so paranoid that he had everyone else paranoid with him. Why couldn't the same thing happen in the Reich?

>>137998452
It was called Mike and the Hob or something like that. It was actually pretty /comfy/ compared to most stuff Mike is on. And I get why you stay away from there, you listen to the Fatherland right though? That's a real good one imo.

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>>137997988
HAIL VICTORY! AND HAIL THOSE DIGITS!

>>137998570
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2-jH1vFrW8
For starters.

>>137989549
>I started off as a Libertarian but (((they))) made me go this way because they didn't want to leave me the fuck alone
same

>>137998790
Well, then it's up to the others in a place of power to take the reigns. "There's always a younger, smarter lion waiting waiting to take his place."
Considering a love for one's nation, race and people is how you get into such a position, I don't think USSR-style Totalitarianism is a huge thing to worry about.

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>>137999115
>the case for libertarian fascism
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA fuck off.
>get rid of the shitty Nazi economics
I think the economics are the selling point tbhfam.

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>>137998448
I'm pretty lucky with genetics, high IQ and loving parents, but I will use these gifts to help other people succeed, I can't let myself act selfish, not in these dark times. No matter how hard it is, I will make our dream come true, not for fame, not for power, but because it is my duty. Thanks for sharing your story anon, we're pretty similar.
>>137998582
I will. Thanks anon

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>>137998790
I was briefly on TRS through American Vanguard involvement for a time, back when all the doxing and shit happened. Most people here don't realize all that went on, or how horribly the higher ups treated the rank and file while their own dirty laundry was being aired -- dirty laundry they shouldn't have been hiding to begin with. I just avoid their product, because they're traitors and liars, and I don't trust them not to stab the movement in the back the first chance they get if they need to to save their own skins. That's what they did to their loyal forum members, thats what they'll do to the pro-white movement. I don't trust any of them at all.

>>137999284
I usually have a lot of faith and optimism for people, but the American in me is too weary of such a system. Maybe for other peoples it would work, but for Americans, I can't see enough of us being okay with it.

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>>137998448
This would make an excellent Murdock Murdock script >>137998917
He just posted a new video earlier
It's good to see he's finally pushing through the Blackpill

I wonder if he is lurking right now and trying to get inspired by us, anons?
God Bless that man

Hail our People
And indeed
Hail Victory

>>137999584
do you have a copy pasta or a quick rundown for me?

I remember it came out Mike was married to a jew or some shit, but I wasn't in the community at the time aside from listening to Fash the Nation.

>>137999729
I don't know if he's hear right now, but he's with us in spirit. He's truly doing God's work.

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>>137999729

I take a great deal of comfort in these threads because they renew my faith that I am not alone and that one day we will indeed be victorious. Sieg Heil!

For those of you that are demoralized by the past days' events and by all the shilling, Murdoch Murdoch has a new video for up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odw2lyLPd24

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I wish Rockwell was alive today.

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>>137998780
>>137998917
HAIL VICTORY ! HAIL OUR PEOPLE ! Remember this post anons, because one day, I will succeed. And you will have given me hope for my dream. I already said it, but I will never forget this thread and you anons. Für mein führer, Für mein volk.

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>>138000219
He is. He's alive in all of us. His spirit lives on in the hearts and minds of anyone that would stand up and fight for his people. For our people.

Hail Rockwell.

>>137999590
For the entirety of America as it is, no it wouldn't work. There's almost no comraderie between the people, and the Jews have our hands so far down our pockets we'd stab our brothers in the back if it meant pinching a penny. That's why I say to bank on the eventual Balkanization of America (wether it be natural or forced.) I'm moving north some time in the near future to join the Northwest Front. The struggles of economic and societal hardship will band people together and NatSoc and other groups will grow in power.

>>137999450
I am pretty similar to you both as well but my father has fallen out of work thanks to automation and into disability thanks to declining health shortly after
If America didn't have some sort of social safety-net for those who would want to work but could no longer, we would be shit out of luck. Thankfully my mom got a STEM degree early in life and has been able to support us but the disability and early pension that my dad is receiving was a huge redpill into the power and comfort of individual-focused Socialism

Luckily, I worked my ass off in school to land myself a good career and am now working to also support the family through rent payments and such while they still allow me to live with them. Nothing feels more important on God's green earth than a loving, cohesive, like-minded, homogenous family

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>>137999888
>I remember it came out Mike was married to a jew
You know, at first I was even ready to forgive him for that. I think a lot of people were, they were just expecting a good explanation and an apology, maybe even a taking some responsibility by stepping down for a while so the community could process everything. Instead of anything like that, they released a show basically saying "yeah, we kicked people out for even having a tiny percentage of jewish ancestry or for race-mixing in the past before becoming redpilled -- but we're going to forget all that, and make an exception for Mike "because he does so much for the movement" or some shit. THEN, if anyone has a problem with it, we're going to delete their accounts and all their content from the forums, ban them, shun them, and smear them with weird implication that they're gay or FBI or infiltrators of some kind. If they don't shut up at that point, we'll threaten to dox them if we have their info.

Shit was a fucking nightmare at TRS during that time. I'm still shocked at how they dealt with the situation, they just attacked everyone in their own community who didn't immediately fall into line and just swallow whatever bullshit they were handed related to Mike. Now that all that dust has settled, i just try to forget about it all, but even now it makes me fucking mad just remembering how bad it was back then. More dirty laundry has come out since January, but TRS does a really good job suppressing it or bullying anyone who leaks on hypocritical or scandalous shit they do. TRS literally has its own Internet Defense for (the TRS Expeditionary Force) that works like the fucking JIDF attacking anyone who threatens TRS's image online.

>>138000542
I wouldn't mind NWF, but I like my snow too much and I like being by the ocean. I've thought long and hard about moving more inland, but it just feels wrong to me.

I'd probably move up to New Hampshire actually. Possibly start some kind of movement for New England, even thought it's probably too far gone at this point.

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>>137990695
>>137990825
>>137991490
>>137993970

That is NOT National Socialism. DO NOT FUCKING READ THAT RETARDED AUTISTIC SHIT

http://laraj.ca/AGwiki/uploads/Contemporary/IronmarchOriginals/IronMarch%20-%20A%20Squire%27s%20Trial.pdf

http://laraj.ca/AGwiki/uploads/Contemporary/IronmarchOriginals/IronMarch%20-%20Next%20Leap.pdf

READ THESE

>>138000219
He died too soon. He was martyred for our cause. His sacrifice will not be in vain.

>>137999590
The problem with American government is that we have been so trained, especially lately, with failed leaders and ingenuous demagogues to always distrust government. Almost all of my friends have this view; that the government is NOT out to profit us, and that the government is NOT out to benefit us

For the most part, of you are White; this has been true predominantly since the Civil War, and I understand the sentiment because I too, also thought along the lines

But it took hardship and alienation to discover what was truly important in my life; it all came together when I saw that I was not alone in my beliefs and struggles and that there are other people, likeminded, out there who share the same road

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Alright, I'm heading off for the night. I'll jump back on tomorrow, it sucks the only time /nsg/ can be kept alive is late at night here in burgerland, but at least it keeps out the shills.

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>>138000742
fugg. That changes a lot of things for me. I was never sucking their collective dicks or anything, but that really changes things. I have to meditate on this for a bit...

>>138000917
So which part of this >>137990825
do you say is inaccurate?

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Alright (((alt right))) let's get something straight. To those that have American citizenship why do you support nazism? Why is it that some people here can't form an original, radical movement of nationalism but cling to a regime whose soldiers in a few instances killed American POWs?

Likewise why is it that so many have a one sided view of world war 2? Those propaganda videos and shady websites sure tell the whole truth about ww2 in regards to who was right and who was wrong and that the holocaust actually didn't happen, right huh? But let's throw out all the testimonies of eastern europeans including Lithuanians and Ukrainians who murdered Jews by the hundreds with firearms along with the Nazis but they're obviously lying right? It's in no way possible that people actually shot machine guns into crowds of Jews and that hundreds of thousands soviet POWs starved to death and that many ostarbeiters suffered a grim end, right?

becuz hitler wuz a good boi and national socialism is totally alright as it's the radical type of ethno nationalism we need today, right huh?

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>>137998319
This post is fucking retarded.

National Socialism and Fascism possess the same worldview.

>>138001207
Everyone who got kicked out of TRS over the Mike debacle all wound up mostly on Ironmarch or over at a new forum called The Purity Spiral. I'm pretty sure TPS is mostly former TRS forum members who didn't survive the pro-Mike purges. I heard there was a second purge, and those people did this podcast later:
https://soundcloud.com/user-684478690/the-third-jimpact-the-third-jimpact

http://imgur.com/a/sIjls

>>138001041
I get that, but I've always been one to question power because I've always been able to explain why something an authority figure said was wrong, or had a better way of doing it than they explained to me and time and time again it made them angry instead of proud or anything and I was forced to do it their way instead "just because they said so"

That's something very deeply instilled in me that I'll never be able to get rid of.

>>138001352
First off, we aren't the Alt-Right. They are faggots and we reject them

Don't really care if subversive people who executed during war

>>138001481
Ironmarch is the place to go for real NS/Fascism. Their worldview materials are fucking outstanding

thanks for keeping these threads up, when the soft alt right fails, they'll have no choice but to see that natsoc is the only way

>>138001420
>National Socialism and Fascism possess the same worldview.
They're very, very close, but not identical. Fascist movements were generally less concerned with racial issues than Natsoc was. Even Mussolini essentially declared race non-existent and irrelevant to the nation. To be fair to them though, countries that were fascist usually didn't have the same problems with Jews because they dealt with their Jewish population back in the middle ages.

>>138001578
Yeah I like IM a lot. Its good people.

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>>138000581
I couldn't agree with you more anon, I'm happy to hear that your family is still ok dispite all that, I hope that your father will recover one day, he sounds like a great man. I'll go to bed, it's getting pretty late and that's a lot of feels for one night. Thank you anon, I feel more motivated than ever tonight, it's been a long time since I've been this happy. Goodnight anon, take care of your family, do it for Him.

A thought I had earlier today:

What do you chaps think of the occasional kike who claims to loath kikery? i.e., a Jew who hates Jews?

On the one hand, he's throwing his own people under the bus. On the other, I often want to see them under buses too.

It's conflicting.

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>>138001420
Thank you for this.

I view NS as basically racial fascism philosophically.

>>138001352
If you want to talk to the """alt-right""" go to /r/the_donald. We are strictly divorced with that jewish movement.

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>>137985057
Oi mates please don't bring nsdap flag or Roman salute to any events please
I know why you do it but please don't, try to look at the nigger picture here

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>>137993326
who is this?

>>138001420
Not quite, you can be a national socialist without entering fascism and vice versa.

>>138001678
I think that's confusing the outer manifestations of the worldview from the inner manifestations. Italian Fascism had a different outer manifestation due to being in a different nation in different circumstances. The worldview as a whole, one of truth, is the same

Also, Mussolini and the Italian Fascists DID have a racial conception, I'll point you to http://ironmarch.org/index.php?/topic/4333-italian-racial-concepts/&tab=comments#comment-93004 for short primary sources on the matter

>>138001420
Fascism binds the will of the people to serve the state
National Socialism binds the will of the state to serve the people

They share similar traditional world views, yes; but their focal point lies in completely different areas

>>138001931
This meme again. When will you idiots learn that cuckolding your symbology to appeal to retards will get you nowhere?

>>138002112
You are COMPLETELY misunderstanding the Italian Fascist conception of the state, which is inherently the same to National Socialism

For Italian Fascism, the state isn't merely an institution, but a FULL EXPRESSION of the people. The Italian Fascist state conception is an organic state, not an artificial one. The organic state cannot be separated from the Italian nation, blood and soil.

It's different wording for essentially the same concept

Have any fellow Natsoc anons heard of the Adolf Hitler Schools? I've heard the question postulated many times before about what would happen after Hitler's death. They seem to believe Germany would have collapsed under the weight of different factions vying for power. I personally believe the Adolf Hitler Schools supplied a solution for that eventuality.

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>>138001931
Another sadsac

>>138002150
What were the short and long term consequence of those actions, from your point of view? Or do real life consequences matter less than principles

>>138002262
If that is true definition of Italian Fascism then I suppose it does sound like National Socialism.

>>137986254
You're on the wrong board faggot

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>>138001759
Meine Ehre heißt Treue
Sieg Heil anon! Take care, good night, and stay safe out there

>>137985966
>>138000917
>defending a zionist terrorist in a natsoc thread
>has literally killed more white people in one setting than muslims have in years in europe
haha but kill traitors amiright? xDD

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>>138002537
Yeah, like I was saying they are the same exact worldview, as TRUTH cannot be separated and each are wordviews of truth. There is only different expressions of that truth due to different (national, cultural, economic, historical) circumstances. The Ironguard, The Falange, etc. are all manifestations of this truth as well

>>138002705
He came out as an open National Socialist and went under the guise of Zionism to protect ethno-nationalists

He is fully one of us

Also, a society gets the muslims it deserves. Muslims are just the symptom of the problem, but we know they wouldn't even be here if it weren't for traitors and jews.

Hail Commander Brevik

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>>138002534
It doesn't fucking matter, what the actions are. You're cuckolding the movement of its symbolism because you want to appeal to normies. You water down the message and the imagery because these people are lemmings, you give them the full package and they lose their sanity. Truth is, the lemming doesn't know and he doesn't want to know. Revolution (the end goal of this) is a spectator sport. The average man has been made so heavily dependent on the state that he, simply out of wanting to defend his luxuries provided to him by the establishment, would rather fight for them because they supply him with what he wants. The lemmings will never fight for us until the state fails to provide for them, be it through means of economic failure or because we topple the state. Only then will the lemming actually fucking listen, because he has nothing much to lose.

The day you fucking retards understand this is the day the "alt-right" stops being a kike ideology.

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>>138001980
Well, its not really it to say they're very very close -- maybe 90% similar economically and in terms of views of strength, etc -- but if Mussolini says something like:
>race doesn't exist, its 95% imaginary
...while Natsoc is busy developing this massive philosophy of racial and ethnic nationalism, then you see that their ultimate goals are going to be different. It means Fascism was open to a sort of fascistic civic nationalism, while Natsoc was not. These differences weren't enough to make them enemies or opposed, just not "identical" as some like to say.
>Also, Mussolini and the Italian Fascists DID have a racial conception
>Evola
I don't think its really accurate to claim Evola represented the Fascist movement's conception of race, especially not when Mussolini himself actually wrote about race in his own works. Italy did make racial purity laws later on at the insistence of the Germans, but their own movement didn't grow with any sense of racialism:
>"Not a race, nor a geographically defined region, but a people, historically perpetuating itself; a multitude unified by an idea and imbued with the will to live, the will to power, self-consciousness, personality (19)."
And the footnote here reads:
>(19)Race: it is a feeling and not a reality; 95 %, a feeling. (E. Ludwig, Talks with Mussolini, London, Allen and Unwin, 1932, p. 75).

- La Doctrina Del Fascismo

>>138002534
I personally agree with you. I love the aesthetic of the Reichsflagge but we can't carry it at rallies. I know there's the argument of 'They'll call us Nazis anyway'. REMEMBER: The far left is not our target audience, they are the useful idiots Yuri described. No matter how much proof is in front of them they will continue to deny the truth until they are dead'. Good riddance, we don't need them and we don' want them. Our target audience are the fence sitters, those who see the media treating us unfairly and will be compelled to sympathize more with us. And their Pavlovian brain conditioning comes into full swing when they see that symbol and those hand raises. It would be strategically beneficial to lure them in first with symbols that put them off guard and then slowly ease them into NS. At least, that's my opinion. Additionally, I personally don't like seeing literal 'Der Untermensch' examples carrying that flag but it dishonors everything Hitlers stood for and I find it very disrespectful.

>>137990311
this
i wouldnt mind helping people who deserve it and wont squander it by rioting in the streets screaming for more and more and more

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>>138003138
America used to have rallies like this

>>138002991
>yeah he was just playing 3d chess
you're literally as retarded as blind trump supporters

I just imagine how much better this shithole would be if Hitler and our Fascist government won, without all these subhuman gypsies and all the fucking stealing thieving romanians.

>>138003138
>REMEMBER: The far left is not our target audience, they are the useful idiots Yuri described.
You clearly didn't learn much from what Yuri said. What he said was that there are useful idiots, those who have been thoroughly demoralized, and there is the average person, who has had marxist ideology pumped into his soft brain for years and years.
>Our target audience are the fence sitters, those who see the media treating us unfairly and will be compelled to sympathize more with us ... It would be strategically beneficial to lure them in first with symbols that put them off guard and then slowly ease them into NS.
So what if they sympathize with us? What we want isn't virtue signalers, what we want is RADICALS. People who will fight and die for us and people that we will fight and die for in return. The fence sitters lack the conviction to do that, the very fact that they cannot pick a side is symptomatic of this.

>>138003419
To be fair at least Romania allied with Italy and Germany during WW2

>>138003076
Italian Fascism WAS ethnic nationalism for Italians, but obviously they had a underdeveloped conception of race as a wider concept, that is true. But that doesn't mean the overall worldview isn't the same. If you look at the primary source I showed, it proves that Mussolini DID INDEED have a racial conception, though very much admittedly underdeveloped

But that is simply because of Italy's different circumstances as a nation. It is a different manifestation of the same worldview of truth

Scroll through the link I posted, there is far more evidence from Mussolini FOR a conception a race than not, with sources including a wide timeframe

>>138003363
He openly comes out and admitted this. It's not like it's some secret. He is not a Zionist, he is an open National Socialist, and he killed traitors

Not going to condemn that

>>137993970
didnt washington say something along the lines of there should be at least a minor uprising every 3 or 4 years?

>>138003603
>does zionist terrorist things that literally only benefit them
>b-but hes a national socialist its just complicated reasoning
brainlet

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Hail victory

>>138003862
I don't know about that, but he did crush the Whiskey rebellion, so there's that.

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>>138003517
>Italian Fascism WAS ethnic nationalism for Italians
Don't you think that they were wanting to make "Italianism" a sort of civic national identity, in a revived Roman Empire? I really think they intended to "Italianize" the Mediterranean in their revived Roman Empire, just like "Americanized" culture in Japan and place that the US controls. Even Himmlet used the term "Germanizerung", which would never really have been civic nationalism, but he did believe that Aryan races could be "Germanized", ie, turned into Germans.

>>138003490
but in order to survive we had to backstab stab them at the end, it really makes one wonder why most of our poets were antisemites and hated the jew. They even banned them from school curriculum now.

>>138003059
>>138003327
That was when the Overton window was still fairly centered on the political scale; we are now slammed almost full Communist and even the fainted hush of Ethno-Nationalism and Race Realism is blasphemy

We also have to be smart about this. It took years for Hitler to infiltrate the DAP and establish the NSDAP. There was no armed revolution: it was an honest political rise. Momentum is finally swinging back towards our side for us to have our own. Hitler will have his day in the sun but that day is not today

We need to slowly work from the ground up grassroots in order to do so. We allow the lunatic left to do most of that groundwork for us; White people are being more and more politically disenfranchised day by day, and one they they will wake up and see that this nation no longer has any of their interests at heart. While they might not lose their financial power, they will lose their political power and that is something just as shattering. They will join us one day, not out of want, but out of necessity

Until then we work hard and do as much as we can possible to infiltrate quietly just as Hitler did the DAP

>>138003327
Yes, back when NS Germany was just another government in another country in the world and not the literal expression of evil on Earth it has become associated with today.
>>138003476
>Who has had Marxist ideology pumped into his soft brain for years and years
That's the point. The triggers go off as a result of their conditioning whenever they see the Swastika. It completely shuts them down, makes any argument we make, no matter how rational, inconceivable to listen to in their minds. They have to be caught unaware, off guard, their defenses have to be lowered.
>Radicals
Yes we need radicals, all great revolutions are successful due to a small group of radicals pushing the less than sufficiently motivated followers along, I agree with this. But we need more than radicals. And when I say fence sitters, I don't mean the skeptics (They have an ideology whether they like to admit it or not). I mean the average shop keeper on your street who hasn't really though about politics, but is convinced by our arguments that something must be done. You don't really think all people were born as radical ideologues for whatever ideology they hold dear do you? As I said, we need radicals, but we also need normal people who at the very least, stay out of way during the eventual revolution itself or support us quietly.

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>>138003988
Just a thought here, but I think "To Victory" would be better than Hail.

Hail implies we've already achieved it, which we most definitely have not.

But To could imply going towards as well as in acknowledge of, like in a toast.

Just something I've been stewing on for a bit now.

>>137988426
>doesn't understand the historical context that birthed the term socialism
>feels confidant to liken natsoc to communism because he saw an libertardian post it once.

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>>138003873
>if you kill your enemies, they win

>>138004060
Read this http://ironmarch.org/index.php?/topic/4333-italian-racial-concepts/&tab=comments#comment-93004

Basically, yes they wanted to spread their influence but not in a fucking civic nationalist way. They wanted to develop a strong racial doctrine in order to properly deal with the conquered peoples. This is Italian ethno-nationalism at its most basic

Sieg Heil, the word Nazi means nothing on plebbit anymore, I think this is the time we give them a visit

also people should watch the videos closer. the nazi flag guys were attacked first. they were the ones on front lines. you think this wasnt intentional triggering of commies to protect the more normie white guys out there then youre stupid.

>>138004310
we knew they were coming with violence, we've met it everywhere we've been.

>>138004090
>We also have to be smart about this. It took years for Hitler to infiltrate the DAP and establish the NSDAP. There was no armed revolution: it was an honest political rise.
Because the Weimar Republic was a failure. It failed to provide for the lemmings and therefore attracted their attention, that there was someone who was willing to give an alternative to provide for their needs. Who was that someone? Hitler.
>Until then we work hard and do as much as we can possible to infiltrate quietly just as Hitler did the DAP
Will never happen until the day the modern state starts to collapse. Do you honestly think that's even remotely possible?
>>138004146
>That's the point. The triggers go off as a result of their conditioning whenever they see the Swastika. It completely shuts them down, makes any argument we make, no matter how rational, inconceivable to listen to in their minds. They have to be caught unaware, off guard, their defenses have to be lowered.
But what's the fucking point in wasting our time? They will never really follow us, they will nod their heads and maybe donate a dollar or ten but they will literally never follow us into bloodshed and war.
>Yes we need radicals, all great revolutions are successful due to a small group of radicals pushing the less than sufficiently motivated followers along
All great revolutions that happened while the state was caving in on itself, you mean.
>I mean the average shop keeper on your street who hasn't really though about politics, but is convinced by our arguments that something must be done.
Newsflash buddy: That shopkeeper? He knows nothing about politics for a single reason. He doesn't WANT to know about politics! He is the living embodiment of the bluepill, willful ignorance to the world around him. National socialist prioritizes the truth above all others. What good is someone who shuts out reality in such a movement?

>>138004296
>Read this http://ironmarch.org/index.php?/topic/4333-italian-racial-concepts/&tab=comments#comment-93004
Yeah I've read it, that's why I mentioned Evola.

>>138003476
You both have very compelling points, and while I'm saving the pic you posted, I'm actually starting to think the other guy is more correct. You're right, we don't want those without conviction; however, it's not too late for them to change. We want them, not as they are, but we want them to join us. I was once a filthy normie, libertarian anti-nazi and all. We need to somehow make ourselves look undeniably like victims (which we are), while not PR cucking so hard we lose ideals and become ancap degenerates or civic nationalists.

>>138004441
only this time we were more organized, thats why the police broke us up. we had shit figured out until they pushed us out into the streets

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>>138004310
>confederate earrings
>that nose
Nothing to see here

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Alright goys, it's been insightful and inspiring, but I must sleep.

Goodnight gentlemen.

>>138004686
nite m8

>>138004509
>You're right, we don't want those without conviction; however, it's not too late for them to change.
This is the same logic liberals use when they say it's not too late for a murder to change. The lemming condition is natural and irreversible without the lemming themselves being forced to take action, through the collapse of whichever system provides for them.
> I was once a filthy normie, libertarian anti-nazi and all.
But the difference here is that you were a radical. You were a radical libertarian. Most people on /pol/ are radicals too. But the normie? Even if he agrees with every last talking point of ours, he is not a radical. At best he is a piggybank for the movement to draw from.
>We need to somehow make ourselves look undeniably like victims (which we are), while not PR cucking so hard we lose ideals and become ancap degenerates or civic nationalists.
You just don't fucking understand that we will never win this war through PR. I honestly don't get why you bother wasting your time with normies who don't know and don't want to know.

>>138004508
Alright, well in that case I think its safe to say that that Mussolini's idea wasn't EXPANDING the Italian race to other peoples, but expanding the Italian people's control. An Aryan conquest if you will, restoring the Italian peoples as the racial imperial conquerors of a new world

>>138004558
Has anyone figured out who the flag guy was?

Not that I want anyone doxed, but there's no way that faggot wasn't a plant, or just completely retarded.

His was the ONLY swastika there, and yet every fucking outlet in the country runs nothing but his image out of 800 people.

>>138004558
shes not holding that flag

>>137987855
Works great only as long as you have strong borders and similar cultures and ideals.

IE commies in a free market society will inevitably tip it away from free market using the power of free market against it.

>>138004686
Good sleep Nige

>>138004497
>They will never follow us into bloodshed and war.
That's why agreed with you about radicals. Only 30% or so of the population is required for drastic change to occur in society if I remember correctly. But where are you going to get these radicals from? Neo-Nazis? How many of them even understand NS and don't just use it for their own hatred of others. NS is about loving your own people, not hating others. That's the message that needs to reach the people.
>He doesn't want to know about politics
You can be sure though that all of his life he's been conditioned to hate one kind of politics - our politics. If he doesn't know our message, then what's to stop him and millions like him from violently opposing what he would see as a NS takeover of the United States? That why I said he needs to at the very least be ambivalent towards us, middle ground he can tacitly support us and if he gets the message then he too can be one of the radicals we need. The pool of radicals we have is small and often ill-suited for our message. Where are you going to get more from if not the general populace?
>>138004558
Not only that but I hate how its all creased like it was just unwrapped. I think it should be mandatory that all flags are to be ironed before use in rallies. That's just embarrassing, although you're probably right about he being a false flag.

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>>138003419
>>138003490
>>138004064
Be proud that it happened Romanianon
And use it as motivation to never defile your ancestor's struggles and dedication to truth
One day we will see Europa rise once more proud and true

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Does anybody else love Dodges now?
I think we should appropriate them, make it the official NatSoc approved vehicle from here on out

>>138005093
You're right now that I just took a second look. Still doesn't change my view that this was probably a false flag.

>>137989549
Ditto.

Was a hardcore libertarian until I noticed (((patterns))) among voters and realized people vote along cultural lines moreso than anything else.

>>138004823
>think its safe to say that that Mussolini's idea wasn't EXPANDING the Italian race to other peoples
I guess I gotta put my foot down and say I disagree, I think that's what he was leaning toward. I don't think it was a pozzed, degenerate civic nationalism like we normally criticise today -- it wasn't a "racemixing" or "multiculturalist" civic nationalism; it was a MONO-CULTURAL civic nationalism, ie, "Italinism", but it didn't define Italians as a "race", hard and fast. Italians were just "aryan" according to their racial laws. I think Mussolini wanted people included in his empire to be assimilated, ie, "Italianized", but I don't think they had a hard conception of an "Italian race", otherwise he wouldn't have said anything like "race, its 90% feeling".

I think this also EXACTLY why people today don't often say "I'm a fascist, and I really feel passionate about it" -- because it wasn't Italian racialism, it lacked a larger VISION. If you're from the US you already have US imperialism, or UK imperial identity if you're from the commonwealth. Its not really an alternative to anything people already have, for most people. Natsoc, because of its unique vision of history and race (and almost everything else), is a radically different alternative to anything that exists today. That's why so many neo-fascists or w/e today fashion themselves after Natsoc.

>>137990616
t. intersectionalist that never focuses on anything but race

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>>138005093
Still look suspicious af

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>>137988335
>no pan-european culture

Same Indo-European language group
Same gods
Same runes/alphabet
Same religion post-Constantine
most importantly: SAME DESCENT GROUP

>black pride b/c they're in america
>yet says you can't have white pride even tho my ancestors didn't come from america b/c of muh slavery
I can't trace my family back to "a single fucking village". I'm anglo-saxon, but I'm also northern french, but I also have spanish in me. So do I have "anglo-saxonic-franko-spanish" pride?

Also, there's no such ethnic group as "spanish" or "french" anyway. Those are names given to that land by conquerors. So do I have to find out which gallic and gothic tribes I'm from and come up with some stupid fucking name for that?

Also, blacks didn't have it so bad

>>138005368
This is the first normie Redpill
That people, in there essence, will never by majority vote against their own kind. Accepting identity politics is the first lesson of Race Realism and the quicker moderate/conservative whites realize that only whites will ever give a fuck about white problems will be the day that we turn this ship around

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>>137990616
If race doesn't matter, why does the ruling system focus disproportionate amounts of resources on suppressing race for Europeans, while elevating and encouraging race for non-whites? Why is the system so conspicuously anti-white if race is irrelevant? Also, why are the capitalists so hell-bent on multiculturalism and anti-racism, and why don't leftists ever notice they share the values of Wall Street?

>>138005234
>That's why agreed with you about radicals. Only 30% or so of the population is required for drastic change to occur in society if I remember correctly.
I'd say less actually.
>But where are you going to get these radicals from? Neo-Nazis? How many of them even understand NS and don't just use it for their own hatred of others.
The "neo-nazis" or more appropriately, hollywood nazis, can be cannon fodder. Send them to die. Solves the problem entirely.
But no, where we recruit most of our radicals is like here on /pol/ That's why our propaganda exists. We take lolbergtardian radicals, educate them and make them one of our own. This is also where NSDAP imagery comes in. The shock imagery scares away all but the most convicted of radicals. Only they are interested, in knowing more.
>You can be sure though that all of his life he's been conditioned to hate one kind of politics - our politics.
Without a doubt. But does it matter much, when we are the ones controlling the state? Is that not our ultimate goal, to become the state?
>If he doesn't know our message, then what's to stop him and millions like him from violently opposing what he would see as a NS takeover of the United States?
That's why the war we fight must not be a war against the government, it must be a war against the core of it. The very binding that holds it together is the one that must fall. We cannot risk a war of attrition that we will never win.
>That why I said he needs to at the very least be ambivalent towards us, middle ground he can tacitly support us and if he gets the message then he too can be one of the radicals we need.
First off, again, he will never be a radical. Second off, as I said, at best, he will be neutral. That's what Trump and the alt-kike are there for, to go and push their politics towards center right.

>>138005438
Bringing back Evola's work, its true Mussolini didn't regard race as purely biological. He concurred with Evola that race was that of mind, body, and spirit. Biology mattered, but spirit and mentality mattered just as much.

The idea of the Italian spirit, the new Roman Italy, would be that of imperial conquest. There is no attempt to say the conquered peoples were Italian, but certianly they wanted their own racial feelings to be within the Italian sphere of influence. While the Italian race would be that of imperial conquest, the conquered peoples would maintain a racial spirit of this imperial mindset, but not as conquers but of the conquered. They had a place in this imperial mindset, but in an entirely different way.

>>138005533
How did nobody backhand that stupid (((shit))) on the spot?

Everyone had to know there would be media there waiting for them to slip up.

Again, has anyone done any research on that guy?

>>138005533
>>138006195
No serious NS/Fascist would attend an Alt-Kike/Big Tent rally anyway

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>>138006146
>Biology mattered, but spirit and mentality mattered just as much.
This was one of the big "detours" that Natsoc made in terms of traditional racialism. A lot of Natsoc views had a lot on common with thinkers that came before like Spengler, who (like Evola) thought of race a maybe 50/50 spiritual and biological -- but they veered much further toward biological conceptions of race, of "racial science" rather than spiritualism. Many on the Germanic volkish movements tended to think of what Jung called "a racial soul", but Rosenberg and Himmler tended to see biological race as far more critical than anyone in any previous generation -- not saying Germans DIDN'T have a spiritual view, just they were very, very scientific-materialist.

>Omniphi: Carl Jung, the Collective Unconscious
https://youtu.be/O5hJniVfjWA
>Oswald Spengler - Prussianism and Socialism
https://archive.is/Kt6UF
>Alfred Rosenberg's Criticism of Spengler
https://archive.org/download/AlfredRosenbergsCriticismOfOswaldSpengler/RosenbergCriticismOfSpengler.pdf

>>137995282
That's pretty much the only true response to the Thomas Jefferson quote:
>The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants

Hey natsoc dudes, I thought I should bring this shit onto your radar. https://eastwesttakeover.tumblr.com/tagged/black-superiority Kill it, kill it with gas

>>138006642
Fuck, jewtoob shoah'd it once again:
https://youtu.be/Ivk_MM1OGZY

>>138006642
I really don't see this as being different worldviews at all. I agree with your analysis, but I think it is again just different manifestations of the same worldview. Essentially both believe in the full worldview of truth, which is that race is biological and spiritual, but both emphasis different parts for different reasons without denying any part

>>138005990
>Internet activism
Yes, that's fine. I completely agree with you on that. The internet is a very good recruiting tool and ideological teacher. But I'm more talking about real life. And the internet has its disadvantages. For example, all those boys disavowing White Nationalism after they saw the reality of what it means to be fighting on the frontlines. Face to face is the best judge of character and resolve and also helps weed out any plants or informants.
>But does it matter much, when we are the ones controlling the state? Is that not our ultimate goal, to become the state?
True, but there's a step before that you know. As in actually becoming the state in the first place. We still want people to like us, otherwise as you said we will lose a war of attrition. I really wouldn't want any NS turning totalitarian. Our people and the people of the world need to understand that our mandate to rule is through the expression of the will of our own people and not by terror and fear like in the USSR.
>That's why the war we fight must not be a war against the government, it must be a war against the core of it.
I'm afraid I'm a bit lacking here. Could you inform as to what you mean by 'the core of government'. What would that be exactly?
First off, again, he will never be a radical. Second off, as I said, at best, he will be neutral. That's what Trump and the alt-kike are there for, to go and push their politics towards center right.
Yes I agree, hence why I stated that at the very least he must be ambivalent to us or apathetic to politics as a whole (But we know in our case apathy is not an option)

>>138005990
I cant say you aren't making a lot of sense anon

Then in any case, it is a good thing our country is becoming more fractured and that Libertarianism is actually catching traction; as well as more people on the right becoming more radicalized; as it should: you cannot fight Fanatical Communism with Moderate Conservatism; you need and equal Fanatical ideology

I always try to drop stealth redpills to my hardcore Lolberg friends; many of them are already radicalized and I can feel my IQ drop as soon as they devolve into dumbshit Alex Jones style MURICA-Frenzy and spout off about JEEPS and MUSTANGS and FREEDUMBS. They act like man-children but I am assured that if they begin to understand the truth, they will see the drastic severity of the situation and grow. I have always seen it on the boards and always see the Libertarian-to-National Socialist conversion more often than not

>>138006306
This

>>137997899
>fantasizing
This is the most important part of what he said.
No "fantasizing"--make a decision. Violence should only come once the systems of the State break down. When corporations openly seize power of existing systems, when political action is no longer viable for total victory.

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>>138006968
>I really don't see this as being different worldviews at all
I guess it depends if by "different" you're thinking "opposite/contradictory", or if you're thinking "different percentages of similar properties".
> both emphasis different parts for different reasons without denying any part
I totally agree, but I think Natsoc leaned away from the spiritual toward the materialist; that's why Evola wasn't 100% on-board with Natsoc, because it failed to meet his philosophical standards.

They WERE different, not just in name. You can see the difference still today, all these years later. I think there's an obvious reason that Natsoc resonates with people today, and its not just because they had "nicer uniforms" or something like that. I think it combined a lot of beliefs and perspectives in a unique way. I think fascism and natsoc are COMPATIBLE, not identical. I think they had different ultimate goals, a difference sense of their place in history and the world. Natsoc was more dynamic, it had more vitality, it was more revolutionary in more ways.

Also, I'm heavily influenced by Degrelle's judgement of Mussolini.

>>138006976
>But I'm more talking about real life.
In real life you hold rallies like George Lincoln Rockwell did. You form your own political party and start recruiting.
>As in actually becoming the state in the first place.
Which is what I'm discussing here.
>I really wouldn't want any NS turning totalitarian.
Totalitarianism has to be the first phase in any NS society. The freedom can only come after the people have been cleansed in fire and flame.
>our mandate to rule is through the expression of the will of our own people and not by terror and fear like in the USSR.
You're forgetting important things like how the NSDAP was totalitarian, yet did not rule through terror. Totalitarianism and rule of fear are not one and the same.
>Could you inform as to what you mean by 'the core of government'. What would that be exactly?
In the US it would be the deep state. In the EU and related it would be killing every last figurehead and core member. Kill the important ones so that they have no hope of replacing these key persons.
>Yes I agree, hence why I stated that at the very least he must be ambivalent to us or apathetic to politics as a whole (But we know in our case apathy is not an option)
Which is why the alt-kike exists. Do you not get that? It's why we explicitly divorce ourselves from the alt-kike too.

>>138006306
Did storm front support this event?

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George Lincoln Rockwell makes me smile everytime

>>138007600
I agree with you concerning the differences, but I would argue that it isn't a matter of worldview, but application/approaching the worldview differently.

National Socialism, Fascism, Falangism, etc. may have appeared in the 20th century, but they are manifestations of the same worldview which has gone back pre-history. The main point I am trying to make is that National Socialists/Fascists are modern warriors for truth. There has ALWAYS been warriors for truth and generation, just as there as surely been forces of lies and decay before history could even be recorded. National Socialism/Fascism is just the most recent manifestation of this worldview of truth. The worldview of the cosmic order.

It would have looked far different for a warrior for truth thousands upon thousands of years ago, but we are fighting the same struggle.

But I do agree with you concerning the specific differences, but I think it wouldn't be totally fair to the worldview to say they are essentially different, as you can't separate/divide truth. Their outer manifestations are different, but the spirit, the seeking to adhere to the cosmic order, are exactly identical.

>>138007751
No idea, stormfront are old boomers and faggots and don't really matter

>>138007643
>Totalitarianism
Never. Hitler never described his country as totalitarian. Only ever authoritarian. Big difference. I agree the country will have to go though an authoritarian phase before liberties can be eased again.
>Deep state and EU
We are in agreement there.

>>138008370
>Never. Hitler never described his country as totalitarian. Only ever authoritarian. Big difference. I agree the country will have to go though an authoritarian phase before liberties can be eased again.
Realistically speaking, a decently long period of totalitarianism, or at least authoritarianism, is the only way to purge degeneracy. And by decently long I mean several generations, enough for the taint of marxism in all its forms to fade out of the minds of then people. Then things can be eased up.

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>>138008195
I know a lot of people who share your opinion, the whole "both were warriors for truth", but I'm going stand form on my (admittedly) more chauvenisitc opinion, that Natsoc had a racial worldview, and a sense of destiny for the entire Aryan race, whereas many fascist movements were more parochial, more concerned with their respective nations or reviving former empires. Ultimately, those are good things, and they resonate with the same values as Natsoc, but Hitler and his cadre knew they were fighting a war, perhaps even as part of something universal like the "Kali Yuga", to preserve the Aryan race from destruction. It was this lack of vision that led Mussolini to do a lot of stupid things that ultimately didn't serve the greater vision of the entire fate of Aryans and Europe. I really think Fascists, with the exception of Codreanu, were shorter-sighted this way.

>>138000742
That's all pretty fucked up. I enjoy the Daily Shoah, but damn.

I think the real question is: Outside of this incident, has he hurt our movement in any way?

You could also ask: Is this incident more hurtful than any helpful things Enoch has done?

My answer is no to both.

>>138007900
>I'd rather gas queers than anyone else

He has my vote.

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>>138001352

>>138008370
>>138008541
Yeah, authoritarianism/totalitarianism are just tools, with the long term objective of achieving an organic state. It is pretty dumb to call Fascists/NS "authoritarian" just as it might be odd to call a poet a pencilist

>>138008616
I definitely see where you are coming from, and I do agree entirely in your analysis. At the same time, I just don't see it as being different enough to define it differently. I do agree at this point in time there can be no compromise for total victory for the descendants of Aryan peoples. I don't blame Italian Fascists or others for focusing on a more ethno-centric outlook rather than a wider vision, as I think that is equally acceptable in terms of worldview. But I think out of necessity we can have nothing less than Total Aryan victory.

>>138001855
>r/the_donald
>alt-right

I think you mean Cernovich/AJ/Cuck McInnes buttsniffers.

>>138002705
He killed the leftists of tomorrow. It was a party meeting of the socialist's youth wing.

While his deeds were ruthless and cruel, it was the most effective damage he could do as a single man to leftism and the multicultural disease that has befallen Europe.

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>>138008984
You could tell by the end he was getting annoyed with the circular racial-questioning and just jumped into troll-mode
He would have been /pol/'s Fuhrer

And then there's this Jew in the comments autistically kvetching; pic related
Fucking lol

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>National Socialism general
>National Socialism
>Socialism
Nigga wut?

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>>138001958
This shit is the "real communism has never been tried" of the far-right.

>>138008962
>I think the real question is: Outside of this incident, has he hurt our movement in any way?
You know, some things that cause damage happen in big, obvious ways all at once, and some things that damage us are slow and quiet and corrosive. The more I've had my eyes opened about their dirty laundry, having seen how they turned on their own friends and supporters, I know that they are in this for themselves and nothing else really. I'm sure they don't think of themselves that way, but no one likes to see themselves that way -- TRS has proven with their actions what they're made of, so to speak. Having seen it first hand, I will never trust them. After having my trust broken, going back to re-evaluate things I've started to notice a lot of shit I just overlooked, opinions or stances they've taken that they really should be taken to task for. Their current members are a "hear no evil, see no evil" bunch, and its because TRS grooms its following like a cult, for pure loyalty and lack of criticism.
>tl;dr
Does it hurt the movement to have liars and frauds out front, representing us, leading gullible people who think they actually are leaders? Yes, of course. We need better leaders, because these ones are poor stewards.

>>138009164
>But I think out of necessity we can have nothing less than Total Aryan victory.
Exactly, because the enemy isn't just trying to rule over us, or to be the 1% -- they want out extinction, culturally and racially and spiritually. To them, we have no souls. We're just farm animals according to their scripture.

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>>138008962
I think the problems with Enoch apply to the Alt-Right as a whole. No matter what specific beliefs we have in common with them, they mostly do not share our worldview. The only benefit that can come from the Alt-right is if we purity spiral hard enough that their supporters would become full Fascist/NatSoc.

Hopefully they continue to show how shit they really are extremely openly so more people can see how bullshit they are

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>>138009471
Another clueless American teenager, I see. Here, something to give you a quick rundown.

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loving confederates, nazis. you just hate being on the winning side, faggot.

>>138009508
No one's saying that "real fascism/natsoc has never been tried", we're saying that they aren't one and the same. They can be used in tandem or they can be kept separate. Are you being stupid on purpose?

>>138009471
>Anarcho-Capitalist
>ANARCHY

GTFO, cuck. You'd get the rope like the rest of the Antifa cucks.

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>>138009471
>>138009605

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these past few days, i've seen the truth
i'm sorry for campaigning against you lot, forgive me for my ignorance

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>>138009744
We're all gonna make it brah

>>138009672
>>138009605
Good luck Hans, the tolerance polizei is coming after you

>>138009471
A better way to see Socialism as not one of classes/Marxist ideology, but a socialism of duty

For a real socialism redpill, read http://ironmarch.org/index.php?/topic/6794-fascist-economics-and-socialism-of-duty/

>>138009744
I forgive you, hail victory

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>>138009892
I'm ready

>>138010160
Are you actually German or a foreigner in Germany?

If you are German, can you enlighten us on the German NS scene?

>>138003138
>Our target audience are the fence sitters
No, our targets are disadvantaged white men under 30. The white men who've had everything their ancestors built thrown away. The white men who are hated just for who they are.

These white men do not care about "evil Nazis" or gas chambers or holocausts or any of that bullshit. These white men want to be a part of something. We must project power and strength. They will respond in kind.

We will not rely on NS symbolism, however--not because of "muh PR", but because the United States does not need a German National Socialist movement--but we will not cuck on Hitler, the NSDAP, or anything related to them. This isn't to say some NS symbolism is bad, but not so much that it characterizes us as "just another neo-Nazi movement". Some rendition of a US flag would be good.

thank you for keeping these threads alive, makes me happy to see that /nsg/ still has a place on /pol/ even after all the shilling. Although I agree with keeping power level down in public I feel like natsocs should have a place to discuss here. Sieg Heil

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>>138010747
What about Man in the High Castle's Nazi States flag? Or something like it?
It might send normies into overdrive and fry the conditioning long enough to sneak in some stealth redpills

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>>138005342

>>138010256
I'm German.

German NatSoc is pretty much dead in the Western parts. You may have some individuals agreeing with NS, and even be staunch supporters in private, but they absolutely cannot go public with their views. Even networking with like-minded NatSocs in the West doesn't happen because everybody is scared of "V-Männer" (basically federal agents pretending to be nazis to get your info). I think only Generation Identity has potential in the Western parts, and the Burschenschaften (university fraternities) seem to be an eternal right-wing constant.

There are regular "Rechtsrock" (right wing rock) festivals, but mostly in Eastern Germany. I visited one and many of the people were your average neo-nazi brutes. Nothing against them, they're needed for local work, but I'm interested in the big picture. I did find some who were very well read and into the ideology for rational reasons, which gave me a lot of hope.

As for political representation, the NPD is sort of an undercover-nazi party, they publicly say they're for Democracy and everything, but they'd probably re-instate a Führer-cult if they came to power. But they're also probably infested with V-Männer. The AfD are still trying to find their place, they swing from civic nationalism to ethnic nationalism, from free market to classic German social market ...

It's hard to even communicate NS ideas outside of the internet, but if it was ever going to go somewhere, then you need to step outside of the internet and network with real people. It's difficult, but the migrant crisis and the ever increasing insanity of leftists is driving many people to more right wing sentiments. Except for our retarded youth, who believe their school teachers. They'll only come around once they start working and paying taxes for jobless shitskins, but by then they'll be 30 years old and have voted for Greens/Left/Social Democrat for 12 years.

>>138010747
>>138011346
We don't want to adopt American symbolism. Americanism itself goes against our entire worldview. We need something new

Take for example the Nordic Resistance Movement's brand

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>>138009744
You're home now and that's all that matters brother

>>138009471
>>137988775

>>138009624
>No one's saying that "real fascism/natsoc has never been tried"
I'm not saying that, I'm saying that both arguments are equally stupid and equally counterproductive
>Are you being stupid on purpose?

>>138011686
>I'm saying that both arguments are equally stupid and equally counterproductive
How so? All it does is make it clear that there's a distinction between the two. That's it. Stop bitching about non-problems.

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>>138011482
NatSoc is about the PEOPLE, the RACE, the VOLK. So it is only fitting to seek symbols in the roots of our people and our cultures.

Germanic and Nordic runes are great symbols with somewhat-known meanings. If you have Latin/Roman ancestry, then perhaps Rome's or Ancient Greece's symbolism may appeal to you. There's a lot of symbolism out there that can be readily used and modernized. The Nordic Resistance Movement has done this very professionally.

>>138010747
>our targets are disadvantaged white men under 30
Definitely too narrow a window. My older brother and cousins feel these things more strongly than I do, because they are in the middle of their careers and families, and in many ways they are more scared for their survival than I am. We've lived apart for many years, and I found my way to these views on my own -- only discovering many family members felt the same after I got redpilled. My older brother read mein kampf years ago, and always had a different set of views that were never mainstream. If we had lived closer, he might have redpilled me sooner. So, the over 30 crowd has different motives, but same goals as us. I imagine the ones whose lives were destroyed or harmed by the financial crisis, even moreso.

>>138011873
>My older brother and cousins feel these things more strongly than I do, because they are in the middle of their careers and families
This cannot be overstated. Once you start having children, your priorities change A LOT. Especially fathers care deeply about the future of the environment their children will grow up in. And knowing that niggers will be running rampant near your neighborhood soon isn't a good feeling.

We can use this to reach many, many White men, even if they're not disadvantaged. They may be financially stable, but macroscopic issues such as the dwindling White majority is too big a problem for them to solve. So they'll look for bigger groups who fight for interests they couldn't achieve alone.

>>138011440
Thanks for the insight man. I have to respect German NS like you greatly. Americans have the luxury of being completely free to openly be NS and say all kinds of crazy shit, but alas, most do not take advantage of this. We will win though.

>>138011818
I totally agree. Coming up with a symbol for Americans will be especially tough unfortunately. Americans aren't even a real nation, and the descendants of Aryan peoples are a mix of a different assortment of ethnic groups, and also a "white mystery meat".

Either way, NS need to reject "American nationalism" as the fake inorganic bullshit it is

Hail victory

>>137985057
Fucking kill yourself faggots, you are the niggers of the white race

>>138011482
>Americanism itself goes against our entire worldview.

Not if you understand that the liberalism the founders established would have evolved into some form of fascism without (((them))).

The "Americanism" you refer to is the, "buy a house", corporate identity, race mixing bullshit the kikes sold us. True Americanism goes back to the frontier, forging a nation out of wilderness, fighting redskins, pride in your nation, but also your state.

NS ideals could be implemented at the state level with the federal level maintaining itself as a liberal republic, or vice versa. Or states could be abolished and set up as a centralized Nation. Either way, you won't win without using American symbolism.

>>138012261
t. civic nationalist and proponent of the free market

>>138009624
>National Socialism completely destroyed the country it was practiced in and killed everyone who followed it
>i-i-i-its still good i swear!

You dumbfucks are just as bad as commies

>>138011482
I disagree
I think it would really appeal to the overarching idea of Americanism mixed in with ethnic-homogeny. There is no way a strict NSDAP-style German National Socialist can exist in the States; the demographics are too varied. Being a strict German National Socialist would require completely collapsing America to travel back to your homeland and leaving all the land to Native Americans. George Lincoln Rockwell was a strict Hitlerist but even he believed that America was too mixed to be able to enforce ethnic-homogenealogy unless America balkanized (which he was in favor of)

Also what Germanon said >>138011818
Throwing away the traditional Flag to appropriate or design a completely new one is disgracing the history and culture of the Nation which is precisely the opposite of National Socialism. If America is to adopt National Socialism, Americans would need to fully "adopt" Americanism and that includes celebrating the flag

>>138012133
This is true. I having beers with my brother last time he was in town, and he almost started crying telling me about my neice and nephew's experiences in public school in a plae with majority immigrant Muslim and black kids. He's finally out of that area now, but he wa stuck there for a few years after fighting his ass off to change careers after the financial crisis. My nephew got beaten up by a kid almost twice his age from the fucking Congo, because they stuck his refugee ass in a school for people way younger. Because he cant read and has the IQ of a gerbil. The kid got put in jail, but my nephew had to go through some shit psychologically to recover. My brother told me if he had his life to do over again, he never would have entered the military because he was just fighting for Israel and watching everyones lives get thrown away, while his own country was being dismantled back home. I've never seen him talk like that, it was intense for me. He said if he didn't have a family he'd start a war with Goldman Sachs, all by himself or with some war buddies.

>>137997801
Many Antifa are funded by NGOs, lol.

>>137985057
you don't want degeneracy purged. you want your anime. your action figures. your adult toys i.e. guns. the real question is, your body pillow- is it milo or some weeb shit? either way you are an incel, weeb, furry, faggot who cannot succeed in society, so you come to /pol/ every day to become a cum-unity organ-izer, cause basically no one likes you and no one wants to fuck you.

>>138012487
t. civic nationalist and proponent of the free market

>>138012487
>buy a computer
>it works
>throw it onto the floor and fry the remains in a microwave
>no longer works
>WTF THIS COMPUTER IS SHIT
This is you right now.

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>>138012487
>anti-communists are just as bad as communists
And catfish are cats because they have cat in the name, amirite Sherlock?

>>138012594
>t-t-the nazis were just trying to lose!

Do you realize how stupid you sound?

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>>137985057
Bump

>>138012589
t. kekistani virgin

>>138012644
No, what I'm saying is that the system worked, and then it was thrown into the microwave of WWII, in which it promptly exploded. Makes sense or no?

>>138011440
How did the "unbanning" of Mein Kampf last year effect the National Socialist movement in Germany as a whole? Did it create any noticeable effects? You think people are more well read on the history and biography of Hitler and possibly more sympathetic towards NS ideas?

>>138012282
I do agree there was a previous opportunity VERY early on in America's history to develop a true and organic nation and Tradition. But early on there were forces against this, and today it is obvious which side won.

Whatever America was or could have been, for over 100+ years Americanism has been a plaything of the jews. It needs to go. It is no loner anything real or organic that can possibly be salvaged.

>>138012528
I disagree that collapsing America and going back to Europe is the solution, but the real solution is to collapse America and work to form something real and organic that can actually have a tradition.

White Nationalists fail due to their "white mystery meat" nationalism, which isn't nationalism at all. Something authentic and organic needs to take shape, but that cannot come from Americanism at this point. It is beyond saving, as it is totally degenerate and fucked up at its core

>>138012719
>the system worked

How the fuck did it work? You realize the reason why so much of the world attacked Germany is BECAUSE of Nazism and what they did to their country and the countries around them.

Nazism destroyed Germany and turned it into the leftist shithole it is now, that is the legacy of your ideology.

>>138009140
You only proved my point.

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I've missed these threads and hope to see more of them in the future. Will definitely lurk more.

>>138005533
If only Harry Potter were there, he'd show those Nazis a thing or two, aimirite?

>>138012487
>National Socialists destroyed themselves
>totally wasn't the entire world fighting against them

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>>138012847
>How the fuck did it work?
Pic related
>You realize the reason why so much of the world attacked Germany is BECAUSE of Nazism and what they did to their country and the countries around them.
Yeah, because they economically liberated themselves from jewish central banking. And then when they tried to reunite the various german ethnic homelands from being massacred they got crushed by 3 superpowers in tandem.
>Nazism destroyed Germany and turned it into the leftist shithole it is now
And what exactly are we supposed to do? Hm? What would you suggest doing, you dumb lolbergtard shit? Because here's a hint, they were invaded because the kikes didn't like that they destroyed their central bank and freed themselves from usury.

>>138001352
Terrible

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>>138012847
Seemed like it worked to me fampai
Also (You)

>>138011873
>Definitely too narrow a window.
Not true. There will be a lot of these people. The intelligent people will find us on their own, I assume you and your brothers and cousins are the intelligent ones. The average, or the below average, will operate much less on reason. These people will operate on appearance--what they see, what they feel. What they see and feel is lies and destruction. We will give them purpose.

>So, the over 30 crowd has different motives, but same goals as us. I imagine the ones whose lives were destroyed or harmed by the financial crisis, even moreso.

They may have the same goals, but they will be much less likely to join. They remember a time when things were real, when the US actually had a society, they trusted their authorities. I think they think things can "just go back to 'normal', like when I was a kid". I've talked to my dad a lot about this stuff and that's what I get from him. He's about 45, fairly intelligent, but will not see the truth of our current society. I think I can get him there, but this is just one man--think about mass propagandizing. Do you really want to appeal to people who remember the "good ole days"? Or do you want to appeal to those whose entire lives they've been fed fake bullshit, where nothing is real? If we focus our efforts on those of the younger generation, we will achieve much more success than if we target broad groups.

>>138012754
The newly released version of "Mein Kampf" is an absolute fucking joke. It has twice the number of pages as the original, and the layout looks like this:

For every double page of the new Mein Kampf
>left page is completely filled with opinions and annotations of "history experts"
>right page is split about 50/50: one part is the original Mein Kampf, the other part is once again annotations
So for every double-page of this new Mein Kampf release, you have 25% of the real estate for the original Mein Kampf text, and 75% of annotations/comments.

I guess nobody actually read the whole book, because the annotations are so in your face, you just stop reading after a few pages. Basically everybody's grandpa has an original copy though, so if you want to read it it's pretty easy. I don't think it changed much. What honestly changed something is the political debate that happened in private among many Germans once the refugee crisis showed its ugly face in terms of rapes and murders of German women and children. Also alternative news sites like pi-news and jungefreiheit have contributed to giving Germans another perspective on the left-adjusted mainstream news networks.

>>138013197
Would love to see you extend the graph after 1941, lol

It's always hilarious to me how NatSoc retards will say that Germany prospered right before it was obliterated into dust and ashes.

>>138013317
>HAHA nazi retards why didn't nazi germany prosper all the way until its defeat by 3 world superpowers?