Will fascism ever succeed?

Worked well for Spain.

I mean it worked pretty well for most of those countries. War is what failed them.

>>137939734
yup

>>137939931
Where have I seen this argument before? Oh, right, LARPing tankies online talking about the USSR et al

>when leftists try to meme

at least try and come up with some OC rather than just copying our stuff

>>137940241
People in fascist countries could eat and didn't die of famine.

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No - and the current attempt won't work either.

Chile failed?

>>137939255
Can someone explain to me why mathematicians were running fascist regimes in Chile and Brazil?

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>>137940910

Because they took a look at the numbers and realised communism doesnt work.

>>137939255
Only one of these was actually Fascist(Italy)

>>137939255

How did it fail in Spain? It ruled for over 30 years, there was an economic boom under it, and the country peacefully transitioned to democracy afterward.

>>137942423
>Peacefully transitioned

Uuuuh.

>>137939255
A few years after the Brazilian fascist (Vargas) was deposed he was was literally voted back into office in a landslide

>>137939255
To be fair over a sufficient period of time every governmental system fails

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ours was the longest.

>>137939255
The dates are wrong on,our fascim goverment was from 1933 to 1974

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That wasn't real fascism

>>137939734
Proof that you should never be fascist.
I hate Spaniard commies and you should too

>>137939255
Extremist ideologies will always fail.

>>137939255
>Republic of China
>failure

The only thing Chiang did wrong was lose the mainland. Also your dates are completely wrong.

>>137943794
But that's the only way you get to remove them. You get arrested if you do anything to commies now.

The flag on Brazil is wrong.Integralists never rose to power.

It wasn't real fascism those times though

>>137939255

but I thought America was fascist according to you idiots, so why hasn't it failed?

>>137940578
>Antifa
>Anti Fascism Organization
>Fascist

?????

And what makes Dems fascist? Also according to your timeline it ended in 2016.

>>137939255
add united states to that

>>137939255
Israel

>>137939255
National-Socialism as a form of Facism is most effective way to accomplish goals for the Civilization and the Community itself.

Just sayin.
I mean, see what we done in 12 years, and it took 3-4 World-Powers to took us down.


The Spaintards and Spaghetti-Mussolini fid a good job too tho.

>>137939255
Oh btw, why is Japan on the list???

They had a military Dictatorship/Police State, i wouldnt count that as facism

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>>137939255
The Integralists never rose to power in Brazil, they were disbanded by Getulio Vargas, who was kind of a fascist dictator, but had no relations with them.

Getúlio Vargas could be described as fascist in the 30s, but above all he was a nationalist, and fascism was just the hottest trend of the decade. He saw the Americans as a more valuable asset for Brazil and joined the allies in the WW2, and people at time found ironic that a Fascist drafted soldier for "defeat the fascism in Europe". After he stepped down from power in the 40s, he eventually came back for presidency in the 50s, this time being democratically elected and as proper nationalist. He was the first to establish workers rights, he nationalized a ton of stuff (including oil) and is to this day is still the most beloved president for a lot of people. He were once a fascist ruler, and it worked well for Brazil, the Integralists in the other hand were just some odd group from the 30s that occupy a quarter of a page in our school history books.

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>>137943784
Topkek

>>137944710
Pretty sure he's calling Obama a fascist. I have heard people call him many things. A commie, a Muslim, a nigger, but never a fascist. It seems nu/pol/ can't get their narrative straight.

I feel like Taiwan, Portugal and Spain were objectively much bigger success stories than any country that ever attempted communist governance

>>137942961
What do you know, emocracy works.

>>137939255
Germany went from being a broken nation to an economic powerhouse in a few short years, and only lost because the entire world was against her. Germany was a success economically. You are also leaving out ancient Rome.

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>>137939255
Germany was Nat-soc not fascism.

For all that it's worth, our economy was considered a little better back then, even with a World War going on.

>>137939255
>It wasn't a real fascism

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>Chile
>Failed
Besides thats a party flag our country has never adopted lmao

Monarchism is the true red pill

>>137939255
Roman empire.

Natzionalsocialism, not facism, italy is facism, not germany

>>137939255
Britain is pretty successful, so yes. Fascism can work.

>>137939255
what's the definition of succeed? north korea's a shithole but their state has been existant for quite a while now. i think i'd count that as a success. the country in question also depends. for example, fascism will never in a million years take off in america, but i think it could happen in some asian countries.

>>137946039
b-but they killed jews, no country can be considered great if the population live in constant fear and threat, I mean 0.2% of the population.

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>chile

Really? Their major cities look pretty first world for the most part and the parts that don't, pretty much looks like a nicer area in Mexico.

>>137939255
In every one of these instances fascism has worked incredibly well.

Most fascist regimes throughout history have either ended as the result of a major catastrophic war (of which they were one of the main belligerents) or through the problem of succession, when the dictator dies.

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>>137939255
But neither Trump nor the people at the Charlottesville rally are fascists. At this point, "fascist" just means "anyone to the right of Lenin".

Also fairly certain that from that list only Italy, Japan and the Sigmas in Brazil were actually fascist.

>>137939255
>Republic of China
>fascist
Only compared to the commie fucks they were fighting against

>>137939255
will fascism ever get to exist without getting swarmed by various commiejews from all over the world?

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Any idea of nationalism died thanks to this nigger. SSSSSS

>>137948572
commiejews and their pets*

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it's working pretty well here

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>>137939255
>most of them ended 1945
It's almost as if someone forced them to stop being fascist

>>137942887
There was no all out war, just some commies and old fascist mechanisms acting out.

>>137939255
In Brazil it did pretty well, until today Vargas is glorified as the "father of the people"(pai do povo), and today the population is calling for an 2º military dictatorship.
Fascism didn't fail, it's defeated, see how the world were before the first globalization, when jews owned shit, 80% of the world were fascist. Today any flame of nationalism is extinguished by the (((free nation$$$))).

>>137946492
What can we do anon?

New AFP retirement stupid scheme.

Mass importation of uneducated niggers.

Feminism going full mainstream in politics.

Mapuches being mapuches (I'm mixedrace but I don't care about uncivilized rebels)

>>137939255
It succeeded in Singapore.

>>137947771
Best place to live when ww3 begins.

>a fucking letter

>>137939255
So fascism fails when the rest of the worlds teams up and ganks fascist states? Out of curiosity, what ideology can withstand that?

>>137939255
>commie governments collapsed or failed due to flawed theory and practice
>nationalist regimes which collapsed only because of the stress of world wars or peaceful internal change

Will OP ever stop sucking dicks?

>>137940506
this. Outside circumstances caused collapses almost every time. The system hasn't outright failed

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Fascism essentially embraces truth

Truth will always win. Nature always win over men's delusions

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>>137939255
Pinochet?

>>137939255
Japan wasn't fascist.

>>137939255
those people who write "every single time" and who give examples on a duration of only 70 years

btw Tchang Kaï-chek was less of a fascist than Mao or even Xi Jiping

>>137939255
worked for us negro
pity that the sucessor was a limp wristed bastard

>>137939255
Nope, it's too rigid and more open countries will out innovate and overtake.

>>137949628
The Empire of Japan was a military dictatorship. The emperor was nothing.

>>137939255
>Over half "failed" after fucking up and being defeated in war

>>137939931
>>137939931
Why where governments that place so much importance on military defense and social order so bad at war and long-term stability?

>>137939255
>Will fascism ever succeed?

What Fascism did in Portugal, Spain and Chile is stop the Communists from taking over and it helped rebuild the countries after long periods of neglect or political instability.

Fascism in those countries were roaring successes. The fault in Fascism is that it can't last very long. The utility in Fascism is that it can be used to weather a commie storm and then it's easy to transition into a democratic, liberal society.

Contrast that with how Communism completely corrupts the character of a people, annihilates the economy and then collapses. Transition out of Communism happens when the system shits the bed. Fascism is far preferable to Communism.

German, Italian and Japanese Fascism "failed" when the countries lost wars. Not real examples.

>Implying Chile didn't work
that said it wasn't full fascist either. It was Authoritarian and capitalist for sure but it's better to think of it as Neo-Monarchy

>>137950006
they were heavily outnumbered every time

>>137943784
>That wasn't real fascism
it was real you cunt
and it fucking worked, only it turns out that when you've got the whole world breathing down your neck, you've got to tow the party line
the cold war was dying down you we were next on the menu

>>137950200
>that said it wasn't full fascist either
to be fair Italy was the only real fascist country

>>137939255
It's working now, watch a blm negro getting stomped at 2 20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_bB5atgQ7M

why is burgerland so afraid of letting fascism take off? the CIA seem pretty fond of it

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>>137950006
>Germany was bad at war

>>137939255
Islan has been going strong for 7000 years! It's the most efficient at cleaning out ((rats))

>>137942423
Even if one's admit that the transition was peaceful, it's pretty obvious that the country had enough of fascism and wanted a more open society. In that sense, you can imagine that fascism could succeed as a solution to a problem, but that it can't be a long term stable solution. The problem with most ideologies is that they exclude the possibility of changes, even gradual. That is why they fail. Even war is not a dooming factor per se, it is the inability of the ideological leader to adapt its decision to what the situation is. For instance, Italy turned allied in the late stage of WW2 because they recognized that the situation was fucked beyond belief and a radical change was in order. Mussolini couldn't, and that got him (and his whore) the Lynchburg special.

>>137950811
sauce?

>no has shopped the Israeli flag yet and spreaded this around

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>>137939255
>Republic of China
>Japan
>fascist

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>>137939255
>National Socialism is fascism

Why do 90 IQ types even bother?

>>137939734
not really

>>137946173
/pol/, where antifa are fascists but nazis are not

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>>137952162
>not recognizing Asanagi
>not recognizing his magnum opus
It's called Danke Dankei Revolution
https://exhentai.org/g/836483/8ef404247e/

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>>137939255
Yes.

China and North Korea are fascist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjW374SuOho

>>137950799
We all know the ((answer)) to that question.

>>137953162
>antifa are fascists
they're not though; they're commies

>>137940578

God you're so gay.

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>>137953162
>antifa are fascists

fascism is easy a left idea from limiting free speech to taking away its peoples right to bear arm

>>137939255

>real fascism has never been tried

>>137939255
Weren't all of those governments also socialist?

>>137939255
Once the warmongering kikes allow it to exist. But alas, the UN will label any fascist body as a violation of human rights.

>>137954465
You'll notice that no fascists are so pathetic as to use that excuse.

>>137950006
Jews had them violently shut down. Jewry is a global scourge.

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>>137940578
>inb4 demoKKKrat

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>>137939255
No. It lacks longevity.

>>137954281
fascism greatly expanded gun rights to everyone except ethnic minorities

>>137939255
pinochet wasnt a fascist you retards

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>>137939255
No beacuse (((they))) wont let them especially after ww2
There are 159 memorial and museums across the world spread across 39 countries entirely dedicated to the holocaust, just to make sure you never forget about those evil fascist

The 3rd Reich had so many people fight against them it's obviously a lost cause

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>>137939255
Singapore

when will you children realize that both communism and socialism are as bad as fascism

>Republic of China is literally current Taiwan

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>>137941955
>Italy
>fascist

>>137959561

Why does he wear the mask?!

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>>137939255
Conditions in each of these countries were better during fascism than before and after.

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>>137939255
here, let me show you how it's done, pic related.

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>>137939255

ALL systems that have been tried, have failed, on a long-enough timeline. We need to ask a better question, like: How long and/or stable do different systems do, comparatively speaking?

That's a better question!

Here's the part where you lose badly: Rome. What do I win?

>>137950811
Military leadership - great
Hitler - tactical blunderfests

>>137939255
you'd have to define succeed but really in all the standard things politicians try to address it actually succeeds pretty much every time, unemployment in nazi germany just as an example was 0%, it just gets SHUT DOWN every time

>>137950280
I believe it was a play on the famous excuse commies use "It failed because it wasn't real communism". Depois pagas-me um café

>nobody posted the communism version yet
I dont have it either

>>137939255
>Chile
>failed

>>137939255
>"fails"
>gets shut down by foreign powers
Hmmmm.

If any of you are real fascist you should join this discord. V7ApTX

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>>137939255
Singapore is applied Mosley.

>>137961362
>Hitler - tactical blunderfests
American education. Hitler put people like Rommel or Manstein in charge who were widely ignored and disliked by other people but Hitler saw their potential. He wasn't as incompetent as the history channel says

>>137939255
>Unironically believing that it failed in Germany, Spain, Portugal, and Chile.

lmao

No, people only respond well to fascism in times of conflict. Fascism as stabile system cannot exist without the idea of hostility either from competing political systems or other perceived enemies. Which is why fascism will always revert to something else over a period of time unless conflict exists, because it's positions require there to be one.

>>137939255
Was Chile's flag really a cartoon stock projection?

>>137963949
Please tell me how Fascist Germany, Spain, Portugal, and Chile survived.

>>137939255
Half of those countries can't be fascist because fascism advocates white supremacy.

Idiot.

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>>137964813

Can't tell if a troll or not.