This is what the alt-left believe. How would you counter this?

>>137870888
Leftists have unlimited tolerance for intolerance as long as those being intolerant are shitskins or women. The only intolerance they oppose is straight white male intolerance.

>>137870888

I would say anything that requires that many loopholes and qualifiers in order to be coherent isn't a well put together idea.

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With this?

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>>137870888
ISLAMOPHOBIA ALERT
if you repllace nazis with muslims this is a strafgeseztbuch deal away with you you racist piece of shit

>must be outside the law

Eat shit and die communists.

>>137871359

that does the job I reckon

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>>137871359
>>137871464
I understand that the alt-left is hypocritical in this regard, but the law DOES still in fact crack down on islamo-fascist groups. Pic related

>>137870888
The extinction of tolerance is what the Left is trying to carry out. They're just too delusional to realize it.

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>>137870888
Leftists may claim that their activism is motivated by compassion or by moral principles, and moral principle does play a role for the leftist of the oversocialized type. But compassion and moral principle cannot be the main motives for leftist activism. Hostility is too prominent a component of leftist behavior; so is the drive for power. Moreover, much leftist behavior is not rationally calculated to be of benefit to the people whom the leftists claim to be trying to help. For example, if one believes that affirmative action is good for black people, does it make sense to demand affirmative action in hostile or dogmatic terms? Obviously it would be more productive to take a diplomatic and conciliatory approach that would make at least verbal and symbolic concessions to white people who think that affirmative action discriminates against them. But leftist activists do not take such an approach because it would not satisfy their emotional needs. Helping black people is not their real goal. Instead, race problems serve as an excuse for them to express their own hostility and frustrated need for power. In doing so they actually harm black people, because the activists’ hostile attitude toward the white majority tends to intensify race hatred.

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>>137870888
We are the alt left
We are a legion
We will bash the fash
We will stomp on your freeze peach
We will create a safe space

We're comin, bucko

>>137872122
Why was he right about everything?

>>137870888
>Any movement that preaches intolerance and persecution must be outside of the law
Tolerance would only go extinct if they obtain a majority of political power. That doesn't mean they should be denied free speech. You cannot understand your enemy unless you allow him to speak.

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>>137870888
I would say that tolerance is a pathetic virtue that will ultimately lead to more conflict, since the "tolerated people" see only weakness, complacency, and a chance to normalize their own behavior.

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>>137871854
im sure this community service/prison time will replace his life's mission oh wait
french prison have a conversion rate rivaled nowhere else in france even ghettos think about that and realize that the state doesn't give a shit and they will feed people with your money and fail to rehabilitate them fuck off

>>137870888
So when are they banning communism and Islam?

It's not their "lack of tolerance for lack of tolerance" that is the problem, it is their definition of "lack of tolerance" and how far they want to stretch it.

Statues come down today, put in jail for wrong think tomorrow.

>>137870888
I can't even make any sense of that...

it's like a foreigner wrote it

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>>137871359
Eagle was out of place, changed it with a mosque

>>137870888
Just not with physical violence like chimpanzees. I enjoy arguining with commies and nazis.
Of course now the mainstream doesn't see that they're ignoring a threat coming from the left.

>>137871359
Because Muslims as a group of people aren't the problem, terrorists are. If there was a hateful Muslim group gathering in a park with torches, I'd say to not tolerate them either.

This version would only be equated with the OP poster if it were saying not to tolerate any germans, because nazis were germans, so that means all germans are nazis. Which would be insane to say.

>>137871464
Clear cut shill

>>137870888
Point out how hypocritical they are. Demand that they abide by the rules they preach, and if they insist on not doing it, point out how they agree with you. Just be prepared to present evidence of why your ideas are based in reality.

Read Saw Alinsky's rules for radicals... always preludes interactions as to be part of why they are defending, i.e., "My grandmother is Jewish," if you're white.

>>137870888

Sure, go ahead and put foreigners before your own people. See what that does to your society. Human history is full of savagery, and anyone that messes with the concept of a nation is a fool. Whites are the only group that plays the tolerance game.

>Sir Karl Raimund Popper CH FBA FRS[7] (28 July 1902 – 17 September 1994) was an Austrian Jewish
checks out

>>137873099
>...always prelude interaction by pretending to be part of what they are defending

>>137871359
>ben garrison

lol every time

>>137872539
Karl Popper did actually believe communists should not be tolerated. Popper's paradox of tolerance is basically just anti-extremes on the left and right; anyone who is against liberalism cannot be tolerated if they attract enough attention or support.

>>137872920
>Because white people as a group...

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>>137870888
This is what this propaganda piece is saying:
>tolerance vs intolerance = intolerance wins
Which doesn't really make any sense.

What's really going on is this:
>liberal intolerance = tolerance
>conservative intolerance = intolerance
or in other words: our intolerance is better than your intolerance, which is just absurd. They are literally trying to redefine intolerance as tolerance. It's straight up double think, which they admit when they say it's a "paradox." No, it's not a paradox, you're just using double think, you retard.

>>137872920
lmao wrong
the right is all nazis now because they associate with neo-nazis at their rallies. a few bad apples does spoil the bunch unless you're a muslim.

>>137870888
I'd tell them to stop drawing bad cartoons and open a book to learn how and why national socialism became a thing, maybe they'll recognize the signs.

>>137870888
Islam

>>137873460
Exactly, a lot of right-wing white guys have this triggered defensive mode, where whenever it's pointed out that being white affords you some priveledges, they get all bent out of shape and think that you're saying that white people (they) are all evil (hate them)

(ie reeee somebody doesn't like me and it doesn't feel good, time to get defensive and sad).

The poster isn't saying all white people shouldn't be tolerated. Nazis and White Supremacists aren't to be tolerated.

>>137870888
it's basically
>we can do x
>they can't do x
hypocrites

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>>137870888

>>137870888
>tumblr cartoon
>literally Hitler
Who wants to bet that Mr. Popper is a kike?

>>137872735
Ochen Xorosho

>>137873716
Right wingers who defend the rallies are equally as bad, or refuse to speak up against it. If they do, fair play.

You can look up tons of anti-terrorist rallies by Muslims. Who do you think lives in the crossfire over there when terrorists start going off? Non-terrorist Muslims.

>>137871359
sshhh they're not supposed to get slapped with this until they've gone all the way down the nazi hole

>>137871359
this kills the sjw brain

This is a repackaging of the Intolerance of Intolerance. It's meant to convince sheep into thinking that it's okay for marxists for practice political censorship and political violence against their enemies. ie it's okay to crush a nazi because they're evil, but a criminal nigger rioters in BLM or the terrorist soldiers using useful idiots as meatshields in Antifa are "tolerable" because they're tolerant, good people but sometimes you just have to bash a fash.

Marxism has, coincidentally, inflicted millions and millions of civilian casualties in genocides carried out by the "Tolerant" and untold amounts of human misery. If there's any ideology that shouldn't be tolerated it's Marxists controlled by the genocidal, hate-filled jews who are the Inner Party members of every commie organization.

>>137870888
I honestly hope I'm being trolled, because this is probably the most ironic fucking thing I have ever seen. My god leftists have the intelligence level of a plat of spaghetti

>>137870888
Paradox of tolerance is solved rather simply. Neoliberal philosophy of Popper is logically bankrupt, and is to put it simply a neoliberal dictatorship.

True Republic simply chooses what to accept based on consensus. Different societies choose different things in different times, as consensus evolves.

Popper is a demagogue, nothing more.

>>137871185
Fpbp

Notice how thinly veiled this cartoon is asking for authoritarianism. Essentially saying intolerance should be illegal. These people are freaks and the epitome of useful idiots. If they got their commie wish, I wonder what their last thoughts would be as they're lined up in front of a red firing squad as so many have before them.

>>137873655
Yup, this makes perfect sense, if it weren't for the fact that they were bashing normal Trump supporters long before Charlottesvile, their bullshit double think would've gotten me. Not this time. I don't think what they deem as intolerance will be going away lack last time

>>137873445
Popper wanted to ban anything that wasn't international, neoliberalism

Such tolerance

Not a single ethical argument in it, therefore it's shit made for emotional teenagers.

>>137872920
nazis are politically aligned with antifat but differ on who they hate. they're aligned with islam/isis and you. the right wants less government and actually extends inalienable rights to all groups including the ones you or socialist/commie/nazi fucks don't want us to give it to. you're a slaver. i hope your mother dies.

>>137874128
I don't understand why people think the left has a hard on for Islam? Because we don't label all Muslims as terrorists?

The Quran has nasty shit in it, and so does the Bible and the Torah. But just like most Christians and Jews, most Muslims ignore or "reinterpret" that shit. Just read up on any modern bible study of what "slavery back then REALLY meant, and how it doesn't REALLY condone the slavery in America". Ok buddy.

Most people have their religions to make themselves feel good and because they're afraid of hell, that's it.

The left is against terrorists, because no shit. We just also know that your average Muslim isn't going to go crazy and start blowing shit up, because that's fucking ridiculous.

I don't like that the christian next door to me doesn't support gay marriage, and I don't like that the muslim on the other side doesn't support it either. I don't think their special little books should mean my gay friends can't get married, but as long as they aren't marching in a park calling for violence against gays, they can pray or believe whatever they fuck they want in their own house.

>>137873854

>How dare you get mad when we call you evil racists who need to die

Whites are so stupid lmao. They should admit that they're all immoral oppressors and kill themselves already

>>137870888
I believe it too. This is why we must not tolerate SJWs or Antifa. (Nazi KKK LARPers can fuck right off as well.)

>>137874047
>How dare you defend free speech

>>137870888

>Mental Gymnastics: The Infograph

>>137874619
the left openly advocates to doxx and hurt destroy lives of the other political spectrum. take off your fag flag why is that even a thing now so shills can shill better? disgusting.

>>137870888
look for similarities:
"Why, thank you, I appreciate that you do not tolerate everything. See, its the same with me. I tolerate almost everything except the really bad stuff that is dangerous like commies, niggers..."
"You see, we are quite similar already"

>>137874619
the quran is utterly despicable and yet its the tamest of the 3 holy books of the mudslimes. The Hadith and that other book whose name are forget are much, much worse.

The bible does not even compare to the quran, much less to those two other books

>>137872920
>Muslims as a group of people aren't the problem, terrorists are.
>muslim majority countries institutionalize the oppression of women, giving them half the weight in court, no rights to land or inheritance, inability to drive to walk in public alone; the public execution of gays and thieves; the taxation of other religions just for the right to exist in their territories and you still might get killed anyways, and honor killing/bride kidnappings

you're a funny guy.

>>137874619
Because you support Islamic ideas that the left would dislike in any other religion

Sexism, slavery, discrimination, genocide, terrorism, pedophilia, rape, racism, war, murder, etc are all ok as long as Muslims do it.

>>137874619
Because you insist on importing millions of people from Islamic shitholes and expect them to not turn our countries into shitholes when they arrive here. Terrorism is only a small problem compared to the large scale crime they bring and the fact they're never going to be productive in a western society.

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>>137870888
This just shows how incompetent tolerant societies are. Intolerant movements and ideas rise, not because the society is tolerant, but because the tolerant society is unable to solve major problems. Banning intolerant groups won't solve the problems that brought these groups to life, only justify the intolerant group and give a popularity boost.
Same for intolerant societies: they fall because they are unable to solve worsening problems and not because they banned some shitty sjw music.
The masses are so fucking simple, circus and bread are enough to appease them, the majority doesn't care what type of society gives them show and food.

>>137874770
This literally proved the point of my post. It's like a little kid overreacting when their parents get mad at them.

"Oh so I should just run away then? Oh so I guess I'm just AWFUL and NO GOOD. Maybe I should just KILL MYSELF IF YOU ALL HATE ME SO MUCH"

Just like "You know it's easier for white guys to ignore nazis when they aren't the ones being targeted by them"
"OH so ALLLL white guys are evil and you HATE ME soooo much, I guess you just want me to DIE" ;_; ;_;

Like whoa, who hurt you? Who didn't give you enough hugs?

Chill out, bro. Stop getting so triggered. Nobody is saying all whites are evil racists or deserve to die. If you're not one of those nazi douchebags, we're not talking about you. This is what memes on the left mean when they mock "NOT ALL MEN"

If you're not one of those kinds of men, then we weren't talking about you? Why are you so defensive like we are. Are you that scared and hurt by the slight possibility of somebody disliking you?

They are branding neocons and conservatives as Nazis to discredit them.

Also, if you cannot suppress an ideology by deconstructing its ideas and discrediting them then you have no business denouncing it.

Hitler did nothing wrong

>>137870888
>This is what the alt-left believe. How would you counter this?

FUCKING MUSLIMS, BLM, AND SJW.

>>137870888
slippery slope fallacy

>>137870888
>This is what the alt-left believe. How would you counter this?

Also Tolerance is bullshit. What you need to do is respect peoples god given rights. And never except anything less in return.

>>137870888
"So that means i should not tolerate things such as transgender, homosexuality because it has lead to teh intolerance of opposing opinions on the subject?"

>>137870888
You're looking for ways to support nazis? You fucking cunt.

>>137874619
>I don't like that the christian next door to me doesn't support gay marriage, and I don't like that the muslim on the other side doesn't support it either.
here's the difference you fucking nutter, no Christian country today has citizens who throw gays off rooftops for the crime of being gay. 75% of islamic countries have gay roof-chuckings monthly in 2017. Christianity went through a reformation in the Elightenment where all the crazy old testament shit is now ignored, but remembered. Islam is still literally in the dark ages and still doing medieval shit like child brides and gay-tossing.

>>137874619
Do you think it's fair if a private christian business refuses to provide service to a gay couple? Because if that christian business loses that court case do you see why that might be a problem?

"Tolerance and Apathy are the last virtues of a dying society."
-Aristotle

>>137875336
This also goes directly against what I said in my post. I'm against all of those things no matter what religion is pushing it. You think that me being ok with moderate Muslims walking around means I support all that. The minute they start calling and marching for changes in US policy to support those things, I'll call out against them. That's why I was saying though, there are passages in the bible that support slavery etc, but im not stupid enough to think that Joe Schmo Christian is walking down main st thinking "Slavery should be legal!"

And even in the case where a Muslim and a Christian believe in "only a man and a woman!". As long as they keep that shit in their homes, and out of US policy, fine. So don't marry a dude if you're a dude, that's your choice. The rest of us will be doing what they want.

You don't really have any reading comprehension.

>>137870888
Because every political movement doesn't tolerate a group of people. For the left its white males. For the right it's degenerates. For the alt right it's non whites.

>>137873952
>3) No one asks that of ANY non-white country.

They have started, albeit timidly, to ask that of Japan.

>>137871359
Perfectly executed, kikel. You go last in the oven.

>>137870888
Replace the nazis in the pic with muslims

>>137875925
>boohooo ppl treat me like a nigger
fuck off with your victim complex you nigger, if you have it so bad go fucking kill yourself you fat fucking neet

>>137875913
> moderate Muslims

No such thing. What you have is bad Muslims and many of those feel guilty for not following Islamic precepts well enough.

>>137870888
Isn't this the exact same line of reasoning Hoppe uses?

>>137874047
it's really unfortunate that neo-nazis are a bunch of cling ons, because the right is only defending the right to voice their own ideology. both they and nazis are having their right to free speech squelched. the right who might be against unchecked immigration are being thrown under the bus along with the nazis because the left is too stupid to differentiate between the two. they boil it down to not liking brown people, toss nuance in the garbage, and just start shouting nazi.
what muslims do to other muslims is missing the point, stop conflating the entire right in the us with nazism.

>>137870888
Make it about islam

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>>137870888
Why are leftests so tolerant of Islam? It's the least intolerant ideology in the World.

>>137875678
Yeah, I would consider guys throwing people off rooftops terrorists. So no shit I'm against that. Are Muslims all over America doing that? Just because somebody is Muslim means they agree with the guy who is throwing people off of roofs. Just like your average christians doesn't support the kinds of Christians who beat the shit out of gays, drag them behind trucks or whatever. In Jamaica, it's Christians who are chasing gays into the ocean so they drown. Am I going to say that I am against all Christians and Jamaicans now? Get real. Even if an average Jamaican in america is against gay marriage, it doesn't mean they believe in chasing somebody into the ocean to drown.

>>137872735
ty tovarisch

>>137876185
>moderate christians.

So youre average christian feels guilty about slavery being illegal? Get a clue. Most Christians don't even know half the fucked up rules about what is punishable by death and the rules about rape and marriage etc. Or they have some loophole where those don't apply. All religious people do it.

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>>137870888
I would counter it with the fact that the Supreme Court of The United States has already unanimously ruled on "hate speech", so the Alt-Left has no ground to stand on.


"Supreme Court unanimously reaffirms: There is no ‘hate speech’ exception to the First Amendment"
>https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/06/19/supreme-court-unanimously-reaffirms-there-is-no-hate-speech-exception-to-the-first-amendment/

The supreme law of the land comes before any of their little hurt fee-fees. If they don't like it, they're welcome to leave, but if they stay and keep pushing buttons they shouldn't be surprised when they catch a bullet to the head from police or military for trying to undermine our democracy I guess.

>>137875383
stop lying

>>137875913
The left openly shills for extremist Islam in Europe and the west

Saudi Arabia openly funds Wahabbist mosques around the world that not only spread salafism but recruit for ISIS, and if you criticize them you go to jail.

Slavery, rape, genocide, murder, etc everything associated with ISIS is taught as legitimate. Yet somehow that's protected speech while objecting to tearing down Confederate states is apparently unprotected speech

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>>137872920
>Because Muslims as a group of people aren't the problem
Yeah, lemme tell you something about "nonterroristic" islamic societies:
>They steal more then the average white person
>They kill more then the average white person
>They give a fuck about the belongings of other persons
>They give a fuck about the belief and the religion of other persons
>The "moderate" muslim is antisemitic
>The "moderate" muslim gives a fuck about slaves, shipped in from the third world to build his shithomes in rich muslim countries
>The "moderate" muslim gives a shit about beheaded homosexuals

But I am probably just "biased", because I meet persons like this in cologne every fucking day.

>>137872920
If you hsve not read Koran, Book 9, Book of the Sword, or, at least, do not understand what its contents might be, then you can pass no judgement as to terrorism in relation to islam. You are giving them carte blanche to do as they please.
But I would like mohammed himself to have the final say on this:
"I have been made victorious through terror".

>>137876286
okay so what exactly is the right doing that makes them nazis? other than defending their right to free speech? what are they doing that has you so itchy that you need to call them out like you would call out muslims for throwing gays from rooftops?

>>137870888

Tolerance != tolerating the intolerant

this is basic shit. if trumpcucks want to have little circlejerks in their destitute communities by themselves, that's fine, just keep your subhuman paws inside your shithole excuse for "states"

>>137875835
I actually just got done reading The Republic and it's crazy to think how similar the things Plato warned about, how democracy leads to tyranny, is happening right now. Tolerance will always find a way to breed intolerance, if guys ALL THE WAY BACK THEN figured it out there's no reason to believe it doesn't apply to the first world. I just wish everyone would acknowledge this stuff so we could move towards constructing a peaceful solution (if there even is any)

>>137872920
>Compare a religion to a nationality
I am being baited?

>>137875383
That's how racism/sexism works, idiot

You aren't supposed to judge people collectively

How are you this blind to your own hypocrisy? The whole point of objecting to racism/sexism is that "not all x are y" is supposed to be true. If you believe "all white males are y" you are pushing racism. It's that fucking simple.

Part of negotiation, dialogue, therapy, etc is being able to speak your mind without judgement.

The longer we promote intolerance, the more we promote escalation of negative feelings. The longer we escalate negative feelings, the more we promote intolerance and as a consequence, violence. In such an escalated state, it is more difficult if not impossible to think of these grand-scale political issues in rational or factual manners.

The cultural party in power (the left, MSM, in this case), has the duty of creating a culture of open expression as to promote wider tolerance through expression, listening, and a convergence on 'the fact itself' as opposed to 'the meaning of a fact'.

Any other formulation of society does not promote the common good. Such societies are well-disguised but nonetheless self-interested.

>>137876683
i'm alright with that but you can fuck off if you think me not coddling the feelings of countless men from 3rd world countries that left their families to die makes me a nazi

>>137876570
Yeah, and your averaage muslim will gloss over those passages with some bullshit exscuse about how that's not what it REALLY means. Just like your average Christian will do about the passages about being allowed to beat your slave to death, or a girl marrying her rapist. They'll say something about how the word "rape" back then really meant BLAH BLAH BLAH.

You're trying to convince me that the Quran is trash. Yeah, no kidding, it's a holy book. It's full of crazy shit like the rest of them. For some reason, people still believe them. Thankfully, most people prefer "Diet Bible/Quran" to Original Recipe.

>>137876632
White people existing is a form of Nazism according to the left

>>137876470
Are you retarded? Christianity is about forgiving the sinner. You can literally sin all your life as a christian and be forgiven on your deathbed. Same for kikes where no Hell exists, only degrees of Paradise, even for goyims.
In islam you go to Hell for the smallest stray step. That's why "moderate" muslims can't exist, because if you're a "moderate" muslim, you are not a muslim.

>>137876907
>coddling the feelings of countless men from 3rd world countries that left their families to die makes me a nazi

what the fuck are you even talking about? you are spending far too many of your formative years here, you impressionable child.

>>137876570

Bible is full of barbaric passages too. Doesn't seem to bother you much, does it?

>>137876683
By not tolerating the intolerant we promote further violence. Perhaps it would be better to find a way to solve the hysteria that drives intolerance rather than treating the symptom.

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>>137870888
I would say that tolerance is a fals god.
Forcing others to integrate in to different society by set society is requrided.
Dont like the society move or try to be independent so that you and them dont have to interact with the set society.

>>137877069
The left actively defends muslims that teach Wahabbism. They don't gloss over the violent parts, they urge all young Muslim men to fight for a new Caliphates.

If anything the left defends the radical jihadists that kill moderate muslims in Syria and Iraq. You do everything assbackwards

>>137876632
Uh, nothing? I never said that the right are nazis. Nazis are nazis. This kind of goes back to my post about
>>137875383

So much defensiveness. Are you a nazi? Then I'm not talking about you. Are you a conservative and have different ideas about the role of taxes and welfare? Cool, but maybe we disagree. Are you a fucking nazi? Do you believe in stricter border rules, alright, but I probably disagree with you. But are you a full blown White Supremacist? Then yeah, swiftly catch a disease. Same applies to muslim terrorists, christian gay basers, etc.

Conservatives see things in black and white a lot. So when they see something like "A lot of whites are complicit with racism" they see "ALL WHITES ARE EVIL" or when they see "There's no danger from your average Muslim" they see "I SUPPORT THE QURAN IN FULL AND ISLAM CAN DO NO WRONG". They don't see the grey areas in betweeen.

>>137870888
The open society....

Well I wonder who is behind this.

>>137877237
It's mostly the Jewish parts that promote genocide, rape, slavery, racial purity, intolerance, etc

Maybe we should ban Jews then in the name of stopping Nazism.

>>137877421
If you have a sources on this, I'd love to read it. There's a lot of Muslims in my neighborhood. They don't go around "fighting for a new caliphates" or whatever. They mostly try to save up some cash and spend less grocery shopping so they can go on vacation next summer, and fight about whether they can afford a second car since the kids are older and need rides places.

Popper should stay with philosophy and not muddy such waters.

If you at all value freedom of speech, then you value controversial ideas -- such as this "intolerance".

Also, that piece shows that the "tolerance" being pushed is biased, So, it's not really blind tolerance: it's tolerating political ideas you agree with and silencing those you don't.

Nazis are never a good example and purely emotional pandering.

Wait... The idea of a non tolerant society becoming acceptable seems good imo. If normies at least stop spewing the word tolerance for no reason, even if its to fight """nazis""" then its not a bad thing. Tolerance is the last vestige of a dying society, and if we could twist it to also encompass extreme leftism then it would be huge.

Kids today should be as ashamed to carry the Hammer and Sickle as they should be the carry the Swastika.

>>137873854
That might be a valid point if not for the fact that libcucks are trying to redefine fascism and nazism to include anyone who believes in facts over their religion

>>137871464
YOU are the "islamophobe" - you grovel in fear before them, like a worm.

>>137875383
>No one is saying
Look up Trinity College Professor Johnny Eric Williams

>>137870888
https://medium.com/incerto/the-most-intolerant-wins-the-dictatorship-of-the-small-minority-3f1f83ce4e15

Here's the same argument applied against Islam, because Taleb is honest.

>>137877505
>Most black people eat watermelon

Wow fucking racist sm-h. #not all blacks

>Most women like fashion

Wtf? Sexist. #nit all women

>Most white people are evil racists and bigots

Nope nothing racist here. He's just stating a fact.

The hypocrisy is insane

>>137877826
No, that would mean that it's still a valid fact, but that "libcucks are trying to redefine..." would be an additional, also true fact. Facts don't cancel each other out.

>>137870888
>This is what sane people believe.
ftfy

>>137878078
Any chance you could rewrite that in coherent english?

>>137870888

Who defines what "Intolerant" means?

That is the argument. For instance is it intolerant to not let your son/daughter have a sex change if they're 10?

>>137870888
>it's a paradox
well there you go then

>>137870888
The flaw is I defend tolerance and freedom of speech, and so do most of the people who these idiots call "nazis". In fact, I believe in freedom. The problem is that me (and a significant minority of europeans) have lost the space to have their freedom. We should divide europe in two parts and let them do whatever they want with their half. That would be real freedom.

>>137877703
Sources for Wahabbism?

https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/06/06/london-terror-attack-its-time-to-confront-wahhabism-and-saudi-arabia/

Way to expose your own blinding ignorance. Saudi Arabia is allowed to finance Wahhabism around the world without consequence.

>>137878256
The left defines all non communists as intolerant thereby justifying the genocide of anyone to the right of Karl Marx

>>137878078
Or perhaps you're not understanding the point so here goes

"We tolerate people except nazis and fascists"
ok cool, most people agree with this

"By the way, nazis now include anyone who doesn't believe blatant lies such as BLM, gender wage gap, transgenderism etc"

What the fuck?

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>>137878256
Our SCOTUS defines it for us and have ruled in favor of free speech.

>>137873854
Context matters. The comic is blatantly trying to justify the application of violence to shut down non-violent moderate right wing rallies that encourage open debate like in Charlottesville.

>>137878285
This guy has a pretty good idea. Letting society divide itself in a healthy manner would be better than duking it out.

>>137878019
>Most black people eat watermelons
Most PEOPLE eat watermelons. I don't think I know anybody who hates watermelon. That means that over-hyping how much black people like it is a just a racist joke.

>Most women like fashion
Most people like to look good. Look at Red-Pill blogs about how to dress and look. Everyone wants to get banged. So if you're going out of your way to single out woman for it, why?

>most white people are EVIL racists and bigots
Again, nobody is saying most whites are bigots. There are some articles online that say the most white people can be rasist. Sure, I've thought and done racist things I'm not proud off (not sat on a certain side of the subway in high school because that side was mostly black). The part you're adding is the EVIL part. You're so hurt that people think you're SO EVIL AND BAD.

Nobody is saying that. They're just saying that, yeah, those things happen. Just admit they happen, that it's not right, and move on.

I really think some people had some rough childhoods, where they just HATE to be accused of doing ANYTHING short of perfect, and if somebody is calling them out on it, they obviously think they are SOOO EVIL and deserve to die.

This is exactly what I was talking about with this post.
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>>137870888

>THE ONLY WAY TO DEFEAT FASCISM IS TO BECOME FASCIST

Liberal Logic

>>137870888
Private property literally solves all economic and political disputes. Leave me alone and I'll leave you alone. And I hope you don't mind but I build a fence to keep you away from me. And If you disrespect my privacy I will shoot you. Let's do business some time.

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>>137870888
This is easy (and Popper lacks philosophical rigour, I must say):

In practice, there's no difference in the way the tolerant society and intolerant society work in the given hypothesis. The difference lies in what is subjectively perceived as tolerant and intolerant. For example: In a communist society nazism is intolerant of its ideals. In a nazist society communism is intolerant of its ideals. That's it.

On this matter, I believe Popper's flawed (or let's say sophist) logic asks for an intellectually monolithic society no different than the society he's criticizing. His biggest flaw is in playing with the word "tolerant". Who's to decide what's tolerant and what's not? Tolerant of what? I the end this boils down to the old accusatory game: whoever accuses the other side as being intolerant is perceived as tolerant, when in the end both have things they are tolerant or intolerant to (or accepting or denying of).

The solution is simply a matter of lodging different views under the greater umbrella given by Enlightenment thinkers. The USA already has the solution for harboring different views under equal coverage since 1776, with its 1st Amendment enshrined in its Constitution.

>>137878674
No, it's because retards on the left keep shifting the goal posts so racism now includes not being attracted to a given race and it's transphobic to not want to have sex with a tranny

Crying wolf, like the left has done for years, only waters down the words so people stop caring about being called racists. It's become meaningless

>>137878532

>You will never walk through a park with your mates holding tiki torches shouting "Jews will not replace us"

Why did I have to be born a Britcuck.

>>137878526
Not all people who believe those things are nazis, but all nazis believe those things. If you don't like those things, we think you're an asshole and a blowhard, but not a nazi or a facist. You just have to find a way to live with the idea that some people are going to hate your guts and think you're an asshat for believing those things. Just like you think I'm a moron for supporting them. Doesn't make me lose any sleep. I don't think that people are saying "ALL LIBTARDS ARE EVIL" or whatever the fuck.

>>137878852
the real difference is that not tolerating the intolerant keeps nazis, communists and religious nutjobs from killing people

>>137879151
>Just like you think I'm a moron for supporting them.
>Said the guy hiding under an anarchist flag

>>137878674
>nobody is saying most whites are bigots

But they are saying that. The only question seems to be how whites must be punished for their evil bigotry.

>The part you're adding is the EVIL part

You're saying racism isn't evil?

>You're so hurt that people think you're SO EVIL AND BAD

It's what the communists said about the bourgeoisie before they started massacring them. You need to frame a group as evil before you can kill them.

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>>137878954
You could always come visit if you want to run around with tiki torches I guess.

The best part about the SCOTUS decision is it completely obliterates the leftist faggots. They have one of two options a) accept the authority of the Supreme Court on the matter and back down or b) say the Supreme Court's decision doesn't matter, in which case none of the Court's decisions matter, which means all the protections for gays/trannies/muslims/etc. don't matter either. Your move, commie scum.

>>137870888
Basically this is a justification for enforcing thought crime. It will lead to the outlawing of mainstream/ conservative Christianity for it's pastor's refusal to marry gays, or admit that homosexuality or transsexuality are moral goods.

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>>137870888

>communists
>tolerance

>>137879408
That's a long way down the road, but yeah it probably will happen eventually

>>137878949
You're not attracted to an ENTIRE RACE? That just seems improbable. I could find somebody I'd like to fuck of every race. I mean, preference is one thing, you can prefer blondes to brunettes. But an entire race being an automatic turn off? That is kind of racist.

The trans thing might be pushing it, even for a libtard like me. I mean, I wouldn't give a shit if somebody is trans or not. But I don't think you can just switch your brain into getting hard for a dick if you're straight. Just like you can't "pray the gay away"

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>>137878852
I meant 1788.

>>137879549
Learn to read man

>>137870888
make a muslim edit of it

>>137871359
beat me to it

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>>137879549
>But an entire race being an automatic turn off? That is kind of racist.
I'm going to assume you've never been to the US and seen our black women. It's not racist, it's just reality.

>>137870888
(((The Open Society)))

they're not even trying anymore.

>>137870888
well, that concerns leftists as well, ban left nazis!

>>137879336
Having racist thoughts isn't evil, it's just bad. Just because you do something bad, doesn't mean you're evil. You can talk to a therapist about it, if you like.

They're saying most white can BE RACIST. that's different than being a bigot. You can have a racist moment, but not be an active bigot, as in you SUPPORT and believe in racism as a good thing.

So, if you do a racist thing and realize it, and say "oh shit, that was racist, sorry, I actually didn't mean it". Then you're not a bigot. People are allowed to still be pissed at you for doing it, but it doesn't mean they think you're evil.

Just because somebody is mad at you, doesn't mean they think you're SO BAD and should die. I don't know who did what to you to make you think that, but it's not true. People get mad at me all the time because I'm a general clutz and a fuckup socially, but they don't HATE ME SO MUCH.

If you do a racist thing and say "So what? No big deal! OH so you think I'm SOOO BAD? FUCK YOU!" people are going to think you're a bigot.

Stop thinking in black and white and see the grey area. That's exactly the point those videos explaining racism say. Just recognize you can be racist, and own up to it. Look up "everybodies a little bit racist" by Avenue Q. Kind of proves the point.

>>137877069
>most people prefer "Diet Bible/Quran"
Most christians prefer diet bible. See literally every christian culture.
Same can not be said about Islamic culture. Go to any country where the state religion is Islam, they do not follow a "diet" version.

>>137879457
I'm sure Christians thought that a purge was a long way durn the road, just before the Bolshevik revolution.

>>137878661
Indeed, fuck them. I don't care about what they do as lont as it doesn't affect me and the people who I can relate with.

Don't worry, if such a thing became a reality they will totally destroy their part within 10 years, and then they will beg us to help.

>>137880184
But I already made the point that in Jamaica christians are chasing gays into the ocean to drown. That doesn't mean I think all Jamaicans are like that, or that Jamaicans in the US are doing that all over the place. Or that all christians are going to start chasing gays into the ocean. Not all chrisitans priests are pedophiles etc etc. I can be against the people that produce terrorism or hiding pedophilia, without throwing everybody who owns the same book under the bus.

>>137878285
I'm all up for this, we relocate all the Muslims to the lands once occupied by the Moors.

A little thought nugget for the lefties in this thread. Realize that you're being played enormously. This is the voice of a man who had family members killed by the KKK. A black man. You may think you're doing the right thing. You may think you're supporting "oppressed minorities" but this is the voice of the oppressed minority right here. Listen to what he has to say and stop listening to pundits with an agenda who are playing you like a fool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ23n8t4gGk

>>137879870
Did you just assume my nationality? I live in the US bruh.

Doing the whole hot/ugly picture of this race/nation vs. this hot/ugly picture of this other one is some bargain-basement trolling though. You could be more creative than that.

"Why won't people accept my white nationalist ideas?! Give me a chance!"
"Okay, what would you like to say?"
"Kill yourself you fucking Communist"

Wow that was quick.
Man this is truly the best fucking timeline seeing the alt-right slowly eat itself up until it disappears. You're going to be nothing but a distant memory by next year

>>137880444
And we move all the white spaniards towards the north. Deal.

I can't stand these summers anyways.

>>137871359

Top-tier propaganda and psyops is my favourite thing about Israel shills. I can't help but respect and admire the jews when they pull this shit off. I bet your co-worker is OP and you had this ready to go. Bravo Jews.

>>137880595
Dude, I hate white nationalists too, but don't use strawman arguments. There's plenty of real meat to chew on.

>>137870888
Counter this? Let them do this more, the normies that actually read this will end up scratching their heads.

>>137870888
I wonder how different the world would be if Nazis had never existed; obviously very different, but just in terms of providing these kinds of arguments.

Nazism is the one fallback argument these people have that makes any kind of sense due to the historical context. Imagine a world where everything went down the same way it did, but without Nazis, what would they be able to argue about to make this point? Nothing. They'd just look as crazy as they actually are, nevermind using a regime from 70+ years ago to justify insanity

>>137871359
Amazing how quick that was turned back around lmao.

>>137870888
the counter is that what karl popper is saying does not apply because
-karl popper is talking about intolerance as in wanting to violate fundamental liberal principles like equal rule of law for different religions, social classes, sexes, races , wanting to violate democratic elections and replace it with a dicatorship or single party system, etc.
-antifa on the other hand are using policitcal violence against anyone right of centre. anyone who supports trump, anyone who is patriotic and wants what is best for american citizens, anyone who wants to reduce immigration, anyone who wants historical statues to remain in place.

these do not count as intolerant beliefs that represent a threat towards a tolerant society, in karl popper's reasoning.

so karl popper's reasoning is not relevent and not a good deffence for the political violence that has in the majority of cases been instigated by the far left.

>>137870888
Tolerant society can disappear for any reason.
"Free speech without being free of consequences" is what left advocates but it turns out that that form of so-called free speech has always existed, everywhere in the world.

Every monarchy, every empire, every dictatorship has "Free speech without being free of consequences". In North Korea you are free to say "I don't like Kim Jong Un". In Nazi Germany you are free to say "Fuck you Hitler you stupid kike".

This is because free speech is a trivial right, it takes a couple seconds to produce sounds with your mouth or to write down a simple notice, and requires virtually zero efforts.

Real free speech consists in *protecting* speech, and protecting people who produce it, in order to permit ideas to propagate.

Also, the left is universally against free speech, and want to forcefully brainwash society through massive censorship and propaganda, as they did in every communist dictatorship that has existed. USSR, China, Cambodia etc.

>>137871359
Thank you Schlomo, you are our greatest ally indeed.

>>137870888
fuck these pictoline guys, they half-read news and publish them as truths, think they know the absolute true and they sometimes post dumb sjw shit.

>>137880638
As long as it's not Catalonia or Basque country you niggers don't deserve to live there

>>137870888
By this logic... we shouldnt tolerate leftist. If we tolerare leftist, only the leftist will remain.

>>137880582
>bruh
Explain how it's racist, you little niglet. You can't. To even address that topic you'd have to address the very real fact that even black men don't want them and pursue white women as a result. Even if they fail, black men don't even want to be with black women.

>>137880836
It's actually the opossite, nazis fucked it up for us. It was not their intention, but they did.

But it had some possitive effects. Due to represive politics against these kind of ideologies, right-wing guys have adquired a level of dedication and self-sacrifice beyond any expectative. Not only that, more and more guys turn to our side, I see it in daily life. That doesn't happen among the left, since they are more or less in a "relaxed" and "peaceful" situation.

I think all of that may be just a consequence of action and reaciton. When a certain set of ideas become mainstream, people tend to revolt against them. Impositions and dogmas are certainly the best way to turn everyone against you.

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>>137879258
The difference is in how you're not tolerating the intolerant: In a liberty-based society as in the United States, ideas such as nazism, communism and religious bigotry are suppressed voluntarily through activism and voting. In an authoritarian society like Germany/England, people are coerced to think differently either by force of law or violence. The first acknowledges personal, individual responsibility and blames the individual for its actions, without dragging responsible, innocent people in the issue. The latter forfeits liberty for security and blames ideas.

>>137881226
I feel that you belong in the muslim zone.

>>137881597
I feel you belong out of the Basque country and Catalonia

This whole thread screams so loudly of doublethinking it's scary

>>137870888

Who determines the bad guy in this situation?

It's no paradox at all. The reason we should allow all opinions to be heard is to avoid violence.

Think about it. If the Antifa crowds echo chamber was not present they would have to argue their position, same with the alt right.

Both groups arguments are wrong so they would both be defeated, even with out the need for academic support.

When you are intolerant echo chambers are created, these groups fester and grow.

tldr; you don't beat oppression with more oppression, you beat it with freedom.

>>137881693
lmao

>>137872356
Because he's one of the few sane people in an insane world.

>>137873952
The problem is that they are denying points 1&2 as either false or trivial.

>>137881327
Yeah, I never see a black guy married to or dating a black woman. I'm so mad you got this wrong, I'm so baited. The only thing that triggers me is how bad you are at trolling. Be better.

>>137870888
Good, that means we can also reject Muslims and Communists, both are hegemonic ideologies which inevitably will not tolerate competition or freedom, both are objectively harmful to societies, one of them murdered more than twice as many innocents as the Nazis (if you don't factor in the Asian commies too) and the other holds beliefs which openly advocate for the genocide of a specific group.

>>137872169
You faggots can't even figure out how many genders there are. You will fail

>>137870888
The United States was built on the ideas of people labelled as crackpots, dangerous thinkers, and radicals. That's why no one has the right to forcibly enforce any "correct" way of thinking.
George Washington would be beaten in the streets by the tolerant leftists, were he alive today.

>>137870888
Then why are they tolerant to Muslims?

>>137873445
>Popper's paradox of tolerance is basically just anti-extremes on the left and right;
As expected of a Jew. Think about it.

>We don't want extreme good and extreme vil
>We want just medium good and evil
>This leads to evil becoming overpowering in every single case in human history - after all, the good men that do nothing really will allow evil to thrive
>This leads to extreme evil
>This also leads to a society that will ignore extreme evil while persecuting extreme good because "we don't want extremes"
>The extreme evil in this case has festered so long as medium evil that people cannot recognize for extreme evil anymore since "we don't have extremes here"
>This kills the civilization

Rinse and repeat for the last 4000 years. People never learn.

>>137871359
Thank you greatest ally.

>>137871359
>Ben Garrison

One tear of joy.

One tear of joy....

>>137870888

All this comic is saying is leftist intolerance is good but right wing ideas have to be against the law

Who gets to decide what is considered intolerant? ;^)

>>137871359
jews are truly the greatest subversive actors of all time. thanks, schlomo

>>137883327
me

>>137883875
You're being intolerant.

>>137870888
The Alt-Left seems to be alright with hate speech and nazis for that matter, so I guess your comic's wrong.

ANTIFA cheers on Hitler quotes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=derHRFGZ4NU

>>137883875
is the treatment of whites in western countries something that should be tolerated?

>>137870888
This is retarded

All it basically says is that what (((we))) subjectively think is (((wrongthink))) should not be allowed.

That's all it says, plain and simple.

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>>137870888
Since normies love using cartoons and children's fiction to make their arguments

>>137870888

The alt-left is intolerant.

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>>137884742
/r/ ing for some anons to make some more of pic related.
get creative

>>137872920
>being this naive about Islam
Guys I'm not kidding anymore, if the choice is between progressives and Islam I'm rooting for Islam to win

>>137880442
Jamaican society as a whole is homophopic isnt just the christians. In Jamaica you can be arrested for buggery if caught in the act. There have been cases where guys went to jail simply for holding hands.
Furthermore extreme hostility towards gays is large in most black lead nations.

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>>137870888
You prosecute based on actions not ideas.

>>137882408
I wish I was that good at getting (you)s

>>137870888
I'd observe with curiosity the implicit assumption that Nazi ideology is so attractive that it needs to be actively suppressed by the state in order to prevent it from taking over.

>>137874271
>I wonder what their last thoughts would be as they're lined up in front of a red firing squad as so many have before them
"B-but I thought I was going to be awarded with power and status!" BLAM

>>137871359
i can see why the commies like being your stooges

>>137870888

im not a fan of nazis
but damn karl popper loves his logical contradictions

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>>137887475

btw the solution without paradox would be easy:
IF you are for tolerance, you have to tolerate those who don't

Does this apply to rapefugees?

>>137871854
>incitement
Yes, indeed, it is and should be illegal to incite to violence - we have a strict standard for that handed down to us from SCOTUS in Brandenburg vs Ohio. However, what the alt-left is proposing goes beyond that - they want hate speech laws, not simply anti-incitement laws.

>>137872356
Because he was an exceptionally intelligent and perceptive man. Besides also being, you know, a terrorist.

>>137870888

>you must universally tolerate gays, lesbian, transsexuals, refugees, criminals, illegal aliens, Leftist violence, Antifa, corruption, and all manner of evil
>but you DARE have tolerance for the right!

>>137872169
If you need to take away the right to free speech in order to implement your politics we've kind of won anyway

>>137870888
Literally the exact same argument could be used for Muslims in the USA and religious freedom (separation of church and state).

Of course, this won't register to the alt-left, as their entire ideologue is based on hypocrisy.

>>137871359
good jew, good!

>>137870888
THE FIRST AMENDMENT

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>>137888006
>Jews are inferior
We don't claim Jews are intellectually inferior. Quite the opposite, IQ tests give them an average of like 109. We claim that they're MORALLY inferior - they are parasites sucking the blood of the civilizations to which they attach themselves, corrupting and degenerating societies so that they can derive a profit from them and then scurrying away once the edifice which they've rotted away from the inside begins to crumble. If a race war ever comes to the USA, you bet your ass all the California liberals kikes will be on the first plane to Ben Gurion faster than you can say "oy vey!"

>>137888006
>jews are inferior
That's not the argument, man. The argument is that they're parasites.

Karl Popper is essentially all but defending the concept of gulags and reeducation camps.

>>137870888
I agree fully.

Physically remove anyone who calls for suppression of other opinions. Nobody has the power to decide what views are ultimate truth and anyone claiming to must be shut down.

>>137873854
>Exactly, a lot of right-wing white guys have this triggered defensive mode, where whenever it's pointed out that being white affords you some priveledges, they get all bent out of shape and think that you're saying that white people (they) are all evil (hate them)

I assume you're trolling, but on the off chance you're not - having it pointed out to us that we enjoy advantages because of being white men is not what makes us angry. It's what comes after that, the condescension (which you exhibit), the feeling that you have the right to dismantle our culture and identity, the dismissal of our concerns without fair hearings.

>>137870888
Now explain why following that logic we should tolerate communist LARPers then?

>>137872920
Because before the Nazis took power they were publicly calling for death camps, etc. It was only a tiny minority of extremists commiting violence.

All you're doing is arguing against OP's comic.

>>137888006
We don't hate the jews because they're inferior. We hate them because they view the goys as inferior.

>>137891608
Because their intolerance is just intolerance for intolerance :^)

>>137890455
Yes, Islam and fascism are very close.
Hypocrisy is only enjoyed from a position of power, complaining about it is for losers.

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>Land of Free Speech
>not allowed to yell "BOMB!" in an airport cause people may get hurt
>fucking hypocrites!!

>Land of Free Speech
>not allowed to yell "DEATH TO BLACKS" in a black community cause people may get hurt
>fucking hypocrites!!

Free speech is a right. NOT A FUCKING PRIVILEGE!!

CHECK YOUR PRIVILEGES STORMFAGS

>>137871359
I had this image in my mind when I saw the OP and I knew this version would be made thnaks mate.

>>137891858
What credentials do they have that gives them absolute authority to define what opinions need to be suppressed? Genuine question.

> college education sweety :)

Putting yourself tens of thousands of dollars in debt to hear the opinions of a marxist with no credentials of his own does not make his opinions true.

>>137871359
Based fucking kike. G-d bless you.

>>137873655
You nailed it. No matter what the lefty groups are NEVER intolerant but any opinion they don't like is a Nazi option that needs to be shut down. The left should just admit that they hate America and the bill of rights.

The words "tolerance" and "intolerance" don't appear anywhere in the original formulation of the human rights. Tolerance is a mindset, this is not what people who care about freedom are fighting for. Instead they what they want and will fight for are rights, EQUALITY of RIGHTS for everybody (which "affirmative action" is the blatant opposite for instance) and FREEDOM, including the freedom to think whatever you want and to say so.

Rant about "tolerance" is a strawman, don't let leftist strawmen make yourself doubt about your values.

>>137870888
>How would you counter this?
I call them fags

>>137892208
The Supreme Court unanimously disagrees with you, faggot. Suck a fat dick, cunt.

"Supreme Court unanimously reaffirms: There is no ‘hate speech’ exception to the First Amendment"
>https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/06/19/supreme-court-unanimously-reaffirms-there-is-no-hate-speech-exception-to-the-first-amendment/

>>137870888
If the left can tolerate rapefugees then they can more than tolerate nazis.

>>137870888

As paradoxical as it may seem, just do it anyways. Because this kind of thing is typical for a liberal.
And what this is saying is that everyone must tolerate EVERYTHING or....they won't be tolerated.
Which is retarded. Which is also very typical for a liberal.

>>137872735
> ben garrison
Why the fuck you put name of this descent man on ugly oldturd "art"?

>>137875324
>>muslim majority countries institutionalize the oppression of women, giving them half the weight in court, no rights to land or inheritance, inability to drive to walk in public alone; the public execution of gays and thieves; the taxation of other religions just for the right to exist in their territories and you still might get killed anyways, and honor killing/bride kidnappings

But all of these things are objectively good

>>137893402
Well, dear Jamal, they obviously can't.
As seen million of times on TV and other Media, there is a large defamation action going on that does not care about facts, but slams out buzzwords and other insults to make up a point as hollow as a disappointing kinder surprise egg.

>>137892208
> create probable cause that you're going to kill/injure many people
> get detained for questioning

> Yell offensive things at a particular group on their turf
> they get mad at you

> WOW SO MUCH FOR FREEZE PEACH RIGHT BURGERS

>>137893226
easy
terrorists are always left-handed
with natonalist fanatics they keep the women in the middle and patriotic citizen keep women at the edge of the movement ...

>>137894059
You fucking retard
> any year of the human timeline
> support mudslim apes

>>137870888
Nice trips, I would tell them to Google the effects of the medications them and their children take, and equate them to cattle. Then point out who the real masters are. 2017 nazis of all races.

>>137870888
That's exactly why we've become intolerant of them.
They are incredibly blind.

>>137872920
>Because Muslims as a group of people aren't the problem, terrorists are.
Islam is a religion, a religion is an ideology, an ideology is a set of ideas. Islam is actively intolerant against people questioning its ideas. Why should we tolerate their intolerance?

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>>137881105
Thank. You.

>>137870888
It refutes itself.
Tolerance in and of itself is not the thing the find valuable, by his own admission.
He's proclaiming outright that there are many things which are more important.
In other words, he's admitting that there are some things which shouldn't be tolerated.

What you should question are his methods of selection for what should and shouldn't be tolerated.
What does he find tolerable, and is it rational that he tolerates these things?
Why will tolerating one thing and not another lead to a more functional society?
His assertion that nothing is tolerated is absurd though. People tolerate different things. The extinction of toleration would literally be the extinction of humanity.

>>137879423
Stupid commies will call out this because they don't like the source " the black book of communism"

>>137872920
Their religious book (the book that 100% of them at least claim to adhere to) literally advocates the murder of adulterers, apostates, and infidels.
Islam is by nature an intolerant religion in the same way that nazism is an intolerant ideology.

>>137870888
>a society is supposed to be ''tolerant'' = suicidal
>if it's too tolerant, the society dies
>therefore we need authoritarian communism with jews on the top who are the only ones allowed to define morality

Very good resume of the leftist paradigm i recon, sometimes i can't even tell what side memes are supposed to be

>>137870888
there is only one (1) reason to be intolerant of a viewpoint.
fear that you are wrong.

>>137870888
>Karl Popper's rejection of Marxism during his teenage years left a profound mark on his thought. He had at one point joined a socialist association, and for a few months in 1919 considered himself a communist. During this time he became familiar with the Marxist view of economics, class conflict, and history.[11] Although he quickly became disillusioned with the views expounded by Marxism, his flirtation with the ideology led him to distance himself from those who believed that spilling blood for the sake of a revolution was necessary.
Why is only Hitler and the Nazis on that picture, and not Kerensky saying "Let's give them a chance!" about the Bolsheviks?

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>>137870888

>>137872735
>>137871359
What we really need is an AntiFa edit.

>>137870888
It isn't even a paradox. Leftists are such brainlets.

>>137871854
approximately 1400 children in rotherham would disagree

>>137870888
This is exactly what nationalism is designed for and why "multiculturalism" is paradoxical.
To set up an ethnic clique is inherently intolerant. You don't tolerate the outsider influencing your in-group.
To have opposing views to the point of violence or silencing the other is intolerant.
So the parties are separated.

What is going on in Europe is a campaign of genocidal rape and mass murder.

>>137898452
Yes, it is. Being tolerant only to things you don't consider a threat isn't actually tolerant, so it's paradoxical to still call yourself tolerant.

Don't confuse this with me saying that tolerance is good, though.

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>>137871359
that's not a counter, that's doubling down.

>>137871359
That's good. Also need a version with communist symbols replacing nazi ones. Works both ways, comrade.

The problem with "not tolerating the intolerant" is that lines are blurry and it's on a slippery slope.

Like with Antifa people who are supposedly so tolerant yet throw shit at everyone, including leftist politicians.
They don't tolerate a single thought that doesn't straight align with anarcho-communism.

Now is Antifa an extreme example.

>>137893544
I feel that "not tolerating the intolerant" is ultimately a very conservative thing, as in to preserve the status quo.

They try to push a new normal and then do everything in their might to preserve that status quo, that includes kicking away people who disagree on certain things.

>>137877237
Mostly against a handful of peoples that the Jews already successfully genocided before Rome was even a thing.

So unless you're an OG Canaanite or Philistine or eight-day old jewish baby you're probably pretty safe.

>>137870888
There's a difference between tolerating extremist speech and tolerating violence and seizures of power.

Plus the Hindenburg case is extremely isolated as Hindenburg basically became a dictator at that point (due to the unpopularity and inefficiency of the Reichstag) which gave him the power to appoint Chancellors, without any consent or democratic motives, such as Papen.

So no, I don't agree with this 'paradox'. It's made by stupid people for stupid people.

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>>137871359
Fucking Israeli's are the most based bantz, I swear

>>137902960
The older the religion the more seasoned the Bantz.

Usually, there's a lot of Acerbic unfunny Jews too no doubt.

>>137870888
Only counter required is the source
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/25998-the-so-called-paradox-of-freedom-is-the-argument-that-freedom

>>137874619
>But just like most Christians and Jews, most Muslims ignore or "reinterpret" that shit.

That's where you're wrong kiddo

>>137874619
Yeah, well unfortunately Antifa do not agree with you, and they're probably going to call you a nazi for thinking such a thing.

>>137903556
>https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/25998-the-so-called-paradox-of-freedom-is-the-argument-that-freedom
>In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be unwise. But we should claim the right to suppress them if necessary even by force; for it may easily turn out that they are not prepared to meet us on the level of rational argument, but begin by denouncing all argument; they may forbid their followers to listen to rational argument, because it is deceptive, and teach them to answer arguments by the use of their fists or pistols.
Oh look at how the context changed, it's like... Popper is talking about commies and antifa.

>>137871359
This.

>>137871359

You are truly our greatest ally.

>>137870888
The biggest problem with this view is that their concept of "intolerance" just expands and expands to encompass pretty much everything eventually. It starts out with intolerance being "advocating for genocide" but eventually we learn that you are intolerant if you are straight and don't want to fuck a transsexual.

Progressive leaders keep adding on new things you have to be tolerant of because that's how you get into a leadership position, you have to pretend to be more pure and virtuous than everyone else even the previous leader and you have to come up with more and more new rules for everyone to follow so they can feel better about themselves.

Refusing to bake a cake for gay wedding is intolerance. Refusing to use weird pronouns for LGBTPQQ++ is intolerance.

SOONER THAN YOU THINK, it will be "Intolerant" to judge pedophiles.

You have no idea how far they will push this intolerance meme. If Popper could see the shit they are going to abuse his words for then he would take back his words.

>>137874619
>but as long as they aren't marching in a park calling for violence against gays,

One of them shot 49 people in one night last year.

I guess you forgot about that.

>>137872920
>Because Nazis as a group of people aren't the problem, Nazi terrorists are.
wew lad it's almost as if it's the same exact fucking thing you autistic retard

>>137871359
Good stuff, just needs another edit version with communism.

>>137872920

As someone who knows a muslim, they are told that they ARE allowed to kill non believers, and that they ARE supposed to spread the religion far and wide, and to have many children. Doesn't mean they do, but they're totally allowed to by their religion.

>>137870888
You know George Soros studied with Karl Popper, right?

Universally tolerant. This is where this theory collapses. This is an impossible position to take.

>>137871359
So it's a Tesseract of tolerance with the Leftards? A Hyper-tolerance.

>>137871359
>>137871359
>>137871359
>>137871359
>>137871359

Change it to Islam instead of Nazi then it's ok.

So being tolerant will always result in the violent death of tolerance...

hmm, it's almost as if tolerance can't exist?

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>>137871963
You make too much sense.

Why do they suck muslim dicks so hard if they actually think they shouldn't tolerate intolerant people?

They clearly just hate white people

>>137870888
So basically, 2 sides at war. Nazis were intolerant of untermensch just how untermensch is intolerant of nazis. With the difference being untermensch likes to provoke and act like saints, while nazis are honest about what they are.

>>137870888
I would counter it with some basic logic and then call the person that used such a childish argument a fucking faggot. Dig: if intolerance is bad then it is bad if you use it to ostracize others with a different opinion than you because ostracizing someone for their differences is bad, ask a faggot or a kike or a fat chick.

Popper always argued for the maximum possible tolerance and he said that people must try in all their power to meet others on the level of rational argument.
Popper's tolerance ends when people begin calling for murder or persecution of others.
He says in the last analysis we must be prepared to restrain by force people who: 'begin by denouncing all argument; they may forbid their followers to listen to rational argument, because it is deceptive, and teach them to answer arguments by the use of their fists or pistols'.

>>137870888

this doesn't explain why they tolerate Islam

>>137870888
intolerance is the key word here, what matters is what is tolerable or not, not if someone is 'intolerant', only in a 1984 scenario it would be relevant.
Btw Popper was a jew who cares what he thinks of nazis.

>>137870888
>we dont want to lose our political power so we are intolerant towards whoever threatens it.
>we are totally not hypocrites btw

if you dont believe something, then stop pretending to.
just like everyone who says they are against hate while spewing hate.

>>137871359
FUCKING BASED

>>137871185
FPBP

>>137870888
Intolerance is literally killing people.

Tolerance is letting people say whatever they want to say.

Guys, fuck Tolerance anyway. The word is ACCEPTANCE. try to accept Things, if u can't change them.
Tolerance: Neighbour listens to loud music, you're pissed off, but you're too pussy to tell him.
Acceptance: You're totally fine with your neighbours noises.. if not, you'll tell him :D

(typical for based Swissmen, maybe...)

>>137914292
no, if u tolerate someone who wants to kill you, tolerance is deadly, too!

>>137894363
underrated

>>137870888
Tolerance is a bad thing.

>>137871359
GREATEST
ALLY