Un-ironic Left-Communist

What kind of booze do you usually drink
>inb4 goonsack

How can you believe in equality when niggers are scientifically proven to be dumber and more violent?

>>137848546
Opinion on Stalin?

>>137848546
Do you believe blacks have a lower IQ then whites?

>>137848546
Do you expect a janitor to receive the same wage as a doctor?

>>137848583
i dont drink

>>137848609
i beleive in social equality not denying existing biological Facts

>>137848619
he was a better choice then Trotsky but at that point the S.U had more or less become a doomed project t b h

>>137848631
of course

>>137848669
no

>>137848546
no. ur not special

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>>137848546
Why isn't there any real non-cgi/fisheye lens pictures of earth?

>>137848977
dont know t b h

>>137848977
why is usa so fucking big in 2012?

>>137848546
Should the revolution be peaceful or violent?

>>137848546
In under 140 characters, why communism?

>>137848774
>i dont drink
gaycunt

Did you meet your friends in the bread line this morning?

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>>137849357
Yes breadlines would never happen under capitalism

>>137848609
You're ignoring that there is no social equality. It just doesn't happen naturally. This is the flaw of communism.

>>137848546

What will happen after the upper class falls? Surely a new power has to fill the void, right?
Where do you see yourself at the start of the """communist utopia"""?

Also ass or tits?

>>137848546
do you pretend you've read das capital, how do you reconcile the fact that communist is a shit ideology and that a dictatorship of the proletariat wouldn't dissolve the state, but would likely just result in a shittier one. why do you trust the state, why do you trust authority?

>>137848774
>Stalin was a better then Trotsky
a commie and a tankie

End your life now for social equality

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>>137849499
>FDR was capitalism
you do know there were price controls, gold siezure, and over 100% d2gdp in those times? anticapitalism was thought to cure recessions
and we still have recessions no matter the system, imagine that

>>137848546
What is your view on race?
If different races are different, should they all be equal?
Marx said "from each according to his ability to each according to his needs" can that statement be unified with multiculturalism? And wouldn't such a unification be automatically "racist" since eg. blacks should for the most part do manual labor since they are dumber then Whites?

>>137848977
You have to get a huge orbit to get a good view of the entire earth. You need to be like half way to the moon at least and that takes a lot of fuel and energy to do just for a video of the earth spinning around.

>>137848774
>No
Then you arn't a communist.

>>137849682
>FDR caused the Depression
>not the ancap-lite world of the stock market
WEW

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>>137848546
What makes you think you can suppress Hispanic/nigger/Indonesian nationalism if your commie shit goes global?

All you commies seem to do is go rabid over white nationalism, and help usher-in more foreign niggers to vote for your parties. Meanwhile, the same niggers are expanding their own ethnocentrism, and having officially protected by the state.

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>>137848546
If you know there's objective inequality, why do you want people to be treated the same? If a worse man is able to artificially be in the same place as a better man, he will have a better chance at breeding with a better woman. Surely you can understand that this would result in degradation of the quality of people.
>>137849525
Lefties are more environmentally conscious, and I think that's to their credit but they really can't deal with the more "savage" parts of nature like tribalism/ethnocentrism or hierarchy.

>>137848546
Un-ironically kys.

How many hours do you have to spend dialating your vagina every day so it doesn't heal?
How many christians do you have ro kill to get enough blood for your passover meal?
When did you realise that you wanted to dedicate the rest of your life to being a collosal faggot?

>>137849303
depends
if massive popular support for a revolution is in place and the leaders of the current admin step down or flee then thats great obviously
but then there is situations like russia and German in weimar times when the current admin will fight back n matte what in that case the people should fight back rather then be slaughtered
so like i said "depends"

>>137849329
all ive got to do to get the point across is to ask u to look around capitalism ESPECIALLY the neo-liberal kind we live under A T M has more or less fucked the entire planet its fucked countries its fucked people its fucked culture
nothing is sacred at this point its just all barcodes and price tags

>>137849682
he was capitalist
social-democ is just "nicer" capitalism

>>137849689
see.....
>>137848774
but basically people should be treated equally but just ignoring that on average african countries are fucked cuz of poor inherited iq and the education to remed it is sill

>>137849849
>All you commies seem to do is go rabid over white nationalism, and help usher-in more foreign niggers to vote for your parties. Meanwhile, the same niggers are expanding their own ethnocentrism, and having officially protected by the state.
almost no immigrants vote communist
and hispanic and black countries can be communist to no need to just displace the entire planet

>>137849886
>Lefties are more environmentally conscious

This may be true, yet they tend to flood white nations with 3rd-world savage retards who have no respect for the environment. Just look at a Brazilian favela's level of pollution.

>>137850027
>almost no immigrants vote communist
Made me laff.

>>137848774
Fucking idiot tankies.

I hate commies but Trotsky could have saved millions from the purges and tyranny of Stalinism.

ok lets look at favorite of /pol/ sweden
has a communist group had a spike in votes now that all these immigrants came in?
no the immigrant just like the rest of the working class get conned into voting for "soc"-dems

>>137850306
>>137850121

>>137850027

>>>137849689 (You)
>see.....
>>>137848774
>but basically people should be treated equally but just ignoring that on average african countries are fucked cuz of poor inherited iq and the education to remed it is sill

I have seen that, but you didn't answer my question. Do you disagree with Marx about "each according to his ability" and if you don't how does that mix with racism, since blacks and whites have largely different abilities?
In other words, will most blacks do the manual labor, that the smarter whites are less suited for?

>>137848546
Why do you hate freedom?

>>137850367
>In other words, will most blacks do the manual labor, that the smarter whites are less suited for?
fair point
since a communist nation dosent believe in putting one race first it could end up like that t b h
the less educated less intelligent blacks AND whites do easier jobs while more intelligent people do the more intellectual demanding jobs

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>>137849989
Communism wouldn't have happened without (((Judaeo)))-Christian values. Communism was the triumph of Jewish interests but Christianity was the infiltration of Europe with a Jewish worldview.
>>137850121
Yeah, I was just trying to illustrate a point about how a lot of people on the left break nature up into "good" and "evil" parts rather than seeing it for what it is. A lot of people on the right seem to have a kind of intuitive understanding of the competitive aspects, but fail to care about the preservation of the environment, and I think counterbalancing that is a good thing about lefties. Notice that OP skipped over my question though.

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>>137848546
Why do you support a flawed system that has utterly failed in every attempt to implement it?
>inb4 muh real communism
If so, I assume that your real communism would be a stateless communism right? So, it would be anarcho-communism. Getting past the fact that a stateless society is the most retarded thing imaginable, the idea of anarcho-communism/leftism is literally impossible to the point of being an oxymoron.
>pic related
Anarcho-communism cannot exist beyond a few hundred smelly hippies in the woods. Beyond that, communism must be enforced due to the fact that not everyone will agree 100% of the time. Communism fundamentally goes against human nature so if you want a communist society, it has to be enforced. This requires a state at some point. A state authoritarian enough to literally police the minds of its populace. Thus, the communist states that have existed are the closest things to "real" communism that will ever exist. We all know how those communist societies have gone. They've been complete shit holes with famine, genocide, and poverty. Communism is a pipe dream.

>>137850799
>Thus, the communist states that have existed are the closest things to "real" communism that will ever exist. We all know how those communist societies have gone. They've been complete shit holes with famine, genocide, and poverty. Communism is a pipe dream.
the communist states that existed such as the S.U maoist china etc despite disagreement i hve with the theory behind them improved the lives of the people living in them drastically

i dont reject the S.U i build on it seeing what the S.U got wrong and work out a more efficient model of socialism

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>>137851063
>improved the lives of the people living in them drastically
say that to the 100 million dead people.

>>137851368
>china and U.S.S.r
famines
same thing could have happened at all times in imperial russia and china
>NK
NK dosent claim to be communist
>cambodia
one acronym
C.I.A
>ethiopia
african shithole
>afgan
mid east shithole
>vietnam
war deaths and purges

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>>137851063
Aside from the mass genocide and famine perpetrated by communists, it objectively does not improve anyone's life. Over time they stagnate terribly and fail. Living in a police state turned failed state is not a good thing. Again, look at all the communist states that have existed. Talk to anyone who lived in those states before they fell. Talk to some slavs who lived through the collapse of the Eastern Block. The only possible thing that they had going for them is that they had nearly full employment. Aside from that, you lived in fear of your life, because, like I said, a communist state relies on authoritarian enforcement of its ideals. Simply speaking your mind is deadly. Why would anyone want to live like that?

>>137851838
the important word in that info-graphic is "famine"

>>137849689
Marx also said immigration invariably weakened the working class' power.

>>137852108
this

>>137848546
As a dialectical materialist, do you accept the material reality of racial differences, specifically different average distributions of IQ among different human populations? And are you willing to incorporate this into a fuller pictures of the material causes of economic relations?

Do you accept the "Socialism with Chinese Characteristics" theoretical model that places Communism in the indeterminate future, AFTER capitalism exhausts its creative capacity that in the short to medium term positively altering the material conditions of Mankind, pushing us to potentially economically-transcendent post-scarcity material conditions?

Do you accept that market economies, allowed a natural pricing mechanism, must be controlled by Peoples Party democracies to mitigate the atomizing and socially destructive effects of capitalism, while retaining the benefits?

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>>137851753
>China and USSR
Those famines happened directly because of their collectivist policies. The USSR even did it on purpose to Ukrainian Kulaks.
>Muh real communism
They clearly are a leftist and collectivist dictatorship.
>Cambodia
What is the Khmer Rouge?
>ethiopia
nonetheless, those deaths were caused by communists for the sole purpose of advancing their agendas.
>Afghan
see above.
>Vietnam
One word. PURGES. Purges were the main causes of many of the other deaths above. That and slave like work camps. Don't try to pretend otherwise.

And no matter how you write it off, those deaths wouldnt have happened if it werent for communists and their supporters.

>>137851838
Every single economist agrees that indefinite economic growth is impossible. The "growth" you see from capitalism is due to population explosion and resource explotation. Everybody knows it end à la st Matthew's Island. We *want* economic stagnation. We want population stagnation. Stop making negros and focus on cultural and scientific growth.

>>137852241
>As a dialectical materialist, do you accept the material reality of racial differences, specifically different average distributions of IQ among different human populations? And are you willing to incorporate this into a fuller pictures of the material causes of economic relations?
yes
>Do you accept the "Socialism with Chinese Characteristics" theoretical model that places Communism in the indeterminate future, AFTER capitalism exhausts its creative capacity that in the short to medium term positively altering the material conditions of Mankind, pushing us to potentially economically-transcendent post-scarcity material conditions?
no im not a chinese socialist im a leftcom of the Luxembourgian variety

>>137852475
>>137852241
>Do you accept that market economies
no

>>137851966
They're famines caused by COLLECTIVIST POLICIES. Economically, communism fails utterly and those famines are evidence of that.

>>137852410
>What is the Khmer Rouge?
the ones which would never have been in power without the C.I.A as i said? the ones who were propped up at the hands of the U.S.A to to be a thorn in socialist vietnams side?
>One word. PURGES. Purges were the main causes of many of the other deaths above. That and slave like work camps. Don't try to pretend otherwise
i see no issue with removing people who act against the peoples interest ESPECIALLY the collaborators in S.V

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>>137852509
Stay the fuck in your 白左 containment zone then, you paleo-Marxist fundie. Good luck.

>>137852514
nope famines with similar death tools have occurred all throughout history and....well at least SOME where caused at the hands of capitalist
search up the "bengal famine"

it seems like a shock but stalin and mao didnt just march up to the clouds and tell them to stop raining

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>>137852786
>the ones which would never have been in power without the C.I.A as i said? the ones who were propped up at the hands of the U.S.A to to be a thorn in socialist vietnams side?
>MUH CIA

Friendly reminder that North Vietnam supported the Khmer Rouge both before and after they overthrew the Cambodian government, and it was only when the Khmer Rouge started fucking with the border that Vietnam became hostile to the regime

And also that the ChiComs supported the Khmer as a counterbalance to Communist Vietnam

>>137852514
If I wasn't on a phone, I'd try to prove that the keynesian economics in place since the 50s (the ones you praise) are directly and solely responsible for the negro population explosion, mass migration, and the ethical squalor of generation millennial. The africanisation of Europe, and the cockroach nest of suffering that is Africa and friends.
Would the alternative be worse? The fuck knows. Not you with your " 20mill dead" infographies.

>>137853021
so just because china also propped them up it makes the C.I.As actions including the bombing of cambodia less bad?

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>>137852786
>I see no issue with mass murdering innocent people who dont want to be oppressed by a tyrannical state pushing some shitty ideology that is destined to stagnate and fail.
Why? Are you fucked in the head? Are you LARPing? Are you just trying to be edgy? It's absolutely disgusting.

>>137853110
I'm pointing out that Vietnam bears at least part of the blame for Khmer Rouge atrocities given their support for the group.

It's only fair if you're condemning the CIA for their pragmatic support for the regime

>>137853163
>I see no issue with mass murdering innocent people
i was talking about the political class if it intends to keep disrupting the new political system

>>137848546
What made you come to the conclusion that communism is the best societal model and what would you have to gain from living in a communist state?

>>137853327
well the lives of me the people around me would benefit from it

thats all the time i have today anyhow goodbye

>>137853070
Im not praising Keynesian economic. I do not approve of them. You're obviously a NaziBol and I can agree with you on a lot of that, but you're even further left economics aren't going to solve those problems. A stagnate and poor economy where people are starving isn't going to support and produce the magical innovations that you want by "focusing on cultural and scientific growth."
>Would the alternative be worse?
You mean your alternative. There are other alternatives that can be found without going full commie. You need more nazi and less bol. I can point to examples of full fledged communist countries utterly failing. So yes, your alternative would be worse. It wouldn't help.

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>>137853326
Do you really think that the millions Stalin purged were only politicians?

>>137848546
Why don't you get a job

>>137853422
They literally wouldn't though. All of your wealth in your 1st world country would go to shit and be pissed down the drain by shitty collectivist economic policies. Even if you're the lowest of the low in your country, you can still make yourself something. Stop being a nigger and waiting for government handouts to solve your problems. I'm on my way to doing that now even. I have nothing but I've bettered myself and am on the right track to earn something. You sound lazy. You sound like you just want the world to change to your benefit without having to do anything and put in any effort.