What do we do about the national SOCIALIST problem on /pol/?

>>137833184
Eat rat poison

Nazis aren't socialist. Please read a book.

>>137833395
National Socialists aren't socialists?

>>137833395
Go away faggot this argument doesn't concern you.

>>137833602
The Democratic Republic of North Korea isn't a democratic republic?

That's you. That's how stupid you sound.
>>137833650
I'm telling you that Nazis are die-hard capitalists and are on the same side as you.

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>>137833184

>>137833801
You sound like a fucking retard. I'm a natsoc and we're fucking socialists. We taxed German industries outrageously, like 40% of their income before expenses. You're insane, retard.

Nazis have always hated us, they're just appropriating and exploiting our free speech absolutism to the detriment of the libertarian cause. Don't think for a minute the moment they really take over they won't turn into the gun-grabbing wealth-seizing censorship-loving stalinist totalitarians they've always been.

We have to purge them in a way that is consistent with our own principles.

>>137833801
If you admit they're on the same side, then you admit this has nothing to do with you and you need to fuck off and kys.

>>137833801
Quote from 1930s German industrialist:
"These damn nazis, all they care about is redistributing wealth"
>still not socialist
K

>>137834189
This is like a Jew saying "As a white man, fuck white people"
Fuck off.

>>137833801
>I'm telling you that Nazis are die-hard capitalists and are on the same side as you.
>marxist can't in2 hegelian dialectics
Fucking pottery

>>137833184
there's literally nothing wrong with socialism

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>>137833395
>Nazis aren't socialist.
LOL

>>137834189
Taxes aren't socialism.

Nazi Germany systematically reprivatized huge sectors of their economy.
>>137834250
The point is that this thread is pointless because Nazis aren't your enemy.
>>137834308
Yes, I'm sure Henry Ford was a raging socialist and was very much looking forward to redistributing his own wealth. That's why he loved the Nazis so much, of course.

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>>137834250
this plus white nationalism with a rejection of racism, anti-semitism, neo-nazism, fascism and white supremacy. Exclusively a pro-white movement, not anti-anyone else

>>137833801
Wow, you're actually retarded. Please read a book.

>>137834250
>gun grabbing
No. A white citizenry should be armed, although for obvious reasons there would be ideological screening to prevent leftists from doing anything against whites.
>wealth-seizing
Only kikes and shabbos goyim. Land appropriations in the formation of an ethostate. But not redistributism.
>censorship-loving
Not so much censorship. But any activities resulting from speech against the white race, or in the case of conflict, commies would be shut down.
>Stalinist
no
>totalitarians
no

I'm getting so fucking sick of you /leftypol/ faggots swarming in here and trying to get the two core ideologies of the board to hate each other. I wouldn't be surprised if some alphabet agencies were in on it, too.

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Just gonna drop this here because of all the political illiterates.

Hopefully will end this inane conversation.

>>137834694
>pro white
>rejection of racism
???????????

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>>137833395
>thinking marxian socialism is true socialism
lol, fucking commies coopted the name
Wagner called himself a socialist before Das kapital was even written

>>137834809
Based gommie

National Conservatism?

>>137834809
>socialism
>starving the people
pick one, commie scum

>>137834960
Have you literally never heard of Proudhon or something?

Socialism has always been anti-property.

dumb picture, faggot op. the person who made that pic has no fucking idea

>>137834809
Read your sources, NatSoc is true socialism. Not your gay hippie sharing shit.

>>137834809
>he actually thinks hitler wasn't a socialist

Oh wow, good lord you commies are retarded.

>>137835505
it's not even gay hippie sharing, that's only the discourse
it's actually violent confiscation

>>137833395
For once I agree with the commie

Stormfronters:

Too socially inept for /pol/
GG

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>>137834809
fuck off you dirty commie. the nazis were socialists, just not the faggy hipppy kind of marxists you lefties have become

>>137834714
>we're not gun grabbers, but we're gun grabbers!
>we're not wealth-confiscators, but we're wealth-confiscators!
>we're not censors, but we're censors!

I'm not /leftypol/, I'm a libertarian who is legitimately pissed that support for free speech is at an all time low.

The deranged subversives in media aren't helping, the shills running the daily stormer aren't helping, and I'm sure you're right that the deep state would love to divide the alt-right.

Here's the deal.

Stop making free speech unpopular, take care of the shills running the natsoc side, and this civil war ends now.

>>137836012
>still larping as ancap
we can see right through you and your reddit spacing you lefty faggot

>>137833801
>I'm telling you that Nazis are die-hard capitalists and are on the same side as you.

this has gotta be fucking b8. Here is your (you).

>>137836012
The civil war's going to happen anyway, but, the SIEG HEILING idiots will need to be... taken care of... so they aren't a liability for the good guys that they've been trying so hard to get in with.

Of course I mean "taken care of" in the most kind and peaceful way possible, like they can go back to Stormfront or something and leave socially normal people alone.

>>137836012
do you even Hoppe?
based Hoppe would do all that and label it "physical removal"

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>>137833184

>>137836294
The people who are NatSoc in public are mentally unstable and have nothing to lose. I'm NatSoc, but not stupid enough to scare off the normies by labeling my beliefs in the one way that is guaranteed to scare them off.

>>137833184
let them go to civil war with commies?

>>137833395
collectivism, cracking down on individual liberties and property rights, centralized planning... obviously an extreme right wing ideology, duh! Just like Ron Paul.

>>137836294
Also: Hitler confiscated guns, which is a common program for fascists around the world.

So when the civil war starts, we should probably go ahead and confiscate the weapons of white nationalists, nazis, etc. It's for their own good, of course. As is the entirely justified and necessary violence that will be needed to pry the weapons from them. Just try not to damage the weapons too badly while removing them from the nazis. (Unless they're shitty AKs. No helping that.)

>>137836517
>let them go to civil war with commies?
I am very sorry but that's not in the cards. The reality is that everyone is going to be the loser in what's coming, so we just have to adjust and make the most of it. The Nazis are already causing serious problems so we may eventually have to get more pro-active in removing them from the battlefield.

>>137833801
>“If we are socialists, then we must definitely be anti-semites – and the opposite, in that case, is Materialism and Mammonism, which we seek to oppose.” “How, as a socialist, can you not be an anti-semite?”

>We must “find and travel the road from individualism to socialism without revolution”

>“Why need we trouble to socialize banks and factories? We socialize human beings.”

>“We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions”

>“What Marxism, Leninism and Stalinism failed to accomplish we shall be in a position to achieve.”


Hitler sure sounds like a Socialist to me.

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>>137836753
>“How, as a socialist, can you not be an anti-semite?”
Well...

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>>137835893
>>137836294
>>137836556
poor shilling attempt

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White nationalists aren't the problem, they are the solution.

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>>137836140
Just for (You)

>>137837175
then i guess you're just a faggot

>>137837175
Checks out, look at the anti-semitic book in the upper right.

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>>137837175
>legends of the ferengi

>>137833184
You could try doing something different.
Like actually having an argument that has any merit.

Collectivism is a scourge upon humanity, and we must distance ourselves from the buffoons who feel so emboldened as to make anti-semitic chants in broad daylight. We must also make clear to the public that they cannot use the logic of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" to de-villify Antifa and their ilk. The public should be educated that no matter which socialist group is protesting, they are our enemy. BETTER DEAD THAN RED.

>>137835777
of course the nazi proves me wrong.

nice 7's

>>137838175
lol thanks
I hadn't noticed them

>>137838032
>The public should be educated that no matter which socialist group is protesting, they are our enemy. BETTER DEAD THAN RED.
Well, the hitler-leaning collectivists are doing a GREAT job of making the public hate their guts, so, that's actually progress on one side. The media is covering for the commie side, but people who are exposed to their real nature are fucking horrified by them, so, we need to go around the media and keep working that angle.

The real shills are the faggots who go on TV and say "WE'RE FUCKING NAZIS AND WE LOVE DONALD TRUMP :DDDDD PS: KILL NIGGERS"

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>>137834694
> Implying that Judaism doesn't imply the concept of a religious race + nepotism
> Implying that your mindless relativism will endure.
At least you can convert to Islam. With Judaism you literately have to fuck a Jewess and it's only your kids.

>>137834189
>We
>A fucking leaf
O I am laffin

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im just here for the memes

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>>137839681
Aye, let me help you with that.

>you are either a capitalist or a socialist
t. babby's first encounter with syncretic politics
they were anti-capitalist and anti-marxist.

>>137838226
You are me but you made noone take us seriously because you hate roads.

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>>137841187
>muh roads argument
The government you envision cannot exist in reality.
Libertarians and Minarchists are the reason why libertarianism is the laughing stock of the political sphere, above communists but below the Big Two.

>>137841429
Rome had small prefectural administrations that took care of fires, safety and infrastructure maintenance. Anyway I'm not about to argue with you obsessed fucks when there's commies alive.

>>137842005
https://mises.org/library/roman-law-laissez-faire-statism
Ancient Rome, in the beginning, yes.
But eventually, the evil crept in under the rug.
Which is why it cannot exist in reality, because no matter how much good you want to do, there will always be the next guy in line who will stab you to death in your bed to hold power.

>>137842005
>>137842302
However, yes, I don't like to argue with someone so ideologically similar.
We have enemies, let's focus on them.

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>>137833395
>national socialists aren't marxist
FTFY you illiterate fuck.

>>137833602
Not left-socialists, there used to be more than one kind before the war, but the Left won the war, so now there's just one kind of socialist all the bluepilled lemmings learn about.

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>>137836412

>>137835350

>

t. uneducated retard that never read Spengler

kys immediately

>>137844077
>S-s-s-stop trying to divide and conquer, we love our libertarian brothers!
Thanks fash, love you too.

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>>137844445
>implying bants isn't love
You sound a little bit too lebbit, friendo.

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I recently saved the perfect pic for this
What do we do about the (((individualist))) problem brahs?

>>137844111

Trips demand your death, nigger

>>137835350
>>137835350
>>137835350

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>>137844888

Convince them that proclaiming themselves on political Left is not only more accurate and honest, but also would be extremely fun to watch all the progressive's reaction when Nazi's try to side with them.
Show that there may be incentive for their cause as well if they take the Left approach, aside from trolling progressives.

>>137845016

Underage get off this board

>>137844928
>derailing the thread with your fucking digits
Not any better, Trennen.

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>>137844077
Let the bantz continue

>>137845113

>implying retarded ancap lolbert keep status quo and exterminate the Europeans threads dont deserve to be derailed

wrong

>>137844796
Maybe I'm just being autistic. Here's my issue. Stop making free speech unpopular and poisoning the well for not just Libertarians but Trump also. Literally only shills do this and you need to remove them.

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>>137845308
I mostly don't disagree with you, but digits are a waste of derailment.
Be constructive!

>>137834250
I like AnCaps though.
My ideal form of government would be a two party system with Libertarians and National Socialists taking turns.
You'd have NatSoc using socialist programs to benefit the nation, and you would have AnCaps/Libertarians come in and repeal those social programs if they aren't working.
The thing about AnCaps is that you have no future whatsoever unless the ''far right'' wins. We are the only ones willing to listen and argue with Libertarians, for the rest of the world you're just ''dumb rednecks''.

Libertarians are great, I just don't think the free market is going to deport niggers and put jews in ovens.

>>137845380

But you have your second amendment and believe in it, dont you? So what do you have to fear? :)

>stop making free speech unpopular by making use of it

the absolute state of lolberts

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>>137833395
>>137833801
>>137834661
>>137834809
On the off chance you haven't abandoned thread out of sheer embarrassment, I just want you to know you are legitimately one of the stupidest people I've ever come across. I know that comes with the territory of being a commie, but you supersede that and went straight into full on, next level retardation with your posts here.

I'm not sure if congratulations are in order or if I should be fuming that people this defective are allowed to exist in civilized society instead of killed as soon as your unique brand of denseness is showcased. I'm going to sit on this and stew about it until I fall asleep. I'm going to ruminate on it further on my morning commute to work.

You mother fucker.

>>137845527
An ancap would never go with a government, that's kind of the whole idea.
We just wait until your retarded system collapses (not yours in particular, any system really) and make things alright again.
However, I really like the idea of the authoritarian and libertarian right joining up. The differences between us can be set aside to deal with the rise of socialism in the world, and I'm all for it.

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>>137833395
>Nazis aren't socialist.

"To be a socialist is to submit the I to the thou; socialism is sacrificing the individual to the whole." -- Joseph Goebbels, Minister of Propaganda, National Socialist German Workers' ("Nazi") Party

>>137845747
I always try to post sources on quotes, because it's very easy to make shit up.

Source:
>Escape from Freedom by Erich Fromm (1941) p. 223

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>>137833395

"...we understand only the individual's capacity to make sacrifices for the community, for his fellow men." -- Adolf Hitler, 10-7-33

"The unity of a nation's spirit and will are worth far more than the freedom of the spirit and will of an individual; and that the higher interests involved in the life of the whole must here set the limits and lay down the duties of the interests of the individual." -- Adolph Hitler

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>>137833184
day of the snek

>>137845835
http://freedomkeys.com/collectivism.htm

>>137845677

>We just wait until your retarded system collapses (not yours in particular, any system really) and make things alright again.

how do you do that when this system is decimating the population capable of such things so much till it collapses that just a couple of them are left and will be overrun by the nigger hordes?

>>137845942
When a government collapses, which it inevitably does, the citizenry is left in a void. That void can go one of two ways, for the most part: Fascism or Ancapism.
So no matter what, we're going to have troubles ahead. Would you not rather manufacture boots than to lick them?

>>137846198

Are you licking the boot of nature when you realize that you must bow to the urge of hydrating your body with water after some time?

>>137845677
>An ancap would never go with a government
Why wouldn't an AnCap do anything in their power to reach their goal? It's like being against voting, and then not voting when there is a vote on whether or not voting should be abolished.
People get so blinded by their principles and semantics they can't think pragmatically.
You're never going to achieve anything if you just stubbornly refuse to make change to the government that would allow you to get closer to the abolishment of the state.

When the US government eventually collapses, no one is going to go ''oh, let's just be Anarcho Capitalists'', no one knows who the fuck you people even are. You need a strong Libertarian movement to reform the government and prove their arguments right before anyone is even going to consider Anarcho Capitalism.

>>137845527
>We are the only ones willing to listen and argue with Libertarians
And we likewise are the only ones who tolerate you. The problem is that this relationship is beginning to no longer serve us. You were always nothing more than a simple stage prop to prove our devotion to freedom of speech.

>>137845540
>stop making free speech unpopular by making use of it
NatSoc's disingenuous embrace of free speech has turned our beliefs into white supremacist dog-whistles.

>>137846292
Someone's boot needs a tongue lashing, unfortunately. You can have it be your fellow man, the planet you stand on, or the vice that kills you. Sometimes a combination.
The difference between kneeling at the feet of nature, is even the authoritarian you pray to follows the same laws.

>>137846390
Don't be tsundare. Admit that you just don't like kikes and niggers because they fuck up your ideology.

>>137846390
>NatSoc's disingenuous embrace of free speech has turned our beliefs into white supremacist dog-whistles.

That is what you should want though. We will force you to either side with communists or us who want to save Europeans and respect private property.

>>137846493

No, nature is authoritarian. You MUST breathe, you MUST eat, you MUST drink. Or you die. Those are constraits you bow to every day. And do be able to do that you must struggle. A farmer needs to go out there every fucking day and and wrest the food from the very earth we are standing on. Why do you want to deny nature?

wwait...no roads in ancap?

ITT: /pol/ doesn't realise what Nazi is short for.

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>>137846330
>People get so blinded by their principles and semantics they can't think pragmatically.
That is an excellent point, actually.
People only have a certain mental capacity, and often it is ideology that strengthens the dike between logic and incoherency. Unfortunately, idelogy is like a sponge, it merely soaks up part of the torrential stupidity, leaving the rest to flood the gates.
Anarcho capitalists, by the very definition of the ideology, don't believe in the necessity of a government. So we could, theoretically, do as you said, and form a sort of coalition government. I suppose I'd need to think more on it to come to any definitive conclusion. At least you've given me something to use my LSD for.
>When the US government eventually collapses, no one is going to go ''oh, let's just be Anarcho Capitalists'', no one knows who the fuck you people even are.
This, however, is where I can say with any reasonable certainty that you're wrong. Ancapism is the basic economics of human nature, applied to society. That entails barter (including privatized currency), and base human freedoms. You don't get rights, rights imply the right to something. You get freedoms, which free you from something. There are more, but it's 3 am, and I'm not in the right state of mind to write out the Ancap manifesto.

>>137846751
That's what I said. You can choose an authoritarian (human), and be two steps below nature, or you can be on an equal opportunity field with the rest of us, beholden only to nature and mutual agreement.

>>137846981
>pic related

>>137836517
>let them go to civil war with commies?

If the Commies want to start a Civil War us Libertarians need to discuss helping the Fascists to totally crush them, but at the same time position ourselves to they dont take over after.

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>>137833949
If you actually agreed to those terms and conditions, then you're a fucking idiot and you deserve it.
If you didn't, then it is, by definition "evil government".

>>137846330
>>137847378
I forgot to finish my second point, sorry.
We don't need people to be aware of the movement, because in the absence of government, you have ancapism. It's the base state. Problems arise when you implement statist doctrines, like the ancoms or whatever.
Currently, we live in crony capitalism. Imagine what could be of the world if it weren't a farce?

>>137847378

Humans are not equal though.

>>137847378
lel

>>137847581
In opportunity, yes.
This is one of the main differences between authoritarianism (of any flavor or degree) and libertarianism, is the level of "equality".
You don't get equality of equity (socialism).
You have the equality of opportunity (competition)

>>137834603
>Tragedy of the Commons
>Economic Calculation Problem
>Tyranny of the majority
>Constant conflict-of-interest to all those with political power

What could possibly go wrong?

>>137847579
i still dont get why roads wouldnt happen out of necessity eventually

>>137847808

No you don't. A cripple or a retard has not the same opportunities as an able bodied person. And this is determined by nature.

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>>137847859
This point has been argued and refuted so many times, at this point it's just a meme used to trigger ancaps.
Here's the most simple, generalized answer there is:
Roads would be privately contracted by the person who owns the land.
If you want more detail, you'd have to Google it, because I'm fading fast after a long day.

>>137847378
>Ancapism is the basic economics of human nature
I agree with that completely. I know what Anarcho Capitalism is, it's the correct idea that if you had no government we would simply defend our property and trade our property, it would be pure capitalism.
The problem is that it wouldn't last. Unless people are already on board in AnCap ideas they are simply going to look for ways to replace the government.
When Roman Empire collapsed they didn't simply become Anarcho Capitalists. They formed countries.
You should lay off that LSD.

>>137834189
>we
>larping this hard

I advocate NatSoc but you're on some next level kiddie shit right there bud

>>137847878
They do very much have the same opportunity.
But they get outcompeted by the fit.
Natural selection, also a very integral part of nature.

>>137847975

What exactly hinders the Koch brothers from instating a regime through bribery and a private army and tactical nukes?

>>137847975
quick rundown accepted

>>137848077

How is this different from NatSoc

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>>137833184
it's not the same socialism as the bernie shit. if you don't believe jsut educate yourself on the well-documented history.... do it quick before they destroy the evidence... i noticed there was brainless push to conflate the bernie retard socialism with Germany's socialism

since it's clear you're clueless and way off base, look into the many obvious, open statements Hitler made about being anti-communist. It was a staple of his speeches.

The people on here who like Adolf are pretty well educated and say intelligent things left and right. Do you really believe you found a hole in their logic so easily?

Hail our beloved Adolf Hitler

>>137848183
The whole "using force" thing. Not really to our liking.

>>137848523

Yeah, I know. You love to stay inactive and do nothing while rambling about your AnCap utopia fantasies while your country turns into literally a third world shithole (yours already is)

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>>137848022
First time using it, actually. Been holding on to it for a week or two, just deciding when I should. 140μg. Any music suggestions?

The only issue I have with the Rome comparison is the fact that ancapism as a whole wasn't really well-developed (or developed at all) until the 19th century upwards, and even then wasn't very polished until the Mises/Rothbard types came along.
One could argue that the idea of a stateless society has been around for millennia, but the ideology has since been reformed quite a lot.
Your argument against its stability is similar to my complaint against fascism, ironically (part of why I'm all-for a teaming up). I don't think fascism would last, because it degrades into tyranny. But I'd rather get into that at a later date, I'm about done being awake, not much left in me.

>>137848125
The fact that if they don't own the land, I have the moral obligation to McNuke™ them right back, or form an army of my peers/neighbors and defend our territory from the invaders. It's nations at the scale of a household, think of it in that way

>>137848183
The fact that fascism entails total control over the market and production, where in Ancapistan the market is left entirely to its own devices.

>>137848628
Are you Germans working to make Germany Great Again? Merkel's gotta go.... she is grooming your women to have sex with sand niggers and regular niggers and it sounds like the men are too cucked to take the women back.

>>137834714
> there would be ideological screening
Did the NatSoc party of Germany not confiscate guns, irrespective of ideology?
Also, how does one conduct ideological screening without dire invasions of privacy and, by extension private property? Who determines who is left?

> any activities resulting from speech against the white race, or in the case of conflict
What if its true tho? Would NatSoc not consider the fact that kikes and chinks have higher IQs to be "hate speech"? Who determines what is conflict?

>>137848881
>Also, how does one conduct ideological screening without dire invasions of privacy
Not to mention the fact that I could just lie.
"Are you a Communist?"
"Nope, I love me some freedom fries"

>>137848798

>Merkel is the problem
>not a fundemental brainwashing program started in 1945 that created generation of self hating cucks
>the same does not happen in all western countries

lel, we wont get out of this without massive bloodshed that gives Europeans back their will to live.
First America needs to be busy with its civil war so we can attack certain groups without getting nuked.

>>137848756

So you are a multi billionaire?

>Banks and Companies would never manipulate a market in an AnCap society

topkek

>>137849062
>Banks and Companies would never manipulate a market in an AnCap society
The market adjusts for this. If people begin manipulating the market, consumers take their business elsewhere. Self regulation, like the rest of the ideology.
And don't say >muh monopolies< because unless a single entity can satiate the needs of 100% of the market, and there are zero alternatives (or if there are, they are not any better in any way), and 100% of the customers are happy with their choice, that's not gonna happen.

>>137848881

>Did the NatSoc party of Germany not confiscate guns, irrespective of ideology?

Gun laws in the Third Reich were more liberal than in all of Europe and some US states right now.

>muh gypsies, kikes and commies couldnt buy guns

Well, niggers couldnt purchase firearms in your country for like half of its existence. Yet you never considered it not a republic back then.

Really makes you think

>>137848756
Now you're just contradicting yourself.
You said that AnCapitalism is just the natural state of how things go when there is no government, and I agreed with you. I agree completely, if you have no government you just have Anarcho Capitalism.
Now you're saying that you need a developed ideology for AnCapitalism to work? Who the fuck cares about ''Mises/Rothbard types came along''
You said right here >>137847378 that ''Ancapism is the basic economics of human nature, applied to society''

You're also contradicting yourself on the original argument.
I said that you need to inform people of AnCap ideas because no one knows what the fuck you people are and what your ideas are, you disagreed saying that I was wrong.
Now you're talking about how Roman Empire didn't become AnCap because there wasn't enough information and ''ancapism as a whole wasn't really well-developed''.
Then you are completely agreeing with my original argument that people will not become AnCaps just because the government collapses. You yourself just confirmed that people need to know about the AnCap ideas.

>>137849210

No they dont. The average normie is dumb as shit and looks for guidance in his life. A herd to follow. Does not matter if it is a megacorp or a country.

He can be lucky if people like us lead him who are good willing and not seek to explout him.
AnCaps forget human nature, just as communists do.

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>>137849304

Good job

>>137846751
>We will force you to either side with communists or us
With friends like this...

>>137841429
Libertarians have been instrumental in getting the public to understand property rights. Before god emperor Ron, it was scarcely understood at all. Just because they aren't ideologically P U R E doesn't mean they're useless, come on.

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>>137840835
To add on my point, capitalism is globalist and internationalist in origin and in practice. Free trade unrestricted by statist borders is the ONLY way to operate. States don't even exist, or a military.
It runs contrary to the white ethno-state because it cannot allow state manipulation of free trade. If my company wants to employ spics from the third world, no statist borders are going to stop me as I displace whites in their homelands. It's all about profit and nothing more.

>>137848881
>Would NatSoc not consider the fact that kikes and chinks have higher IQs to be "hate speech"?
No. That is a fact. You can even say "I don't like whites" in public, but the second you try bring a shitskin into the country, is the second you eat a bullet.
>Who determines what is conflict?
The government. If a state of war exists, heavier restrictions on personal freedoms will necessarily be applied.
>>137848961
You don't interview them to find that out.

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>>137849514

Sometimes you need a good friend who pushes you in the right direction.
Thank us later.

>>137849062
What did happen in 1945? I was reading up recently about life in Germany after ww2 I found some interesting stuff - pretty much what I expected. Do you have some stellar material I can use as reference?

>massive bloodshed that gives Europeans

yep. better plan an efficient way to start killing because you'll need to strike quick (lol extermination efficiency and blitz; i'm having -euphoria- de ja vu). Anyways, proud Prussian here who immigrated to the USA ~100 years ago... we'll help in the fight

>>137849514
I think Hans lost something in translation. The point is that we have more in common with each other than with commies.

>>137849062
>First America needs to be busy with its civil war so we can attack certain groups without getting nuked.
This x100.

NatSocs, yuo are man now, you must choose.

Will you choose degenerate decadent libertarians?
Or will you choose glorious, stronk NazBol?

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>>137849651

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denazification

interestingly enough there is only a German wikipedia article about reeducation.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reeducation

Try to use google translator and see if it makes sense.

Nu-Germans have no real, genuine opinions. Allies carried out a plan to make us non-German, to eradicate our warrior class and so on. This country is just a big GDP generator.

I just hope that it starts when I am still young, this country is so empty, nothing great to live and strive for. Just the next vacation, the next TV, the next tinder date etc. This is how most Germans live.

>>137833184
Socialist - gibmonkeys
National Socialists -National gibmonkeys
Ancaps - gibmonkeys for first two decades of their lives who suddenly wants to keep their own shit

You are all a cancer.

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>>137849304
Just a heads up, sorry if I start contradicting myself, this is almost right at 30 hours since I last slept, so things really aren't worth much from here on out. I'm going to make one or two more posts if I get a reply, then I'm done. With that in mind, here we go:

Reading back on what I said, it appears I fucked up pretty good. May I have a redo? In the event you say yes (I lied, I'm going to bed after this), here it is. Same beginning, different premise, better (and actual) facts.

The only issue I have with the Rome comparison, is that Rome didn't go governmentless. Through their civil wars, foreign invaders, and the assassination of Severus Alexander, Rome was divided and "conquered" (either literally or politically) from 250 AD to it's complete demise. They never really had an ancap period, as far as I'm aware.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_of_the_Third_Century
https://mises.org/library/boom-and-depression-ancient-rome
https://mises.org/library/military-decadence-ancient-rome

Again,s orry about that. No matter how I spin it, I'm not really liking the outcome now, so I'm off to bed. It's difficult enough staying awake, let alone talking history and politics with any success.
Thanks for the awesome talks, gents. I hope you took away something, as I have. Even if it's "anon is a fucking retard".

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>>137850194
Alright, I'm out now. If you reply, I'll read in the afternoon, when I get out of bed.
Thanks again for the fantastic discussion.

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>>137849752

I think we will see it within the next decade.
Especially when Trump loses to a vengecul democract candidate who wants to make up for Trump rule of racism etc. Like instating reperation taxes, or tax cuts for niggers and so on.

You can already tell that it is in the air. Most Europeans could not even justify why they should continue existing as a group if you asked them.

>>137850194
>The only issue I have with the Rome comparison, is that Rome didn't go governmentless
And that is the issue you're having in a nutshell.
Can you name a single government that has collapsed that ended up ''governmentless''?
A lot of civilizations and states have collapsed, but it's 100% without government.
If you're waiting for the US government to collapse, and that is your plan, you will be completely disappointed.

Go to bed, faggot.

>>137850412
>but it's 100% without government.
but it's never 100% without government.

>>137850026
>I just hope that it starts when I am still young, this country is so empty, nothing great to live and strive for. Just the next vacation, the next TV, the next tinder date etc. This is how most Germans live.
Yeah, it's becoming the same thing in the US. I'm really starting to resent the behaviors of people - they're just out of their minds with their stupid consumerism, there's no sense of loyalty or brotherhood, and tinder - don't even get me started on that nonsense culture....

When the fight does break out we'll have to make further headway to make sure this doesn't happen any time in the near future.... we have fellow Europeans in South Africa that could use a hand as well. I've been thinking about how to make that work.

>>137850760

The most important thing is that our spirit is restored.

Imagine Bayer and BASF being run by right wing chemical weapon scientists. We could depopulate Africa within a year.
We need to break free from (((their))) mind control or we are doomed. It is better to have a 30% white country of uncucked whites than an 80% white country filled with sheep.

>>137847460
No, you need to stop being underage retards. /pol/, hell even /new/, us fascists and libertarians had an understanding. Once we had removed the Marxist scum we would form our own states and engage in trade. That was we wouldn't need to fight or worry about some post-war balance of power. We would let nature decide which system was more effective, no need for conflict.

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>>137833395
>universal healthcare
>free education
>welfare
>not socialist

>>137850026
You're suffering from the disease of post 1913 Americanism. Rootless unbridled consumerism. No spirit, no aspirations to higher ideals. All self-worth and identity is derived from your possessions. It is a disgusting state and all the West is suffering from it. Economic inequality in this state will inevitably lead to a schism. With nothing else upon which to form your identity or to build up yourself worth, you rely on possessions. This will cause chronic low self-esteem among the poor, and eventually lead to great anger. Not sure if this is by design or just a fortunate for commies series of events.

>>137850147
>gibmonkeys for first two decades of their lives
My parents don't count, they volunteered.

>>137849576
> the second you try bring a shitskin into the country, is the second you eat a bullet.
And why do you think socializing the ICE is a better solution? Privatized white-only communities, specifically, privatized border patrol and insurance agencies have a direct incentive to fulfill their end of the contract.

> The government decides if a state of war exists
And whats to stop a 1984 where the government is in a constant state of war because it benefits them?

>>137851600

Rome.

>>137851875
I've actually been writing an article about this phenomenon. What a sad way this would be for the West to die. I hope we can find that spark that once drove our people to the greatest heights. Sometimes it's hard to not be blackpilled, hold me Hans

>>137852323

It is a constant pingpong between white and black pill for me.
You nailed it with your last post, very good writing.

>>137833602
Not in the Marxist-Socialist sense which is what people these days think of when you say socialism.
Natsoc is more about national identity and purpose without quashing individuality and personal success, marxist socialism is internationalist and more about giving all of yourself to the wider community.

>>137833395
>literally had a four year plan
>literally nationalized some companies so they can "privatize" them by giving them to businessmen who follow the plan
>literally had the administrative power to order a private business to do something, effectively planning the economy

>>137833801
>the people who want to take property and money from the individual so as to redistribute it amongst those they see arbitrarily as more deserving aren't socialists, they are totally the same as you
Day of the copter when!?

>>137851600
Libertarianism isn't an embrace of the blackpill last-man hedonistic death of the soul. It's just not having your self-actualization dictated by deranged race-warriors at the helm of the state.

>>137855504
>showing how insecure he is about the intellectual inconsistency of his ideology he responds to something that wasn't even an attack on it

Hey retard, that wasn't an attack on libertarianism. It was an attack on the crony capitalism that the USA has been spreading around the world since we were taken off the gold standard in 1913. Underage lolberg LARPers were a mistake.

Kek, that's a great smuggie.