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poldare - hope this one doesn't hit the bottom in 3 minutes

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Political chat for various options, help me stress test it and do make suggestions. I'll incorporate good ones.

Link: http://poldare.com

How it works:
All 14 positions are currently divided into 4 camps hostile to each other to the point a discussion can be had. I would recommend LARPing for a start if your queue is more than a minute since potential disbalance could occur. Once you get into a chat, it's pretty similar to omegle. 2 escapes to cancel a chat, 3 to return to "home". What the "A" button does I will let you figure out for yourself (see second webm).

This part is for /g/:
I do not recommend using it on small-resolution smartphones because I have not optimized the website for it. Larger tablets work fine. It is using shared hosting so host could bottleneck me if too many users connect, but the whole thing ought not to be too CPU-intensive for them. I do not at this point store messages - they are deleted as soon as they are read in order to keep tables small (unless in certain situations, such as other person disconnecting before the server detects it etc. - everything older than 30mins is purged manually). The only thing stored is the text from point of agreement (A button in chat, you'll figure out from second webm). I do not log nor check IPs in any way but I might implement it in the future for purposes of banning people (if that even shows to be necessary, and judging by omegle it's possible that it won't). VPNs and proxies work fine. If you are using uMatrix/noScript jquery and website's javascript is required in order to communicate with the server.

The future:
If you generally like it, I will make a simle app that optimizes the website for android and put it out there to reach more mainstream political positions. If it ever gets popular to the point where it could sustain itself, I'll get a dedicated server for it and introduce websockets which would introduce "the other user is typing" and instant responses (overall, smoother experience).
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bump for the Baath party
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>>137757697
inb4 requests for FSA
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>>137757032
bump
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There have currently been 76 chats instantiated.

This is posted here, on 8/pol/, 8/leftypol/ and 8/liberty/.

If you have a popular mainstream place for more moderate ideas, do post.
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>>137758222
nice numbers
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Also, please do bump since theads go away pretty fast now.
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>>137758678
>tfw no idea where to place nazbol
>can't find a group that isn't in conflict with nazbol
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>>137758809
nazbol is the ultimate synergy of every ideology. I don't need to argue for it, it is the future of all mankind, meme magic of /pol/, meme science of /leftypol/ and immortal science of dialectics wills it.

ALSO RENAME MARXIST SOCIALISM TO COMMUNISM, retard
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good fun
need tooltips on people politics icons for the plebs
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>>137759327
Good call, I'll have to put it on hover.
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>>137759299
>ALSO RENAME MARXIST SOCIALISM TO COMMUNISM, retard

Someone already asked on /leftypol/, will branch it out somehow.
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107 chats instantiated till now. I'm surprised that not too many people are stuck in the queue desu. Working good for now.

Give it a bumparino.
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im not sure about the name
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>>137760620
you should add "other user is typing" option. I can't into JS, so I can't imagine how hard it is.
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>>137757032
If possible add is typing option.
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i got in a chat but the person never responded

inactive users should be pruned
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>>137761191
Am i chatting with you? We are talking about natsoc/fascism
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>>137761173
Neither was I. Bottom line is, if it gits gud, I'll buy a new domain redirect it here and change the name on the front page.

>>137761191
>>137761219
Will add. It's not just JS, you need websockets for that (which is basically live-connection between you and the server). It's a bit tougher, yes.

>>137761247
They are pruned by you once a minute. Sadly, for now, if you catch someone between that period (and somehow the website didn't detect the user left, ala odd browsers/configs), you got into inactive chat. Will fix when I add websockets.
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>>137757032
bump
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thanks to the fag who opened my mind a bit about constitutional monarchies sry i'm shit at responding

also good idea OP
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rip my browser crashed right when I was talking to a natsoc. his last message was "you redpilled my nigga"
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>>137757032
bump
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I cant click on the "chat now" button and it doesnt seem to even be a link.
Could this be broken for Pale Moon/ Firefox?
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164 chats till now
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>>137757032
>Asks me what traditionalism entails
>Impatiently leaves because they can't wait for me to finish my fucking textwall introduction to a worldview that can't be summed up in 2 quick fucking sentences.
Progressives are fucking cancer.
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>>137762466
It requires jquery.com javascript for communication with the server and stuff like expanding menus and such.

If you use noscript/umatrix, you got to enable it. Not sure why else it would happen.
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>>137762618

>jquery for expanding menus
sounds like a great site
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>>137762618
You should enable people to see when the other person that they are talking with is typing.
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This is fun. Had a lovely chat with an ANCAP.
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>>137762900
Hey m80, it's already required for communication, got to leech it to the maximum. But yes, I could theoretically pull it out with my own hand-written js.

>>137762909
Will add, see >>137761537

>>137762967
>>137762610
>>137759327
Just noticed, do you guys not get the background image as in webm above? I did when I tested it.
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>>137763272
Neat site, my dude. Maybe think of incorporating a "X is typing..." feature, though.
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>>137762967
There actually were NatSoc plans for a Jewish ethnonationalist state though, my man.
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>>137763272
there seem to be alignment issues. the first time i tried the chat, i saw what looked like it was meant to be part of one of those images, but it was just at the right hand edge of the screen.
also, in the screencapped chat with no image, while we were still talking, my first comment got bumped up so half of it was cut off at the top of the screen, and it only re-appeared when the other user left.
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>>137763272
>not using asp.net and mssql backend
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>>137763481

I know. That's what I said.
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>>137762610
mate i literally waited a solid 2 minutes
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>>137763372
That's about 48 hours of learning websockets desu.
But will do.

>>137763489
Yes, I noticed that on smartphones. I tried it out on firefox and chromium so I assumed backgrounds will display fine on pc browsers though.
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>>137763598
Huh, I misread that somehow as just something that should've been thought about. My bad.
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>>137757032
I just want to say I like your idea OP. Good job
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>>137763671
It would take a lot longer than 2 minutes for you to read Revolt Against the Modern World - which I would nonetheless recommend if you're actually interested in gaining a cursory understanding of Traditionalism insofar as it applies to a broader sociopolitical context.
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>>137757032
2 bump
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>>137757032
Bumping this one
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>>137757032
Wtf is the rgn
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>>137765130
Don't respond to him, just leave and rejoin
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>>137765130
Some guy asked me this as well and when I replied no he just left
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>>137765251
Strange
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Questions for those who had a chat: Currently, friendly categories on the left are 1-3, 4-7 and right 1-3, 4-7. Example: NatSoc won't be paired with Fascist, Conservative won't be paired with Libertarian.

Would you like this restriction removed? I could add a checkbox for that.

>>137764084
Thanks bro.
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nobody is responding to me anymore. did i get shadow banned?
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>>137765527
Yeah, remove them.
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>>137765602
Same here, anything going on?
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>>137765527
A checkbox would be good, maybe some people just want to have a casual chat with their own ideology.
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The site seems to be off
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>>137765602
>>137765671

No ability for that yet. Try rejoining again.

What positions did you take? I'll check the database if something's stuck.
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>>137765753
I took fascism
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>>137765753
it only worked for me once when i chose progressivism.
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>>137765840
>>137765880

If you have some messages that you think other users didn't get, paste them. I'll find it easiest that way.

If I can't find them, someone received them.
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Hostile shit posting as an online Deathmatch?

Will try
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You should have a option to choose who do you want to discuss with. Like check boxes. This
also could be used to find friends who share your ideology.
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>>137766209
Yes, was considering that as well. Wouldn't be too hard to pull off.

Was also thinking about adding a political issue of the day, with only "pro" and "anti" side.
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>>137765251
I said yes then he asked me for a password like wtf
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>>137766476
>Was also thinking about adding a political issue of the day, with only "pro" and "anti" side.
This sounds good
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>>137757032
woah some guy just typed a message on my side

"wow, this thing is responding on my behalf" right before he left
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>>137767304
Oh boy, it's falling apart or someone is abusing it.

Probably the former.
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>>137767463
there was a proposal box with check/decline buttons, first time i have seen it
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that site is fishy as fuck

great idea tho
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>>137767658
Here's a demonstration. I forgot to explain it in this thread:
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>>137767814
yeah i have no idea why it's not https

i know js is dangerous too
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Great work, would love to support it.

Do you have a patreon or something similliar?
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bumpy dumpy
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>>137768117
>js is dangerous too
kek, you can't post here without js. But yes, it can be messy.

Last time I checked this host didn't provide free secure connection/https so I'll have to pay for it. I'll include it one way or another soon, maybe tomorrow.

>>137768308
Thanks. I'll setup patreon/hatreon soon. If the host detects too much CPU usage he'll force me to pay for a dedicated server so I'll need support certainly.
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This seems to have a lot of fucking commies.
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>>137769541

I'm the only commie I've encountered so far. I suppose it tries to match up opposites.
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>>137762967
Good for you, man. You won't further the cause by being obnoxious. Unless you're a lefty...in which case the media will take care of it for you.
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>>137766663
Again
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>>137757032

SSL certificates are free now, get a cert.
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>>137769541
i would love to talk to a commie but everyone i'm connected to is a helen keller deafmute
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>>137769888 (checked)
>release it
>don't include mechanism for IP ban

Hot damn.

>>137769994
Since when? I was trying to get one about 6 months ago for another project. Do tell, I will add it either way.
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>>>137769994
>>137770149
>>Since when?

From Let's Encrypt
https://letsencrypt.org/
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>>137770374
Thanks. Will put it.
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>>137757032
interesting way of collecting /pol/s IPs.
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>>137769888
Trying to find them no luck
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553 chats till now.
/proud/

>>137770942
You can use any proxy/vpn if you want. Other than that, I can only tell you that I'm not.

>>137772269
What's the deal with rgn in the first place?
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Bitch what the fuck?!
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>>137772511
No idea
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>no monarchist
wtf
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>>137773549
Monarchism is not an ideology.
It is a system of rule.
Like presidential democracy.
You can be a libertarian monarchist, a socialist monarchist.
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>>137773549
Well, as a monarchist, you're either going to fit in as a conservative, if you like your monarchs shit tier, or traditionalist, if yoiu prefer literal god tier ones.
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>>137757032
Is that Sargon for the nazi? kek
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Add sound effects
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>>137773549
Just use anarchist socialism, it's roughly the same level of retarded.
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>>137757032
>>137762610
perhaps a "Dis goy is typing..." thing woud be helpful
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Why is billy mays in the background
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>>137757032
Why is /pol/ so fast today?

Is it the nigger threat to that statue?
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>>137774791
There should be sound effects for incoming message. Please do say if you're not getting it.

>>137774637
You get image of ideology you're talking with.

There is an easter egg for one position though.

>>137775509
Will add, but will take me some time since I'll have to rework a lot. Requires different technology.

>>137775579
For which position? Did not put Billy mays.
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the fck almost everybody is afk when i join the chat or they say hello and nothing else is it bugged ?
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>>137776133
Maybe.

Type something peculiar I can search for. If I can't find it, it's delivered.
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>>137776071

Just some big guy with a beard, anyway good job op,
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had an issue where pressing return didn't post my comment. i tried the A button but it just popped a "suggestion" thing up.
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>>137776820
Uh oh. Hope it's not server.

If "enter" won't deliver your message, it's often because you can't push it to the server.

Hope the host didn't start throttling me. Would be too fast desu.
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Had another issue. Not technical this time.
Put me in chat with a commie. We greeted each other, and they didn't even wait 10 fucking seconds for me to ask them what school of communism they preferred.
Again, what's the fucking deal with leftists?
It's as if they don't actually want to discuss politics with anyone with a different opinion.
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Okay in the interest of impartiality, I tried something else.
I was going to say, I'm not actually an anarcho-syndicalist, but props to Bakunin for naming the Jew
But they left before I could finish.
Libertarians are fucking spackers too.
Honestly, my experience with these retards is only reinforcing my superiority complex.
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>>137777311
I had same problem with some "traditionalist"
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>>137777311
Quit typing so slow then.
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>>137777311
that was me and my internet dropped
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Having another problem now. Pressing enter is posting my comments, but it's not clearing the text field.
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>>137778642
Oh. Fair do's sorry for the judgement.
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>>137778662
That's certainly the issue of communication with the server.

The message field is cleared once the message push to the server is executed.
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It just kicked me from a chat with a NatSoc LARPing as a Progressive, mid-convo.
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Seems to be working well!
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>>137779545
What do you mean? Kicked as in redirected to home?

It will kill chat on 2xEscape, and go home at 3xEscape.
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>>137778548
if you were that marxist guy talking about drugs, i didn't quit on you

i waited around 10 minutes with "any response?" before closing the tab
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>>137779728
No, it just ended the conversation, said the other user had left, so I'm assuming it was another case as with the Marxist here
>>137777311
>>137778642
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>>137757032
Bump
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>>137779991
That's alright, when other user closes the tab or cancels via escape, it returns "other user had left".
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Hmm, I'd like to ask if there could possibly be just an anarchy choice? It could just be a general one for every type of anarchy. Merges two current options, and opens it far more. For instance, someone like me who would just prefer pure anarchy, could select anarchy and boast the benefits of not having any form of government, despite it only being a transitional state between types of government.
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>>137780231
Notice, it is possible that other user leaves without this notification, so if there's no response for a long time the page most likely didn't detect that user had left.

I'll have to add some mechanism against this.
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>>137779837
it wasn't me. there's fuckton of traditionalists
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>>137780271
that would make problem with fake anarchists ("anarcho"-capitalists) choosing the option
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Slow as balls OP.
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Anon above asked if I had patreon, just made it:
https://www.patreon.com/poldare
Will also put it on homepage, next to email.

>>137781174
In what sense?
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>>137781639
Take like 2 minutes to get a response. Its mostly quiet. Guess I should say its dead as fuck instead of slow as balls.
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>>137757032

If you made a /tg/ version you could have the different games people play or even different factions in games.
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>>137781734
There are currently 848 chats made since beginning of the thread, so there are people.

I can't tell yet if slow response depends on opponent you're chatting with or if it's server/bad script though.

>>137781937
Potential next project.
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>>137782153
>http://poldare.com
this is a really great idea op, thank you
maybe you could take from open-source irc code?
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>>137757032
another message popped up on my side while i was tabbed away, 5 seconds later the user left

the problem might be with multiple tabs or something
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>>137757032
This is an excellent idea.
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what is the guy and the cat supposed to be?
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>>137782431
Oh shit man, I didn't think about that.

It's possible that cookies are shared cross-tab and that it affects chat somehow.
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>>137782153
I'm constantly getting a quite fascist guy. Guess there no one to convo with.
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usually takes a while to get a response from someone, OP should probably advertise this more
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>>137782938
yeah almost everyone responds for a few seconds and just freezes up

they don't leave but they don't talk
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>>137757032
Could you possibly add something in the likes of "anon is typing" so people know when to wait and when to leave?
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>>137757032
What do you hope to achieve, op?
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i can't connect to anyone
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>>137759299
The digits confirm, /pol/ is now the property of Nazbol GANGGANG
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All opponents i get stop replying...
why the frick?
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>>137783321
1 on 1 chats are definitely far more likely to actually change anyone's mind than shitpost central, i.e 4chan
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>>137782726
Still experiencing this?

>>137782938
I'd put it on more mainstream sites, if honestly I knew a place where post would have the outreach.

Currently it's here, 8/leftypol/ and 8/liberty/.

>>137783237
Will investigate. Maybe I'll have to add some no-account system for pairing people that don't just leave.

>>137783268
Yes. Will take time though.

>>137783321
To become the next master webdev and live in infamy.
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How do I know that I conncted to a chat?
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>>137784020
same for everyone
dont take it personally
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>>137784128
The title "you are now in queue" should go away, and the bottom bar for you to type in should pop out.
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>>137784336
not me everyone loves me
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>>137784117
Great, i'm really liking what you did so far
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>>137784475
liar!
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Are servers down? cant get anyone....
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>>137784336
I took fascism myself, and promoted the idea of a homogenous society.
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>>137757032

Where is the islamist option, you fucking faggot.
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>>137785073
yeah i think its being updated right now as we speak, this will be resolved
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>>137785478
fun chat
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>>137757032
Imperialism
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Add Marxism-Leninism-Maoism and Marxism-Leninism-Jebism
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>>137784117
Yep, no one to talk to.
Gonna try out non Libertarian to see if that is the issue.
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Alright OP two quick suggestions:

1. A "user is typing" message so you know if the other person is typing or not

2. Make is so you can hover over your partners picture and see what their ideology is
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>>137785787

Maoism and Trotskyism should at least be seperate entries.
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>>137757032
needs ssl
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>1000+ chats till now

This is getting spooky. Half of those are leavers though, certainly.

>>137785993
Might just add notification message above.
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>>137757032
Needs to be optimized for phone users. The chats kinda wonky.
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Serious question: Are some of you using multiple tab-chats at once?

I don't know how to explain this otherwise. Just tested it out and got odd results.
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>>137785576
How do you propose ?
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>no National Bolshevik
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please add:
>radical centrist
>monarchist
>capitalist fascism
>theocrat / christian
> objectivist
>corporatist
>keynesian
>maybe add two menus: one for economic position and one for social, then let the other user mouse over the image to see
> add identitarian ideologies like white-national etc or maybe just add ethno-nationalism
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>>137786926
type a message and press the big "A"
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i wonder what would happen if this thread were reported for a rule violation
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>>137787025
make this the icon for radical centrism
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>>137787232
Well I'm pretty sure nothing would happen since it's not violating any rules
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7777
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>>137787232
reported for announcing a report
:^ )
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I think its broken
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>>137788075
It appears to be broken as hell for some chats.

I'm not sure what actually happens there. Some messages don't get through.
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This thing feels bugged, too many users leave after greeting or never respond.
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>>137788236
maybe there's too many users on at once?
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>>137788236
Yeah I haven't gotten any replies in my last few chats. Wait a minute or two then DC.
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>>137785701
do it fagt
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My chats keep dying, even when they're going good.
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what is this kiwi shit?
am i supposed to type a nickname?
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all chats die after a few posts, I'll try again but I believe it's the problem of server, not people
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>>137788998
It's the global irc channel for website while you're in queue.

Also for guy who was in chat with me and said he can into computers, my email is on homepage, do contact me if you want to help.
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I'm thinking about purging all tables and starting the shit again. This could potentially cause a huge mess though due to those still in chats.
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>>137790271
just fix it, I'm tired of the whole thing dying off after I explain why everyone a fucking faggot
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>>137757032
great stuff, but no anarcho primitivism? Common man it's my go to ideology.
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>>137791505
ideology is inherently anti-anarchoprimo
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>>137791830
In the end game yes, but we have to get there first.
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>>137792134
i guess i probably should have brought up posting on the internet first
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>>137757032
OP, i really like your idea. I really do. Please fix it because right now it's pretty broken.
>>
I see there are many active chats existing, and messages are being exchanged.

Is anyone at all managing to have a decent chat without issues such as missing messages (eventually)?
This is somewhat important to my diagnosis.
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>>137792511
I know I don't
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>>137792447
It sickens me, but it must be done until we can live in harmony like the natives.
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>>137792511
i had one with a commie till i convinced them they were wrong
it lasted 5 messages
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Fucking B R O K EN, man this is disappointing. I enjoyed 1 one 1 conversation with /pol/ fags.
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>>137792511
All of mine end after a short time.
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>>137792511
People need to post their convos more often. I'd like to see two sides to the same one, half of them missing on either side.
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>>137792659
>be living in anprim society
>get enslaved by fellow native because they overran our tribe and killed our leaders and took our women as breeding slaves
>spend days chained to plow because people didn't just fucking forget agriculture existed
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>>137793016
No, do Natives of the Amazon kill each other and have slaves? No because they are content, it is how humans should live.
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>>137789003
>i believe the problem of server not people
>implying anyone wants to actually talk to commies except for other commies
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>>137792909
Not sure if I'm missing things here.
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>>137793216
you would have to somehow wipe the memory of everyone on earth to get them to be content living as a savage, you can't just expect a rich man to be satisfied if he loses everything
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Alright. I'm going to reset everything. It will all probably go to hell due to people still remaining in chat, adding their stuff under indexes higher than those after reset.

Here goes nothing. Sorry if you're currently in a good chat.

Reset = Now. Test it out, and see if it gets better.
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>>137793417
We have to reduce population, we will start with the genetically lost humans. Pure humans will feel content living life the proper way.
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>>137793292
>commie arguments are so superior to all other ideologies (because it's not and ideology) so people can't respond
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>>137757032
This is pretty good
>>
Libertarian started a convo with a Green. Asked what I was gonna do for someone else's forests.

Seems p legit, I dig it.
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Are chats working better now?

I did a reset a minute ago, see lots of you active already.
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>>137793942
It was me my friend
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Heh
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None of my chats work. I connect but nobody is ever there.
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People keep leaving or there's a problem once you get to a certain point
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>>137794784
me too
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>>137794784
>>137794889
exit and rejoinn
you'll be connected to some ass who refuses to talk
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>>137794171
>>
I wonder if people just aren't responding because im libertarian... people hate talking to us.
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>>137795250
The web site is just broken. It'll randomly disconnect you or get you no one at all.
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>>137757032
>http://poldare.com
I don't master this medium. It makes me feel anxious as if I am standing in front of a stranger.
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>>137795250
I was talking to a libertarian but he kept saying snek snek snek and did *slither slither*
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>>137795250
See
>>137794224
You people have the biggest share of retards.
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Party in room ss=304
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>>137795250
>>137795535
It is broken. In at least 50% of cases when no one is responding to you for a long time, it's a glitch/disconnect.

Tomorrow I'll rewrite the way messages are sent/received.

But I see now that many of you are somewhat interested in this (when it works) so I'm now convinced this is something worth investing time in.
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>>137796186
That number is your position index.

Currently, there are 160 chats/attempts since the reset (half and hour ago). Before that, we were at 1200+.
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do you have a link to the leaked game of thrones episode
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>>137796663
Bump for this. Stream preferred.
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>>137796396
I think you are making a mistake, if you dont fix it now then it'll lose steam.

it has gotten worse. Chats barely last a minute
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>>137797173
I agree, sadly it's impossible to do this without 5-6 hours of work.

I'll have to make the same thread when I update it.
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>>137797419
Please do, I would enjoy that. People are hostile to anarcho prims on there but in time we can sway opinion.
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>>137797578
anarcho-primo is spreading quickly thanks to the miracle of technology
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>>137797712
Somewhat yes, people are further from natures intent than ever before, and a longing of returning to the rightful state of life is rising.

I know you made a point in jest, but you are correct when the context is understood.
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Alright, OP going off.

I will leave the website online but it will probably get worse from here since it seems that it works well from the start, then when indexes increase things start collapsing.

I will try making the thread same time tomorrow after I rewrite the send/receive code completely.

This went better in reception than I thought it would, but sadly also worse in performance. The issue is, I can't even figure out why the chats are messing up. Still, the way I intend to rework it will probably bypass whatever error is happening now.

I want to thank everyone for participating.

My contact is [email protected] if you need me for whatever reason.
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>>137798526
it was fun. I'll be on the look out for your threads in the future.
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>no ethnonationalism
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