I think rape victims should be prosecuted too.

>>137712528
>islam general

>>137712528
Your sub-90 IQ is showing.

"Religion of peace"
http://www.strawpoll.me/13717504
http://www.strawpoll.me/13716972

Not as bad as Judaism tho

>>137712528
The problem is that your position assumes absolute knowledge on the part of the victim. Knowing what some random person may plan on doing at some random point of time.

If we are to assume that then we should also generalize that to every crime, indeed to every accident. Car across the road went out of control? Why didn't know that would happen?

Certainly people who knowingly put themselves in a position of risk should not be counted as victims in the same way as others. But you assume to much knowledge on the part of others.

>>137712528
I agree only if the same goes for attempted murder.

>>137712528
Bank tellers should be charged the same as bank robbers for keeping all that money in their vaults then.

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>>137712528
>Im not asking to be raped
>Im wearing it for comfort.

You dont have to be a gat fucking sand nigger to know that women insolent whores whod ress and act slutty then think they are entitled to have a choice over who sticks their cock in them.

If you throw meat in the yard every dog gets a chomp.

>>137712528
Replace rape with murder, theft, arson, larceny or whatever. You sou retarded and should wear a helmet during day to day life

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>Implying a man should have to walk passed this and with hold his natural urges.

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>>137714157
Or this.....I mean come the fuck on.

>>137714080
fuck off sandnigger

>>137714080

Women only do this because we allow them to. As men, we need to bond together to take control over our women.

Not in the false MTGOW narrative about men not being granted equality. Equality is a lie. We should not seek equality, we should seek domination over women. A caring domination, but domination nonetheless.

Do not let women dominate you intellectually, physically, morally or otherwise. It is better to be wrong and never admit defeat than to accept a position lower than women by saying they are correct.

They need to fear you like a god, or at least fear their god if they do not serve you.

I agree a women that shows off her goods should expect to get raped like an animal by horny niggers

But i'd rather behead Sluts

>>137712528
>THE CITY OF MALAYA

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>>137714694
>As men, we need to bond together to take control over our women.

Yeah a mass rape.

>>137714707
KYS nigger

>>137714157
love me some big tits, not gonna lie

>>137712528
Should we also arrest victims of assassination attempts for making the situation possible? Dumb lslamic subhuman

So the rapist accidentally penetrated the women without consent?Yeah, makes a hell lotta sense

>>137712528
I think car crash victims should also be prosecuted. If your in front of a car that is speeding or breaks the road rules you should also be prosecuted because you placed yourself into this situation by leaving your home.

Kys fgt.

>>137712528

She lived next door to me officer! She was asking for it!

Fucking Shoot Yourself!

Im a MGTOW in a sense that I abstain from relationships but I agree with you man.Thanks.

>>137712528
Rape doesn't occur unless one of the people involved doesn't want to have sex. So it's actually the victim who turns the sexual act into rape by not wanting it.

Well, no one told her to dress so provocatively and be in secluded locations!

In the old testament the wise elders saw most rape for the adultery and fornication that it is.

If the woman didn't scream so that someone could hear it's adultery unless she was out in the field.

>>137712528
>"Women should never go outside" the post.

>>137715752

More like"Women shouldn't dress like gold digging whores and be in fucking secluded locations" post

>>137714157
Wow dude. Way to imply you're a literal animal that has no self control and no difference to the common beasts.

>>137714707
Fucking sand nigger, GTFO

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>>137714694
This guy jerked off while writing this post. Think about that.

>>137715937
Deep down we are all beasts you just need a little push
>>137715938
Crusify yourself degenerate

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>>137712528
That's a nice starfish OP.

>>137716203
Just because you goatfuckers can't control yourselves doesn't mean the rest of us can't. Also, learn to spell dipshit.

>>137712528
hello jew
> i think murder victims should be prosecuted too, murder can only take place when the victim can be murdered
> i think car jacking victims should be prosecuted too, car jacking can only take place when the victim can be car jacked
> i think robbery victims should be prosecuted too, robbery can only take place when the victim can be robbed
> i think flood victims should be prosecuted too, flood can only take place when the victim can be flood
99% of niggers won't understand what I just said
protip: look at insurance, autoinsurance, house insurance, and flood insurance
niggers
LIABILITY VERSUS CULPABILITY
YOU FUCKING RETARDED NIGGER
DID YOU EVEN GO TO FUCKING SCHOOL
YOU FUCKING NIGGER

>>137716248
Thank you.The Astropecten Articulatus is quite literally my favourite starfish.

>>137712528
malaysia... truly autism
how inbred are you?

>>137714707
Nice LArp. We don't behead women. We enslave them, breed them, then throw them out in the wilderness

>>137715937
It's Christian though. Women tend to not get raped when they are living in their husband or fathers house, dont associate with strange men, and dress modestly.

I'm sure you'll argue though that womenz have the right to get drunk in whorish clothes, pass out in a puddle of their own piss in the parking lot of the club then have any male who spoke with them charged with rape.
>>137715938
Cuck

>>137716641
There's no Christian basis for that way of thinking. Try again.

>>137716641
Im a liberal for my country and an atheist, but I agree with u surprisingly :D

>>137716343
Controling yourself by Being a beta numale who lets his females dress like prostitutes to get raped by niggers
>>137716502
Ofcourse the wahabi faggot would rather fuck sluts than hang them

>>137716912
Keep them away from niggers like yourself and they tend not to get raped. You're the real problem here, kebab.

>>137717063
Are you going to tell me that whites have no sexual urges?

>>137717389
Of course not you idiot. But we keep ours contained. The highest rape rates in the world are in conservative non-western nations. Men like you are the problem.

>>137712528
>see flag
>Face palm

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>>137714080
>>Im wearing it for comfort.
That is always the best of stupid statements.

>>137712528
i disagree
BUT i think false rape accusations should be facing the same amount of time their accused was
And they should be made to publicly apologize.

No matter how embarrassing it is for them. When you protect a false rape victim by saying you are protecting them so real rape victims are not afraid to come out. Then you know the law must be rewritten.

Because that ideology can apply to anything.

I swatted someone, so no charges for me. Incase someone really needs to call in a swat team, you dont' want them to be afraid.

>>137712528
it is hard to say what is victim blaming and what is appropriate proportionality for blame in the case that a woman or man is raped by either sex.

It depends on what you call consent if you are having sex with someone in a Bondage and dominance situation where you play rape each other, how do you know when she is actually consenting or just playing with you.

The thing is this is a MASSIVE thing for women and subgays.

also once someone is past puberty(12,13,14) and actively seeks out sex with older men or women and then looks back and calls it abuse it is retarded since they actually wanted it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7MARaVqLvk

here is a video of a woman who fucked a man at 13 and now regrets the """abuse""" and we are all made to feel sorry for her, put your cunt away then you little tart!

>>137712970
FPBP

>>137720475
I actually agree with you on this one.I think if you really try to consider my viewpoint, you'd understand.

>>137720775
maybe because i used to work at a strip bar

I have a different view. But no one is forcing you to rape a girl

if a bank teller puts money on the table because she's counting it. With ops theory. He has the right to take it and the blame is on both parties

Where the fuck is she supposed to count her til money?!

the truth is. No one forces you to do anything. You decdie what to do. Therefore your decisions always have consequences.

Or should.

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>>137714707
well maybe to you who has lived all his life with women in modest clothes could have this opinon.

we need a bunch of "sexual emergency" shitskins during femen protests.

>>137720475
>BUT i think false rape accusations should be facing the same amount of time their accused was

Absolutely. At 10 years old I was accused of rape by an 8 year old I had never met. Police investigation revealed she had made it all up

>>137720984

In that situation the thief should be prosecuted and the bank teller should be fired for being careless with her money

>>137712528
Isn't it entirely the rapist's fault for not controlling their own body?

>>137712528

Idiot ....

Do you also think that burglary victims should be prosecuted too? What about identity theft victims?

Why are they known as rape 'victims'?
Its a proven fact that women enjoy getting raped, with the majority reaching climax

>>137720984
My view was made with the mindset that a girl is not strongly compelled to do things which directs to rape but she does it anyways and in doing so, she caused rape to herself.Therefore, the ethical strain is on her, but since she never perpetrated it and she never intended it, we could say that both the rapist and the victim should be prosecuted.Its not the rapist's fault that he can't control his desires and sees a girl in the dark alleyway alone but the rapist raped her anyways.You see how theres a great immoral position in both the rapist and the victim's side?

>>137721432
Consent is the key here.

>>137721457
Uh, maybe people should control their urges & keep their hands & genitals to themself?

>>137714080

Though I might agree that some of the outfits are ridiculous and I would recommend wearing something else, that doesn't give anyone the right to rape.

>>137721432
Source or gtfo

>>137712970
In Southern Japan (Kyushu region) there is similar culture women have to obey rapists. It's called "おっとい嫁じょ" (ottoi-yomejo), they are not muslims, but Japanese Southerners are known for low IQ so I think this kind of crazy cult is caused by stupidity.

>>137721301
No
If I do not lock the door to my house at night with the knowledge that robbers will probably come inside and take my shit and they did take my shit.The rightful moral pretence would be to assign the blame to the thieves for their immoral actions and me for purposefully getting myself into this situation
Now, when rape occurs.You blame the rapist for being so selfish and harmful, but you also blame the girl for putting herself in this position.

>>137721771
This. Nobody deserves to die/be raped/etc., but you're a fucking moron if you go to Africa & get malaria for not using a mosquito net.

>>137721838
That culture isn't similar to my viewpoint, stop perverting my message

>>137712528

The Muslim wants to prosecute rape victims. Who would have thought!

>>137721771
I'm not advocating for the right to rape but Im advocating for the blame to be partly placed on the victims themselves.

>>137721913
That has nothing to do with the rape. Even someone who doesn't lock their doors are a victim of theft. It's still their property. It may have happened because of their negligence, but they are not the culprit.

>>137721730
Maybe if women stop wearing provocative clothing and being in secluded locations

>>137712528
People like you will be some of the first I kill when shtf...

>>137722173
They're not the culprit, but they allowed it and certainly caused it.

>>137721301
What if the rapist is drunk and unable to consent to being a rapist?

>>137722273
Well, thanks for the heads up, I'll kill you first so that I will never be partly responsible for my death.The same way I am partly wrong for my murder because I allowed u to get to me, the same way it is partly wrong for women when they get raped because they put themselves in a situation where rape is possible

>>137722436
In this case, I'd argue that the victims are still partly wrong.They chose to dress provocatively and be in secluded locations.If she just stayed in a place where there are people, the rape would've been prevented

>>137722187
If you can't control your body, you're literally retarded.

If a girl chooses to dress like a tramp, she is basically bleeding around sharks. Her choice of fashion is dumb, but it's entirely the rapist's fault for attacking.

Should you be responsible if you were assaulted for showing your ugly mug in public?

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>>137721457
letting the rapist off is stupid as it was not his fault if he didn't contain himself.

but yes some women lead rapists on and even want to be raped, i mean there is a whole genre of porn.

i mean that what a bunch of women look up

https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/bm9w7v/why-are-so-many-women-searching-for-ultra-violent-porn

"I dont just mean being dominated, or a fantasy in bed, but full on violent rape.

A few months ago, I got raped for the first time. It was 4 large guys that threw me in a van, and went at me for nearly an hour. At first I reacted like a normal victim, screaming kicking, trying to fight back. But after the second switch I realized, I was actually enjoying this! Wtf was wrong with me, I should not be liking it? But I found myself cooperating and getting off more times than I can remember.

Since then I have been going out of my way to find situations for it to happen again. I've been putting myself in danger in the worst parts of town to find it. I've even had to go to the hospital after one particularly rough time, but I still keep going back out.

What is wrong with me and why am I loving this? I have never had any submissive or masochistic tendencies, I have always been rather vanilla other than being bi-sexual."

http://www.uncommonforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=82840

>>137722320
No, that's not allowing it at all. Walking around wearing nothing but a shirt that has printed "Fuck Me" might be asking for it, but you don't blame someone if they did not consent.

>>137712528

Attention, OP is filthy moooslem from malaysia.

Religion

Official:
61.3% Islam (Sunni)
Other religions:
19.8% Buddhist
9.2% Christian
6.2% Hindu
3.4% other

>>137722699
The rapist is retarded and so is the victims.
If I went outside naked and got beaten.I don't just blame the people who were beating me, I blame myself too for putting myself in a situation which compelled others so greatly as to beat the hell out of me.Same as rape.The rapist is bad.So is the victim for compelling the rapist to act on his desires!Furthermore, the rape could've been prevented if she had stayed at an area with people but no, she put herself in a situation which compels and allows that rapist to rape her.

>>137722006
Well, I forgot we can't talk each other when the gap of IQ is too huge. Sorry, monkey subhuman.

>>137722922
Im not even a muslim!For fuck sake Im an atheist!Also, a muslim probably has more morality than you atheists anyways.

>>137722436
The rapist consented to drugging themselves. Everyone is responsible for whatever their body does. The drug may have encouraged an act, but an individual still chose to take a drug that takes away their autonomy.

>>137723047
You were the one that replied to me multiple times for fuck sake

>>137723124
I never said that the rapists aren't responsible for the rape.Im saying that the victim is also responsible for it.

>>137723186

No, the goats are innocent!

>>137723350
The goats are too dumb.They're innocent.

>>137722946
You can blame yourself for the attack, but you did not beat yourself up. The only difference between standing outside naked & being attacked is the attackers.

It's stupid to put oneself in a situation where he/she is at increased risk of assault be it dressing provacatively or wearing a Browns jersey, but they were not the actors.

>>137723516
Yeah, the victims aren't the perpetrators, but they chose to compel and allow the rapists to rape them when they themselves weren't that compelled to actually compel and allow the rapist to rape them.
If I punched the leader of a gangster for no reason and I got killed in a bad way.I'd say I'm wrong too, that if Im still alive, I should still be prosecuted and condemned/blamed for willingly stirring shit up.

>>137723186
Perhaps one can say one may have increased their risk of assault, but blame for an action one did not consent to cannot be withheld in court. People drive all the time, but is it their fault for getting into an accident when they followed the laws but chose to take part in an action of riding in a car? Being in a car increases one's risks of being in a car accident.

>>137712528

So women should be raped if they are being Haram?

>check flag
>Malaysia

Yep. It checks out.

rape "survivors" basically let it happen
If you don't die while trying to protect yourself you're really not fighting it now are you?

>>137712528
>Inb4 "Found the Incel"

>>137724569
Im not an incel really
I live a MGTOW lifestyle in a way that I abstain from relationships and Im a non MGTOW in a way that I don't just place the horrors of relationships to being solely caused by the female.Im a whole different animal.

>>137724236
What do I mean by rape survivors allow rape to occur?By that I meant that they wore provocative clothing and stood in secluded locations.

>>137723948
When you drive a car, at least you have seatbelt and some bag that inflates when your car crash.But when you wear provocative clothing, you're not even in a location with people to fucking protect yourself!

>>137725394
But shouldn't underwear be enough protection from penises? A seatbelt can only do so much.

Is it your fault that you got Salmonella from drinking water that you thought was purified? Shouldn't you have not been reckless to not boil & treat the water before you sucked it down?

>>137725782
Pfft, the answer is so obvious, you can figure it out on your own.Stop relying on me for the answers.

>>137714080
>women are evil cos they dont give me sex
>they should not be slutty cos man are apes who cant control themselves
how are you better than a nigger?