When did you realize West Germany was a mistake East Germany

That hat always looked so fucking dumb to me. Even my opa prefered the stahlhelm.

File: sanyo505285.jpg (97KB, 620x827px) Image search: [Google]

97KB, 620x827px

>>137703841
It's a Stahlhelm you twat

>>137703928
The classic one I mean.

File: 3951f9b154df2ff2e0342a807369220f--german-uniforms-modern-warfare.jpg (182KB, 736x1084px) Image search: [Google]

182KB, 736x1084px

>>137703995
Still better than Bundeswehr

http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/the-german-hair-force-a-failed-experiment-in-military-manes-a-744992.html

>>137703757
When did you realize that phraseology is as stupid as it is presumptuous.

There were many things wrong with East Germany. Snitches everywhere, people vanishing left and right into gulags or graves, bad economy, pollution and so on. Oh, and due to the "everybody is guaranteed a job and guaranteed money" countless employees started slacking and not fulfilling their duties because they knew they would just get another job.

However there were also great things about DDR. Fine education system, dirt cheap book stores where you could get high quality literature. And the government kinda cared about the people. During the coffee crisis their government reacted just great:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_German_coffee_crisis

In the years 1980 and 1986, two treaties were signed between East Germany and Vietnam, whereby East Germany provided the necessary equipment and machinery for production, increased the area of coffee plantation from 600 hectares (1,500 acres) to 8,600 hectares (21,000 acres), and trained the local population in cultivation techniques.[19] In particular, East Germany provided trucks, machinery, and irrigation systems for the newly founded Kombinat Viet-Duc, as well as well as spending approximately 20 million USD on a hydropower plant.[19] East Germany also built housing, hospitals, and shops for the 10,000 people who were relocated to the area for coffee production. Against this investment, East Germany was scheduled to receive half of the coffee harvest for the next 20 years.[19] However, coffee takes eight years from planting until the first usable harvest, which occurred in 1990.[20]

Vietnam was quickly able to establish themselves after 1990 as the second-largest coffee producer in the world after Brazil, driving much of the traditional coffee production in Africa out of the market.

Germany losing was the biggest mistake of them all!

>>137704774
Are you an Ossi? Happy with the reunification or rather not?

File: death smiles at us all.jpg (60KB, 800x450px) Image search: [Google]

60KB, 800x450px

>>137703757
Behold glorious pinnacle of DDR (GDR) engineering. Why the need for over-complicated BMW capitalist Scheißhaufe when plucky little Trabi's parts can be fixed with shoe string or by blowing on it and plugging it back in.

File: 454.jpg (404KB, 1561x882px) Image search: [Google]

404KB, 1561x882px

>>137705194
As a whole it was a disaster Honecker was right

File: teletext.jpg (102KB, 600x460px) Image search: [Google]

102KB, 600x460px

Speaking of Wessies remember teletext lewd?

File: waffenbrueder_plakat_L-1994-02-0005.jpg (200KB, 1280x1794px) Image search: [Google]

200KB, 1280x1794px

Greatest brotherhood

File: 1454793725689-0.jpg (1MB, 1024x1488px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1024x1488px

>>137703757
It's kinda funny, our current society is so cucked the GDR almost seems like a "Third Reich lite" when in reality it was simply a state governed by a system that wasn't *explicitly* anti-national, unlike West Germany whose inhabitants were essentially stripped of their culture and turned into neutered Americans in the biggest social engineering experiment in history. The GDR was simply what a normal nation state looks like, even under a nominally "internationalist" ideology.

>>137705677
Yeah, looks like a really comfy place to live in. Drivin' a Trabbi made from reinforced cardstock and living in one of those nice commie block must have been awesome.

One time I visited DDR on a school trip (East Berlin) and got a culture shock. Everything looked so grey. But the book stores were fucking awesome, spent all my money there, actually.

File: b32bb763edc9e083bc4b78547d7b9e52.jpg (375KB, 1024x770px) Image search: [Google]

375KB, 1024x770px

>>137706082
DDR was patriotic

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Democratic_Party_of_Germany_(East_Germany)

>>137706082
The TL DR version

Western Allies punished Germany for the third reich dismantling it's pride meanwhile the USSR considered Germany a victim of Hitler so the national pride remained with a emphasis of the socialist compatible traditions of Bauernkrieg,Scharnhorst,Engels,Strasser etc

File: 96cc88cfa808994b6b0dd5d9a4b5df57.jpg (195KB, 1757x978px) Image search: [Google]

195KB, 1757x978px

>>137706182
The pinnacle of the Bundesrepublik get bribed by Lockheed jews and send your pilots to explode in mid air

>>137707129
Are you even aware that East and West were secretly cooperating many years prior to the reunification? We helped you guys out with loans to boost your weapons export industry to boost your economy. We were never really enemies after the separation happened, it was all pseudo diplomatic dick swinging. You should be glad that you are wieder heim ins Reich. And now we rule Europe.

>>137707129
Didn't Hartmann resign because of this?

when I played rance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG8u5LZKAjc

File: 1492380305215.png (905KB, 721x583px) Image search: [Google]

905KB, 721x583px

>>137708190
Brothers in arms

File: DDR.png (2MB, 1557x1101px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1557x1101px

the soviet union should have left silesia and vorpommern as parts of east germany

File: 1439921444481.jpg (93KB, 549x528px) Image search: [Google]

93KB, 549x528px

>>137708748
That image makes me fucking sad...

t. Silesian ancestry

File: schlesierland.jpg (3MB, 4496x3143px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 4496x3143px

>>137708899
As a Serb, I have always had a fetish for Silesia

I don't quite know why, it's just the sexiest looking of all the German regions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOQnOseZMMk

File: 45016-3x2-original.jpg (53KB, 800x533px) Image search: [Google]

53KB, 800x533px

He tried, but (((they))) were against this

File: DDR posters17.jpg (23KB, 424x600px) Image search: [Google]

23KB, 424x600px

>>137703757
It was better.
It was truly in the eastern european brotherhood.

The biggest shame is that it unified with western degeneracy.
It could have been the next Poland after commie collapse. It could have embraced the Prussian culture and separated itself from western capitalist degeneracy...
I still consider east germany an eastern european brother and not some western tolerant obsessed cuckolds.

>>137708899
Which city are your ancestors from btw?

File: DDR posters18.jpg (50KB, 432x599px) Image search: [Google]

50KB, 432x599px

>>137709144
Never Forget.

Fuck off commies

File: stg44.jpg (78KB, 736x541px) Image search: [Google]

78KB, 736x541px

>>137709144
>>137709264
i agree

DDR was Third Reich Lite edition

There is actually a Goebbels quote somewhere where he says that if Germany should choose again between Communism(Socialism) and Democracy, they would choose Communism, because Communism is at least in some aspects very similar to National Socialism and in others it is very different and violently and openly anti-nationalistic, so the people could openly see the threat and the problem and work to overcome it, whereas in democracy the threat is always hidden away, unseen but always destroying you subtly and you can't do anything about it

File: 8c9d6b81bde28181b4236f15795a6cee--angela-merkel--year-old.jpg (22KB, 308x366px) Image search: [Google]

22KB, 308x366px

>>137704727
Daily reminder that Germany is still unironically ruled by a litteral communist official from East Germany.

File: commie wheat fields.jpg (90KB, 736x1072px) Image search: [Google]

90KB, 736x1072px

>>137703757
MUH WHEAT FIELDS

>>137709263
A village at the Katzbach river, near Goldberg. It was called Reichwaldau.

>>137709566
unfortunately....

marxism runs very deep in germany today

>>137709566
>litteral communist official from East Germany.
>Cosmopolitan Christian Democratic Party
>Communist Official

Lmao

>>137703757
east germany at least kept the military tradition going

although thats about as much good as i can say about them

>>137709623
i can find goldberg today in poland in the silesia region but i cant find reichwaldau

https://www.google.rs/maps/place/59-500+Злoтopијa,+Пoљcкa/@51.1214961,15.8677558,11.46z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x470f1795a3961faf:0x40bf58beb328a95a!8m2!3d51.1259316!4d15.9213852?hl=sr

>>137709566

>Daily reminder, that Germany would be ruled by East Germany anyway

>Petry
>Merkel
>Wagenknecht

all of them were born in DDR

West Germany turned this way because of the US denazification program. The Soviets had their own denazification program of course, but their focus wasn't on destroying national identity / pride, etc., they simply wanted to implement their communist ideas.

>>137709566
Merkel is doing a pretty good job, actually. She's pretty opportunistic, I'll admit, but that way we're "almost" a democracy. She will get re-elected, there is zero chance that another party than the CDU will win. Only question is with what other parties they will need to start a coalition to get absolute majority.

Daily reminder that Japan is producing some of the most depraved "art" on this planet. Maybe they need another nuke to repair that.

File: DDR posters.jpg (36KB, 548x388px) Image search: [Google]

36KB, 548x388px

>>137709506
Democracy and uncontrolled capitalism hiddenly corrupts people and makes them degenerates obsessed with profits.
Soviet communism openly oppressed people, but it is also promotes some sort of nationalism which is morphet into the "new soviet man" concept
It's much more easily to resist commies and nations which come out from it will mostly always be red pilled about far-left like in situation of Poland and rest of east europe.

File: 8865_600.jpg (27KB, 500x352px) Image search: [Google]

27KB, 500x352px

>>137709854

>US denazification program
>had NSDAP bundeskanzler

>>137709964
exactly

its mind boggling how similar DDR propaganda is to Third Reich propaganda as well

File: Heimat Schlesien.jpg (737KB, 1900x1700px) Image search: [Google]

737KB, 1900x1700px

>>137709818
Yeah, as I said, it's a really small village, and I have no idea what the Polacks even call it these days. Tfw me and a few relatives will soon be the only people alive who remember it.

Also, pic related is my grandparents' Silesia map.

>>137710059
DDR was better

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Ernst_Remer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Reich_Party

File: DDR posters1.jpg (147KB, 400x573px) Image search: [Google]

147KB, 400x573px

>>137710085
Funny, isn't it?
Sometimes i think it would have been better if soviets occupied entire Germany...

>>137705606
As a child when I couldn't sleep at night, I would sneak downstairs to watch such ads for kicks.
Damn I miss the 90s, times were much simpler.

>>137710059
He went through the regular denazification program.

File: furschlesien.jpg (186KB, 800x957px) Image search: [Google]

186KB, 800x957px

>>137708899
me too, but at least the Polish people respect their country so the Silesian culture will continue too exist and not get destroyed by mass immigration and BRD-Politik.
East-Prussia makes me sadder. All that culture lost...

t. Upper-Silesian ancestry

File: pact.png (350KB, 1200x1431px) Image search: [Google]

350KB, 1200x1431px

SOON

>>137709839
Yeah and do you know why? We've had huge corruption scandals with politicians from west germany, they got too spoiled by capitalism. Merkel is good for our country, a coalition with the AfD would be a wet dream because it would help our country to do a little shift to the right again. It's funny how many right-wingers and nationalists you still find in the ex DDR, they were raised to love their country in a patriotical way yet care about what the peasants want.

All things considered, this helps us to break free from big bro America's brainwashing, and that's a good thing.

File: 9a5.jpg (11KB, 178x211px) Image search: [Google]

11KB, 178x211px

>>137710483
>Fuhrer.

>>137709885
Lel. Your country is a thinking ship invaded by countless migrants from all over the world. You'll soon discover the "good" job your politicians have achieved during the last 2 decades when you'll see the demographic shit coming in full effect after the boomers are gone. That is, 2020-2030.

You're cucked beyond repair while JPN is nowhere near you. JPN powerstructure is mostly run by nationalists and the average japanese folk is basically mourning Hiroshima as the biggest crime ever while your own populace do not even remember the crimes of Dresden or Hamburg.

Hitler shot himself in 1945, Showa Tenno was still in charge as of 1989. And you're now ruled by commies who have infected your liberal democratic system while we have infected ours with nationalism.

Go home /leftypol/ you fucking faggots

File: aliens in captcha.jpg (1005KB, 1280x905px) Image search: [Google]

1005KB, 1280x905px

>>137708748
>mfw I'm form Kolberg

File: 1397485358618.jpg (368KB, 840x700px) Image search: [Google]

368KB, 840x700px

>>137710411
>>137710483
>>137710555
>>137710596
Reminder that Stalin was willing to allow complete reunification of Germany a year before his death, in exchange for German neutrality. Eternal curse upon the USA-subservient west german traitor filth who willingly and happily sold our nation to our true enemy.

>>137710592
Just bad resolution picture. If you look closely you can see the Ü. If that was what you were implying.

>>137710615
tfw kolberg is a german town lol
>>137710122
mate that is so beautiful

its so fucking sad that silesia went to poland...

>>137709885
Oh it's that pro-Merkel germ shill again.

>>137710592
It just means "leader".

>>137710852
It's also sad Berlin went to Turkey.

>>137710792
No i ment that east germans still used "Fuhrer" as in title, while in the west the entire word "leader" was ostracized.
>The leader and teacher of humanity in the struggle for peace, democracy and socialism

>>137710607
>Your country is a thinking ship
More like a thinking tank where you stole most of our tech from to evolve from the stone age into becoming a 2nd world nation.

I visited the GDR as young boy in the 80s
I was amazed at how it was different and everything seemed so natural, like people were normal and food tasted very good

>>137709264
>>137709144
>German apolgist
>Communist apologist
Fucking hell,
Maybe you want to find Baltic Germans and let them rule us again as well?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1CyPjQQTAM

just look at all these white people, disgusting

>>137711122
Im not an Communist apologist.
I say that east germany was less degenerate as western part and would have been better if it didn't reunify and stayed seperate, stupid Janis.

File: Roman_Cologne,_reconstruction.jpg (1MB, 2053x1113px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 2053x1113px

>>137711037
Come on Hans, where were you while the Romans were enjoying the fruits of civilization on the other side of the Rhine river ? Litteraly chimping out in the woods like Varg.

>>137711082
well the food is only different if youre from the fucking states

>>137711140
oј бpaтyнeeeeeee

oдaклeн cи ти

>>137710967
Oh I see, my bad. You're right about what you said, Führer has become a bad bad evil bad word nowadays here, but we're still coping. It's pretty common to use terms like "uncle Adolf" or "Mama Merkel", just to avoid to speak out the forbidden word.

And I also understand the irony about changing linguistic stuff. What's wrong with saying "Heil XXX" for instance? It's an ancient roman salute. Fucking kikes, they are not even satisfied with meddling with our culture, nope, they are destroying our language.

>>137709506
>"In the final analysis it would be better for us to end our existence under Bolshevism than to endure slavery under capitalism... I think it is terrible that we and the Communists are bashing in each other's heads."

>>137711332
What do you care for German well being?

>>137703757
>When did you realize West Germany was a mistake East Germany made so much more sense
1945.

>>137711486
thats the one

>>137711458
I'm German
The food was different from the west
Much less chemicals

>>137711478
Crnogorac brate

>>137703757

Every time we talk about the DDR, I was say the following: It should have stayed a separate state.

>>137711483
"Uncle Adolf" is may more controversial than "Führer".

>>137711509
Because i love and care for this continent and all native people who inhabit it.
Even krauts and slavs.

>>137711682
Yeah but west Germany wanted the cheap factories in the east. They bought them for cheap and made huge profits
It was the biggest thievery in history

>>137711635
that makes sense

the capitalists will always try to tell you food that they spent less money on, food of lesser quality full of chemicals sold for good money

as opposed to quality food for a decent amount of money

also why the fuck are you deus vult, are you 15
>>137711672
пa знaм дa cи цpнoгopaц тo видим, и јa вyчeм кopeнe из цpнe гope нeгo из кoг cи гpaдa

ниcaм ни знao дa пo цpнoј гopи имa пoл шитпocтepa

>>137711746
zem musu kajam bruder

File: ! ! ! BAD GOY.jpg (93KB, 360x549px) Image search: [Google]

93KB, 360x549px

>>137711140
Oy vey.
Where are all the mickey mouse hats and dildo strapons?!
Why isn't everyone nude and race mixing!?

>>137711809
I'm over 40

>>137711746
you wouldn't happen to have 2 latvian friends who went down to bulgaria this summer would you?

>>137711912
ik
im just curious why people still use that deus vult bullshit

>>137711919
no, but what?

>>137711403
Those woods were nice tho. What a shame those ancient trees don't exist anymore. Besides, the Romans had a fucking hard time to conquer this part of Europe, cut us some slack. For quite a while it was basically like the Vietnam war for the Roman Empire due to the terrain and the resistance.

>>137709264
Crazy to think about it that once there was a Germany which was ruled by Russia and they were brothers in arms

>>137711981
i saw 2 latvian dudes in bulgaria, sunny beach 2-3 weeks ago

we even went on the same bus from sunny beach to varna

the whole time i had to contain myself not to start singing zem musu kajam

in the end i didnt and now i feel sad

>>137711746
Slavs might care back,
Krauts won't.

East Germany was so good that they built a militarized border to make sure nobody would leave

>>137709511
You will never have a young blonde eastern wife from the GDR

But it's so... Soviet looking. Horrible aesthetic.

>>137712096
based.

>>137711973
I just chose a random flag, I don't really identify with

>>137711743
Not at all, another proof that you don't know shit about Germany. Everybody here uses that term unironically. You won't see it used on MSM or facebook, but EVERYBODY uses that term in private talks.

>>137712112
Surprisingly, Krauts have no sincere empathy for Europe and tend to be outright nihilists since two milleniums. French are lying, hipocrit and arrogant cunts, but Krauts look like the black hole of Europe.

>>137712228
so

let me guess

youre a 40something year old german

you got 1 or 2 kids and an ex wife

you have a very well paid job but theres not really a lot to do so you have a lot of free time

and you spend this free time shitposting on pol with the rest of us?

>>137712262
Hans, can you please be a bit more smart ? I'm saying that "Uncle Adolf" is objectively more controversial than "Führer", i'm not talking what Krauts think of it.

>>137711635
>>137711809
Uh huh.

The suggestion to cease coffee production, put forward by Alexander Schalck-Golodkowski was able to be avoided after Central Committee member Werner Lamberz encouraged barter trades and armament sales[10] with Third World countries, such as Ethiopia. The cheapest variety of coffee, "Kosta", was discontinued and only more expensive varieties were available.[11] Other alternatives, such as "Kaffee-Mix", a 50% mixture of genuine and ersatz coffee, but rationing was not required. The Kaffee-Mix was pejoratively referred to as "Erichs Krönung", a reference to Erich Honecker, leader of East Germany, and the West German Jacobs Krönung coffee brand. The East German government assumed that much of the population would acquire coffee from care packages from West German relatives. This increased the demand for the typical return gift, a Dresdner Stollen, which also caused difficulties in the East German economy, because many of the ingredients, such as almonds, raisins, and succade, were also only available as import goods. Alexander Schalck-Golodkowski's suggestion of a ban on gifting Stollen was unsuccessful.[12]

At least we had proper coffee here in the West.

>>137712639
what the fuck are you even doing here hirohito?

where did u even learn english

>>137705271
HAHAHAHAHAH KEK

>>137712712
coffee is then the only thing you had that was good
>>137712223
whats up in latvija?

File: 397026869af7c33fe8173ade84a6554fd93c5739.jpg (13KB, 316x421px) Image search: [Google]

13KB, 316x421px

>>137712149
Really activates your almonds, eh?

>>137712541
I'm married since I'm 20 yo. Got wonderful kids. And yes you will be here on this website forever, mark my words. It's the only place where you can vent your frustration while drinking a beer after work

>>137712792
As long as long as there's not DNA test to provide to write here, i'll be hanging around.

>>137703757
yes, everyone enjoys waiting in line all day for one loaf of bread and getting shot for trying to leave

i bet you're the type of faggot that waits in line all day for a new iphone, so to you it's no big deal

>>137712930
and when they implement DNA test you will still be around and half of Germany America and England wont be here

>>137712926
>I'm married since I'm 20 yo. Got wonderful kids. And yes you will be here on this website forever, mark my words. It's the only place where you can vent your frustration while drinking a beer after work

Then an austrian guy pops up and propose to transform Germany into a 4chan live project. Millions of Hans enjoy the idea and shit happens.

>>137712435
Anglos, French and Krauts are a bane.
They have an enduring arrogance about themselves no matter how many times they are put in their place

>>137712926
yeah i get you completely

so, if i may ask old man, which city are you from

im guessing something western:

frankfurt? munster? oldenburg? cologne?

or maybe even munich

>>137712930
are you legit even japanese or just larping

>>137703757
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWTFG3J1CP8

>>137713201
LARPer.
Japanese people don't know the term "boomer" as used in >>137710607

The tone of writing screams American. Nobody but yanks call Germans "Hans" like >>137711403

>>137713201
He's some Ossi who came to the West after the reunification and we gave him some bananas. Now he's obviously living from Neetbux with his alleged beautiful wife and his alleged beautiful kids because he's shitposting on 4chan in the middle of the day. And using a meme flag on top of that. Pathetic.

>>137713582
>>137713201
I'm a wessi and I shit post from work

>>137713472
Native Japanese are completely unable to learn to speak English at that level. English teacher from some western country or a tourist.

>>137713817
i knew it lol

>>137713820
I wouldn't go as far as saying "unable to learn to speak English at that level".
I know a born-and-bred Japanese guy who went to Texas or Tennessee for uni.
He came back American as fuck, speech, attitude, dress, the whole nine yards ( I lived in Japan at some point)

>>137713164

we are just better than you
deal with it

File: Feels_good_man.jpg (20KB, 329x357px) Image search: [Google]

20KB, 329x357px

>>137713817
And I shitpost from home while you work for my neetbux.

Just kidding my friend. I'm 44 and working on a new video game right now. Well, in the time I'm not getting stuck on /pol/ for half of the day. As you said, don't forget, you're here forever. But I do shitpost from my comfy home, fuck Angestelltenverhältnis. Been there, done that, for way too long.

>>137713998
Just bantz. But it has some truth to it, worked with some japs in an IT company, they couldn't speak German at all and only broken English. Still wonder why they ever hired those guys. They were barely able to write proper comments into the sourcecode, we had to remove the comments before selling the project to our customer. Some prejudices are kinda true. Never met an asian who could actually speak proper English or German in my life. Well at least not personally. That Jack Ma guy is great, Alibaba CEO. Watching interviews with him is a pleasure, perfect English, even on a higher level than mine, bet he studied in the states. Funny accent tho.

>>137714589
Otherwise you're 100% correct, the whole "Asians are smart" thing is a meme, especially with the Japanese. They hardly know anything that has little or no connection to Japan, they permanently live in their own Japanese bubble.

>>137715440
Well they are smart enough to be racist enough to not pollute their country with fugees. Multikulti doesn't work very well. If it's becoming too mixed, shit happens.

But sending kids to study abroad works wonders and helps humanity to advance as a whole; you gotta explore this planet to open your mind a litte, you know what I'm talking about? Don't live in your little bubble as you mentioned, learn a few secondary and tertiary languages, it's good for you. And I'm not addressing you my dear cheese head personally right now (although your folks somehow seems to be unable to make proper bread, but the cheese is fucking awesome). It's all about expanding your horizon, it helps a lot. Hope you understand my rant.

Do you study? What do you study?

>>137708899
>>137710360
So what's the deal with Silesia? Is it German, Polish, Czech? Why did the Reich lay claim to those lands? Obviously, there were Germans in some parts of the lands, like Danzig, or had occupied that land ancestrally. Who deserves it? I think that the person who can kill the other guy deserves it.

>>137703928

It looks like a standard conical commie hat.

Anyway OP, no, East Germany was the ultimate cuck state. They had soviet dick balls deep in their ass for all the world to see.

>>137716667
It was a German province until the end of WW2, except for a Polish minority in Upper Silesia. At the end of WW2 all of Europe east of the Oder and Neisse rivers got ethnically cleansed of Germans, so it's Polish now. As with all things, anyone who has the will and the power to take and hold it "deserves" it, i.e. at the moment Poland.

>>137717204
But ancestrally, wasn't it always a shift of power? So, sometimes Germans held onto it, then Poles, then other groups. That is to say that the territory was under competition. So why do Poles and other groups say that Germans have no real claim to that land and that Hitler was wrong for doing so? I agree with you on the will and power point, which is why I agree that the Soviets also controlled that land, too. It's irrelevant what I think or if it was moral: war is amoral and they did it anyways, that's conquest.
btw I don't think Poland had any power to control it, it was given to them. They were defeated within a month or so.

>>137717506
IIRC large parts of the province were depopulated in the Middle Ages due to plague and Mongol invasion so there was a significant population shift. Not that it matters today.

Poles are chauvinistic as fuck and claim that they own everything forever because it was proud polish heartland 10000 years ago. You can't take them seriously.

Also yeah Polacks got it from the Soviets as "repayment" for annexing Galicia.

>>137718020
>Poles are chauvinistic as fuck and claim that they own everything forever because it was proud polish heartland 10000 years ago. You can't take them seriously.
That's one of my gripes, though. The same way they earned the land and came to conquer and defend it, so, too, have other groups done the same to them. What's the issue with that? I'm reminded of the following scene with the conquest of the New World.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1y_0NfhF9c

>>137718217
I used to get angry as fuck at their bullshit when I was younger, but am pretty much resigned and nihilistic now. Because modern Germans are so cucked, they wouldn't want the land back even if you offered it to them.

>>137718020
im serbian, slavic

i love poland and poles
but i have to admit that they really are fucking chauvinistic as fuck

''muh polish kingdom was on the oder river a 1000 years ago and we held breslau for some 50 years 500 years ago so it is rightful polish land''

they want to hear nothing
thats like the bulgarians saying that they held eastern serbia 1000 years ago and it is now rightfully theirs

bloody nonsense it is

silesia is german! also, i noticed that they got a few cities on the other side of the oder river like stettin and swinouscje

fucking poles always taking what doesnt belong to them

>>137718428
That's a whole different can of worms. I am of the belief that there will either be a great revival of ultranationalist ideals and a pan-European brotherhood to protect the lands, or the old adage of the frog slowly boiling in the ever-warming water will be fulfilled. Good goys will start to realize they are boiling to death and will be lulled into passivity with tales of diversity and threats of "-isms".

Personally, the Poles I've seen here have been quite odd and embedded with a victim complex. It seems hypocritical to argue from a historical framework that "we were here first", but when I point out that they conquered land, just as they are being conquered now (or were), it's just "well, we didn't deserve it, x, y, z".

>>137718680
Yeah, I just googled it now.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silesia#History
>In the fourth century BC, Celts entered Silesia, settling around Mount Ślęża near modern Wrocław, Oława, and Strzelin
Looks like those Celts have everyone beat.

>>137704121

lol is he goosestepping in that pic? Most retarded marching style ever.

File: 1423241820993.jpg (121KB, 550x770px) Image search: [Google]

121KB, 550x770px

>>137718680
You are the most bro-tier Serb I've ever met, famalam. Shame about the whole Yugoslav war business.

>>137718680
More recently they've been extending their claims to the Elbe because of the Polabian Slavs who lived there for a few centuries in the Middle Ages. Some are even convinced that East Germans are actually just Germanised Slavs, since they like to downplay just how extensive eastward German migration was.

>>137716660
Exactly, I have only become more authoritarian and conservative because of my "worldly experiences" (aka interaction with nonwhites).

And yes our bread sucks, our cuisine in general sucks. We're but simple farmers that managed to own a trading empire at some point.

>>137718751
they suffer from an eternal victim complex

for example: the polish state was recreated after ww1 out of nothing

they had no state, no army, no administration
NOTHING

and they still got so much land it was fucking unbelievable, half of pre 1939 poland was not polish at all, one of the largest european countries with massive possibilities for greatness and development

wilno, grodno, lwow and all of their greatest eastern cities, now in lithuania, belarus and ukraine were theirs and they even made problems when ukranians came to study in lwow, they dictated everything and what did they do?

in the end that bloody idiot Jozef Beck refused to deal with the Germans and Rydz Smigly dicked around too much, they started killing thousands of Germans in Poland (Bromberg massacres) and they figured Germany would just sit there and watch

but Germany didnt just sit there and watch
Germany wasnt the Soviet Union and they beat them to a pulp, cutting their lands down emensely

they always have a victim complex:
''boo hoo the evil germans and evil commies invaded us we didnt deserve it''

yes you fucking did, half of poland today isnt even fucking polish to begin with

i mean what should we serbs say? we've been under the turks for 500 years, we didnt complain, we fought them back, the spanish were under the moors for 800 years and beat them back, the poles had their state destoryed for a 100 years and they wont stop shitting on about it

>>137719046
dont be, serbs and croats hated yugoslavia, yugoslavia was a mixed ethnicity country and as such failed from the start, what is sad is that the commies wrote down borders which werent ethnic which led to the wars

>>137719068
they can suck my dick
take a look at a map of the europe from 1910 and modern day europe and check how much of modern day poland used to be german

the easter germans have a lot of slavic genes its true, but poles forget that half of their genes are germanic in origin

>>137719387
>for example: the polish state was recreated after ww1 out of nothing
Yeah, I never got that. How can you be so ultranationalist if you rely on others to do shit for you and give you territory back, and then some.
>and they still got so much land it was fucking unbelievable, half of pre 1939 poland was not polish at all
Yeah, I was reading up on it and all the 'unbiased plebiscites'. Here's one point.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_evolution_of_Poland#1921
>In late 1921 a border adjustment between the Weimar Republic and Poland took place as a result of the Silesian Uprisings. The uprising were a series of three armed rebellions that took place between 1919 and 1921 by the Polish people in the Upper Silesia region against the Weimar Republic. The Polish people of the region wanted to join the Second Polish Republic, which had been established following World War I. The 1919 Treaty of Versailles had called for a plebiscite in Upper Silesia in 1921 to determine whether the territory should be a part of Germany or Poland.

>The plebiscite took place on March 20, 1921, two days after the signing of the Treaty of Riga, which ended the Polish–Soviet War. In the plebiscite, 707,605 votes were cast for Germany, and 479,359 for Poland. The Germans had a majority, by 228,246 votes. In late April 1921, rumours flew that Upper Silesia would stay in Germany. This led to the Third Polish Uprising in May–July 1921. The question of the Upper Silesia problem was turned over to a council of the League of Nations. The commission, consisting of four representatives—one each from Belgium, Brazil, Spain, and China. The commission gathered its own data, interviewing Poles and Germans from the region. On the basis of the reports of this commission and those of its experts, on October 1921 the Council awarded the greater part of the Upper Silesian industrial district to Poland

>>137719688
>>137719387

To add on that, it seems pretty undemocratic seeing as how more Germans lived there than Poles.
btw, on this point here: in the end that bloody idiot Jozef Beck refused to deal with the Germans and Rydz Smigly dicked around too much, they started killing thousands of Germans in Poland (Bromberg massacres) and they figured Germany would just sit there and watch
There is a lot of debate on the specifics. For example, according to: http://members.iinet.net.au/~gduncan/massacres_east.html#Poland.
>Between September 4 and September 8, 1939, in the communities of Eichdorf, Hopfengarten and Narzheim nearBromberg the polish soldiers began an orgy of murder and rape that is beyond belief. German houses were entered and the occupants arrested and then murdered. Not all were shot, many were brutally put to death by all sorts of tools and their bodies severely mutilated. As the soldiers left to search for more German houses, their civilian helpers were left behind to plunder and steal and in most cases, to set the house on fire. Many of the German women were raped before being shot. During this retreat from the west, the Polish soldiers, together with the communist civilian irregulars, were responsible for the deaths of many thousands of German residents. At a later investigation, the testimonies of 593 witnesses established the fact that at least 3,841 named ethnic Germans were murdered by the Poles prior to the full German occupation. These revenge murders were carried out as early as April, 1939 in the Polish Corridor. In September, 1939 these Volksdeutsche formed themselves into Self-Protection units known as Selbschutz and came under the control of the SS and later under the Ordungspolizei (Order Police). The infamous reputation that it earned caused it to be disbanded on 30th of November, 1939. These massacres were one of the causes that gave Hitler the excuse to invade.

File: polska.png (36KB, 318x268px) Image search: [Google]

36KB, 318x268px

>>137719688
they had a series of border clashes with the german state after ww1 and tried grabbing land left and right

they thought they can fuck with the germans

look its like this: i love the poles, theyre my brothers but i can never support their bullshit claims over german lands and their abuse of the german populations

they seized land in lithuania as well, this is just one example

the region of upper silesia from the wiki article is this here

also they were given all of western prussia without the fucking basis for it at all

>To add on that, it seems pretty undemocratic seeing as how more Germans lived there than Poles.

of course it was undemocratic and there were more germans but the poles didnt fucking care they took it anyway, they thought they could strongarm germany forever and they got their shit pushed in

>>137719924
Richard Tedor also has a book, the name of which escapes me, talking about the issues. There were clashes and attacks between Poles and Germans both before and after the invasion, the more severe of which occurred after. The figure was around 5k, but it was ramped up ten-fold by German propaganda. It still happened, though, but that wasn't the only reason for invasion. It was mainly the Treaty w/ lebensraum and feelings of unjust treatment after the war. With that plebiscite I cited, that seems unfair to me.

>>137720133
Yeah, I'm completely unaware of Polish territorial disputes in the Baltic and the Eastern regions. Didn't know they had any.

File: 1502872656143.jpg (322KB, 736x1084px) Image search: [Google]

322KB, 736x1084px

>>137704121

File: polska map.jpg (618KB, 1000x800px) Image search: [Google]

618KB, 1000x800px

>>137720314
theyre the biggest ''we wuz'' in the region

check this out yall

the red region is the only true polish region

>>137705271
A marvel of engineering, truly.

File: 1940 selfie.jpg (47KB, 566x845px) Image search: [Google]

47KB, 566x845px

>>137719046
yo dude you got an old email for contact or some skype or some shit

>>137720577
At least those didn't have planned obsolescence, burger. And no fake electronics which hide the CO2 exhaustion when tested. The cars were fragile, but that's because they were built to be as cheap as fuck.

> burger education, still thinking fuck yeaaa murrica is the best

Ford fucked up, and you aren't able to admit that. But hey yippie yeah ho, hooray capitalism.

File: dampfauto 2.jpg (180KB, 950x713px) Image search: [Google]

180KB, 950x713px

Fuck you, German cars, best cars.

>>137716667
>Is it German, Polish, Czech?
Polish->Czech->German->Polish

or something like that

File: blitz_benis.jpg (46KB, 540x657px) Image search: [Google]

46KB, 540x657px

>>137703757
East Germany was cucked by communism. West Germany was cucked by (((cultural marxism))). Even though communism is pure cancer I think we can EASILY compare how much each of these ideologies destroyed Germany.

>>137720509
>the red region is the only true polish region
add to that Posen and middle Pomerania, which unsurprisingly, still holds a big mass attendance rate, like many "core" polish lands

>>137722509
I was just curios, so I googled it, actually.
Here:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silesia#History
>In the fourth century BC, Celts entered Silesia, settling around Mount Ślęża near modern Wrocław, Oława, and Strzelin
Looks like those Celts have everyone beat.

File: hitler-getty.jpg (1MB, 2048x1536px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 2048x1536px

>>137722531
Still kinda better than be cucked by the jews as much as you.

>>137722755
im so envious of you germans that you had a man such as mister Hitler

fuck man

>>137722704
posen i would understand but pommerania? never

go back to playing witcher 3 Bartek

File: 435.jpg (291KB, 983x1387px) Image search: [Google]

291KB, 983x1387px

Nice posters

>>137722934
I meant middle Pomerania - between Prussia and western Pomerania with Stettin etc.

>>137722704
Yeah, Pomerania is up in the air, too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pomerania#History
>Settlement in the area called Pomerania for the last 1,000 years started by the end of the Vistula Glacial Stage, some 13,000 years ago.[7] Archeological traces have been found of various cultures during the Stone and Bronze Age, Baltic peoples, Germanic peoples and Veneti during the Iron Age and, in the Middle Ages, Slavic tribes and Vikings.[8][9][10][7][11][12][13] Starting in the 10th century, early Polish dukes on several occasions subdued parts of the region from the southeast, while the Holy Roman Empire and Denmark augmented their territory from the west and north.[14][15][16][17][18][19][20]

On Posen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Pozna%C5%84
>Various other settlements sprang up nearby on the islands and on both banks of the Warta. In the 10th century the tribe inhabiting the region, the Polans, became dominant over other tribes in most of the area of today's Poland. Consequently this early Polish state, ruled by Duke Mieszko I and his successors in the Piast dynasty, was centred politically on Poznań and the neighbouring Polan strongholds, particularly Gniezno and Giecz. Archaeological research shows that in the late 10th century Poznań had a ducal palace (where the Church of Our Lady now stands, opposite the cathedral), with a chapel, possibly built for Mieszko's Christian wife Dobrawa.
History repeats itself and other 'tribes' (now nations) do the same as the Poles did to the competitive tribes.

>>137723219
dude stettin is as german as it gets
fucking denmark and sweden have better claims to that land than polska brate

File: oder niesse.jpg (129KB, 793x1115px) Image search: [Google]

129KB, 793x1115px

Daily Reminder that Merkels conservative party in West Germany was always opposed to the Oder-Niesse border and advocated for bringing Vorpommern and Schlesierland back into Deutschland.

The difference between this party then and now is astounding. Isn't it?

>>137723219
Pomerelia?

>>137720410
frog eatin' bat

>>137723504
Slowly, but surely. Germs have been on the rise after rebuilding our country after WWII.

>>137710483
Ultimate fucking cuck state.

Can't imagine the fucking turncoating it had to happen for Germans to accept Communism when only a month before they were sending men on Eastern Front to kill Communists. It's cognitive dissonance state, no wonder it fucking blew up after 40 years.

How fat of a cheek you must have to wear swastikas one day, and week after write poems to Soviets about liberation from Fascism? And not only knowing that Soviet are same as Nazis, but after raping and murdering your people? Holy fucking shit, I wonder if any East Germans were even German at all, and not some fucking deserter faggots and literal Communists?

That's some insane statewide Stockholm syndrome going on.

Still better than West Germany though...

File: Racist.png (2MB, 596x1998px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 596x1998px

>>137703757
Nothing wrong with democracy, it's the abuse of freedom that causes degeneracy. Being silent about the IQ & race facts leads to degradation of civilization

File: f7e88f1988f5f75b5be4d67ab5a386cd--nazi-propaganda-ww-posters.jpg (253KB, 736x1115px) Image search: [Google]

253KB, 736x1115px

>>137723742
Hopefully the Germans will give a few more slaps to the Polish in the future and reclaim their lost lands in the process.

>>137723766
It only proves that people can be brainwashed to believe anything.

>>137723862
What we really seek is a Great European Empire. The Poles can join if they want, but currently they are bitching around due to indoctrination. We leave them do that, nowadays this kind of stuff isn't realized with invading other countries but with sanctions and coertion.

File: german-helmets-ww2.png (3MB, 1200x2140px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 1200x2140px

>>137703841
Hitler thought so too.

File: 2543151edb473e97f30a41b30272e2ea.jpg (185KB, 736x996px) Image search: [Google]

185KB, 736x996px

>>137708748
>>137708899
>>137709116
>>137710122
>>137710360
>>137710852
>>137716667
>>137717204
>>137718680
>>137719009
>>137719688
Never4get.

>>137724382
so? lots of poles and germans fought for both german and polish dynasties

File: PIDF.jpg (2MB, 1496x3724px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1496x3724px

>>137724382

File: 2014.txt.jpg (235KB, 857x1024px) Image search: [Google]

235KB, 857x1024px

>>137724429
>both german and polish dynasties
???
Polish Silesian Piasts ruled Silesia for around 600 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silesian_Piasts

File: 327px-Henryk_IV_Probus_tomb_effigy.png (531KB, 327x767px) Image search: [Google]

531KB, 327x767px

>>137724688

File: 367px-Bolko_I_Surowy_tomb_effigy.png (528KB, 367x766px) Image search: [Google]

528KB, 367x766px

>>137724756

>>137724688
and before that it was german, and after that

btw the piasts were for the most part subjects of the bohemian crown, which was ruled by a german emperor 90% of the time and was also part of the HRE which was german as well

File: 331591.jpg (228KB, 1200x807px) Image search: [Google]

228KB, 1200x807px

>>137724785
There is a reason why the Nazis destroyed pic rel.

File: 241995.jpg (173KB, 999x638px) Image search: [Google]

173KB, 999x638px

>>137724827
>and before that it was german, and after that
No it was not you retard. Silesia was first Slavic (Polish -> Bohemian -> Polish -> Bohemian ->Polish -> Bohemian) for like 600+ years, until the Austrians and later the Prussians/Germans took control.

The oldest buildings like castles and churches in Silesia were build by the Bohemians and mostly Polish Piasts like pic rel in Wroclaw aka VratiSLAV.

>>137703757
East Germany was the best national socialism. No immigration, emigration, faggots, trannies, drugs or porn. Everybody was highly patriotic. Unlike the cucks in West Germany.

File: 54646.jpg (295KB, 715x1024px) Image search: [Google]

295KB, 715x1024px

Never forget Dresden

File: 130143.jpg (294KB, 1595x825px) Image search: [Google]

294KB, 1595x825px

>>137725120
Castle of the Silesian Piasts (Polish dynasty) in Wroclaw.

File: 669px-Brzeg(js)3.jpg (251KB, 669x1024px) Image search: [Google]

251KB, 669x1024px

>>137725204

File: Brzeg_Zamek_Piastow_9.jpg (232KB, 1280x680px) Image search: [Google]

232KB, 1280x680px

>>137725247

File: Georg_Wilhelm_of_Liegnitz_Brieg_medal_1675_rev.jpg (388KB, 1099x1074px) Image search: [Google]

388KB, 1099x1074px

>>137725295
Reproduction of the funeral medal by Jerzy Wilhelm Legnicki in Legnica with the inscription
>"PIASTI ET NARCH POLONI ULTIMUS NEPOS PRINCEPS"
>"The last descendant of the Piasts, rulers of Poland"

File: 600x436Pre_Migration_Age_Germanic.png (92KB, 600x436px) Image search: [Google]

92KB, 600x436px

>>137725120
The whole of the Polish region today as well as Silesia was inhabited by Germanic tribes when the Slavic tribes were not even near Silesia. The population of Silesia was primarily always German, though sizable Polish and Czech populations existed.

Notice Silesia on the map.

>>137725120
Except that it wasn't. Stop making shit up, if they were any Poles living there, the entire population wouldn't haven been driven out dipshit. Only a small minority in the lower populated parts of Silesia was actually Polish.

File: 0.jpg (129KB, 667x1000px) Image search: [Google]

129KB, 667x1000px

>>137725452
Cathedral built by Polish Piasts in Wroclaw.

P.S. Funny how most idiotic Germanboos and neo-Nazis itt would link this Polish Catholic cathedral with "German culture".

>>137706082

The fucking rice fields helmet ruins it all though.

>>137725571
See >>137724567
This guy has double standards for everything. If it was once Polish, then it was always Polish, regardless of if it was once German as well.

>>137725120
Breslau, as the Poles call it Wroclaw was a settlement built by Celts and taken over by Germanic tribes and later by Slavic tribes and from there it went back and forth.

>>137725702
The butthurt Poles listen to no reason at all.

Nobody is saying that it was never Polish and that there was never any Polish architecture there. We are saying that they were primarily Germans ruled over by a Polish dynasty during the middle ages, but the Piasts were servants of the von Luxembourgs from Bohemia who were Germans and part of the HRE, not part of Poland.

Fun fact:
Breslau never actually fell to Soviet Troops during WW2. Only after the capitulation did they surrender it to the Polish government and the German population were literally kicked out completely, millions of people.

>>137703757
when did you realised you are communist cuck

File: Deutsche_Ostsiedlung.png (354KB, 1181x1575px) Image search: [Google]

354KB, 1181x1575px

>>137725702
>Except that it wasn't. Stop making shit up, if they were any Poles living there,
POLES LIVED THERE, Poles and Bohemians were the original Silesians. Slavs were the original Silesians. Germans only started to settle there during the Ostsiedlung because Polish rulers allowed German to settle there for commerce. Allowing Ostsiedlung in Poland for centuries was a mistake apparently because centuries later Germans started to grow, Slavs were still the majority in Silesia in the 17th century by the way. Things started to change between the 17-18 centuries. Germans started settling in Wroclaw for example first in the 1200's and weren't the majority until the end of the 17th century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostsiedlung

>>137726074
when did you realize you are a disgusting jew

>>137724688
Polish slavshits came in the 7th century.
Germans were there before Latium.

File: Ptolemy's Germania.jpg (319KB, 1024x736px) Image search: [Google]

319KB, 1024x736px

>>137725571

>>137726243
>>137726123
he forgets that the original polish kingdom fought the germanic tribes over silesia and pommerania from the beginning and that the population there from the beginning was germanic, only later was it slightly slavinized

>>137724382
But that doesn't actually respond to the posts I made. Just linking what everybody said, then not even addressing the points, isn't conducive if you want to have a historical debate.

>>137726138
Kikes feared the STASI hence his butthurt he just wants to keep getting free uboats from Blohm +Voss

File: vandals.png (390KB, 1280x891px) Image search: [Google]

390KB, 1280x891px

>>137726123
What the fuck are you talking about mate?

Germanic Vandals were the OG Silesians. Slavs only started to settle there during the Migration Period because the Vandals migrated towards the Roman Empire.

File: 282e85a77f1c2ffc68d925b590b57b78.jpg (182KB, 1024x971px) Image search: [Google]

182KB, 1024x971px

>>137726364
>eginning was germanic, only later was it slightly slavinized
You you liar, it was Slavic. And modern genetics research proves that.

>>137725120
That was literally one of the posts you linked to here: >>137724382

This was my post: >>137719009
It literally shows that in the fourth century BC, Celts were the "first" there, as if that means anything. Did you even read the post you linked to? Because what you're parroting now has already been debunked.

File: silesia.png (39KB, 295x486px) Image search: [Google]

39KB, 295x486px

>>137726323
Ptolemy was from Egypt.
Modern genealogy show that Germanic tribes were settled mostly in what is now Poland.

50% of Polish Haplogroups are of Germanic origin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanic_peoples

>>137726502
You're a bloody idiot.
>>137726473
I told you guys it's like talking to a wall.

I'm Slavic myself

>>137726502
That's not what your image shows. You just linked to an unsourced post simply stating that parts of Eastern Europe are Slavic. Yes, and? Your own map still has 'Khazars'. If you care so much about "genetics", examine that hypothesis for a moment.

File: Celts.jpg (24KB, 463x354px) Image search: [Google]

24KB, 463x354px

>>137726473
Ummm wtf? No, Silesia is CELTIC land. Germanics only migrated there following their expansion during antiquity. Silesian Vandals are Germanicised Celts, genetics prove it! Fucking Vandals, return us our rightful Celtic clay!

>>137726502
This map shows the settlement of Slavs in regions, not the majority populations.

Not everywhere the Poles ever step foot on is rightful Polish land.

For fucks sake, if that were true we Serbs would lay claim to half of Bulgaria and 70% of Greece.

>>137726447
>Kikes feared the STASI
Kikes were part of the fucking Stasi and now try to create a communist hellhole.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anetta_Kahane

>>137726751
And before that, there were trees there first! Whoever lived there for a few generations has rightful claim and if they are defeated in battle or pushed out, well that's just mean and unfair because...

>>137703757

>when you build a wall to keep people in your country

>>137726793
Erich Mielke would have purged them

File: neolithic.png (165KB, 700x600px) Image search: [Google]

165KB, 700x600px

>>137726751
Celts are subhuman Indo-European invaders. I will not rest until the noble Stroked Pottery peoples have their land returned to them.

File: 1502889436628.png (32KB, 642x591px) Image search: [Google]

32KB, 642x591px

>>137726966
They worked together all along.

>>137727261
Do you know what a haplogroup is? Can you define what a haplogroup is? If you're looking to examine genetic distance, a haplogroup is literally only your maternal or paternal ancestry. It's not even close to the full story.

>>137725915
this. that helmet.

File: early_bronze_age_europe.gif (94KB, 720x800px) Image search: [Google]

94KB, 720x800px

>>137726364
>>137726435
>>137726473
>>137726581
>>137726650
>>137726761
Except modern DNA research show a different thing. That the ancestors of Slavs have been in Europe on these lands for a very long time.

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1a_Y-DNA.shtml#Slavic

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corded_Ware_culture

Germanic propaganda of the 19th century about the Slavs is started to getting pushed out in the DNA academic fields. It's a good timeline desu.

>>137727385
Retard, READ.
http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_R1a_Y-DNA.shtml#Slavic

>>137727261
My God you AUTIST.

Slavs are descendents of CWC, but that does not make CWC Slavic. CWC peoples would have spoken PIE and not any Slavic or even Proto-Slavic language. R1a is NOT Slavic, it merely peaks in Slavic populations. R1a was brought as far as the Rhine and Scandinavia by CWC, not by Slavs. R1a is a CWC indicator, not only a Slavic indicator.

>the ancestors of Slavs have been in Europe on these lands for a very long time.
Yes, but these peoples are also the ancestors of many other peoples, including Germanics.

File: warsaw pact.jpg (849KB, 960x822px) Image search: [Google]

849KB, 960x822px

>Haplogroups
Is this old school /int/?

>>137727487
Again, define a haplogroup. You don't know what it actually means because you wouldn't be using it for such an analysis.

>>137727441
>>137727532
Oh and just to make it extra clear, R1a had existed in Germany/Central Europe for thousands of years prior to the Slavic expansions.

>>137726323
what are those turds on the map for ?
is that the earliest shitposting on germany.

>>137709566
hnnnggg

>>137727532
>but that does not make CWC Slavic.
I didn't say that fucktard.
>R1a is NOT Slavic,
Jesus Christ... The M458, CTS1211 and Z92 are proto-Slavic.

File: warsawpact 2.jpg (57KB, 659x469px) Image search: [Google]

57KB, 659x469px

we wuz slavs and shiet`?

File: 1467743318699.png (226KB, 1011x734px) Image search: [Google]

226KB, 1011x734px

>>137719068
>Some are even convinced that East Germans are actually just Germanised Slavs,
But DNA research proves this.

File: GLL0M9y.png (854KB, 986x1118px) Image search: [Google]

854KB, 986x1118px

>>137728309

File: 1495968822509.jpg (745KB, 1738x1736px) Image search: [Google]

745KB, 1738x1736px

>>137728309
>>137728374
Stop posting this shitty study you fucking moron.
I could post countless examples where in terms of haplogroups East Germans are barely distinguishable from other Germans. Pic related, btw.

File: fackelzug2.jpg (37KB, 500x400px) Image search: [Google]

37KB, 500x400px

East Germany is best Germany!

A wall.
Atheism.
No Islam.

>>137728374
>>137728309
Define haplogroup. Do you know what "DNA research" is?
On the topic of race denialism in regards to 'haplogroups' and the continuum fallacy.
>http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Race#Arbitrary_definitions
>Map showing the geographical distribution of the most common Y-chromosome haplogroup in pre-colonial populations. It has been used as an argument against the existence of races with the argument that the different areas do not correspond to the traditional races. Sometimes other maps showing the distribution of other characteristics are used to make similar argument (such as maps showing the distribution of the sickle-cell genetic trait or maps showing the distribution of blood groups). However, such arguments rely on the "essentialist" straw man definition of race.
The map in the link is just like the one you link.

>>137728309
Truth to be told, part of the slavs are slavicised germans.
Also, Ukraine, Italy, Spain had Goths, France Franks (in the north) and Swabians were all over the place.

>>137728138
You think the Warsaw Pact was all Slavic?

File: Bezbozhnik_u_stanka_22-1929.jpg (834KB, 2005x2869px) Image search: [Google]

834KB, 2005x2869px

>>137728606
DDR didn't ban religion though nevertheless Soviets produced some brutal posters

File: haploshit1.png (1008KB, 1027x834px) Image search: [Google]

1008KB, 1027x834px

>we wuz east germans n shit!!!!
FUCK OFF. Take a look at this map you delusional ignorant fuck.

>>137728530
>12873612863 spots to define Italy properly
It never fails to amuse me

File: haploshit2.png (803KB, 743x764px) Image search: [Google]

803KB, 743x764px

>>137728784

File: W-Fig7.jpg (1MB, 1159x1598px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1159x1598px

>>137728756

>>137703757
Gonna give the most accurate depiction of East Germany, "Freedom has many difficulties, and democracy is not perfect, but we have never had to put a wall up to keep our people in." - JFK.

Fuck East Germany all it did was lead Germany down a road of self hate and leftism which is why they're fucked today.

File: W-Fig1.jpg (598KB, 2149x714px) Image search: [Google]

598KB, 2149x714px

>>137728963

Sorry for the outburst. It's incredibly frustrating dealing with retarded diaspora.

File: european_union_caliphate__occupation__flag__by_caciquecaribe-d9z1yjc.png.jpg (13KB, 525x350px) Image search: [Google]

13KB, 525x350px

>>137729036
No, Germany is fucked because of the Federal Republic of Germany.

File: 6enpso.png (83KB, 1228x1328px) Image search: [Google]

83KB, 1228x1328px

>>137728784
Top kek, you living in eastern Germany?

File: deutsche-an-einen-tisch_foto_LEMO-F-7-062_barch.jpg (179KB, 1280x847px) Image search: [Google]

179KB, 1280x847px

>>137729036
>Fuck East Germany all it did was lead Germany down a road of self hate

Except it's the East which the most patriotic.

>>137729321
Germany's been going down a spiral of Anti-Nationalism every since the Soviets took over and force fed them propaganda on how evil they were. West Germany did the same thing just not as bad and as hard go ahead and look at which parts of Germany are imperialistic views and which side has more conservative and nationalistic views.

>>137729479
Not saying the people weren't however the East German Educational System developed by the Soviets was an extremely anti-nationalistic scheme that pushed their culture down and only gave "The Workers Revolution" stew in return.

comfy thread, was born in east Germany but live in the west since 20 years. the americanisation really destroyed everything and its pure degeneracy here. Im looking forward to moving back.

File: Druzhba_USSR_4.jpg (58KB, 591x315px) Image search: [Google]

58KB, 591x315px

>>137729758
WRONG!
Soviets promoted inter-nationalism. not anti-nationalism.

>>137729329
Terrible image, the difference in R1a frequency between southern East Germany and northern East Germany is not that significant. It's quite uniform in an east-west gradient (reflecting the expansion of CWC westwards) and if anything R1a is more frequent around Mecklenburg/Pomerania than it is in Saxony which is supposedly the most R1a.

>>137729758
you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. the school system in east germany was wastly superior to the wests.
your denazification programs is what destroyed west germany.

File: DEU_NDPD_Logo.svg.png (116KB, 1200x1005px) Image search: [Google]

116KB, 1200x1005px

>>137729758
>let me tell you about your country

Complete utter rubbish Soviets considered Germany a victim of Hitler and promoted instead historical German figures such as The leaders of the German Peasants Rebellion,Gerhard von Scharnhorst etc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Democratic_Party_of_Germany_(East_Germany)

File: Florian Geyer.jpg (1MB, 2782x3000px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 2782x3000px

Florian Geyer was also celebrated in the DDR

>>137703757
>When did you realize.......
Your question is formulated incorrectly, it should read: "In my opinion West Germany was a mistake East Germany made so much more sense, what is your opinion ?"

File: Screenshot_20170805-084748.jpg (634KB, 1440x1902px) Image search: [Google]

634KB, 1440x1902px

>>137704121

File: 1484596669582.png (688KB, 504x750px) Image search: [Google]

688KB, 504x750px

>>137703757
kid I sat on OP Alpha in the last hours of The Wall. The wall had a minefield on the INSIDE of a Fence(where I was) which had the top of the fence face INWARD to keep the German people INSIDE. When the wall came down, it looked like the entire country was flooding WEST. The BRD gave the Osties(East Germans) 100DM when they came over. Ya know what they bought with that? AMERICAN ice cream and AMERICAN jeans because they were so happy to finally be free of COMMUNISM.

File: DDR Gaddafi.jpg (99KB, 940x470px) Image search: [Google]

99KB, 940x470px

>>137731050
Well he fucking warned you didn't he Italy?

>>137731182
> Ya know what they bought with that? AMERICAN ice cream
Yeah it's real shame they replaced real with food with processed trash.

>>137704774
If you look at what we had in 1939 I feel so bad thinking about what could be had. Why start war if a para bellum policy is enough?

>not seeing nuclear fission coming

I know /pol/ doesn't like this but Hitler was dumb as fuck and everybody is worse off now.

Was East Germany that bad? It looked cool.

It made so much sense, thy had to build barb wired high walls to keep people in with armed guards who would shoot to kill potential escapees. Yup it was amazing, why did it fail I wonder?
Fucking SAGE

>>137703757

That's not east germany to begin with.

>>137703757

I made the same realization too OP. It was right after I got a big knock on the head, and suddenly this book on capitalism that I was reading at the time made no sense to me. I visited my local GP and he said I had lost over 20 IQ points due to sever brain damage from my head being hit really hard. It was at this point that I realized east Germany made more sense than west Germany.

Could DDR be the only acceptable socialist state? It was basically a "Third Reich lite".

>>137733629
Gomulka did nothing wrong during his Anti Zionist campaign

>>137733777
Dunno, desu. He supported the repression of the Church and the whole 1968 thing, though.

Also, sources on his Anti Zionist campaign?

>>137734113
Plentiful sources proper academic sources are available but here have kikes being whiny kikes, also Romania's Ceausescu sold jews by the head to Israel so he out jewed the jews truly quite the accomplishment


http://fathomjournal.org/communists-against-jews-the-anti-zionist-campaign-in-poland-in-1968/

>>137734455
Thank you. While I don't agree with the whole (((communist))) and (((socialist))) ideologies themselves, I have to say that states like DDR managed to keep a certain traditional heritage, it somewhat kept an identity unlike West Germany who turned into a total degenerate country.

>>137734455
Also Slansky Trial in the Czechoslovak Socialist Republic

Here have more whiny jews
http://fathomjournal.org/undeclared-wars-on-israel-east-germany-and-the-west-german-far-left-1967-1981-an-interview-with-jeffrey-herf/

File: 1501881244620.png (434KB, 1186x889px) Image search: [Google]

434KB, 1186x889px

>>137703757
Germany as a whole was a mistake.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ztOV2wrrkY

>>137735789
>Kaiser WIlhelm II
>Started WW1
The Kaiser was literally autism combined with Oedipus complex but WW1 he did not start.

>>137735230
West Germany was a product of the rootless cosmopolitan the whole point is to create a clueless mass whose only life goals are to consume low quality mass produced goods.

>>137735789
Has the shill responded to his misuse/conflation of haplogroups and the Celtic territorial claim overriding the Polish one, or is it just the same bigotry that he denounces when it is against Polish history?

>>137735230
>whole (((communist))) and (((socialist))) ideologies themselves,
You have to understand nobody took communism serious in eastern block by ~1970s. It was just a meme, leaders pretend they believe what they preach, people pretend to buy it.

As some guy put it, in 1950 god was in Moscow, in 1970 there was no god, in 1990 god was in Washington.