The Time for Memes are Over; How to fix the Right

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>>137698062
>Part 2

>Civic Nationalism isn't our enemy, per-se
We need to make the distintion between Metiocractic Civic Nationalism (Classical Fascism), and Egailtarian Civic Nationalism (The Establishment). Not all Civic Nationalism is a part of the Jew's tricks, unless you are willing to argue that all branches branches, excluding National Socialism, are so. The Jew does not care for non-whites any more than they do whites, they are mere gentiles to them. We hate on our fellow gentiles a lot, sometimes even more so than the Jews, when they are just as much abused as we are, just less noticably so. I am not saying that we treat all blacks and latinos as equals, that would be falling down the hole of egailitarianism. We shouldn't even treat our fellow whites as equals, which is a hole many "National Socialists" have fallen down; mere egailitarianism just within a smaller unit of people. We should accept successful people, regardless of race, and welcome them with open arms. They can teach their people the value of success, so they can breed success. For without a strong stock of gentiles under one banner, who will stop the Jew?

>>137698062
Agreed 100%, this is how /pol/ will win, the events of the last few days should be a wakeup call to the nazi larper shills here that they're not welcome. They're counter-productive to our Trump movement. They cause nothing but problems.

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>>137698193
>Part 3

>Learn the difference between respecting demographics and being an Ethnic Nationalist
You do not have to be an Ethnic Nationalist to care about ones nation people, both such nationalists and civies need to understand. Mussolini did not care about race, but he sure as hell would have wanted Italy to stay Italian. We should select acceptable stock from different nation, while respecting our own people, and other nations should do the same. This is already the case in places like Japan. This form of immigration is not only peaceful, it's racially realistic. Nothing shows hostility like barring people from a nation from entering yours, even when it's good people. It is no longer respect for demografics, it's hatred. For within, minorities should stay minorities. Ethno-nationalists are right when they say the smaller the group, the more peaceful they are. This is undeniable fact. It is even better when this group is fulled of good docters and workers that support the nation as a whole. Personally, I do not see Ethno-Nationalism being any way reasonable unless circumstances allowed it to be so, such as balkanization. Ironically falling for the Jew's tricks, some, if not most Ethno-Nationalists, support absolute war which will harm every part involved except the ones who caused it in the first place.

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>>137698300
>Part 4/4

>Stop letting individuals claim leadership
Self-explanitory, and falls into the LARPing and usage of the word "Alt-Right". It does not matter how "sound" Spencers words seem to you, he is not the leader of the "Alt-Right". No one is. This movement was made in Anonimity, and should stay that way. He is not the new Rockwell, nor the new Hitler. He is just some nasally guy who thought he could play General for a while. I'm not saying that you should hate him or that he's controlled oppostion (however it would be the objective of one individual to mislead a movement), but we need to stop putting one guy on a pedistal.

In summary, we should abandon the term "Alt-Right" while keeping it's orinignal meaning and adopt something more subtle, stop LARPing as one small section of our large movement, reconize the race realism in both civic nationalism and ethnic nationalism and do not let the other go into the abyss of emotion and egalitarianism, reconize the struggle all gentiles face when against the Jew and show the other gentile races the truth, and keep this movement Anonymous. I know that I'm going to be called a shill at somepoint, but for those who are willing to listen to truth, spread this to your fellow anons, so they can do the same. Feel free to put input into this guide.

>>137698062
>>137698193
>>137698300
>>137698424
Please excuse any typos, this was written in haste.

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National (((socialist))) jew kikes will call you guys kikes for being right. Which you are. You are right. Fuck nazis they're so fucking dumb. Also fuck R*ssian Slavic hoards who using this to mess with us Americans. You can bet your ass R*ssian Kremlin kikes are milking all of this to weaken us as we are their enemy. We must persist and remain united against (((nazis))) commies and Kremlin kikes!

>>137698585
National Socialists have done nothing wrong, other than assume that they are the movement, not a part of it.

>>137698062

Fuck off Fashits fags

>>137698830
Thanks for the bump, family.

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>>137698062
`Shill detected.
>Asking not to fragment the right in one sentence
>Trying to fragment it in the next.
You're a nazi. If not be subverted or die.

The problem is you either believe in racial preservation(and thus in some capacity, racism) or you don't.

There is no getting around this and it's simply not a position to be compromised on.

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>>137698746
Sorry as an American I cannot compute agreeing with nazis. I will kill nazis just as hard as my grandpops did. America has no room for nazi kikes. They were our ww2 enemy are you retarded? ?? Lol"they dindu muffin " fucking faggot fuck socialism fuck leftists fuck antifa fuck nazis fuck communists and most of all fuck r*ssian Kremlin kike scum

Conservatives like me will never agree with you punk niggers

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>>137698062
FYI THIS IS A SHILL PSYOPS.

THEY ALL IDENTIFY THEMSELVES WITH THESE LONG DRAWN OUT POST TRYING TO CONVINCE YOU NEWNIGGERS HOW TO THINK.
>LETS DO THIS
>LETS CHANGE THIS

THIS IS A SOROS INFLUENCED IDEA JUST LIKE THE FUCKING TIKI TORCHES YOU IDIOTS. DONT BUY INTO THIS BULL SHIT KEEP MEMEING AND KEEP EXPOSING THESE WORTHLESS FAGGOTS FOR WHAT THEY REALLY ARE, JUST SOME LOSERS WITH ASPIRATIONS OF CHANGING THE WORLD YOU ALL CREATED INTO A NIGGERLOVING KIKEDDIT.

RACE WAR NOW PUSSY

>>137698062
What group are you affiliated with? Surely you're one of my fellow White Nationalists and not just some leftypol LARPing faggot.

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>>137698062

>PROOF: What really happened in Charlottesville.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx1U45KXFQU

>>137699232
I do. Racial preservation is important, but it's also important to be in good terms with the other races as well. We should accept fit individuals when they come, but be respectable to the culture and identity of the nation. I do not see that as a compromise. It becomes a compromise when we open the gates to hordes of unfit subhumans because it's nice. It is important to be race realist when it comes to this, most africans are lowly, therefore you will not meet many acceptable africans. When they do arrive, however, be welcoming.

>>137699572
Classical Fascism (Mussolini).

>>137699815
>>137699232
*When fit ones arrive

>>137699815
>instantly outting yourself
I was asking what White Nationalist organization within the US you belonged to. You just admitted to me that you're not part of one. You're a shill. A shill so stupid you think the amorphous mass of anons /pol/ are actually the body of the Alt-Right.

>>137698062
Kicking the JQ can down the road?

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>>137698193
>defending civic nationalism

you fucking faggot cunt, there is no need for ANY compromise. Not any.

here is the actual plan:

>removal of jew programming through our trusted methods

until every single one of them no longer has any emotional replies to a roman salute and it becomes a non issue.

There wont be a single compromise you piece of shit.

sage

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>>137698062
Totally agree. Been here since Trump won, don't want to let this board go down.

>>137699559
>>LETS CHANGE THIS
exactly

the faux concern over the ~movement~ is not really convincing

>>137700136
Watch that edge. Also don't you think you have the wrong flag on? You realize most Fascists leaders were civic nationalists or at least demographically conscious civies. I'm not saying that we open the flood gates to the "poor helpless africans, but this promoting of balkanzation is unrealistic.

>>137700464
When I say "movement" I mean the right wing as a whole. Please for give if it sounds too preachy, I was just trying to get a point across.

>>137700572
>this promoting of balkanzation is unrealistic.
this. these preemptive ethnashs will destroy our opportunity of gaining any ground

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>>137700572
historical fallacy much? The natsocs also didnt murder 6 million jews and mostly just wanted them to be deported. Times change. And right now people like me will literally try to murder you for spouting that civnat garbage. Almost as much an enemy you are as the jews, probably are a jew from hiding under our flag.

The grand plan with the natsoc reich 2.0 is to keep on removing the jew programming, until one day it would be safe enough (nobody cares about media) to do a roman salute with no repercussion. As most people would be neutral or pro you. Kill yourself faggot, because we will kill you alongside the niggers that you love so much.

>>137698585
Fucking kike kys

>>137700572
kys kike kill the niggers and spics before its too late gas the kikes race war now 1488

We are the core of this movement. Someday, the swastika will fly over the buildings of a government again. None of these cucked wannabe symbols will do, and the fasces isn't sufficient by itself. That being said, it is not yet time for the restoration of the Reich. That will come when our tools, the lolbertarians and cuckservatives and the white nationalists who haven't bothered to think about what society should look like after they remove the shitskins, have set the stage for our grand resurrection.

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>>137700875
>historical fallacy much?
>why are you a capitalist spouting socialist ideas?
>LOL HISTORICAL FALLACY MUCH?
National Socialism is differentiated from other branches of Fascism for a reason.

>And right now people like me will literally try to murder you for spouting that civnat garbage.
pic related

>Almost as much an enemy you are as the jews, probably are a jew from hiding under our flag.
But this isn't your flag. You are one of the groups that fall under this flag, but you aren't THE flag.

>The grand plan with the natsoc reich 2.0 is to keep on removing the jew programming, until one day it would be safe enough (nobody cares about media) to do a roman salute with no repercussion.
Again, more unrealistic memeing, this is a serious discussion, go to one of your shitposting threads,etc,etc,etc.

>Kill yourself faggot, because we will kill you alongside the niggers that you love so much.
>also that 'too cool for you" pic
pic related

No more (You)'s for (You).

>>137698062
>this movement
die faggot

>>137701225
this is too extreme as well, both are more or less kike stances. Though 1488 is sacred, but its just not the time yet. We need to remove more jew programming from their minds. I am making an illustration on the concept.

>>137701638
I'm just LARPing to try and goad people into actually fucking the movement over because its fucking funny watching the sperge

>>137698193
Topkek, leftypol isn't even trying anymore

>>137701369
>None of these cucked wannabe symbols will do
>calling the literal ideology your ideology is based on cucked and the "wannabe"
(You)


>>137701688
Checked. Also I don't care that much, right-wing anarchism is the next preferable thing to be honest.

>>137701593
Sorry, anon. "This movement" as in the right? Oh wait, you do not want to see results you meme and LARP, (You).

>>137701774
POO

>>137701834
>civic nationalism is based
>poo maymay
Plebbit needs to leave

That's not how this works compadres

1) no meme
2) no movement

>>137701973
>using based to describe anything
>lol plebbit
Give a shitpost answer, expect a shitpost response. No more (You)'s for shill poo for now on.

Sage this obvious shill and move on

>>137702303
>being reasonable and asking for cooperation between civil and ethnic nationalists against the jew is shilling now
Cancer hit this place hard.

>>137701834
You can't even read you pseudo intellectual bitch, I specifically excluded the fasces from that, I just said it wasn't enough by itself. That thing isn't going to galvanize anyone except Italians because nobody else knows wtf that is. To them, national socialism IS fascism and vice versa. If you're going to pick a symbol tainted by WWII then you pick the most iconic symbol in the history of humanity. Also Italian fascism was too economically left and it's not good enough on race so fuck off.

>>137702526
>You can't even read you pseudo intellectual bitch, I specifically excluded the fasces from that, I just said it wasn't enough by itself.
Sorry missed that, but it probably wouldn't matter.

> I just said it wasn't enough by itself.
When is a symbol "isn't enough"? It's a fucking symbol, it represents something. What is there not enough of? Edge?

>That thing isn't going to galvanize anyone except Italians because nobody else knows wtf that is.
Then you teach them you retard.

>To them, national socialism IS fascism and vice versa.
Then you teach them you retard.

>If you're going to pick a symbol tainted by WWII then you pick the most iconic symbol in the history of humanity.
You pick symbols because of their MEANING, not for how iconic they are. You entire post reeks of underage angst. Go back to LARPing, faggot. You are no use.

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>>137701486
there, here is our master plan. Now with more crude mspaint tools.

>>137702984
I AM going to teach them, without your filthy civic nationalism ruining everything. They will know that race and volk must be prioritized, not this cucked bullshit you're espousing. Literally nobody cares sbout what you're saying. Go take your useless essays someplace else.

i agree on both those points. ultimately though, we shouldn't allow anyone to claim to have a monopoly on the right. when you organize and have clear "leaders," you are setting yourself up for failure.

chaos will ensure our success. you can't kill an idea if it doesn't have an appointed leader or a group attached to it.

>>137703256
>They will know that race and volk must be prioritized
Where did I say you can't or couldn't care for your race? It says in fine fucking print that the culture and identity should be preserved. Balknization and violence are not preferable, only LARPers and too cool for you kids say so.

>not this cucked bullshit you're espousing
>Mussolini
>cucked
Hell this is more ethnically oriented than what he said.

>Literally nobody cares sbout what you're saying
Popularity fallacy, just outed yourself as underage.
>like, no cares because you are, like, unpopular
Like I said, useless.

>>137703690
"I only need a few thousand dead so that I can sit at the peace conference as a man who has fought."
Yeah Mussolini was a fucking cuck who couldn't come through with anything because he was a stupid crypto commie just like you. You literally just endorsed tolerating civic nationalism and this is gonna get pretty fucking violent whether you want to cuck out of it like your leader did or not. Fuck off and die, pol is natsoc and I'm sick of larpers like you thinking you can change that with your autism essays

>>137698062
Anon speaks the truth.
Remember if the science is proven right, and the movement is civic and meritocratic, then the ethnic problem will "out itself" and therefore "solve itself". You are seeing the beginnings of this at small scale already where Plomin & Co. are working. It is a small step to bring an ethnic dimension to their science and it is a step which will naturally happen IF society is reoriented and viewed through the meritocratic lens.
The truth will out, but you must first create the conditions for that to happen. Open the door and truth will step through.

I am here from the other place.

That is all for now., apart from one final message.
In order to create a large movement, first create many small movements which are mutually supportive. Allow them to discover one another. The rest is nature.

>>137698062
>>137699815

What you said is 90% right, we should do as you say. I too am a 'classical' Fascist (there was always really only one kind of Fascism), but what you say of the jew is wrong. The Jewish conspiracy shit is a liability. Mussolini was pro jewish, he even trained the Israeli navy (before it was an offical navy). If you understand Fascism you should know that the true enemy is inactivity, i.e. inactive people; The Upper Class and the Lower Class. This includes the tiny '1%' hyper rich who do nothing but sit on their asses, lighting cigars with $100 bills, and of course it also includes the hordes of welfare leeches who aren't poor for a good reason and stay poor.

Refer to (((them))) as Plutocrats instead of Jews, as it is a more accurate term since the jewish conspiracy is bullshit. Plutocrats are ruining Capitalistic policies with the upper class and they are ruining Socialistic policies with the lower class.

Avoiding 'bigotry' is very important, as it is the only that really puts people off of Fascism.

>>137704723
When I mean "Jew" I mean Zionist, not necessarily the ethnic group as a whole.

>>137704258
Last (You)

>>137704723
HOLY fucking SHIT get the FUCK OUT! Stop trying to shill your fucking kike bullshit and just kill yourself before a real Nazi or one of the niggers you love fuck your wife does it for you

>>137698062
Damage is done. The right is cannablizing itself even worst then the left with the SJWs .

Welp that's enough for tonight. I tried to be a good OP and actually reply to everyone so shills don't project and call me one because "le 1 post". Discuss, or shitpost. I don't care. LARPers are at full force tonight and I won't expect this to end for a while.

>>137698062
Yes, you're the same wall of text shill from before.

I don't know what you think you're getting by typing this much on here.

>>137698062
I agree. Nazi larpers are just as bad as commies

t. actual nazi whose ancestors fled in time

>>137705136
Who? Have a screencap? Also:
>the post is long therefore it is shill
Absolute state of /pol/. Made me come back from going to sleep for how stupid you are.

>>137704903
This isn't your refuge, faggot. Go away, you do nothing but hurt the cause.

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ITT white supremacists try to avoid the day of the rope currently happening

>>137704842
Well Zionist is not entirely accurate either, as some strains of Zionism are basically Israeli Fascism. Plutocrats is the proper term, in fact it is the term Mussolini used.

>>137704903
No, Kikes don't run the world, they are useful in holding the muslims at bay. Nazis are just a different brand of SJW.

>one of the niggers you love fuck your wife does it for you

wut

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>>137700297
>Been here since Trump won

>>137698062
Doesn't matter what you want to brand yourselves as. What matters is they will simply brand you as a white nationalist or a neo-Nazi that is the 21st century offspring of fascism, regardless of what you wish to be called.

You can try and get around the word game but there's no escaping the constant demonization, that's their strongest tactic. The only way in which you can win over minds if by pointing out the lefts ridiculousness, and by default and extension people will wake up to right wing politics and get red-pilled.

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A big part of the friction the Alt-right is struggling against is (beyond the nazi larping) failing to actually use American Symbols for an American Movement. We have people quoting European thinkers, using European aesthetics, drawing from European myths etc. Here's an open secret, America has disdain for Europe. When you wrap yourself in our flag our people want to like you. When you draw on our mythos, our people respond. Average Americans are not going to feel anything for your black sun, or norse runes, or whatever. We need wheat fields, pioneers, flapper girls, jazz, cowboys, prospecters, minute men, 50's businessmen. We need Hemingway, pragmatism, Teddy Roosevelt type imagery. Nods to Rome work because we have a tradition of doing that here already.

Public appearances need to be clean and more than anything else American. Theres a need for new symbols, but the well of inspiration we draw from needs it's own aesthetic Monroe Doctrine.

There's also the matter of demonstrating white racial consciousness does not lead to murder. That's what Jared Taylor has been doing with his term "White Advocacy". There's no reason the alt-right can't encourage and boost the signal of groups like Hoteps etc. Every people wants the space to be themselves. There's an existing American tradition that used to enable this called Freedom of Association, and we need to bring it back. People who don't want to hang out shouldn't have to, and people who want to should have that right. The government needs to stay out of deciding where people live, who their friends are, and who they do business with. There's 300 million people in this country, so no one is going to go without baked cakes or housing in current year. Identity politics is here to stay, and requires pragmatism.

Conservatism is dead because it's just losing in slow motion for the right, and everyone knows it. Tradition is actually capable of motivating direction and visions for the future while respecting the past.