This is the biggest happening so far

>>137631727
By blaming both sides, Trump is making a clear move away from the traditional political dichotomy of republican and democrat. Trump knows he doesn't really fit into the republican party. He knows that he doesn't really belong there, but he also knows that third-party candidates stand no chance because of (((their))) control over the media.

Trump is opening the door for alternate parties in the future. "Draining the swamp" isn't only about removing corrupted individuals, it's more about ending the shared monopoly of only two parties over America's entire political system from top to bottom. Next time a typical democratic or republican candidate runs for president, they will lose a significant amount of votes to alternate parties. Trump is helping this process by blaming both sides, he is fighting the dichotomous American media narrative. He wants to make people understand that this is not a conflict between democrats and republicans, but rather a conflict between two groups ideologically seperate from these two parties.

bump. Hello dutchman.

>>137631727
>>137631804
You're too smart for this board, leave while you still can.

Bumping, good read. No strong opinion just yet.

>>137632334

R A R E
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I propose a new party to be called the Common Sense Party.

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>>137632334
Speak for yourself
>pic related
Also, bump.

>>137631727
Bump

>>137631727
First they tried to threaten us. The Lugenpresse conglomerate is a well oiled machine, they would stagger the reporting so as to shield themselves from any blame of advocated violence; half of the cable propagandists would liken Trump supporters to Nazis, the other half would rationalize and encourage assaulting Nazis.

They thought they could scare us back into submission, they hoped the threat of violence would keep us in hiding. But Trump was the first man in most of our lifetimes to ever take a stand for us. Our future was more important to us than our immediate safety.

Then they attacked us. During peaceful rallys or scheduled speeches, they came in droves with knives, clubs, bear mace, bags of their own excrement which they would throw, the police would stand down and the cameras would all shift to the one or two attendees adorned with a Swastika. We had to fight for the right to exist.

They did anything possible to stifle the free expression of our ideology, for the ideals it represents are too powerful.

Finally, we chose to fight back. Though the first shots were fired by the unstrategic mentally unsound, we had no choice but to follow through, as it was a declaration of war. Backing out means surrender. Visit their social media sanctuaries and see for yourself how they talk about you, what they want of you, your culture, and the society your ancestors built. This is a war for your very right to exist. Your home is being invaded as you read this. This is our last stand, and we are standing taller than we have in generations. What will your children think of the world you leave them? Will you be remembered by them as a great Warrior, or a Coward?

>>137631727
Bump, but i'd put the vote for trump with conviction a couple points higher

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>>137632803
Well meme'd amigo
Enjoy your civil war

I think America is so big that the only option is to have 2 parties. Now I don't agree with this. So the solution is to break up the US. If somehow by the end of his 8 years he can have broken up the US into different sections, then he will have been successful.

This would essentially mean that big government is over, the (((Federal reserve))) is over, people will have freedom again and will be able to control their own borders/demographics. This sounds impossible but think about it. We are around 7 months into his presidency and we have white people so emboldened to have rallies in commie controlled areas. We are on a tightrope to war with NK. And the media's reputation has been destroyed. In only 7 months.

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What happens when trump is impeached by his own party?

>>137631804
However much Trump may end up dissolving the grip that the "Reds and Blues" have over the US, a dominant two party system will simply happen again. A devastating stake in the heart of such a thing happening again would be replacing the systems to lead to such things, such as replacing First Past the Post voting with Preferential Block voting.

>>137634047
well if that ever happens well know.

Bump, good read

>>137634252
if martians ever attack and turn us into lawn furniture well know what thats like.

>>137631727
this is going to make the fucking subhuman communists here so fucking asshurt, it's going to be fun

>>137634028
This is another major issue. America is a union, just like the failed European and Soviet Unions. Unions inherently cause problems with ambiguity about autonomy. The country is undecided about whether it wants to be one federal power, or a collection of autonomous states. The same is true to Europe, although we are still somewhat less federalized. What this means is that you get neither fair competition nor effective cooperation between states. You also waste time by squabbling over issues related to autonomy. I'm not sure I agree that only a two-party system. What do you think prevents a parliamentary system or the current system with more viable parties from working effectively on such a large scale?

>>137634028
For president yes, but regional parties can form for congress

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>>137632817
I agree with nearly all of what you said. There is one important distinction to make though, which is the distinction between what people voted for and what happens subsequently. What I mean by that is not to put blind faith in Trump. Yes, I will say he is doing well and in general is following the mandate of his voters. I will also admit that I found his announcement to run for president absurd, and thought he ran his campaign on cheap populist tactics. I still feel his personality is outrageous and completely inappropriate for the leader of the most powerful country in the world. He is making America look very stupid abroad, basically. But his policy is what matters most. I don't agree with all of it, but it's not for me to agree or disagree with because I'm not an American citizen.

But Trump is still a very wealthy man who has lived a very different life from you and I. He's not the "common man", a common 70 year old lives and especially looks nothing like him. He just ran on a populist platform as an outsider because he knew people mistrust the republicans and democrats. It worked, and I believe he is now executing his policies based on personal ideology. This is a refreshing change from earlier corrupted presidents who acted on other motives, but you have to remember that since his life has been so different from yours, it's not a stretch to believe his views are also quite different. He appoints a LOT of corporate figures to high government positions.

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>>137631727

The MSM hasn't been this upset since election night.
I fucking love it.

alt-left more like ctrl-left with how much they like big gov and though policing

>>137634028
This is why I shill for Calexit whenever it comes up.

bump, very decent read

>>137631727
paraphrasing Don Lemon

Trump blamed the left for something

the proof Trump is Hilter reincarnated

>>137639819
Don Lemon is a fucking retard. Go on youtube and find some of his funny/weird/controversial moments. He flaunts his status as an affirmative action hire by acting very unprofessionally to the point where anyone else would be fired.

>>137633844
am i correct in saying that this is the result of men leaving your country? i can only understand a bit

also i have never heard of your country in my entire life wtf

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>>137631727
Thank you for your insight, I haven't seen a smart, well thought thread like this is in a long time, keep up the good work.

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>American political system representing two points of view
>2017

Anything outside the neoliberal center-right is "alt" aka basically Nazis and must be surpressed

not only is he dismantling the two party system, he is also dismantling the overreaching of the government itself - starting with education.

Betsy is there to prevent leftwing agenda being pushed onto america's youth, by giving the classrooms back to the states.

The wall will go up, physically and metaphorically, illegal votes will no longer be a deciding factor (ie Broward county) and medicaid will go.

Government will retreat from peoples everyday lives and liberty will prevail.

That or WW3.

>>137631727
>>137631804
The two-pary system looks fine. Trump wouldn't have won without it

>>137631727
>can't pass policy
>make people fight as a distraction

He's just a terrible leader

>>137631804
This hypothetical third party will split the right, leaving the Democrats to win elections.

>>137631727
America just needs to remove the kikes. Biggest mistake they ever made was killing JFK.

>>137632334
N O T C O M M O N

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>>137631727
Hi.

>>137634047
T H I C C

Trump is right though.

The left defines "nazi" as anyone who didn't vote for Hillary Clinton.

Good for Trump. He learned a lesson after going cuck yesterday and seeing how the left responded.

Our God Emperor is still with us.

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>>137631727
<--- The Alt-Left

Know your enemies.

>>137643474
DUDE PUNCH A NAZI

DUDE LMAO I LOVE POLITICAL VIOLENCE AND DOXXING CULTURE

IT'S TOTALLY NOT TOXIC AND ANTITHESIS TO FREE OPEN SOCIETY THAT THE LEFT LIKES TO PARROT.

Left created the new alt left. Hope they enjoy it. BlackLivesMatter, Antifa, PunchaNazi, George Soros sponsored events.

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>>137631804
>Trump = Republican
He isnt. What he is doing is destroying the press as the political kingmaker. It is about time too..

>>137634047
If you believe this is a possibility you must have cried a lot when he won.

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>>137631727
>>137631804
Good post OP.

A decay of the neoliberal order within American politics can only be a good thing for the world.

>>137641940
leftist would prefer a civil war before that happens or like you said ww3

>>137631727
Nice analysis.

>>137643668
the fat cow who got hit by the dodge was part of IWW funny thing she looks like shes never worked in her fat life "industrial workers of the world" my ass

>>137632334
illuminati pls

>>137631727

TRump Trump Trump Trum pTrump

welcome to CNN

>>137631727
My only disappointment is he said "white nationalist" several times. We need NATIONALISM. Our media and the left want open borders and to flood our nation with low IQ breeders who will vote for the party of "give me free shit."

Cant wait for the chimpout.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_s3BLqXerwY

>>137631727
Bernie Sanders is a cuck. He literally said that the alt-left does not exist, and it was the alt-right that was the instigators. Bernie Sanders is a fucking partisan, jackass. He even encourages the radicals.

>>137644285
I'm saying he's not. You didn't read my post (properly). But yes he is destroying the press as such, and it is exactly the press that maintains the two-party system by ignoring other parties. The media are fighting back against his narrative of breaking the dichotomy.

>>137647217
To be fair the alt-left doesn't exist as far as I know; it's just the left, nothing alternative about it.

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>>137632334
here comes reddit to save the day and shit in a good conversation

>>137647217
>radicals

>>137631727
I am so thankful for this development. For a day or so I was seriously worried that Antifa was going to become a legitimized actor in American politics. It's so important that Trump finally named them.

>>137647583
Comminists are basically the alt-left. Not all left-leaning people are full-blown communists.

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>>137632334

Whoa what flag is that?

>>137647633
>that pic
I'm triggered and I don't even browse /v/.

>>137632334
If he were truly smart, he'll be able to read the shit here without it pickling his brain.

>>137631727
>it's safe to assume a significant portion voted for Trump reluctantly

New Poll Shows 96% Of Trump Supporters Would Vote For Him Again; Just 85% Of Clinton Supporters Feel The Same
http://www.dailywire.com/news/15654/new-poll-shows-96-trump-supporters-would-vote-him-frank-camp#exit-modal

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>>137637456
>Articles about chaos
>Eclipse news right below
Coincidence? No.

>>137638448
>condemning both sides is defending one side
What?

>>137632334
That's fucking rare.

>>137648331
quebec is finally independent

>>137632803
this is why his flag is soooo "rare" kek
nignoggies

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Has there ever been a greater era of political schadenfreude?

>say both sides caused violence
>clearly only the communists starting shit
???

>>137632334
RARE
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>>137650453

Yeah I know he's still holding back.

>>137631804
you don't know anything about the republican party. if any other republican nominee made it to the white house they would've condemned the right. meaning this isn't about left vs right as they both have the same views. the reason his condemning if both sides is monumental is that it's the first time in like 60 years that a president has taken a neutral stance on white identitarians vs "anti-racists"

>>137650453
It's 2017 words are violence now

>>137632334

Damn I'm on my phone and will miss this rare flag

>>137631727
Stay on course guys! He gave us an small opportunity window to fix what happened. We need to fight Antifa and Nazis. It´s the only way to save conservative and right leaning values without starting a war.
Lauren, Watson and Alex Jones over Spencer, Nathan and Duke anytime!

>>137631727
>>137631804
>Trying this hard to justify Trump's ridiculous antics
There is no deeper meaning. He first saw the nazi rally and exclusively condemned them. Then someone else showed him Antifa and he flipped. He simply is extremely succeptible to immediate evidence and is uncapable of thinking things trough before makieng a dumb and innacurate statement.

>>137642678
Not necessarily. I reckon that the Berniebot/Hillary split is bigger than any splits on the right. The Democrats are a loose amalgamation of a bunch of identity politics folks, communists, and hippies. The right tends to be much more united, beyond the alt-right sort of stuff.

>>137631727
We need to lay low and let the left destroy themselves while the spotlight is on them.

FIRE UP THE LEFTY ACCOUNTS AND START MAKING THEM LOOSE THEIR SHIT! WE NEED TO GET THEM TO TEAR DOWN EVERY STATUE!

He condemned both sides
LITERALLY FUCKING HITLER
IMPEACH NOW
I CAN'T
I CAN'T GO ON I'M LITERALLY SHAKING YOU NAZI SCUM

>>137647633
>>137648367
>redditors get upset when you Name the Redditor
Good to know

>>137637456
This is actually scary. It should be blatantly obvious that CNN is pandering to their base, which is just as emotional and frustrated as the Trump base, but liberals don't see it.
Therefore they don't see why the left is becoming as irrational as fucking neo-nazis.

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>>137632334
R A R E

>>137631727
>>137631804
Rarefag (>>137632334) is correct. This shit is too smart for /pol/.

>>137642678
Nah, >>137651941 has it right. For all the anger we have on the right, the left is definitely in the midst of a greater feud. Not to mention, many Republican voters are old enough to remember that Perot lost Bush his re-election in 92. The Dems haven't experienced any significant vote splitting since 48.

>>137631727
Thank you for sharing your opinions.

>>137639389
It's too bad that the left did such a good job convincing everyone that calexit is just a russian psyop.

>>137631804
>"Draining the swamp" isn't only about removing corrupted individuals, it's more about ending the shared monopoly of only two parties over America's entire political system from top to bottom.
DING DING DING

Trump is /ourguy/ as much as he can possibly be without completely losing normie support.
I'm pretty whitepilled right now.

Trumpity bumpity

>>137631727
>>137631804
Great post, anon.

>>137631727
>If we take half of Trump voters as reluctant, that leaves only about 12.5% of American people who voted for Trump with conviction.
I, too, read Judge Dredd.

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>counter-protesters

>>137631727
It boils down to more than just the number of parties. Plenty of countries in Europe have three or more viable political parties but they're just as cucked and corrupt. The reason is that both the American government and the governments of western Europe have been subverted by largely liberal Jewish outside forces.

Breaking down the already corrupt established party system is a good first step, but the endgame has to be the establishment of racial/idealogical laws regarding who can participate in government, academia and finance. We need to bar Jews, Marxist and any other hostile foreign or cancerous idealogical influences from obtaining any sort of influence within Western society.

>>137631727
the reason they hate trump is because he's destroying the matrix of mind control. If thas was obama he would do his part in brainwashing us with the typical "there is no place in this world for hatred, or nazis" just like his most popular tweet. Stuff that basically means nothing. Trump is actually being RATIONAL, and to be rational means to break the system of control, because you aren't following the mind control of left vs right. Trump is such a danger because he's destroying the system of mind control. That's why leftists are freaking out so much. because they are receiving information that goes against their programming. They are programmed zombies

interesting post OP

>>137655491
Welcome to the edge of the coin, OP.

>>137634215
>A devastating stake in the heart of such a thing happening again would be replacing the systems to lead to such things, such as replacing First Past the Post voting with Preferential Block voting.
I think this anon has it right. Look at the UK. They have first past the post and, although more than two parties are relevant, only two have a snowball's chance in hell of ever being the leader of a coalition government let alone winner of an absolute majority of seats.

>>137635242
>America is a union, just like the failed European and Soviet Unions
Not just a union but a multi ethnic union which is ultimately much worse than say a political or economic union. I would more compare us to yugoslavia

>>137638448
>TRUMP DEFENDS RACIST PROTESTORS
Factually inaccurate information in all caps right there on the screen. We Pravda now.

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>>137632334

>>137647633
>>137652375
The R.edditor is immune to all criticism one may call him a faggot, troll, stupid and it all runs off his back like water off a duck but tell him to go back to r.eddit and you'll be astonished how he recoils "i've been found out".

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>>137631727
so i was watching the underground fight on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TWCEV5U09c
and i noticed from between 6.40 to 6.46 you can clearly see an antifa faggot club an old man with his back turned in the head, putting him to the floor. The cunt then skips off into the crowd. Do what you do pol. Find this fucker and bring him to sweet, sweet justice.
>inb4 notmypersonalarmy

>>137647217
Well he was half right because this whole alt-ism is a complete fabrication by the media so they could have some straw man to attack. There is nothing genuine about it.

>>137657990
just post a loli
that pisses then off for some reason, /v/ is starting to do that

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>>137631727
>>137631804
we have 3 sides, the third party just becomes a bargaining chip or used as a leverage against one of the two other sides

it's democracy that is the cancer

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>>137646505
fixed :^)

>>137632644
New

>>137654069
same here. its been a wild ride.

>>137635124
>communist
Stop using swear words. The proper way to post that is c*mmunists.

>>137632334
RARE

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>>137631727
B A S E D
A
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D

>>137635242
We just need to be able to shift powers back to the individual states. If a state doesn't want to take subhumans as immigrants, it shouldn't have to.

>>137631727
>HE CALLED OUT OUR HIRED ACTORS
REDALERTREDALERTREDALERT
>HE CALLED OUT OUR HIRED ACTORS
REDALERTREDALERTREDALERT
>HE CALLED OUT OUR HIRED ACTORS
REDALERTREDALERTREDALERT

All this is.

The Globalists never thought their agents would be called out so soon.

>>137631727

Trump makes a laughing stock out of himself, sperging like a retard on /pol/

> This is monumental shift

You're fucking dumb fuck Trumpcuck, I hope Trump keeps this up.

>>137631727
What happens when you have an ethno-state?

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>>137632334
It's been a while since people going rare rare

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>>137631727
Trump is a retard, and he isn't intending this, but I think you may be on to something with this, even though it is accidentally caused.

>>137648817
Tabarnak!

>>137632817
Stay strong, its going to get worse before it gets better

>an intelligent post on /pol/
What the fuck has the world come to

>>137637990
>He appoints a LOT of corporate figures to high government positions.
Good post. The above doesn't worry me (yet) because these are the folks who understand what the heavy hand of our government does to commerce. I'm suspending judgement at the moment, I think he's playing deeper chess than most can appreciate.