Proof the Holocaust was real/fake

it was real, but there were no death camps.

>>137626083
Show me the proof

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>>137626332

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>>137626707
Dr Charles P Larson was the head of the forensic coroner group that investigated the camps in Western Allied occupied zones. He described this experience in his book.

>Crime Doctor: Dr. Charles P. Larson, world's foremost medical-detective, reports from his crime file
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/628069.Crime_Doctor

As part of the US War Crimes Investigation Team, Dr Larson performed autopsies at Dachau and some twenty other German camps, examining on some days more than 100 corpses. He was later questioned for three days by US Army prosecutors on his findings.

In an interview with the Wichita Eagle, 1 April 1980, he called the holocaust a hoax.

>Larson has talked little publicly about the war experience. One reason for his silence has been that his autopsy findings conflicted with the widely held belief that most Jews in Nazi camps were exterminated by gassing, shooting or poisoning.

>"What we’ve heard is that six million Jews were exterminated. Part of that is a hoax," Larson said...

>...most died as a result of the conditions to which they were subjected rather than mass exterminations...

>...autopsies showed that "death by gassing and shooting were rare. Never was a case of poisoning uncovered."

https://20thcenturytruth.wordpress.com/allied-forensic-autopsies-confirm-disease-not-gas/

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>>137626875
Ever seen pic related? We've all seen in it every WW2 textbook or documentary ever. What do you see here? Proof of the holocaust, right?

WRONG.

What you see is a picture of a soldier in British uniform at Bergen-Belsen. All of those Jews died from typhus/starvation AFTER it had been liberated and quarantined during the two months they were in British custody.

>Nearly 14,000 prisoners would die after liberation.
http://www.iwm.org.uk/history/the-liberation-of-bergen-belsen

Bergen-Belsen was not a death camp. The 50,000 Jews who died there (14,000 of whom died in British custody) were not deliberately genocided. They died for exactly the same reasons as the Jews in the pic and Anne Frank.

This is what Josef Kramer, Assistant Commandant of Auschwitz and "the butcher of Belsen" attested to at his trial:
>I have heard of the allegations of former prisoners in Auschwitz referring to a gas chamber there, the mass executions and whippings, the cruelty of the guards employed, and that all this took place either in my presence or with my knowledge. All I can say to all this is that it is untrue from beginning to end.
http://www.bergenbelsen.co.uk/pages/TrialTranscript/Trial_Day_014.html#Day014_KramerStatement

That is your holocaust. A lot of Jews dying from typhus and starvation near the end of the war. No government conspiracy, no gassings, no 6 million.

>Eric Hunt: Why we believed
https://youtu.be/RddqP0ABzwM

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>>137627363
>The Truth Behind The Gates Of Auschwitz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHzWo79dCHs

>The Majdanek Gas Chamber Myth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDsJtB2F9i8

>The Treblinka Archaeology Hoax
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4iecvq

>One Third Of The Holocaust: Treblinka, Belzec, Sobibor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dxsVSzL4HE

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Zyklon B was a common cyanide pesticide. During WW2, Germans used it to delouse fabrics at concentration camps, because of the typhus epidemic on the Eastern front from 1941.

Typhus was the primary cause of death in German WW2 concentration camps, the vast majority near the end of the war as German society collapsed.

For example, Anne Frank and her sister, Margot, died from typhus in the camp hospital at Bergen-Belsen after their transfer there from Auschwitz, where they spent 2 months. 15,000 of the 50,000 Jews who died in Bergen-Belsen died in the 2 months AFTER it had been liberated and put under quarantine by British troops.

>Nearly 14,000 prisoners would die after liberation.
http://www.iwm.org.uk/history/the-liberation-of-bergen-belsen

Americans used Zyklon B to fumigate the clothes of Mexican immigrants at the border.

>Zyklon B arrived in El Paso in the 1920s courtesy of the US government. In 1929, for example, a Public Health Service officer, J.R. Hurley, ordered $25 worth of the material–hydrocyanic acid in pellet form–as a fumigating agent for use at the El Paso delousing station, where Mexicans crossed the border from Juárez.
https://www.thenation.com/article/zyklon-b-us-border/

Zyklon B was also used by the British Empire for fumigating passenger ships and food granaries, as discussed in these journals.

>During the past three years various products such as Zyklon B have been used in Colombo in the fumigation of vessels, lighters, granaries, rat burrows
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/146642403705800209

>A Report on the Disposal of Zyklon-B Residue following the Fumigation of the Holds of Vessels
https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/4578621.pdf?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

As discussed in the journal above, Zyklon B leaves a distinctive Prussian blue residue. In pic related, the Prussian blue is clearly present after 75 years in the Majdanek fumigation chamber, but not in the Auschwitz main homicidal gas chamber.

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>>137627810
Extensive testing has been done on the Auschwitz gas chamber walls, both by independent researchers and the Auschwitz museum authorities. They all returned the same result. They were found to contain only trace amounts of cyanide, as much as one would expect to find in a room that had been fumigated as in the journals above, but not a homicidal gas chamber.

In America in the late 80s, Fred Leuchter was “The nation’s leading adviser on capital punishment," according to the New York Times (October 13, 1990). In 1988, he tested the walls of the Auschwitz gas chamber at the behest of Ernst Zundel and found only trace amounts of cyanide. It was this scientific proof of a gas chamber hoax that brought holocaust revisionism into the mainstream (1:23).

https://youtu.be/-EkDmogN_48

http://www.ihr.org/books/leuchter/leuchter.toc.html

The results of the Leuchter reports have since been replicated by both the Auschwitz museum

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v11/v11p207_staff.html

and Germar Rudolf, an Australian chemistry professor who gained his doctorate from the Max Planck Institute.

http://germarrudolf.com/persecution/germars-persecution/auschwitz-forensics/

Nevertheless, it is sold as a gas chamber by the Auschwitz museum to millions of tourists every single year.

The main homicidal gas chamber on display at Auschwitz museum is in fact a Soviet reconstruction of an air raid shelter, including holes in the roof and a fake chimney that isn't even connected to anything. Auschwitz museum did not inform the public of this fraud for 47 years.

>The crematorium I building was adapted as an air-raid shelter in 1944.
http://auschwitz.org/en/history/auschwitz-and-shoah/the-demolition-of-the-gas-chambers

Dr. Franciszek Piper, head curator of the Auschwitz museum, is on camera describing this in an interview with Jewish American historian David Cole in 1992 (23:49).

https://youtu.be/RHzWo79dCHs

Without this documentary, we would never have known the truth.

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>>137626875

>>137625882
>I need to see both sides of this. I must know the truth.
Holocaust Revisionism

https://pastebin.com/Uzm91v7z

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Other anons sure will have best holoax meme than mine so i'll post the other side of informations.

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WELCOME TO THE LIGHT SIDE

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How does

X + 2m;

X + 4m;

and X + 1.5m

all equal 6m at the same time?

Rudolf Hoess's was the main holocaust testimony at Nuremberg.

Rudolf Hoess: Commandant of Auschwitz:
>"I was treated terribly by the [British] Field Security Police. I was dragged to Heide and, of all places, to the same military barracks from which I had been released eight months before by the British. During the first interrogation they beat me to obtain evidence. I do not know what was in the transcript, or what I said, even though I signed it, because they gave me liquor and beat me with a whip. It was too much even for me to bear."
http://mailstar.net/Hoss-Memoirs.html

Bernard Clarke was the British officer in charge of his arrest.

Captain Bernard Clarke (interviewed by Rupert Butler):
>"The prisoner was torn from the top bunk, the pyjamas ripped from his body. He was then dragged naked to one of the slaughter tables, where it seemed to Clarke the blows and screams were endless. Eventually, the Medical Officer urged the Captain: 'Call them off, unless you want to take back a corpse.'"
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Legions-Death-Enslavement-Military-Classics/dp/1844150429

>Hellstorm (1:09:02)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUt-yxJODxI

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>>137628432

>>137628024
>Dachau did employ gas chambers
Universally acknowledged hoax.

>There is no credible evidence that the gas chamber in Barrack X was used to murder human beings.
https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005214

>>137627363
Im close to bergen belsen right now. I'm in Celle.

>>137628451
>How does
>X + 2m;
>X + 4m;
>and X + 1.5m
>all equal 6m at the same time?

because they never got the death totals from just adding up all the individual camp numbers?
because "4 million at auschwitz" was never a part of western holocaust scholarship to begin with?

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the way you know holocaust denial is bullshit is because of the tactics they rely on.

the stomfront tactic is to spam as many artifact ridden jpgs as possible. If you look closely at the facts behind any particular once, you'll see its bullshit, but they'll have 100 more bullshit images ready by then

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>>137628782
They never got the death tolls from anywhere. It was just made up. The Red Cross put total death toll in all camps at 300,000.

>>137625882
holocaust is real, the jews arranged the holocaust
the jews also started holocaust denial, and also keep it alive
THE JEWS PLAY BOTH SIDES
GOEBBELS WAS A JEW
Hitler was a weak minded cunt, played by the jews
The krauts are the weakest white people - the jews have been controlling them for 100 years
WWI, WWII, WWIII = jews
nazis are LEFT WING, the ALT-LEFT - the jews told us nazis were RIGHT WING, and what did you NIGGERS do? NOTHING
because you have weak kraut minds

>>137626707
for one thing, the "campus inspected by us" "camps inspected by them" is bullshit - soviets reached sutthof and gross rosen before us.
secondly, its no coincidence the death camps were in occupied poland- they couldn't have the german civilian population see the worst of the carnage
thirdly, this tries to make it seem like the soviets made the holocaust up. The soviets literally suppressed scholarship on the holocaust. Ilya Ehrenburg wrote a book about the holocaust of jews the soviet censors banned it because the soviet state thought it undermined the class war defeat of fascism narrative.

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>>137628782
>>137628782
>because "4 million at auschwitz" was never a part of western holocaust scholarship to begin with?
It was 7 million according to the Nuremberg trials you anti-Semitic holocaust denier.

>>137629143
This is the evidence you have offered as proof of a government conspiracy.

>A 1922 fake news report about Hitler.

>A quote from Goebbels diaries """""discovered""""" printed on glass plates in Soviet archives in the late 80s and not even published till 1995 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goebbels_Diaries#In_German).

>A single mistranslated word from a single speech.

>A scrap of paper """""discovered""""" by the Soviets in 1979.

>And a letter to David Irving.

Where are the orders and plans? Where are the gas chambers? Where are the mass graves? The fact that that is the best evidence you have for a government conspiracy to genocide 6 million Jews in gas chambers speaks for itself.
>>>/x/

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>>137625882
It was real

>>137629468
>holocaust is real
Proof please.

>>137628345
holy shit, its almost like death camps had thousands of german personnel so therefore had nice things for them?
>>137629387
ive seen this claim about 100 times and it never gets less retarded. I need to make a image one day specifically that debunks this.

THE RED CROSS NEVER CLAIMED THE TOTAL DEATH TOLL WAS 300K - JUST OFFICIAL LOGGED ONES IN GERMAN TERRITORY. The majority of deaths were outside germany proper, and the majority of deaths in germany proper were not official recorded.

>>137629927
> proof
jews

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>>137629550
>its no coincidence the death camps were in occupied poland
No it's not. They're the ones in the Soviet occupied zone. We already know the Soviet lied >>137629387 and fabricated evidence >>137627917 of the holocaust. They have never shown a mass grave for 6 million. They have never shown plans or orders. They have never shown a genuine gas chamber that they didn't fraudulently construct themselves.

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>>137629143
You literally believe pic related happened.

>>137630339
and the eastern front made the western front look like a friendly skirmish, with both sides starving to death. It is no wonder why Germans got desperate on the eastern front.

>>137628242
>>137628432
These don't debunk anything. Nor do they show any evidence of the holocaust.

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>>137629963
You literally believe pic related happened.

>>137630587
It's no wonder Soviet jews decided to get revenge by fabricating the holocaust by blowing what happened out of all proportion. It's not the first atrocity propaganda that's been proven to be a hoax. It's not the only instance the Soviets blamed their own crimes on the nazis.

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>>137631030
>For it was Polish defiance of Adolf Hitler's demand to negotiate the return of Danzig, a German town put under Polish control after World War I, that gave birth to the Hitler-Stalin Pact, which led to Katyn.

>After the German invasion on Sept. 1, 1939, ignited the war, Joseph Stalin attacked Poland from the east on Sept. 17, capturing much of the Polish officer corps.

>In April 1940, on Stalin's order, the Soviet Secret Police, the NKVD, murdered virtually the entire leadership of the nation, including 8,000 officers and near twice that number of intellectuals and civilian leaders. Some 4,000 were shot with their hands tied behind their backs in Katyn Forest.

>The Germans unearthed the bodies in 1943 and invited the Red Cross in to examine the site. Through newspapers found on the corpses, the date of the atrocity was fixed as more than a year before the German Army invaded the Soviet Union.

>When Polish patriots, whose sons had flown with the Royal Air Force in the Battle of Britain, went to Winston Churchill to demand that he get answers from Stalin about the atrocity, he brushed them off.

>"There is no sense prowling around the three-year-old graves of Smolensk," said the Great Man.

>At Stalin's request, Churchill bullied the Poles into acceding to Soviet annexation of all the Polish land Stalin had been awarded for signing his pact with Hitler.

>At the Nuremberg trials, the Russian delegation, led by Andrei Vishinsky, the prosecutor who did Stalin's dirty work in the purge trials, charged the Germans with the massacre.

>This presented a problem for the Americans and British who knew the truth. They finessed the issue by leaving the charge unresolved.

>Pat Buchanan: Katyn and 'The Good War'
http://m.townhall.com/columnists/patbuchanan/2010/04/13/katyn_and_the_good_war

>>137629550
No one is buying that shit, dumb Jew nigger.
Enjoy your synagogue of Satan whilst you can.

there were most likely camps but the majority probably died of starvation

>>137629842
i posted a random image i had, not my entire argument.

all evidence for the holocaust is readily available in online archives

here is a compilation of some key orders, etc
http://www.shamash.org/holocaust/denial/nazi_doc.txt

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/how-to-refute-holocaust-denial
see "What proof exists that the Nazis practiced genocide or deliberately killed six million Jews?"
The strongest evidence is simple population statistics that proves ~6 million disappeared of the face of the earth.

>>137631030
must be an easy life to have 1 small minority to blame every problem of you see on, so simple.

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>>137625882
did someone mention "Holocaust"?

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>>137625882
Don't tell mama Merkel

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>>137631530

>>137630339
the soviet occupied zone extended beyond the death camps your moron, I listed 2 non-death camps in it.

Again, the soviet state denied the holocaust as Jewish in nature at a state level. That is part of the reason many mass graves have not been found- the soviet states resisted western attempts to investigate.

read a fucking book

>>137631401
>here is a compilation of some key orders
>.txt
Nice evidence.

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>>137631712

>>137631401
>The strongest evidence is simple population statistics that proves ~6 million disappeared of the face of the earth
No they didn't. There is an entire country full of millions of European jews in the ME that didn't exist before the war and the American jewish population mysteriously exploded after the war.

>>137631401
The holocaust is the most covered historical event in history. The only reason to deny it is to fill a hateful narrative. This board is flooded with daily storm / storm front shills and these idiot kids suck the piss right out of them.

>>137630810
>>137630371
wow, I'll have to be honest and say neither of those are arguments against the holocaust.

If someone claims that australia has pink kangeroos that can fly and snort cocaine, does that disprove that australia exists?

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>>137631787

>>137631231
not an argument

>>137630128
>>137629866
fucking kek.

please also show the population of 'soon to be' Israeli jews over the same period.

> oh look, some numbers printed here show it must have happened
you!
and yet you can't into maths enough to calculate no civilization in history could destroy 6 gobiillion jews and leave NO TRACE

Sonderwagen and Vergasungskeller
Do some investigation into these terms.

>>137631791
not an argument, there were only 600k jews in israel in 1947

>>137631988
No trace? Europe was destroyed.

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>>137631401
>population statistics

In 1939, there were 15 million jews in the world according to the World Almanac.

Between 1939-1945, 6 million jews die in the holocaust.

In 1945, that would leave about 9 million jews.

Assume for argument's sake that jews had the same population growth as whites. There were 700 million whites in 1945. Now there are about a billion. Call it a 50% increase.

So one would expect the jewish population today to be about 15 million again. This is a fair assumption to make, since both the MSM

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/28/jewish-global-population-approaches-pre-holocaust-levels

And google

https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#q=world+jewish+population

make the same assumptions.

HOWEVER, when you actually inspect the censuses, there are at least 20 million jews in the world or as many as 23 million, as stated here on page 88.

http://www.jewishdatabank.org/studies/downloadFile.cfm?FileID=3257

This is the source of the wikipedia data on the world jewish population.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population_by_country#Countries_and_Territories

Notice that there are two figures for the total number of jews in the world (the (((Guardian))) and (((google))) of course report the lower number) with exactly 6 million discrepancy. Is this pure coincidence???

Why do they need two totals? What extra people are included in the "Enlarged Jewish Population" total? There must be a good reason, right?

>The “enlarged” Jewish population includes the sum of (a) the “core” Jewish population; (b) all other people of Jewish parentage who, by “core” Jewish population criteria, are not currently Jewish (e.g. they have adopted another religion or otherwise opted out); and (c) all respective non-Jewish household members (spouses, children, etc.)
NB
>all other people of Jewish parentage
>children
http://www.jpr.org.uk/map

Aren't these people jews??? Where did all these jews come from?

to anyone genuinely wondering, note how holocaust deniers will bounce around from one bullshit claim to another

>>137631849
> If P then Q
> if not P then not Q
is a logical fallacy yes, but if was good enough for those fucking commies to dismantle faith.

why cant we use it against them also.

think anon, by definition, 50% of all folk are BELOW average intelligence.

>>137631824
That's not evidence of the holocaust you're posting there my friend. I don't hate anyone, just lies.

Stalin' USSR was pretty antisemitic, but also confirmed that.

>>137626707
fake news

Rudolph Hoss along with hundreds of other Nazis were tortured by British secret service and had their families threatened with being given to the soviets if they did not sign and admit to the contents within a pre-written affidavits.
http://whale.to/b/rudolf_hoess.html

Allied bombing targeted civilian agriculture targets and food storage to cause widespread famine. The emaciated bodies of work camp inmates is primarily the fault of British and American air forces.
http://whale.to/b/starvation_of_germans.html

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>>137631849
You literally believe this happened.

>>137632142
what does that have todo with anything?
ii was asking for proof of dead jews from gas, NOT the easy proof any child can see that jews fucked over europe into an all out total war for their shekels...

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>>137632215

>>137625882
>>137625882

>typhoid spreading across europe killing hundreds of thousands

>typhoid spread by lice

>lice was traditionally killed with zyklon in the 1920s and 30s, look it up

>zyklon B only gas found at camps

>gas chambers with wooden doors? Disguised as showers?

>so ever wonder why the piles of bodies you see are bald? Cause the nazis wanted to prevent lice from being spread. Why hep the jews while killing them? And Zyklon B was used to kill lice probably but not to kill jews

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Jews were definitely interned. No one disputes that.
But they were just like gays, gypsies and slavs.
The Jews have definitely manipulated the events to their own economic and political advantage, as Jews have manipulated their hot countries since the beginning of time.

>>137632158
>So one would expect the jewish population today to be about 15 million again.
and then your own source says that the core population of jews is 15 million! congrats!
oh wait, you get confused about what "enlarged means" - it's pretty simple, its people who aren't jews but maybe are related to a jew.

take the longpill

>I must know the truth.
>Asking in an anime imageboard is a good idea.

You're not very smart, are you?

>tfw you truly pity these shabbos goys who defend the Holocaust™ so vehemently because the truth is simply too hard to accept

I will give you some advice because I pity you so much, DO NOT let (((them))) know you've fell for the Hollowmeme. Otherwise they'll immediately be at your doorstep trying to sell you magic beans. Which you'll probably fall for too.
Sad.

>>137632215
These are the claims you have posted in this thread so far.

>"4 million at auschwitz" was never a part of western holocaust scholarship to begin with?
>The soviets literally suppressed scholarship on the holocaust. Ilya Ehrenburg wrote a book about the holocaust of jews the soviet censors banned it because the soviet state thought it undermined the class war defeat of fascism narrative.
>The majority of deaths were outside germany proper, and the majority of deaths in germany proper were not official recorded.
>The strongest evidence is simple population statistics that proves ~6 million disappeared of the face of the earth.
>That is part of the reason many mass graves have not been found- the soviet states resisted western attempts to investigate.
>If someone claims that australia has pink kangeroos that can fly and snort cocaine, does that disprove that australia exists?

All bullshit, and unfortunately not evidence for the holocaust. No mass graves. No gas chambers. No orders or plans. Your posts read more like excuses for why there is no evidence.

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>>137632715
https://www.quora.com/Is-there-physical-scientific-proof-that-Jews-were-gassed-to-death-in-Nazi-concentration-camps/answer/Damian-Graves

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>>137632382
Yeah funny how media has never tried to visualize this because of how unbelievable and goofy as shit it is.

>>137632710
>its people who aren't jews but maybe are related to a jew
Like "all other people of Jewish parentage" and "children," i.e. jews.

>>137632142
HOLOCAUST:

an easy enough subject for anyone with esoteric interests to get the bottom of.
but a subject that in it's self WILL seperate the 'men from the boys' so to speak.

it all comes down to:
a, do you want to keep being "edgy" and "thinking outside the box", onyl pretending to see "how things are" when really you still sup your mothers nipple most nights or...
b, do you want to follow the truth, no matter what, to the ends of the earth if you have to, into the inevitable abyss it leads to.
its not pleasent you know, truth, its hidden from children for a reason.
"I can only lead you to the door, you have to walk through!"

well /pol/??

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>>137625882
There were camps, but they were all labour camps.
Hitler bothered to cloth, give shoes and dentistry for inmates. He wasn't a savage.

The allies bombed train cars full of "munitions and weaponry" that were actually full of jews. They caused the most deaths to jews unironically.

Typhoid spread because of all the death and lots of people NOT JUST JEWS got sickly and died. Those are the photos you've seen.

The Nazis then had to start burning the diseased dead bodies to try to halt infection.


Hollywood took this and spun it, as the Nazis were burning people alive, look here's the photos of malnurished poorly treated inmates, look, evil, let's go America!
...and here we are. What started as Germany just wanted to pull itself out of the filth, have it's own economy and freedom, resulted in the entire world being fed lies and fighting against them, all while Communism was being propped up and no one said shit about Stalin.

The Rothschilds couldn't have Germany being a shining example of what happens when you break free of central banking. They had to be destroyed.


Pic mega related, it's the plain truth about the financial aspect of Germany and how it involved the west.

>>137632298
I bet you get all your anti holocaust information from 1 youtube video source. Ignoring the horde of books and historians that cover the subject.

I'm not here to spoon feed you the same information that everyone hears in high school because you'll just say it's jew propaganda. You only care about pushing your political nazi narrative. This argument has been run to the ground for the last 3 years.

>>137632382
no, but I do believe the german soldiers who describe in detail how they cremated jews as efficiently as possible
>>137632514
I'm going to point out the most patently absurd claim, that "only 3.5 million jews lived in europe during that period"
The fact that you think this completely moronic claim has never been challenged says loads about your intellectual honesty.

I take FIVE SECONDS to google this claim - and find that the Jewish year book claims that only 3.5 millions SURVIVED that period, and that 9.5 million existed before.

http://ajcarchives.org/AJC_DATA/Files/1946_1947_13_Statistics.pdf

Fucking incredible

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, yet you can't take FIVE SECONDS to google your supposedly decisive argument

>>137632570
>so ever wonder why the piles of bodies you see are bald? Cause the nazis wanted to prevent lice from being spread
No no no, they shaved the hair off to stuff mattresses for little german children.

>>137625882
>>137626083
Start with some basic arithmetic. Seriously.

>>137632710
It's people who are liberal atheists except when they need pity points and have to say "As a Jew, remembering the holocaust is incredibly important..."

>>137632800
post IQ or gtfo

> not realising the world IS so wrecked the BEST place to ask is in a tibetan basket weaving forum.

not very smart are you anon? hmmmm

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Reminder that jewish holohoax shills LARP as Nazi's and promote easily refuted bullshit in order to discredit the revisionist movement as a whole.

>>137632382
>>137632514
>>137629628
this faggot being an example

I would like to mention, because I never ever see it mentioned, that, "Holocaust survivor" doesn't actually mean someone who survived the Holocaust™ as in they were in any camps. All you have to do to be considered a "Holocaust survivor" is be a Jew that lived in Germany between 1933-1945. That's all that's required. Even if you only live there for two days in 1933 and then went somewhere else you're officially a "Holocaust survivor".

>>137633073
it means adopted children you ravioli

>>137625882
All you need to know
https://youtu.be/ZxIin_c_hYI

Why would Hitler, in war time, waste money and funds on having shoes made for prisoners he was going to kill?

The entire fucking narrative can be pulled apart by a single thread, in every direction. The entire thing is EXTREME fan fiction from the jews and never happened.

Everyone who "escaped the camps" just so happened to escape a camp that "wasn't actually burning anyone alive".

They were all fucking labour camps. Hitler wasn't an animal murdering people.

The fucking camps had SOCCER TEAMS with GUARDS IN AMONGST THE PRISONERS for fucks sakes.

i think one day ill do a public service and make 15 jpegs that thoroughly prove the holocaust. It takes like 10 to debunk the most common lies (e.g, gas chambers not possible, cremation not possible, holocaust soviet myth, population didn't drop, look this camp had a pool)

>>137634030
>all other people of Jewish parentage
If they have jewish parentage, they are jews.

>it means adopted children
Where does it say this? Is this another one of your "claims?"

>>137633153
I've studied the holocaust for over two years from primary sources. It started in order to refute holocaust deniers, because like most people I took it for granted that the nazis killed 6 millions jews partly using gas chambers, then doubts set in, then I decided to research for myself. I have a Russell Group MA. I know how to do research. I have no personal interest in the holocaust being real one way or the other. My opinion having looked at the evidence is that what happened is nothing remotely like what we are routinely believed.

Forget the arguments for "holocaust denial" for a second. Look through this thread at the shills. What evidence have they posted for the holocaust for all their blogposts? Is it good enough for you? Aren't you surprised that the evidence is so flimsy for what is claimed to be the most documented event in history? I was.

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>>137634270
It is physically impossible to burn that many people in that amount of time with the facilities they had.

Most of the jews that did die, died in traincars that were bombed by the allies and falsely labelled to this day as "munitions".

Fuck off.

Pic related, the words of an evil racist, apparently.

>>137634300
this. you don't have to be a national socialist in order to doubt the holocaust.

>>137634270
Why don't you just post some evidence? You have made 15 posts. You could have posted some evidence in any of those posts. And yet you have not.

>>137626707
Where is the source for this? Who did the investigating?

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>>137633960
Disprove the shoahcoaster and masturbation machines etc. Go ahead. Jews made the claims, therefore its part of the holohoax. If you deny the shoahcoaster, youre a holohoax denier. The shoahcoaster is recorded history according to the Jews who experienced it. They would never lie, only an anti-semite would say that.

Jews dont just get to pretend they havent claimed theres a fucking holocoaster.

>>137634738
stop larping, I never said they existed

>>137634112
This is my new jam, great find anon!
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...samefaging just isn't the same anymore.

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>>137634189
The one that never makes sense is

>Hitler wanted all of the Jews out of Germany, whether it was exile or murder he didn't care
>Then the 6m figure comes up
>But there weren't 6m Jews in Germany at the time
>That's because he imported them back to Germany to kill them
>Even though his only aim was to get rid of them from Germany
>So he imported them to camps in Germany to kill them
>In camps that have been disproven as being used to kill anyone

It's such a ridiculous claim that the only way it makes sense is by using Jew (((logic))). I've honestly seen more believable James Bond villains.

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>>137635163

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>>137625882

A sondercommando claims he and others worked like this for a year. They even ate lunch among the bodies.

In real life doing this work like this would give you lethal cyanide exposure. He lied, and didn't know enough to make up the realistic details like the necessity of using PPE

A polish goverment study found that the ferric cyanide levels in aushowitz alleged gas chamber are in line with other buildings in the complex, that were routinely sprayed with xyklon b for fumigation

the delousing chamber is stained so heavily its blue on the outside

I've never seen any real physical evidence for a gas chamber.

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>>137635225

hey you know what would really make people agree with me? posting meme-tier info and copypasta instead of paraphrasing and explaining my actual stances in my own words.

you people aren't helping the revisionist movement.

>>137634521
because it says "all other peoples," and I can read english
>>137634602
I have personally calculated the incineration capacity of auschwitz.

42 ovens * 2 jews/(oven * hour) * (24 hour / day) * (365 day / year) * 3 years = like 3 million jews or something, plug it in your phone
>>137634704
http://collections1.yadvashem.org/list.asp
all the documents are online, I posted a few compilations of the most important documents. If you want to read a comprehensive book, read "black earth" by timothy snyder

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>>137625882
Fake. Hitler was a jewish plant and Germans were a bunch of useful idiots who helped jews subjugate Europe and the whole World.

>>137629065
So it was 4 million ....

>>137634189
>Why would Hitler, in war time, waste money and funds on having shoes made for prisoners he was going to kill?
Most jews that died from gassing got gassed immediately on arrival to the camp.

>Everyone who "escaped the camps" just so happened to escape a camp that "wasn't actually burning anyone alive".
Obviously. The umbrella term "Holocaust survivor" refers to any jew who lived under Nazi germany influence and survived. The majority of holocaust survivors survived the war by avoiding the extermination camps. Simple logic bro

>The fucking camps had SOCCER TEAMS with GUARDS IN AMONGST THE PRISONERS for fucks sakes.
Calm your fee fees. The soccer team was composed strictly of RAF captured pilots, and was dismantled early in war

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>>137634983
>>137635173
>>137634602
Does anyone know WHEN the American media began advertising 6 million?
Cuz I'm pretty sure it began BEFORE America joined the war and the number never changed afterword.

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>>137634709
It's just what happened. Take Dachau. It was claimed for years that there were gassings at Dachau. Even a holocaust denier, Dr Larson, claims there were, because that's what we were all told. >>137628024 However, now no one claims there were gassings at Dachau. We know this because the Allies inspected the camps and confirmed it. The USHMM has had to state this explicitly on their website, because claims that there were gassings at Dachau damage the credibility of the holocaust story, because we know for a fact there were none. The room that is claimed to be a gas chamber is still there. We can investigate it. Even just looking at it, it's clear it was not a homicidal gas chamber. Same for Bergen Belsen. It was not a death camp. Anne Frank did not die from a holocaust. She and the rest of the people there died from typhus/starvation. Pic related is American soldiers inspecting the fumigation rooms at Dachau.

>>137625882
[The contents of this post are hidden because they've been written in a country where questioning the official version of this specific historical period takes you to jail]

>>137635173
The camps weren't in Germany. But yes, hitler did indeed import jews into Germany. As forced laborers in concentration camps.

>>137634602
He was just softening his speech. It' something all politicians do.

>>137635441
>I posted a few compilations of the most important documents
No you haven't. >>137629842 The ones you posted do not support the claim that 6 million jews were killed by the nazis partly from gassing. Where are the mass graves? Where are the plans and orders? How did they come up with the 6 million number?

>>137634983
>2.4 million jews before the war, according to the world jewish encyclopedia
nonsense, there 9.5 million jews.
>>137635070
holocaust total death numbers come from subtracting jews before holocaust minus jews after holocaust, not adding up individual camp deaths

>>137635163
http://www.nizkor.org/features/denial-of-science/blue.html
completely discredited

>>137631659
"Many mass graves have not been found" because of the anti Semitic communist do you even hear yourself .

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>>137635462
No, thats a pile of shit. Majdanek alone proves its not 6 but 4, and thats 1 camp. Auschwitz also was dropped down to similar numbers for example. Only 300k Jews were killed in the entire prison camp system, and less than 1 million after you account for the Einsatzgruppen partisan executions in the east, which were just communist war casualties really, but even if you add them on.. its like 5-800k total. Go check the wikijew numbers for Einsatzgruppen and realize that things like Babi Yar rely on one single persons testimony, and the physical evidence does not support it.

Also, the allies did use torture, so no testimony is reliable.

>>137635163
>holohoax32.png
jesus christ
remember what I said about spamming poorly researched evidence instead of actually arguing singular points?

>>137635503
Ah yes, those camps where you can just casually store 5000 dead bodies in the ole back shed there.

Fuck off.

Post proofs please. Post me a proof of how they actually killed people, incinerated them, how many people it would have taken, how long it would've taken and exact real proof of this with the real facilities supposedly involved.

Basic maths says the entire thing is a fucking sham.

>>137635971
http://www.shamash.org/holocaust/denial/nazi_doc.txt
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/how-to-refute-holocaust-denial
see "What proof exists that the Nazis practiced genocide or deliberately killed six million Jews?"
http://collections1.yadvashem.org/list.asp
search "final solution"

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>>137635983
>holocaust total death numbers come from subtracting jews before holocaust minus jews after holocaust, not adding up individual camp deaths
I will tell you how they came up with the number.

Here is the original World Almanac showing no population drop.

>World Almanac says no population drop during the war.
https://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2012/11/08/the-holocaust-6-million-lie-population-of-jews-1938-15-748-million-

But yes. The numbers were revised. Let's examine how.

Here in this jewish source, they explain.

http://www.nizkor.org/features/denial-of-science/worldalmanac.html

NB how in 1949 the World Almanac mysteriously revised its post-war figure to 11 million (they don't explain how). However, this still didn't fit their story of 6 million. So they also had to mysteriously revise their pre-war figure by 1 million too (they don't explain how).

1948 actual: 15,753,638
1949 revised: 11,266,600
1938 actual: 15,748,091
1939 revised: 16,643,120

That means that, despite all the chaos of pre-WWII Europe, during 1 year the jewish population mysteriously EXPLODED by 895,029 or 5.7%, or 285% faster than the world population growth rate at this time of around 2%.

cont.

>>137635225
>"Can you give me one scientific report that shows the existence of gas chambers anywhere in Nazi-occupied territory?"
>"I am at a loss," Hilberg replied

Pretty damning....

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>>137636329
Post it itt mate. Post your best evidence for the holocaust.

>government conspiracy
>gas chambers
>6 million

Let's see it.

>>137631530
nonsense - modern crematories are meant to respectably dispose of dead, the nazis jammed in as many bodies as the ovens could handle
http://www.phdn.org/archives/holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/body-disposal/

>>137625882
it did, but the nubers were highly inflated.

in reality, only about a million jews died, which is literally nothing in WW2 terms

>>137635441
>42 ovens * 2 jews/(oven * hour) * (24 hour / day) * (365 day / year) * 3 years = like 3 million jews or something, plug it in your phone

Ah yes, that's completely logical.

2 jews, working without break for 3 years nonstop burning jews.

3 years, hmm, that seems a bit odd for the timeline. Hmm, 42 ovens you say? Did Auchswitz have 42 ovens?

Loading up how many per hour into how many ovens?

Have you actually plugged into your little calculation, how long a fucking body actually takes to be incinerated? Because your math is weak as fuck.

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>>137636329
>yad vashem

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>>137636598
>jamming bodies into coal burning ovens makes them burn faster

>>137635971
>Where are the mass graves?
http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.co.at/2009/03/photographic-documentation-of-nazi.html

> Where are the plans and orders?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRO04q_lQi4
https://fcit.usf.edu/holocaust/resource/document/DocJager.htm

>How did they come up with the 6 million number?

Census

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>>137635983
>the Jews lied about how many they had

Typical marxist kike, openly denies official statistics. Your line about how its people and not jews changes nothing because we both know it was almost exclusively Jews in those camps anyways.

This door alone proves youre full of shit, completely full of holes in every way. The official numbers released by the USSR in the 90s, the enemy of National Socialist Germany, says 400k people total, 300k Jews. Thats the official number, the Jew York Times even cited it. You take that 300k, mix it with the official Einsatzgruppen numbers which are about 400k themselves, cut a couple 130 and 100k's down to their real numbers of like 30k or less, and you have the real number which is about 500k Jews.

>>137636598
ah yes, just jam the bodies in there! That'll make the ovens efficiently burn through people and not take 12 fucking days for just 3 bodies because of the lack of proper heating circulation and ventilation. Just....jam them in there!

Holy fuck you're retarded.

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>>137636401
Look at who was making these revisions. It wasn't the World Almanac on its own. There was another organisation called the American Jewish Committee working with them, producing a different set of data.

If true, it would mean that despite all the chaos of post-WWII Europe, some random agency in America was able to make more accurate censuses of pre-war Europe than the World Almanac could at the time in question.

It would also mean that, despite all the chaos of pre-WWII Europe, during 1 year the jewish population mysteriously EXPLODED by 895,029 or 5.7%, or 285% faster than the world population growth rate at this time of around 2%.

The Nikzor source itself explains that the numbers weren't revised because of a new census.

"WHERE THE EXTRA POPULATION BETWEEN 1938 AND 1939 CAME FROM IS NOT CITED, THOUGH ONE MIGHT SPECULATE..."

No, merely to fit retroactively the mystical number of 6 million, as stated in the letter at the bottom of the source.

"THE AUTHORITIES AGREE THAT HITLER'S WHOLESALE MASSACRE OF JEWS DURING THE WAR REDUCED THE JEWISH POPULATION TO PERHAPS 12 MILLION TODAY."

What authorities? By what means? Not the World Almanac, that is certain. The AJC just lied.

It is all a lie. Please learn to live with that historical fact.

>>137636598
You idiot, his post is saying you can't physically burn that many bodies that fast. It's not a matter of "jamming bodies into the ovens," it's a matter of how long it physically takes to reduce a body and bones to ash.

>>137625882
Not really on topic but an interesting read for people who do think the holocaust is real and don't only want to read about nazis being bad.
I think it happened but we have a very simplified view of it, americans were heroes, germans were villains, french were cowards etc.
In reality i don't think that conflict had that many positive characters in it, most people stop caring about everyone else once their own life is in danger and this article illustrates that well.
http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/books/99982/the-treblinka-gold-rush

>>137636890
they perfected a technique where once one jew was almost cooked they'd put in the next one for more efficiency, or they could have multiple 80 pounds jews at once

read the source dumbass

>>137627810
>>Nearly 14,000 prisoners would die after liberation.
So if you shoot someone and they die 4 hours later in hospital that makes the doctors responsible? DESU probably not a defence that would work but you go ahead what do I know

>>137636829
Nice blogspot. Show us a single mass grave at any of the death camps where it is claimed a population the size of LA was killed.

>Census
No it wasn't. They just made it up.
>>137636401
>>137637100

>>137636208
>moving the goalposts this blatantly

If you want a concise explanation about Holocaust and how it happened i would suggest you to read some books about the subject. I'm not gonna explain to you everything.

>if you can't provide proof that satisfies my arbitrary and extremely pedantic terms i win and you lose hahahahah

>>137636598
I don't even completely believe the whole "holocaust isn't real" thing but how could you think that jamming bodies in makes burning easier? Anyone who knows the basics of a fire and burning know that starving out oxygen is the not going to work for a fire. You are a moron, you should just quit now.

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>>137636680
>Did Auchswitz have 42 ovens?
52 actually

>Have you actually plugged into your little calculation, how long a fucking body actually takes to be incinerated? Because your math is weak as fuck.

>It is known from cremations carried out in 1874 that a 47-pound child could be cremated in 25 minutes, a 144-pound woman in 50 minutes and a 227-pound man in 55 minutes.
William Eassie, Cremation of the Dead (London:1875),106-108; See also Scientific American , Vol. 30, May 9, 1874, p. 295 and Vol. 117, 1917, p. 22.

>In 1875 it was reported that a body could be cremated in 50 minutes.
H.R.Haweis, Ashes to Ashes (London:1875), 101

>In Germany of the 1880s it was possible to cremate a body and the coffin which housed it in 60 to 75 minutes.
Transactions of the Cremation Society of England (London: 1885),60

>>137637258
ah yes, the source, the novel written by literally whostein

German's perfected a technique specifically for killing jews. I guess jews burn hotter and faster, nice!

So they just...pile on the bodies one after the other. Where's all that 6 million humans worth of ash go to? Oh, do we have some downtime now where some other little jews have to come in and clean it all out again?


Fuck off. Your math is completely fucking retarded and bogus.

You cannot find me one working example of 50 pigs being burned in similar situation and facility a day, let alone a zillion humans.

Get the fuck out of here, shill.

>>137637300
>the nazis invented delayed effect holocaust
Please read what you write before you post it. Those people died after liberation because they were not being actively killed. They died of the same things that the people before liberation were dying of, typhus and starvation, not holocaust. Everyone in Germany was suffering from that. They weren't holocausting themselves too.

>>137637437
>>137637131
crematories burn people to a fine ash.

In a nazi crematory, when one person is mostly reduced in volume, you can stick another one instead of waiting. Also, you can have multiple children/severely emaciated people at once.
This brought down the traditional time it takes of 1.5 hours to about .5 hours minimum

>>137627810
>Zyklon B was also used by the British Empire for fumigating passenger ships and food granaries, as discussed in these journals.
Sharp knives used by surgeons to save lives, therefore can never be used to harm someone? I think you have to leave the echo chamber just say once a week or so, just to get some kind of objective perspective of reality

>>137637363
>moving the goalposts yet again

>No it wasn't
wow, i guess you are right!!

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>>137636668
The gas chambers probably weren't real either. Pic related is Krema I at Auschwitz, and the building across from it was the camp's SS canteen and hospital. Those two extractors behind the chimney are supposed to have vented the chamber after every gassing, so the proximity of the two buildings simply doesn't make sense.

Additionally, according to official sources the chamber was "restored" from an air raid shelter and hospital crematory to its current state.

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>>137637861
>Sharp knives used by surgeons to save lives, therefore can never be used to harm someone?
No indeed.

>>137637100
fucking intellectual dishonest nazi scum

The 1949 almanac ORIGINAL FIGURES show a population drop of ~6 million. Nazis intentionally use 1948, the last year before new census data started coming, to make their intellectual dishonest point. You think the population magically declined 6 million from 48-49 for unrelated reasons?

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>>137637908
These paid shills who show up every single time with the same flags and the same garbage fallacious dismissals are losing this battle. Its the ADL you know. Thats where these people come from, and these are their own statistics. They know about this place and they know about full/pol/ too. Video related. The guy youre arguing with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_fbBWxxAFs

If you think these kikes dont shill here, youre delusional.

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>>137637674
you can use ad hom arguments but you can't argue with the sources sources

>Where's all that 6 million humans worth of ash go to? Oh, do we have some downtime now where some other little jews have to come in and clean it all out again?
whats a chimney?

>>137637399
ah, yes, read some books


the same books that will tell me about the masturbation machines, or the rollercoasters, the lamp shades

the same books that give you no actual math basis for any of it and it's entirely feefees.

Again, explain to me the whole process.

How long it takes for one body to burn through apparently, how much fuel was used to do this, how much ash was left over, how quickly this ash accumulated, how long it took to clean this out, where this was stored/buried, how long that took, how many people could realistically fit into the oven at once, how long THIS would take to burn though, how many people are required to lift the bodies, where these gas'd bodies in their millions are stored before the cremation, and then finally, explain to me why they were given clothing and shoes on arrival to the camp.

I want you to really think about every fucking step of this supposed story. In real world terms. Real man hours, real man effort. Real fucking physics.

You couldn't burn 2 million people in a fucking automated japanese robot facility built in 2010 in a year, let alone more than that in less time in their rickety fucking lousing chambers.

Fuck off.

>>137637674
>Where's all that 6 million humans worth of ash go to?
Do deniers actually think this is some sort of argument? Do you know that it rains in Poland? Do you know that ash is a good fertilizer?

Ash was dumped into rivers, buried, given to nearby farmers as fertilizer...

>>137637600
52 ovens huh? Mind showing me picture evidence of this marvelous array of ovens constructed purely for the wasteage of fuel?

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>>137638322
Of course I do. I know them all well. I also know who is more persuasive among lurkers out of my friends and I. Holohoax affirmation is more unpopular than it's ever been.

>>137631659
You do realize that FOR THE PAST 25 YEARS the soviet states have been dead and anyone could go there and find these "mass graves" right?
Clothes, skeletons, other bits should be easy enough to find at any of these places, after all, there's 6 million of them right?

>>137638479
Ah okay, so we now do have downtime where you have to clean out this oven.

Tell me, little faggot, have you ever actually owned even a simple fireplace? You know that burning a wooden log doesn't just erase the wooden log, right? You have to clean the fucking thing out almost every time to rid of the ol coals or the fireplace doesn't work properly.


So, you've got this compounded fucktarded logic of how they somehow burned all these bodies, yet now we also have bullshit about how the ashes were just magically whisked away to the nearby river (where is that, how far? What crops? How far?). Tell me, how long would this have taken? Did we have 12 teams of men on constant relay simply transporting ashes now?

>How long it takes for one body to burn through apparently, how much fuel was used to do this, how much ash was left over, how quickly this ash accumulated, how long it took to clean this out, where this was stored/buried, how long that took,
chimneys?

>muh impossible burning
There was a great deal of testimony about the practice of multiple burnings at Auschwitz. Alter Feinsilber, a Sonderkommando - one who removed the dead bodies from the gas chambers to be cremated - stated that five bodies "burned more quickly in that quantity." [158] The SS guard Pery Broad wrote that four or five bodies could be held in each oven in Kremas II and III. [159] Sonderkommando Filip Müller stated that three or four could be incinerated at a time. [160] Sonderkommando Szlama Dragon testified that three bodies were incinerated at a time. [161] Two prisoners who escaped in April 1944, whose report was based on information received from Sonderkommandos, stated that three bodies would be burned at a time. [162] Mieczyslaw Morawa, a worker in the crematoria, testified that tests done on the Birkenau crematoria before they became fully operational showed that three bodies could be simultaneously burned in a period of 40 minutes in each of the 15 ovens in Krema II. He stated that these tests were conducted with a stopwatch by the SS. [163]

>finally, explain to me why they were given clothing and shoes on arrival to the camp.
is this a serious question? they were given shitty shoes and shitty clothes because most jews were worked for some time before death, if you're going to keep them alive for at least a few weeks they need clothes.

modern crematories can easily burn a body in 60 minutes- how is less than that so fucking hard to believe when standards of treating the dead are discarded?

>>137638362
>chimneys are for ashes
kys
I've been to Aushwitz. the place looks unfit to be a chicken coop, let alone some big bad jew oven

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>>137638479
>ALL THE EVIDENCE GOT RAINED ON
Poor show Nationalist View. Usually you're better than this. Making me think you're just a proxy shill.

>>137629963
>the majority of deaths in germany proper were not official recorded
OK. Where's the proof that they happened?

>>137625882
Most jews died of typhus not being gassed.

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>>137638346

>>137639109
-population totals - 6 million jews disappeared (use 1949 world almanac populations vs those from 30s, subtract entire population of israel if you want)
-official documents detailing plans for final solution
-thousands of testimonies, german and jewish
-physical evidence, e.g, existence of camps

>>137637730
>they were not being actively killed
ok so you stave and mistreat someone but they actually die of a disease then the disease killed them and not the mistreatment that caused that disease....and that's the truth your honour I dindo nuffin
Do you realise how ridiculous you sound to anyone who isn't a larping moron?

Modern facilities built to dispose of cow and animal carcasses en masse cannot even do the load of the supposed auchswitz.

This is in a present capitalistic frenzied society where everything must be done as quickly as possible for the sake of sales and consumption.

If you take a trip to your local pig slaughterhouse, and then spend more than 1 hour with a fireplace, you know the entire holocaust story is bullshit.

>>137638403
>the same books that will tell me about the masturbation machines, or the rollercoasters, the lamp shades
Obviously no. no scholarly book ever seriously claimed this.

>How long it takes for one body to burn through apparently
Depends on the body, the crematorium and the conditions

> how much fuel was used to do this
Same response as above

>how much ash was left over
You are free to make the calculations

> how long it took to clean this out
A couple of minutes.

>where this was stored/buried

Depends on the camp. But most of it was buried or dumped in nearby water reservoirs

>how many people could realistically fit into the oven at once,
Depends on the oven. But in auschwitz it could be 3 or 4 persons, taking in account that 1 or 2 had to be children

> how many people are required to lift the bodies
?
>where these gas'd bodies in their millions are stored before the cremation
In the crematorium

>explain to me why they were given clothing and shoes on arrival to the camp.

They aren't. Those destined to death are gassed immediately on arrival.

I was on the fence for a long time from casually looking up info in the free time

This is what convinced me that most of it was BS..i couldn't believe what I was seeing in the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuAAjrbbBiM

>>137638104
except you have survivors from places like sobibor etc. you only make yourself look bad. you cant change the history bub. the moon landing was real.

>>137639487
>official documents detailing plans for final solution
that doesn't exist

>>137639512
>ok so you stave and mistreat someone but they actually die of a disease then the disease killed them and not the mistreatment that caused that disease
The nazis took proper precautions to prevent the spread of typhus lice, shaving of heads, showers, Zyklon B disinfectant, etc, but there was then no vaccine or cure for typhus, then society collapsed at the end of the war.

Regardless, that is not the point. A few hundred thousand jews dying of typhus is NOT what we're taught the holocaust was.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Himmler_Posen_Speech_-_Extermination_of_the_Jews_excerpt,_Oct_4,_1943.ogg

you could have the entire nazi party walk out of their graves and admit it happened, and people would still deny.
>>137639919
pic related

>>137639921
there was a vaccine produced during the war, it wasn't given to the germans.

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>>137639786
>except you have survivors from places like sobibor etc.

lol sure you do. You have double tripple survivors, each with more unbelivable heroic story than the next

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/auschwitz-survivor-gena-turgel-walked-out-gas-chamber-alive-n293496

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>>137639786
>you have survivors from places like sobibor
It sounded terrible there. Unbelievable even.

>>137640145
evidence for holocaust
>population statistics
>official documents
evidence against
>some people wanting to feel special made up stuff

>>137637855
Your explanation against there being less oxygen is that in the end they are fine ash anyways? I really hope you aren't serious... I can't actually believe someone wouldn't know the basic principles behind how burning things works.

>>137638503
It was literally in the pic related

>>137639015
>Ah okay, so we now do have downtime where you have to clean out this oven.
Do you have a fireplace in your home? Ash poured to a "reservoir" underneath the muffle. You just have to take it out, dump the ash somewhere, and put it back in. Literally takes seconds to do this.~

> yet now we also have bullshit about how the ashes were just magically whisked away to the nearby river
Literally store the ash in boxes, load a truck, and dump it in a river. Auschwitz was built almost on the margin of a large river.

great now I no longer know what to think.
Thanks pol and shills.

the thing about the holocaust is holocaust deniers will never be able to explain where the 6 million jews went, they will never explain why orders exist asking for the extermination of the jewish people

so they make a 1000 artifact ridden jps about this or that, most of it nonsense

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>>137640145
>how many holocausts did you survive
>like 1 my dude
>you are like a little baby, watch this

>>137638209
>the last year before new census data started coming

Or was it the last year before their publishers intervened? And I love how your post totally ignores the subsequent revision of the 1939 figures.

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>>137629143
While i don't disagree with the holocaust, i disagree with the 6/7/4 million figure. We don't know how many people actually died and why, and that's just... weird considering how big it hipotetically is.

>>137639659
>the reddit spacing
I knew it

When I asked you how much fuel, how long it would take to burn, how many minutes to clean, I wasn't expecting an actual answer from you, because there isn't one you can give.

If you honestly think it takes a couple minutes to clean out apparently 52 ovens full of human ash, mate, you need help.

Please show me in actual realistic sense how any of this is possible. You can't say "oh they just stored those dead bodies in the crematorium" then also tell me HOW MANY FUCKING BODIES they apparenlty killed.

There was just 5000 pile mountain of corpses sitting inside? What?

Please just stop. I've asked you numerous times to explain the real world logistics, with account to real space, real time, real physics and you can't do it. You just keep telling me to look at the source.

The source has no explanation for any of this. Just baseless numerals of apparent end results.

>>137640267
>population statistics
See >>137632158 >>137636401 >>137637100

>official documents
Such as?

>>137640267
There are no official documents .

Whatever official documents were recovered from the soviet archives that the soviets didn't burn testify against the holohoax story.

Like death records from Aushwitz detailing how people died of illness or old age.

Or the Auwhwitz guard manual detailing how to feed and treat the prisoners

>>137639085
The ash from a major forest fire disappears after some months, and you are saying that body ash should exist after more then 70 years?

kek

>>137640276
no
when you burn a body in a crematory, they burn very quickly at first when it is fat burning, but most of the time is spent burning the bones. Buy sticking in a new jew when the old jew is just bones widdling away, you speed of the process. This is enough to get the crematories down from 1 hour - 2 hour per person to about half that. Also, of course you can have multiple small children at once

>>137639921
The point is where are you going with this shit, do you seriously think you're going to change anyone's mind about Hitler? Just fucking drop it, it all happened a long time ago, it's a waste of time, it's just giving ammunition to the left.

>>137640427
A picture of a document showing writing of ovens isn't the same as a picture of the ovens, retard.

I asked for proof, not text proving nothing.

Where is the pic of these 52 ovens. If they were dismantled, show me where they used to be installed. How were they dismantled? Where did this machinery go? Was this transported somewhere? Why?

Where are the 52 ovens of Auchwitz, please.

>>137638209
>fucking intellectual dishonest nazi scum
I'm not a nazi, nor intellectually dishonest. The World Almanac did not show a population drop until the AJC informed them, on what basis we do not know, that there were 6 million less jews in the world.

>>137640759
So you still literally have no idea how oxygen and fire work together. Oh god, this is honestly making me not want to be on your side anymore.

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>>137638362
in the picture, you'll see what cremated remains look like. but they just fly through the chimney and get destroyed by rain n shit, right? fuckwit

>>137640759
lmao why don't you try that on yourself see how that goes

even a modern oven will cause a fire if you attempt that, let alone the crude shit even by 1940 standards they had in aushwitz.

it's almost as if they weren't made for mass murder

>>137640769
>do you seriously think you're going to change anyone's mind
Yes. Look at this board. No one believes muh 6 gorillion here. In open debate the official, legally enforced holocaust story is not supported by the evidence.

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Proper red pill this time.

Zyklon B was specifically designed for user safety. Its hydrogen cyanide saturated chalk pellets were stable at room temperature and had to have hot air blown through them to release the gas. This meant that accidentally opening a canister or preparing a delousing chamber were no longer fatally dangerous without a respirator.

Where are these hot air blowers? Majdanek apparently has one, but its chambers are also stained blue. So if we follow the explanation for Auschwitz's lack of stains, then they must have been delousing chambers.

>>137640535
>have no argument
>"le pleddit spacing"

I can tell you for a fact that i've been here longer then you, and i visited leddit less then you

>If you honestly think it takes a couple minutes to clean out apparently 52 ovens full of human ash, mate, you need help.

it takes a couple of minutes to clean each oven you retard.

>There was just 5000 pile mountain of corpses sitting inside? What?
Where do you get this number?

>>137640492
>Or was it the last year before their publishers intervened?
or maybe the first you could collect any data in a continent completely annihilate by war?
>And I love how your post totally ignores the subsequent revision of the 1939 figures.
because I don't even understand what you're talking about
>>137640615
himmler posen speech
himmler '42 report
jager report
wannsee protocol
operation reinhard

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>>137640821
>your proof is not proof because shit and giggles.

>Where is the pic of these 52 ovens.

>>137640619
again, we have a recording of himmler talking about exterminating the jews

>>137625882
You can't prove a negative. If you want evidence of the holocaust pushers are bullshiting, look at that masterbation machine, jew soap, jew lampshades, the holocoaster, the fact that only soviet liberated camps were deathcamps, the survivers confirmed to be bullshiting ect

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>>137641013
>in the picture, you'll see what cremated remains look like
This is the amount of remains emaciated typhus victims left behind at Auschwitz. Now all we have to do is find the literal mountain of the million (formerly 4 million) others and we can all go home.

>>137639786
Nice deflection. If one aspect of the official account is found to be false, even in just one camp, it calls everything else into question.

And I do believe the moon landings happened as the Americans say.

>>137625882
The Holocaust was real but it wasn't the Nazis who did it. The Nazis put jews in concentration camps yes, because in Weimar the jews basically owned everything and got fat while the Germans starved, so the Nazis reversed the tables and put the jews to work while the Germans ran things. And hey what do you know with the Germans in charge of the German economy it boomed. Then during the war the allies cut off supply lines to germany so nazis had a choice feed the prisoners and starve the soldiers or feed the soldiers and starve the prisoners. So they did the latter. Basically put the jews on the same sort of diet the jews put the palestinians on today. Some jews died of disease and starvation in the camps, but the Germans didn't holocaust anyone.

Stalin and the Soviets are the ones who executed all the jews in the camps that the USSR occupied. Stalin already slaughtered the Jews in the Soviet government. Then he gets to Germany finds a bunch more jews in camps and what is he supposed to do, just let them go and let them file legal claims for all the shit the Soviets just took from Germany? Naw dog, Stalin killed all the jews in the camps. Was it 6 million? Nope, but it was enough.

Look it up too, the only 'death camps' where jews were killed were in the parts of Germany taken by the soviets. Soviets made the big lie about the Holocaust, and the Jews went along with it because they hated the Nazis more than Stalin and they didn't really have a choice. They kept it going because they don't want Communism to be seen as responsible for the Holocaust, since Jews are still trying to push it wherever the y can.

>>137640933
wtf are you saying?

You think that when you have maybe a few pounds of solid matter left in an oven, you can't put in another body without decreasing efficiency? Nazi operators of the gas chambers testified in great detail about this

>>137641621
>If one aspect of the official account is found to be false, even in just one camp, it calls everything else into question.
Why don't you apply the same criteria to deniers?

none of that shit could have happened in those camps because there has been no evidence that any of them are haunted

>>137640435
the holocaust is a funny story
first I was sceptical
then I was sure it didnt happen
then I wasnt sure
now I simply dont care at all.
I like Hitler but I pretend as the holocaust did happen, so I dont get in trouble.

But I am quite sure that the numbers are way way to high. I absolutly do not believe in any industrial extermination. Just think about the wasted workforce, witch is by far the best argument in the debate. It wouldnt have been to hard to make gulag style camps.
But I am pretty sure that individual low rank oficiers ordered to kill jews in some cases. For instance if the transportation costs to work camps werent effecient etc.

>>137640440
They didnt went anywhere, give me a list of the dead jews faggot.
Orders can be faked very easily

HImmlers speach (witch I believe is fake, but lets assume it isnt) Doesnt say anything about a massmurdering of kikes but it describes a single event.

>>137641168
>Yes. Look at this board.
whether it's real or not is irrelevant, in most people's minds and i'm talking about most human beings not the arseholes on /pol/: 6 million died, Hitler was a bad guy. Why the fuck are you trying to clear Hitler's name? There are bigger, more relevant issues than your autism

>>137641848
>deniers post hundreds of jpegs claiming that there were only 3 million jews in pre-war europe, arguing sacred numerology nonsense, etc etc

no problem, just post the next bullshit claim

>a few confused old people make stuff up
HOLOCAUST FAKE

>>137641848
I do and so does the entire world. The difference however, is that *revisionists* question individual statements and pieces of evidence. They are calling a narrative into question, not creating one.

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>>137625882
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RddqP0ABzwM

Numbers may be off by a little or a lot, and some points may have been made up, or played up for poignancy, but by the looks things, it most likely did happen.

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>>137641424
>himmler posen speech
A single mistranslated word in a dubious speech is not sufficient.

>himmler '42 report
Not evidence for government conspiracy, gas chambers or 6 million.

>wannsee protocol
Please show us where it talks about anything remotely like a holocaust in here. It clearly talks about emigration and resettlement, not holocausts.

http://www.yadvashem.org/docs/wannsee-conference-protocol

>operation reinhard
No one denies the nazis used euthanasia for eugenics purposes.

>>137641489
That's not really an official document. Even if the tape is authentic and it's not one of the many fuckeries that were going on in the Nuremberg trials it does not prove that millions of jews were killed in Gas chambers.. Hitler used similar extremist language against the Jews German parliment, but holohoax promoters claim the project was top secret so that's why they aren't any documents

He could be reffering to other immoral things they did to Jews, like forcibly removing them from their homes, or the uprisings they had to put down.

That this is the "gotcha" evidence you're presenting proves there isn't much to it

>>137640769
>Just fucking drop it, it all happened a long time ago, it's a waste of time, it's just giving ammunition to the left.

Fuck off reddit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=jMqQBLZwRIE

>>137642521
In the speach he clearly says that they killed jews.
However he talks about a single event.

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>>137642022
>whether it's real or not is irrelevant
No it's not. It's the topic of this thread.

>6 million died
No they didn't. There's no evidence of that and a lot of counter-evidence.

>Hitler was a bad guy
You are free to think so.

>Why the fuck are you trying to clear Hitler's name?
I'm not. I'm just interested in truthful history.

>There are bigger, more relevant issues than your autism
It sounds like you're not really interested in the holocaust anon. Please read pic related.

>>137642172
>I do and so does the entire world.
Plenty of their bullshit claims have been debunked itt. Doesn't that raise red flags for you?

>>137642504
>A single mistranslated word in a dubious speech is not sufficient.
incredible. Just smack those adjective in their without justification.

>Not evidence for government conspiracy, gas chambers or 6 million.
well, by the standard that it doesn't literally prove the entire holocaust no, but strong evidence regardless
>Please show us where it talks about anything remotely like a holocaust in here. It clearly talks about emigration and resettlement, not holocausts.
it proves that nazis intended to remove all jews from their lands. What do you think happens when that's no longer an option?

>>137642504
you understand that article doesn't say what you think? It's arguing that the final solution was agreed upon before wannasse, not that it isn't evidence for the holocaust

>>137642586
Hasn't belgium ether surrendered or been beaten within 10 minutes of every war they fought? Fuck off retarded frog

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>>137642022
Also, if it's not relevant or important, why is it illegal to talk about across most of Europe?

>>137641786
Post the testimonies. I seriously doubt they somehow magically broke the laws of physics and made it so fire could burn more effectively with less oxygen.

>>137642836
thats the point.
Hitler was neither retarded nor sadistic.

>>137642521
>>137642851
I would be interested if you have an alternative english translation, but all the ones I see clearly show that it describes a massive all jewish holocaust

>>137642851
Forcibly removing people from their homes and forcing them to march in crowded camps does kill people...weak hungry, old.

Not to mention the many uprisings that happened.

However the Jews suffering during WW2 is not even 5% of Russian.

>>137643109
>the final solution was agreed upon before wannasse
Proof please.

>>137631231
Good argument.

My german great grandfather went door to door executing Jewish families who failed to leave their home.

>>137642890
>It sounds like you're not really interested in the holocaust anon
I'm interested in the the bigger picture and how holocaust denial is in any way useful. Top tip: it's not

GET IN HERE
>>137641245
>>137641245
>>137641245

>>137643307
It was a 4 hour speech in which he devoted 10 minutes to the Jews. Right after he mentions extermination (which is ambigious word and can be translated differently) he doesn't mention gas chambers or aushwitz, but this..

>Believe me, I've had lots of trouble with many units of the economic apparatus. I cleared out big Jewish ghettos in the area of the lines of communication. In Warsaw, we had four weeks of street-fighting in the ghetto. Four weeks! We had to clean out around 700 bunkers. The whole ghetto was making fur coats, dresses, and the like. Time was, if you tried to lay a hand on that place, you'd be told: Stop! You're interferring with the war effort. Stop! This is part of the armaments industry. — Of course, Party Comrade Speer had nothing to do with that. There is nothing you people can do about it. It is a part of the so-called armaments industry that Comrade Speer and I will be cleaning up in the forthcoming weeks and months. We will do this quite unsentimentally, as all things must be done in the fifth year of the war, without sentiment but with a stout heart for Germany.

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>>137625882
My Grandfather's family was almost entirely executed.

It's cause he was Slavic though, our entire family says the Jews just bullshitted the numbers to make it about them. So yeah, even victims of the holocaust deny the holocaust as it is presented now.

Not trying to prove anything either way here, just putting it out there so it can really make your jumbles a-bumble.

>>137643833
no, fuck you

>>137642978
Of course man. Most of them are simply trying to defend their Nazi symapthies. Some of them are even open about that, like Ernst Zundel.

They have however made me suspicious, so I'm trying to look at it objectively. The fact that Europe's Jews were put in camps at all was a crime, but I think the gas chambers were a rumour that got out of hand and was adopted as official propoganda to quell post-war resistance in Germany.

I wish there could just be open discussion about it, without all the anger and conflicts of interest. I understand why there isn't though, Israel's situation is precarious enough as is.

The Ashkenazi Khazarian bloodline from one of the tribes of Israel helped Hitler purge the NON "royal bloodline" Jewish people believing anyone but them is not really a deserving human but livestock to be used, robbed, murdered. Soros is a Ashkenazi Khazarian Jew. Hitler's mother, Angela Merkel, the Rothchilds. So the word "Nazi" was attributed to the ruthless murderers who were, in fact, Jewish themselves. . Soros said helping Hitler was the happiest he has ever been-robbing and murdering Jews.

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>>137631231
>your synagogue of Satan


brit fag the HQ of synagogue of satan is in the city of london :)

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>>137641786
>Nazi operators of the gas chambers testified in great detail about this
Yes. Such as Kurt Gerstein, who claimed that nearly a million jews were gassed at Treblinka using diesel engines. You are free to read and believe it if you wish. Shame there are no mass graves there to corroborate his story.

>Like basalt pillars the dead stand inside, pressed together in the chambers. In any event there was no space to fall down or even bend forward. Even in death one can still tell the families. They still hold hands, tensed in death, so that one can barely tear them apart in order to empty the chamber for the next batch. The corpses are thrown out, wet from sweat and urine, soiled by excrement, menstrual blood on their legs. Children's' corpses fly through the air.
http://www.deathcamps.org/belzec/gerstein.html

>>137643307
>36 posts by this user

>>137643133
Because they're fucking idiots. Not sure how that's relevant though

>>137643223
I'm starting to think you don't know how ovens work.

When burning stuff, there is a certain amount of material you can have in it to burn at peak efficiency. you understand this right? Obviously it isn't efficient to burn one finger at a time, obvious it isn't efficient to fill the oven with a thousand pounds of human flesh.

>>137643307
no mate, sorry. I have the advantage of speaking german here. I never have seen it in english, and how would you believe a translation?
I mean I could make one and adjust it for my purpose, people arent striving for "truth" especially not spreading "truth". Only fools are. People are striving for power, this is why "truth" and "justice" are acctually just propaganda concepts.

>>137643342
As far as I remember he talks about the active act of killing and thanks the people who did that. And says it will forever be ther secret witch they carry with them and its a big load on them.

But as I said, it doesnt mention any holocaust.
He even says how nobody is acctually intrested in fullfilling the "Ausrottung der Juden"

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>>137643797
The holocaust is used to libel whites, demonise white nationalist, and radicalise jews. It is the only historical event in history which people go to prison for years for doubting. Worst of all, it also happens to be a lie. That is bad history.

>>137644471
Yes so your comment about just jamming them in there is clearly retarded, glad you admit that.

>>137643879
The context doesn't change the meaning of the speech, which is clear. Is your entire argument based on one word which can mean extermination, or extermination in slightly softer terms?

>>137644598
How so? I'm saying that the nazis figured out how to be efficient, which isn't just one body of a time - you act like there is a law of physics preventing having more than one body at a time be the most efficient method. I didn't mean to give the impression of 100 jews in a tiny oven.

http://www.phdn.org/archives/holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/body-disposal/

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21 March 46

Sir David Maxwell-Fyfe: The Fuehrer, at any rate, must have had full knowledge of what was happening with regard to concentration camps, the treatment of the Jews, and the treatment of the workers, must he not?

GOERING: I already mentioned it as my opinion that the Fuehrer did not know about details in concentration camps, about atrocities as described here. As far as I know him, I do not believe he was informed. But insofar as he …

Sir David Maxwell-Fyfe: I am not asking about details; I am asking about the murder of four or five million people. Are you suggesting that nobody in power in Germany, except Himmler and perhaps Kaltenbrunner, knew about that?

GOERING: I am still of the opinion that the Fuehrer did not know about these figures.

Sir David Maxwell-Fyfe: You heard what I read to you about Hitler, what he said to Horthy and what Ribbentrop said, that the Jews must be exterminated or taken to concentration camps. Hitler said the Jews must either work or be shot. That was in April 1943. Do you still say that neither Hitler nor you knew of this policy to exterminate the Jews?

GOERING: For the correctness of the document.

Sir David Maxwell-Fyfe: Will you please answer my question. Do you still say neither Hitler nor you knew of the policy to exterminate the Jews?

GOERING: As far as Hitler is concerned, I have said I do not think so. As far as I am concerned, I have said that I did not know, even approximately, to what extent these things were taking place.

Sir David Maxwell-Fyfe: You did not know to what degree, but you knew there was a policy that aimed at the extermination of the Jews?

GOERING: No, a policy of emigration, not liquidation of the Jews. I knew only that there had been isolated cases of such perpetrations.

Sir David Maxwell-Fyfe: Thank you.

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/03-21-46.asp#Goering8

>>137633294
3.5 million survived out of 9.5 million. Perfect 6gorillion on the big nose. Must be totally legit

>>137645173
it's now considered to be 5.7 million, seeing as some jews escaped europe- also I think I rounded a bit, look at the source yourself

>>137644781
>The context doesn't change the meaning of the speech, which is clear.

You're presenting this as documentation of the holocaust..while he's talking about cleaning out bunkers during an uprising...try harder made.

> Is your entire argument based on one word which can mean extermination, or extermination in slightly softer terms?

No, it's that the words are extreme and ambigious

> elimination ["Ausschaltung"] of the Jews, extirpation ["Ausrottung"]; that's what we're doing

Hitler used the same words to talk about Jews in a parliament speech, and jews often use this too as "evidence" while he's obviously talking about the forced deportations...which many documents confirm was happening...instead of the gas chambers...which none of the documents confirm it was happening

>>137644471
>>137645031
What kind of alien fuel did they use to burn those corpses?
On a current modern day crematorium they bigger the person is the longer it take.

For each additional 50 pound would add up to 20 ~ 30 minutes of burning time, and this is with the current technology.

>>137645031
So out of all the history of crematoriums the Nazis were the first to stick more than one body in and found out that their magic ovens didn't require as much oxygen as others?

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>>137645514
The original German for "annihilation" is "Vernichtung" the first time and "Ausrottung" the second. Do those words imply killing?

Did Hitler also believe that the Germans were about to be holocausted?

>Wenn die deutsche Nation den Zustand ihrer drohenden AUSROTTUNG in Europa beenden will. (Mein Kampf)
>if the German nation wishes to end the condition of its pending DESTRUCTION in Europe (Mein Kampf)

Or has this word been twisted out of context from its original meaning in translation?

>Wenn aber ein Männlicher nicht beschnitten wird an seiner Vorhaut, wird er AUSGEROTTET werden aus seinem Volk, weil er meinen Bund gebrochen hat. (Genesis 17:14, Luther Bible)
>And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be CUT OFF from his people; he hath broken my covenant. (Genesis 17:14)

Hitler himself used ausrotten figuratively on numerous occasions.

>Was aber besaß dieses Bündnis für einen Wert, wenn erst das Deutschtum der Habsburgmonarchie AUSGEROTTET worden wäre? (Mein Kampf)
>What kind of value did this alliance possess once the Germanism of the Habsburg Monarchy had been REMOVED?” (Mein Kampf)

>den Marxismus und seine Begleiterscheinungen aus Deutschland AUSZUROTTEN (Berlin Sportspalst speech)
>to ELIMINATE Marxism and its accompanying phenomena from Germany (Berlin Sportspalst speech)

They were common, mundane words that he used in numerous contexts in Mein Kampf, but never a single time in the sense of "extermination."

http://www.cwporter.com/use2.htm

>>137644592
>The holocaust is used to libel whites,
I use it to libel germans, nothing to do with the brits m8
>demonise white nationalist
But somehow a nazi flag is ok at a unite the right rally? you're believing your own memes now. Shit like holocaust denial is demonising white nationalism
>radicalise jews
ffs, even if there is a Jewish conspiracy we don't have to act on it, Merkel, May etc are not jewish but they're the ones in charge of mass immigration. I guess that's what you're talking about

>>137630128
that comfy polan though

>>137645031
>>137645747

By the way, in all the times you've posted that website did you ever go to the source material they provide in the citations? I think you'll be quite surprised.

>>137634709
LOL HE WANTS A SOURCE ON THIS FUCKING SITE LOOK AT THE RICH FUCK

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>>137625882
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alyk2g10AZk

>>137645896
>nothing to do with the brits m8

>Why Europe-wide anti-Semitism is driving my vote for Brexit
>(((Angela Epstein)))
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/10/why-europe-wide-anti-semitism-is-driving-my-vote-for-brexit/

>UK must emulate Kindertransport to aid refugee crisis, says (((Lord Sacks)))
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/04/uk-kindertransport-refugee-crisis-lord-sacks

>Our treatment of today's refugees harks back to Europe's darkest hour
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2015/08/our-treatment-todays-refugees-harks-back-europes-darkest-hour

>Europe’s failure on refugees echoes the moral collapse of the 1930s
https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2016/apr/26/europe-stance-refugees-ethical-failure-historic-proportions

>Shit like holocaust denial is demonising white nationalism
No. The holocaust is used to demonise white nationalism.

>even if there is a Jewish conspiracy
It's not a conspiracy. Just try to imagine how jews feel when they learn about the holocaust. Check this out from 6:13.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNWF9CeoZdE

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>>137645896
>Merkel, May etc are not jewish but they're the ones in charge of mass immigration. I guess that's what you're talking about
I didn't mention anything remotely related to that. But since you bring it up.

>In 1995, a new blind trust, known as the Labour Leader Office Fund, was set up by Mr Blair's friend (((Michael (now Lord) Levy))).
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1370777/Who-else-bankrolled-Tony-Blair-while-he-was-in-Opposition.html

>Immigration Minister (((Barbara Roche))) is alleged in the book to have taken extraordinary steps to increase net migration, going above and beyond even that requested by Mr. Blair. Another civil servant remarked of Ms. Roche’s personal mission at the ministry: “It was clear that Roche wanted more immigrants to come to Britain. She didn’t see her job as controlling entry into Britain, but by looking at the wider picture in a "holistic way" she wanted us to see the benefit of a multicultural society”.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/tony-blair/12175813/Tony-Blair-accused-of-conspiracy-over-mass-immigration.html

>Labour 'sent out search parties for immigrants', (((Lord Mandelson))) admits
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/10055613/Labour-sent-out-search-parties-for-immigrants-Lord-Mandelson-admits.html

>The programme's producer (((Martin Rosenbaum))) said: "What we show is there is an English backlash but also self-doubt about England's identity. Home Secretary (((Jack Straw))) is worried that nationalism will manifest itself in violence and wants a positive English identity created which will beat off the unpleasant side."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/596703.stm

>British MP Charges ‘Jewish Cabal’ Is Guiding Tony Blair
http://www.haaretz.com/british-mp-charges-jewish-cabal-is-guiding-tony-blair-1.11028

>Labour Friends of Israel in the House
http://www.spinwatch.org/index.php/issues/lobbying/item/181-labour-friends-of-israel-in-the-house

>>137625882
It was real but the extent of it was overblown. A lot of the deaths were due to disease.
No other way to see it.

>>137633076
>YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH!
I WANT THE TRUTH DAMN IT!

>>137625882
>real/fake
>of course it was/wasn't
>i have no proof/have proof
>it's all black and white/huge gray area
>millions/nobody
>i'm confused/it's perfectly clear

>>137647484

You forgot the Millibands...I mean they are so important and influential I'm surprised, they literally run the country and we are literally slaves to them...LITERALLY SLAVES. ffs
For every jew supporting multiculturalism, mass immigration etc you can find 100 white cucks desperate to watch their country get fucked by tyrone and ten of his friends. The problem is not external.

>>137625882
Then where did a bunch of jews dead relatives go?

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>>137649750
>For every jew supporting multiculturalism, mass immigration etc you can find 100 white cucks desperate to watch their country get fucked by tyrone and ten of his friends
Where do you think they get their ideas from?

What is the common denominator between countries with mass immigration/multiculturalism?

Rich?
>Japan
Nope.

Marxist?
>China
Nope.

Former empires?
>Turkey
Nope.

Large jewish population that controls media and finance?
>USA, Germany, France, UK, Sweden
Could be.