Understanding the opposition

>>137621132
national socialist don't claim to love America
they don't claim to hold inherently American values
they believe America is a jewish zombie state
this is just a typical strawman argument

>>137621132
Isn't the "Nazi salute" with the right arm?

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That's the bellamy salute. How the flag used to be saluted.

>>137621518
It is. Originated in Rome as the roman salut. The reason we hold are right hand out and open is to show we are not hold a sword to attack. I guess Cesar was a little paranoid and wanted to see everyone's right hand

come on niggers we need more material. I saw a bunch of idiotic stuff yesterday but I can't find it

>>137621285
Funny, because all those guys hated niggers more than nazis.

>do roman salute
>put othet hand over heart
>suddenly pledge of allegiance to USA flag breaks out

>>137625938

I ask as I'm genuinely curious, is that the best way to refute that argument? Simply say that our ancestors weren't who we thought they were and, if they say what happened to America, they would refuse to fight? That Hitler admired the pre WWII America immigration policy?

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World War 2 is the founding myth of modern stupidity. Knowledge of history before the canonical creation story is HERESY!

>>137621132
>>137621285
obligatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfndIlkOxDg

>>137626417
No, what i'm saying is that in literally any other context, they would call nazis the people who fought nazis.

>>137621132
honestly? go after their women and the men will follow.

weaponize BLM and start a #rapewhitewomen , #notyourswhitey trend

the non-coal burning ones will jump ship yesterday

> calls the Nazis "unamerican"
> wants to let people into this country who are unamerican

What?

>>137621132
Racism was socially acceptable everywhere before Hitler fucked everything up.

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>>137627210
funnily enough Hitler wasn't even that racist.
le based aryan man is a meme.
>sole reason this man actually received a medal was Hitler, who shook his hand

>>137621132
I usually ask them:
>without mentioning Hitler, the holocaust, or WWII define the word Nazi for me
Most, if not all of them, don't know it means National Socialism.

>>137626758
this is hilarious, who made this?

>>137621132
Surely you should spend your time refuting the well thought arguments. Then the simple arguments will follow, also perhaps turning the more intelligent people to your side.

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>>137623426
Spain when Franco

>>137621132
there aren't really a lot of arguments from the left
>>nazis are bad
>>the holohoax is the biggest crime in human history
>>racist people are bad and probably white
>>feminism is about equality
And the rest is similar to the mental problems the civnats have
>>replace our people with Somalian 60IQ monkeys and our country will be the same

>>137628156
It's a Murdoch Murdoch

>>137621132
If you want a white ethnostate in the US you should be referencing George Washington and other founding fathers. They were white nationalist and average americans identify with them. Arguing for national socialism and about how Hitler wasn't a bad guy is totally unnecessary

>>137626778
This is correct.
All you have to do is study american history in detail to confirm this.

>>137621132
woah, its almost as if like half of the country supported the nazis before the kikes falseflagged pearl harbor

>>137621132
Nazis killed almost half a million america soldiers.
/thread.

>>137630199
>attack from the right
Honey > vinegar

I've rarely seen any civnats espouse pro-open immigration. Almost all of them want stricter borders, an immigration cap, and mostly immigration from Europe and Asia. They're just more into nation as an ideology than nation as a people.

We can shit on leftists but if we openly shit on anything that isn't ethno-nationalism then ethno-nationalism has no chance. You need to destigmatize nationalism first. Changes take place over decades, the long game is most important. Winning hearts and minds is preferred.

Even the Nazi Party in Germany worked first in coalition, and worked first and foremost on national well-being than on undesirables.

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BASED WW2 VETS

>>137621285
>ww2 was about fighting nazis

>>137621285
We didn't care about the war until the ching chong bing bongs bombed Pearl Harbor.

>>137621132
Sure, I've got one:

You're bitter little faggots who are lashing out in anger at your inability to succeed in social environments. You let your anger fester and projected your own shortcomings on women, minorities, and "(((them)))" because you refuse to accept and change yourself. You wouldn't be this way if you were able to succeed and function in the social paradigm.

Go back to The_Donald.

>>137634567
You made this post because you're insecure about your tiny penis. You can't and won't prove me wrong.

>>137635258
REEEEEE you're a cuck, shill, Libtard, Soros faggot nigger!

#rekt

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>>137634567
The only bitter little faggot here is you, it's you people who come in here and sperg out about us supposedly being virgins while we talk about politics. Pic very related

>>137621132
Understand what? Most them argue based on emotions and logic won't work on them.

>>137635604
Address the argument. It's a very simple one to make because it rings true every time the kekistan fags show their faces in public. I've been here since long before you fags migrated over. At least the stormfags tried to argue. Your spawn just cry.

>>137625770
->implying I believe Nazis systematically killed anyone

>>137635845
>can't and won't >>137635258

>>137621285
>we

let's see

>FDR
>dixieboo who dedicated a statue of Lee in downtown Dallas calling him a true christian

>Eisenhower
>hung a portrait of Lee in his office

>Patton
>grandson of Confederate General who prayed to a portrait of Lee and Stonewall Jackson when he was young

>Harry Truman
>literal member of the Son's of the Confederacy


looks like the guys who defeated the nazis would be standing to protect the monument these commies want to rip down.

>>137636006
No, I won't go get a camera and post my dick on the internet for you. Lol. Now please address the argument. It's the point of the thread. Explain why despite us all seeing the rallies show beta-males over and over that it isn't the case.

>>137626582
shut schizo before i take your EBT card away

>>137621132
How did they manage to misspell "salute"? The a and o are so far apart on the keyboard

Maybe never trumpers are the real retards

>>137636258
If you didn't have a mocropenis you wouldn't need to validate your pathetic existence by trying to get anonymous strangers to tell you they're losers.

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>>137623872
good thing I'm left handed

>>137636535
Not an argument.

>>137636535
So this is how you'll act when confronted with this notable concern about your movement? Deflect to my dick size? I'm arguing your movement is built upon the anger and frustration of those ostracized by society. You're talking about dicks. Your penis is not why you struggle in society. It's your attitude and your poor social skills. Address the argument.

>>137635845
What is your argument? That being conservative implies virginity? That opposing mass immigration is somehow a projection of my sexual insecurity? You're just spewing adolescent venom because you're too threatened to engage intellectually with what we have to say. Obviously the emotion present in your cognition driving you to come here and be such a faggot is defensive aggression prompted by feeling threatened by what we're talking about, screaming LOL YOU'RE A VIRGIN!!! for catharsis just kind of makes me think you're a pathetic brainlet who never psychologically left high school.

Not that I have any proof, of course, but I perform well sexually, have had numerous partners, and am socioeconomically successful and well liked. I'm almost certainly smarter and more attractive and better educated and generally better than you. You are just a mean little douche who can't deal.

Just be honest and call it a Nazi salute you traiting cucks. If you were real men, you'd replace you're American flag with the Natzy flag and hang it proud from your home.

>>137637053
Conservative? No. I believe in the same immigration policies you do. I'm conservative and vote as such.

I'm arguing this new kekistan fueled alt-right is recruiting grounds for actual NatSoc groups because they capitalize on the failures in society. Those who feel let down and shunned by the world for being weird and failures at the social game. Everytime we see them rally this makes up the core of their squad.

>you take pride in being white because you are worth nothing
Pretty basic desu

>>137637395
Would you tell a black person that identifying with their ethnicity is the result of insecurity?

You're naive, they will never admit to being wrong and just keep doubling down. Just take a look at their pictures, they're a bunch of sloppy low test looking cuck boys. I'm not saying those "nazis" were male models or anything but still, every single leftist male just looks like low quality DNA. It's not in their blood to be right winged.

If you're paying attention, and not on our side by now, you're helpless.

>>137626778
This.

Also, normie Democrats call people like Jeb Bush and Ted Cruz "Nazis", so it loses its meaning.

>>137637606
Blacks were systematically oppressed for centuries; they're only just beginning to recover from it. They've had to fight tooth and nail to be accepted on their own merit, and the diversification of the american power structure plays a large role in that.

r8

>>137637370
Here's the deal. There's 0 proof you aren't a virgin NEET loser. Give me proof of marriage or children and I'll reciprocate. I have both documents in front of me.

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>>137627003
>weaponize BLM and start a #rapewhitewomen , #notyourswhitey trend

Great idea! I'm about to become a radical militant black supremicist online.

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>>137637370
Stop being so petty and small-minded. I unironically experience a feeling of love and earnest connection with anyone who wants to serve their Volk, regardless of their social status*. Give me a virgin who's answering the call over some dickhead cosmopolitan Chad any day of the week.

*And regardless also of their race - I am a universalist ethnonationalist, the principles by which I justify identifying with identity are universal and I believe should be embraced by people of all races.

>>137638380
Ethnic identification is either justifiable by principle or it's not. "It's situationally appropriate" is a dumb meme answer

>>137638781
*identifying with ethnicity, not identity

>>137638380
>They've had to fight tooth and nail to be accepted on their own merit

Newsflash: Merit isn't what is getting them any acceptance. Not even by SJWs.