Are nazis left or right wing?

>>137618736
Right wing.

inb4 left wing. Wrong.

>>137618736
Economically centrist authoritarian.

>>137618736
Left wing
Right wing faggots want to conserve the jewish world supremacy

>>137618736
Right, but very close to the center. Unless you're a Strasserite Nazi, then you're a leftist.

Centrist

>>137618736
neither, they're third position

Socially right economically left.

>>137621381
>>137621784
this

>>137621784
Here is your cigar

>>137618736
The alt-left are Nazis. They call the alt-right Nazis but, as always with leftists, they're projecting.

>>137618736
Left wing. Radical entities that have substantially different viewpoints from the norm are, by definition, left wing. Furthermore, these people push forward viewpoints such as eugenics, socialism, and authoritarianism, all of which are genuine leftist viewpoints. The only aspect that coincides with historical right wing points is the "return of European politics," which is a complete farce. The politics that these groups are advocating are completely from 20th century Europe and nowhere else. They do not belong in modern America.
The current modern leftist movement is pushing away from historical traditions of Occidental viewpoints, but the push-back must argue for a return to these points, not just another form of leftism.

Here's some thoughts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a36c-rzgUZc

>>137621381
>>137621912

Both of you are Moron Scum.

>>137618987
This. Also socially ultra-conservative/traditionalist

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>>137618736
According to them, they are right wing, but I don't buy it.

>>137621381
Kind of this, nazism is radical to the point it doesn't land anywhere on the "left vs right" spectrum. It is it's own thing completely.

>>137618736

Centrist Authoritarian. Socialism is generally seen as a politically left ideology, but the Nazi state was extremely authoritarian and Nationalistic.

Labelling things left and right is a mistake.

nah. history major here. depends on geography+decade

>>137618987
not an answer, either left or right.

in this case left since economicly and since its fascist its also left.

check its Connections with stalin.

>>137618889
How do you rationalize socialism into the right wing

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LEFTISTS ALL!
Different sides of the same leftist coin.

>>137621381
This. Elements of tax and spending that ought to be Socialist were socialised. Elements that should be Nationalist were nationalised and free enterprise was encouraged but those deemed degenerative were stamped down on by having an NS on the company's board of directors. Common sense practices for when the wellbeing of the Nation is first and foremost.

>>137622390
This. They aren't right-wing extremists, they're their own faggy sect.

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>>137618736

>>137622053
You must using the word (((nazi))), not the word nazi, as in national socialist who fought against communist revolutionaries after WW1.

Left wing ofc. High taxes and public services, overgrown bureaucracy, unstable and complicated law. Even nationalism has its origin in leftist movement - look bck to anti-French revolution.

>>137622641
stalin government was very right wing

>>137618736
If you mean national socialists, theyre authoritarian centrists

If you mean the actual german nazi's, they were terrible monsters who during their occupation of my country forbade us to cycle wherever we like and sometimes took our bikes as if they were fucking niggers when we didnt listen to them

>>137622654
Look at this redditor shill.

>>137618736
Don't just think in this left-right dichotomy. Nazis are simply nationalists who want to improve their country, and they can be valuable allies to all other types of nationalists in our war against the globalist elites. Never forget that the enemy of all mankind is the globalists, left and right.

>>137622641
National socialism was economically very close to the Nordic model.

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>>137621784
>economically left.

But the third reich was capitalist.

>>137622654
You redifine what socialism is and work it how you want to fit your government.

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Good vs. Evil
If you derive Left / Right ideology from Good vs. Evil then Leftism can only be Evil and Right Wing can only be Good.

>>137618736

Socially conservative, economically left

>>137622088
>that have substantially different viewpoints from the norm

this is not true for most of the talking points though, they were popular with the majority of the people it was a reaction to the forced progressivism

>>137623286
Socialism has a pretty rigid definition even if it works on a gradient. It would make more sense to create a new position a la fascism. If you get rid of the socialism I don't see how you can remain a Nazi.
>>137623364
this

>>137623318
Ketchup vs Mayo
If you derive Left / Right ideology from Ketchup vs. Mayo then Leftism can only be Ketchup and Right Wing can only be Mayo.

You can really tell that Nazis were socialists by the way they rounded up and murdered all the socialists.

>>137618736
They're radical centrists, literally.

authoritarian centrists

>>137618736
>Are nazis left or right wing?
Economically, left.
Level of governmental control, left.
General perception and people forcing a meme about horseshoes, right.

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Right-wing. National Socialists selected the name more-or-less as a meme, and had a violent hatred for communists.

>>137623282
>But the third reich was capitalist.

nope, when the state dictates what and when to produce its not capitalism. Shit they even sized companies of people who fell not in line.

Its nearly the same shit as communism, only difference is companies are owned by "private people" loyal to the party, instead the party (aka state in communism) directly.

>>137624448
It's called total war you impossibly dense fuck. Literally every government participating in WW2 was dictating what and when to produce.

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>>137623282

Straight from the horse's mouth.

>>137624670
no you are retarded, look how the nazis restructured the economy from 1933 onwards.

>>137623383
We need to seperate the new right-winged movement from the previous movements under the National Socialists and the Confederates. If we keep on bringing these movements forward, then we will continue to be a left-winged movement.

>>137624721
Hitler saw capitalism as a tool instead of an ideology. Read a book you inbred nigger.
>>137624448
>>137624920
Nazis didn't abolish the private businesses.

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>>137623898
using Good vs Evil as the basis for an ideological spectrum where values or traits are held as standards.

>>137624721
That is a Strasser quote misattributed to Hitler.

Hitler was only against the international cabal of rich jewish elite that controls most of the world.

>>137625318
>Nazis didn't abolish the private businesses.

and I didn't said that, its still not capitalism. The tolerate business as long as they where "good for the nation", aka party policy.

>>137624448
>when the state dictates what and when to produce its not capitalism.
State Capitalism is still capitalism, you silly freetard.

>Shit they even sized companies of people who fell not in line.
Citation needed.

>>137625777
Define "capitalism".

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>>137618736
3rd position

>>137618736
left. putting them on the right was muddying the water post wwii. fascism is left wing ideology either erroneously or maliciously assigned to the right.
go look up the father of modern fascism.

Left wing. Nazism and all other forms of fascism require large government and state control of speech, economics, and social interactions. This places them squarely on the left when it concerns the role of government. The specific morals of a fascist state do not make it any less left wing.

>>137618736
I think Hitler was the greatest man who has ever lived, I answer all questions as if I were answering on behalf of Uncle Addy. I score far authoritarian left while taking the political compass test.

>>137623286
Leftists ain't bad in an homogeneous society, America is a multicultural whore, so you'll never know.

>>137629031
was monarchy a left wing institution?

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>>137618736
THIRD WAY, NIGGER!
HANG RICH KIKE CAPITALISTS AND HANG INTERNATIONAL LEFTIES

IT'S WIN WIN

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>>137630098
Same thing with fascism.

>>137622654
Why not read som books instead of asking to be spoonfed? pdfs are listed in /nsg/ all the time. Libertarians flags should just be renamed to newfag at this point.

>>137618736
unironically centrist.

>>137618736
It doesn't matter, the image is toxic no matter which way you spin it.

>>137618736
In the most important ways, they are right wing.

>>137629066
Danke für deine Zeit. Warum hast du es deinen Generälen nicht erlaubt ihre Auftrag zu machen?

>>137618736
Third position; calling them right wing is leftist propaganda to make fascism look like a capitalist creation

>>137618736
Unironic radical centrists

>>137618736
First attribute basic characteristics to both the left and the right:

Left:
>collectivist
>socialist
>large governments

Right:
>individualist
>capitalist
>small governments

Now where do the Nazis fit in all of this? Hmmmm, I wonder...

>>137618736
Historically Nationalsocialism went from being a reactionary movement against the 1919 communist revolution to an own socialist revolutionary movement. Since their main audience were blue collar workers and farmers, yes, Nationalsocalism is a mutation of a "leftist" (i.e. socialist revolutionary) movement.
The main difference was the rejection of the class-struggle of Marxism and replacing it with the class-equality by racial and national awareness.

>>137618987
this

aka "left", in simpler terms

>>137618736
>dat red flag
It's leftist as fuck.

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>>137618736
Some would call it right wing yet it is an ideology outside of the left/right paradigm. Pic related

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>>137618736
Depends on the nazi.

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>>137618736

>>137618736
I don't have wings

You can't be revolutionary and right wing at the same time.

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>>137618736
They say left because nazi = national SOCIALISM.

But then my clique of peace loving liberals and hippies is also left.

But we're the opposite of Nazism so the nazis must be RIGHT.

So I take where my feelings guide me and determine nazis are ABSOLUTELY 100% RIGHT WING.