/Alt-Right General 2/

have a bump

also just ask nordfront for help and maybe even translations btw.

You don't need to agree with them and stuff, but I must say they got some pretty based shit. I've spoken a lot with members online from there and studied them a bit to understand them

>>137602512
I have to be honest, I have never liked Spencer. Even when he was interviewing Bowden, who was a true genius, I felt like Spencer took away from those interviews more than he contributed. I don't think he's CIA like some people but I do think he's not a very good leader.

Think we need a clear, vaguely realistic long term goal. All of America becoming a white ethnostate is a pipe dream. Separation of some states to become a sort of White Israel is much more plausible. The blue and red states are basically fed up with one another anyways, we can play both sides of the issue pretty easily. To the red states, we're offering freedom from the elites and a white homeland. To the blues, we're offering to free them from the backwardness of the reds and let them do their own thing and try to achieve multiracial communism or something.

>>137602512
>Stormfront dropped by Google and Godaddy
>Trump disavows
>AirBnB bans white nationalists from using service
>/pol/ in shambles
>"Alt-right" is synonymous with Nazism
>Worldwide outrage and condemnation

Keep up the good work Dickie!

have another bump
also OP you ought to link previous thread in the OP post

>>137605779
Sorry bro, I've been slack shilling today. Spencer if you're reading this here's the old thread:

>>137566545
>>137566545

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For the newfags here: If you're new to the alt-right this is what you need to know. The alt-right is a REAL movement with REAL leadership and it's not a LARPing cringefest that will go out of style like some short-lived fad. The alt-right has a leader - Richard Spencer. Everyone shilling against Spencer is one of the following:

-Leftypol communist (easy to spot - conehead photoshops, spergy-long arguments, use code words like "eceleb" "controlled opposition" "FBI/CIA"). They lately upgraded their shilling campaign to pose a "Nat-Soc" because their goal is to destroy the Alt-Right. They'll ask you to debate them on "Nat-Soc" and why the Alt-Right is not identical to Nazism while drowning out the thread in photoshops. Be weary of Nazi flags (all shills).
-Shitskins (duh)
-Race mixers who mixed with subhumans and now can't reverse their actions

The alt-right is WHITE-only. The (((alt-lite)))) is a knockoff version for Jews and shitskins that failed and now clings to worshipping Trumpstein as a pastime. They have no vision or purpose. Their leaders are failed Jews like Milo, Cernobitch, and other ungodly genetic experiments (Laura Loomer) that somehow still retain a fan base. The goal of the legitimate alt-right is to take over Western governments and develop white tribalism for people of European origin similar to the level of Jewish tribalism. The alt-right is simply put "white tribalism". Things like ethno states and our relation to shitskins are largely irrelevant at the present moment. Right now our priorities are winning the culture war and establishing parties.

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Cont. These are common "arguments" you'll hear from shitskin shills:

>"Alt-right leaders showed up after Trump".
No shit, the right wing was largely irrelevant until the '16 election cycle. Everyone gained prominence then, especially the far-right. But their ideas were around from way before.
>"They don't have children".
We don't need them to have children, we need them to represent us and let us do the breeding. Their work is more important to us than them breeding.
>"They don't hate Jews enough, they should be Sieg Heiling in front of Synagogues or I'll call them shills".
Get fucked. This is a new movement that is being developed in 2017, not 30's Central Europe. Fail-Soc is not going to fly and we learned that from watching boomer conservatives on Stormfront try to re-create it and land nowhere. We need a new 100% white movement with Millennial energy propelling policy through NPI.
>"They have no course of action".
Sure, our party is literally called the "National Policy Institute" and we have no course of action. I can promise you if you're a non-white you wouldn't like that course of action anyway.
>"They want to destroy America".
Richard stated multiple times on black conservative channels (when he's invited) that he considers his race more important than the States. If we're destroying anything it's our enemies.

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>>137602512
notice how OP doesn't use his own flag?

Spencer's youtube channel:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSTy-H5lSiCcozas32sfJlQ

Mike Enoch "Pan European" speech in Norway:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Samq_KZ2lAY

For articles: Dailystormer.com (now shoahed) and Altright.com

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>>137606400
I'm determined to meme the /alt right general/ to existence. So far it's been a great success. Every general hits bump limit.

To weed out all the shills.

Discuss ANYTHING related to activism, public image, aesthetics, etc.

>>137605157

Nazis aren't very bright. That's why they lose.

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Let me remind the autists at 8ch /leftypol/ who said the alt-right was a DYING movement before UTR and made charts for a second time:

The DailyStormer viewership for the past 24 hours: 800k uniques.

800K uniques to an ALT RIGHT blog in 24 hours - DS is an ALT RIGHT blog.

Almost a million people came to visit an ALT RIGHT blog.

Our movement is BLOWING UP. Through the fucking roof! WE ARE IN FUCKING ORBIT!

We are going to be everywhere, by the millions. Soon you will have no place to hide.

Remember this:

Anti-Spencer = anti-white

Anti- alt-right = anti-white

>>137602512
When you say Nazi, does that mean we should denounce all of them, even though the traditionalist workers party seems to be pretty tame, or just the National Socialist Movement?

>>137602512
Denouncing is not his business anon. He wants to unite the right, ot divide in even further.
Sure, they are retards, but denonucing them would push away even more possible supporters. The right just can't afford that at the moment.

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>>137605157
Stormfront is useless, all the best memes are on 4chan

We are white nationalism 2.0

White nationalism 1.0: Stormfront, Fail-Soc, Hitler, Duke, being edgy for the sake of being edgy

White nationalism 2.0: 4chan, frog memes, intellectual Millenials/Gen Z, Spencer, DS

We are WINNING and we are going to get the job done. The NSDAP will look like larping children compared to the shit we're pull with NPI. The UTR rally was just a preview to what's coming.

>>137606699
>public image

For a start your pic is something to be avoided. Don't do anything that can even conjure up the images of a KKK rally. Make up your own unique and distinct branding.

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>>137606988
I mean explicitly ban Nazi appeal from our events/rallies.

I could care less if you identify as a Nazi outside the events.

I underestimated the importance of optics until I saw the Vice video about the rally.

They made us out to look like total retards. If you look at the first 2 minutes it's all good looking normal whites (mostly posters from here) who dressed nicely and lead the torch march. We looked better than a Nazi rally.

Then they captured some retards who screamed "GAS JEWS" and "FUCK NIGGERS" and stretched it for 20 minutes with dramatic music while the niggers were crying.

And now I'm thinking all these LARPers are fucking dead weight. It's just as important to separate ourselves from them as it was to separate from the Alt-Light 6 months ago.

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>>137607230
Personally that torch march part was my favorite part.

We got everything right: the uniforms, torches, chants.

Watch this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAYlNY6Ee-g

We could still take elements from the failed movements.

>>137607477
the fuck?

Anglin wouldn't be allowed at your events then yet you consider his blog an alt right blog. He would absolutely be yelling about the jews if he went.

>>137602512
How can anyone look at a picture of Spencer and not realize that he's a faggot? If another Hitler ever came to power, Spencer and his pals would experience a Night of the Long Knives just like Roehm and his brownshirt butt buddies.

>>137607477
>separate ourselves
No need. They will split off themselves eventually when they realize that most others do not share their views. It is just a matter of time.

>>137602512
>t. Vox Day

sage

>>137602512
I heard that Spencer is 40 something married with a russian qt but he doesn't have kids, why? So much for the "save the white race".

>>137608067
What do you have against Vox Day? Nobody has had a problem with him here before. Or is he the next "e-celeb! sage!" target?

>>137602512
Spencer doesn't deserve our support regardless. A figurehead leader with his lemming followers is incredibly easy to subvert and false flag. An anonymous, decentralized approach is the opposite.

>>137607009
The alt-right has all the numbers.

We don't need anyone's validation. Not the KKK's, not the Aryan Brotherhood, not fringe Nazi larpers. We don't need to "unite" anything.

Also we should change our rallies from "Free Speech" to just "Alt Right" rallies and own up to it.

>>137608189
>Spencer is 40 something
30 something*
>married with a russian qt
she is not a qt by any measure
>doesn't have kids
and he does have 1 child.

>>137608395
His Christian universalism is enabling entryism to Jews and Asians into Alt-Right. He is even happy that there are "Alt-Right" Jews. Guess what, it already exists. It's called "Zionism".

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>>137607922
Anglin smartened up. You should've read some of his pieces that lead up to the event.

He organised everything: The clothes, the weaponry, etc.

That guy is a lot smarter than he looks.

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>>137602512
I never took this man seriously - now that I've seen him wearing UGG shoes (pic related) it confirms my suspicions, he is most definitely a tremendous farce. Sad!

>>137606974
Wake me up when someone waving a Nazi flag, or someone even remotely associated with Spencer wins political office or causes any meaningful change in public policy.

You know, David Duke ran recently for Senate, and despite making perfect sense, guess what, he got completely BTFO because of the labels pinned to him.

Sites like the DailyStormer are fine though since its online anyone can go there and quietly get redpilled. But these Nazi larping, false flag baiting Spencer rallies have got to stop.

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Can someone tell me why Spencer and Jared refused to give interviews for Vice when they had the chance?

We missed an opportunity to make our leaders known and spread propaganda on the biggest Millennial channel (our target audience).

They didn't present us as the torch rally where we looked /aesthetic/ as fuck.

They made us out to look like ignorant, old washed out racists.

We're basically the opposite. I'm so pissed about this.

I often shill for Spencer but I blame him for not weeding them out and taking charge in front of the cameras. Was he trying to act humble?

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>>137609041
>quietly get redpilled

Get the fuck out of our thread nigger.

You're going to be seeing a lot more of these rallies. Especially KKK-styled torch rallies where we march to your house in polo shirts.

>>137609402
Have fun being a useful idiot for the Jew Media to swing the pendulum back to Obama-land :0)

If Trump ends up being a one term President, we can blame you.

>>137602512
Start a campaign to have George Soros indicted for sedition.

BOOM. Once he's arrested, antifa gets their funding pulled, and no more mass protests from them.

Also, anyone who says they are from the KKK or a nazi organization is an FBI agent provocateur. The KKK as an organization has been dead for 30 years.

Jason Kessler, the "white nationalist" organizer was an Obama supporter and participated heavily in Occupy Wall Street.

He was funded by Soros to rebrand himself in 2015 for the elections. He stayed on with George's people when Trump won.

>>137608480
>change our rallies from "Free Speech" to just "Alt Right" rallies
Not yet. The left is still too entrenched. The overton window is shifting, but is not fully there just yet.
>>137609147
Vice is well known for their hitpieces and editing. And they are dying, all old media is.
Youtube and independents are what is going to replace them.
>blame him for not weeding them out
Again, he is not into denouncing, He himself stated that. He even refused to denounce Hitler at one point. He is sticking to his guns, you could day.

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>>137606212
Hey Brock!

>>137604477
I agree with everything you said brother

>>137602512
You can't win, because identity politics necessarily leads to LARPing and the abandonment of prior principles. Eventually, you get the LARPers calling anyone who disagrees with self-defeating tactics--such as "gas the kikes!" "jews will not replace us!", nazi flags, Hitler salutes--as a jew or a shill.

This invariably leads to infighting. The "alt-right" is never gonna make it, because it REFUSED to disavow blatant and coded Nazism from the start. Instead, people here were so emotionally triggered by the Left that they preferred to defend the LARPing Nazism, by saying "you guys call everything Nazi!".

Just because the Left overuses "you Nazi". Doesn't mean you have to accept actual Nazis. Older anons told you from the start that LARPers will kill your fucking movement, and you didn't listen.

You fuckers deserve everything you get.

>>137609572

>m-muh pendulum! The Jewish media giving negative attention is bad! Just look at trump!

All attention is positive when you're gaining this much ground.

>>137606261
Another excellent post

>>137609572
This is why I started the thread in the first place. To AVOID giving the media ammo next time.

Give me one reason we should let the media make us look like all the outdated movements. When we can clearly avoid that by banning a few people.

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>>137609753
Make no mistake, Charlottesville was a setup but it was our biggest victory to date.

I'm starting to think the Charlottesville police ambush was the greatest thing to happen to us because it created the clash and made all the happenings and terrorist videos possible.

If we just held regular speeches we wouldn't attract half the attention.

We need to start placing ANTIFA and bussing in BLM monkeys ourselves lmao

We're going back there in September.

>>137610020
This

>>137602512
What the hell is this (((Alt-Right))) faggotry? I swear to God you idiots make it easier for us to invade your clay by the hour.

>>137609753
No. Some are agents and some are retards. You are pulling some very thick strings of shit out of that prolifically shitting ass of yours. It's statements like yours that destroy movements.
>any and everyone who says X is 100% Y!
The real world is more complicated than that. There are many agents, yes. But some people really are just that retarded. Sometimes your "enemy" doesn't even need agents to kill a movement. And the fact that you're still caught in the Soros, FBI, Occupy, Obama turbine proves that you think you know what you're talking about, but you're still just a surface level nugget of shit.

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Why do you think about a /no flag/ policy?

Normal people are still shocked to see young racists, the public thinks only boomer conservatives can be racist. It's far more shocking to see a rally full of young people screaming "You will not replace us" than it is to see a Nazi flag.

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>>137610823
t. Kike screeching

I compiled a list of Jewish tweets that day. Pic related.

One Jew was caught on video saying "My father would spin in grave like a dreidel (jewish toy) if he saw this":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzZb6kfctEU

>>137608832
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDLEyB4GR2Q

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>>137609890
proud boys are getting sued with the rest from the rally lmao fuck gavin

Stop with the "alt-right" or "white nationalist" labels.

Make it an "anti-communism" movement and have everyone carry American flags. And make sure nobody brings any nazi or kkk flags.

>>137609147
>oh no the Jewish media didn't treat us fairly
Are you slow? People who are prepared shouldn't turn down interviews, but the VICE piece is exactly what you should expect.

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>>137611246

>>137602512
100% this. Nazis please don't soil the enormous opportunity we have here with your larping faggotry. If we're smart and judicious, we can eventually get our own ethnostate

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>>137611427
8ch /leftypol/ is already sperging about the Alt-right general.

Moarpheus made a new meme - pic related.

They're seeing it works. Also the kikes over at (((Rabbi Media))) are sperging out because they saw the alt-right can actually take to the streets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghjWuABVgwU

Laura Loomer shut down the discord.

I'm sure she's reading our generals. Hi Laura!

>>137610569
Everything that goes wrong is a set up. Sure. Before the event most of you fuckers were excited about it like the fuckheads you were. Now it's all gone wrong, it was a "set up". Let me tell you cretins something, your whole damn movement is a set up...from the beginning. All that fire in your belly was stoked and lit by the people you call your enemy.

You think you arrived here on pol by your own deductions, but the reality is it was the MSM that drove you here. They made you sick to your stomach with the image of the world they put in your pea-sized brain. Al Qaeda, ISIS, BLM, beheadings, rap videos, movies, TV shows. This turned you into the person you are now. And who controls the MSM? The moment you play into race wars, they own you.

The alt-right is just as controlled as AntiFa. You won't win with LARPers. These are facts.

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>>137611574
Yes, be a good civic cuck goy.

You don't need white nationalism.

>>137611525
To win this the left will need a corrupt judge and a corrupt jury. They will get it though because the judge will be terrified for his or her safety or just plain cash in on that sweet sweet virtue signaling points.

>>137604477
> All of America becoming a white ethnostate is a pipe dream
He knows that. When he says that, he is signaling to a multimillionaire funder of the movement whose name I probably don't need to name. (a legit supporter)

>>137606261
perfectly put

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>>137612035
I didn't mean a tinfoil setup, I meant the city major fucked up.

He (illegally) sent police to take our guys away from Lee Park even though he knew we had a federal court order permitting us to be there.

They're getting sued for millions. The major of Charlottesville is responsible for all the deaths, not us.

>>137610274
>we can clearly avoid that by banning a few people.
Nope, punching right is for literal retards. If you don't like people carrying swastikas or wearing hoods, then go ahead and try to police a dress code. If on the other hand you think someone's rhetoric is too extreme, you can not disavow. Say nothing about it or say something vague and noncommittal.

there is but one ethnostate and dicky is its messenger

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>>137612694
>Nope, punching right is for literal retards

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>>137612694
>If you don't like people carrying swastikas or wearing hoods, then go ahead and try to police a dress code

We got the dress code perfect. I have no idea how we pulled it off (probably Dailystormer).

It wasn't too sloppy and it wasn't too elitist. It was the perfect middle ground.

We are /aesthetic/ as fuck. Future white nationalists will be looking up to this event.

There was never an "alt-right".

We have and will always remain the true right.

>>137607178
Youre all going to be killed and maimed

>>137611824
They won't listen to you. Congrats nu-pol. You've finally summoned the thoughts that old pol had over ten years ago: Nazi larpers are the real shills. You can't have any group dedicated to talking about immigration, anti-white racism or political zionism without larpers invading and ruining the group. Whether it is intentional or whether they're just idiots doesn't matter. But history points to them being co-opted by government agencies to stir up racial tensions.

>>137612465
You dindu nuffin. Sounds familiar. Just accept that you lost this one. Condemn the act of terror. The fact that most of you larpers refuse to do so is exactly the type of thing that kills your movement.

>>137602512

Alt Right is a terrible thing with shit tier marketing and PR. No one even knows what it is. Lefties think its full on KKK NatSoc and Right wingers think its softcore civic nationalism at its most extreme.

Alt Right is just there to muddy the water and divide right wingers.

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>>137613054

>>137613051
If I found out who you are I'd fly there myself and give you concussion

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>>137613450
YOU

WILL

NOT

REPLACE

US

>President making speeches

>People dying on the streets

>Media losing their shit

>Dailystormer viewership exploding

>/pol/ flooded with anti-white shills

If you needed any validation our movement is exploding, look no further.

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>>137611949
>posting the pic that exposes this thread as a shill thread
topkek

>>137602512

We must unite all races against the Jew or we will fight a race war that will leave millions of whites and blacks dead for nothing. The jews will still control our countries and laugh as we all kill each other.

>>137613073
its not that hard to figure out..... really makes you think?
spencer should have listened more to ramzpaul and voxday.....

>>137612839
That's a fact, nigger. When is the last time you heard of a major leftist rally organizer banning the hammer and sickle, or black bloc tactics, or antifa, or black flags?
blog.therightstuff.biz/2016/01/26/the-utility-of-extremism/

>>137613051
Yep. We need better fitting clothes and a lot more physical fitness tho

>>137613589
You'd end up with your face in the dirt Abo faggot.

>>137602512
You all are faggots. Advocate for Constitutuional Conservatism, not that white ethnostate bullshit.

>>137613073
Nazi larpers are essentially low IQ barbarians whose best function in a potential ethnostate would be infantry. The problem is when their blood thirst forces their leaders to take extreme positions (and thereby rash) positions, hence why Hitler-like figures fail.

>>137613665
I could link to your shill blog too

Spencergate.wordpress.com

Leftypol is important for alt right generals

>>137613821
You're a fucking joke mate.

>>137602512
You should not try to remove anyone from your movement that suports it. Let's say NatSocs are banned from next rally, do you realy think the globalists and their leftist media pets will stop throwing shit st you ?
All you will reach by banning any sub-group is weackening your movement by causing infightings and distrust amongst you members.
You'll also have to accapt that violence is unavoidable if you are fighting globalism/communism.

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>>137613451
>Alt Right is a terrible thing with shit tier marketing and PR
>shit tier marketing and PR

what are you smoking?

14/10 eloquence, spin and PR impression

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKwEpyVYTE4

>>137613834
Get a load of the failed 8ch /leftypol/ campaign to smear Spencer:

http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/filename/fagg.jpg/
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/image/F-g6bfLI0CEn9TVNyc8qTg/
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/image/401buiddByCuAhoMbNuIIQ/
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/image/gPrBeL1rLTezvfI7xnXb4g/
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/image/-XWzhBmUfXLW3OdDAn9_Pg/
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/image/PaRtBnp2udPE4e1Vt-1huw/
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/image/e_UzPMyHGAysrYw5t3PY5w/
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/image/NuR3BI67q6zBfTizoszESA/
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/image/4sSBs-dgIxLnSgbLykSF-Q/
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/image/yFWCQey-DH1ntXO8PAK7gw/
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/image/_H5gRJdfoK1FwXH9owzCdA/
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/image/w95hVmgD9HqZspH8ZFkR0A/
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/image/R_KB6RpL8AjCy_-f1zCzYw/
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/image/m3-VN0P_9NGI8nPl2gKQFQ/
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/image/-KvX8fDUc-2KAt471zRM_A/
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/image/w95hVmgD9HqZspH8ZFkR0A/
http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/image/e-9GKIb_Ln32WIXE3fra4Q/

They were so certain this would finish us off. Now our websites get a million uniques a day and the president is making speeches about us. We are the most relevant political movement in the world.

>>137613834
Why should he? He is meme incarnate, in both good and bad ways.

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>>137611949
nice post thank you sir

>>137613821
>Constitutuional Conservatism
doesn't do you much fucking good when the country is full of shitskins and the courts are packed with Jewish/liberal judges who believe the Constitution is a living document

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>>137613973
/AESTHETIC/

>>137613796
You'd end up with concussion you literal human excrement cunt. I fly to the USA four time a year. Tell me where you are I'll destroy you.

Everyone in this thread needs to fuck off back to trs or whatever controlled op group you came from. Most people here arent aligned with this altright shit. Most natsocs here dont even want to be associated with you spergs.

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>>137602512
Some people are just shit, poxy.

Richard Spencer is what Trump would call a 'choker'. He's bad at what he does. He doesn't have the intuition, charisma, skill or whatever it is, to be successful.

Yet for some inexplicable reason there's a contingent of people who treat him like he's a god and rush in to defend him when he has nothing to offer. Every single thing he touches turns to shit. His only function is to say and do the exact things the malicious kikes in the media want in order to create a narrative that keeps the borders open.

I can understand why people think he is a fed trying to make whites look bad. It could just be that him and his buddies at TRS just don't have the self-awareness to know that they're fuckups. It could be some faggy cult thing that they incessantly push and they just can't take a hint. Mike Enoch having a Jewish wife and the way the media force-memed Spencer so hard should be red flags. We need them to go away, they're a fucking cancer.

I'm not talking about the Daily Stormer or all the 14/88 type people, it's just the TRS/Spencer people who need to just stop.

>>137602512
It's a bunch of liberal psy oppers, their goal is to make the right look like redneck savages

Alt- right members are the new Paedophiles. You're all going down

>>137613698
Anyone who ends their sentences in periods is a leftypol larping cunt

Where's the video footage of somebody screaming "FUCK JEWS" at Vice cameras?

That shit's gotta be priceless. Just any old-ass white boomer screaming that at a camera has got to be the funniest shit I can think of right now.

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>>137614358
100% this

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>>137614358
>He's bad at what he does. He doesn't have the intuition, charisma, skill or whatever it is, to be successful.

If he can't speak and he doesn't have charisma, why is this the most viewed white nationalist video of all time?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o6-bi3jlxk

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>>137614358
>Richard Spencer is what Trump would call a 'choker'. He's bad at what he does.

HOW CAN ANYONE SAY THAT!!??

Guy is literally Godsent to America compared to Cantwell - look up Richards and Cantwell appearance on Vice.

If it werent for Dicky, Hilbot wouldve be strongly in the white house sacrirfiing to Moloch >>137613973
>14/10 eloquence, spin and PR impression
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKwEpyVYTE4 [Embed]

>>137613966
And of all people we should want within our ranks, NatSocs are among the most committed. Proper response to reporters trying to criticize us for including ebul Natzees? "You have no right to police my people's political beliefs. Our ancestors built this country for us and gave us the right to express ourselves."

Is handsome peter itt now?

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>>137614551
Jared taylor is not feared. Lefties wouldn't shit their pants if Jared was leading a rally. The president wouldn't make statements either.

This is all because of Spencer.

Jared is great if you want to confine the white race to 100 person conferences at the Holiday Inn.

Spencer is the one and ONLY leader.

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>>137602512
denounce spencer aswell, he is controled opposition, dosent mean cia, but he is not an asset and will lead to the alt rights ruin, same aplies to baked alaska i belive he was the one who if not caused then atleast contributed to the way the march is percieved now

>>137602512
you cant remove them they work for the government.

>>137614543
Find it on vice. The whole thing is cringe, I wouldn't even watch it if I was you.

They made us look like jackasses.

We had thousands of under 30 respectful looking white nationalists they could interview but they picked boomers who scream about gassing kikes.

Where the fuck was Spencer or Jared the whole time?

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>>137615000
Hello fellow based Nazis(tm). I really hate [insert movement leader] because of [reason]. I am an oldfag who has been posting on 3chan since 1998 and let me tell you [leader] came out of nowhere and is clearly a plant. During this time I have gassed numerous Jews so I am an expert on social movements. Anyone who has a problem with what I am saying is a disinfo kike shill. Got it?

>>137614985
>Jared taylor is not feared
Depends. He is in the intellectual sense. He is like the bubonic plague to them, as they know he would decimate them in a debate.

>>137612075
I just said stop calling it that to avoid the bad press, you faggot.

That doesn't mean stop it altogether. Just go undercover with it.

>>137614543
should be in here somewhere
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=P54sP0Nlngg

>>137602512
German National Socialism is German,

The USA needs to focus on the USA, not LARPing as 1930's Germans.

>>137614735
>>137614657
Because the fucking Jews shine the spotlight on him because they know he's a goldmine of bad optics you hopeless fucking dunces.

>>137615280
Not only that but they selectively edited the footage to make them sound insane. The full Cantwell interview audio is here:

https://christophercantwell.com/2017/08/14/radical-agenda-ep342-full-vice-interview/

He's a totally normal guy.

>>137615280
Stop shitting on Azz, dumbass. Extremism is how to attract the right kind of people.

>>137615872
This. The Stormer has its place. They know they're ridiculous, that's the point. Honestly they remind me of old /b/.

>>137604477
Yeah you got it right leafbro.

http://www.valleynewslive.com/content/misc/Peter-Tefft-the-Pro-White-Activist-from-Fargo-says-this-country-wont-change-until-we-can-speak-freely-440404443.html

I like his voice.

>>137615543
>Depends. He is in the intellectual sense.

I agree. I would've made him give an interview for this RALLY but he was nowhere to be found.

They selectively chopped out parts where we look washed out and stupid while they presented the niggers and subbhumans as the victims.

Jared and Spencer should be on Millennial channels like Vice as often as possible. That interview he did with the blonde chick was priceless.

>>137615280
>Where the fuck was Spencer
wrestling with the cops, you yourself posted the picture.

>>137605157
Whole trump movement is reatomizing and it's big politically relevant figures are being shut down it seems and rapidly, either it's a french revolution kind of situation where the sincere radicalism is burning everything up from the inside or there's a concerted effort from some powerful types to extinguish it all, or could be both i guess

>>137602512
Interesting that every group or person is expected to denounce everyone to the right of him/her. It is not expected to denounce violent ones, but to denounce more rightwing ones. Why the fuck is that?
On the other hand we can draw a line according to an extended overton window. Any nazi and anti-jewis related I would be OK with excluding, bue maybe some other people would not.

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>>137615786
>he's a goldmine of bad optics

why are you lying on the internet again? He is best optics on the right since, Idk Teddy Roosevelt.

the recent press conference was perfect also!

>>137616058
>They selectively chopped out parts where we look washed out and stupid while they presented the niggers and subbhumans as the victims.
That will always happen no matter what our people do. Accept it.

>>137615435
do you or do you not agree that the way people where chanting "jews will not replace us and heil hitlering was a hinderenc to the movement?

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>>137602512
>How do we remove boomer faggots and Nazi, KKK, LARPers who scream "FUCK JEWS" in front of Vice cameras?
If leftist reporters will seek out and find those people. If they can't find someone then they'll hire someone to do it.

Welcome to the modern age of deception.

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>>137602512
how dare they generate publicity and tell the truth whilst having a good time?!

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>>137615786
>>137615813
Found it for you. Fuck Cantwell. Azz is at least hilarious, Cantwell painted a bulls eye on all white nationalists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIrcB1sAN8I

If you look at the first 2 minutes it's all good looking normal whites (mostly posters from here) who dressed nicely and lead the torch march. We looked better than a 40's Nazi rally.

The next rally look exclusively like that. It's so aesthetically pleasing.

>>137616455
Only an idiot would still think, this far in, that that kind of thing is anything but good for us.

>america has the alt right
>europe has generation identitaire
>tfw no youth bong nationalism
brits are also apparently the 2nd biggest demographic for TRS, we just passively listen

>>137616455
I agree.

>>137616641
>Fuck Cantwell. Azz is at least hilarious, Cantwell painted a bulls eye on all white nationalists.
No, fuck you. Listen to the whole interview >>137615813 He did a good job.

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the jew hating was on both sides.

>>137602512
Why do you guys care about looking reasonable in their face? Don't you see? They don't fucking care if you appear reasonable.

>>137616641
>>137615813
>>137616949
>Fuck Cantwell

Cantwell was too emotional, sounded retarted, Keep the memes for the radio where they cant be edited that easily and where you have context dont meme with Jews from (((Vice))).

>>137616949
He fucked up major league. How the fuck is this guy allowed to speak?

>>137616376
NO. The media has to experience the same bullying from the right, as the academia/corporations experienced from the left.

>>137616058
>That interview he did with the blonde chick was priceless
Indeed. If they intended to edit it to make him look bad: they failed big time.
All the world saw there was a confident, charismatic man speaking things that make sense,
while a flustered, doe eyed girl stares at him like she wants to fuck him right there on the spot.

But the thing is that Vice is not always that incompetent. They could just as well make it an absoulute smear hackjob.
It's just that Spencer (most of the time) knows not to give them ammo to use against him, he is careful with his words.

>>137617215
>Keep the memes for the radio where they cant be edited that easily and where you have context dont meme with Jews from (((Vice))).
That's what he did, though. There were some idle jokes about reading Mein Kampf when he was at the park, but Cantwell did a straightforward, serious interview.

>>137617085
You're not getting the message.

We gave the media unnecessary amo to use against us.

Now when people like John Oliver go "NEO NAZIS" they can show a picture of Cantwell chanting about Jews.

They totally discredit normal alt right whites who make up the majority of these rallies.

>>137617319
>He fucked up major league.
How?

>>137617384
I agree. The point is, expecting them to treat us fairly, then whining that their slanted presentation is the fault of our people, is so stupid it's indistinguishable from concern trolling.

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>>137617691
How many neo nazi LARPers were there? 3?
I cannot find more on google image search than these three. 3 out of a 1000 can discredit a movement. This requires extreme care from leadership.

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>Feinberg

>>137616676
when you have a movement that is smeard in the news and on the internet, you are fighting for the good will of the people, when they say you are nothing but a bunch of neo nazi deathworshipers and instead you are just helping your community then it send people to your side, but when the average joe and his wife put on the tv and se people dying in the streets and the leaders of the movement encouraging it it sends people away + "baked alaska" is a stupid name, i know where you are coming from but if the alt right where more like the golden dawn then i think it would be better for the movement

>>137602512
>we

>>137617691
Big fucking deal. If they didn't have that footage, they would hire an actor, or just show a still image of an NSM rally from the 90s and bring a liberal Jew on to say the rally made him wet himself.

>>137618210
In her latest article she linked 4plebs so she might see that

>>137613051

Johnny Knoxville?

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Richard spencer is a retard. Don't even try calling me a redditor or shill

>>137617609
>but Cantwell did a straightforward, serious interview.

he had too much suggestions about violence and his usual fun to listen spiel, but it doesnt look good on Vice, yet again, the situation was violent and emotional. In the end he sounded like a brute, still like the guy so whatever.

>>137618046
>expecting them to treat us fairly,
Exactly. So naive. All fights and wars in the past were won with force, not with expecting our enemy to volunteer to be defeated. Neo-marxists do not abide by laws or any general rules, even in a position of being a police chief or any other. The law does not protect us. Only force and power does. And that force has to be employed on high value targets only (mayors, media exect, corporate HR execs, university deans and admin). Low value targets like planted "victims" like school kids in antifa gear to be avoided. Dont touch them with a ten foot pole. Use force against high value targets.

>>137618197
>3 out of a 1000 can discredit a movement.
>discredit
bad meme for retards
The Jew press WILL treat us unfairly. No matter what, we will be "discredited." No amount of backtracking and self-policing and groveling to filthy fucking kikes will exonerate you.

>>137618253
>you are fighting for the good will of the people
Not really. We're fighting for the good will of young, angry white men. No other market matters at all.

>when the average joe and his wife put on the tv and se people dying in the streets and the leaders of the movement encouraging it
Nobody has encouraged driving over stinky commies. Nobody has even encouraged getting in car accidents. What the fuck are you talking about?

>"baked alaska" is a stupid name
He's not exactly one of us, but I doubt he'd object if you called him Tim Gionet instead.

>>137618719
There is no muslim ban, all immigrant feet that touched american soil are stiil here
Trump condems raycism

>>137616841
well then at least baked alaska has to go or someone has to talk to him that shit like that is not helping, not against free speach but a movement when it wants to get big it has to be more pragmatic especialy when the general public does not even know there is something wrong with the jews, in the words of bane "that comes later"

>>137619524
so let the public realize issues, then trace them back one step at a time to whatever the root (((cause))) is. We may get everything we want at the time the public has traced it back half way.
1-->2-->3:
jews --> jew efect --> destruction of white people.
If "2" is eliminated it is as good as problem solved. Then an exclusinve group of fully redpilled people have to be kept in power to prevent "1" from getting to "2" ever again.

>>137618719
Forgot your trip Moarpheus

>>137602512
Keep 'em for the numbers, and when Antifa really starts hitting.

>>137618320
>If they didn't have that footage, they would hire an actor

No they wouldn't. We made this too easy for the media. We handed them everything they wanted on a platter.

I'm barely complaining though, we got so many things right. I wish the Daily Stormer was still alive.

Focus on love and not hate. Sap the leftists of their supposed moral high ground. Do charity work, feed the poor and convert them to our cause. Teach them skills and build a strong community and seep our ideals into their heads.

Once you gain the hearts of the people they will follow you to where ever you want. The youth of America is looking for purpose and community give it to them

>>137619369
>Not really. We're fighting for the good will of young, angry white men. No other market matters at all.

without the people you will not ever be a serious political movement you have to convince them that a ehite ethno state is good for them, without people you will never get shit done, also you can get rid of the blacks by covincing them that a black ethno state is what they need, then just transport them all to that place and be done with them

>>137619524
Baked Alaska is a fucking streamer attentionwhore. He's not a threat to your commie movement. Let the guy do his thing.

Cantwell and AZZ are the problem. Too spergy.

>>137620666
>Do charity work, feed the poor and
On of the biggest problems with the neo marxist left is they made is immporal (in pop culture) to feel empathetic towards non-poor people. For example when poor rapefugees rape middle class children, they force everyone to side with the rapist, because the rapist was poor, so they assign victim status to them.
*** Favoring the poor, versus favoring the innocent. ***
One of the main fault lines of the culture war.

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>>137620697
The ethno state is not even an issue right now. You're right about everything else.

The solution is to repeat the Torch march: clothing, chants (without calls to gas), etc. It's all so beautiful. We need more rebel yells:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAYlNY6Ee-g

If we do this, carry no flags and call our rallies "Alt Right" rallies instead of "Free Speech" we'll attract the right kind of attention.

When the media starts reporting on us and doesn't get a straight sperg, they'll have to present actual arguments against white nationalism. And that's where we'll get them.

>>137619524
No, memes come before reasoned debate and logical explanation. Any random pavement ape will not be able to explain to you a cohesive, coherent theory of how the white man stole his tricknology, but he know it's true because everyone he knows has been trained to hate white people. Indoctrination is sufficient and indeed as much as we can hope for with most people because most people are fucking stupid. We can explain our memes when we're having civil conversations, but a rally is exactly the place to yell about gassing kikes.

>>137621176
if we convert the poor to the right the left has no moral bias to claim what they do. If we look like we are fixing poverty we claim the moral high ground and can discredit the leftists thus leading to mainstream support.

>>137621593
we don't necessary have to succeed but destroy their narrative and sap their support

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>>137618719
>Shitting on God emperor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bhmYsYK7ow

>>137621294
Based

>>137621294
>The ethno state
New long term strategy proposal:
The ethno state can be achieved by a breeding program. Refuse to provide welfare per children, rather give tax refunds per children. This would discourage poor (happen to be black, muzzi, mex) people from having many children, and encourage productive better off (happen to be white) people to have multiple children.
The other thing is allow people to self-segregate in residential neighborhoods and schools.
This way there is no need to announce that black people will be expatriated to Africa. No need for that talk, or even be bothered with it. When you have a foreign-object in your body, the immune system builds a membrane around it to prevent it from interfering with the health of the rest of the body. The same can be applied instead of an ethnostate. Then blacks/mex who are already here can be phisical laborer underclass.
The initial proposals of the alt right seemed harsh, talking about deportation etc. The agenda does not have to be publicly admitted 24/7. Instead just do things that move society INCREMENTALLY towards our goals, not need for everyone to know what that goal is. this is exactly what the progressives are doung, they are even denying to wanting to progress towards white-extermination and communism.

>>137622081
God I love this guy. I almost regret calling him a kike.

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>>137602512
Trump just got me fired up.
How do I joined the alt-right?

>>137621775
Think about it we help poor blacks and educate them through charity, can't claim the alt-right hates blacks, in fact they start to be hated for targeting those who are helping blacks. Help the communities and the communities will support you. All the rest is noise that will lose power in favor actual action.

>>137622263
He really hits the nail with hammer sometimes

>>137602512
you dont, you need then as a scape goat for the times you do stupid shit


you fucking retarted idiot

>>137620510
>No they wouldn't.
What, you don't remember Nayirah from Kuwait? If the narrative demands it, they'll hire actors or talk to infiltrators.

>We made this too easy for the media. We handed them everything they wanted on a platter.
We did nothing wrong and the governments of Charlottesville and Virginia as well as the Jewish press conspired against us.

>I wish the Daily Stormer was still alive.
If you like the Stormer so much, quit whining about their field reporter not being PC enough for you.

>>137620697
>without the people you will not ever be a serious political movement
Correct. The way to convince the (white) people is to convince the young men. A minority of fathers and siblings might disavow or disown them, but doing that really makes you look like a piece of shit. Mothers will still love their sons and want to protect them, which means they'll start watching footage of our events. Young women will go where the cock is.

>you can get rid of the blacks by covincing them that a black ethno state is what they need, then just transport them all to that place and be done with them
Completely wrong and it should be obvious why. There have been a decent number of black separatist movements over the years; every single one demands reparations. Slavery is the nigger holocaust, for which they demand the right to leech off white people in perpetuity. And even if some set of blacks magically peacefully separated from us, in short order their country would fail, and the pleas for help and streams of illegal immigrant nigs would begin. The only people we need to convince right now are white men. We need to convince young white men to band together and fight in unified interest, and then we can decide amongst ourselves how to deal with the colored person problem.

>>137622338
>help poor blacks and educate them through charity
The only problem is leftists mesure charity by outcomes. As long as the average black income is less, they call racism. The biology of iq has to be accepted widely, and equal opportunity versus outcomes. That is center right Trumpian. Already going on. We have to measure progress not group-to-group relative terms, but absolute terms to past performance.

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>>137622345
"I'm not finished fake-news"

That part cracked me up.

>>137621294
>When the media starts reporting on us and doesn't get a straight sperg, they'll have to present actual arguments against white nationalism.
That's not true. They can simply not broadcast interviews, bring some kike on to say all the white people are scaring him.

>>137623346
Too tinfoil. It doesn't work like that.

Reminder Trump got elected despite all the media shilling. People can see through their bullshit.

>>137605157
you should try to be me subtle next time 3/10

>>137623162
No, leftists do not measure charity by outcomes. They measure all action by intent, not outcome. If right-wing white people are helping niggers, the leftist line will be that the right are only helping niggers out of selfishness, that we want their votes or are trying to make them docile. The narrative on racial income disparity is not that the disparity itself is racist, but that the disparity is evidence that white people, whether consciously or not, are discriminating against black employees.

>>137602512

Cuck shill

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>>137623095
>We did nothing wrong

Ban Nazi larpers, KKK and Aryan brotherhood types from ALT RIGHT rallies.

They can do their own shitty rallies. We need brains behind this movement.

If Spencer did all the talking, they'd have to make an actual argument against white nationalism. Now they can condemn us without hearing us out.

If you look like this you're worthless.

>>137624209
(You)

>>137623588
>Too tinfoil.
Nayirah is not tinfoil, she's fucking mainstream knowledge.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_(testimony)
>The Nayirah testimony was a false testimony given before the Congressional Human Rights Caucus on October 10, 1990 by a 15-year-old girl who provided only her first name, Nayirah. The testimony was widely publicized, and was cited numerous times by United States senators and President George H.W. Bush in their rationale to back Kuwait in the Gulf War. In 1992, it was revealed that Nayirah's last name was al-Ṣabaḥ (Arabic: نيره الصباح) and that she was the daughter of Saud Al-Sabah, the Kuwaiti ambassador to the United States. Furthermore, it was revealed that her testimony was organized as part of the Citizens for a Free Kuwait public relations campaign which was run by American Hill & Knowlton for the Kuwaiti government. Following this, al-Sabah's testimony has come to be regarded as a classic example of modern atrocity propaganda.
IF THE NARRATIVE DEMANDS TESTIMONY, A WITNESS WILL BE FOUND.

>>137624358
>If Spencer did all the talking, they'd have to make an actual argument against white nationalism. Now they can condemn us without hearing us out.
Have to agree he makes a great mouthpiece but I really feel like he might be CO.

>>137624030
Right wingers already give out more charity to nonwhites than leftists do.

>No, leftists do not measure charity by outcomes. They measure all action by intent, not outcome.
That's not true. Wake up. The whole 0bama DOJ-CRD and other departments (also leftist NGOs) were suing companies and institutions when measured outcomes didnt meet their expected targets. For example some company built bunch of upper middle class homes around Dallas, then 0bama and Loretta Lynch expected 12% of these home to be sold to black occupants. It didnt happen since there were not many blacks who could afford it. So they sued them to set a precedent, to make private businesses giving away high value properties at fraction of the market price to blakcs, to make them middle class without working for it. "proceed even without proof of intentional bias"
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/supreme-court-fair-housing-upholds-119418
WAKE UP: they want equal outcomes, they are communists.

>>137624575
We're going to be prepared for this kind of thing, we might even do it ourselves.

As long as we set the foundation right.

>>137624963
Retarded leftypol meme. The Nazi larpers, KKK and Aryan brotherhood types are the "controlled opposition".

How else would the alt-right gain prominence? If we acted like these types we wouldn't attract any attention in the first place. Which means we have no alternatives and this is our final stance. If this fails the far-right is finished.

>>137625470
>The Nazi larpers, KKK and Aryan brotherhood types are the "controlled opposition".
I love this narrative but I've lived around these shitheads my whole life and they really believe it, dude.

No two ways about it, though. They're setting back the fucking cause.

>>137602512
Spencer has to make white nationalism appealing to the general public. Screaming "fuck da joos" just reminds people of all the sad hollywood lolocaust movies

>>137624030
Yet they don't get on China's case for how they treat Africa. If we could promise to uplift the black community through temporary contracts to build them self sustaining infrastructure and community, perhaps the leftists would be okay with ethnic nationalism. Or, you could just promise to promote safe spaces for all races with globalism in mind to help trade with and uplift all communities. Hard choices desu.

>>137625691
The alt-right is very organic though. We're mostly young Millenials/Gen Z whites looking for meaning. Which is a good thing.

There's nothing controlled about this place. It's anarchic as fuck.

>>137624358
>Ban Nazi larpers, KKK and Aryan brotherhood types from ALT RIGHT rallies.
No. You will still be called KKK NAZI MONSTERS, only you'll earn the distrust of people committed to the cause and you'll have fewer boots on the ground. Any surrender at all is blood in the water to our enemies.

>If Spencer did all the talking, they'd have to make an actual argument against white nationalism.
The news can interview whoever the fuck they want.

>Now they can condemn us without hearing us out.
They can do that anyway. Stop trying to appease the Jewish media. they are fundamentally opposed to us. Troll them or be brutally honest with them. The worst thing you can do is distance yourself from "extreme" allies; the press will portray you as dishonest and cowardly.

>If you look like this you're worthless.
Dude looks like a fixer-upper with his heart in the right place. If your attitude is that racist, downtrodden white people deserve contempt instead of sympathy, you are spiritually lost. You are emulating the Jewish spirit, throwing white people aside in an attempt to appease Jews who would see us all dead. Have some goddamn dignity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A-Z5sRwgLM

>>137615786

You are Jewish you filthy kike. Even Trump is getting sick your dishonest subhuman kind

Stay away from them in demonstrations. Kekistanis and milfs are the best soldiers in this propaganda war.

>>137625826
Although this is avoiding the glaring problem that inferior races will just destroy what is built for them. But without whites around to feel the pain, it'll only be them feeling the pinch. Besides, letting leftists see how shitskins manage what we build for them without 'interference' from whites that 'keep them down' will be a huge redpill to many leftists if they're willing to open their eyes and look into studying the race factor in building civilized societies.

>>137607477
Cantwell didn't do too bad, right?

>>137625064
What? That's way too tinfoil.

>>137624967
You're absolutely right that all it takes to piss off leftists is a difference in outcome, but the problem in their eyes is not really the different outcome but the imagined ill intent. Even if blacks had perfectly equal income, living situations, education, etc. to whites, and all due to white conservatives giving the niggers all our shit, the narrative would be that we were being charitable in an attempt to trick the niggers into voting for Republicans. The left has a slave morality. Communism is a motivating goal but if implemented would not satisfy them.

>>137625470
The controlled opposition likely include a few fringe right groups, though the rank and file of those groups are sincere, and tend to be so cowed and paranoid that they'll never get violent; the worst they can do is look unseemly on camera. Not a threat. The real controlled opposition are the fucking Republicans and some of the alt-lite. And whether or not far-right groups/people are feds or whatever, they are strategically the wrong people to attack. We should be going after the center and the left, because that's where most people are right now. We want to discredit "moderates" and other leftists such that their large support bases will be forced to polarize.

>>137625826
No shit, ching chongs aren't white. They're oppressed POC trying to develop their country and it's not fair to tell them they're polluting too much.

>If we could promise to uplift the black community through temporary contracts to build them self sustaining infrastructure and community, perhaps the leftists would be okay with ethnic nationalism. Or, you could just promise to promote safe spaces for all races with globalism in mind to help trade with and uplift all communities.
Nope, unacceptable, pay reparations whitey

>>137609033
can you please explain to me why
you think of him in such a way.
not being sarcastic here.

How about allowing un-coordinted right wing groups with various levels of redpilling. One day one group protests in one plane, another day another.
Also wasting resources in protesting in parks is stupid. Protest inside or in front of the offices of elected offcials who enforce neomarxism instead of communism. neoMarxism is anti-white, so if neo-marxism is cut back then white agenda is served. There is no need to be bluntly hones with your enemy about what you want. I think this naivitee is one of the biggest problems on the right. They are too honest. Im not saying to lie, just dont tell everything to everyone all the time.
Some people want a 180deg turn and move today. How about achieving it gradially, while keep moving the goal post? Always advertise the current goals, not next year's goals.

>>137628128
But they're also ripping off and backstabbing other third worlders with the intent to colonize them through debt slavery.

Also, see >>137626585 as to why the second option could still be a good choice, at least until we convert many leftists.

>>137602512
You guys shit the bed at C-Ville but I can't help but feel that it was intentional, it was like watching the Libertarian Convention last year with that fatass parading around in a speedo.

>>137626585
If white people went extinct, we would only become more criminal, since we wouldn't be around to fight back. All our monuments would be razed and our histories burned, our houses looted, and niggers would pick through the ashes a hundred years later wondering why the cave people had forced them to build strange temples, why the white cracka mothafucka had so spitefully taken his stolen African technology secrets to the grave.

>>137628900
"who enforce neomarxism instead of communism."
who enforce neomarxism instead of the LAW.
typo

>>137602512

this guy is the white osama bin laden, he has delusions of persecution.
the fact is he is a misfit as are the rest of his snowflake fanboys.
________
The aggressive white male narrative is historically obsolete for the USA, and must be revised.

socially-conservative, hypermasculinity is an impediment to humankind's improvement.

The USA must become a United Nations of America. All who impede humankind's improvement are domestic terrorists (Alt-right is now Alt-Qaeda and need to be smoked out and hunted down)

posterity is archaic

>>137629228
I meant without whites permanently around in their safe space...

Plus we could offer to genetically modify the inferiors to have superior genes for a humane way to solve the cave man problem.

>>137629025
What the Chinese do when mainstream ZOG media aren't recording is not important. What is important about China is that they be given enough of a free hand to build themselves into an economic threat to white people. If they have to hurt a few niggers to do that, those particular niggers probably don't need to be on TV.

>>137629260
>mpede humankind's improvement
There is no humankind. There are productive whites, jew and japs. All others are parasites.
You want them to suck our blood forever? They will never be able to contribute to modern society, they only take money and bring crime.

"must be" ?? fuck you. We will not be slaves of barbarians. We will be free white peoples!

>>137629831
And hence why leftists don't have a problem with monstrous barbaric chinks. If the alt right points light at this, leftists will be exposed at some point, and they'll have to let civilized whites take over the role of the inhuman chinks.

>>137629754
I meant that as an extension of the trend. If we merely separated from the coloreds, we would obviously be to blame for their inevitable failures. Liberals would demand we hand out food and money, principled Conservatives would adopt starving colored children for Jesus, etc. We've done this all before. America was a white ethnostate fifty years ago.

>>137629260
The united nations of America can only be built with white people as slaves and massacred through crime, and bread out of existence.
That is the opposite of Freedom and liberty, which is what this country was founded on.
That is why we oppose all lefty shit:
multiculturalism = white slavery.

>>137615435
I'm so glad, people like you exist.

>>137630346
Yeah but back then leftists argue that they were underprivileged. They had second hand goods and not sustaining means of getting by. If we bear through the pain of having to build them top rate infrastructure and services that they'll operate, they will only have themselves to blame when it fails, and leftists can't use the privilege card anymore. And it would be under contract for access to their resources like what China does, so we wouldn't get nothing for it.

>>137630325
One can hope. It would be a simple matter for a sympathetic President to completely ruin China's economy and make their whole expansion thing unaffordable.

>>137626001
>There's nothing controlled about this place. It's anarchic as fuck.
Unfortunately, no. This isn't 4chan circa 2003. There's no wild west here and /pol/ is probably the board where people shill the hardest for one idea or another. There's tons of deliberate misinformation spread here. Come on. I've been here for years. I know the plays by now.

But yeah, keep the movement organic. Don't let 'em pigeon hole you. Avoid tags. Avoid the tag of "alt-right." Just stand for what you stand for and do it in the smart way. Vote. Mobilize. But stay peaceful and keep anti-American scumfuck white trash that make us all look terrible in their trailers where they belong.

Nationalism should not be associated with racism. It's sad that the term is forever damaged. It is not the same as ethno-fascism (another discussion). It's about national sovereignty, strong borders, controlled immigration, and putting all Americans' interests first in both foreign and domestic policy.We need to concentrate on stopping the spread of globalism and the NWO - not use the movement as a means of working out our own prejudices. Put country above your prejudices. We all have them. That's okay. The key is not to lead with them.

That also doesn't mean to include radical Islam or any other kind of domestic terror masquerading as free speech. We'll never get there like that. We have to be better and smarter than the enemy.

>>137631028
>have themselves to blame when it fails,
Leftists always lie. Dont be naive. They will find a way to blame us. Instead of pleasing others, just stand your ground. It is an ethnic war for resources. White people are a constant source of resources, so they look at us as their potential slaves. The whole third world looks at us like that.

>>137632034
Yeah, well how else are you going to access resources in the third world without eventually going to war for it? It'd be another 1945 as other first worlders block us at every turn. At least the peaceful method hasn't been tried. And technically Nazi Germany had ethnic nationalism present in all its colonies, so it looks like they too tried something similar, but still went to war for territorial disputes (which admittedly probably couldn't be avoided).

>>137620756
dont you think that if i was a communist i would want him there? because he makes the movement look bad

>>137631028
>If we bear through the pain of having to build them top rate infrastructure and services that they'll operate, they will only have themselves to blame when it fails, and leftists can't use the privilege card anymore.
No, these people do not see the world like we do. If we provide everything for the niggers and they fail, it will be our fault for sabotaging the machines/infrastructure, for racially and economically unjust trade policy, for giving them a historical disadvantage with slavery and racism, for uprooting so many of them in the process of forming their new state, for giving them crappy land, you name it. Get it through your head, no surrender is ever enough.

>it would be under contract for access to their resources like what China does, so we wouldn't get nothing for it.
You realize the current narrative on Africa is that it sucks and fails to develop because white people legally strip-mined the continent but it wasn't fair because the niggers weren't as technologically advanced or economically powerful as us? You have to stop thinking about how to present some deal to the left in a way they'll approve of. It's just not going to happen. They literally want to kill you, even if you are nothing but a serious ancap. They want you dead, they want your family dead, they want a 100% inheritance tax to redistribute your family's wealth in the form of section 8 housing and transsexual neovagina stretchers. They are not reasonable people. They will not treat you fairly even if make a clear contract with them. So stop trying, it's not worth the effort.

>>137633086
>how else are you going to access resources in the third world without eventually going to war for it?
First, stop sending foreign aid, erect tariffs, and ban immigration from the target countries. Second, wait a few years. Third, carpet-bomb urban areas. Fourth, invade.

>>137633086
>going to access resources in the third world
The problem is third world people came up with the idea of extracting resources from the first world. While you are away mining copper in Africa, they send their relatives to America, demand rights and gibs, basically rendering white Americans to be treir slaves. The 2 colonizations are independent. Even if we dont go to Africa for their resources, they are already here for our resources. Africa's resources and copper, tropical fruit, uranium. America's resources are wealth-generating white people who can be milked through "civil rights" of nonwhites.

• Even if they are counter signalling, support the alt-light who are being accused of being Nazi’s because they will remind the public of how crazy the left is.
• Don’t get too sucked into this, prepare to walk because you could seriously ruin your life.
• Encourage others to reject the flirtation with neo-Nazism. It is bringing too much heat and is counter-productive.
• Accept that some figures need to go. We need leaders and people with ideas. But there are some right now who are trying to do both, and failing.

>>137633499
The difference is in modern eugenics which can change their genetics and have them evolve quickly from their inferior state, then there would be effectively no one left behind 'unjustly', which leftists always bicker about. But your point still is taken.

>>137606212
>>137606261

Just so everyone knows, these are fake posts

>>137633964
why do you want to invade a shithole? Any contact with them is a basis for demands.
I say Isolate, let Africa rot.

>>137623095
>every single one demands reparations
tell them that theyr own ethno state is the reparation put the right people in charge but not make it obvious and dont ever take in any imigrants.

>>137602512
>How do we remove boomer faggots and Nazi, KKK, LARPers who scream "FUCK JEWS" in front of Vice cameras?
fuck off you fucking shill. You're trying to dilute our movement

>>137621360
>he knows has been trained to hate white people

he has been trained to hate white people ont the foundaition that nazis = bad

when you act exactly how the jew describes you it will only put people off

>>137634366
Earth has finite resources. Anything that we don't control is controlled by someone else.

>>137634377
All that has already been done within living memory. It didn't work.

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>>137602512
Nice pied piper honeypot "movement". Where do I sign up?

>>137635586
i dont remember ever hearing about a black ethnostate in america it is proven that blacks in the us have a 10% higher avarage IQ then those in africa so it could work better

>>137635584
Read Culture of Critique if you want to understand Jews in particular. Much of it applies to minority groups in general also.
https://archive.org/details/TheCultureOfCritiqueAnEvolutionaryAnalysisOf

Blacks do not hate whites because they associate whites with Nazis. Blacks hate whites on the foundation that whites are not black. Everything about you irritates niggers. They do not like the way look, act, sound, or smell (very often niggers say that white people smell like dogs, some even theorize that we are descended from dogs). That movie Get Out from a couple months ago is about how much niggers loathe white people who are trying to make niggers happy. Stop trying to make your enemies happy.

>>137602512

Already dropped my support for RS.

I liked him when he was shutting down college commies during his speaking engagements last year. Now, he's just trying to build an edgy brand on his name and by being the "captain of the alt-right".

No fucking thanks, he's an anchor to the movement now.

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>>137634534
>TRS migrant triggered

>>137637004
>Now, he's just trying to build an edgy brand on his name and by being the "captain of the alt-right"

How is that bad unless you are anti-white yourself and you're scared of whites taking back control?

I'll be waiting for your mental gymnastics shill.

>>137634335
Plebbit spacing

If you press enter before your first paragraph you came straight from Plebbit. It's the plebbitor's instinct

>>137637339
They act like they weren't all heart cutting cannibal niggers.

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>>137635758
Shitskins weren't allowed in the first place.

>>137637119
thank you for admitting you're not man enough to take a stand for our movement and tell the world the truth
saying "fuck jews" should be as simple as saying "2 and 2 make 4," yet you don't have the fucking balls

why do you retards refer to yourself as the alt-right now? nobody here used that term before Clinton said it

>>137602512
Nah. Media will call us Nazis regardless. Nice D and C you kike shill

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>>137637339

You actually believe that LARPing as the new 4th Reich is going to get us anywhere? Can you REALLY be this fucking stupid?

Go back to TRS and listen to Enoch jerk himself off angrily, you cunt. You're as terrible as Antifa with your claims of "IF YOU'RE NOT A FULL ON NEO NAZI THEN YOU'RE A RACE TRAITOR".

This isn't middle school, lad, so please, fuck off and gas yourself before you embarrass yourself any further.

>>137636066
Africa and Asia were decolonized in the 20th century. Borders were drawn mostly on the basis of colonial governments, but those governments had been stable overall and the shitskin hordes have had more than enough time to redraw their own borders if they wanted. The new heads of state were picked to be stable since our former empires wanted at least to be assured of trading partners and overseas military bases. Most imperial countries took few if any new immigrants. There is no reason to think trying the same thing, only ceding some of our land so the niggers can live right next to us and sneak across the border would work any better.

>>137602512
>REMEMBER THE BEST THING YOU CAN DO IS NOTHING - THE WAY TO WIN IS INACTION, PROVE TO THEM YOU'RE THE BETTER MAN BY NOT SWINGING BACK AND WE MAGICALLY WIN THEY WILL DECIDE TO STOP RUINING THE WORLD AND OUR NATION :^) SO JUST STOP DOING ANYTHING, TAKE NO ACTION, HIDE IN YOUR ROOM AND SHITPOST ONLINE!!!! FUCK THOSE LARPERS, ROLE PLAEYRS ON POL ARE BETTER! FUCK YEAH WE'RE SAVING THE NATION FUCK YEAHHHHH

>alt-kike
Newfag, saged.

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>>137634203
2nd point is real. If you're going to run with us there's a chance you might get fucked. This is why I'm so triggered about LARPers. I don't want regular people losing their jobs for no reason.

>>137637535
We need to make these threads for the shills and expose their non-arguments.

>>137637621

Holy fucking kek, you really are trying to create your own retarded echo chamber with this level of stupidity, aren't you?

Anyone still believing that LARPing as a nazi is good for the white race needs to kill themselves. It's nigger-tier mentality that's never going to succeed. Maybe you're not old enough to post here and that's why this is all going over your head.

>>137602512
Spencer's a fucking moron. We need a leader like Jared Taylor. Someone with class. Someone that's smart enough not to associate themselves with nazi/kkk shit.

>>137637621
You are either low iq or a subversive agent if you think sperging about Jews in public is useful.

>>137637761
>You actually believe that LARPing as the new 4th Reich

Read my OP shill. Then see what you wrote.

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>>137637706
Weird.
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/alt-right/order/asc/

>>137638097
THIS.

>>137637849
>STOP FIGHTING YOU BIGOTS, I MEAN FELLOW POLACKS, YOU SHOULD JUST GIVE UP AND DIE ALREADY, I MEAN IT'S TOO DANGEROUS OR SOMETHING, JUST STOP IT ALREADY!

kek

>>137637857
Get gassed, subhuman.

>>137638097
>>137638513
Read the fucking thread before you shill.

Also refer to

>>137614985
>>137621294

>>137607477
>>137627611
Cantwell isn't a nazi lmao

>>137638384
You're on different tangents, man. I have serious disdain for nigs, kikes, etc., but disagree with the tactics that dipshits like Spencer are using now because they're all over the place and it's damaging for the rest of us. Then, you imply that I'm "scared of taking back control" by NOT supporting a guy who is welcoming in retarded Nazilarp faggots and essentially shot yourself in the foot. Then you call me:

>shill

EVERYONE WHO DOESNT AGREE WITH ME IS A SHILL!!!!

t. TRSposter who can't handle anything that he doesn't agree with and can't even get his story straight.

>>137638785
Too fucking late to damage control. He's destroying our public image in Millennials eyes. Where do you think people our age get the news if not Vice?

Btw he had a fucking Swastika open on his laptop monitor during the last scene.

I don't believe in "plant" and "controlled opposition" shit but that part literally seemed like it. He's lacking self awareness and fed Vice exactly what they wanted.

>>137638745

>he thinks that you need to be a scary man to get anywhere for the movement and that being highly intelligent and capable of exceptional debate is less valuable in this era

Now it's confirmed, you're under 18, but that explains why you can't even keep your shit straight in the thread you created. Good job.

>>137639054
Oh, it's fucking Moarpheus again.

Sometimes you're hard to spot.

>>137639388
>Moarpheus

That nigger from The Matrix, or, is there some faggot out there using the same name? I don't follow the same circles you edgy kids do, so you may need to enlighten me on this.

>we should drop our support for him
what support?

>>137627611
He did a nice job babysitting that glasses broad. Maybe shouldn't have agreed to show off his guns, but he was just being nice. The full interview on his site is pretty good. It's funny listening to him rage at that dumb bitch and be met with kind of vapid confusion, hilarious that VICE originally titled their video "More Than an Internet Meme." She was probably went down there expecting to talk about Pepe again.

>>137639563
There are very few legitimately autistic shills on this board. You resemble one of them.

>>137639661
Take a picture of your hand right now and prove you're white. If you're white I'll never make another Spencer general again.

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>>137602512

How fun was the election and HWNDU with based mudslimes, fags, niggers and kikes? Why are we excluding BASED people? Who gives a fuck what someone is as long as they're based?

>>137639788

A bold statement considering how scatterbrained you've show yourself to be.

Sad thing is, we probably agree on most everything, but your shitty handling of the way you display yourself really fucked everything up. It's not the "shills" who are causing the divide, it's the low-impulse-control retards shitting this place up with their inability to maintain their composure if anyone says anything they don't agree with.

I'll exit your thread now, there's nothing left to discuss.

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>>137639303
>He's destroying our public image
Fuck off, retard. For someone who claims to be a fan of the Stormer, its strange that you clearly don't read it.
https://whitelocust.wordpress.com/2017/08/09/psa-when-the-alt-right-hits-the-street-you-wanna-be-ready/
Read the whole article, it's important.

>>137640088
Alt-lite vs alt-right is an outdated meme.

Now we're all about rallies and gassing people irl.

>>137607477
What we need to do is tell them to avoid cameras, don't give interviews or at least don't shout "GAS THE KIKES" at a Vice cameraman. Optics are important in meatspace, but sieg heiling on 4chan is fine because it's a lot less convincing for the media to screencap online posts than take video of fat rednecks waving around a swastika at a rally.

My personal stance is that we should organize under a new name, one that has more legitimacy than "Alt Right" but will also still appeal to normies. Obviously, naming ourselves the National Socialist Party or anything along those lines is an automatic demonization, something like the Nationalist Party is far more friendly and legitimate than an online, media-assigned name.

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>>137640327
If we want to be successful, we should basically do the opposite of everything in this post.

>>137640211
I read this 4 days ago.

Hardcore message doesn't imply chanting "Gas the kikes". That didn't sell shit and we just saw it.

Having young racists in attendance is hardcore as fuck. Having intellectuals break down white nationalism in a way that was never done before is hardcore as fuck. Look at the Hail Trump speech to see what I mean. It attracted the same negative press but we didn't look like orcs.

Chanting about gas showers is dumb and unnecessary. It's subversive and low iq.

>>137640633
Yeah, these faggots flooding the board are sad creatures worse than any fat redneck nazi.

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>>137640848
yes, fuck potential converts, let's just bait a civil war so I can get a AS VAL from uncle Vlad in a lend lease

>>137640327
Good post except the second part.

I can sense you're scared after the C-ville events because they threw your off. Maybe you weren't cut out to be a white nationalist in the first place.

>>137641219
Sound less like a unhinged faggot normalfag.

>How do we remove the Boomer faggots

Lmao you niglets are marching arround like MLK and Hippies trying to be Boomer protesters from the 60s. Even if they call you basement dwellers, the "alt-right" has done more good for White Nationalism through the internet than these gay marches.

>>137641259
Charlottesville was a resounding success, but what I'm worried about is CIA niggers sending one guy with a swastika with an entourage of cameras to effectively brand the entire thing as "ebil Neo-Nazis"
Obviously spreading our current message of "Jews are literally Satan" in a more diplomatic way, while well presented, can work, but running around dressed up as Wehrmacht generally leads to an easy demonization and simply being seen as baddies by anyone politically active.
I also just think the Alt-Right is a shitty name and doesn't roll off the tongue well, but that's a personal concern.

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>>137602512
Whew, fianlly a thread I can actually get behind.

larping faggots, keep your historical reenactor shit at home next time pls

>>137641715
Didn't even need to read you post nigger they lie and make shit up. It doesn't matter if I came dressed as Hitler or Jesus Christ.

>>137641846
Roll over and die it is actually what you cowards deserve.

>>137604477
Spencer is an attention whore, I don't think he's CIA controlled Op I think he jist likes it when the media let him have interviews. This entire march was counterproductive. You want to change the world, start in your community and live by example, if you are healthy (work out) have a white waifu and 3 blonde children you will be the poster child for whatever ideology you endorse. I don't tell people I'm fascist or white nat or anyhing.crazy. i say I'm pro America first and for deportions, easy as that.

>>137641392
Chanting "gas the kikes, race war now" usually leads to losing all public support, or with enough support, starting a race war. I would be down for free slav gats, but I think gaining political influence wouldn't be a bad thing as well.
Another Charlottesville with less cars and more organization, with a clear cut and well presented message so the media can't assign us one (like they did with Cville) I believe would earn us significantly more support.

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>>137609073
What the fuck is wrong with his head and why is he so fat?

>>137637339
>you are anti-white yourself
The biggest cancer is whites who are anti-white, aka antifa and their sympathizers. All of them should be treated in mental hospitals or massacred.

>>137636609
>Stop trying to make your enemies happy.
thats right. weakness is provocation. Libtards have deficiency in 4 of the 6 moral traits, therefore mentally retarded. That retardedness causes them to provocate their enemy.

>>137637621
>stand for our movement
stand like a target for others to practice. Say that publicly, it is ok. But I think there should not be one right movement. I think there should be 100 right movements, most local and several national. Let the enemy be confused about what or who hit them. Let each have a different name, have no affiliation, neither chain of command nationally. Goals can overlap, no need to coordinate that either.
Dont march pre-announced that also helps the enemy.

We are fine without the resources of africa. It is not worth that much. We can trade with south america. Especially Argentina/Chile/Uruguay, even Brazil.

I think larpin is counter productive. And I dong give a shit about your feelingz about your desire of self expression. Work towards a goal or you are an obstacle.

>>137638097
>We need a leader like Jared Taylor.
No, you dont need any leader. Have independent cells that direct themselves towards a wn goal, separately and independently. 100 targets instead of 1 target for the enemy.

Who is your enemy?
blakcs? think again: its white traitor neo marxists who hand over your ass to nigs. That hey to be the main target of the movement.

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>guys we should let how the media portrays us define our message because what if some low-information normie gets turned off

the absolute state of /pol/ right now. the alt-right needs the right people, not the the most people

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>>137642212
>right people

>>137642212
The message shouldn't change, but presentation should. Waving American flags while dressed like we did at the cville torch march, while presenting the same ideals to cameras, presents us as the well-adjusted, (hopefully) physically fit, but far right group, not the unshaved fatass rednecks threatening civil war.

>>137642070
Please realize Hitler was fucking loser who's failure ultimately led to all the shitty problems we have now in the first place.

>>137642070
No you are stupid,
>it doesn't matter if I came dressed up as Hitler or Jesus
Yes it clearly does. If the media call you "LITERALLY HITLER" and you are dressed as Hitler people with think you are a retard.
If you dress as Jesus and they call you Literally Hitler, the media look like the retards.

>>137642419
Word is nazi flags were not encouraged, but it wouldn't have mattered one way or the other

>>137642472
>>137642452
Stop being emotional zealots and lurk moar. That advice is moot depending on what you are tho.

>>137602512
This is like THE paradox of 4chan. /pol/ needs a leader

bump for /arg/

>>137602512
They shouldn't be denounced, but they should be asked to hide their powerlevel or stay home

>>137607230
Should have done Hawaiian shirt with the tiki torches. Shitlord luau

>>137640833
>chanting "Gas the kikes"
I heard "Jews will not replace us" chanted, but not "Gas the kikes." Regardless, that's a fucking meme. It's the mob having fun. Stop telling people not to have fun.

What I think you're really referring to is Azz's little aside to the VICE camera. Everything he said was true and on message and you're a fucking fag for counter-signaling him.

>>137640848
I wish I could dismiss them as shills, but reading through the relevant MPC thread convinced me these dorks aren't kidding.

>>137641219
We want converts who are hardcore, not a bunch of Milo fans. If we moderate the message, we get moderates who think nigger jokes are funny and smoke weed with niggers on the weekend.

>>137612253
Soros?

>>137642940
Ya, and it's not Fucking Spencer. He is tainted

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shills replying to shills the thread

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And people say this man is not a shill.

If people start talking about securing ethnostates for other races and multicults as well as whites in america the kkk\neonazis #s should drop in half. We would have something that resembled multiple identity evropas.

>>137643426
Yes, the message we spread should be 100% within our current motives, but the symbolism we use is what I'm arguing should be changed or toned down. We also need to focus on moderating the message, to make it less like the deranged rambling of the Daily Stormer contributer on the VICE interview and more like an actual interview.
All I'm saying is waving the swastika and dressing like militants will give us an unsalvageable reputation extremely quickly, while dressing preppy waving American or our own symbolism is much more difficult to corrupt.
>>137643781
this thread clearly needs some 100% organic /pol/ strain BLACKED porn like the real discussions, right?

>>137643946
I don't think he's a shill, I just think he's retarded.

>>137637480
Hey cumbrain, you literally did the same.

>>137602512
>thinking spencer isn't anything but (((controlled opposition)))

he literally led a group of tiki-wielding tards to 1488 in public, and then immediately they were corralled into killzones where the police were ready to do nothing. wtf did they think would happen?

>>137642419
What do you think should change about the presentation?

>the unshaved fatass rednecks threatening civil war.
This characterization has never been accurate nor have we publicly presented ourselves as such at any event, and you know it.