/POL/ is NOT ALTRIGHT

The events of the last few days should be a wakeup call to the nazi larper shills here that They're not welcome. They're counter-productive to our Trump movement. They cause nothing but problems. The first amendment doesnt protect violent extremist groups like nazis and white supremacists.

>>137599325
This.

I make /alt-right general/ to counter these shills.

>>137599540
thanks for the bump commie

>>137599325
Just stop. No amount of shilling is going to change the fact that your boy is a farce. Nobody carries yiki torches and chants dumb shit and genuinely believes the shit coming out of their mouths. It's over. Go away.

>>137600012
>pol is one person
Also
>you're complaining that the media now associates /pol/ with nazi's?
reread my post you fucking leaf, I'm triggered by people who do this very thing

>>137599325

1) Spencer is a closet case with fantasies of fucking a bunch of Nazis, which is why he hangs around you guys in the first place. If you can't see that, your gaydar is broken.

2) Alt-right is dead as a brand. It's not happening and it's not coming back. Sperging out on normies about how there's really all these differences with the Nazis you guys isn't going to save the brand.

Stop hanging out with gay guys who just want to fuck nubile Aryan stormtroopers and stop trying to salvage a term that's never coming back.

>>137600757

>Sperging out on normies about how there's really all these differences with the Nazis
You idiot, I don't care about the alt right being called Nazis, I'm annoyed that people think pol and the alt right are one in the same

>>137601165

So why are you defending a guy who runs around throwing out Nazi salutes?

"Guys stop with these retarded comments about Richard, Heil Trump, he's legit, it's just the Roman salute you guys he's not some LARPing fag who wants to fuck me up the ass.

Oh and stop calling us Nazis I don't know why everyone calls me that just because I'm defending this guy who throws out Hitler salutes, I mean Roman salutes, this is so crazy that you'd think I was a Nazi."

>>137601729
Let me explain this to you slowly
Im alt-right
I dont care about being called a nazi because ANYBODY on the right will be called a nazi anyway
so why am I trying to differentiate pol and the alt right?
Shills are using this difference to shill against Richard. They say pol is alt right and Richard is our leader, this turns people against Richard before they do their own research on him. I want actual discourse on Richard because I like him and want people to make up their own mind and not have threads dominated by (((shills)))

/pol/ has nothing to do with the Alt right
for example, I can't even remember where I put mine, therefore it's obviously not necessary to function.

someone offered me a piece of their Alt Right the other day and I declined.

See? I think you'll find more Alt rights on plebbit, that's how /pol/ found out about them in the first place. we got raided by TRS shills and T_D faggots.

Before that, /pol/ was an agricultural board for the harvesting of memes in a safe, productive space

>>137603013
Richard Spencer? Who the fuck is this random that people keep mentioning. Sounds like a faggot. /pol/ is anonymous, tripfags go back to 9gag

>>137600757
Truly an abhorrent post.

>>137603904
kek

>>137599325
>(pro tip: they will call you a nazi anyway)

Therefore you should act like an attention whore and wave nazi flags and KKK symbolism, basically proving they're right? wew epic retard logic.

>>137604270
>leafpost

>>137599924
>go away

I've been here the whole time, unlike you, Shillenstein.

>>137604270
It is like being called racist. The left want to shift arguments from actual points into defending that you are not racist. They are putting you into a debate you cant win. For example, if you say "im not racist but...." leftists will go nuts and attack you, but if you say something like "im racist but I like based black guy in a trump hat" you throw them off guard and actually come off better to normies

>>137601729
Spencer never saluted. He raised his glass. The fact that you're repeating the fake news media's narrative makes it pretty obvious you're not actually a /pol/ack.

>>137603904

Watch one video of Spencer for ten seconds and faggotry is confirmed.

He's lisping at people like the OP in the gayest voice possible, he's obsessed with his clothes and his haircut to a point beyond all possibility of heterosexuality, and they still can't figure out that he's just doing this to try to fuck them. I don't know if it's denial or that schools have drummed gaydar out of people or what.

>>137605266
Would you rather prefer him to be a big skinhead biker?

>>137606392

I would question the heterosexuality of his followers less if he was.

>>137599325
Good post

>>137606955
Spencer's gay voice is actually effective because he disarms upper class liberals that sound like him

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>>137599325
Spencer is based, known about him since his very early NPI days.

Most of this board is too young to understand what the White Nationalist movement was like when Dr. Pierce was around. Most of the more academic white nationalists are in his tradition. Spencer may sound 'faggy' to you but he speaks in a lot of Nietzsche's terms and concepts.

None of them are calling for violence. The cointelpro FBI/ATF types prefer the militia movement and aryan brotherhood to co-opt. They're white trash, stupid, and have a lot of guns + explosives. Go do your research on Waco/Ruby Ridge/OKC and you can get a clearer picture.

If Spencer and his TRS buddies are CIA shills, they have done far more to awaken white consciousness than demonize it. None of their followers seem to be backing down, and have doubled down on pushing themselves into the mainstream. Seems like a pretty shitty tactic from the CIA who operates INTERNATIONALLY (again proof of /pol/'s youth). Most of you kids really don't know or what agency gets the orders to take these movement down.

If anyone is a shill its Anglin, but he just seems like a massive troll if anything.

If you want more milquetoast Dark Enlightenment/Neo Reactionary stuff I'd recommend Social Matters or Nationalist Public Radio.

Enjoy /pol/!

>>137607866
So much this, thank god there are people on pol who actually have some perspective
> The cointelpro FBI/ATF types prefer the militia movement and aryan brotherhood to co-opt. They're white trash, stupid, and have a lot of guns + explosives. Go do your research on Waco/Ruby Ridge/OKC and you can get a clearer picture
This is great man, I hope more people get this message

>>137599325
Ignore this thread.

>>137602745 Come help design the new flag of the right.

sage goes in the options box

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even if alt right was a good label it's become tainted because of larper spencer

>>137608755
Pay attention to posts like this, these are shills. They want to destroy any momentum the alt right has made and re-shape it into their (((image)))
The alt right survived Dylan Roof, it will survive this.

>>137608389
Thanks! Its kind of frustrating to see people on here thinking that a bunch of former-liberal alt-righters are the ones that will give the biggest ROI on cointelpro.

They'd rather fuck with the unhinged felons who think RAHOWA is tomorrow.

Also if anyone is interested in this, here is a book written in the early 00s by a Black woman that predicted the rise of the Alt-Right, and how it is extremely different from the white supremacist, militia, and neo nazi movements of old.

https://www.amazon.com/New-White-Nationalism-America-Integration/dp/0521545587

>>137608755
Johnny Monoxide is a close friend of mine. We used go for beers a lot before the Paranormies took off.

Hes a good dude, used to be in the Navy, and now works as an electrician. I know a lot of these guys, and they're pretty harmless vets, academics, or just normal people who are sick of whats happening.

Like I said in my earlier posts, the CIA or FBI or ATF, is getting a VERY shit Return on Income if they're putting their eggs in the Alt-Right basket, when they can easily get some aryan brotherhood neo nazi to do their bidding.

Try and have some historical perspective on this movement!

>>137599325
The media started pushing Spencer right before the election. It was not organic at all. They basically appointed him as a spokesman for white nationalism when no one had any fucking say.

Why didn't they push Sam Hyde instead? Maybe because he's not fucking CIA?

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pay attention to these shills
your shill routine is getting more convoluted by the day

>>137609472
Richard Spencer had his own think tank (NPI) and was mentored by a lot of people in the Paleo Conservative movement. He worked hard on getting interviews and presenting a very disarmed and approachable form of white advocacy. He still promotes a non-violent message, and handles press conferences with great skill.

Really don't understand all the push-back here, you don't have to like the guy. But he is doing a lot to bring white identity and consciousness into the mainstream. MSM has to chop up and severely edit his interviews, when people actually listen to what he has to say they are typically surprised at how peaceful and rational it really is.

There is really some unease i feel about spencer, the same i got about jews before i even knew anything about them.

His grin, general stiffness and useless talking really oozes a strange aura.

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>>137599325

/pol/ is dead and has been left behind in the conversation. Everyone who isn't a moron has moved on and left the shills to argue with themselves

Also can anyone explain to me why the CIA (who operates internationally) would pick Richard Spencer to be their non-violent figurehead?

Why wouldn't a domestic organization such as ATF/FBI go after him?

Or why wouldn't they go after a Militia member or someone who has a lot of guns and they can easily entrap with domestic terrorism charges?

What about sessions calling off all investigations into white supremacy movements?

What is the hard proof he is CIA? and not FBI or ATF?

Seems like there is some information I am missing here and if someone could give me something a little bit more tangible than him posing with Barbara Bush, that'd be great!

>>137609179
haha, was going to bring the book up because it was on the last fash the nation but couldn't remember the name

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>>137609060
No, the shills want to unite the conservatives that got Trump elected under the label alt-right, and poison that well with Nazi imagery, thus neutering it and making Trump a 1-term example to the normies on who not to elect.

You can prove me wrong when Spencer and co. somehow influence public policy, or get people elected into positions of power. Until then it's safe to assume YOU are the shill (or just a useful idiot).

>>137599325
I remember seeing someone describe him as a Pied Piper for the white nationalist movement. After this weekend's events, I'm thinking they might be right.

>>137599325
You alt right sheep can do whatever the fuck you wan't, can follow whatever Jew you want and use whatever Jew label on yourselves you want, just don't claim to represent me.

Has 4chan ever agreed on anything?

They act like theres someone in charge here

>>137609060
His name is spelled 'Dylann' not "Dylan"

>>137599325

Daily reminder that Richard Spencer and the alt-right is controlled opposition.

>>137610636
>Re: Trump elected

1) Trump was elected by primarily white americans, who fear they no longer have a voice. He got elected for Alt-Right issues such as immigration, nationalism, and being tough on crime.

2) Nazi imagery, what are you speaking about specifically? Sure Spencer raising his glass at NPI was bad taste, but other than that what? I hope you are aware CNN, USAtoday, and other media outlets have been taking KKK rally photos and calling them 'Unite the Right'.

3) Influencing public policy, this is hard to define by a hard number metric, but I think it is fair to say Spencer and company have shifted the overton window far to the right, and it has coincided with Trump. See the Raise Act.

4) Trump being 1 term president, I wouldn't be so sure. The democrats have NO bench and no one to run in 2020. They also are bleeding white votes dramatically. Blacks and Hispanics do not get out to vote enough, and Millienials are too demoralized to care or vote. They have a very bad strategy for 2020, and 2018 should be a show of force for that.

I wouldn't worry too much, wait for more facts to come out, and don't be gaslit by what CNN, FOX, or any MSM outlet thinks.

Hang tight friendo

Just curious, how is the man who is advocating non-violent rallies and discourages the neo-nazi larpers and kkk members. And openly admits charlottesville went wrong a shill?

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>>137607866
This is the smartest post Ive read on /pol/ in a month.
Based anon.

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>>137601729

>dude, the Nazis never chanted "blood and soil", they didn't even speak English lol

>>137611095
Hey do you mind responding to this?

>>137610221

Thank you

>>137611095
It would be hypocrtical of me to bash leties for baseless conspiracy stuff and not ask you for evedience for your claims

>>137599325
/pol/ needs to go back to its roots and just sit back and watch the happening. None of this left or right side, antifa, alt-right, white power, none of this shit. Just call out the Jews and watch the world go up in flames.

>>137611481
/pol/ used to be mainly Ron Paul libertarians and some stormfront users who would post holocaust revisionism threads. They both enjoyed happenings, and were for the most part explicitly pro-white. I would like to add libertarianism is a 99%> white ideology, based off of who actually discusses it.

>>137611481
most of these guys are newfags or cucks who got kicked off their other boards and took refuge here since it's one of the few places that lets you say pretty much whatever you want
I do agree with you though. Those were better times.

>>137599325
this. nobody even knows or cares who this guy is. there is no alt-right, it's bullshit.

>>137611847
Libertarianism is a 99%> anti-white ideology, based on who suffers from its sweeping idiocy

>>137611195
All that needs to be done is to expose the fake left wing movement, the facts are in our favour, the non violent majority is exposing the truth. The very last thing that was needed was a bunch of idiots using the exact same torch marches, phrases and slogans as were used in the Ukraine by the CIA backed fascist insurgents. Using a Jewish term to describe themselves and being herded like the sheep they are into ambush.

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The problem is not that we havent heard of him.
It's that we have and we're not fooled by the douchebag.

>>137612044
I mean it in the context that the only people who seriously discuss libertarian ideas are white, or jewish. Token blacks, asians and hispanics.

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>>137612044
A fucking leaf

>>137611847
Look at how far we have fallen.

>>137611481
JAMES 'ALEFANTIS' ROTHSCHILD

Full Name James A Rothschild
Birth Year 1974
Age 42

Associated Names
Jame Rothschild
James A Rothschied
James Rothchild
Possible Relatives
Name Age Birth Year
Katherine M Rothschild 39 1978
Henry H Rothschild 113 1903
Jennie Rothschild 40 1976
Louise M Rothschild 72 1945
Monica R Rothschild 66 1951
Tom A Rothschild 76 1940
Possible Associates
Name Age Birth Year
Anne E Silvestro 42 1975
Clark C Smith 45 1972
Frieda K Menashe 45 1972
Jodi Lynn Kabat 41 1976
Kimberly S Chessler 40 1977
Kuldeep S Malkani 41 1975
Mitchell M Hsieh 48 1968
Alexander L Macmillan 24 1992
Alexandra M Daitch 53 1963
Alexis S Macmillan 33 1984
Andrew C Macmillan 29 1987
Brian J Ebel 52 1964
C B Macmillan 90 1927
Camille E Macmillan 33 1983
Cargill I Macmillan 57 1959
Daniel H Macmillan 34 1983
Deborah G Macmillan 64 1952
Donna J Macmillan 85 1932
Duncan Macmillan 87 1930
Duncan Macmillan Whitney 87 1929
Earnestine W Haynes 68 1949
Elizabeth S Macmillan 56 1960
Glenda M Macmillan 67 1949
James C Macmillan 30 1987
John C Mac 67 1949
John C Macmillan Jr 36 1981
John H Macmillan 4th 65 1952
John C Macmillan 67 1949
John H Macmillan 89 1928
Kate M Reed 60 1957
Lucy Macmillan Stitzer 56 1960
Macmillan Cargill 57 1959
Marion W Macmillan 32 1985
Mark H Macguigan 48 1969
Martha Macmillan 65 1951
Martha B Stimpson 88 1929
Mary Ellen Sasen 76 1941
Paige E Macmillan 27 1990
Patricia Macmillan 63 1954
Pauline M Keinath 83 1934
Percy Macmillan 66 1951
Sandra M Kirkpatrick 45 1972
Sarah P Macmillan 32 1985
Sarah W Sasen 66 1950
Susan G Macmillan 68 1949
Tracy E Macmillan 57 1959
Whitney Macmillan Jr 63 1954
William B Macmillan 32 1984
William D Macmillan 68 1949

>>137612187
I know how you meant it.
>>137612262
a fucking anti-white

>>137612335
(Cont) Im only going to put 4 up....for cooroboration as to see if James "Rothschild" Alefantis
<--- has any ties to these properties....he does....it's him

2660 Scott St, San Francisco, CA 94123
Current Address
2435 Bay St, San Francisco, CA 94123
(Feb 2009 - Apr 2016)
315 Central Park W #5N, New York, NY 10025
(Apr 2006 - Feb 2009)
57 Peconic Ave, Southampton, NY 11968
(Jan 2009)

And I know for a fact he is VERY FAMILIAR with NYC and Cali
It's him, do reverse traces on the addys and numbers while im b&...pull it together lads!

57 Peconic Ave, Sag Harbor, NY 11963
(Nov 2006)
730 Hibbard Rd, Winnetka, IL 60093
(Jul 1994 - Apr 2006)
10 E 29th St, New York, NY 10016
(Feb 2004)
10 E 29th St, New York, NY 10016
(Feb 2004)
310 E 46th St #A, New York, NY 10017
(Dec 2001)
41 River Terrance #3804, New York, NY 10282
(Mar 2001)
41 River Ter #3804, New York, NY 10282
(Aug 1999)
41 River Te 3804, New York, NY 10282
(Jul 1999)
140 E 56th St, New York, NY 10022
(Oct 1996)
Phone Numbers
(212) 689-3967 Landline
(212) 222-7745 Landline
(815) 446-6345 Landline
(212) 253-7971 Landline
(212) 832-0391 Landline

He's either a CIA plant or really really really fucking retarded. I'm leaning towards plant, when NSM and KKK get bussed in you know something is fishy.

>>137612419
And I found his real father...

Roger James Rothschild
Birth Year 1941
Age 75


Associated Names
Jim R Rothschild
James A Rothschild <------------
James Rothschild Roger
Roger J Rotheschild
Possible Relatives
Name Age Birth Year
Peg Rothschild 67 1949
James A Rothschild 42 1974
Margaret L Rothschild 67 1949
Nina E Sonnier 68 1949
Thomas R Rothschild 36 1980
Possible Associates
Name Age Birth Year
Jodyne Roseman 70 1947
Amy Lynn Calder 44 1973
Michael L Donley 69 1947
Loren S Roseman 41 1976
Clerfe Sonnier 88 1929
Elissa M Turner 25 1991
Erin M Donley 33 1983
Imogene M Sonnier 90 1926
James M Sonnier 63 1954
Kelly M Brenan 42 1975
Mariagioia Franco 73 1944
Nicholas L Donley 36 1980
Paula E Phillips 73 1944

>Roger James Rothschild
>Birth Year 1941
>Age 75

https://www.linkedin.com/in/roger-rothschild-64ba6783

lives in Alaska - Adrenochrome hotspot
studied Molecular biology Biochemistry and Chemistry - Adrenochrome producing skills

Adrenaline and has to be stored in a cool place like comet ping pongs fridge.
It produces a euphoric high like DMT but is actually healthy for you.
This is also why places like ALASKA and seattle are hubs for trafficking.

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>>137612163
>we haven't heard of him

If you search /pol/ archives he has been mentioned as early as late 2012.

You are just new to right wing politics and have zero historical perspective on the movement.

I suggest going back to Charles Lindbergh's America first movement, studying American immigration law since 1790, and checking out Dr. William Pierce. George Lincoln Rockwell, FBI co-opt of the KKK, and the 90's Militia movement are also great starts. For the more academic side, check out Rushton, Jared Taylor, Peter Brimelow, and John Derbyshire.

Hopefully it can give you some perspective and you can see how we got here.

And welcome to the far-right!

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>>137612505
/thread.

>>137599325
Confederate statues aren't worth defending, at least not with big angry torch rallies like that. We can't keep these things around forever, and the statues themselves aren't very informative about what really happened. Petitioning mayors to put the removal to a referendum is really what people should be doing instead of holding marches.

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>>137612388
Your ad-hominem is ad-hominous

Lol. The altright is a creation of /pol/ whether you like it or not. Only newfags, cucks and shills disavow. We have been working on this movement for years, way before you fags showed up

>>137612505
The KKK wasn't there, unless you can give me other information to support that?

The media has been using photos from a July 8th KKK rally at the Robert E Lee monument, and passing it off as August 12th's Unite the Right.

Also what about his ideas are retarded?

>>137612505
Maybe because they supported his pro-white cause? Lol, there were 6k people there dude. The NSM and KKK were over exposed because thats who media wanted you to see. Not the young men or any of the new groups like Identity Evropa and American Vanguard.

>>137611847
>>137611865
Honestly I wish there were more euro terror attacks with tons of victims like bataclan. That way the little troubles at home are easily forgotten for the tragedies overseas. Picking a side never ends well and people giving /pol/ an "alt-right" label only serves to hurt it more.

>>137599325

>This meme needs to die, it is pushed by shills and idiots. Richard has been around for years and active on various right wing sites besides pol. If you don't like Richard that is completely understandable but helping shills with retarded comments that suppress actual praise or criticism of him and lower the discourse

This assumes alt right wasnt a manufactured meme by the left starting this past election cycle. When Obama took office alt right did not exist.

Prove me wrong. Until you do the rest of your argument hinges on this.

>>137612737
They are worth defending because they are part of our cultural and ancestral story. When the south lost, they put these statues up to honor these men's heroism in the face of battle. For as much as the North hated the south, they could let the south have their monuments to their fallen heroes. Its something Europeans have, honor and compassion.

Like it or not, these are emblems of White history, they start with Robert E Lee, and tomorrow Thomas Jefferson. Hell you can go on twitter and see them calling for the UVA Jefferson statue to be torn down.

>>137599325
Spence is cointelpro.
>Hillary invented
Made it and Spence relevant, didn't birth them.
>What is the alt right?
Not a real thing.
>ethno nationalist
A redundancy. Nationalism is an extension of Westphalian sovereignty. Non-ethnic nationalism is self-contradictory.

>>137612758
You can't commit a fallacy if there's no argument.
Libertardians are this fucking stupid.

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>>137612600
No stupid.
The guy is just bad juju.
You watch.
You're just new to adulthood and dont remember other Feds like Hal Turner (pic related) infiltrating the far right before.

>>137612819
Not his political ideas as much, more his antics in public like heiling in front of media cameras.
>>137612874
Maybe so. If I were Spencer I'd try to keep these guys out of the spotlight because they're just stereotypical meth heads who are usually doing violent shit.

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>>137599540

>>137613090
The kikes at Wikipedia know more about the alt right than you do

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Policy_Institute

Here are some points from wiki
From March to December 2007, Spencer was assistant editor at The American Conservative magazine. According to founding editor Scott McConnell, Spencer was fired from The American Conservative because his views were considered too extreme.[13] From January 2008 to December 2009, he was executive editor of Taki's Magazine.[18]

In March 2010, Spencer founded AlternativeRight.com, a website he edited until 2012. He has stated that he created the term alt-right.[9]

In January 2011, Spencer became Executive Director of Washington Summit Publishers.[19] In 2012, Spencer founded Radix Journal as a biannual publication of Washington Summit Publishers.[18] Contributors have included Kevin B. MacDonald, Alex Kurtagić, Samuel T. Francis, and Derek Turner.[20] He also hosts a weekly podcast, Vanguard Radio.

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>>137613090
Altright.com has been a thing since 2010, just because you haven't heard of it, just because you're only source for reactionary thought is 4chan and not any of the many other platforms out there, does not make said organization a spook.

>>137612970
The decentralized nature of /pol/ makes it so we cannot be alt-right here. Which is 100% a-OK and healthy.

With that being said, we should be informed on the movement, and not punching right for no reason.

If you go into any anti-fa discords, or people who are actively shilling this place. Their best weapon is posting polarizing threads on Richard Spencer, and pushing forward unsubstantiated claims about agent provocateurs.

You may not agree with centralizing a movement, but basic organizational management dictates hierarchies and organizations to enact change.

We can enjoy our decentralized nature here, when watching things like The Dornerbowl, but lets try to be informed before punching right.

>>137613353
I am 39 years old, the only one remotely close to Hal Turner is Andrew Anglin, and he isn't calling for blowing shit up now is he?

I remember Turner, and no figurehead in the alt-right is close to his form of radicalization.

>>137613559
Those points are from Spencer's wiki here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_B._Spencer

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>>137613090
Oh, god no. You're just wrong.
Not worth arguing with.
Spencer is still a fucking provocateur, fucking everyones shit up.
Fake and gay.

I've been browsing /pol/ for at least a few years, and I genuinely never saw a single mention of Richard Spencer until that 'heil' controversy after Trump got elected. He is not, and has never been, /ourguy/. What I'm not sure about is whether or not he's a complete false flag controlled opposition, or just some idiot who the media can easily build up and then knock down to try and tarnish the entire alt-right/Trump-supporting movement.

>>137613615
anything left of me isn't right, and I am therefore justified in punching it

>>137613406
You mean raising his glass in toast to Trump?

>>137599325
If someone on the right kills Richard Spencer the CIA will fucking ass rape them for it.

They won't let you kill one of their agents and get away with it.

>>137613830
There are more sites for reactionary thought than just /pol/ dude.

>>137613830
Ah here is that age old "Spencer has never been mentioned!"

Yet archives back in 2012 prove you wrong.

>>137613830
Has the media knocked him down? They have to heavily censor and edit his interviews. If you go watch any of his pressers he handles the media with great skill.

>>137599540
Agreed.
#BlackLivesMatter
#ImStillWithHer
#/pol/AgainstTrump
#WePunchNazis

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>>137613785
You're missing the point. He's subtler on some levels, but just as goofy on others. All that means is they've learned from the past a bit.
He does nothing but create problems for you guys.
Up to you.
But anyone who feels like they were dealt a blow this past weekend that took the wind out of years of memeing and fighting a superior fight can thank you fuckers.
Go be retarded somewhere else .

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>>137613810
You're arguments are nigger tier at best. Stop browsing /pol/ and do some research before you screech "SHILL SHILL REEE!!"

>>137613559

Fair enough. Literally have not heard of it till last year.

alt right just seemed like a way for the left to write off anyone who doesnt agree with them.

>>137599325
youve been posting this shit before.
most people dont give a fuck about your richard spencer.

>>137613830
He's 100% cointelpro.
>finally gets a stage
>sieg heiling on stage
>while doing a faux roman salute
They gave him a publicity and he gave them the material they wanted. 90% of what he's done since is countersignaling the right, constantly criticizing anyone on the right, praising faggotry, praising communism, praising Judaism. It's not the David Duke situation again. Spence is disingenuous and inconsistent.

He's cointelpro.

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>>137613830
>I've been browsing /pol/ for at least a few years, and I genuinely never saw a single mention of Richard Spencer until that 'heil' controversy after Trump got elected.
No, he was spoken about quite often before that, mostly to make fun of his "hipster fascism" aesthetic and faggoy voice. When the Trump thing blew up the entire pro-Trump astroturk "handlers" that were working the board went into 200% anti-Spencer shill mode, and that's when everyone here was first debating whether he was a shill or not. Prior to that, he was just a joke. I don't think he's CIA, just a pseudo-intellectual who's a lot dumber than he sounds. He's only in his position because he's a trsutfund kid, he's a terrible leader and will be replaced if white identitarians want to seriously grow and win. He's a PR man and a shitty one at that, not a leader.

>>137599325
oh yes daddy

>>137613830
Again
>I have not heard of Richard Spencer until now, so that means he is controlled opposition
Do your own research dude, just because you only go on pol does not mean that it is the only right wing site out there. I also stated that the alt right and pol are different

>>137614074

Which is sorta irrelevant when this thread is discussing /pol/ and its association with alt-right

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>>137614206
>#/pol/AgainstTrump?

That will immediately expose you as a shill.
Lurk moar.

Sooo many shills...

>>137613920
Can you respond to this post

>>137610221


I am inclined to think you are doing some form of 'shilling', because you cannot substantiate your claims or offer a more rational version based off of historical context within the White nationalist movement.

>all this alt-right infighting

Glorious.

>>137599325
Hillary Clinton meme'd the 'alt-right' into existence so the anti-progressive online movement could be singled out and frozen.

>>137614322
be wary of the shills my man, whole reason I made this thread was to get the truth out there and have an actual discussion

>>137614716
Yeah, hopefully people start killing each other, it will only help spark the upcoming american civil war.
USA needs to be destroyed.

>>137614716
Not really any infighting going on in the Altright desu, just in /pol/.

>>137614373
yeah all he does now is attack people on the right.
yet does these "unite" rallys. its all a big joke.

>>137614269
I am not demoralized, or upset about this weekend at all. It was a success. The driver acted in self defense, and the state violated the civil rights of White Identitarians.

Try not to be so demoralized that you start concern trolling.

Spencer, nor the alt-right has not lost any of their support, and it has already emboldened the support they have had. Any whites who choose not to wake up in the next 5 years, will not be needed.

You will wish for the days when things were as simple as being denied the right to protest.

This movement will eventually have to get off of the chans and away from anonymous frog posting, I am sorry anon. Maybe you can help us out by getting a job in a Federal agency and enacting change from within?

but for now, punching to the right doesn't seem to be doing much, and you seem to be doing the jew's job for him.

Good luck

>>137614322
It is. It had no relevancy here whatsoever before Clinton's media goons ran with it. Hell, the "dark enlightenment" shitshow a few years prior had a presence orders of magnitude greater here. Alt-right was not a thing here. Spencer was not here. Clinton media made them. They chose the label, they chose the man. He repaid them.

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sage af senpai

>>137614074
>>137614459
The thread is specifically about whether /pol/ is alt-right or not. I don't browse any other sites that might be alt-right, so I can't really comment on how well-known he was elsewhere.

>>137614169
>>137614402
I wasn't saying he'd definitely never been mentioned, just that I browse semi-regularly and never saw it. The momentum behind the likes of Trump and Brexit, which is what you might call the true spirit of /pol/, has very little to do with Spencer or the alt-right in my opinion.

What I'm starting to suspect now is that they deliberately allowed this guy (or instructed this guy) to remain respectable and gain supporters amongst the Trump base, and then waited for (or instigated) something like what happened at Charlottesville so they could use it to launch a big attack on Trump. I'm not sure if that will be the final happening of this strategy, or if the violence will escalate further.

>>137615111
maybe richard spencer is ok with being labeled a nazi
but the majority of people on the right never asked for this.

>>137614324
this.
shills need to go back to the drawing board.

>>137612819
From out of nowhere, this anon shows up dropping truth. Doing good work sir.

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>>137613207
>You can't commit a fallacy if there's no argument.
That's where you're wrong, kiddo.
In either event, it appears you have about as much critical thinking as the chair I'm sitting on, so one day I hope the rake judges you fairly.

>>137615335

Too bad you have no proof of any of this, really no better than the russian collusion delusion resist types.

I support Richard Spencer, he does very well in press conferences, and I will not cast him out because he toasted Trump. It probably ended up being better PR for him in the long run by garnering millions of views on youtube.

Nice concern troll though

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>>137615111
God, the punching right meme.
Punching infiltrators and agent provocateurs is not punching right.

The frog memers fot Trunp elected without you when the world seemed unsavable.
So far all you guys have done is fuck peoples shit up.
That you dont care means you are not our friends, and the people here are starting to realize it.

>>137615466
He isn't, maybe you should go listen to some of his interviews in relation to "hailgate".

The majority of people on the right will have to embrace identitarianism within the next 5 years. Demographics point to this, and if you continue to practice individualist politics or ideology, you will only lose out.

I'd suggest doing your research on the demographic situation that we will be faced with in the next 5 years, and imagine what kind of political movement we will need to exist.

Normies will have to join, or die feeling like the conservative movement is.

Sorry anon, demography is destiny.

>>137600757
t. steve bannon

>>137599325
(((Protip))): you're a dumb cunt

>>137615710
>Too bad you have no proof of any of this
Check the archives. They had no presence here, not Spencer, not the "alt-right" label. Not until Clinton's media goons ran with it. They had less mentions than Milo Janospopulopoplolopo using his full name, or most misspellings of it imaginable.

Then suddenly they get more mentions in single days than they ever had total. It's a fact. They simply weren't relevant. Not until Clinton's media goons made them.

>>137615496
>>137615347
>got to catalog
>several thread against Richard Spencer
>made one thread that is neutral to pro Spencer but focused on spreading information about him
>get called shill
I'm sorry, I should have just posted (((richard spencer))) with le ebin photoshop and get 200+ replies

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>>137616086
Not an argument.

>>137615639
>rather than the position they are maintaining
You should be more worried about your reading comprehension skills than my critical thinking skills.

>>137615885
So an old CIA publishing house published Jared Taylor, K.Mac, Johnson, and Spencer?

Wow, I guess we shouldn't listen to those guys and throw out how influential their work has been.

Unfortunately your brand of civic nationalist trump frog posting will be meaningless. No one cares when you kekistani boys go out and protest. You aren't saying anything truthful, just rebranded conservatism for millennials.

And apparently, you are not familiar with the on the ground political actions being done in the rust belt by White Nationalist/Alt-Right groups to help swing those votes.

Keep thinking posting frogs on twitter is the best way to save the white race and awaken white consciousness.

>>137605266
He's probably not gay, dude. That's literally just what all Boston WASPs are like.

>>137599540
autistic niggerfaggot

>>137616415
Not everything is an argument you dumb cunt. Ever heard of an insult?

>>137599325

These Nazi Larpers are a fringe group microscoped by the media to make all conservatives look bad.

>>137616457
I'm not too worried about it, to be honest, considering you attacked the libertarian position by calling them anti-white in the first place, and the origins of this "debate" (more like a shit flinging contest) was you then calling me anti-white specifically.
Try again?

>>137616039
do you have an account on the trs forums or a youtube channel? I don't have either but would like to talk more on something besides pol

>>137599325
>The altright is based upon the dark enlightenment. These are neo reactionaries mixed with ethno nationalist tendencies.

As we saw by the people in the Unite the Right event, the alt-right is the garbage can of american politics, all the rejects are there trying to form some shapeless blob that can (they hope) fight the big parties.

>>137616258
Spencer and Alt-Right go back to 2012.

The far-right has been around far longer than /pol/ and their flirting with libertarianism in 2012. Again, /pol/ is not the only right wing site out there buddy. These guys were talking about white identitarianism when you were sharting around with free markets on /new/.

They used Trump's Alt-Right issues such as Immigration, Nationalism, and being tough on Crime as a vector to catapult themselves to the national stage.

I really don't get this fascination with wanting to appease the CNN types.

We're in the bottom of the 9th, more non-white babies are being born than white, hell as a swede your country will be third world in a decade....

And you think we should still be shitposting and posting frogs on twitter? Yeah what a great winning strategy that has been for you.

>>137616674
I called you anti-white because you tried to use a white nationality as an insult. How is that not anti-white?
Try again?

>>137616700
Yeah

[email protected]

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>>137615335
Milo's article, if anything, (which preceded the Hillary stupidity) thrusted the so-called alt-right into the relative mainstream. But in order for MIlo to have gotten to the point where the article was necessary there had to be - and there was - a much longer history. Why dont you at least look up milo's "guide to the alt right"?

Personally I think you are just trolling Spencerfags, which is fine (and working it seems) but if not, you are just factually way off.

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/03/29/an-establishment-conservatives-guide-to-the-alt-right/

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>>137616590
Thanks for letting ke know you're only here to shitpost and disrupt discussion. You should ask the JIDF to hire you.

>>137617049
what site is that for?

>>137617024
>I called you anti-white because you tried to use a white nationality as an insult
Where have I done that? The first thing I sent was a pic showing how what you said was even below ad-hominem (and calling you a fucking leaf), then after you proclaimed me as anti-white, I told you how fucking stupid that is (using less harsh words, of course).
Show me exactly where I said that.

>>137616462
>influential
kind of like the plague

>>137616595
Conservatives make themselves look bad by being fucking cucks.

>>137617318
>a fucking leaf
>not using a white nationality as an insult
tfw no reading comprehension skills led to me being libertarian

>>137616920

>catapult themselves to the national stage.

The only one putting this sad role play on the national stage is the liberal media in an attempt to polarize the country against conservatism.

Spencers movement is a bunch of useful idiots for the left.

>>137617295
its a temp mail

ill send you something to reach me on

>>137617329
Yeah Culture of Critique totally ruined the movement and did far more damage than help it.

Do you realize how ill informed you are?

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>>137599325
Agree with ur shit op. But I do believe Spencer is controlled op to discredit us as much as possible. Tiki torches are gay. Nazi flags are gay too. Suck it stormfags. What pissed me off the most was the vice episode last night with that asshole stormfag saying they were spreading their memes. NAZIS are not the only people memeing. Vice very specifically wanted to equate NAZIS with memes. Pissed me off man. They can't control our narrative. We will out jew the Jewish media. I swear to fucking God man.

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>>137617453
What you've just written there, just gave me more autism then I might've already had.

>>137617446
the talking point you guys have been given today
has been "call everyone a cuck". very impressive.

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>Implying Richard Spencer isn't controlled opposition

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I hope that all black brother will agree that we will be tearing down the statues until we will take down Washington's memorial. That scum had 317 slaves and and he is still being worship as god. This is nonsense.

FUCK YALL IM
ALT-LEFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Lmao

>>137617483
No, conservatism is dead. No one gives a fuck about about free markets, gun rights, or whatever the fuck you believe in.

Demography is Destiny. Conservatism is a purely white thing, hispanic and black pets aside.

I don't understand why you want to preserve this Jewish Neo-Con perversion that is Conservatism today.

Your movement has done nothing but lose, and continue to lose. You are done. Get on the identitarian train, or get left in the dust. When we get the immigraiton under control we can debate free markets vs centrally planned ones, but until then none of that fucking matters.

>>137617639
To put it in terms your incredibly autistic self might understand:
If you use a white nationality as an ad hominem to dismiss a position, how is that not anti-white?

First I heard about him is when that poop eater punched him.

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>>137617716
Cuckservatives haven't won the hearts of the youth, hell they havent won ANYTHING, until Trump came along, and even then they still fought him. Face it, Conservatives are impotent cucks.

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>>137617947
You're right in thinking that it's anti-white, I'm not at all disputing that.
What I'm disputing is the fact that I never used white nationality, or even referenced it. You did what the normal person might call
>putting words in my mouth

>>137618110
say cuck some more, you havent quite proved your point.

>>137618242
Canadian is a white identity anon.

I know we may joke about it being post-nationalist dildo fest, but it still is a white identity.

I have over 9000 confirmed posts on /pol/ and I fully identify as an alt right neo nazi.

>>137618326
So suddenly calling someone "a fucking leaf" is assaulting someone's race? Because that's all I did.

>>137617929

>When we get the immigraiton under control

Yeah, If you haven't notice that is exactly what trump is doing. Scuffling around in a park with plastic shields isn't doing a fucking thing to help with that.

How about you drop the Nazi iconography, (which hitler himself is rolling in his grave over some retarded americans using it), and go volunteer your time to put up some border fencing.

>>137618242
>a fucking leaf
They're your words. You'd think a libertarian would understand responsibility for their own actions. I'm surprised someone who'd go as far as to use the an-cap to represent that would be so milquetoast.

>>137616920
>I really don't get this fascination with wanting to appease the CNN types.
Their ideas don't matter, they're compromised. If you want to tag along and follow a cointelpro "leader" just because he pays you some lip service then knock yourself out.

But don't lie. Spencer, and the "alt-right" label simply weren't relevant here at all until Clinton's goons made them. Even the "dark enlightenment" shitshow had a presence orders of magnitude greater. Those are facts.
>I really don't get this fascination with wanting to appease the CNN types.
Since when does forging your own path mean playing by your enemy's rules?
>And you think we should still be shitposting and posting frogs on twitter?
You should follow someone sincere with a proven track record, not latch onto an intelligence operative.

>>137618514
See >>137618428

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>>137618278
CONSERVATIVES
ARE
IMPOTENT
LOSERS
WHO
ARE
ALL
CORPORATE SHILLS
AND
BABY BOOMER
WARHAWKS
THAT WANT
AMERICANS
TO
DIE
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TCR Ghost discredited the ALT-RIGHT and Rich Spencer long before anyone else did.

As far as I'm concerned Rich Spencer is a media whore and a total Fruit, and he brought all these larper losers out for public scrutiny (for life) by the Media.

And all for what?! Memes?? Because of Pepe or some stupid shit?

>>137618326
>candian
>white

>>137617169
That article's how I first heard about the alt-right.

>>137618582
i know impotent was another of your talking points.
these nazi fags are all being directed in case you havent noticed.

>>137618596
self promotion. he wanted to be heroically arrested and become a right wing martyr, but he forgot that his followers are mentally ill spergs who drive cars into crowds.

>>137618110

>haven't won the hearts of the youth

Please stop being a useful idiot. Your biggest rallies are smaller than a my little pony convention. You represent a small fringe group the left is trying to blow out of proportion.

>>137617169
>But in order for MIlo to have gotten to the point where the article was necessary there had to be - and there was - a much longer history
The gay jew is a provocateur, of course he gets attention. That's what he does.

Yes, people already saw some commonality between the dissident right splinters and there'd even been attempts like the "dark enlightenment" before at a brand under which to spell out those common core principles. Which had some growth and then died because the name was fucking stupid. It was organic. The "alt-right" is entirely a media fabrication, and so is Dick's prominence in it.

>>137618582
AUTISM
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>>137618580
If you insult someone for being white, that's anti-white. How can you not understand this?
>libertarian intellectuals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb8cErokGFs

>>137618446
Again who is using Nazi imagery? The protest had 2000 people from very different organizations. And you are probably being gaslit by the media that is showing July 8th KKK rally photos at Robert E Lee park.

Trump has taken a very small step on the immigration issue, and it is not enough. White consciousness needs to be awoken to this, because its already too late. We are 60% and there are more non-white babies born than white. The game is pretty much over. The complete anti-whiteness from conservatism, media, and corporations, should prove to any white worth their salt they are being replaced.

We do not need idle fence sitters and atomized individuals who do not feel kinship to their brothers and sisters.

Charlottesville launched is to the center of the media narrative yet again, giving us control over the narrative. We will continue to do this again and again and will not be ignored.

The time for legislative action has long since passed, I can't wait to see the shit show when Trump tries to get the Raise act through.

>>137618869
most bronies aren't risking their lives by going to conventions

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>>137618869
My little pony conventions aren't met with 200+ violent protestors.
My little pony conventions doesnt make the local government call in SWAT to shut it down because their ideas are scary.
Face it, we are the future.

>>137618918
So hold up.
You're telling me the following:
If I poke fun at where you reside, that is insulting someone for being white? I did not mention race, at all, until you brought it up.

Here are the implications of that statement:
If you call me a burger, you're anti-white.
If you call a Jap a Nip, you're anti-Asian.
If you call an Indian a poo-in-loo, you're anti-brown.

Think about this, anon.

>>137617453
Another Leaf, this time he built a (lolbertarian) strawman.

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>>137599540

>>137619069
you are not paying attention if you think this rally was
similar to the many other rallys that have taken place
and haven't had any problems.

>>137599325
yep, it's black and white

but also if yo don't support the alt-right you are a huge fucking problem for whites and are in the way for us. Stop being so fucking puritan och principled and join something.

>>137618549
Are you saying White Identitarian ideas 'don't matter'?

Dark Enlightenment and the Alt-Right have many fellow travelers, most of them coalesced into the Alt-Right or participate in activism along side.

We cannot be decentralized forever, and organizations will eventually spring up with hierarchies and leaders. Operations management 101.

Being an atomized individualized asshole with no connection a collective will get you nowhere, and by the sheer inertia of a collective movement you will be lumped in, so strap in.

>playing by enemies rules
You are, you are too afraid to stand up for your beliefs, no matter how edgy or offensive they may be. You are stuck in perpetual victim hood and are too afraid and weak to own the negative and hard path that comes with advocating for white identity in the public square.

We don't need people like you, and this is just proof as to why Sweden is an entirely lost cause. I would be out in the streets if I were you.

Again you have not substantiated any claims of him being an intelligence operative, nor rationalized why the CIA or whomever would go with the non-violent tactic vs the easy to do McVeigh/Hal Turner tactic.

It's a shit return on income to have this guy out there bringing in more whites day after day.

>>137619069

>Again who is using Nazi imagery?

It was a small minority in the group i'm aware, but it shouldn't have been tolerated at all. It was a huge mistake and only helped the left define the movement as a hate group.

Trump has done more to curb immigration in his first 100 days than any president in the last 100 years. We are currently have the upperhand on it, and unite the right larpers did nothing to help maintain that.

Spencer is only out for himself, looking for anyway to get media attention even if it hurts the president.

>>137616920

The person you are arguing with said alt-right didnt exist on /pol/ prior to the election. You argued they existed elsewhere therefore missing the point.

>>137619365
You're avoiding the question:
>If you use a white nationality as an ad hominem to dismiss a position, how is that not anti-white?
You also said, in contradiction to your new post, and in response to
>If you use a white nationality as an ad hominem to dismiss a position, how is that not anti-white?
your post:
>You're right in thinking that it's anti-white, I'm not at all disputing that.
And now you're disputing it. Are you fucking high or something? Do you have no idea what's going on?

>>137619879
I have said in other posts that his name appears in archives as far back as 2012.

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>>137618878
Its a fabrication alright - and as a label it's being memed and misapplied by the stupid MSM and THEY didnt pick up on it to any large degree until the Hillary debacle.
Also, the Spencerfags have done NOTHING but insert themselves into other more successful movements and organic waves of youthful creative energy. So the ARE if nothing else parasitical.
But Hillary and her goblins could never have dreamed this up. And this is my only point.
So far the only people who have benefited from Spencer are pic related and the MSM.

>>137619069
can you copy and paste that message again? I didnt see it the first time.

>>137599540
CTRL + V must be worn off your kb by now faggot.

All the alt right/e-celebs (inb4 the "calling these threads as ecelebs is the most effective weve done so far) is coming from USA

Its obvious psyops

>>137619856
Again

We are in the bottom of the 9th. 60% and falling population. Non-White babies outnumber White babies.

Do you think this is the time to be playing democratic politics or going by political means? That boat sailed in the 90s when an actual Agent Provocateur (Tim McVeigh) killed the movement.

The concern trolling is appalling.

You should be out there getting the true narrative out of what happened there.

About how the police denied the civil rights of the UTR, about how they were assaulted by police, then forced into hordes of anti-fa to fend for themselves.

You should be spreading imagery of the bat hitting the bumper of James Fields car, and advocating for the self-defense narrative.

But here you are, like the sad little victim, crying about how Spencer might have already turned a leftist normie off.

We do not need people like you. Get with the fucking times.

>>137620060
>>137612819

google that rally, then reverse image search and you will see those pics in current articles

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>>137619929
I haven't avoided any questions yet, and I answered it. Here, let me spell it out for you, so you can read it slowly and fully, and finally get it through your dense fucking head:
I think it is anti-white to use white nationality as an ad-hominem.

However, where you falter is the fact that I didn't use white nationality as an ad-hominem.
I said "a fucking leaf", which pokes fun at your dumb fucking flag, the same way saying "amerifat" or "burger" pokes fun at the American diet. They aren't anti-white statements.
I didn't say "dumb fucking whitey" or whatever the left says these days.
I don't understand how you're confused by this. I'm pro-white, in the sense that I don't have a horse in any particular race race. Nowhere have I said I'm anti-white, and in fact, YOU are the only one who has. And thus far, without any evidence.
So now, do me a favor, and read the posts I've written one more time. Read them all the way through. And finally see that I'm not anti-white, I haven't used an anti-white slur, and you're not listening to what I'm saying.

>>137599325
>>How are they different from pol?
We are the human centipede both producing and consuming each others shit. We are the cultural corpse of computer enthusiast, the early adopters of the Internet. We understand web culture better than anyone, because we circle around the core of it. As we gravitate towards the center, everything else gravitates towards us.

Nobody can conquer us. How could you? Virtually we have no existence. This is just text on a screen. You are all alone, by yourself, talking to a computer.

Give up Spencer.

there are many non shill people who dont like spencer here. the shills are just capitalizing on it. smart move by those fags. personally i think spencer is cia

>>137620487

>Do you think this is the time to be playing democratic politics or going by political means?

By ignoring politics you basicly saying you are an enemy of trump and his administration. Thus you are my enemy. Glad we understand each other.

Your movement is a political dead end, and your childish ideals will only hurt white communities.

desu more than half of the names I read on 4chan are american things I have never heard before

I'm starting to think all those fags doing alt-right demonstrations in USA are actually from here

>>137621029
that is perfectly fine, spencer has made questionable decisions. I wanted to get info out there so people can make up their own mind and not be influenced by shills

>>137619796
What I'm saying is that a traitor's words have no value. Look at what he does. He gives the media what they want, when they want it and constantly tries to dissuade people from the right. By flinging shit at anyone on the right, by countersignaling and praising judaism, faggotry and communism. He's not working to your favor.

"Ethnic" nationalism is the only form of nationalism. Nationalism is an extension of Westphalian sovereignty, one nation(people) under one state which is the only form in which a nation can be autonomous and the people can be free. I haven't told you to cuck out and play by their rules, I haven't ever argued for any civics horseshit, hell I haven't even disparaged the idea of trying to form a loose coalition out of the dissident right.

Just don't follow cointelpro. Spence didn't become relevant because he made the "alt-right". He didn't become relevant because his ideas or his actions made the right acknowledge him. He became relevant because the jewish media made him relevant, and you can bet your ass they did so for a reason.

You've got 6 years while Trump deals with the greatest issues to establish a framework for the next election. To eke out your coalitions, form your hierarchies and appoint your leaders. Use it.

>>137621290
We have better things to do than to be a cheerleader for Trump and his neo-con foreign policy.

He was a top down phenomena, and he has the whole state and establishment against him. I respect him for that, but it is very unlikely he will be able to get the type of stuff we need done.

Ballot box type shit is done for though, you are showing how young you are with your naive belief daddy trump is going to save you.

Enjoy being a dishonest about your political beliefs and having to hide them and lie about them to try and get anything done.

Meanwhile we will be proud, strong, and not be the victims who rely on a Jewish controlled businessman to get things done.

>>137599325
>pol
>not altright

HIDE, SAGE, IGNORE SHILL THREADS

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>>137620487
Let's say your efforts were guaranteed failure and infiltration. Can you even suspend your hysterical fear long enough to consider that?
Because that's what's going to happen and definitely appears to already be happening.
You have the panicked mental catastrophizing, that, whether justified or not, causes people to get killed. And it has already happened.
So Fuck you.
You arent useful to anyone.
You can go start a Davidian ranch with guns and white women/babies and arm youselves to the teeth or you can face the extremely frustrating reality that the White normies dont even SEE the problem yet. Believe it or jot it's actually going to have to get much worse before what you are trying to do will get the traction to make it the best course of action. You are misjudging yours and the enemies actual position right now.
So while you're whipping up autists and turning them into terrorists (intentionally or not) Trump is in the WH. People like US put him there.
The cultural shift needed to prepare the minds of average people to even see whats going on was WELL underway
UNTIL YOU FUCKERS RUINED IT.
If we manage to bounce back from this, get far the fuck away because you guys are cancer.
Hear me when I say this and reflect on it.
Just aske yourself the question - who has benefited from the Spencerfags.
WHO?!
fucking wake up.

>>137620030
I think we're on the same page then.

>>137620615
At this point, you're just trying to justify your anti-white sentiment. You responded to your ideology being referred to as anti-white by insulting my white nationality, or as you're trying to justify it, making fun of my flag. If you responded to a black person calling libertarianism racist with >a fucking basketball american, he would never let you get away with claiming to not be racist, and I won't let you get away with claiming to not be white for insulting my white heritage.
The fact that you would do this also shows that you're an extremely duplicitous person, because while you take this effort to justify your anti-white sentiment, you then go on to repeatedly deny that you're anti-white. If you weren't anti-white, why would you justify anti-white sentiment?

>>137622043
>claiming to not be white
Sorry, little typo there, I meant
>claiming to not be anti-white

>>137620487
Cut out the defeatism. You could rocket your demographics by 10 units just by enforcing the law and deporting illegals. That's the main point he got himself elected on; no illegals. Send them back and build the wall.
That's a good fucking start.

>>137621779

haha wow, you are dumb as fuck if you think marching around with tiki torches and plastic shields is going to start some revolution.

in a sane world with objective media coverage no one would have given a shit about that small inconsequential rally.

>>137618278
>say cuck some more
The kike cuck cuckingly cucked.

>>137622043
You have been repeatedly misrepresenting my arguments, and to this end I have little regard for your arguments in turn. However, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, because dialectic is the best way to formulate stronger opinions in the future.
I repeatedly deny that I am anti-white, because I am not. And while you may not believe it, your beliefs are not particularly interesting to me (We are anons to each other, after all).
However, my "attempts to justify my anti-white sentiment" are just my attempts to justify to you WHY "a fucking leaf" isn't anti-white. Additionally, the fact that you've ignored my original argument, that your saying:
>Libertarianism is a 99%> anti-white ideology, based on who suffers from its sweeping idiocy
Is wrong (through my image, which I've since told you again that was the point of the original post), speaks volumes about your intent in this discussion.
I'd also like to point out that I'd never say
>a fucking basketball american
Because not all black people play basketball. All residing Canadians, however, have a national flag that has a leaf. It's a valid generalization, because it's logically true.
Why would you bring up black people? Why is this still about race, when thus far all I've been trying to get across is the fact that your original statement is false?

>If you weren't anti-white, why would you justify anti-white sentiment?
If I called you a communist, and you weren't, would you not attempt to justify your position as well?

>>137621894

>UNTIL YOU FUCKERS RUINED IT.

Stop with the bitchy, self-righteous ranting. If you're right then 'we' can't afford to be squealing profanities and 'I know better than you's at one another, who exactly does that help?
Oh, its the shills who have been exaggerating the effect of Cville for almost a week.

I refuse to lose hope over some fat cow's obscene weight making her incapable of surviving a blow that killed literally noone else, not even the guy who got squashed between two cars.

You can rant autistically and die old and bitter still obsessing over how those damn spencerfags ruined everything, or your can fail better, that's what the commies and Muslims do, and they have infiltrated the government and cowed the West respectively.

>>137621618
Another reason to be wary besides him being cointelpro is that he and his ideas simply aren't suited towards an umbrella term. It's not the commonalities behind which you can rally such disparate groups as the dissident rights, he's just latching on to anything with relevance and promoting his own ideology. He's schismatic, attending to cannibalize other right movements by fronting their difference instead of cooperating by rallying to their commonalities. The Spencer "alt-right" can not serve its purpose. Coalitions are pragmatic entities and the "alt-right" is a pure ideology. It's an island, not a bridge, and it doesn't espouse principles that everyone from fascists, WN, to libertarians will rally behind. It's a clearly delineated, well-defined ideological splinter in itself. Which runs contrary to the whole purpose of an umbrella label like "alt-right".

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>>137599325
You're dicky spencer has tarnished "alt-right" and entire white nationalist movement with autistic and cringy national socialist and confederate larping.
How the fuck did you expect to be respected when you use most cringy shit imaginable.

You're leader basically destroyed "alt-right" credibility of not being yet another neo-nazi shitfest.
So fuck off. /pol/ never was (((alt-right))) faggotry.
/pol/ is /pol/

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>>137623396
>If I called you a communist, and you weren't, would you not attempt to justify your position as well?
No, I'd say you're wrong, because I'm not a communist.
Anyway, your biggest problem seems to be that you really don't like that I called libertarianism anti-white, even though it is, since you're just repeating justifications I've already dismissed and quibbling over semantics like the pedantic autist you already admitted you are.
One of the founding principles of libertarianism is the free exchange of goods, services, and people.
>Free immigration (free movement of people) is often regarded as one of the core concepts of libertarian theory and philosophy.
However, only white people, beyond tokens, are libertarians. The free exchange of people, but only one way, is leading to the decline of white people having their own countries. Libertarians support that. I've included a picture since hopefully that will be easier for you to understand than words.

>>137614402
You might be right, I'm beginning to think railing against this guy for not naming the jew is not the right approach.

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>>137624412
>your biggest problem seems to be that you really don't like that I called libertarianism anti-white
You're correct, that's my issue, because it isn't true.
>The free exchange of people, but only one way, is leading to the decline of white people having their own countries.
Notice how it's governments who are importing voters. I subscribe to anarcho-capitalism, which is the logical conclusion to libertarianism, and we don't advocate free immigration or open borders (Because all property is privately owned).
>Libertarians support that.
There are two distinct groups of libertarians in the public today. There are libertarians (lowercase L) who believe in the ideology and all its facets. Then there are Libertarians (uppercase L), who are, in essence, Republicans. These people are the vocal minority who shout the loudest, sort of like the stormfags on /pol/.
I've seen that pic before, even posted it in a few /leftypol/ threads when I went over to raid them.
I can understand your confusion between the though, because in the media 99% of what you see are the Libertarians. I really fucking hate these people.
For more info, see http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/libertarianism.html#A7

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>>137625378
me:
>libertarian is anti-white, here's why
you:
>no it's not, because I'm an-cap
>also I insult people for being white but I'm not anti-white
>and libertarian means whatever I say it means
You really jebbed that one up. You're a big, fat mess.

>>137619069
>>137619796
>>137620487

Prior to Charlottesville, confederate monuments were a 50/50 issue. Now no one will defend keeping these statues around. Likewise for white nationalism. We all know theres nothing wrong with being white and theres nothing wrong with being nationalist. Now no one can realistically legitimize the words white + nationalism in the same sentence because you played into the medias hand.

If you cannot realize how making a caricature of yourself and allowing the left to delegitimize the entire conservative/right platform because of you alt-rights, there is no reasoning with you people. Youll just kamikaze your movement to spite your face.

>But dem antifas! Haha, that will show them!

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>>137625847
>be you
>get called a fucking leaf
>take it as a racial insult
>spend over an hour repeating lies
>get mad when someone spends an hour repeating themselves too
Suddenly, the truth appears
>still you
>mind doesn't know what to do
>construct strawman the size of a Jurassic-period animal
>checkmate.jpg
Wow, what a great not-argument.

>>137599540
I agree. The 'nazis' destroy the alt-right movement. I understand how Hitler wanted to protect Germany from the jews, right after he witnessed what they did to Russia (Gulag, Communism etc)
But waving the Nazi flag will never do ((the)) movement any good.

You nazi fags are never going to change how the world perceived the Holocaust. And i'm sorry. But grow the fuck up.
Don't get me wrong, a part of me is glad he rid the world of a decent amount of jews, but jeez

>>137626294
>Libertarianism is a 99%> anti-white ideology, based on who suffers from its sweeping idiocy
>Then there are Libertarians (uppercase L), who are, in essence, Republicans. These people are the vocal minority who shout the loudest, sort of like the stormfags on /pol/.
Even accounting for whatever the fuck this is supposed to be, this has to be the half a dozenth time you've refuted yourself in the span of ten posts.

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>>137626827
"Whatever the fuck this is supposed to be" is what your grievances are with. Libertarianism (lowercase l) is not anti-white at all, but you apparently do not understand the distinction. Furthermore, thus far I haven't refuted myself once, please elaborate.

I'd like to take a sec to say I can't wait for this thread to hit page 11, so I can archive it as a monument to your sins. Anyways, back to the circlejerk game!

>>137599540
>I was in full agreement until that last sentence.
Free speech means all speech. If someone makes a case for something bad, it should be on display when it gets debunked. If Nazi and neo Nazis are purged, the communist equivalents should be as well. The right does not react nearly as viciously to the symbols of a historically much more deadly alt political alignment. Even Islam should be allowed to be discussed without violent harassment.

>Legitimate movement ruined by a faggot Nazi LARPer.
Cool.

>>137627211
But I posted Libertarianism with an uppercase L

>>137627355
You've only capitalized it just there, and at the beginning of sentences. If you were aware of the differences, you'd have been consistent, as I have.
Backpedal all you'd like, the thread is all here for all to see.

>>137627792
I'm not backpedaling, I'm humouring you. Your initial grievance is supposedly in response to something with which you agree, which is something you've done more than once in this thread.

>>137607866
I don't think Spencer's a shill but I do think he's a terrible leader. The problem is finding someone to replace him so Spencer can go back to what he's actually good at.

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>>137627994
Actually, my initial grievance is still >>137625378
"
>your biggest problem seems to be that you really don't like that I called libertarianism anti-white
You're correct, that's my issue, because it isn't true.
"
And thus far, I've yet to contradict, refute, or even confuse my own words.

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>>137599325
Pretty much.

If say alt-right was status quo (ridiculous I know), then pol would be grinding its sacred cows into hamburger.

Because anything remotely resembling pride in being white is basically pure evil, pol takes it to 11

>>137628394

Your initial grievance isn't with the first exchange? Alright buddy, we've had some fun here but at this point I think it's obvious that you can't be this retarded, and you're trying to "recover" or some shit from this assblasting by trying to take me for a ride. I'll finish by making one last point that I know you'll try to pull some autistic pendantry on, so have fun
Libertarianism is whatever people who go around calling themselves libertarian say it is. There's an obvious majority of libertarians who hold anti-white views. If I say fascism is all about how great homosexuals are, it doesn't make it true, even if I try to make some kind of dichotomy by separating the political party from the ideology and citing some bizarre group of people who call themselves fascists and love homosexuals.
>In the twentieth century, only the Communists accomplished the miracle of keeping white countries poor.
>Libertarians have a way to MAKE them poor.
>It’s called “the free movement of capital, goods, services AND LABOR.”
>Libertarian Wordism and Marxist Wordism, who say that some philosophy of govermment is going to make all the difference and race none, are equally ridiculous and equally destructive.

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>>137629887
I agree, we have had fun here. I'll let you close, with some final words of course:

The initial grievance is the first exchange, as I quoted.
Being anti-white is whatever people who go around accusing people of being anti-white say that means.
I hope you see where that logic goes.
Have a good night, you fucking leaf!

>>137599540
Get fucking dodged commie. Cville filled me with pride and my power level is rising.

>>137599924
Nothing wrong with nazi flags
Nothing wrong with chanting
Nothing wrong with any of Cville

>>137599325
>dark enlightenment
please elaborate

>>137631705
Spencer needs to fuck off

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>>137632114

>>137599325
spencer goes way out of his way to not blame everything on muh jews, does not talk negatively about other races, and always wears a suit

and then retards claim he is a neo nazi "making them look bad"

FUCK YOU PUSSIES

Spencer is doing pretty much the best possible job of making pro white identarianism look serious and good

blame NSM and TWP for role playing, TRS, Vanguard, IE, and spencer are doing nothing wrong (except for trusting police to not collaborate with communists)

I'm so tired of you fucking lying cowards

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>>137632373
I won't be suprized if spencer is a CIA nigger.

>>137633558
We should compile some more of his tweets and archive them. Post more of this stuff if you have it.

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>>137632741
He's a fucking commie.

nazis were SOCIALIST.

Don't even touch with asbestos gloves.

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>>137635356

>>137635356
What the fuck is he saying? Nordics had families at home as well...

>>137610221
The shills can't answer this, because they are SHILLS

>>137602512

Show up here if you are pro-Spencer and alt right.

I'm pretty sure most shills will disappear in the next 2 days though.

We had a similar influx during the election where every 2nd thread was counter-signaling with "Drumpf will not win" or "I'm with her". Then he won.

>>137636542
Spencer hates ethno-nationalism.
He doesn't believes in concepts of nationalism like british, german, french, polish etc.
He as any other burger believes all are the same... they all Huwhite.
He wants a unified white state because in his opinion all european cultures are the same.

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>>137599540
lmfao how is this bait still this successfull

>>137599325
name one good thing richard spencer has done? hes constantly bad optics. the media defined everyone who supported trump as alt right, he was named leader of the alt right out of nowhere and immediately said hail trump and gave a roman salute. he is clearly a fed

>>137637310
so a white globalist in a sense?sorry if that sounds dumb i just am not too familiar with his stance.

>>137599540
the bait...the bait.....the bait is on fire.....

>>137599325
Fuck Dickie Spencer. He's one step above a literal retard

>>137639071
It's basically it.
He doesn't provide any plan or how we can achieve it... only larp...

>if you don't like Richard

You sound like his fucking mom.

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>>137610221
This chart has been going around.

https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/william-regnery-richard-spencer-donald-trump/
The Hungarian state thought a event he was going to be at was a CIA-op. And Spencer is now banned from multiple European countries.

>>137639533
oh more alt-lite masturbation then.is he worth reading up on?even if only for a laugh?

>>137639848
If you can take all the long cringy monologues.

>>137640318
i'll pass

>>137599325
they are nazis it simpel you dont need to invent new words.

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>>137599325
Pretty sad that this guy does a better job of defending richard than the retards who think richard is a plant working for jews

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itt 4chpilled assmad henfighting numincy fagut cuckguzzling mommy-grasping larpslurping weepy diaper-wearing cumloads of cowardice that oughta lurk moar >>124205675 >>132533011

>>137640609
youre drooling m8