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Guys, drop the Nazi shit, take the American flag.
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my grandfather would've fucking flamethrowered those faggot nazis at Charlottesville like he did during ww2
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Blind worship of the state is unamerican.
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>>137581811

Leaf, all I wear is the stars & bars
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>>137582019
yet you post with Old Glory

sorry for your 1865 loss, truly

get in line with the rest of your country, citizen
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>>137581811
We need to do this.
If we fly the American flag they can't yell or scream at us for hate symbols. If we fly something like the Confederate or Nazi flags they have negative connotation with the general public, but flying Old Glory will only associate us closer to the US. And ANTFIA / Leftists will be driven away.
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>>137582009
I'm only referring to the optics. This natsoc imagery will NEVER catch on. If you push it hard enough, it will be just as effective.
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>>137581811
> Nazi shit is bad
Ok
> take the American flag
Fuck man, that's actually worse
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>>137581811
The events of the last few days should be a wakeup call to the nazi larper shills here that they're not welcome. They're counter-productive to our Trump movement. They cause nothing but problems.
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Take the American flag and defend traditional American values. I am a true counter revolutionary in every sense of the word except for equality of the races. That I believe in. But we need to get back to a few things that worked as a binding mechanism across the country: faith community, family, obedience to law and value in education. Be proud to stand in opposition to the "brave new world" liberals and leftist advocate for. We can stand against socialist policies and globalist agendas without the virtue signaling, race baiting or nazi larping. Just be and act in a traditional american way and the value in that will win out.
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>>137582541
You sound like a jew.
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Those guys are retards. I symphathize, of course, but it would have so much better effect on the public to watch antifa niggers beat up some guys wearing stars&stripes. Lack of self-awareness.
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>>137581811
real Americans fight commies and nazis
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>>137582390
Lets be perfectly honest here, Antifa won't care what flag it is. They've been burning any American Flag they capture, but it does go to show them as extreme.

To them, the American Flag is still a hate symbol.
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>>137581811
LARPers don't like winning anon. That means the game is over and the consequences are real/permanent. The USA as founded as a pro white country but nobody remembers that anymore.
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>>137582390
Use leafland as an example: the left have "captured our flag", to be patriotic is to be part of the degeneracy. Right now you'll notice lots of lefties using the WW2 imagery of "we use to punch nazis". That is them trying to take the flag from you.
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>>137581811
hell even the Gadsden flag is more acceptable
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>>137582788
Its not just the trump movement, its the entire country we're talking. They cant defend burning the American flag, and isn't that what you're fighting for, your land?
>>137582853
how so?
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You should be proud to be able to use and present your "regular" flag anytime you want. So use that opportunity and the media will show the public how anarchists and commies are beating patriots.

Here in Germany showing the fucking regular German flag is shunned, outside of events like soccer games n stuff because everybody is scared to be called a nazi by his neighbors.
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>>137583194
Ideologically, yes. But the American flag is visually impenetrable armor. Why not take the better weapon into battle?
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>>137583894
why not both?
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>>137581811
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>>137583690
And in Canada it means you're a homo loving trudeau refugee cuck-lord. That's why I made this thread, as a warning to Americans. Seeing them use WW2 pictures for their cause really rustles my jimmies.
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>>137581811

No, fuck the USA.

The american flag is just as much a symbol of judaism as the hammer and sickel.
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Do any of the Vanguard America or Identity Evropa guys fly nazi flags?
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>>137584106
Both are cool, but my point is they are stealing the one that matters most. My social media is just full of lefties posting "patriotic" imagery, claiming they are fighting for the country while they destroy it.
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>>137581811
*cough* *cough*
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>>137584552
No. But they show up in combat gear and hit people with cars.
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>>137584939
i like it.
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>>137584746
we could fly the Betsy Ross flag and claim we are protecting the foundation of our country
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k
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Guys its not funny anymore.
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>>137581811
I'm with you.
I'm with American
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>>137585303
How do you survive 3 extermination camps?
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>>137582853
You sound like a fucking moron.
Really.
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>>137582880
Fuck yeah
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>>137581811
The German Nazi flag was a flag of a foreign power that had the goal of rising to world domination. Like, who has the traditional right to continue using it? Why is nobody using the Japanese Imperial navy flag at protests?
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>>137585303
yeah so can communism

and guess which one is supported by the media and parts of the government
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>>137585523
Being really, really good at holding your breath. Or something.
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>>137584939
>>137585174
Why do you want to waste effort just to resurrect flags with already negative imagery?
Make the flag that's in every household one the left wants to distance themselves with.
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>>137584106
You can't serve two masters
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>>137585523

Because they were detention centers, not extermination camps.

The gas chambers were literally built by the Russians after they took them over; even the Jewish museum heads acknowledge this.
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>>137585608
cause their navy was shit.
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>>137581811
Fuck that kike flag
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>>137585696
The Betsy Ross has no negative connotations.

>>137585768
the Gadsden flag is an American flag
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>>137581811
>mfw stormfags actually thought that a New York centrist was going to initiate DOTR
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cause it triggers the normies. anything outside of their cognitive 'normals' is good for breaking them down. don't represent anything, and represent everything.

If you can't handle an idea, you can't adapt, you will die. Mark my words. Check em.
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>>137585902
My mistakes. I misunderstood. You right.
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>>137585849
biggest battlecruiser ever tho
their ability to produce more of the stuff was low
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lol wtf is everyone so worried about? i got our new flag right here
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>>137585902
what about the genocide of native americans and slavery of africans?
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>>137581811
>>137581879
>>137582676
>>137582541
>>137582390


GOD ALMIGHTY JESUS CHRIST HOLY SPIRIT

GAS THE KIKES
RACE WAR NOW
1488 1776
WORLD WIDE

#America #Freedom #Liberty

Our World. Our Time. Our Future.

A Holy American Empire to rule the world for 1000 years.

America, the Heartland. Jesus Country. Western Nations as satellite states. Maintaining individuality and autonomy. Retaining history. Australians stay Australian, but with American Freedoms and Liberties. British stay British, the French, French, etc.

Full Freedom and Liberty.

The biggest baddest empire this humanity has ever seen. Waiting for Jesus Christ to save us. With Holy Spirits help. God protects us from Jewry and any form of oppression.

This is so the European(white) male can live well. That's all its about. So we can start families and continue the works of our Father.

Retain our history, thousands of years in the making. A global effort by the commoner. For our greater good. We craft our future.

Remove Kike. Remove Foreigner.

One last War. Our World Forever After

S H A D I L A Y ~ B R O T H E R S
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>>137582788
>Trump Movement
Fuck off faggot, this is not your board, no one asked you to come here from The_Donald, go back there if you want to command a board.

National Socialists are absolutely welcome, just don't sperg out and reveal your power level to the whole country like fucking retards. There's a reason why the JQ is the final redpill, because it takes time to work up to. The only flag we need is the American flag. Some shitty OC larping flag isn't going to sway the general public to our side. The stars and stripes are the flag of our nation and would do the best in terms of winning public support. Anyone caught hating on and beating patriots will only cause more un-aligned middle Americans to be swayed to our side. Those are the people we are trying to sway. The people who hate America are too far gone to consider, but if we're banking on winning the culture war, we need to win over the people sick of defeatism and sick of anti-Americans. At least in the public sphere. I love the nazi and hitler shit, but we need to keep it ON THIS BOARD AND OUT OF THE PUBLIC. We will will never win public support with it. Fly American symbols. The Gadsden flag. The Confederate flag. The 13 colonies flag. But above all, fly the American flag.
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>>137586335
Oh no, bad things happened in the past!
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>>137585902
It looks "scary", confederate. Its connections to being from past America reminds people of how "horrible" the past was.
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>>137586465
so lie
>>137586589
>ww2 is today
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>>137581879
You have to be over 18 to post here, Anon.
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>>137586465
Agreement with all except flying the Confederate flag. Its moronic and bad optics. Might as well dress up in a white robe and hood if you're going to wave that damn flag.
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Communists have more power, influence, and control than any Nazi in this country.

Down with the commies.
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>>137585303
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>>137586335
I lived in your country for a few years, while it was communist.

You're repeating their lines. Were/are you one of Them?
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>>137586707
>ww2
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I despise this satanic country

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zpge1e6GWoE
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>>137586732
If his grandfather was old enough to fight in WWII chances are he's a lot older than 18
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>>137582880
damn straight
if legit nazis or commies- authoritarian socialists of any kind, really- are marching through my neighborhood, are leaving in 50+ stitches if they don't leave volitionally
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>>137586676
>>137586707
UnAmerican cucks who think they know my nation? Fuck off. Most Americans identify with the American flag, but any of the flags of our past would be welcomed. The way to succeed is to expand the sphere. The American flag should take center stage, but having the Confederate/Gadsden flags wouldn't detract from our goals. Any flag that is not explicitly American is missing the point.
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>>137581879
As any American should. These race baiting NAZIs and ANTIFA/BLM larpers are one in the same. They are only here to divide us. Don't let them win. Unity, and respect for all race, or Creed, or gender is the only way the Trump movement will win. The hate will get us no where. Martin Luther King was a patriot, and should be revered by everyone. BLM only shits on his grave.
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>>137586268
RIP Murdoch
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>>137587003
actually, lenin never died, they just hooked his brain up to a computer
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>>137581811
>American flag
And what should I do with this thing?
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>>137581811
Absolutely, the stars and bars is what we're fighting for now. you can LARP about nazi's later after we save this god damn country.
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>>137581811
I don't know why you fuckers even flew the Nazi flag in the first place. Flying the US flag would have been a better idea no matter what.
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>>137586465
This, up here when I wear full American flag t-shirts I get nu-males walking up to me making remarks and get up in my face all flustered saying "you're in Canada bud!" etc. They hate it. That's how effective it can be.
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>>137587844
wow, you really triggered those libtards XD
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>>137587173
Chill fag, I'm only saying the natsoc shit has to go and the left is stealing the flag.
And if you think the confederate flag could fly in most states, you don't know your country that well.
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>>137581811
> Guys, drop the Nazi shit, take the American flag.
This for the burgers.
I take Estonian flag.
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>>137588122
It's so easy, they literally can't
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>>137588431
Oh, did I offend a little snowflake? Fuck off leaf, rake yourself. The only people who give a fuck about the Confederate flags are lefties. Patriotic Americans don't give a fuck by and large. All I am saying is that if the focal point is the American flag and the Confederate flag is only in the side wings, it wouldn't cause outrage among the people we are actually appealing to. Any faggot liberal who has a problem with it is not someone we are going to sway or attract anyway. May as well appeal to the 'flyover' states and conservative southerners. Either way, placing the American flag above all other flags is all that is necessary. And keeping LARPing nonAmerican flags out.
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>>137589070
The Left has rejected the south and southern pride. These people feel disenfranchised. Having the Confederate flag shows that we don't give a fuck about PC and that we are welcoming those people. It would be doubly effective to fly it alongside other flags of American history like the Gadsden flag and some of the earlier versions of our flag. It shows that while we accept those disenfranchised patriots, we are still all united under the American flag. Again, the American flag should take center stage and should be bigger than all other flags present.
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>>137589070
Walk out of your basement with one of your little confederate flags, I dare you.
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>>137581811
>Guys,
They're kids. It's not a "phase" mom!
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Agree. Enough of acting the like the opposition already.
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>>137588605
All good mate, take the flag that represents your country and people.
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>>137589702

people do it all the time what are you talking about canacuck
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>>137581811
Leaf gets it
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There were a lot of American flags at Charlottesville.

Another thing, go fuck yourself how about you do what you think will work and show us the way instead of being an armchair Führer?
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>>137582853
He has a point, faggots like you aren't helping
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Only adopt the American flag if you legitimately ARE NOT a National Socialist or Antifa. Better yet just knock this shit off, both of your groups.
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>>137589702
>Implying I haven't
Fuck off leaf, its not your country. You see headlines and news stories, you don't interact with the common American. Your own country is cucked beyond measure, so I don't doubt that you can't fly it. The north is like one of the only blue parts of America, you'd bring in a lot more southerns with it than you would drive away from our cause. We aren't ever going to appeal to dems or progressives.
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>>137581811

I'll take the Florida Flag thank you.
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>>137581811
Anyone who unironically believes LARPing as Nazis or Confederates helps our movement is either controlled opposition or terminally retarded.
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>>137590439
>our movement
which movement is that?
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>>137590588
MAGA
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>>137581811
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>>137581811
make the american flag racist again
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>>137582009
It's not worship to co-opt something. It's the triumph of the will. Think Neo jumping into Smith.
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>>137586844
heritage not hate, anon. If you're from the south, it means a whole lot more than the KKK. I know the origins of the flag lie in a defeated side from the civil war. I know the last group that ppl can be racist toward and still be politically correct are working class, southern whites (ie: rednecks) but shitting on that flag is basically shitting on that demographic. The left and elitists in America absolutely despises that group; I would advise you not on their side.
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>>137581811

Lol at this fucking board
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All I know is that I'm tired of seeing Richard Spencer's face.
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>>137589702
I drove through New England one time and saw confederate flags everywhere. Fuck you spergs going on about?
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>>137583065
>muh huggy flag
>muh worried harrumph face
What a fucking weak faggot. I wish he'd close the garage door and fall asleep huffing exhaust fumes.
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>>137590647
trump already won though
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>>137585902
You can make them look at the stars and stripes and hate it the way they hate the swastika. You can wave it proudly in their faces and not lose your job.

Woudln't that feel good?
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>>137590439
Anyone who thinks that /pol/ is a movement is terminally retarded. /pol/ is just here to see the world burn. Personally, I support any side that would cause violence that I can safely observe from my cozy little commieblock apartment.
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>>137590423
Keep it, your state's a nigger and spic-infested hellhole.
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>>137590393
lmao based magapede setting the record straight. I'm sure we'll reverse the west's demographic suicide with some good old-fashioned debate.
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>>137589702
I was just in public recently with this shirt on. Still safe and sound. What was your point?
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>>137581811
This is actually a very good idea, not to mention US of old was quite racist.
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>>137582788
I think Nazis are welcome, maybe even core. But they are not welcome to saddle real life events with their symbology baggage. Keep that shit online and larp all you want. Get people with jobs marching with you.
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>>137591054

That would be South Florida. South of Kissimmee.

South Florida =/= Florida. More like Cuba. South Florida needs a tidal wave by Poseidon.
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>>137591187
It obvious you're very handsome. Pretty bitches get away with anything
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>>137591181
I dislike reddit. I honestly think both sides are very small. I'm just tired of them stirring up shit. It's getting real old real quick.
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>>137591414
Anon, I . . .
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>>137591520
Nobody's stirring up anything. Both sides are just a reaction to this diseased country and its death spiral.
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>>137591365
WE JEWS NOW BOYS; the only way to fight the jew is to be a jew. Relegate Hitler to board posting only.
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>>137590982
>Woudln't that feel good?
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Somehow I'm enjoying all this self inflicted destruction of the US 10000 miles away.

I knew /pol/ was full of young college kids. I just didn't know they would actually leave their house for a LARPING event.
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>>137582788
The Trump movement is a joke. National Socialism is more than some political ideology. National Socialism is a spiritual movement and if you can't understand that than you are not going to be able to help this country or the white race.
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>>137591668
All it needs is a little reform and solid leadership. We don't need fringe wacko groups coming out of the woodwork with retarded ideas that already have already failed time and time again.
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>>137591187
>>137589702

Leafs absolutely BTFO. Spit-roasted paki style
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>>137581811
Good Advice, Nothing triggers Antifa more than the US Flag
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>>137592575
>A little reform
"A little reform" isn't going to propel America back to being more than 90% white. It's not going to cleanse our sick culture of pornography, hedonism, nihilism, and negro worship. It's not going to invigorate the souls of the millions of shiftless, purposeless young men.

You cannot put your trust in Democracy to sort matters out when it is Democracy to blame for where we are today.
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>>137592451
Look, I am basically a National Socialist myself, I understand the appeal and utility of it, but the masses do not. Remember that the goyim are still trained to react in a specific way to seeing Nazis. There is a reason why Nazis/the JQ are the final redpills; it takes a while to build up to such things. We can't treat the broad public like /pol/. Continue to show up and support rallies, but keep your power level hidden. Don't discredit the cause you'd like to support. You can't expect a major shift toward the right wing, it has to happen incrementally. The further right America becomes, the more sympathetic they'd be to NatSoc. Just don't expect them to welcome you with open arms outright.
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>>137593115
You'll be surprised what a positive example can do.
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>>137581811
Guys, stop joining mass movements and concentrate on improving yourselves and cultivating personal excellence.
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>>137593115
A return to traditionalism might though

>>137593041
kek
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If they started flying the pride flag, would Antifa fly that too.
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>>137593220
Get them agreeing with you and then they look up one day and realize shit, they're actually Nazis too.
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>>137581811
Second this. The American flag can become the ultimate symbol of white supremacy.
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>>137592575
nah, all of our governments are on board for the borderless world scheme. even trump is just a pressure valve to reduce stress on the system, hes still going through with their plan like everyone else. anything we do is just for fun at this point, because all those with power want this new world without nations where the whole planet is open to exploitation and the new global underclass can be used however they want
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>>137582880
/thread
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>>137593724
There's only one way to make migration issues relevants.
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>>137581811
This is a great point.

The right should be completely equated to the American flag. When the left starts burning American flags in public it will push people to our side. You'll never convince american normies that spitting on and burning the flag is acceptable. The optics and american pride culture is too ingrained and strong.
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>>137581811
There was 1 retard with the nazi flag at the rally with about a thousand right wingers.

Everybody knows what you are saying, you're not going to reach the 1 larping autist with posts like this, assuming he wasn't a plant to begin with.
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>>137593724
That's not a bright picture you're painting there. They do have to answer to their people though. Hope you're not right. From now on whether a politician is a globalist or not will be priority number one for me at least and hopefully for the majority of others as well.
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>>137582880

they will call you a nazi anyway
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>>137593484
The story of /pol/
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>>137594667
When you fight commies they call you a nazi
When you fight nazis they call you a jew
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>>137581879
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Heh heh heh.

Nope.

We will infiltrate and we will wave flags and we will toss bricks and you will either retreat back to your basements, or be demonized and crushed.

I hope you choose the second option.
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>>137593724
How are things going in your country politically? Their pushing the same things there?
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the nazi flag is our flag forever, we won't abandon it to "appeal to normies" lmao desu
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>>137594786
most nutritious pasta
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>>137581811
The people who are openly labeling themselves "nazis" need to understand normies literally think nazi just means someone who wants to rule the world and kill anyone who doesn't have blond hair and blue eyes. Yes, it's absurdly wrong but BABY STEPS people. You're parading yourselves as nazis without considering these people have only been eating blue pills their entire lives. It's so counter productive. Just stay home if you can't help yourself.
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>>137581811
Ah yes, the flag of the proud tools of Israel.
Can't wait for your country to implode in the fires of the coming civil war.
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>>137595268
Not everyone is a nazi who wont fight back. Try that on me I dont give a flying fuck ill crush you
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>>137589702
>Walk out of your basement with one of your little confederate flags, I dare you.

Are you stupid or something? You clearly know nothing of the south you retarded maplenigger. Go cut down a spruce and fuck a moose or whatever it is you snowcoons do, stop talking about matters you know absolutely nothing about.
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>>137584939
Amazon just sent you a cease & desist
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>>137581811
I wish I could fine my father's "Come and Take It" Flag we used in marches, but we're too busy right now for those sorts of things. Perhaps if they try to threaten Texan cities, I'll rise again.
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>>137594667

This. It is a no win situation because the people we are fighting don't want to American. They want the destruction of the constitution and everything it stands for.
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>>137596333

*want to be
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>>137592451
>The Trump movement is a joke.
>National Socialism is a much bigger deal
You do realize that the guys on Unite the Right were absolutely riding on Trump's coattails right? That David Duke was and is blatantly legitimizing himself by trying to tie himself to Trump? Richard Spencer seemed to be doing the same as Duke, albeit with a little tack and finesse. When your NatSoc movement can pack an auditoriums consecutively like campaign era Trump (not holding you to President era Trump standards), then I will concede your point but you are a very long way from that rn.
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>>137595330
Have fun winning the hearts and minds of the people.
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>>137581811
The leaf is right
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>>137581811
Fuck off, leaf. Quit trying your stupid 'divide and conquer' strategies. This board ain't called 'politically incorrect' for nothin; and you can be sure we're gonna be politically incorrect.
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>>137595330
if you want your ideas to be taken seriously by somebody who doesn't agree with the idea of another holocaust, you'll have to change the flag, buddy.

>>137596781
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>>137595330
The problem with nazi's is they already boiled over when they should have continued with a gradual heating up.

That flag was not ready to be flown openly, is what I am getting at. All that happened to you was a massive setback and PR nightmare.
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>>137596333
Those people don't represent all of America. The whole point is to win over the centrists and conservatives that are sick of anti American bullshit. We arent trying to win over marxists. The fact that they will still call us nazis is entirely the point. Let them shit on the American flag and Americans will rally against them.
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>>137597627

Perhaps. I know Antifa antics are pissing off more of the centrist Americans more and more.
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>>137581811
Agree. Besides, the US flag triggers BLM/Anitfa/SJW dorks just as much as the swastika and you get the benefit of not alienating the huge conservative swath of this country who still considers Nazis to be our foreign enemies.
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>>137581811
Lets get this clear. You WILL have to punch a nazi if you dont want the flag their.
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>>137587372
Stars and bars is the confederate flag
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>>137588605
Estonians are bros
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>>137590393
Fuck both sides. We need a 3rd faction.
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>>137587206
What makes you think we shouldn't be divided?
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>>137581811
>Goys
*Fixed that for you, Schlomo.
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>>137591370
I couldn't agree more. But kissimmee itself is pretty torn. kissimmee is basically fucking Puerto Rico. But St. Cloud you still have a lot of cattle pasture and pretty decent people. Besides your basic poor white trash who love opioids. But down old Canoe Creek Road there's some pretty wealthy fuckers
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>>137582009
This. 1776 not 1488 ok. Limit the state. Return to our Judeo Christian values and enlightenment ideals.
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>>137581879
Glad my grandpa killed the fucking nips if he fought the Germans I'd be very conflicted
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>>137586407
Why don't you leave america and go back to europe?

America is rightfully native land
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>>137582808
We need to return to some Jeffersonian ideals.
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>>137581811
Got nothing against nazis but I agree. We need to represent ourselves, not try to be someone else.
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>>137596255
Wouldn't want anymore accidental redpills from the show.
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>>137582853
I'm starting to think the people who make "you sound like a jew" comments are themselves jews trying to sabotage white nationism by forcing it to be as extreme as possible.
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>>137581811
call it something else, like "universal nationalism"
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>>137600936
The jewing is pretty deep.
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>>137589702
Lad I live in Texas no one would even bat an eye if they saw a confederate flag.

Hell my German teacher back in high school drove by a house flying the Nazi flag.
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nazis are socialists
nazis want gibs
nazis actually are how they accuse blacks of being
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>>137601102
honestly we gotta put the more obscure stuff like DA JOOS aside temporarily to win over hearts and minds. If you talk about race and crime and shit, that's waaay likelier to strike a chord with white people.
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>>137595330
You fucking idiot, do you realize the general populace is predominantly normie? OF COURSE we have to appeal to them. Why are all Nazis on the lower end of the IQ distribution? Makes you wonder...
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>>137601761
This.

What we really need is a nationalist movement (without the socialism) to unite the people left and right under the american flag and american prosperity
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>>137589702
I fly two at my house. One by the road next to my mailbox and the other on the front of the house.
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>>137600530
arent there like 3 of you left?
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>>137581879
>my grandfather would've fucking flamethrowered those faggot nazis at Charlottesville like he did during ww2
You grandfather is a faggit cuck traitor. My granfather is dead. He spendt 18 month in a german pov camp, he watched all his friend die during a brief 72 hour of fighting. He confessed on his deathbed that Hitler was right. He told me about scum like your grandfather. Rapist, stolen valor, dishonor scum of the earth. You grandfather is going to the great krematorium in the sky and you are going with him
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>>137581879
https://youtu.be/uRf8WfuKkEc
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The flag of world jewry and degeneracy
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>>137581811

This.

The American flag takes power away from the left. If they try to talk shit about the flag, then they will come off as un-American. By flying a nazi flag, you are giving everyone a reason to hate and dismiss you regardless of how reasonable your views sound.
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