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Would you accept communism if it was also white ethnostate?

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>>137551159
Maybe if it actually worked the way they said it would, and not devolve into a socialist police state where shortages are rampant.
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>>137551159
Better dead than red.
Always.
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>>137551159
Fuck no. I don't support white ethnostates regardless. Full freedom of movement and labor are necessary for a maximally efficient free market./
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>>137551354
spbp
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>>137551396
>le classical liberal face.jpg
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Sure, we're eerily close to commie economics anyway
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>>137551446
>le full of vodka and communism face
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>>137551159
Ideally wouldn't have to make that choice, but if it were a choice between that and multikult (white genocide), then how could I say no?
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No. Never. The only way I'd accept a system like communism is if it was a 30 person tribe.
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>would you accept a jewish invention

I'll stop you right there.

No

Communism was made by a jew, and is jewish in essence. It is putrid pure venom. It doesn't matter if it's a "white" ethnostate, because the core principals and values being established are poisonous.
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>>137551159
Better dead than red.
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>>137552768
this. they are called Communes for a reason.
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No. Commies needs to be eradicated from this earth.
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>>137551159
>>137551159
>Would you accept communism if it was also white ethnostate?
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>>137551159
i mean, it didn't seem to work so good for you guys. or are you not white enough?
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>>137551159
We'll never accept commie scum
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>>137551159
I would never wish that on my people. I might accept communism if we made Africa do it haha
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>>137551159
Yes. I would pick communist Warsaw, Belgrade, Prague each time over enriched, degenerate (and socialist anyhow) London, Berlin and Paris
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>>137551159
Only if it meant no more Russians here.
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>>137551159
USSR was pretty much a white ethnostate if you consider slavs and churkas to be white.
I don't.
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>>137551159
White or not, communism will never work.
So no, better dead than red.
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nominalism itt
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>>137553837
>>137554103
>USSR
>literally hundreds of ethnicities
>ethnostate
Burger education.
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>>137551159
The Polish People's Republic and the Hungarian People's Republic were both white Commie ethno-states and they still sucked balls.
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nice try, but commes don't do ethnostates
whites were the ethnicity that suffered the most in the east bloc and usually at the hands of some subhuman chekist leader
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>>137551159
Yes, I don't need to spread socialist ideologies with the help of the state's pet niggers/brown races.
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>>137551159
Better dead than red
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>>137554103
It was only 70% East Slavic.
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>>137554103
this is possibly the most wrong you can be about any given topic
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>>137551159
I would gladly accept it, as communism is the ideology that killed more communists in the history of mankind.
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>>137551159
You think these "people" want a white ethnostate?
Lol those already exist so why aren't they there, why aren't they with you in russia?

Because what they want is privilege, they want systemic racism to keep anyone else from rising up the ranks. They want to have their cake and eat it too, or should I say baby bottle. Ask yourself, why is it that they hate blacks and everyone else of color but they won't move to europe? To scandinavia? Because they'll be treated like white trash that's why. Not only will they be less white but they won't get an easy job either. The privileges they have with this "good ol boy" system here will vanish.

This is their way of throwing a tantrum. It's faggots like these who were purged during your revolution.
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>>137551354
This.
>>137551159
Fuck off faggot
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I would support a more socialist white ethno state. If someone fails its on them or charity to pick up the slack. No screaming racism or any other garbage.
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>>137555737

No you wouldn't. Look at us, socialism will never work faggot.
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Communism doesn't work even in a group of 3 people
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Not possible.

The whole "equality" horseshit will eventually seep into some sap woman's minds and she'll wonder why spics chinks and niggers aren't in on their socialist "paradise" and she'll drag along every other woman and cucked beta male she can and you're back to square one of Sweden
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>>137551159
Never.
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>>137553509
Said the socialist
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>>137551159
No. Socialism is always cancer
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No, but I support more regulations on capitalism and higher degrees of redistribution. I don't want my country turning into another cookie-cutter metropolis that is indiscernible from every other major city.
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>>137551159
Nope, tried it, didn't work
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>>137551159
Do I want to become (((their))) slave in a white state? No
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>>137555374
No, trust me. We don't want to oppress. We don't want anything from you. We don't hate you. We just don't want to think about you, at all. We also want to stop paying for you.
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>>137551354

And you don`t look like commie, so
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>>137554484

so as Polish and Hungarian non-people`s republics
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We tried that in the early 1900's and dind't go well.
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>>137558534
Wait, didn't read the white ethnostate thing. Still no, gommunism & co. will always fuck your shit up really bad.
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Yes, and if it gave me the opportunity to compete with my fellow citizens and if it actually produced a better society than a capitalistic society
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>>137551159
yugoslavia was a white ethnostate, the ethnicities being slovenian, serbian, croatian, just take a look how that ended.
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>>137551159
Communism is inherently Jewish. Just like rabbinical Judaism communism seeks to control every aspect in a persons life. A society can not function based on external control. The more external control you have the greater th chaos it will produce. To have a ordered society you need to eventually do away with external rulers. Each individual must be educated to think and act right, everyone must rule themselves. That is the only way you get order.
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>>137551159
no even in white communism it is still communism, its a shit system that causes some of the worst regimes in history
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>>137551353
unfortunately, communism will never work the way they say it will
>free stuff
>no reason to work hard
>???
>shortage
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>>137559063
eastern europe
>white
xD
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>>137553632
underrated post from sweden of all places
or is it swedistan by now?
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>>137559749
hey jammal, are you really the one to talk?
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>>137551396
Full freedom of conflict and violence because you let different kinds live in the same place.

How that is going to help your market?
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>>137551159
Yes.
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That's like asking: Would you accept nationalsocialism if it was multikulti and fiki-fiki?
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>>137559865
Explain Singapore, multicultural, multi-religious, safe and successful.
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>>137559114
Getting a bit tired of these attempts to paint everything but modern, Western hyper-individualism as Judaic when it is itself extremely so.
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>>137551159
Communism in Eastern Europe was mostly white ethnostates, and it was still garbage. It doesn't work, regardless of race.
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>>137551159
Better dead than red
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>>137555036
hes right you know
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>>137551159
No but having a homogeneous community would improve social cohesion.
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Doesn't matter if I accept it.
Nature wouldn't
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>>137553124
Came here to post this. Thanks, burgerbro.
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No.
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>>137557877
the serb is correct here
thats why i cannot be a nazi
because national socialism is still socialism
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>>137559957

No welfare state.
The developed western world need money for them babyboomers programs, wouldn't work.
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>>137560083
am i the only one that thinks his country sounds like a name of a rock/metal band?
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>>137551159

E.Europe was mostly a white ethnostate under the commie regime, looks where it is now.

Shills everywhere, maybe you should learn about ur NKVD advisors also about the purges that happened under the USSR regime, also while you're at it read about Holodomor.
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Communism has been tried in dozens of country, including smaller ethnostates, and every single one of them failed hard.

Yeah sure, there were nicer things to look at, it might be less degenerate but so was the West back then. The Americans were way less degenerate in the 50s than today. And anyway, if communism is bound to happen soon somewhere in the West, it will be made possible thanks to maximum degenerates. It won't be the same as the old school one (which was shit enough), in fact it will be a worse brand of communism. That's all.
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>>137559920
>new zealand
>commie
I FUCKING KNEW IT
stay on your shitty earthquake prone, sheep filled quarantine zone you sheepfucker
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>>137560012
Was the question about western "hyper-individualism"? Why are you engaging in whataboutism, a common commie/jew tactic? The only thing that I addressed, beyond communism, was the need for people to be rulers of their own life and the fault in trying to enforce rules from an external source.

Maybe you are new here and if that is the case you should give the following lecture a listen. Its a good intro into occult knowledge and the importance of thinking and acting in a correct way. Not letting the state or the rabbi determine what is right/wrong and placing the laws of man above the laws of nature/god
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIEemKcy-4E
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>>137551159
>communism
>white ethnostate
Oxymoron.
Tenets of communistic religion:
1. All people are born equal. FACT.
2. Their life is shaped only by society they live in. FACT.

Without these tenets communism becomes fascism.
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>>137554367
The American definition of white would probably include most ethnicities in the USSR except the Central Asians and native Siberians
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Communism's end goal is world domination, that's why it's pushed so hard by the jews and why "white communism" is impossible. The Soviet Union in it's early days tried to be a multicultural paradise but abandoned the practice once they realized how shit non-whites are at civilization and following people who aren't the same coat of shit as themselves. That's when they switched to full blown Russification, which yielded far better results as a united mass of people is capable of far more than a divided mass of shit.
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>>137559957
>no welfare
>actual punishments for crimes, not this (((rehabilitation))) approach like my govt
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>>137553632
Good luck eradicating the 2 or 3 commies left on this planet.
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>>137560705
should we tell him?
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>>137560083
This is a prime example of the "remove kebab" fallacy. Society will always find a way to create enemies from the inside. If the division cannot be done by race anymore, it can still be by wealth, education, religion, political orientation, tribe, etc...

>>137560334
Top kek.

A christian metal band then.
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>>137560547
>the need for people to be rulers of their own life and the fault in trying to enforce rules from an external source.
That's exactly what I'm talking about. Keep being convinced that you're fighting the Jew by rejecting authority thougg if you like; I don't care, I only hope I'm there to say I told you so when the realisation hits you that you've been played all along.
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>>137552115
An-Caps will hang.
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>>137559957
t. Clueless
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>>137559957
Singapore might look good, but it is the same as USA. Looks good on outside, even better than US, while inside there are conflicts.

Nowhere there are peaceful relations for long if two or more kinds of people are involved.

Look how many years they stayed with Malaysia. Both multicultural, why split?

Now explain many places somewhere else like the Baltic countries where the Russian and Ukrainian minorities commit significantly more crime.
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>>137551159
no. why is communism even a debatable subject?

communism assumes equality, which is a lie. do you like living your life being lied to when you know the truth?
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>>137551159
>Start a communist white ethnostate
>Everybody starves and dies
>Jews wins

No thanks
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>>137551159
No, commies get the helicopter.
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>>137551159
every communist society ends in shit, because it is shit. government has to use force and coercion to battle human nature. the political class becomes the gentry, everyone else peasants. everyone is constantly subject to people lying on them to get them sent to gulag slave system, even politicals. when walls have to be built to keep people in, something is amiss. smarten up people communism is off the table as a serious modern option.
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>>137560550
Are you retarded?
The main idea of comunism is that the atate owns everything. This has nothing to do with fascism
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>>137554103
t. Tyrone "Lee" O'Sullivan
25% anglo
25% native american
25% irish
25% nigger
100% degenerate
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>>137551159
At first yes, and then when the Communism bubble pops we can implement something better.
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>>137560618
>That's when they switched to full blown Russification
>t. capitalistic pig who knows about USSR from CNN fake news
Before USSR hohols, belorussians and central again churkas didn't even existed as nations only as tribes. They were artificially created and promoted by system of """national republics""", which, surprise, didn't existed in Russian Empire. Now no surprise that USSR fall apart by the borders drawn by churka Stalin.
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>>137555908
It worked well before you started importing niggers and arabs and dumb libtard commies from ex yu
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>>137559607
>>free stuff
That's not how communism works bro.
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>>137562008
The main idea of communism is labor theory of value. Everything stands on it, necessity of state owned capital comes from this theory. But labor theory of value falls apart without tenet of inherent equality of people.
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>>137551159
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>>137551159
No. I have no idea why there's all this Jew Conspiracy talk around here and yet there are people who want a totalitarian government (Which historically have been rife with corruption).
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>>137560372
Fucking this. Communism is a poison. It is a shiny illusion which promises everything before only delivering pain, suffering and death.

>also, Bezmenov

Really an underrated post. Thank you for sharing REAL redpills in this thread. They are much needed.
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>>137562596
Saved

MUUUH ORTHODOX CHRISTIANITY
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>>137553893
that driver was riding with quads that day.
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>>137551159
If they had low taxes, few regulations and I could get rich there - yes.
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>>137563338
>if it wasn't communism, yes
Nailed it.
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>>137562596
Nicfallacy burger... I too can take poorly done or propagandist statistics and warp them to my ideological benefit.. Let me take some statistics from Detroit,Chicago,California, and I can use them as a blanket to represent all of America.. try again burgher
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>>137551159
>http://syria.liveuamap.com
No. Fuck your communism.
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>>137562330
Anyone ironically using the communist flag should literally kill them selves
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>>137551396
>yes lets destroy the concentration of wealth that breeds more wealth for the rest of thd world

Come on man.
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No, living with Asians is better than starving to death
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>>137563801
>anon
>not using ironically everything
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>>137564376
Wat
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>>137551159
hitler was going tu save u suka ,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1PAO3jgmXY
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>>137551159
communism is for gullible cunts
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>>137551159
there's no better way to declare to the world that you're completely useless human than to support communism
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>>137551159
When the race ceases to exist, there is no possibility of bringing it back. However, any political ideology can gain power again.
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>>137551354
Ok, you will be dead then.
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>>137551159
>white ethnostate
I'll never undestand this meme. Anyway, we've had our fair share of communism and I think that was enough. Granted, it also included the other republics leeching from us so it worked even worse than it could've but in any case, thousands getting murdered so that the Party can secure power, horrible repression and bad economical stagnation are not very appealing.
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>>137563562
Please come suck my dick.

>>137565029
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communism doesn't work. I know it firsthand, because I grew up in east germany. It's only poverty, ugliness and decay everywhere. There was a reason why they needed to build a wall, install selfshot-devices and borderguards with guns in order to keep their people from running away.
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>>137560330
>>137560655
No shit, thanks for proving my point. Race doesn't matter, welfare and inconsistent justice does. Kill all criminals, no matter the race.
>>137561277
What's the price? :^)
>>137561299
t. no argument
>>137561300
They didn't "split", they were conquered by the UK and similar to Hong Kong, realized that liberty-minded capitalism works better than religious or ethnostates.
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>>137551159
If there were no jews sure.
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>>137565434
Not gay you burger... go ask another chuck like yourself to suck your own dick
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>>137551159

Absolutely not you disgusting filthy pinko scum.

I'd rather unironically fill my country with niggers and remain capitalist than become a degenerate loser commie.

Communists are the lowest filth on earth and even non whites when given capitalism will outcompete whites who are commie scum.

Communists are not even humans. You are broken mutants that are pale copies of what makes up a human. You are a fucking chinese knock off of what a human being is you commie piece of shit.
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>>137551159
>C-communism can work if it's white people!!
top kek
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>>137562188
Bretty sure Stalin was against this national republics shit. But ((Lenin)) was in charge back then.
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>>137551159
already tried it, doesn't work.
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>>137551159
no. communists aren't people
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>>137551159
>Would you accept communism if it was also white ethnostate?
You mean nazbol?

Also, USSR was basically a white ethnostate. Was still the shitiest place on earth.

Of course not.
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(((Communism))) for White People is National Socialism. And unlike (((Communism))) it actually worked.
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>>137568714
You know that churka Stalin ruled 29 years after Lenin's death and could do whatever he pleased, right?
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>>137551159
No, because it would always end up being a corporation and bank owned state due because the corporations and banks will finance the revolution. And thus it will never deliver on its promises.
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Most communist countries, most countries even, are ethnostates. Or at least did not allow large scale population-changing immigration to happen with few exceptions. Any circumstance that does not include a flood of culturally very different (in this case opposing) group(s) is better than one which does.
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>>137551396
> I don't support white ethnostates regardless.

Typical jew. You realize that the IQ gap is still 15 between blacks and whites yes?
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>>137569167
>(((white ethnostate.)))
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>>137570732
Cont.

What we are really arguing is if America and Europe should be exceptions to this norm.
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dumb people are my niggers . commies are morons and therefore niggers. if you have less than 120IQ you are basically fodder in my mind. /Pol/ forgets that before machine learning systems mass murders dumb, uneducated, fat/weak and poor people. race will not be important . weakness of any form wouldn't be permitted in the future genius ethnostate .
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>>137551159
We both had it for 45 years and it didn't work. Utopic ideologies were never ment to exist IRL.
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>>137551159
If it would be white ethnostate, it would be a republic.
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>>137555374
that's the dumbest post ive read in a while
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>>137569167
> USSR was basically a white ethnostate
You hardly can be more wrong than this.
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>>137551159
never
it simply doesn't work unless you're happy to still your hunger on stomac acid
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I don't mind dying in a gulag because my executioner is a white man.
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>>137551159
Even bl*ck wom*n are turning their backs on communism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx2hEc7Dlcg


it's over. your dream is dead.
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>>137570732
>Or at least did not allow large scale population-changing immigration to happen with few exceptions.
USSR creation was such one time country size immigration.
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>>137553632
Fy fan vad jag älskar moderaterna! Mer lågavlönade städerskor och snickare som arbetar svart från östereuropa

tjäna fett med cash

JAAA
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>>137551353
The problem is that communism inevitable leads to scarcity as a corrupted leadership seizes power to enrich themselves

Therefore, communism will only work if you have:
-a replicator or other magical post-scarcity machine
-a benevolent AI dictator to prevent centralized power from being corrupted and self-enriching

Both of these are well beyond our current technological means, and thus so is successful communism.
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Everyone ITT : Go read a fucking book.
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>>137551159
rather have 90% black and 10% white and capitalism than 100% white and zero percent democracy and freedom.
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>>137551159
Isn't it a bit odd that op's ideal portrayl of communism is a city square (an intersection, which, ostensibly should be busy with trade and business) merely contains four people, one car, two old trucks and a random pram?

how are people supposed to get the goods and services they require when nothing is moving?
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>>137553124
man you can't use monetarism or the banking system because they're also invented by de JOOOS
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>>137570890
Fake quote
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>>137563078
>underrated post

HOLY SHIT

/pol/-tards do nothing but spam the capitalist multiculturist shill Bezmenov all day you delusional fuck
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>>137554588
*revisionism intensifies*
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>>137551159
No. Communism is the antithesis of what this country was built on. The mainstream media would disagree, but they're trying to get the right killed in the streets so...
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>>137560550
expand on this oxymoron, because those priniciples don't conflict with an ethnostate project
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>>137551159

Communism calls for dissolution of all religious sects so no fuck communism. Communism in almost all branches called for borders, cultutre, and race to be abolished while regressing to a premative state. The only communism I know that keeps borders but at the same time destroys culture and burns churches is obviously Stalinism. No I would not accept communism in any form, better dead then red.
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>>137571866
it's all part of the dawa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx2hEc7Dlcg
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>>137559607
That's not what caused the shortages in the USSR.
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>>137551159
No such thing. Communism is a globalist ideology. Unless you kill all nigs on the planet...
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communism is already accepted in the west though
that basic income thing is coming soon and the government will own all of us
buckle up faggots
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>>137571953
communism is only opposed to religion if it is used to stifle class consciousness

there are many christian socialists

>>137572169
no, it is internationalist

globalism is a capitalist project
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>>137551159
fuck off /leftypol/
sage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8LtQhIQ2AE
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>>137551159
Kill all non red haired/green eyed people Kill all black haired people Kill blondes too idgaf they're vermin as much as the jew I'm talking to you too nazi/kkk nuke them all to oblivion let Ronald McDonald fucking do it if you have black hair kkkkkyyyysssss Anytime I ever see anyone with black hair sympathize with being white I just wanna say "fucking kiiill yourself" RED HAIR SUPREMACY BLACK HAIR HATE HATE THE BLACKIE BLACK HAIR IS FROM THE DEVIL KILL BLACK HAIRED PEOPLE
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>>137551159
Whites don't push communism, so no.
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>>137572648
>glasnost disrupted food production

huh, WOW
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>>137572351
>no it is internationalist
what the fuck do you think globalism is?
>>137572169
thats why /pol/ is a nazbol board
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>>137551396
Kill all black color haired people fuck being """white""" KILL ALL BLACK COLOR HAIRED PEOPLE KILL ALL YELLOW HAIRED PEOPLE WHITE OR BLACK THEYRE STILL A NIGGER
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There are pro,s and cons with every system. The redistribution of wealth gain everyone, the rich as well. And how much money do a person need in one life time.

Hitler was a socialist and he was a good person I highly respect, so socialism cant be all bad im sure of it.
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>>137572857
how about you look at the fucking word?

INTER-NATIONAL

BETWEEN-NATIONS

Globalism is the political offspring of globalisation and focuses on moving local political power to NGO:s through treaties
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>>137565010
By Stalin? No no, you're confused, he killed Communists. Millions and millions of them. Millions of screaming, begging, pleading leftists just like you, who were dragged out of their homes and frozen to death.

I mean millions. More than Hitler killed, more than the US killed with bombs and flamethrowers, more than anyone killed. Stalin is the greatest communist-slaughterer of all time.

And why did he do it? Did he do it to create Communism? Well that doesn't make much sense, here's another idea: He did it for roast beef and suckling pig, for rich red wine and bitches.

That's why he murdered millions of you. For money. I actually like Stalin. He sliced more Lefty tummy-wummies open than anyone else to ever live, and didn't give half a damn
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>>137571604
But then both of those would'n really be communism anyway, but some sort of post-scarcity startrek the culture utopia, so yeah...
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>>137551159
no.
the only communism i can accept is that of a white horde conquering and destroying land all across the world.
insead of bows and horses like Gengis Khan we will use Dodge and rifles.
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>>137551159
Better dead than red.
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>>137565951
What did East Germans think about Hitler and WW2? Did their experience with communism make them feel he was right?
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>>137551159
Depends. Are there any gays?
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>>137573200
t. Robert Conquest
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>>137551396
You're a faggot.
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>>137551159
Yes, absolutely. The preservation of our people comes before anything. Especially before money.
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no i will rather live in country full of conservative black people than communist country
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>>137574306
Uganda is filled with conservative black people

Would you rather live there than in say Belarus, which is the closest thing we have today to a "Communist ethno-state"?
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>>137562265
They started importing niggers because the system was failing. They needed more tax livestock because Swedes weren't churning out enough future taxpayers to compenstate for entitled Boomers' pension plans, and because they believe their own egalitarian bullshit, they figured any old Somalian ayy lmao could supplement the productivity of the average Swede.
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>>137573200
Pasta chef eh?
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>>137555908
We never had socialism, we had mixed economy with social democracy you tool. The largest migrant wave came during the moderates' term.
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>>137573200
Mao actually topped Stalin's body count.

Nobody cares about chink insectoids, though.
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>>137551159
No
Communism is a fundamentally evil and anti Christian ideology
White or not,communism is a 100% assured way to lose millions of lives and absolutely destroy any nation
Burn in hell Marx,you and all those humanist trash
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>>137571604
post-scarcity doesn't need any fancy technology just automated farming and most objects 3d printable
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no, and anyone who accepts totalitarian control of state ideology is a cuck
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>>137575237
yeah, workers possessing the means of production is cuckdom, would rather leave that business to the rich people so that they can appropriate my labour
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