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The older I get the more I hate Christianity. Christians are

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The older I get the more I hate Christianity. Christians are so pathetic.

Have you ever thought about the way they get new members? They recruit ideologically-weak people, like children and addicts. Children are brought to church with their parents and 12-step programs have religious faggotry in them.

When Christians try to recruit adults in public... how do they do it? By saying a bunch of confrontational shit. "Love Jesus or burn in HAY-ELL!"

Like... does that EVER fucking work? What adult, who doesn't believe in religion for some reason, is going to say, "Oh no! I don't want to burn in Hell! Teach me the ways of Christianity!"

No one's going to fucking say that. I don't even know if those Christian street preachers are actually trying to recruit or just yell and vent at the general public.

Christians are fucking scum.

>People on /pol/ actually buy into this bullshit

Where's the proof, Christfags? Your religion has the same probability of being true as Judaism or Islam.
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>>137547869
>Ephesians 2:1-5
"Once you were dead because of your disobedience and your many sins. You used to live in sin, just like the rest of the world, obeying the devil—the commander of the powers in the unseen world. He is the spirit at work in the hearts of those who refuse to obey God. All of us used to live that way, following the passionate desires and inclinations of our sinful nature. By our very nature we were subject to God’s anger, just like everyone else.

But God is so rich in mercy, and he loved us so much, that even though we were dead because of our sins, he gave us life when he raised Christ from the dead. (It is only by God’s grace that you have been saved!)"
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>>137547869
>People on /pol/ actually buy into this bullshit
How new are you? They're called christlarpers because they larp as christians. They know it's bullshit
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>>137547869
>tfw 135 iq tested by the state of commiefornia
>born again at 38 when God lifts the veil
>tfw God love me and spares me from eternal hellfire alongside kikes, mudslimes and sjw queers and Catholic kiddy fiddlers
Feels blessed man. If you kill me I win.
Fuck this literally gay earth and Fuck the jewnited states of sodomy
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>>137547869
At least they're not muslims
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>>137547869
lay in a hospital on your death bed and say that
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>>137547869
While i hate religion as much as the next guy, not all christians are scum, only the ones on /pol/ are all scum, most christians dont practise their religion at ALL.
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>voluntarily worshipping Yahweh to go to hell
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>>137547869
>>137548111
I preach the word of God because I know it's the truth and I want others to learn the truth and be happy.
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>>137547869
sounds like /pol/

Yall wonder why the master race isnt getting over with the folks in peoria.
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>>137547869
>Shills infest /pol/
>Start making anti-Christian threads
If you ever needed any proof that the left fears and hates Christianity for it's role in preserving white culture then this is it. Take the bread pill before it is too late.
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>>137548188
>jewnated states of somorra

USA is worst than Sodoma and Gomorra together
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>>137547869

>thou shalt not kill
>thou shalt not steal
>honour thy mother and father

what's wrong with these rules to live by?
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Because Atheism has led to degerency and with it Materalism has become the new big thing
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>>137549971
>spread the other cheeks
>take in refugees like the good goy i mean samaritan
>all people are equal stop being racist SHITLORD
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>>137547869
>What adult, who doesn't believe in religion for some reason, is going to say, "Oh no! I don't want to burn in Hell! Teach me the ways of Christianity!"

Yeah, ever since everyone and his dog could become a "theologian" by reading a "holy" book that is a proven fraud, people aren't quite as scared of the gods anymore - but they should be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R37BcbpvxiY
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>>137547869
>being this retarded.

enjoy your hedonistic life
>you wont get much more living done in the great beyond
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>>137547869
The older I get the more I hate Paganism. Pagans are so pathetic.

Have you ever thought about the way they get new members? They recruit ideologically-weak people, like children and addicts. Children are brought to temples with their parents and 12-step programs have hippy faggotry in them.

When Pagans try to recruit adults in public... how do they do it? By saying a bunch of confrontational shit. "I CAST A HEXSPELL ON YOU, ALACADABRA!"

Like... does that EVER fucking work? What adult, who doesn't believe in religion for some reason, is going to say, "Oh no! Odin save me! Teach me the ways of Paganism!"

No one's going to fucking say that. I don't even know if those Pagan street witches are actually trying to recruit or just curse and scam the general public.

Pagans are fucking scum.

>People on /pol/ actually buy into this bullshit

Where's the proof, Pagans? Your religion has the same probability of being true as Judaism or Islam.
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>>137550252
Youve been reading the bible upside down again
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>>137547869
>They recruit ideologically-weak people, like children and addicts

Nothing could be further from the truth. The most faithful Christians are generally family people, or just hard-working, righteous people.
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>>137550454

>Thinks I'm a Pagan

I'm an anti-theist.
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>>137547869
>When Christians try to recruit adults in public... how do they do it? By saying a bunch of confrontational shit. "Love Jesus or burn in HAY-ELL!"


Sounds like you've been hanging around too many protestants
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>>137550252

Sorry, I haven't read the bible as much as you. Can you point the books/verses of these?

Or are you, perhaps, conflating two completely different things?
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>>137550703
Luke 6
The good samaritan is one of the most famous stories in all the bible
Galatians 3:28

>I haven't read the bible
I know. Such is the knowledge of the christlarper
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>>137550454
>Where's the proof, Pagans? Your religion has the same probability of being true as Judaism or Islam.

LMFAO - in your dreams - losers. Enjoy hell monotheists - you earned it!

I hope telling 13 year olds Jesus is going to torture them if they touch themselves was worth eternity in hell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9uEspZpYlo
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>>137550744
Christlarpers in one picture
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>>137547869
>yes goy convert to Islam
our Lord and Savior advises you to kys
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>>137551231
Neither of these implies taking in refugees, and your bastardized "Christian" sects have no authority over Christ's teaching.

You're probably a Kike/muslim, so I couldn't care less about your opinion. You'll be the first to go.
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Anyone else here a deist?
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>>137548188
>jewnited states of sodomy

God bless you, brother.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-40920579
Do you think he converted for her?
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>All this demiurge worship
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>>137547869
What's the matter? You prayed to God for a girlfriend and He didn't deliver?
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>>137547869
Please do base your opinion on anti-propaganda like all the other weak minded do. If you looked even a bit deeper you would find good close-related communities, relief for people with sorrow and good values that would hold communities for centuries.
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>everyone is a potential Christian...they just need a bad enough personal tradedy to wake them up.
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>>137551950
the demi urge returned to the source
>being 2000 behind on philosophy
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>>137547869
>>137548111
>>137548551
I can hear you tipping your fedora in the distance
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>>137551598
I take you very seriously larpbro
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>>137552185
>philosophy
Ah yes philosophy, that's like talking things over and over again until we forget about the issue at hand and talk the guy out of it instead of solving it, isn't it?
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>>137550650
>I'm an anti-theist
Holy shit how edgy

Sounds like you are butthurt because parents forced you to go to church on Sunday
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>>137552413
not when you know what questions to ask

mental manlets cant see the point of it
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>>137552601
Well, I'm waging war against the demiurge and you're saying out of your ass that he had gone away, my experiences prove you wrong.
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>>137552373
>larp

Christianity is a living religion with millions of adherents. We will slaugther you, muslim.
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>>137550650
Where did pastor Jim touched you, anon
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>>137547869
Get on with you life faggot. Stop being triggered it's pathetic
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>>137548111
You're wrong, and right. They don't actually believe there is a God as you'd imagine it in pop-culture, but they believe in God as an abstract as if he is the good in the human spirit. They are cultural Christians, not true believers.
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>>137552786
>Christianity is a live roleplaying session taken too far
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>>137552842
>but they believe in God as an abstract as if he is the good in the human spirit.

No, we don't, we believe in God, the Son, the Father and the Holy Spirit. And if you don't, you're unsaved so you might as well believe nothing at all.
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>>137552776
I read the old pagan stuff too
Christ destroyed the old order of the SkyDad
the only way forward for pagans is to show the evolution of thought.

>id love our old ways to return, but normies need reasons
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>>137552185
what alphabet is this
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>>137553399
Angels/Demons you can summon

>do not try this at home
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>>137553329
>I read
That must be the problem, you're a reader, I'm an experiencer.
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>>137547869
But you also hate militant atheism right?
The guys who appeal to children and try to make them love science, critical thinking, rationality and so on?

See if you truly hate it, because I also hate it for same reasons you do and much more - you have to fight it, the only solid realization that comes to you when you abandon fairy thinking / religions it's that the most important virtue you're left with in this cold big world is pragmatism.

You have to carry the responsibility of the people you care about on your own shoulders and work around.
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>>137553489
After my ego death shit got real

>arguing with an "ally against negative influences"
>"muh speereience is better than urs"

I nod and smile as i telepath with a friend 40 miles away.
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>>137547869
Tough day at church yesterday, huh? Mom make you turn off your Xbox and come to church to get out the house for once? You should thank her, you need the vitamin D.
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>>137553456
there isn't even anything there, just a diverse bunch of tumblrish looking drawings, nothing even to try
Jesus Christ, and you guys are saying the Christians are the ones larping
> heres some pictures of some faggy looking goat demons you can summon
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>>137547869
>Like... does that EVER fucking work?
What are you a fucking valley girl? You don't have to write out the "like" in the sentence. You can just write "does that EVER fucking work?". You fucking commie fudge packer.
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>>137553076

I'd rather believe in nothing than a fairy tale written by greedy men in power to control the uneducated commoners. They barely even tried, just copied a bunch of myths from earlier cultures and mixed them into a fairy tale about a man hundreds of years before the Bible was written.

Life sucks as a peasant? Don't worry, just follow these teachings of a guy from a few hundred years ago and you'll have everything you ever wanted in a paradise after you die.
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>>137553777
try a ritual to summon them and be as insulting as possible if it doesnt work

>please dont be this wreckless
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>>137553679
>ego death

Sure m8
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>>137553909
ok

Jesus is odins son too
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>>137547869
>Your religion has the same probability of being true as Judaism or Islam.
I thought atheists were supposed to be smart
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>>137549406
Spicy bait. No one is this dumb
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>>137553985
We both know that's not true.
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>>137553981
That's cute m8

It's amazing when you enter the world of spirituality, you approach a person and the sonnuvabitch is filled with light, he start telling lies left and right.
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>>137553862
For your sake I hope you're no older than 13.
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>>137553862
>I'd rather believe in nothing than a fairy tale written by greedy men in power to control the uneducated commoners.
But no one believes in nothing, anon. People who believe in nothing end up believing in anything. The first seductive idea that gets shoved down their throat by the media or their peers. That's why every communist state went to great lengths to destroy religious institutions - faithless blank slates to reprogram. These days it's feminism, SJW bullshit, marxism, nazism etc. It's no (((coincidence))) that atheists vote in almost identical patterns to Jews.

Christianity might be a silly belief system on the surface, but it provides people with a firm moral foundation and a collective identity. Without those two things, society collapses. And look around us buddy, it's already happening.
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>>137554280
i stared at the void, died, born again.

it was quite the "experience"

You ever heard of the "Waking up and everything is the exact same, but with a new coat of varnish"?
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>>137553985

How is your religion any likelier to be true than Judaism or Islam? They both have scriptures and a bunch of religious zealots who believe in them.

How is Christianity any different?

>Inb4 "Well, the Bible says..."
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>>137554308
So, it's better to suck the cock of Christianity than the cock of some other ideology? Fuck you and fuck off. Authoritarian shill.

What happened to this board? It's filled with cucks.
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>>137554422
Tell me the story of how you killed your ego and didn't end up with a mental illness and potato retarded.
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>>137554507
>So, it's better to suck the cock of Christianity than the cock of some other ideology?
You tell me anon. Would you rather live in 1950s USA, or 2007 USA?

> Fuck you and fuck off. Authoritarian shill.
Damn son I just can't keep up with the sharp wit of an atheist

>What happened to this board? It's filled with cucks.
Says the guy who embraces the belief system that 100% of real life cucks belong to.
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>>137554664
*2017 USA
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>>137547869

They don't "recruit" the weak they try and help them. They frequently get people who were otherwise lost to society back into it.

If you think of them as some kind of political part or accult group you have missed the point of Christianity entirely.
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>>137554308
If you don't believe in God you'll end up the same as those who you apparently despise. There's a reason why the Bible says "believe, believe, believe", and not just "obey my commandments".
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>>137547869
It's a religion for adults, not edgy teens. You will get it when you are older.
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>>137547869
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>>137554802
>If you think of them as some kind of political part or accult group you have missed the point of Christianity entirely.

Or you're just a Roman Catholic, kek.
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>>137548188

>131 tested by commiefornia.
>Born again at 40.

Do the math and it works out that you figured it out two years faster than me based on IQ. I tip my commiefornia Christian fedora to you sir.
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>>137548188
>135 IQ
>theist

Pick only one.
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>>137554664
>sucks the cock of a literal jew
>believing in Jewish sub-religions

The only thing the Christians did right was throw out the Muslims. Past that, you're equally as much of a problem.
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>>137555029
Theist with 138 IQ. It's more common than you think.
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>>137554539
Depends on the perspective

> Got shit depressed
> an hero failure
> hospital
> Decide to repeat (while taking a few with me)
> tomorrowistheday.jpeg
> have dream
>wake up sweating with new outlook
>go outside, talk to nurse, who goes and gets me tea and toast
> talk to man with long hair in hospital smoking room
>tell him about dream
> "its all a dream anon"
> talk to nurse at breakfast
> "where is long hair guy?"

>there was noone like that in the hospital last night anon.

Its been getting more intense since

So, experience
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>>137555111
Sorry, m80, but I don't buy it.
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>>137554875
The Roman Catholic church is in violation of the bible and has been corrupt for centuries. Protestants like me on the otherhand are often weak in their convictions and or loosely interpret the religion to be about what they want. The best is the Eastern Orthodox, I think. However my personal experience with this church is nill. Perhaps the Moromons are right after all, but regardless. This is a people problem, not a god one. Humans make up the church, and humans tear it apart- it's our will. Rest assured, nothing will go unjudged.
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>>137555059
You belong to the same ideological group as:
>Literal cucks
>Liberals
>Feminists
>SJW's
>Antifa
>Communists
>Cultural Marxists
>(((Academics)))
>Every social science major
>Gays
>Transexuals

Really activates the almonds
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>>137552438
Nah, he's just a Hitchen's fanboi.
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>>137555168
Nigger, ego death makes you crazy, it's a trap by assholes to destroy the minds of spiritual people, it also weakens your spirit.
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>>137555225
Smartest three men I know are theists, including a professor of Biology at a university.

There are probably more smart white theists per million whites than there are smart niggers totall.
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>>137555111
It takes that high IQ not to fall for atheist propaganda.

And checked
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>>137555225
I don't care, to be honest. If you're that insecure about being smarter than everyone, that's your problem.

>>137555482
Also worth noting the religiosity of the country can have an impact. Religious countries may have smarter atheists because they go against the grain of society. It seems to be the opposite in less religious nations.
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>>137555275
pol will lead the reformation
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>>137549849
>Take the bread pill
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>>137555029
>saved by the bell curve
Low IQ = faith without reason
Average IQ = fedoralord
High IQ = GAS THE KIKES
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>>137555482
>Smartest three men I know are theists
You need to get out more
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>>137555611
Thanks. It seems like most of the atheist claims I see are personal incredulity and logical fallacies. I also rarely see an atheist who seems to "get" religion and God. They usually have a simplistic understanding, speaking from experience.
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>>137547869
Go live in a non-Christian nation if you got a problem with us.Have fun and good luck.
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>>137555059
>>137554507
>>137553862
damn kid, isnt it a peepee time for you now?
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>>137547869
approve
kike-shill religion for idiots
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>>137555319
>tfw you literally build a strawman list

Yeah, none of that applies to me. You're actually the reason why we can't push right wing politics forward. Doing twenty under in the far left lane.
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>>137555392
i was a turn the other cheek christian b4,
not anymore tho, one of the philosophy angles was around "if i fight and kill for my family,do I go to hell"

i think not, its no different than self defence to protect the culture (ie, my extended family)

so jesus does go to war beside you if its for the right reasons

so buddhist armies have the right idea imo
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>>137548188
>>137554933
>>137555111
>>137555611


Hi IQ theists, checked, and ch-checked.
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>>137547869
>Logically flawed theology
>Catholicism is essentially proto-communism
>Based Martin Luther changed doctrine so that material success is a sign of god's favor, this is why protestant countries are historically much more successful
>Protestantism still has faggotry in it
>Religion made by a Jew who didn't exist lol

I believe a supreme being is possible as a 4 Dimensional being would be god like but christian theology is logically flawed, so /i don't concern myself with religion.
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>>137547869
Hinduism is the way.
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>>137547869
>Let's give undeserving people stuff
Christianity is a leftist ideology
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>>137547869
Believing in god isn't about intellectually deriving a conclusion that the world was created based on evidence, its about not being a fucking pussy. Shut the fuck up and accept God you stupid fedora tipping faggot.
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>>137555918
Actually we live in a gnostic universe.
I reached gnosis, you truly feel divinity within, was given to me by God.
I'm interested in demonolatry because a certain qliphothic demon helped me, though I won't say more because he doesn't like me spilling the beans.
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>>137547869
Because the same type of schizos that inhabit pol inhabit the church. This is why christians have no self awareness
It's a destructive cycle - garbage in garbage out
No real leadership will come to the church and therefore no true outreach to of age people with broken souls like you will occur
Unless of course you took some initiative, but how likely is that to happen. You want to be baby fed christianity by someone else, not work for it right?
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>>137556038
POO
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>>137555913
The intellectually superior atheist fails to grasp grade school logic. What a shocker. My argument isn't that you're necessarily any of those things. My argument is that your belief system or lack thereof creates conditions in which those subversive, toxic, and degenerate ideologies and lifestyles are given room to flourish.
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>>137556055
>implying
For even while we were with you, we gave you this command: “If anyone is unwilling to work, he shall not eat.” 2 Thessalonians 3:10
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>everyone I disagree with is LARPing!
retards
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>>137554020
It's not bate though.

I've spent years and years in the evangelical work, I think our society would best benefit if everyone became a Christian.

The people would finally stop fighting.
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>>137555789
Common fallacy I see argued by atheists is that if something cannot be proved does not mean that it is not true. Argument from ignorance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

Basically, there are things that can be true that cannot be proved logically. Using the limited logical ability of the human mind to try to understand all of reality will lead to a pretty unfulfilled life. In Biblical terms, this leads to idol worship, and culturally, leads to degeneracy and materialism.
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>>137556107
im just gonna write this

i astral travelled a handful of times,
told the future 3 times
lucid dream alot, (know how to study entire subjects in my sleep)

it aint a competition, but we both seem to have merit, the whole outer demon thing tho, honestly thought about enochian magic, but i dont think now is the time.

I pray and converse with/to my ancestors tho, thats legit

I think we're probably just talking about the opposite sides of the coin
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"The un-Greek in Christianity - The Greeks didn't view the Homeric gods as lords above them and themselves as servants below them, unlike the Jews. They saw likewise only the reflection of the most perfect examples of their own caste; meaning an ideal, not an opposite of their own nature. They felt related, there was a mutual interest, a sort of symmachia. Man thinks nobly of himself if he elects for himself gods like that, and puts himself in a relation similar to that between the low and the high nobility; whereas the Italic peoples have a real peasant religion, with perpetual trepidation against evil and fickle power holders and pests. Where the Olympic gods retired, Greek life too became more gloomy and fearful. - Christianity on the other hand squashed and broke man altogether and submerged him like in a deep mud: into the feeling of complete depravity it suddenly allowed to shine the light of a divine compassion so that the surprised one, stunned by mercy, would let out a scream of delight and believe to carry all of heaven within himself for a moment. All the psychological inventions of Christianity work towards this sick excess of emotion, towards the deep corruption of mind and heart required for this: it seeks to destroy, to break, to stupefy, to intoxicate, there is only one thing it does not want: moderation, - and hence it is in its deepest sense barbaric, asiatic, immoral, un-Greek."
- Nietzsche
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Reminder that Christianity is the foundation of Consevatism and Right-wing politics in general. Progressivism is inherently secular, anti-Christian and is the fruit of Atheism.
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>>137556563
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>>137553862

> 2017
> those damn greedy cuckians!

I can't even right now
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>>137556095
>Believing in god ..... its about not being a fucking pussy

Toppest of keks. Swallows the most laughable, ridiculous story ever told, all for the purpose of soothing his fear death.

>not a pussy
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>>137556225
>requiring a mystical desert wizard to teach you morality

Are you an animal?

But honestly, I don't think theists are intellectually inferior. I think it's an ego issue or the ever-looming presence of death. A personality flaw. Not necessarily harming their ability to reason unless they jump the shark with it.
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>>137547869
17 isn't old
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>>137547869
The Bible states that Jews are above gentiles. Jews seem to think they know something gentiles don't as they are waiting on their own "Messiah" to return. This Messiah would have to be the Christian "Antichrist". Personally, I believe this Christianity obsession is what is holding white supremacist movements back.

>In the Shemoneh Esrei prayer, recited three times daily, we pray for all of the elements of the coming of the mashiach (messiah): ingathering of the exiles; restoration of the religious courts of justice; an end of wickedness, sin and heresy; reward to the righteous; rebuilding of Jerusalem; restoration of the line of King David; and restoration of Temple service.

If the Jews believe this, then Christianity was literally the OG Jewish psyop.
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>>137556563
Nietzsche doesn't know shit about Christianity.
https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Indwelling-Of-Christ
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>>137557032
but if groups of people do it together,and benefit their communities and themselves, as opposed to secularists who cant agree on anything because "secular"

>the fruit of the tree is the best judge of the genes

there are plenty christfags and the hell bound can agree on right now though, these threads just drive a wedge in (((they))) pay well for shills.

xtians and normies both hate (((them))),
but (((they))) get us to argue with each other.

>thats the story of jesus
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Christianity and Judaism play off of one another.

This is, however, quite interesting:

>Although some scholars believed that G-d has set aside a specific date for the coming of the mashiach, most authority suggests that the conduct of mankind will determine the time of the mashiach's coming. In general, it is believed that the mashiach will come in a time when he is most needed (because the world is so sinful), or in a time when he is most deserved (because the world is so good). For example, each of the following has been suggested as the time when the mashiach will come:

if Israel repented a single day;
if Israel observed a single Shabbat properly;
if Israel observed two Shabbats in a row properly;
in a generation that is totally innocent or totally guilty;
in a generation that loses hope;
in a generation where children are totally disrespectful towards their parents and elders;
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>>137556563
>Nietzsche
>literally a syphilitic weakling that was mad about everyone and everything.
Wow so cool, such deep
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>>137557455
>This guy knows what a Frankist is
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Protestantism and all the american sects are so retarded in the way they convey the teachings that i don't blame any fedora for their hate. No substance, no ritual, no respect for the sacred. A larp indeed, subverted long ago by ((())). Orthodoxy is the only proper branch of christianity left

Op you are better off living as an atheist with a strong moral set of principles rather than become a whateverist of latter day bumfucks sect no#4353 of 'merica and sing and yell in the church like its a fucking concert stage. Your country lost all semblance of true spirituality
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>>137557272
Anybody who says Christianity is some secret Jewish ploy has clearly never read the Bible.
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>>137557032
>Are you an animal?
Think of the average 100 IQ person. Now imagine that person becoming a moral philosopher. Now imagine hundreds of millions of these people creating their own individualized moral systems that are compatible with everyone else's. This is what you propose?
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>>137557455
>G-d
>>>/oven/
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>>137557378
Probably just deal with them together and then just turn on each other. The usual.

Just as an aside, secularists can generally agree on more in my experience because we don't have the threat of an eternal hell above us. Makes you more flexible. Not a smug response, hopefully it doesn't come off that way.
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>>137557804
>have 100 IQ
> can have Orange Juice and Fruit for breakfast
or
> Beer and doritos

mfw: moral philosopher
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>>137555111
I was once a theist too, for the sole reason that I could not find a weakness in the designer universe argument.

But then I came to a conclusion that it is impossible that a God created us out of curiosity/love/whatever emotion, because all the emotions are are chemicals and neurons in our brains which we have evolved to further benefit our survival (ex, love to protect your family and gene pool.) Now, why would God have or need any of these emotions, as Christians preach he is a supernatural being without any body (therefore no brain) and if we can prove that emotions are a physical thing, not some spiritual bullshit then if a God existed he wouldn't give a shit about anything, he'd be like a computer (So he pretty much might as well not exist) and didn't create our universe.
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>>137548111
I was in Church just an hour ago.
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>>137557949
secularists have no standards though, thats why you can get the "best" and "shittest" to agree,

people who care have standards, thats why purges and schisms happen,and the failures die out.

just like when secularists break away
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>>137557949
>we don't have the threat of an eternal hell above us
let me guess, you think that hell is about demons mutilating your anus with pitchforks, right?
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>>137558243

did you receive the Holy Communion?
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>>137558276
Why don't you give us a precise definition of hell?
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>>137558243

do you turn the other cheek?

do you help the poor?

do you love Christ so you would give your life for Him?
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>>137557724
I went to a Lutheran school as a child, but it's been a while. There are far too many systems of belief in the world. I do believe there is a "magical" element to the world.

>Olam Ha-Ba will be characterized by the peaceful co-existence of all people (Isaiah 2:4). Hatred, intolerance and war will cease to exist. Some authorities suggest that the laws of nature will change, so that predatory beasts will no longer seek prey and agriculture will bring forth supernatural abundance (Isaiah 11:6-11:9). Others, however, say that these statements are merely an allegory for peace and prosperity.

>All of the Jewish people will return from their exile among the nations to their home in Israel (Isaiah 11:11-12; Jeremiah 23:8; 30:3; Hosea 3:4-5). The law of the Jubilee will be reinstated.

>In the Olam Ha-Ba, the whole world will recognize the Jewish G-d as the only true G-d, and the Jewish religion as the only true religion (Isaiah 2:3; 11:10; Micah 4:2-3; Zechariah 14:9). There will be no murder, robbery, competition or jealousy. There will be no sin (Zephaniah 3:13). Sacrifices will continue to be brought in the Temple, but these will be limited to thanksgiving offerings, because there will be no further need for expiatory offerings.

It's all just very confusing with the great number of contradictions between Judaism, Christianity and Islam. They all play off of one another, but don't really make much sense.
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>>137557949

The left/right divide:

both sides willing to fight, as opposed to centrists. Right and left can agree on alot in the here-and-now. Turn Left vs Right, killing off willing combatants, control the sheep who cant see the need/are to afraid to stand up = good goyim with zero opposition
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>>137550744
>Was Christianity made by Jews? No, it was made by Israelites.
REALLY MADE ME THINK
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>>137549849
THIS
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>>137558490
Christianity hasn't preserved the white race, you paranoid dinguses.
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>>137557804
Which is fine because they would be incentivized towards what would work well in a society based on the what actually works in a society. It's the self-evident thing which has been working itself out for thousands of years. Promises of an afterlife helped coaxing people into believing it.

Seems this evolution of morality was co-opted a couple thousand years ago as a tool to help control the largest empire the world has seen until that point.
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>>137551373
Your Pagan Gods exist ONLY because He lets them exist.

These ... Gods (some, only really Demi Gods) know His power & would kneel before Him Immediately.

The second version of Christ is a warrior that has come to defeat the globalist scum & the aliens/demons that are currently in control...

First comes the World War, then the alien/demonic invasion within 18 months to 2 years.

Those of you who read this will remember it when it comes to be.
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>>137549849
How the fuck did christkikenity "preserve the white culture"? By stealing all pagan high festivals and portraying them as christian? Wow, sooo good of them.
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>>137558400
Being a fedora in front of God for all eternity :)

The Eastern Orthodox Church teaches that heaven and hell are relations to or experiences of God's just and loving presence. There is no created place of divine absence, nor is hell an ontological separation from God. One expression of the Eastern teaching is that hell and heaven are dimensions of God's intensifying presence, as this presence is experienced either as torment or as paradise depending on the spiritual state of a person dwelling with God. For one who hates God and by extension hates himself as God's image-bearer, to be encompassed by the divine presence could only result in unspeakable anguish.

John 3:
>19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
>20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
>21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
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>>137547869
Show your location faggot I bet you are just another mudslime shitskin, 1488
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>>137558571
It baisically created it.
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>>137558662
>The second version of Christ

So is this the Antichrist or the second coming of Christ you're referring to? How are you going to be able to tell? I swear to God, too much religion leads to schizophrenia.
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>>137547869
Try Orthodox 'kebab removing' Christianity. You'll think different about it then.
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>>137558632
>Which is fine because they would be incentivized towards what would work well in a society based on the what actually works in a society.
Which is why our countries are filled with feminists, SJW's, antifa and marxists...?

>It's the self-evident thing which has been working itself out for thousands of years.
What are you talking about? At no point in history has there ever been a prosperous non-religious civilization. People have ALWAYS been taught their morals from religion and mythology, which came from the minds of a select few chosen ones. That's precisely what allowed us to be able to build such complex societies.
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>>137558400
"Hell in an apple orchard"
by Anon A. Anonson.

In winter, the dead and sick branches are pruned, they are gathered together and burned in a pile, they disappear, they are no more, just ash and smoke, all life gone from them.

In summer, even the strong, healthy branches are pruned, this seems wrong, killing the healthy, but because they were burned the same as the dead and sick, fruit will be extra large, new branches shoot off, new fruit buds develop.

That accurate enough?
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>>137558879
he was referring to Christus Victor, but as always, being a burger means to degenerate everything on kindergarten level

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christus_Victor
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You hate the men that gave you the freedom you have now.
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>>137558662
Your Pagan Gods exist ONLY because He lets them exist.
"he" doesn't exist.

And do Pagan gods exist?

Zeus/Jupiter/Perun = Lightings - Exist
Mars/Ares = War - Exist
Uranos/Caelus = Sky - exist...
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>>137558276
Is it not?
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>>137554478
>what are miracles?
>what is the historicity of Jesus?
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>>137553904

>telling people to try and summon demons online

Do you ever stop and think about what it is you say? Disgusting behavior imo.
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>>137547869
>>People on /pol/ actually buy into this bullshit

because they're too poor to see therapists
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>>137559107
you're talking about annihilationism, bud. Thats Heresy
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Heathens! All of you!
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>>137547869
>>137547869
>A man who's whole ideology derives from muh freedom hates a religion that demands personal sacrifice of action.

Imagine my shock.
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>>137549849
This.
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>>137557651
Prove that your orthodoxy is true.
With thousands of other religion and denominations in this world, you simply cannot prove.
Just because you feel that orthodoxy is part of national identity it does not mean that it's the true denomination of christianity.
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>>137558879

Christ first came as the suffering servant to save the Earth. The second time he comes, He will come as the King of Kings to judge the Earth.

One can tell the difference between Jesus and the Antichrist by reading the Bible. No saved Christian will be deceived by the Antichrist and it is debatable whether or not the Church will even be on Earth when he is revealed.
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>>137558471
>>137557378

Not a lefty, just anti-authoritarian which theist-dominated societies tend toward without it being explicitly written into your founding document. And even then.
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>>137558662
And where's your proof for any of this?
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Daily reminder that the gnostics were right and your god is a false god who preaches false truths
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>>137559311
>read the greentext

im not the demon police anon
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>>137559311
>read the greentext

im not the demon police anon

>>137559382
The new fruit grown from the nutritional ashes of the dead would disagree
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>>137559170
>schizophrenia: the wikipedia article

By the way, I've been through just about everything having to do with Christianity and its theories in the past. I went to a Lutheran school. It's all unverifiable horseshit. I do believe in a creator, however.
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White Anglo Saxon Protestants are the most hated group in the world, simply because we're superior. Wear your identity like a badge of honor. The leftists and the alt right hate Christianity and Capitalism. They both hate America.
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>>137549849
>hates Christianity for it's role in preserving white culture

and this is why whites are subhuman. you literally have to believe in sky faeries to have any moral sense
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>>137557551
>Implying that he's wrong
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Patton was our second greatest general. It's a shame he wasn't able to finish off the communists after he wrecked the National Socialists. Unfortunately, Roosevelt was a communist himself. He was good friends with Stalin.
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>>137555844
/thread
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>>137559706
not knowing christ is a philosophical advancement of the limitations of pagan religious thought in order to explain what happens after you die because the school of thought had reached a dead end and needed a new perspective to continue the idea of god while still believing in ancestor worship until the roman empire forced filloque and standardised beliefs in western country
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>>137559382
>>137559107
How quickly the theists are arguing about their own text. Seems like another tool to divide us that directly stems from who? You tell me.
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>>137556055
Then why are most leftist atheists?
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>>137558677
I love myself and I love God for giving me an easy, comfy life. I don't believe in Christian doctrine and moralism at all though, and am convinced that God is perfectly fine with me smoking weed and indulging in homosexual behavior. What now?
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>>137559860
>It's a shame he wasn't able to finish off the communists

you dumb fuck. if it wasn't for communism, russia and china would've taken over the world by now. you should be THANKING communism for setting them back a couple centuries
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>>137560017
those are some very big words anon, its a shame you are wrong
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>>137560157
>Hehe, sorry OP but you're wrong
>No counter argument
>Posts some shitty MS paint christian propaganda from Sunday School

Is this how you think you win an argument? People like you should be cleansed from the gene pool, double digit IQ retards
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>>137559498
Because we know history :) Orthodoxy is closest to original church that was ounded by Apostles and confirmed by their eyewitnesses, while Catholics began to add alien and unfamiliar dogmas and doctrines and protestants are basically an offshot of Catholicism.
For Other religions:
Judaism doesn't exist anymore, its Talmudist and kabbalism that have contradictory teachings and based on suspicious agadot and ideas of Jewish thinkers.
Islam is Just retarded founded by a pedophile for their own interest. If you want proofs, Just read Koran, and its teachings (like sun sets in a muddy pool and semen is formed between ribs), their special position about muhammad and life of muhammad from hadith (it will be like reading a weird porno, with all the semen scrubbing of aisha in Sahih al Bukhari 229-233)
As for the rest, they are clearly manmade fetishization of natural phenomena and deceased leaders, mainly orientating on garbage teaching of pantheism, which is illogical.

At the end, you must research it yourself. But this is Basic guideline for dummies
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how can creationfags even compete?
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>>137559860
>>137560111

Each comment equally retarded as the last. Communism and Christianity (by itself without NatSoc) both lead to BLACKED
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>>137560023
In fairness i'm not roman catholic, I just think what Jesus said was right. The orchard is a good analogy imo, but its poetry not prose
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>>137560111
Communists killed more than any National socialist or fascist. In fact, they're still killing people to this day. America shouldn't have been involved in either world war.

Also, your comment doesn't make any sense.
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>>137560450
>Communists killed more than any National socialist or fascist.

their own people faggot. or are you unironically siding with chinks?
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>>137560419
What you meant to say was, communism and National Socialism need to be eradicated, because both ideologies are anti American.
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We're still being invaded by shills who are trying to remove the NatSoc element of the board. Christianity is a WEAK religion on its own. Communism leads to BLACKED.
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ITT people butthurt at Christianity because it condemns them for sucking dick.
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>>137547869
In the initial stages of the red pill you may become a little edgy and rebellious.

But when you have seen the unwanted consequences of living far from God, you begin to understand that it wasn't that bad as you believed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-gGQjT9Nlk
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>>137560419
>I'm so uncucked that I save gay interracial porn and use it to insult Christianity
Time to take a step back and examine yorself.
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>>137559672
Einstein existed. So is every claim ever made about him true? The autism? How he failed math class?

No.

A person's existence is not the veracity of the claims made about him. Those could very well be nonsense, and most are. Your religion is more or less a hodgepodge of politically motivated jewish and roman drivel. All thoughts, images, and words of the truth have been lost in that book of nonsense.

>The church: we don't like this truth, so it's a lie
>The church: we like this lie, so it's truth
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>>137560627
You need to speak proper English, because I have no idea what point you're trying to make.
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>>137560419
uh, no. (((democracy))) does dumb fuck
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>>137560103
No, You dont love God if you dont believe him and keep his commandments, that are, at the end still for you. Thats called being a hypocrite
>Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. (matthew 22:37)
Pederasty is Bad for you, Smoking is bad for you.
You must be as perfect as he is, for we are beings, who God has ordered to become gods (St. Basil of Caesarea)
>Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. (Matthew 5:48)
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>>137560745
why do you want your enemies to be successful? communism
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>>137560845
fuck, got cut off. communism turned russia and china into the shitholes they are today.
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Capitalist Christians are probably the biggest oxymoron you can imagine, Jesus was the first communist, he gave to the poor and stated that it was easier for the camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into heaven.

Communism therefore is a human mirror of God's Heaven on Earth
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>>137560346
>muh IQ
*tip*
christianity has some pagan-inspired traditions however the theology is fundamentally different
>christianity is only there to explain the after life
haha yes please ignore the rest of the bible
im sorry you hate christianity because it condemns homo sex
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>>137547869
triggered like a little bitch you are
kys faggot
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>>137560922
That story has to do with attachment to material items, he isn't saying the rich are necessarily evil you moron
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>>137559653

Yeah misreading on my part. Sorry about that.
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>>137560922
>he gave charity and condemned people who are more attatched to their money than God therefore communist
okay, retard
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>>137560631
>anti American
One cannot simply stop the liberal media from pushing race-mixing and figurative white slavery by way of the First Amendment. They will lose their jobs for simply speaking their mind, and it will not be stopped without violence. The city-dwelling Millennials and Baby Boomers are far too brainwashed.

Libertarians, "patriots", and Republicans have no idea what they're doing, and the Founding Fathers said what is happening now would eventually happen, they just didn't know we would have ever allowed a nigger to become President.

The sad irony of the First Amendment is that it gives voice to those who wish to trample it.
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>>137560922
More likely: Jews were pushing communism before marx was born and injected such nonsense into the bible because it was growing in popularity among the goyim
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>>137560923
Okay, so your argument is
>It's not paganism

Never said that Christianity is only there to explain the after life, only to point out your idiocy but now we're here it's not, but that's essentially the core of the entire practise and I suppose is what keeps Christians in line and obediant
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>>137560922

>communism
>led by the wealthiest people ever

>Christianity
>taught in caves

You understand all the general knowledge theological shit we take for granted today was completely new to early Xtians?

>LARPers looking at the early Xtian church with 21st Century rose tinted glasses.
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>>137561040
If you were rich and had no attachment to your wealth (I.e materials items as you say) then what stops you from giving it to your fellow man?
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>>137560922
Jesus was a carpenter before fulfilling scripture. Carpenters in those days were also stone masons. So Jesus was a pretty hard worker. His disciples were all working men as well. They were all capitalists.

''Thou shalt not steal'' Is the basis of capital. Taxation is theft. Mathew was a tax collector before following Jesus. Jesus said it was harder for a rich man to enter heaven. He never said it was impossible. He said you SHOULD give money to the poor. Nobody should be forced to do anything, but on their own free will.

A mans labor shouldn't be taxed as Jesus said. So keep your authoritarian doctrine in Europe with Islam.
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>>137560791
Sounds like a statist authoritarian rulecuck to me desu. Fuck that semitic shit, I'll stick with deism.
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>>137549849
yep
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>>137561124
Could be
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>>137561265
Any leader of any movement that has sway over a large number of people will always be wealthy though
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>>137547869
I pity you.
Ye never knew Christ.
You only knew ""Christians""
pray to start over and hear and see the Gospel with new ears
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Some Christians are dumb, and some are the smartest. Your point? Strawmen as usual.
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>>137561335
>Taxation is theft

Not necessarily, not if the population benefits from the government's use of the taxes (Like the NHS here), therefore it's not theft then but a trade.
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>>137561496

Thomas J. Clarke.
Seán Mac Diarmada.
Thomas MacDonagh.
P. H. Pearse.
Éamonn Ceannt.
James Connolly.
Joseph Plunkett.

literal who's?
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>>137561106
The first amendment, along with the rest of the constitution and America, was for ''white men of good moral character''.

Non-whites do not think like individuals as you and I do. They think like a herd. They're communists by nature. This is why non-whites almost always vote for leftist politicians. It's genetic.
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>>137561334
A lot of the time a rich man can do more good applying his wealth to business than to charity. In the long term he will be able to help more people by employing them and creating products than by distributing his wealth in one instance.
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>>137561102
She was fucking a married guy in the WBC when she was 13, the dirty whore.
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>>137561124
You guys really cant make up your mind can you, Jews cant be rich bankers and push communism, they are not compatible.
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>>137558670
>Stealing
Preserving. Same people, same blood holding onto the traditions. No foreigners appropriating or removing it. Don't pretend that Christianity colonized Europe with foreigners like certain other religions. (including Indo-Europeans)
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>>137561102
>Nice strawman

Not people more attached to God, but those who were more attached to their money than their fellow man. Yes, his beliefs seemed to be the beginnings of early communist principles
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>>137555789
Debating and discussion also does not work for either sides. The presence of God cannot be explained in words, they have to find it themselves. We can only pray that they receive enlightenment.
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>>137561637
Income tax was a voluntary victory tax as stated in the constitution. Today that isn't the case, unfortunately. This is what happens when white men get lazy.
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>>137558243

so you are only a larper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wagn8Wrmzuc
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>>137561371
>what do you mean these activities are bad for me? Don't eat thumb tacks? What are you some of authoritarian?
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You pass the test.
GOD works in mysterious way!
Olny Christian goes to hell.
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>>137558243

Me too
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>>137561371
If you dont want to become a god, that s your choice.
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>>137561658
Sorry I don't know about your Irish activists, but being a leader of a large amount Irish people is like owning an empire of dirt, the country isn't exactly prosperous, that could be one reason to explain it.

The other is that, since I have never heard of any of those names, be that out of ignorance or whatever you please then they obviously didn't hold a sway over large enough people to be relevant.
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>>137561782
>No foreigners appropriating or removing it.
Original christians were Jews.
>Don't pretend that Christianity colonized Europe with foreigners like certain other religions. (including Indo-Europeans)
Or Finnics...

Since you migrated from Siberia and killed off Cro-Magnons.
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>>137561637
Big Pharma is killing you, why do bongs think pharmaceuticals are good for them?


Just be healthy and grow poppies, if your healthy you're ok, if you arent, your screwed so heres some poppies for the pain.

Either you have decent genes and care for your health = Live long

or dont = sit with other sickos and smoke painkillers

no tax needed and it will strengthen the herd/ lazy LARPers can go die peacefully
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>>137561705
True, but he still is exploiting the workers and customers in a regard since the entire point of any cooperation is to earn profit, therefore someone has to lose otherwise the conglomerates don't win.
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>>137561684
A return to Libertarian principles is the goal, however, there is no way to get there without deportations, revocation of rights to minorities, or ethnic cleansing: basically NatSoc. I've lost the video which contained a lot of truths about NatSoc, but it is essentially Libertarian principles but only for peoples of similar ethnicities.

It is a sad truth, but it is the only way to put an end to the chaos.
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>>137561787
>communism is not wholly materialist and violates half of the Ten Commandments
The communist sins in the same way that the selfish rich man sins, they both are covetous.
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>>137561927
''Eat of the fruit thereof, and ye shall be as gods.''

You believe in the first lie the devil ever told. I wouldn't be surprised if you were in favor of the trans-human/homo agenda. Because that's where it's all leading to.

You're a man, like I am. It's appointed unto us once to die, then judgement.
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>>137561992
>Original christians were Jews.
There was a divide on whether to spread Jewish culture or not. It was chosen to not do so, and judaizers are heretics.
>Or Finnics...
>Since you migrated from Siberia and killed off Cro-Magnons
Did we now?
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>>137561872
>bad for me
Very weak argument. I used to be depressed and would've likely ended up an heroing, now I'm in a monogamous relationship (which happens to be homosexual) and I am happy and fulfilled and have a purpose in life.

Also, alcohol is much worse for your body than the occasional use of cannabis, yet the former is okay while the latter is considered absolutely sinful. Complete bullshit. It's just a random despotic oriental cult and doesn't have anything to do with universal truth.
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>>137562064

Terrible reasoning.

The point of doing anything is go gain profit, financial or otherwise. It's what you do with the profit that matters.

Providing a product or service to people is not exploiting them.

Must be terrible walking around viewing everything as so morally reprehensible. Unless you view yourself above it all, of course.
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>>137553862
>yeah let's make a series of books in expensive at the time materials so we can control the world!
>but we might be crucified and martyred by the Romans, what would we gain?
>SILENCE WITH YOUR LOGIC, Zeitgeist is very clear on this!
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>>137547869
I left Christianity at 14, when I realized Jesus and God were created by humans to gather all dreamers and narrow minded people.
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>>137548111

>They're called christlarpers because they larp as christians. They know it's bullshit

You wish. People are just slowly realizing that the atheisms' "nothing in the middle of nothing suddely created itself, exploded and created everything" is a complete bullshit and that there must've been some higher force involved.

What OP said about Judaism or Islam is true, these are basically the only religions that I consider relevant. Rest of them are either dead or some animal worshipping bullshit which has never really left the borders of the country it was created in.

There aren't many arguments why Christianity is right and rest of them are wrong, since we all worship the same God. But the fact that Christians and Jews don't behead people who disagree with their opinions in 21st century might give a hint which would be the two finalists.
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>>137556334
Maybe Christfags would still be shown in good light if it wasn't for southern baptist and mormom schizos.
Catholics are the biggest faggots on this planet btw
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>>137561973

Getting 5000 willing fighters to take on an Empire, while telling them every step of the way that everyone involved is a blood sacrifice to ignite a fire inside all Free Men, and those 5000 understood their role.

This is why we hate the english, such a bubble culture.

>not enough sway
they stopped the irish getting gunned down in the streets. UK could use 7 heroes to do the same right about now against the caliphate.

bongs are completely ignornt of history = it will happen again
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>>137562002
>If you die of any disease your genes are inferior and you deserve to die

Doesn't really make sense, but I see your argument. In the long term it works because evolution would find a fix. But in the short term (E.g next 10,000 years) imagine if 90% of populations died out, not very good for economies is it?

And you don't factor in accidents, what if an UBER man (What you're going towards) gets hit by a car, something not of his own doing and can't be treated because you think the NHS and healthcare are a waste of time.
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>>137547869
This is your country now, you should take it back by force
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>>137562177
>There was a divide on whether to spread Jewish culture or not. It was chosen to not do so
Then why is sunday a free day? It's one of not many jewish traditions brought to Europeans.
>Did we now?
Yes you did.
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>>137562136
As I've said to another person on here, America was founded, and built for white men. The constitution applied only to us. Negroes were still considered 3/5ths of a person, and women didn't have the right to vote.

I understand what you're saying. About implementing an authoritarian state to take out the trash. But I doubt that's ever going to happen.

So in the meantime, just prepare yourself and your family for an upcoming collapse, or war.
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>>137547869
Non religious, but I support it to keep away the degeneracy and keep communism from controlling us.
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>>137562064
Exploiting by helping them both reach standards of life unimaginable by their ancestors? Come on now.
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>>137547869

>tips menora

I was militant atheist, agnostic, buddhist, straight out satanist, tried new age faggotry and occultism throughout my life and at the age of 27 found Christ and I'm since devout catholic. I am neither retarded nor a junkie or alcoholic. I'm a theoretical physicist.

Your arguments are mere feels. I'm really really sorry if you had bad experience(s) with bad Christians, but please do not hate Christ. God does want your best.
Also Jesus existed as we know from documents and sayings unrelated to Christianity/Gospels/etc.. And since he existed, and there were people willing to die for him that were in no way related to him - years, even centuries, after He died and rose again. And when he existed, and people were convinced to give their lifes, even without having known him like ever, then it is very likely that he also did the miracles and signs. And when THAT part is true, the whole thing is the Truth, because the whole OT is basically description of the NT - some books/passages more literal than others - even though written by unrelated people at different times.
To be honest, my apologetics skills are very limited.
Just let me tell you why I, personally, believe: During my work, I've come to notice that the universe is so finely tuned that even if you altered [any natural constant] even
at the 15th position after the comma, the universe would collapse or be torn apart. Now you could say "that happened to be just like probability theory", but this is highly unlikely (except you're a friend of the multiverse interpretations of QM and string theory). It's more like it's so finely tuned at the first and only try that it has to be done by someone that knew what He was doing.

See, even if you do not believe in Christianity then don't make the mistake to deny God at all. There are countless implications of Him and you should not reject something because of mere solpsistic arguments.

God bless you
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OP is a faggot.
Faggots hate Jesus.
A thread did not deserve to die for this.
But OP does deserve the AIDs and Hell for saying nasty shit about Jesus, who by all accounts was a pretty nice guy.
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>>137562275
Not necessarily, you think the only purpose of doing anything is to gain profit, you're not wrong.

This doesn't have to be monetary profit, for example, some people do it out of good will (Humans have evolved to get a shot of dopamine, the happy chemical whenever you help your fellow man after all.) therefore this is also a profit, instead of money it's happiness in a sense.

The other is because they feel that they will be rewarded and receive a profit far more valuable than money when they die, I believe this is horse shit, but whatever rocks your boat.
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>>137549182
I remember that post, I replied to that thread. pic related.
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>>137562361
It's the people who fell away from the teachings of Jesus Christ.

Those people are not real Christians.
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While were on this particular topic, I just want to add that the confederate flag is a Christian flag. If anything, the American flag has more blood on it.

It's a proven fact that nothing angers the loony left more than hard working American Christians. I mean, Hitler was a weak vegan. They can at least sympathize with him in a way.
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>>137547869
Christ larping is an American phenomenon. Like most of American phenomenons; pure cancery.
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>>137557021
Its not about fearing hell its about not being a pedantic fuckwit.
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>>137562369
the economy is killing you as much as pharma, they get you to work 40+ years so Akmed can take your tax for nothing and sit at home breeding, while you literally work yourself to death.

People die everyday anon.
maybe without NHS people would bother to learn basic field medicine and CPR, with all the spare time they have not working themselves to death to pay for the thousands of inbred pakistani babies that are so precious (as opposed to the working man)
NHS or not.
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>>137562504
>upcoming collapse, or war.

It will only happen after that, just as in Weimar
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>>137562363
Okay, thanks for the lesson genuinely didn't know about them and that revolution.

It's called selective learning, us bongs know a fair amount about history but only when the anglo have succeeded, we're not taught about our failures so as I said, you'll have toe excuse my ignorance.

Whilst I don't say that their movement and what they did wasn't noteworthy, but leading all of Russia and its population under communism is going to yield far more wealth than leading 5000.
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>>137562478
>It's one of not many jewish traditions brought to Europeans
Not true. Saturday (Saturn / Satan) is the Jewish holiday / sabbath.
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>>137562170
read about theosis mr burger education
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>>137562836
>maybe without NHS people would bother to learn basic field medicine and CPR

I doubt it.
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>>137562255
Anal sex literally kills you, you can't twist that around with your Jew tricks. And I don't drink either, but everybody I know who does can moderate themselves, whereas all the weed smokers I know are addicted. It's expensive as fuck here but they keep doing it. The older ones say they hate weed but keep doing it anyways. Tell me they hate weed, take a toke, cough their lungs out, then take another. Proverbs explicitly recommends against the consumption of alcohol, by the way.
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>>137562552
I suppose a glimmer of light looks like the entire sun when there was only darkness before.

So if I starve you for a long period and then feed you a bucket of my shit you should be grateful of my mercy to offer up a bucket of shit?
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The older I get the more I hate Atheists. Atheists are so pathetic.

Have you ever thought about the way they get new members? They recruit ideologically-weak people, like children, by preaching atheism in schools and to addicts with big pharma snake oil "cures". Children are forced to study atheism in schools with their parents agreement and 12-step programs have atheist faggotry in them.

When Atheists try to recruit adults in public... how do they do it? By saying a bunch of confrontational shit. "Love feces as part of your sex life or be ridiculed on social media" It's own kind of oHAY-ELL!"

Like... does that EVER fucking work? What adult, who doesn't believe in atheism for some reason, is going to say, "Oh no! I don't want to burn in Hell! Teach me the ways of buttfuckery!"

No one's going to fucking say that. I don't even know if those atheist school preachers are actually trying to recruit or just yell and vent at the general public.

Atheists are fucking scum.

>People on /pol/ actually buy into this bullshit

Where's the proof, atheistfags? Your religion has the same probability of being true as Mormonism or National Socialism.
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>>137562938
You'd be surprised what I've read.
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>>137562836
Okay, but basic field medicine isn't going to be sufficient to operate on a patient with expertise and skill such as the NHS' surgeons do.
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>>137562865
lol
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On the news they have already shown people accepting the Mark of the Beast, literally the chip planted in the right hand between the thumb and index finger, I did not believe until this was shown quickly and briefly mind you. It was a shocking and horrifying thing to witness first hand after prior time of reading Revelations.
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>>137548036
How does that address OP's points? What are you even trying to say?
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>>137562609
>but this is highly unlikely
Every day we are experience countless zero or near-zero probability events.
Why do you single out the layout of universe as some special event that requires MORE explanation than all others? If you do so you are already invoking anthropic principle and by invoking it there is no need for god.
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>>137563058
I don't understand anon how exactly does having a penis inserted into your anal cavity kill you?


Not a fag btw just don't understand the logic
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>>137550454
The older I get the more I hate Atheism. Atheists are so pathetic.

Have you ever thought about the way they get new members? They recruit ideologically-weak people, like autistics and reddit users, retards are brought into special needs school with their caretakers and 12-step programs have psychobabble and Astronomy in them.

When atheists try to recruit adults in public.... how do they do it? By saying a bunch of confrontational shit. "NO ONE EXISTS ON PURPOSE YOU WALKING SHELL OF ATOMS!"

Like... does that EVER fucking work? What adult, who does believe in religion for some reason, is going to say, "Oh no! I will die and my consciousness will fade out of existence! Team me the ways of Atheism!"

No one's going to fucking say that. I don't even know if those atheist mathematicians are actually trying to recruit or just screech and berate the general public.

Atheists are fucking scum.

>People on /pol/ actually buy into this bullshit

Where's the counter-proof, atheists? Your lack of religion has the same probability of being true as Nihilism and the big crunch.
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>>137562609

To continue with the "why I believe":
After I acknowledged the "Creator", the next step was to identify who that may be. So I started diving into countless hours of reading about belief systems. But nothing convinced me, because most if not all other systems have pretty solipsist foundations or are straight up retarded [for example the Germanic or Hindu myths]. Then if we go on, literally EVERY SINGLE creation myth that is not related to Genesis of the Tora has a mere selfish aspect to it. No God or Gods created solely for the sake of Love. Every myth tells you that we - and whole creation for that matter - were created to fulfill a purpose of serving or entertainment or something along those lines. Genesis is the single and only one creational myth that tells us God created out of mere Love. Not because we were supposed to be servants - infact, we were the very last he created, so that's to be ruled out pretty much anyway (because with the angels, he already created something so obedient to him, that "muh slaves" is a non-argument).
And that's where it clicked for me. We have some kind of moral compass in ourselves through our conscience - where God literally speaks to us and says "bro better not do that shit [again], because it's super bad!".
Also Christianity is the only belief system in the world that is - not only the biggest - but has (provided we're talking about catholic and orthodox faith, because everyone else is heretic and should return to the Church) so profoundly based on philosophy and science that it's hard to ignore it anyway.
Literally no other religion has this capability.
And last but not least, the prayer. Prayer is the most beautiful thing you can do. And it was the final aspect that brought me into the Church. When I started to pray, it felt rather awkward - I didn't know what to say either ... but then I found the Rosary. And the first few times it was just "meh" .... 1/?
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>>137555029
Lower tier IQ - Believes in God

Middle tier IQ - Does not believe in God

Higher tier IQ - There could be a God

Transcendental brain with beams shooting out of it - Believes in God
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>>137547869
Nice subversive tactics as always, kike.
Sage.
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Jewish op
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By the way, what's a stormfag?
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>>137547869
>The older I get the more I hate Christianity.

Keep pushing, Schlomo.
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>>137563464

If your IQ is so high as to believe in theism then please find a flaw in
>>137558095
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>>137563062
Idk if you were in poverty your whole life and I offered you work that would let you live in a house and eat fine food, shitpost on the Internet, access more entertainment that you could possibly observe in your entire life etc. then I wouldn't describe it as exploitation but symbiotism.
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>>137563464
>higher and middle are the same thing
what did he mean by this?
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>>137550454
That just means pagans are as bad as christians. What's your fucking point?
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>>137563283
Oh that's just a prototype. The true mark I'd wager is more visible. While the rf chip is scary the real one is going to be enforced due to massive societal upheval. The people taking it now are just lol tech is so cool idiots. Aside from these implications the idea that they're chipped like an animal hasn't even crossed their minds.
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>>137563646
Okay that's one argument but if the employer's incentive was really to improve your life as much as he could and not just to profit off your desperation don't you think he would offer more than just a minimum wage job?
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>>137563203
Nigger the NHS has now had the precedent set for whether it completely controls your life or not. Or did you forget that case? Gotta break a few eggs when making the mother of all omelettes, right?
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>>137562883
but these guys built an army with words and facts, not "die by their bullet or ours".

If it wasnt for brit propaganda and tricks, alot more than 5000 would have joined,
>if,if,if.
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Jesus fought the Jew. Love Jesus, save your soul.
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>>137563836
Uhh explain please, what precedent was set? Do you mean with those retarded parents who wanted to put their son through a short life of agony?
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>>137563871
Jesus loves all kind, even the kikes who betrayed him. Only because Jews are the most ignorant race on the planet.
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>>137547869
#NotAll
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>>137563203
thats the point, the cost vs the rates of survival of chemo are out of whack

let the sick die or carry them on your back, is it a good thing to want to care for everyone to the point where one sick person costs so much that basic problems cant be solved because of funding problems, because thats where the NHS is now.
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>>137563843
Do you think the communist revolutionaries were always these powerful overlords?

No, their movement started the same as any other and the same as yours, winning over the hearts of the people.
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>>137563957
Actually, Ashkenazi Jews, on average, have some of the highest IQs in the world.

But Jesus knew they serve their father, the devil. Cannibals, murderers, pedophiles. All scum.
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>>137563945
ITT:
Bong begins to understand "Legal Precedent"
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>>137563367
STDs are the most obvious and easily proveable in their correlation with anal sex, but there's also just the risk of physically damaging the area. Might contribute the the sharp increase in rectal cancer amongst young adults but that's just my pet theory.
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>>137563754
I would not doubt by any means that is the "prototype" version, and being implanted within the hand could protrude out of their skin for visibility, and at this exact moment of time we are seeing the start of it and shown briefly so the majority does not witness. (Going back to how brief that news segment of it was, they showed 4 people get injected, spoke about the future of trading with this chip, and went on to the next distraction moving scenes as quick as action movies do now a days.)
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>>137564042
True, maybe the cost:survival ratio is out of whack but perhaps it's the highest it can be with current treatment?
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>>137547869
Protestants aren't christians.
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>>137553862
It is very obvious that you haven't done any fact checking to support you absurd claims. Everything you believe is copied from people around you,9fag and "le zeitgeist ecks dee" (terrible fcking source). Even /r/Atheism knows how ridiculous your beliefs are (just search for "zeitgeist" on that sub).
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>>137564119
Except they had a shit ton of money to spread propaganda.

we planned to overthrow an empire in a tobacoo shop, and did.

Its not the size of the dog in the fight.....
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>>137564305
*Catholics aren't Christians. I fixed it for you.
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>>137564181
I didn't follow the story closely but couldn't the parents have transferred their dying child to a private clinic if they really wanted? Instead of wasting money on lawyers and going through about 4 different courts to appeal.
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>>137564124
Those IQ tests are made up.
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>>137563432

... but then it was as if someone listened to me, put His arm around me and was like "it's all going to be ok". You know, I understand if you discount that as delusion or something, because it infact sounds crazy. But it isn't. And it wasn't something like the crazy heretics act like (*cough* pentecostal) but it was sincere and it really built me up. Since then I pray the Rosary (and other prayers) daily and it greatly benefited my general attitude, my work ethic and all. I became more calm and humiliate (I usually have big problems with anger and being very impulsive in general).

So that's why I tell you: Don't trust any of us here - even if we're genuine. Experience it for yourself. Making 5 minutes free per day for prayer really isn't that much.
Just don't make the huge mistake and discount anything for the sole reason of edgyness or because you cannot understand what's behind all of that.

>>137563324

Highly unlikely =/= virtually unlikely =/= absolutely unlikely.
>Every day we are experience countless zero or near-zero probability events.
This is not an argument. We're talking abou how the framework of the universe is set, not how events WITHIN this system occur. There is a big difference. It's like people trying to argue whether God is scientifically "provable". It's not going to happen, because "Being" itself, that is independent of any spatial, time- or [name ANY] confinement that we are bound to cannot be proven through our limited means. How this is still an argument, I do not know.
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>>137563830
A minimum wage English job is still an incredible life, and if you're actually working minimum wage past the age of 16 you might be a nigger. We're also talking about hypotheticals about the evil explorative rich man, whereas the original argument was about all rich men.
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>>137559033
>At no point in history has there ever been a prosperous non-religious civilization
>People have ALWAYS been [autism]
The US is not a Christian nation; the US is a nation with Christians. One is a retarded stagnant civilization, and one is a non-religious nation with separation of church and state ruled by secularism. Sadly, I trust you to figure out which is which as much as I would trust a reanimated Jesus Christ to sodomize you in front of your loved ones.
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>>137562648


so would you like to live in a society driven solely by greed?
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>>137564337
But the size of the fight in the dog

I don't know enough about the Irish resistance movement to really debate it with you, I'm sure an Irishman knows more than me about their history.

But you didn't overthrow the empire, you just freed your country.

Can't even remember what we were originally discussing desu
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>>137564440
How are they made up? Alfred Binet was a very smart man. He knew his stuff.
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>>137564265

Cancer is a life choice, "we dont know how it happens" is a meme.

Be healthy and live, or dont and die.

Cost ratio is causing health problems due to stress (causes lots of illness) in working class men, you'd have far more productive industries if people could keep what they earned and could afford a weekend away a few times a year, instead of the fuzzy feeling you get on Tax day.

The strong would be stronger without carrying the weak, and the weak wouldnt feel a thing on opium
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>>137563754
Eww your comment about tech being trendy, this alteration may be promoted as a cybernetic modification or some trendy product placement so younger people accept them without even a second thought, among more sides to the perspective at once horrifying.
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>>137564687
I can't believe people who are so intelligent would only bring hatred.
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>>137564645
Eh I mean I wouldn't mind living in a society in which all the idiots work for me because they're assured they'll get their due after they die of course.

Our society is more or less already entirely driven by greed.
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>>137564416
>couldn't the parents have transferred their dying child to a private clinic if they really wanted?
Was that not exactly what they tried to do? They tried to get help from an American Doctor (as usual), but we're not allowed. By the way, are you a Strasserist? The way you speak reminds me on an English one I spoke to a while ago.
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>>137564764
I guess those 8 year olds who get leukemia were binge drinkers eh?
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>>137564560
True, but again it's all relative, we look like giants to our pets.

In the end anyone who has wealth would have to have gained it one way or another off someone else's suffering and loss.

No one wins without someone losing.
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>>137564842
Do you believe in God?
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>>137558095
So because emotions can be mechanically explained by chemistry, this disproves God in some way? Why?


>Now, why would God have or need any of these emotions, as Christians preach he is a supernatural being without any body (therefore no brain)

No physical body and no physical brain, but not without something analogous to what our mind is. God is a being that can think and can identify Himself as a 'thing.' When Abraham asks God what is His name, God refers to Himself as "I AM." Think about that philosophically for a moment. The first ever consciousness, the one that existed since forever ago, He identifies Himself as "I AM." There's something to this, anon. Almost as if that's the first thought a sentient being will have. "I think therefore I AM."

Of course, however, we're discounting Jesus. God did make a body for Himself at some point. But... let's move on.

> if we can prove that emotions are a physical thing, not some spiritual bullshit then if a God existed he wouldn't give a shit about anything, he'd be like a computer (So he pretty much might as well not exist) and didn't create our universe.

Idk, Christians don't say that emotions are spiritual. And if you hear Christians say that, it's unBiblical.

I suggest reading Book of Matthew and Book of Luke and getting a good idea of what Christ is like and coming to your own conclusions. A lot of Christians never really read The Bible.
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>>137564989
I don't know
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>>137564764
Interesting, sounds a lot like Nietzsche to me

But even those who live healthy can contract cancer, but I see your perspective
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>>137564846

so why do you keep elders alive? why do you keep cemeteries? does it give you some income?
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>>137558095

You are clearly retarded. You literally CANNOT compare love that we as humans "feel" with God's love and God himself. This is self-delusion par excellence.
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>>137558095
>>137563613

The emotions that we get from hormones mostly are animalistic desires, a leftover from our biological origin. That is why so many people struggle to keep the right path, as their consciousness and virtues are clouded by toxins and addiction. If you can silence the animal in you, God will reward your soul. Thus to make a virtuous life into the ultimate accomplishment, God has left us part animal, part divine. And there is no sense in talking about this from a purely rational stand point, philosophy has more answers.
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>>137564980
>In the end anyone who has wealth would have to have gained it one way or another off someone else's suffering and loss.
That's pure commie ideology and I completely disagree. Do you see yourself as a loser?
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>>137564416
they wanted to set a precedent, so they did.
the "free" legal help and "free" healthcare are decided by the government lackies

>>137564663
You said people who done anything had money, but i disagreed since literal irish farmers won a battle by dying honourably. Veitnamese farmers btfo Burgerland.

I think its honestly a Brit thing, to think power is in a bank account
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>>137547869
Here are Hitler's thoughts on Christianity. I tend to agree with him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sEN9MSDCcE
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>>137564860
Yeah, I think they wanted to try some experimental treatment in the states, but I was thinking why didn't they transfer their son to a clinic in England, just to keep him on life support and then transfer him to the US.

I think the NHS was just hesitant because of the costs of keeping the child alive for so long, and of course his suffering.

Strasserist? Isn't that the worker-based strain of NatSoc? If so I suppose so, however, for society I would favour a Stalinist hard left approach, wherein all the cultural marxist, feminists and other scum would be sent to the gulag.
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>>137565044
Well, the point I was going to make was, if you believed in God, then you have to believe in Satan as well. Satan is very intelligent and look at the damage he has caused.

Whether you believe in evolution or not, humans are violent by nature. Jews are about 2% of the American population, yet they control every media outlet and the federal reserve bank.

All living organisms engage in selfish activities to provide for their ''tribe'' in order to replicate their genes. Even the bible says be fruitful and multiply and fill the Earth.
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>>137565132
We keep elders alive because it gives them an incentive to work whilst they can so that they can one day live a relaxed life (retirement).

As for cemeteries, these are tied to religion and belief.

True, our society isn't 100% based on greed but that's only because, as I said, people are stupid. The majority of smart people are selfish as is the natural Human reaction
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>>137564977
Look at the environment, the diet, the exercise.

If all else fails, its the genes.

Its like three brothers out fishing, one fell in and instead of throwing a rope out, the two remaining brothers watched their brother drown as they prayed for his soul.

Until you get this perspective i wouldnt expect anyone to agree with me
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"Righteousness is the best of all good. True happiness is brought to the man who is Righteousness for the sake of being Righteousness."

-Zoroaster
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>>137565135
So why would God feel love? He's not a biological organism and therefore he'd have no reason to evolve it (Unless he's not the only one of his race)

Please don't give me that horseshit argument that Christians give me times and time again

>God's love is unimaginable therefore I do not have to explain myself to you
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>>137565121
and they'll figure out how to get rid of it if they can.

instead of millions being spent on labcoats and goggles with crap results
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>>137565605
So which is it, genetics, or a life choice? Everyone will agree genes play a role, hell if a parent or grandparent had colon cancer they know your odds of getting it are much higher.
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>>137565586

So why smart people would have children? First 9 months of feeling ill, then constant chaos in the house, unpredictability and many, many expenses.

Don't you think with pure greed you loose somethign.... humane?
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>>137565293
Okay, but all our emotions are animal, we are animals.

Why do you believe in God and practise Christianity? Because you want to be rewarded by God and live in paradise in Heaven.

This is not a pure "divine" feeling, it's animal and natural to want to live without having to work for anything and it's selfish.

Christians think themselves morally superior which I find hilarious as almost everything they do is out of greed and selfishness. Why would they help you, the only reason is because they expect a reward.
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>>137565865
We're animals. Smart fucking animals (relatively), but animals nonetheless. That's why some smart people have children -- not that you have to worry about that, anon.
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>>137565810
Bad genes are everywhere today, we removed the survival of the fittest, just look at the scrawny ass young people with green hair and piercings (trying to escape themselves)

3 or 4 generations of naturalselection would purge these types and make future generations less prone to sickness.

Its not "nice" but nature usually isnt
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>>137565313
If I was a loser that implies I lose constantly, but yes I believe that my ancestors lost in one way or another their wealth to someone else, hence why I don't live in my own private castle right now
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>>137565586

And why do you keep universities? You can buy a book and learn yourself, or look for information in the internet? Don't you think meeting other people is irrational?
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>>137565962
Helping is the right thing to do. We don't need to help to get points to go to heaven because we're already saved by Christ.
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