How do we reform the "Alt-Right," which is honestly a shitty name, into something more befitting a proper political force? The Tea Party, for example, acted similarly to the modern A-R, but with an actual name, flying under a common banner (that wasn't a swastika, which triggers hatred response in normies) and fairly clear political views.
As we stand now, people just see us as "Internet nazis" who just want to gas brown people because that's what CNN told them. Richard Spencer (whether you like him or not is irrelevant) is the new Hitler, and anyone who attends a protest is a brownshirt 2.0.
Reform, or more accurately, better organization, is necessary.
Be it something simple like the Nationalist Party, or a bit more verbose like the National Union Party, summons a much more neutral or even patriotic response in the masses, without the media connotations attached.
Make a new freedom of speech organization
>>137530109
>>137538779
Shilll detected.
This rally topped Berkeley and Portland.
We got everything right: the uniforms, torches, chants.
This whole country is ON EDGE because of us. We might cause a fucking civil war.
And we're just getting started.
Charlottesville, we're going back in September to make this one EVEN BIGGER.
Get ready!
>>137538980
The rally went well. We showed that we do have numbers, but the problem is the media had a field day with the event. Attaching a better name and picture helps attract normies and those already sympathetic, going full 14/88 straight away just triggers a fight or flight response in nigh everyone outside of /pol/.
>>137538980
>would you drop a nuke on every inch of american soil and wipe all american values and history off of the planet if it meant there were white people that benefitted from it
>yes of course!
That's you.
Canadian Here Ready to Rally Here. come on boys lets balkanize and from the ashes reform our great west
>>137538779
we are anonymous, whether you like it or not, and assignign labels to us will always be unfitting. Besides, we function best as an anonymous band of anformation sharers, not larping autists. We will change the perception of the world, if we constrain ourselves to a name or cause we become attackable
no sage
Basemenauts! The explorers of entire human failure and how to blame it on some group not even peripherally related to my horrible life, depression, misery and subsequent delusional anger.
>>137538779
The "Alt-right" was really termed the Alt- Media not that long ago.
The Gas Lighting propagandists had to change the name Alt-Media to Alt-Right to distract the masses from listening to alternative forms of media while simultaneously associating the now Alt-Right to extremist groups via the ADL & Southern Poverty Law Center.
Ultimate Fail.
>>137539163
you spelled jews wrong. white people don't dtugg stuff like that shill
>>137539392
3 years on /pol/ without being called a shill once. You broke my streak, you cunt.
The tea party wasn't full of spastic autist neets
>>137540941
it was full of angry, stereotypical, gun toting right wingers which was also easily spun in a negative light
we just have the challenge of 90% of our forces never mobilizing beyond their fridge
>>137538779
>we we we we
This is not a grassroots movement that can be hijacked.
You're on a discussion "forum", where users pretend they're jews setting up blowing vans.
>>137538779
Do we need a name at all?
Anonymous got plenty of shit done under "Anonymous," and that's a pretty fuckin' gay name.
>got, past tense, because Anonymous died long, long ago
"National Socialism" is pretty unwieldy, too. Sorry, nazibros.
Even if we did coin a new name, we wouldn't scream it from the rooftops, and it sure as fuck wouldn't come from 4/pol/.
>>137542363
Even just reorganizing and referring to the current Alt Right as "Nationalists" would be a far better groundwork, we can't for example, found a political party, as the "Alt Right" simply because it's unwieldy and already sounds pretty gay.
>>137538779
We as humans are so close to achieving immortality and one perfect, artificially created race we can all upload our minds into. Dont fuck this shit up for me because you want to play soldier. Go fight in the inevitable war with north korea if you want. I plan on being able to live forever by 2040 and i won't give that up to fight for something as stupid as race.
The Conservative Right
See >>137530109
Defenders of the Freedom of Speech
>>137538779
>the movement
Nigger youre on an imageboard
>>137542608
Not to mention the fact that if we got tied up in a civil war all our enemies would have a way to get ahead, attacking our allies or even us in the weakened state.
>>137542833
shuddup
we are legion
>>137542833
the imageboard is influential enough to justify CIA meddling
also the alt-right isn't an imageboard, we just comprise a large portion of it
>>137542608
Kill yourself elite filth. Nobody wants your baby's blood immortality microchip bullshit you can burn in hell all you want but don't bring us with you.
>>137538779
how about the pepe party?
>>137543728
Lol have fun being crushed under the might of industry and technology you autistic hippy naturalist fuck.
>>137538779
Just go back to being the tea party again you dumb niggers
>>137538779
Alt Tards
Tendie Terrorists
>>137543728
Ill never see hell ill be too busy using my infinite time to make earth better than heaven and make humans more powerful than god.
>>137538779
Identitarian Movement.
It's what we really are.
Distilled Human Embarrassment?
The DHE.
>>137543675
>we
>>137545056
/pol/ is fairly big
>>137538980
Spotted the stormnigger
>>137538779
How about Anti-Antifa/Anti-Left
If you have to make it more normie-friendly, you need better names. Nationalism is a bad word in the US, because there is just one word step to National-Socialism, and then you are back to being called Nazi. It has to be something weaker, like: "Our Survival" or something like that, something that talks clearly about principles.
>>137548078
calling them "stormweenies" and "stormniggers" doesn't defeat an argument backed up with evidence, refute their points instead of calling them out like they did something wrong by sharing facts
>>137548677
Anti-Communist would get far more approval than Anti-Left, which states you are against half the country.
>>137548788
Nationalism isn't an entirely poisoned well, and not everyone immediately draws a line between Nationalism and NatSoc, as Trump was openly nationalistic. I'm thinking along the lines of political parties, even, although that's far out of reach, naming yourself as did the Tea Party seems more reputable than running with something that could be a gang name. "Our Survival" sounds more like a group mantra than a group name, though, although it clearly describes the primary group motivator.
>>137538779
How much love did you receive as the tea party, idiots... nobody needs swastikas but you've been cowed again. You will never win anything if you keep backing down at criticism aimed at things you're not responsible for (the car of peace). The left is pushing at you again and you're not pushing back. You should--people lose thei confidence and they need it if you want to keep your country white (and by white I mean safe ffs!!!!!!!!!)
>>137548995
Good points there, I like the Anti-Commie angle
>>137538779
Drop the alt right
don't adopt a new "brand" that the media and feds can easily shit over and make seem like it's nazis.
>>137538779
>people just see us as "Internet nazis" who just want to gas brown people
And that's not what this board is?
>>137549582
>>137549061
The thing is- the Tea Party was never automatically seen as "that one Neo-Nazi group," it was always "those crazy Republicans with guns." I called my parents after Charlottesville and asked what they thought and they immediately both identified the right as the Nazis, simply because Facebook and whatever news they caught said so. The Gadsden has no negative connotations outside of the Tea Party itself and is generally seen as patriotic nowadays. The swastika, as I mentioned before, is the exact opposite, and seen as anti-American, anti-freedom, pro-gassing of minorities because Americans are retarded lemmings. Adopting our own identity frees us of the negative views attached to the swastika and confederacy, and forces the media to demonize a new group instead of just hitchhiking off of the bluepilling the school system did for them.
>>137549334
Although acting as independents works in theory, it just makes it that much easier for CIA niggers to infiltrate and give the media some nice shots of people wearing their cool Wehrmacht costume and sets us back to square one.
>>137549582
>>137549582
advertising that is bad press, people are a lot less convinced by pictures of online posts then they are by pictures of fat guys waving around his framed picture of Hitler and throwing up Roman salutes.
>>137548995
Here is the trick to pull: accuse every other group of being nationalist. If the word is poisoned, let it poison them all. E.g. "I oppose Black nationalists", "I oppose Mexican nationalists", "I oppose White coastal liberal nationalism that is racist against Whites from the interior", "I oppose Jewish ethno-nationalism". I you get smeared, you smear back.
>>137539552
I got called a shill by a gang the other night for saying how Jews pretend to be white to push anti white propaganda
>>137549959
The problem there is opposing Black nationalists or Mexican nationalists= automatically racist. Calling out Israel only gets you support from your own ingroup and somewhat from Antifa, somehow. I'm just saying a rebrand to something as simple as the "Nationalist Party" allows name flexibility to support openly fascist/protectionist policy while still plausibly acting in your namesake, while providing significantly more legitimacy than a disconnected name like the "Alt-Right."
Normal people are far more likely to approach a group that sounds like a legitimate political party with an open mind, as long as we maintain even just a facade of Pax Americana era patriotism, and even boomers can support someone whose party mantra is the preservation of America.
>>137542608
Not a singularityfag, but I can see something like this happening
>>137549899
All true but the swastika (as I vaguely implied) ALSO has nothing to do with you--same as the car that rammed the crowd. Nothing to do with you and your behavior should reflect that. Ideally, antifa should be placed in the same category as the neonazis but that would require the kind of positive (in this case) propaganda and finagling that I'm not sure the right is capable of... You are just too good for your own sake sometimes. Of course btfo the neonazis. They only belong on here.
>>137550596
The goal is to teach most Whites that other groups are acting in their nationalist self-interest and that it is hypocrisy to prevent Whites from doing the same. And imply that there are dark motives behind preventing Whites from doing it.
>>137549959
Siema. This here guy may have a point.
BTW, pushing White awareness developed very well as long as it was happening on the web and didn't go beyond Twitter trolling, because despite of what the snowflakes claim, to most people words are harmless (words directed at other people).
The alt-right runs into problems now because it moved to "street action". That's counterproductive. Physical actions don't bring in more followers. Only verbal recruitment does. Physical actions push recruitment back.
>>137551304
I think the thread is dead! Czesc i chwala, Rodaku!
>"If I determine the enemy's disposition of forces while I have no perceptible form, I can concentrate my forces while the enemy is fragmented. The pinnacle of military deployment approaches the formless: if it is formless, then even the deepest spy cannot discern it nor the wise make plans against it."
–Sun Tzu
If you want to win what's coming, you shouldn't put a name to what you do. Just do what's right. That's the ultimate defense against Alinsky tactics.
>>137551304
Physical actions are good at raising awareness as long as the media doesn't spin it, which isn't possible for us. That being said, stuff like the Vice interview where we had legitimate members of the group pulling fourteen guns out his ass does little to help. However, action and violence like we had going pre-election with random Trump supporters bloodied and women egged fostered support because we were the victims. Issue is now, we can't really be seen as victims because muh white males and the fact we are bigger than the libshits. Positive media coverage and a martyr like Heyes would turn everything around, but isn't possible.
>>137538779
with patience; if u dont identify with 'them' then ur not them, very simple;
the traitors of this country r in desperation after a century of try-harding & failing constantly -- theyre heads r already considered trophies, & most men/Americans know who they are because they gloat with arrogance in an age where information can b relayed instantaneously -- follow the $$ & b objective brother
>>137552129
:x
their*
:3
(i honestly didnt fact-check the pic i just uploaded.. its on a to-do list hurumph)
>>137552110
Yes, the media can spin violent events the way it wants. Just by not showing the violence from the left violent groups or portraying it as justifiable punishment against the "bad villains".
People will say that Rule 1 "who does violence is bad" but also Rule 2 "violence against bad people is good". So once you are put in the box of the bad people, you can't well defend yourself in public opinion and you can't claim to use Rule 1.
The problem for the Right will be the normalization of violence against the Right.