What do you think, pol, can we group all american presidents in the 9 ideologies in pic related? Explanations on next post.
Groups:
>Washingtonian
>Hamiltonian
>Jeffersonian
>Jacksonian
>Lincolnian
>Clevelandian
>Wilsonian
>Kennedy-ian
>Nixonian
>>137520035
>Washingtonian
Centered traditional liberal-conservative
>Hamiltonian
A pro-business, trade, and banking, the old version of a “neo-liberal” or moderate “neo-conservative,” like an old English Whig
>Jeffersonian
An old progressive “Virginia Dynasty” classical liberal or radical liberal; an ally of, but not the same as, the old social conservative confederate
>Jacksonian
Social conservative populists of the north and south, sometimes pro-business, sometimes more focused on social issues,; those who generally side with states’ rights populists but aren’t necessarily Bourbons
>Lincolnian
A northern or southern progressive social liberal; the Union that evolved from the Federalists and Whigs to become big state social progressive.
>Clevelandian
A libertarian without the social conservative aspects, a staunch classical liberal focused on business interests, not social issues like race; Lincoln went toward social liberalism, the ex-confederates toward social conservatism, but this group focused on industrialization in the Gilded Age and “small government” after
>Wilsonian
Mix of Jefferson, Cleveland Redeemers, Lincoln, and Hamilton… but the southern version (AKA southern pro-government liberals); the new “Virginia-like” mixed-market neo-southern-social-liberals; essentially bourbon liberals who don’t get put in other categories, like LBJ and Cleveland do
>Kennedy-ian
The Northern version of Wilsonian, the progressive neo-liberal mashup of the North
>Mix of Hamilton, Cleveland, and Jackson; classical liberals when it comes to taxes, neocon when it comes to trade, and a friend to the social conservatives when it comes to social issues; Modern American conservatives of the Bush era
>>137520602
the last one are the nixonians
And here is how the terms used are defined
> neocon (modern pro-business right, typically protectionists; like Bush 41), neoliberal (modern pro-trade and pro-mixed market left; like Bill Clinton), social conservative (pro-tradition and small government; like the Confederate South), social liberal (big government, big social justice left; like FDR), radical classical liberal (a focus on individual rights; like Jefferson), moderate classical liberal (more focused on trade than farmers; like Hamilton or the English Whigs), and libertarian (the Gilded Age pro-gold small government form of classical liberalism)
>>137520735
Source and more info
http://factmyth.com/comparing-the-political-ideology-of-presidents/
All the presidents
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States
>>137520035
how is LBJ like Lincoln or even Grant?
>>137521775
Here's what he says
>Big Government Social Liberal Southern Dixiecrat
>Interventionist, pro-big government, pro-civil rights, pro-social justice
>Some may consider Lincoln and FDR social liberal bullies, but LBJ made them look like puppy dogs. He used his southern charm to enact the great society programs. He became a liberal hero of sorts, despite his many Dixiecrat qualities. Democratic Presidents after his time often seemed LBJ-like.
>TIP: LBJ didn’t just pick up the Kennedy torch; he had always been a progressive Dixiecrat along with figures like Al Gore’s dad.
>“We have talked long enough in this country about equal rights. It is time now to write the next chapter – and to write it in the books of law.”
>>137520035
>9 ideologies
Like D&D's alignment system? Linconlnians are True Neutral?
>>137522232
you can decide this for yourself
>>137520035
>Obama
>like Kennedy
>Kennedy wanted to destroy CIA
>Obama is CIA lapdog
>>137522916
kennedy was shit m8, he just died too early to fuck things up