Enough of the swastika. It is time to adopt the flag.

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>>137511634
Ok. I'll drop the swastika if you can explain, in detail, what the Holy Swastika represents and why we should abandon it. If you can't, you have come unprepared and are simply a low IQ shill.

Go ahead.

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>MSM is going to...
So at which point do you imagine the (((MSM))) not pushing the (((Commie Leftist))) agenda?

Until they stop there will always be resistance to their (((agenda))).

>>137511634
Fucking around with nazi memes is fun and all and taking this shit too seriously irl isn't productive and more importantly doesn't make sense.

It just isn't burger history, you have your own, celebrate that, not a failed european regime that got btfo and lost everything.

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>>137512439
>It just isn't burger history

>>137512007

My God you're actually fucking retarded aren't you?

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we must unite under the Final Front

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>>137512906
maybe youd like to explain what the Swastika's meaning is and why we should abandon it? :) go ahead. i'll wait.

>>137512007
Beware of German autism/romanticism, these people had a serious death wish. Losing with your principles intact is still losing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTpS_eyDTzQ

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>>137512007
Before I confront Rockwell's use of the swastika, you have to look at the amount of time we have to fix the nation before it goes away forever. This is not a game of chicken. If we must choose between saving the aesthetic and the white race, Rockwell would have chosen the race. We are running on a sliver of time.

To address your point, I presume you're referring to the swastika as a purifying element. Only those that care only about the truth will follow it, because they will be hated for it no matter what. Thus, you can completely trust those that take it up in the public space unafraid of retaliation, since they place the truth above themselves and their safety. I understand this idea, but pragmatism must be considered. Rockwell's movement was run with far fewer people, in a much whiter nation, and at a time when media was at a premium. He had to draw attention from the major media. With the internet, we no longer need to, and our movement much larger. But we are running short on time. We can make the flag into the swastika, our own holy flag. The meaning we give the symbol is more important than the symbol we choose, don't you agree?

>>137512007
look at how it can be used against you. I'm being serious, what's your goal and how does the symbol help you?

>>137512007
doesn't matter what it means, it matters what normies see, 70 years worth of propaganda has convinced them to associate the swastika with the devil, they will never support it

>>137512007
Jesus Christ, you baby.

It's this simple: the broad cross-section of society sees it as a symbol of pure evil. Thus, if you want them to take you seriously so that you can effect any real change in the world, you should drop it.

If all you want is to be in your little secret club and wank each other off about how everything is wrong in the world, then go right ahead and keep using it and enjoy being marginalized your whole life.

Why celebrate weakness? The Nazis failed. Those who brandish their symbols continue to fail. Why choose failure?

>>137511634
fuck you nigger

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this looks much better

>>137512604
Yeah, and what happened to the Bund again? They went on to become a major force in American politics right?

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>>137511634
Seconded. If "we" are getting out from behind our keyboards, leave the nazi stuff in your meme folder. I really hope they learned that lesson after this. Also, get rid of Richard Spencer.

Good job, OP. If you're going to go for :image", then stack your protests/rallies deep with LARP'ers. You don't need brute force or anybody that can hurt far more than feelings. Go join the oathqueefers; they're a large group who will talk a mean game and do fuck all for their own nation. BONUS: they have really cool gear on their site that can camouflage Twinkie body styles.

inb4 "For Sale: AR-15. Never been fired. Only dropped once."

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>>137513186
maybe youd like to explain what the Swastika's meaning is and why we should abandon it? :) go ahead. i'll wait.

>>137513195
>Rockwell would have chosen the race. We are running on a sliver of time.
I agree with you and acknowledge the point. However, when you abandon the icons which represent your inner ideology, how long before you abandon the ideology itself?
>The meaning we give the symbol is more important than the symbol we choose, don't you agree?
I do agree. But the alternative seems to be what exactly? National Bolshevism? We can't even have "Americanism" because America is a puppet of Israel. Deep State runs the country, not Trump or any elected persons. So whats the value of not going full 1488?
>>137513207
the left call the right "nazis" anyway. even people who hate nazism are suddenly nazis. does it really matter what they say?
>>137513231
>70 years worth of propaganda has convinced them
I want to re-align their thinking and educate them. Why do you want to keep them stupid and mis-informed?
>>137513300
society already calls everything "nazism" so whats the problem if we are?
>>137513813
no. Jews created the "neo-nazi" and "white nationalist" movements and did away with actual national socialism in america.

Im willing to hear your arguments just try not to come across like a bunch of shills..?

>>137513046
It's a fucking symbol, retard. It doesn't have an objective meaning. And subjectively almost everybody thinks it represents murder and oppression.

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>>137511634
We should start appropriating American Indian flags and personnel..

Most of them supported the confederacy anyway

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>The Nazis failed.
The Nazi killed literally millions of (((Communist))) so they were far from a failure.

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>>137513308
>>137514093

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>>137514050
>It doesn't have an objective meaning
you lose

>>137511634
> it is our job to take back the American flag from leftist subversion
At least you see what's necessary for the play to work. You need to root out the leftists and make them loathe it for the flag to mean anything like that. Nobody uses the flag as their main icon, and those who try still aren't identified or remembered by it. It's too broad. All groups have their symbols, that's no coincidence. If you want to use the flag, as you implied, you first have to change the meaning of it.

>>137511634
You don't get to claim you love America and stand for American values if you are a member of the nazi party. They are mutually exclusive. Keep the swastika that way everyone can know you are a garbage human can handle freedom no better than a commie or Muslim.

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>>137513417
You're the nigger. There is a demographic train approaching our race, and you would have it stay on the tracks if it meant keeping the swastika. I love the aesthetic as much as you, but it must be put aside for more important things. Pragmatism must be considered. Do you value the symbols more than the virtues behind them? And you call me the nigger. Take up the flag and change the meaning behind it. In your bones you know I'm right. Which do you value more, the symbol or your people?

>>137511634
This is smart. Go ahead and chant original heartfelt chants ( not copied from 30s Germany ) and wave the flag. Be a Nazi if you want, but wave your own flag and have original slogans.

What could be more Nationalistic than your own flag?

>>137513941
Not an argument. Oafkeepers are fags because they'll cuck out on all the things without which the constitution is just paper, not because they won't wear Nazi memorabilia.

>>137513872
hopefully this event will get rid of the goofy stuff (larping, shields and stickmen) and actually get most to focus on improving ourselves or something

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>>137511634

No this will do just fine. America died. Did you not notice?

>>137511634
The founders would not have stood side by side with neo nazis. It's not just about the imagery. It's about them being there at all.

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>>137513046

Its a symbol of peace, and the Nazis would slant or reverse it. The Real swastika is a symbol of peace, and the one adopted by the Nazis was the opposite of such.

>>137514009
The problem is that when the left calls someone a Nazi it is usually unfounded and people realize that and call the media out, once you start taking out the swastika like an autist, you prove their point and most people turn away.

>>137514009
>does it really matter what they say?
it doesn't, and it actually works against them if there aren't people out putting on a show for them to run on tv/social media 24/7

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>>137514093
And yet that wasn't good enough, was it?

>>137512007
>>137514009
Controlled opposition or useful idiot

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>>137513231
Maybe we should go back to the Ross flag as a symbol of a time when we were still a white, unkiked nation.

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>>137512007

>>137514732
>The founders would not have stood side by side with neo nazis

Are you legit retarded?

The founders were explicit white nationalists.

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>>137511634

Why not the hammer and sickle?

It actually represents workers and farmers. Nearly all of whom are white. And we all stand together as equals.

This would ruin the left. Or at least extremely frustrate.

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>>137514999
It will always be good enough, they died like heroes.

>>137512007
>Ok. I'll drop the swastika if you can explain, in detail, what the Holy Swastika represents and why we should abandon it. If you can't, you have come unprepared and are simply a low IQ shill.

You are literally prioritizing that symbol over your people. You can't win using the swastika everywhere. Keep it to yourself. It serves no utility to White people these days. You are only hurting your cause. You are letting the Marxists erase White people just because you are obsessed about an ancient symbol. Sad!

>>137514079
this is a whole new level of cuckoldry

i hate americans

>>137515043
wave the American flag as it is, its just as effective to them.

>>137515321
This.
join the FF

>>137512913

>>137512367
You forgot to switch your flag

>>137511634
The flag is not an article of clothing.

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>>137514999
Who said they finished the job? They just got a good head start.

>>137515140
>Founding Fathers form break away government from government in which they have no representation
>the first form of government was so weak that it had to be reformed to stay alive
>DUDE THEY WOULD HAVE SIDED WITH THE AUTHORITARIANS

Are you fucking for real?

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>>137514009
I am not asking you to change your politics or your ideals, just the symbol and name. At every rally from here on out the only flag that should fly is the American one. If you watch the footage from the rally, neither side is flying the American flag at all. Nearly every single flag is a fringe group flag. If we fly the adopt American one, it makes the left the abandon the symbol. We must be the ones defending the lost true values of the nation, the ones our founders would have advocated for.

No more blood and soil, instead our country tis of thee, sweet land of liberty.
No more swastikas or sieg heils, instead stars and bars.
We cannot wish for a past aesthetic, we must reconquer the current one from the leftist subversion.

>>137515140
neo nazis != white nationalists you legit retard. The founders were pro democracy.

Why can't we make use of the black sun? Is that commonly associated with Naziism? Realistically though I support using the American flag for any and all right wing movements.

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Hopefully the movement gets it's shit together. The race issues are important but I don't want anything to do with the cringey larping.

>>137514549
It would still be wise to have shields considering the amount of bricks and rocks antifa will throw. They just need to adopt a typical clear riot shield or something respectable instead of painted boards.

>>137514795
incorrect. there is no one right way to draw the swastika.
>pic related

>>137514913
agreed. so lets get rid of the altright and be natsocs like it was meant to be?

>>137515016
debate me or keep crying rabbi

>>137515080
yes. this comes down to "the west has been brainwashed.. therefore.. we cant use our symbols." stop cucking. why not re-educate the masses? why do you want them to remain brainwashed?

Look you shill niggers: i am willing to compromise. I'm willing to destroy the altright with you and support the building up of something new. But i need to know what the agenda and plot is otherwise imma take all of you down too at the first sign of your rising. if this is to spread NAZBOL, i need you to know its even worse than how bad you think Nazism is.

>>137515321
marxists have said the swastika is a racist symbol. so by not using it because of marxist lies.. we will somehow win? explain that one to me.

>>137515638
this is fair and reasonable. what happens when one of you is asked if you're nazis? this will certainly be asked. will you throw natsoc under the bus like Spencer has or what will you say? how to handle this awkward situation?

>>137511634
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/14/gingrich-on-charlottesville-reaction-anti-trump-movement-will-never-ever-be-satisfied.html

>>137513046
>>137512007
are you autistic anon?

>>137512007
Maybe you should explain why your whole movement has to be bound to a single icon and can't change for the better when it's CLEARLY holding them back?

I've long been tired of the retarded cult of worship of Nazis people have on here, it isn't even intelligent, it's just mindless "MUH HITLER" and it's really embarrassing. I support a lot of "right wing" ideals, and probably always will, but by adhering so closely to Nazi iconography you hold any movement back from making any progress and only attracts the most unattractive and cringeworthy of followers. National Socialism will remain dead as long as it is just Naziboos playing pretend and doesn't even attempt to modernise its image.

It's like willingly making yourself retarded so if someone calls you out on being retarded you can claim that you are.

>>137511634
NORTH KOREA MOVES MISSILES INTO POSITION LIKE THE ONE LARPER CLAIMED
>>137515570
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>>137515986
engage me in discussion or dont waste the (you)

The American flag is always under attack for being racist so it's just swapping one thing for another.

>>137514795
There is no such thing as "the swastika" -- many forms of swastikas have appeared in many cultures during different periods.
The oldest swastika ever found is in Ukraine and is about 10000+ years old, so no the swastiska isn't a buddhist heritage,
it's european as fuck.

>>137515321
Exactly, image is everything. That symbol is done. Take the American flag. In Canada, the left has completely "captured the flag", to be patriotic here means you support the degeneracy and all the crap you see happening up.

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>>137515625
The individual creates the ultimate expression of Freedom and Reason through joining with the State. Fascism is the final evolution of Freedom.

>>137511634
It's fun to larp, but if you are American, that flag should always remain supreme.

>>137515638
The right wins with the American flag by default because the left despises the US flag and will only carry one to burn it.
The right loves the flag.
Carry the American flag and let the media call us racists all day long while the normies think they're assholes for Implying their beloved symbol is some kind of white supremacy symbol.

>>137512007

Holy swastika represent "I was facefucked by the whole world, thinking I was that edgy".

Any nazi pandering is either false flag or complete, absolute retardeness. You all morons cite Bezmienov, and don give a thought about what he is talking and why it's so powerful. You are victim of 12 level chess game, and your answer is cosplay of biggest losers in a world history.

Stars and Stripes is flying high, and always be. Every shitskin burning, or library urinating makes it stronger symbol.

I agree with OP so fucking much. Swastika is fucking larping man it's so fucking cringeworthy even if you are a legit ethnonationalist. The swastika is just so fucking CONTINENTAL. The USA is an anglo, western, white nation and of all fucking people we don't need to draw on FOREIGN SYMBOLISM to represent pro-white ideology, especially co-opted from a country that declared war on us.

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>>137515990
>when it's CLEARLY holding them back?

because the only negative association with the swastika as a symbol or National Socialism as a movement is based in Jewish lie. I'll bet you've never read a single book of National Socialist ideology. I bet you have no idea what its about and I EVEN bet I could turn you into a NatSoc right here in this thread. The only negativity surrounding the two hinges on the belief that the Holocaust happened and Nazis are evil.

protip: it didnt

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It's a holy symbol indeed

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>>137516212
This

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>>137516245
>"I was facefucked by the whole world, thinking I was that edgy".
post yfw realizing Hitler was the first person to actually fight what we today call Globalism

>>137515625
>Founding Fathers form break away government from government in which they have no representation
Almost as if they valued autonomy. I'm sure they would have shied away from using any "authoritarian" means by which to secure it. Oh, right, the revolution. Well there goes that theory.

>>137516245

Libtard. Fuck.

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>>137515471
Our flag *should* be enough to trigger them

>>137515625
The founders never had to deal with invading communists. In principle they were white nationalists, and didn't differ from the German national socialists on much of anything.

>>137515686
If you are white and don't advocate suicide you are called a nazi

>>137515933
>get rid of the altright and be natsocs
Completely agree, just don't use that symbol. Use the stars and stripes.

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>>137512007
This is actually a pretty good quote and the reason I'm all for it. I don't want cuckservatives from T_D to be associated with me, they are beyond cringeworthy and do not represent me in any way. I don't want to see their silly overused memes, I don't want to talk to them nor do I want to be a part of their virtue signalling. I only care about Trump as long as he is useful, and he is certainly not any "God Emperor" to me.

At the end of the day the posters at the the_donald are pure stage 3 cancer that should be removed before they take all of us down.

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>>137511634

not gonna go anywhere until you accept minorities

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>>137512906
Every single shill, and every single leftist drone in every thread for the past several months just repeats this over and over

>You're a retard
>You're retarded
>omg you're just retarded

Oh my god, like I can't even, you're just so retarded. Your beliefs are so retarded, I mean they would be so easy to disprove and cast aside because you're retarded, but I'm not going to do that because you're a retard

>>137514345
Goodness you're a moron. It doesn't matter what the "true meaning" is. What matters is its perception by the masses. You're clearly autistic or trying to derail movements.

>>137516326
You are proving my point. It isn't about being right, it's about knowing how to play the field and change peoples minds so they support you rather than just playing Naziboo all day and jerking off over the Swastika.

National Socialism needs to move forwards rather than focussing on nothing but the Nazis and Nazi imagery, doing so is what is really holding it back from moving forward.

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>>137516196

>slavery is the ultimate freedom

>>137516489
>If you are white and don't advocate suicide you are called a nazi
I'm talking about literal neo nazis that were at the rally in large numbers.

>>137515933
They will say the damned truth.
"We are American!!!!!"
"We support FREEDOM and LIBERTY."

>>137514009
Nazis have a right to free speech and association and must be defended. That is fine. But the largest pro-White movement in the current era needs to be wide spread enough to appeal to normies and be relevant without 1488 purity spiraling.

>>137512007
I've read This Time The World by George Lincoln Rockwell
He was right on some things and wrong on others.
Mainly that you cannot make Fascism into a globlal unification under one banner.
It must be federated tribalism, not Globalism, otherwise you miss the point of Fascism. NATIONAL.
Are you going to listen to a man who literally prayed to Hitler?

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>>137511634
>implying I have to adopt something that's been mine since birth

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>>137516203
Means nothing to me when I see spics n nigs wear American flag as clothes and white SJWs burning the flag. I choose the Nazi flag since it represents more of my ideals at this point.

GTKRWN

>>137512007
I bet you voted clinton. The swastika promotes leftists values thousands of times more than right wing values

>>137515933
>stop cucking. why not re-educate the masses?
This is a shill, boys. Take careful note of how improperly he picks his arguments.

Be INCOGNITO.

>>137516415

No. Globalism was born as consiquense of fighting him. There was nothing "global" prior to 1939. There was no Goldman or City as we know them today. And united nation, EU, IMF - all of this is a result of this asshole loser actions.

>>137511634

/pol/ logic:
> Americans hate nazis waving nazi flags
> if nazis fly American flags, Americans will like Nazi.
> suck it Libs.

Expect for the Libs pointing out you're still nazis. which Americans hate.

>>137516646
Let me know when the hammer and sickle is no longer present in public or in any public institution. Then I'll start to give a shit. The "masses" are fucking worthless, they will turn on you and render you into hamburger meat if the media tells them they should do so.

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>>137515933
I will tell them that I am an American, and that if they disagree with me, then they are anti-American and should leave the nation. While this is simpleminded, it works, and 60 years of leftist subversion proves it. Every time you turn on the news, the left is claiming that Trump is unAmerican. That multiculturalism is American, that closing the borders is unAmerican. It is a simple formula for us to use, and the left has proven is works. If they are against us, then they have the wrong definition of America.

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>Current American flag
>Any past version of the flag
>And regimental flags from the revolutionary war
>Any proposed versions of the flag
>Any state flags
>Any Join or Die/Don't tread on me flags
>NO ACW flags under ANY circumstances, that includes any regimental flags and the Bonnie Blue Flag
Just keep it American and keep away from the ACW and all should be good.

>>137511634
been trying to tell you fucking retards this for a year...

>>137513046
So we keep a few 14/88ers happy, but lose a huge voting block due to extremely poor optics. How is this a good strategy?

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>>137516514
when a CNN reporter asks one of us "are you nazis" what do you say then?

>>137516568
heil hitler and stuff m8

>>137516646
>What matters is its perception by the masses.
The CIA changed the perception of the masses to associate the swastika with evil. Why cant we simply change it back? Or do you prefer people remain stupid and misled?

>>137516653
what does national socialism "moving forward" look like? whats the ideology called?
>inb4 nazbol

>>137516737
so theyll avoid the question and get called out for it? if theyre natsocs but pretending not to be, they are lying. And lying is never a winning strategy.

>>137516796
there are no messiahs but Jesus and Hitler.
rockwell is an inspiration but i disagree with some of his teachings too.
>Mainly that you cannot make Fascism into a globlal unification under one banner.
im just trying to find out what you goys are going to replace natsoc with

>>137516853
>The swastika promotes leftists values
like what exactly? :)

>>137512406
God damn that's dank

>>137516853
NOO.... YOU ARE THE FASCIST!

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>>137511634
how about something like this

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>>137516386

>>137516956
The masses are what put your plan into action. Without it you're just some autist with a limp dick in his hand.

Good job not understanding what makes shit tick.

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>>137516937
>there was nothing "global" prior to 1939
pic related. i think theres a lot about Globalism you guise dont realize and should be told..

>>137517217
So I guess we should drop Ethnonationalism as well because muh votes?

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What does /pol/ have?
What does every normie want?
Learn what the media has been teaching us!

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>>137515778
All of these symbols are associated with Nazism. The whole point is to wave the flag until it suits our meaning. We will forcibly change it's meaning, no longer needing to hide our aesthetic. Every time a communist sees an American flag, I want them to assume that person stands for ideals they hate. The flag means whatever the people who stand behind it say it means.

>>137517217
Yes. Because NOTHIING is more important than MY FEELINGS.

>>137516975
what are we calling this new approach then?

>>137517217
>poor optics
why cant we re-educate the people? why should we allow them to remain deceived? i dont understand this..

>>137516734
The point is you're going to be called a Nazi regardless of what you do

I guess those guys could stay home next time or not have natsoc paraphernalia

I don't know if it will do any good since they are still white people and are still showing non-leftist beliefs. They'll still get called nazis.

>>137516844
They wear it like poor people wear tony the tiger shirts. When every white male is wearing USA, they'll start to disown the flag and centrists will notice. Look at kapernick, he's poison now.

>>137511634
First you take our flag. Than you take our ideals. Fuck you op.
Drop the snek flags
Drop the yellow black flags
Drop the kekistani flags
And then its fair to drop the nazi flag.
Those flags are equally or more repulsive since normies dont know what they mean and the MSM says it means Racism

>>137513872
This. More people will feel comfortable putting their face on something without the Nazi symbols even if the theme is the same.

Why have them around so people can get a photo of people's face with a swastika or black sun behind it and dox them to their boss?

Doxing is going to happen anyway, but there's no plausible deniability or room to explain with a swastika or white supremecist symbol.

I don't mean changing a bit of the sentiment or purpose, just the fucking symbols.

Take the flag and make it represent what you have to say too. And say what you mean without the baggage from the 30s

If you want to use the swastika use it anonymously online. In about 100 years it'll be a respectable symbol once again.

>>137517395
Just leave the Nazi flags at home. It's not that hard to understand this ffs.

>>137511634
I agree, plenty of our Presidents were White Christians and didn't see wogs as equals.
And to all the autistic weebs who don't get it; Hitler is Satan to normies and anyway you can't copy paste one national Fascism to another so it's a fools errand even trying to normalize the Swastika. Own the American flag and you own the narrative, Trump is in office, how can you not see the best opportunity on a silver platter right in front of you? If normies get involved in mass, they'll see the anti-white hate from kikes, you can point out the ((())) without Roman salutes faggotry.

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>>137517321
or maybe this

>>137517282
I'm talking it about actually becoming a larger movement that isn't basement dwellers who are permanently upset that the Axis lost WW2. Keep the ideology the same but move forwards from the obsession with Nazi Germany and its imagery, and make it easier for people to get onboard with.

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>>137517876
>white supremecist symbol
jew detected

>>137517282
>what do you say
I'd say "I'm American". Now what can they say to you?

>>137515933
Jesus Christ on a cross you guys are intractable.
This is about optics and propaganda, not trying to resurrect a dead man's political party.
Learn to be more machavellian, even Hitler learned that force was less effective than politics.
You guys always say "they'll call is nazis no matter what", which is true.
So, we either prove them right and scare away the normies with the very symbols they've been programmed to fear and hate,

Or

We manipulate that behavior (that they always call us nazis, no matter what) and turn it around on them by waving American flags and acting like patriots, so when the media inevitably calls us "nazis" they look like asshole morons and normies take our side simply because they like the people who wave the flag over those who burn it.

>>137511634
>retards still think we can win this war through dumbing down our movement to appeal to normies
Sage and hide folks. Sage and hide.

>>137517481
cool ass car

>>137517282
You can't be American and that too?
Freedom of speech doesn't mean you're forced to speak. The issue, the real one is defense of our home and its traditions and beautiful, tragic, and amazing history.
If it's really about race, then stay a nazi and die one. True Americans will save it when the white fool becomes extinct in vain.

>>137518005
projecting again...

>>137517658
Do you literally not understand the difference between being called a Nazi and literally declaring yourself to be one in front of God and everyone?
These demonstrations are theater for the masses.
I don't believe you are actually this retarded. Must be a shill. There is no dumber strategic move than trotting out a Nazi flag in a public demo. None. It'd be better if you killed a person.

>>137517891
Just stop. They will fly the flag of their choice. The most autoritarian people on this board are wearing snake flags or usa flags.
Makes the noggin start foggin

>>137511634
Nothing gets a normie riled up more than a flag burning since they're usually somewhat promilitary.

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>>137516630

This. Shills are easily disarmed because of their obvious lack of knowledge on any subject they're shilling.

>>137517322
Yes, It's memetic magic

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>>137513195
>>137514456
>>137515638
>>137516975
>>137517481

>>137517961
ok. so whats the new movement called? who is leading it?

>>137518010
>tonight at 7: anon refuses to denounce neo-nazism and hitler

>>137518035
ok. so whats the new movement called? who is leading it?

>>137518118
white supremacy is CIA propaganda to discredit white nationalism. use your brain.

>>137517961
This.
Nazi iconography is the cursed sword of propaganda. It's the most powerful weapon when triggering lefties no doubt, but it ultimately kills you.

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>>137512913
>>137513604
>>137514456
>>137514559
>>137515043
>>137516489
Wrong direction, we need to have many flags. With the primary being the American flag, show that there are people from every state, with different heritages, all using AMERICAN symbols, all coming under the banner of Old Glory. Just keep it American and manly on a state level. No ACW shit and no foreign shit. Pic relates is a good flag to use.

>>137518048
you sure as shit aren't going to win it being a nazi larper. Look at identity evropa and the identitarians in europe that is the direction we need to move using the american flag. America for americans and once we secure our nation start banding whites together globally via the lamda and identitarian movement

This is a perfect opportunity to false flag a "takeover" and the modify the message to something more "socially acceptable". I know, but it's required for recruitment and re-education.

>>137516853
go back to plebbit, newfag

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>>137518065
Go back to Red dit.

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>>137518140
>not understand the difference between being called a Nazi and literally declaring yourself to be one in front of God and everyone?

The media/normies will still treat you same regardless, assuming your message is "I don't want to kill myself for being born white"

Just being white and not wanting to be "racially cleansed" means you already have all the qualifications of a "nazi". I remember when Bush was called a Nazi 24/7 and he was about as cucked as you can possibly be.

>>137517481
Fuck yeah!

>>137518506
>Look at identity evropa and the identitarians in europe that is the direction we need to move using the american flag.
theyre all scam artists tho! LOLOL how many refugees have they stopped despite raising over 100k? NONE. plus theyre all satanists. LITERAL satanists.

you should lurk moar before posting.

>>137518441
The idea is to trigger lefties without triggering 90+ percent of the population.
>>137516630
Wow, when I say certain things people jump all over me and call me a retard. Must be a conspiracy.

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>>137511634
bump for truth

Nazis are either LARPers or retarded. They are much better than antifa, though.

>>137517282
All the same economic and policy of National Socialism, just call it National Capitalism and use the American flag not some bullshit that puts you on the outside of the average normies white right winger. No tea party Gadsden or anything else, American flag and only American flag. Trump is in the WH, these autists don't get it, don't play outsider revolutionary. Use our own history as Americans to make the points.

>>137518436
It doesn't exist because it's being held back by retards as I've said about 5 times. It's a simple case of rebranding rather than letting the movement you stand behind so adamantly wither on the vine.

>>137516196

What kind of shoes were those?

>>137517902
Yeah, this pretty much. Nothing wrong with American flags and MAGA hats. I just love how the lefties have to hate on making our country great again. The same faggots railing against our "corrupt system" turn around and in the same breath claim our country is already great. It's gotta be some crazy cognitive dissonance in there, if they're thinking at all.

>>137518624
They called him a Nazi and it didn't stick with anyone but the extreme left. If he Sieg Heiled he'd have lost support instantly.
This is what you're not getting. This is the cognitive malfunction I'm trying to draw attention to.

>>137518436
??? Whatever.. Capture the flag and it's the only symbol you need.

>>137511634
I agree with you, OP.
I also agree with the guy on all the meme pages that keeps talking about how the real right-wing thing to do would be to support taking down statues against the Union. Co-opt the enthusiasm around this iconoclasm and promote a subtle message of nationalism.
That's the thing. We need to be more subtle.

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BURN IN HELL KIKES

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>>137517542
True Americas? Real Americans? American Nationalism? Start by wearing around the flag proudly and push your own beliefs. Then at any rallies wear the flag while holding to the same beliefs you do here. The meaning behind the flag will change as the people behind it change. I'm going to put a discord together around this idea.

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>>137516630
Leftists unironically think social censure is more powerful than facts.

They project their cowardice onto everyone, and figure just calling you names enough will scare you into submission.

>>137518065
>If it's really about race
It's about birthright. One people, one nation. Free, sovereign, autonomous.
>True Americans will save it when the white fool becomes extinct in vain.
Mexicans will recreate Mexico.

>>137511634
KILL ALL NAZIS

>>137512406
FLAG KEK

>>137511634
>we are trying to appeal to the sleeping normal whites
Are you referring to the sleeping normal whites who are being called Nazis every day by the left? Are those the whites of which you are speaking?
There is only one defense against being called these names: ADOPT THEM.
"What are you, a racist Nazi?" (Waits for you to capitulate in fear.)
Yes, I'm a fucking racist Nazi!

>>137511634

Absolutely agree. If you are a nationalist there is only one fucking flag that you should ever wave, and it doesn't belong to a dead and buried state.

>>137518818
capitalism.. where 14 yr old girls with big tits become millionaires and war veterans go hungry and homeless.

are 'avin a giggle m8?

>>137518922
>It doesn't exist because it's being held back by retards
is there a think-tank chat or forum setup yet? im interested in hearing more about the concept

>>137518987
I know. But the difference between the American flag and the NatSoc flag is that the American system can be corrupted, subverted and destroyed. NatSoc cannot be. Jews have to mimic natsoc and create other movements, like Neo-Nazism and White Nationalism, because NatSoc was designed to be impervious to corruption. So by saying, "lets abandon it" you raise a huge red flag.

>>137519096
>American Nationalism?
how can this term be used to spread awareness about white genocide, or will "American Nationalism" only encourage civic nationalism?

>>137519110
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP

>>137518987
I wonder if there will be any rallies or whatever with the discipline to make the flag their only symbol.

>>137518679
I've been here for quite some time, we don't need to align with them per se but they're message and ideals have potential to appeal to the masses as opposed to just stormfags like this place does. We use that sort of imagery and rhetoric as opposed to the "gas the kikes race war now! 1488 nazi salute in public!" memes that were spouted this weekend to get more people on our side that will actually show up to future events. We continue the hardcore red pills here but tone down public propaganda to something a normal person won't be disgusted by.

>>137517282
>like which exactly
All the ones being pushed by the commies since you let them win
>>137517314
WHATEVER YOU SAY, COMRADE
>>137518583
"Oh no he made me feel uncomfortable about being retarded"

>>137518704
Exactly.
That's why using nazi memes online while anonymous works so well. It makes them look crazy as they chase ghosts and point at invisible nazis.
But in public, it's imperative that we ensure the optics are perfect.
Drive them to the point of madness online, then show up as flag waving American patriots.
All that madness, all that insanity we get boiling in their minds will cause them to lash out, with insanity, and we win the propaganda battle each and every time.

>>137518458
Stop with the damn obscure flag clusterfuck, stop clucking the American flag, own it.

>>137511634
While your at it, drop the leftist policies and the racial politics, embrace the core principles of the constitution and become Americanized.

>>137519556
Come back to the real world. No more larping and idealistic escapism.

>>137512604
let's not forget that those in america who adopted the swastika were of german communities that refused to assimilate to the distinctly english-dutch-common-law culture on which the country was founded. ben franklin was concerned about these kraut immigrants setting up enclaves throughout the country, and even to this day you find towns across america with german street signs. absolutely analogous to the spics refusing to learn english ("press 2 for mexican!")

tl;dr fucking dirty kraut immigrants can fuck off right back to germany and take that failed fucking symbol with them. get the fuck out of my USA.

>>137518990
>subtlety
cui bono
As long as you seek to be effective subtlety is out of the picture and the best disguise you've got is excuses. Sooner or later you'll have to dig your heels in and lay claim to what's yours; your country. Else you lose it.

>>137519556
It's a meme name, just like National SOCIALISM, the ideology is the same in a different package. Remember, appeal to Trump voters.

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>>137519602
I understand the appeal and its a good approach. But do you understand the danger of having the movement co-opted by Jews and leftists and turned "anti-nazi" by taking this approach?

>>137519676
>i cant name a single leftist ideal nazism promotes because im just an uneducated shill LOL fuck nazis!!!!
k

>>137519894
theres too many pitfalls with your approach which must be fixed before anyone will back it. by distancing yourself from NatSoc you imply theres a reason to do so, which implies NatSoc is somehow bad or wrong, which again opens the door for infiltration and subversion. its a nice idea but has to be thought out more.

>>137520048
pic related

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>>137519894
This was the Aryan world before it was destroyed by international Jewry

>>137519711
The memes were fantastic when they were swirling in ironic detachment and used primarily for their shock value. Then a bunch of dullards and underage got a hold of them and went spastic.
It's really no different than the life cycle of any other meme. We're in the 9gag phase of Nazism.

>>137518948
>anyone but the extreme left.

But the extreme left runs the media

I get your point that waving an American flag is better, but in the end, you're still a "nazi" because you're white. That's the society we live in.

Enough people have lived in that society that they don't care anymore. Maybe they should care and be more subtle. I don't know.

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>>137520131
>Remember, appeal to Trump voters.
yeah i gotcha...but im still not being told with this new approach or political system is called...

im just waiting for one of you to say, "nazbol" so i can fuck off outta this thread xD

>>137520404
You can fuck off anyway for tripfagging.

>>137519110
The sad part is they are correct. No one wants to be on the losing side, and having control of the media generates that narrative. No one wants to be a living caricature, the media makes that perception happen. etc etc.

>>137519711
Lol except you forgot one little detail. Nazis and the KKK will always follow and ruin it.

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>>137519556
Of course it will, because it will stand for our ideals. If you are not concerned about white genocide, then you must not be an American. Same goes for every other issue we currently stand for. The left instantly becomes anti-American, and we the true patriots. The symbol that stands for good in the country can be taken back by changing the definition of good.

>>137514549
Yeah, the hand-made shields are cringy as fuck. You carry rifles or nothing at all.

>>137511634
The problem his that half these fags actually believe in fascism and natsoc. This is a non starter for me. And i don't follow leaders.

>>137520154
m8 the jews are already playing white nationalist groups like a fiddle with fbi informants and using them to show up to events to turn the masses against what we stand for. The jews will infiltrate no matter what. We need to draw in a bunch of useful idiots as boots on the ground and other internet presence like T_Donald and use /pol/ as the brainchild for memeing and planning things that will be useful and find a way to pass that on to the useful idiots without them flooding here.

>>137511634
>Reminder
Humanity doesn't have a race problem, it has a nigger and kike problem. Now, those words are offensive to some, but it is time to redefine them. A nigger is best defined by the MLK Boondocks episode, (they're living contradictions, full of unfulfilled ambitions, watch and wane, love to complain, love to hear themselves talk, but hate to explain, love being another man's judge and jury, procrastinate until it's time to worry, love to be late,but hate to hurry). Now this can mean anybody can fall into this category, hence the term wigger was coined to describe the white version, but it can be anybody. This problem can be solved by addressing the next problem, kikes. Kikes are mystic, kabalist, hasidic, talmud practicing, pharisee and synagogue of satan worshipping jews. These are the subversive types that promote degeneracy in pop culture and rule by diving and conquering. The more we start to address and expose these types of kikes, the more likely we'll stop infighting and take back control from these subversive types. Don't fall for their tricks, a race war is part of (((their))) plan.

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>>137520630
cry harder commie

>>137520756
>>137520914
is there a think-tank setup yet?

>>137511634
They already hate the flag, dumb idea

>>137512007
>Ok. I'll drop the swastika if you can explain, in detail, what the Holy Swastika represents and why we should abandon it. If you can't, you have come unprepared and are simply a low IQ shill.
This type of fucking arrogance is one reason I hate these fags

>>137520756
>If you are not concerned about white genocide, then you must not be an American.

So white nationalism? You already lost then. Good job.

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>>137520950
>Humanity doesn't have a race problem

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I stole this from another thread:

>The Nazi-flag wavers should have never been allowed in. Never. Not because they're Nazis, not because I disagree with NatSoc (I don't), but because that flag provides an absolute feeding frenzy to libshit media which then gives them leverage to pressure the weaker elements of the Right to do whatever they want. Which is precisely what happened.

>Guaranteed if everyone at Unite the Right had American flags, you wouldn't see Sessions and Ted Cruz and those types cucking out on Twitter. The Alt-Right isn't going to take off unless they stop being turbo-edge and start focusing on specific areas with professionalism and expertise.

>It's disappointing because I agree with their message, but they're just a fucking mob right now.

Look how easy it is to use this symbol to destroy you. It was a complete set up.

>>137517498
This isn't about feelings anon, it's about growing our base and securing voters. I am not asking you to stop being a NatSoc, just understand that normies IRL are programmed to hate Nazi imagery. We can red pill new members on stuff like this later.

>>137512007
I don't care what you do but Americans waving Nazi relics is foolish unless they've never heard of WW2. We didn't end them bc of 60 gorillion, that's propaganda that came later. That's the LARP: hating Jews and blacks for personal reasons disguised as "politics" is something even facebook grandmas see through. The UTR rally was a counterproductive joke against the conservative right. Everyone sees that but neo-nazis.

>>137521073
if youre gonna say to do something but cant give a decent reason why... who is gonna listen? dont be mad at me the only thing you know about nazism is what you saw in Schindler's List.

>>137521186
>We didn't end them bc of 60 gorillion, that's propaganda that came later.
pic post here >>137516415

>>137513231
>doesn't matter what it means, it matters what normies see, 70 years worth of propaganda has convinced them to associate the swastika with the devil, they will never support it
It matters to these fags cause they actually worship Hitler and Nazis... and thier (((red pills))) are nothing but confirmation bias.

>>137514549
Antifa/BLM were throwing bottles filled with cement... Police stood down and even barred people from entering the park. People need to protect themselves.

>>137513604
This it tattooed on my arm.

>>137511634
No you fucking kike.
This is how they derailed the Tea Party and the Ron Paul revolution, too. (okay, Ron Paul derailed himself.)
Heil Hitler!

>>137521367
what if i have a strategy to unite National Socialism with Americanism while saving the Jews at the same time from both persecution by Aryans AND Israel (its coming)??

>>137521402
I see nothing wrong with killing nazi though
>>137521350
Schindlers list made a sad. Nazis are evilm

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>>137514559
>No this will do just fine. America died. Did you not notice?
God you're really sick

Of course you are correct OP but at the end of the day Natsoc is filled with losers who are too busy whining about the Jews to drown the fact that they are failures in life. Flying the swastika means more to most of these losers then the movement of Natsoc itself. They have fetished a meaningless symbol and will never let it go.

>>137511634
This, unfortunately. It's not worth feeling good about larping if you're going to kill the movement. Who exactly are you guys appealing to with swastikas that isn't already on our side?

>>137514009
Holy shit what a retarded sperg. Norms don't like nazi larpers retard. If that simple. Now stop crying like a kid who got his lollipop taken away.

Nazi flags are to the alt-right as crack is to niggers in the 1980s. It's garbage brought into your world in order to destroy you. For so long as you bounce on your boy Hitler's dick, your dreams shall be kept at bay. The 3edgy5me association with NatSoc - literal losers! losers in the most literal sense! - shall be your downfall. Not in an interesting or explosive way. Just in a way that makes people go "oh, wait, those guys are Neo-Nazis? Who gives a shit."

>>137521402
No, I get all that. It's totally unfair but again its just optics. Antifa looked like the thugs. Now they can frame it as "they came looking for a fight".

>>137520756
But if you listen to (((Mike Enoch))) fans they'll tell you taking back a foreign political symbol ingrained in the public mind as evil/un-American is better than taking back our own damn symbols and flag. We have the fasces on many American icons, literal meaning of "Out of Many, One" is Fascist. Stop marching around with FBI infiltrators and kikes, playtime is over.

White Christian Ethnostate Now

>>137515140
>The founders were explicit white nationalists
Nazis were not just white nationalist

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>>137521027
I made a shit discord server. It's a start. The movement grew to its current size just two years after the Roof shooting, just a small change in aesthetics and we can explode. The swastika must be put aside.
Invite number: z4xvrJ

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Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxIbq7HkalQ

>>137511634
IF Nazis were so cool

HOW COME AMERICA FUCKING KILLED ALL OF THEM

BOOOYAH

>>137515638
>your politics or your ideals, just the symbol and name.
What you fail to realize is that his politics are not winning and are seriously flawed

Worry less about the Nazi decorations. Worry more about squashing the communist and socialist ideologies that have found a comfortable home in your local park. These people have not been taught any alternatives.
Sheep gonna sheep.
Be a Shepard.

>>137521350
I looked at your pic. Were you aware that Nazi Germany attacked European countries including Churchill's England? Of course you are but
>niggers stole my bike
NatSoc was ended as an effective political force in America as of last Saturday because of Richard Spencer. Everyone sees that but you guys

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>>137511634

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>>137522099
thanks working on discord nao.
if theres a way to unite NatSoc with American Patriotism and even be friendly to "Jews"...would you be in or nah?

>>137522440
>war was forced on Germany despite her several pleas for reason
>nazis attacked the world
loluwot?

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This is literally what normies see when they see some faggot larping as a nazi in America

>>137516196
>The individual creates the ultimate expression of Freedom and Reason through joining with the State. Fascism is the final evolution of Freedom.
This right here is an example of failed idealogy. Fuck the state

>>137521185
Sarcasm of course. I'm not even a NatSoc and have no love for that ideology.
I'm solidly on the right and more of a friend than an enemy to anyone concerned with demographic change in America. Most of the self proclaimed NatSocs on this board are too locked in to their purity spiral to recognize that, though.

>>137522440
also richard spencer isnt natsoc hes a hillary plant.

spencergate.wordpress.com

>>137511634
This forever.

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>>137515462
Yeah, whatever faggot.

>>137522085
Anti-Globalism includes (((Global Capitalism))) like TPP and NAFTA, and foreign wars in the Middle East, other nations like Israel, etc. America First. If you refuse to move until Trump announces GAS THE KIKES RACE WAR NOW, you are going to be wasting this opportunity to unite White Christian America.

You mena the dylan roof anti white hoax done by that nigger Soetoro and his jew overlords

The most important thing you can do for the white race is keep your own life in order. Start with yourself. You must be competent, reliable, hardworking, and, above all, happy. Do people in your life trust and respect you? What does your family think of you? Are you capable of raising children? Racial politics does not have to be the only factor of your life. And if you can't achieve such things for your self, then the chances are very high that you are not ready to be a political activist, either online or in real life. Because how can you make a difference for the race, for the lives of many, if you can't even make anything of your own, individual life?

Always remember: we live in first world countries and have opportunity that most people born on this planet do not. Things aren't as good for us as they were for our parents. But billions of people in the third world would still kill to have the opportunities that you do right now. So take care of yourself! Work your ass off, every day, to build a good life for you, and for your family. Spend your time wisely, and keep your real life priorities in order. Work hard, but also do fun and wholesome things with real people in real life. That's very important. Nothing on the internet should ever take away from your real life

>>137514345
So it only looks like a swastika if you draw in arrows pointing to the North Star?

Pretty weak, fuck face.

>>137522379
This, like I said, the focus should be to take back the optics people like instead of trying to save dead/tainted ones.

>>137516326
>The only negativity surrounding the two hinges on the belief that the Holocaust happened and Nazis are evil.
Pro tip. Even if you subtract the (((holocaust))) Nazis were an esoteric cult that commited a litany of shitty acts. Not to mention they are statist and authoritarians. The kinda things i hate. So yeah. Your movement isnt going anywhere

National Socialism is garbage, just like communism.

Hitler had some good ideas, sure. Doesn't mean they were all great.

>>137511634
> "I AM NOT LE NAZI I JUST WANT JEWISH BANKERS TO LEAVE OUR COUNTRY. BAN IMMIGRATION AND MAKE A WHITE ETHNOSTATE THAT PUSHES EUGENICS. SEE I DONT HAVE A NAZI FLAG THEY ARE LE BAD GUISE"

THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU NORMIES REEEEE

>>137521027
>is there a think-tank setup yet?
Not yet but that's a good idea. 4*2 chan would probably be a good place to start due to less redditors and shills.
>>137522099
Agreed it's fun to troll social media and jewtube with but keep it the fuck away from public events and the ideas we actually want to push to the public

>>137511634
No one here would be stupid enough to go out there and parade around with a nazi flag. Having said that, this site gets a lot of traffic so who knows? How many were at the unite the right rally with nazi imagery anyway? Also, what the fuck is up with all these queens on here virtue signalling about how it's **our** fault that some retard downer mowed down a bunch of people. This is a place where we come together, discuss different ideas, post satire etc. I am not personally fucking responsible for that guy, and everyone else here reading this right now needs to remember that they are not responsible either. Ignore the shilling. The media have come down so hard on WN's, saying to call evil by its name. Fuck they don't give a shit about that, or they would be calling out the Islamists that are responsible for a lot more killings. Don't fall into that trap and let them guilt you.

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>>137523315
FUCKING NORMIES LEAVE NOW.YOU RETARDS WITH THESE SLIDE THREADS

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>>137523139
please educate yourself, anon.
look... im a natsoc but im also fairly intelligent.
if my beliefs are wrong i want you to show me.
prove theyre wrong..dont use emotional arguments or trolling tho. that wont work.

if im not wrong, why not consider the value of natsoc instead?

>>137523367
>4*2 chan would probably be a good place to start due to less redditors and shills.
youre right good idea. maybe should make our own board? this is your guy's movement right now so im just following your lead

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>>137511634
REEEEEE
you literal fags are ruining this board
> muh republicans
> muhhh optics
>muhhh based niggers / jews
You fags make fun of t d but when it comes to actual action yoh are the same

First of all fuck the republican party. Bunch of neocon paid shillls. Trump is an anomaly

Also the "muhhhh optics" shit is retarded. You will always ne labeled as nazis and letting the media undermine your rhetoric by saying shit like " nononono we are gud boiz not nazis " is just accepting media pressure and letting them push you to the ground while foolishly thinking they will stop at you being a semi identitarian movement. No, they wont to get rid of you and your lives period

Also
> muhh domestic terrorism
We have nothing to do with it you faggots. We never preach un provoked violence but what can we do about stray buklets that have their lives ruined by anti white rhetoric being the new norm. They brought this on themselves and there is no reason for us to disorganize for this event

Now stop beong a fag. We are doing very well. Re organize and stick with your ideas and fight for them aggressively and let the shills gain zero ground on you instead of letting them turn you into the donald

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i want nazis to leave. /pol/ was a mistake
hiro please help

>>137523562
All of this has already been discussed upthread. You're late and wrong, greekroach.

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>>137513046
It honestly doesn't matter what you think. It matters what the nation thinks, and the target audiences.

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>>137514009
>>137513195
>>137513046
>>137512906
>>137512007
The swastika has multiple layers of meaning behind it, starting with the symbology of the sun. The arms of the swastika represents the rays of the sun. The reason why the sun is also a symbol of our people is because we are a northern people and sun was extremely important to our survival during our earliest years as a separate ethno group. It brought us warmth and melted the snow away. The other half of the swastika meaning is when you break the symbol in half. The SS of the symbol represents Thor's lightening bolts, as well as zues. It's a spiritual symbol and it has power and meaning.

Just like we're not willing to abandon our people, we're not abandoning the holy symbol of our people.

The swastika is fucking staying you cowards.

Sieg fucking heil

>>137513604
Make it 14 stars.

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>>137523886
How am i wrong you fucking schlomo fag

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>>137523925
>It honestly doesn't matter what you think. It matters what the nation thinks
youre half right. it does matter what i think. i represent /pol/ and /pol/ is a natsoc board. /pol/ got trump elected... not spencer.. not the altright... not some patriot movement...not a bunch of jews. /pol/ did that. YOU must pander to us. YOU must convince US your strategy and movement is compatible and the right thing to embrace. without US..YOU have nothing.

dont YOU ever forget that, Jew.

>>137523994
this

>>137514093

How dumb are you?

They lost the war and nearly all of Europe turned Red.

>>137515235

Anyone who has a job and a live doesn't give a shit.
National Socialism is a shit ideology for right wing gibs me faggots.

>>137524194
No, I'm Paul.
>>137524146
Read

>>137523511
Not a bad idea, it's just going to be tough attracting the right people to the think tank without alerting shills and legit retards.

>>137517389
>1928

so Hitler basically made it come true. Congrats, you just proved his point

>>137524355
Write bergstein

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>>137524194

> /pol/ is a natsoc board

It's actually not.

Swasticas have nothing to do with natsoc other than the fact the a natsoc group adopted it as their symbol.

Nice try shill faggot.

National Socialism is a fail. I'll never work for you, for free.

;)

>>137515462
Pro Tip: The New England Feds killed more injuns than Southerners ever did. After the Civil War, they immediately started exterminating injuns in the west.

>>137512007
We need a new symbol brother. A large political party.

>>137524355
checked

>>137524411
yeah but can always weed them out

>>137524578
you mean the Jews have been plotting globalism far longer than you realized and now you dont know what to believe so youll scapegoat hitler?

>>137511634
The flag of the east india trading co? Fuck you.

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>>137523418
If you watch the footage you will see that almost nobody on either side had the American flag. They had the BLM flag, identitarian flags, faggot flags, confederate flags, etc. The group that claims the American flag can set the definition for the flag, we just need to be the ones to do it. Only fly the American flag at rallies, set the swastika to the side.

>>137519018
If only he didn't decide to attack every nation around him, that quote would be true

>>137524645
lets debate natsoc then? :)
can you cite three criticism you have of it that arent related to the holohoax?

>>137521350
>if youre gonna say to do something but cant give a decent reason why... who is gonna listen? dont be mad at me the only thing you know about nazism is what you saw in Schindler's List
Right... this is your self defense mechanism working. You arrogant prick.

>>137511634
and this is how the commies finally destroy nationalism in america.
dont listen to this retard - oh wait, 245 replies because this board is actually fucking dead.

the american flag will be the next "racist symbol"

>>137524905
well...can you cite three criticisms you have of it that arent related to the holohoax?

>>137524925
This is exactly what we want

>>137513046

It's about perception you negroid mouth breather. It doesn't matter what it actually means, it matters that this movement is still a tiny minority of the populace and the majority normie crowd required to make this successful percieves that symbol as hateful and evil. Go ahead and waste time explaining why we shouldn't abandon it, with more that 5 brain cells won't wait on you anyways. This revolution was needed 30 years ago, we don't have time to push faggot semantics from the low ground.

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>>137524194
>ancestors get jewed out of their ancestral homes to (((commies)))
>get called a jew

Legit mad at that one. But I'll compose and humor you: You are not 'we'. You are not a marketing expert. You are a zealot. That's good, insofar as you leave the planning to others.

Obviously you're going to lose repeatedly if you virtue spiral out of control every time you come into contact with the public. You're a friction machine right now. Tone it down and calculate. The interests of this board overlap with groups like Hotep, antithetical to Soros' funded BLM. There are allies outside pol, and outside the super specific realm of natsoc. You're never going to jump from 0 to 60 like you want and expect your specific images, style, and methods to be the pervasive all consuming force that you feel entitled to.

>>137523511
What's your belief, anon? Swastikas are some magical, deep symbol that was ruined by (((them)))?

Someone drew one long ago. People thought it looked cool, and used it for various things. The Nazis decided to use it, and ended up on the wrong side of history. Now the swastika is on the wrong side by association.

By all means though, keep posting the cringy, tard-tier infographics linking it to astronomy and spiritual bullshit.

>>137522706
>Sarcasm of course. I'm not even a NatSoc and have no love for that ideology.
>I'm solidly on the right and more of a friend than an enemy to anyone concerned with demographic change in America. Most of the self proclaimed NatSocs on this board are too locked in to their purity spiral to recognize that, though.
Well put and is a reason I can no longer support this.

>>137524925
>the american flag will be the next "racist symbol"
The problem is changing the meaning of such a widely used symbol. If you succeeded you'd win.

>>137522997

You there, stop making sense!

>>137523994
No, it doesn't. Someone drew one a long time ago. Now retards like you try to assign deep meaning to it.

>>137518506
>muh larp! muh larp!
lol
>Look at identity evropa and the identitarians in europe
Oh, you mean that honeypot movement? Great example there fuckwit.

>>137524194
>i represent /pol/ and /pol/ is a natsoc board. /pol/ got trump elected..
Wow... and you want me to support you with this arrogance

>>137525023
Then use the fucking Nazi flag you retarded cumskin. What's the point of you retards even getting all flustered for if you are going to have a stupid racist flag anyway?

>>137524845
>a fucking leaf

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>>137525203
are you soft on the Jews as well friendo?

>>137525267
>You are not a marketing expert.
who exposed the altright as a Jewish plot again? who is exposing it as a Satanic plot? is it you? did you know the AltRight is literally Satanism? of course you didnt. dont belittle others. if you think that you have a superior strategy, present it and lets debate it openly and fairly. otherwise your ego does not match what you can deliver.

>pic related

ill give you a pass this time cuz you didnt know who you were addressing ;) hahaha

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>>137524883

Aspects of national socialism work well as a base for security of the people, but without free market and capitalism, it's nothing more than communism with a flashy name.

We already have national socialist policies in place in the US and they work well.

So what is your fuss? Because it looks to me like everyone claiming natsoc is nothing more than a liberal shill or edgy mentally ill person who thinks free gibs me will come out of a natsoc society.

National Socialism itself is a dated and shallow system. We already have taken the best parts of it and implemented it into US policies / services.

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>>137525324
>wrong side of history
You are just a gift that keeps on giving

>>137525828
>everything to the left of ayn rand is communism
Take your (You) and go bait somewhere else lol

>>137525732
what do you disagree with?

>/pol/ is a natsoc board
>/pol/ got trump elected

???

>>137525828
>natsoc restored germany's wealth in under 4 years
>america is trillions in debt
>america already implemented all the best natsoc policies..
u wot?

>>137525780
>are you soft on the Jews as well friendo?
For me personally I don't buy the jew meme. I believe their are certain sects that have devious motives but there is no collective jew conspiracy

>>137522997
This. Absolutely this.

Keep your shit in order. Have a nice life. We don't need to have a "who can be a cringier group of fucks" contest with the left.

Keep your shit straight, and everything else will fall into place.

>>137525828
>National Socialism itself is a dated and shallow system. We already have taken the best parts of it and implemented it into US policies / services.
What policies are those that are actually successful?

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>>137525921

Yea, that's what I thought, you have no argument.

Get fucked.

>>137526274
i wont try to convince you and derail the thread but what a coincidence i correctly assumed you were soft with jews

>>137525928
Both fag.

>>137526274
And this is how you spot the redditfugee

>>137526295
But don't be complacent and fall into the degenerate western media influence. Stand strong and fight for yourself while giving a big push to the movement without even knowing it

>>137526455
Get fucked by what? Your trillions of dollars of debt? The US isn't even an eagle anymore, it's just the rotting corpse of one. You let the kikes decieve you into having your nationalism be replaced by patriotism. That's why you will never be as great as you were in the last century again.

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>>137526526
pic related. trump is /ourguy/ and we memed him into the white house. stay jelly.

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>>137511634
Recipe for the globalists/communists worst nightmare:

1. Own the American flag. American symbology.

2. Own peace. Peace symbology.

>>137526528
>And this is how you spot the redditfugee
I am more than sure you spent more time on reddit than me. You continue to expose your closed mindedness. You are no better than leftist

>>137526101

Except the US economy isn't nearly as bad as Germany in their time.

>america is trillions in debt

Who cares... how does this affect you from growing out of NEET mode?

>>137526810
>MUH RIGHT WING ESS JAY DUBBAYOOS
Shouldn't you be busy screaming about how "TEH DEMOCRAPS ARE TEH REAL RAYCISTS!!!111" on /r/the_donald

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>>137525780
>did you know the AltRight is literally Satanism? of course you didnt.

First, you had no idea what my position is, but you were desperate to prove someone wrong so why not make up a position for them, right?

Second, you provided no evidence AT ALL or to the extent that it was true. It's something you expect everyone else here to assume. And you know what they say about assuming.

>if you think that you have a superior strategy, present it

Yeah, don't sperg out and scare everyone who you already know is brainwashed / patterned and expect to have a movement. Right now this isn't a movement. This is a shitshow, and you're the culprit.

>otherwise your ego

I never claimed that I was an expert. I do claim that I have at least standard IQ and some basic sense, which is more than could be assumed about you.

>didnt know who you were addressing

Amazing,no wonder you thought I had ego. It was a projection. Still don't know or care who you are. As far as I can tell, you're another anon.

>>137526881
What trillion dollars of debt, faggot?

>>137526881
>america is trillions in debt
That debt is a direct result of natsoc policies

>>137526881
Hitler fixed germany's economy in under 4 years.
America is trillions in debt to Jews.

...

>>137512007

FPBP

Heil Hitler

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>>137526711

> Your trillions of dollars of debt?

So you are not even an American.

You have no say in this... Foreigner.

;)

>>137527018
Lemme guess, your nigger infestation is also a result of natsoc policies amirite?
>when in doubt, blame it on something you know nothing about!