>Communism doesn't wor-

>>137508825
>Be poor china boy
>Talk bad about the government
>Get thrown into a labor camp or killed

>>137508825
Cum in my beard

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OP BTFO

That's cool, I'm glad the rich chinese businessmen, politicians, and tourists get to enjoy that while the common chinese citizen lives in filth.

China's government still calls itself communist, but it abandoned communism in the 80's and is more or less a capitalist country now. The party bosses learned they liked getting rich controlling the formerly government owned enterprises for profit.

>>137508825
>the most aggressively capitalist country in the world is communism because the Gubment controls the internet/media in their country
cool meme, now find me a country with more aggressive business capacities, pollution but less regulation than China.

I'll wait.

>>137508825

1/2 the country are poor and starving.

The other 1/2 use Capitalism and slave labor to sell shit to the world.

Go and live there and get back to us.

Communist in name only.

>>137508825
How many people did you have to kill to reach that state, dear Chinkman? :^)

>>137509187
>enjoying overcrowded shitholes

Communist utopia is still a dystopia for rationale people

Cities suck for anything but the middle class who are trying to fight over the scraps of employment or the fuedal lords who rent all the property but dont have to plant their life down in the city

Theres a fucking reason rich people own private acreage and islands and shit, and its not because they love the city lifestyles

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>>137509614

Yep

It's why I laugh about how city fags try and defend their polluted and crime filled shit jungles.

Humans aren't meant to live that way, and people only do because they're forced to do it by society.

>>137508825
Look up "Special economic zones", cuck.

>>137509697
Why the fuck are they allowed licences.

They control the sale of both new and used cooking oil for god sake.

Get tucked gooks

>>137508825
I've been to Beijing. The place is an overcrowded hellhole with smog, traffic, and people everywhere, with zero safety standards for anything. If your gonna post any Chinese city for this shitty bait thread, use Shanghai

that's ironic people still call china communist when it's probably the best example of how the entire world will look like if capitalism completely takes over

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>>137508825
youre so fucking dumb it hurts

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>>137508825

China isn't communist dumbass. It's full on Capitalist.

>>137508825
it works because the souls have been sucked out of the population just like communists plan to do with the rest of the world.

>>137509697
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>>137510063
>>137510244
This is communism

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>>137508825
Races aren't equal and communism is a tool of the Jews, who want to see whites exterminated and treated in Europe like they were in Zimbabwe. Dugin even admits it, and commies love National Bolsheviks, they split whites up and promote their genocide.

>COMMIES BTFFFFOOOOOOO

sage

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>>137510063
brutal
>>137510208
>resorts to ad hominem and straw man right away

capitalist pig
>>137510448
so is your mom

>>137509928
cant believe it took this long for someone to say it.

Somebodys gotta pull up the sewer oil article. Im not gonna cuz im eating...

>>137509842
How to hate an entire country in less than 1 minute...

>>137510063
What the fuck, why did he drive into the truck?

>>137509757
genuinely hilarious.

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>>137508825
agreed, I'm a good goyim that likes communism and wants to live in perpetual Silent Hill

>>137508954
doesn't have to do with the economic system

>>137508825
Hong Kong. Export monies to commies because... You have to.

>>137511380
beijing is fucking terrible. Go there and walk around without a mask for a week and see what happens to you. "Muh nuffin with economics :DDDD"

>>137511222
it actually looked like this the entire 2 weeks i was there until the morning i left.

>>137508825
All those buildings are deathtraps

>>137509842
I still remember how people tried to defend this.

Outside of their own country native Asians are generally very nice because they're intelligent enough to understand social norms are important to know for each country you're in, but on native soil they can be really heartless and self-driven.

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>>137508825
>be me in 8th grade
>go to China on school trip
>see homeless that are blind and mentally retarded because no health care system
>see man with boils all over him crawling on the ground as the police are not helping but sectioning him off from the rest of the public
>NEVER forget that mental scar

Communism sure works bud for all but the people who aren't the state.

>>137508954
China is one of the oldest patriarchical archaeo-empires.

Its not that you get thrown into prison for talking against communism, its that you contravened the statutes of the Elders, and become deserving of a spanking. In other words, don't talk back to your grampa because he will whoop you with his metal cane.

>>137510870
Not even a fucking nigger would act like this! Jesus! And the mother too!

>>137510870
fucking kek

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>>137509697
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>>137510969
>>137511094
>>137511774
It's not specifically communism that's responsible for this, it's more of the chinks that are altogether fucked in the head.

Pic very related.

>>137508825
Chinese communism works because it's not real communism.

>>137508825

You can own property.
You can own a business.
You can be successful.
Communism my ass.
KYS shill.

>>137510969
Again... not even a nigger

>>137510969
Why are chinkas such savages /pol/?

China has always been a malthusian nightmare.
The original cadres of the party, the ones before the failed urban insurrections and the first rectification movement, often cited seeing folks dying so impersonally in the streets as one of the main reasons they got into communism, and the same is so for many reformists and rebels of the previous imperial dynasties. Suffice to say, none have changed the essence of the chinese way of living and dying.
Place is fucked, yo.

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>>137510063
like a fucking watermelon

>>137508825
Ive been to beiJing its not that great.

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>>137508954
I dindu nuffin

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>>137508825
>China
>Communist
What year are you from? China's economy is known as centrally managed capitalism, or state capitalism. You're legit retarded.

>>137511705
But why did they not develop social norms like not murdering people or caring about hurting others?

>>137508825
>trades in a open market
>free speech in most of the country ( small farm dont, but small farms )
>able to corporate products
>city built only after money flow from non communist country
>post communist
how much denial are you in?

>>137510851
Probably thought he could sneak under it
>>137510870
I legitimately want to know the story behind this.

Wtf i hate china more than anything now

>>137512167
Even their roads are cheap knock offs

>>137511947
Yeah except the metal cane is a gulag where they harvest your organs so you can never speak out ever again.

China is a national socialist state.

>>137512190
Author forget about drug addiction of half of chinese population when England was selling opium to them in 19th century.

>>137512725
No anon I'm saying that's how they are inside their own countries. In our countries they are nicer and more polite because they know they have to be properly assimilate. But every Asian country is essentially a collectivist society - if you lose worth in any way shape or form you're left behind. There's not room for individual kindness when you know you could be indispensable in seconds.

>>137512725
Because China has for a long time required bloodletting on a horrific scale to prevent famine on a horrific scale
And it has required famine in a horrific scale to prevent bloodletting on a horrific scale
Y'know, in 20 or so years it'll probably be a lot better, insofar as China is quickly entering a less "chinese" state of affairs.

>>137512841
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/man-china-caught-video-hurling-baby-article-1.1774682

this article says there was a fight in the shop

>>137511947
>using mental gymnastics to get to the point where you reduce government abduction to a mere spanking
In other words, free speech isn't alive in a country choked by smog, and an economy so fraile, once American companies start pulling out en masse (can and will happen), their economy, which has built enough debt to put our rate to shame, will tank.
Most of their currency value is built on manipulation

>>137501003
Get the fuck in here NatSocs! I'm saving the movement!

>>137511705
you for real? asians (mostly mainland chinese) are the one ethnicity that annoys me more than anyone other. they get under my skin at least 500 times a day specifically because they don't understand the social norms of western culture. they're emotionless robots that act even more herd-like than the rest of society.

>>137508825

No matter how advanced China becomes, it will never change the fact that these brightly lit postmodern cities will always be full of Chinese people, and that is a vision of Hell!

>>137508825
Ask me how I know you've never been to China?

>>137512841
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/china-to-execute-toddler-killer-who-threw-child-from-her-pram-in-parking-row-8838649.html

another chinklet, fatally hurls 2 year old over parking dispute with the mother.
sentenced to death.
the upside of gommunism

>>137508825
Oh! Sweetie! Heavens no! China hasn't been communist in several decades. It's freakin' adorable that you thought that though! Lil' precious sunlight of my life!

>>137513578
ah shit, "anyone other", i'm a dunce.

>>137513230
Doubt it. They will just keep extending their reach and infecting every other society with their barbarism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTHR_omZtXc

>>137513787
If that happened here in the West she would only get a few years.

>>137513079
Its an offal fucking state

>>137508825
And it's polluted as shit

>>137508825
>China
>21st century
>Communism

You are beyond retard

>>137508825
>I'm 13 and have not even the most superficial knowledge of modern history, the post

>>137508825

It's night and you can still see the smog

>>137512455
ho li fuc

>>137513920
Aw producing garbage like that is a good thing
It means they're becoming gelded and spoiled, just like the rest of us.

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>>137512695
This. China has a Capitalist economy and a Communist culture. Quite the deadly combination, at least for its citizens.

>China
>Communist

They are literally more capitalist than we are in some respects

>>137513927
depends on the country. in the US youd probably get a harsh 25-life in prison.
i wish europeans would get more martyr-like.
anders breivik is going to be a free man again after killing like 80 people.
with the lax punishment for grievous crimes, euros should take advantage of this to fight for europa.

>Wanting soulless metropolis cities.

>>137510572
Chinks never valued human life, Communist or otherwise. Asians in general view themselves as ants, team members of little or no individual value.

>>137514517
That video is from South Korea though

>>137508825
>(1)

>>137508825
China is anything but communist right no,w you fucking tard.

>>137514517
WHAT IS IT WITH CHINKS AND LIFTS?!!!!

>>137512190
Well I reckon the commies haven't fucking helped with any of that

>>137514748
Yeah, I just thought I'd contribute to the dump of webms of chinks offing themselves and each other.

>>137509842

holy shit, they're literally soulless bodies.

>>137508825
That is the capitol in Hunger Games. YOU don't get to live there.

>>137508825
Nationalist Capitalism! Commies BTFO

>>137508954
> assembly iphones for a bowl of rice

>>137509284
Wrong. China is more communist now than ever

>>137509187
Shill! Chinese businessmen are not businessmen they are inner party members!

>>137509298
China is now becoming a democracy true, but their economy is still 100% communist. You say it's capitalism due to their embrace of democracy

>>137509449
It's comunist

>>137509480
China is 100% communist

>>137509869
i laugh at suburban and rural retards.

>>137516308
You can start privatized businesses.

If Marxism was a religion China would be a heresy.

>>137516393
No you can't really, you can RUN a business but the inner party gets your profits and they regulate how you run it. You get paid back your profits if the inner party thinks you are a worthy comrade. That's why business runners who say anything bad about President get their stores redistributed.

It's literal perfection of Marxism.

>>137516717
No you really can I have a friend whose from China at uni his parents started their own business and close up shop when ever they get hit with piracy of fraudulent products. Since I've known him they've open and closed 5 businesses so yes you can.

>>137511380
that has literally everything to do with it

>>137509842
It's awful, but I seem to recall someone saying that anyone who helps the child is responsible for it.

At the end of the day, there is just too many people on this planet. At least half of China, half of India, all of Africa and Poland needs to be genocided before we can really start to see people caring about each other again.

>>137511094
What the fuck did that truck run over?

>>137516308
They are completely totalitarian but the chinese people themselves are the most capitalist people on earth. also they lack all but the most basic levels of altruisim. China is not communist, get sick there and go bankrupt, lose your job and live under a tree, there are no elements of communism there.

>>137516944
My Chinese friend said there was no property there.

>>137517572
There is communism there, they are a DEMOCRATIC COMMUNIST society but communist none the less.

>>137517757
Your Chinese friend is a liar. I went over there for two weeks and stayed at a host family's home they purchased. My Mandarin teacher was the grandchild of one of the landlords Mao chose to keep alive and her family is beyond wealthy.

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China's economic zones are just a few regulation removals from being AnCap paradise, how the fuck does it represent successful Communism?

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>>137508825
Not seeing a lot of equality in that pic...

>>137508825
>pragmatism is the measure of an ideology
Then we should own slaves?
>communism is moral
By suspending it's own moral suppositions to impose itself?

>>137516308
>wage labour
>communist
that's kind of a big no-no innit

>>137518171
Forgot to add, all their children and their grandchildren that aren't in out of China own residential property.

>attain absolute monetary control over more than a billion people
>build a shittier version of any western city
>isn't even safe to breath in
lol

>>137517757
Before I started working there I also had no idea. What you are saying is just wrong. It is not even slightly communist. China is capitalism run amok with a totalitarian government trying desperately to hold the reigns on a population running 10,000 directions seeking personal profit with no social net.

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>>137517175
>all of Africa and Poland
>Poland

egsplane?

>>137518171
iirc the majority of china's current elite have familial ties to the pre-1949 elite
>>137518183
and hell those special economic zones are the only thing that prop up the woefully bad state industries in the interior.

>>137518171
I didn't want to reveal but I'm a Chinese immigrant bro, my family came here 5 years ago, it's communist as hell since all businesses are nothing more than entities of the State

>>137518482
The businesses are all state owned. They just get redistributed some of the profits.

>>137518183
Makes sense, given the terrible pollution, crime, and poverty.

wtf im a commie now

>>137517757
your non-existent chinese friend is retarded because i personally know people who own a house, several cars, and apartment buildings.

China is more fascist than communist today.

Han racial supremacy
Totalitarian one party rule
It's lacking the cult of personality since Mao died.
Co-opt capitalism into the state government, not purely centralized.
Jingoism and irredentism
No interest in exporting maoism or communism.

>>137508825
>real communism has never been tried
>Deng Xiaopeng ended real communism, Mao should have purged him

>two minutes later

>look at the Chinese communists! They're really something am I right?

Beijing is literally hell on Earth. It's so fucking filthy that I'm surprised they don't try to sell bottled clean air. Traffic is essentially an explosion and subsequent dump of raw sewage. It is a giant pile of cheap, glitter-coated shit trying to mask the fact 1 billion peasants live in squalor the likes of which cant even be imagined in western civilization. The only country I've been to that was worse was India but everyone already knows that. Anyone posting otherwise here is part of the privileged class or larping.

>>137511380

>poor Chinese boy
>poor

"nothin to do with economics, lol"

>>137518796
No you don't, you're LARPING

>>137518713
First don't hide behind a false flag, you're a leaf embrace it, just as I'm an Amerifat even though I work out and am purely white. Second you can own property there I know this for a fact, I've literally had discussions with multiple professors from China and students from China as well as watched documentaries. From my experience Chinese think China is a lot more Communist than it is.

>>137518713
Just because the government owns 51% of major industries doesn't make it communist. Its not a workers paradise, there is no social safety net, there is not equality outside government sponsored rallies. The people are oppressed in ways that hillary clinton can only dream of.

>>137508825
china is a fascist state though

>>137508825
Have you been to China? Don't talk about what you don't know about.

>>137519023
im actually not, but i know you are so it's ok.

you're ignoring that people in Beijing need to buy canned air.

>>137519661
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen_bar

>>137519387
Canadian flag is kind of dangerous since if you say something offensive to a transgender person or gay person you can get in legal trouble, so it's just a way to safeguard accidentily saying hatespeech since if i had a communist flag and by accident said something offensive to the LGBT community for all people know im an american

>>137519617
nice larp

>>137519548
travelling is degenerate though

>>137518919
I passed through just at the end of the olympics and have pictures of blue skies over beijing. Everyone in china tells me they are fake because there is never a blue sky in beijing. Very funny really if a chongqing worker says the beijing sky is too blue.

>>137519793
Fair enough...

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>>137508825
Not real communism apparently.
Also the measure of a system isn't it's grandiose buildings that take their form completely from anothers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO6oDzZ7W7k

I just wish you were not so dumb as to perpetually fail and then expend even more energy on scapegoating white people.

>>137518503
ALL of Poland.

>>137518713
Look at the dumpling shop on the street, see how that family earn a living and then talk to me about communism.

>>137508954
>Question the absolute sovereignty of the State
>State exercises its absolute sovereignty
>Peace and order are maintained
>But MUH universal human rights
>MUH liberalism
>MUH democracy...he said as nuAmerian immigrants rape is daughter

>>137508825
didn't the brits set the foundation for all that in the wake of the opium wars though?

>>137521376
The state does not have absolute sovereignty.

>>137521529
Go to China and tell them that with your faggy western marxism

>>137521828
nigger

>>137516308
Sorry but you are wojg on every single point.

>>137518713
I don't want to do this but its late and it feels right. Please excuse me. To the larping jew who started this thread please accept all of my fuck yous. Here you are spreading your bullshit hoping only to deceive. Try not to get doxxed in this life because when I get to hell I will be looking for you with all of eternity to look nothing to lose.

>>137521948
白左

Without Mao's centralisation and modernisation of imperial China the economic boom of the 1970s would not have been possible.

Read it and weep cucks.

>>137522328
You mean without Nixon

>>137522508
That too.

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>>137508825

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>>137508825
> One Country, two systems

China wouldn't look like that if they never regained Hong Kong from the Brits and access their Capitalist free markets.

Socialism is only for the Chinese plebs, that's why we see super-cars being driven by the families of Chinese political elites.

>>137522651
Its not much but I've spent maybe 1.5 years in china. Before that I really had no idea. Probably I don't understand everything but I'm pretty sure I know the main points and OP is a total faggot with no idea about real life there.

>>137522899

You forgot the part where the villagers made primitive furnaces out of their shit and hair.

>>137521728
What in the fuck was that explosion? Was he working on a gas line that ruptured?

>>137521828
I would not be doubted, insofar as doubting me would be tantamount to saying that the constitution is being violated at a structural level.
It is, make no mistake, but that doesn't mean one can say such so openly.

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>>137516308

You are so stupid I don't even want to answer you. I work in private equity and do deals in china pretty regularly. China is probably the most capitalist place on earth, it's basically like the U.S in the 1920s. You can literally pay someone to goto prison for you. There are no property taxes and the income tax is about half that of the u.s. There is minimal social net or environmental regulation.

It's me in four seasons pudong. The five star hotels here are better than anything in Manhatten and London. entrprenurship is literally worshipped here. Peter thiel's zero to one start up book sold the most in China. Unlike the west where new firm creation is falling, it is increasing in China. You also have the most pro business government on the planet, where local governments go out of their way to give tax breaks, cheap loans and land if you want to build a company. If you need a road, it gets built in a few months unlike in America where it will take 20 years and cost 10x more mostly pocketed to some environ lawyers.

Go back to leftypol. Sage

>>137523437
Lmao at your "five star" breakfast, bro

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>>137516308
>Wrong. China is more communist now than ever
>China is now becoming a democracy

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>>137523754

>he doesn't know all the meats are various breeds of dog

>>137523129
China is above all else an oligarchy. Ideology is secondary to the ruling clique maintaining their grip on power. Chinese economics may appear more open but it's only because the mechanics of control have slipped beneath the surface to appeal to Westerners.

China is not capitalist or communist or anything else. It's China.

>>137523754
Its not so bad anon. I was there on superbowl sunday one year. My girlfriend and I stayed in bed to watch. At half time I ran up to the executive lounge and loaded up two plates for late breakfast during second half. Not really top shelf but no room to complain.

>>137524265
Absolutely, its all about relationships if you want to succeed. When you see a rich guy going to prison its because he lost a political fight. but underneath everything is everyone fighting to get ahead for themselves and their immediate family. fascinating country.

>>137524265
doubt it. The politburo's anti-corruption drives are likely the result of cyclical chinese history: the central government becomes increasingly unable to control local affairs, with state officials in the far flung provinces and municipalities exercising independent power beyond the emperors gaze.

>>137508825
>2017
>thinking China is anything other than state capitalism

Gorgeous foggy hue... I wonder what it smells like? and why the natives are always wearing make shift gas masks.

And why emphazhima and lung cancer are so prominent there? The Chinese must smoke too many cigarettes.

There food is so elegant as well. I wonder what they fry their "meats" in. I hear it's called gutter oil. Tastes fantastic I wonder how it's refined? (don't look that up if you just ate any Chinese, serious here)

Welp time to pack it up boys... capitalism gets BTFO again. How will we ever recover?

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>communist
>higher support for the free market than USA
Really scratches the old noggin

>>137524612
You're absolutely correct and this is especially apparent in the South China Sea dispute where provincial authorities who stand to gain from the SCS being Chinese are acting incredibly aggressively when Beijing is actually trying to cool tensions.

China is a lot like the US in that it's made up of provinces with a surprising amount of autonomy, but unlike the US there is no respect for the rule of law so the provinces are not restrained by things like the central government being the only one "supposed" to carry on foreign affairs.

>>137524601
Yep. I love visiting China but I couldn't live there. They're not human.

>>137523754
>Dudes so poor he doesn't know what a "five star breakfast" looks like.

Small portion sizes, jook with shrimp and crab, select jam jars with croissant. It's like you're just realizing that "five star" food is a scam.

>>137516308
You can't just refer to capitalism as communism, what the fuck...

>>137525115
I guess one big difference is that from its founding there was still quite a bit of respect for the idea of strong central government, insofar as the federalists most certainly got the upper hand over the anti-federalists. The irony here is that the US may have a stronger central government than a str8 up one-party state.

>>137525260
I don't even know what you're saying, but I'd take a Full English over that bullshit any day, regardless of what could potentially be offered.You sound like a huge faggot. Probably enjoy tube steak for breakfast. Nigger.

>>137508825
Nazism is better. Those chinks lives are shit

>>137526187
He works in private equity. Of course he's a huge faggot.

>>137508825
Communism is great if you're rich.

>>137525671
This guy is just flat out lying, ignore him

>>137526187
He's not saying that he would himself prefer a full english.
It's a hotel breakfast, it's either complimentary or better than the effort it would take to get a full english breakfast.

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>>137526187

Sorry potatos and eggs aren't my cup of tea

>>137526827
So soggy dumplings and uncooked sausages are? Fucking LOL

>>137526676
Flat out lying about what?
I mean, we can certainly say that "the party" has full control over the state and the country, but it gets murkier when you remember that the party itself isn't immune to division and court isolation, like all previous dynasties.
I mean, we can certainly say that the Ming dynasty had full control over China, but that ignores the actual concrete power of the emperor and his court over his far flung subjects.

>>137526595
Thats pretty awesome anon. +1 You can have all my internets for the reat of today. Gratz.

>>137510448
It's National Socialist

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>>137526827
>he doesn't like potatoes
Jesus Christ just kill yourself my man.

Pic related, the perfect food. I'd rather three day old fire-grilled chicken and roast potato from the diplomatic service cafeteria reheated in a motel microwave than fucking dumplings.

>>137527362
aw cmon dumplings are alright
the real problem is that gruel of a porridge, we as a society advance when we abandon porridge.

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>>137527084

Anything over shitty united business meals. Options are limited when you are on the in a rush to get to a bunch of meetings

>>137527967

On the *go*

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>>137527967
Fly QANTAS my boi. I've always gotten a good feed on QANTAS.

>>137527362

Are you a potato nigger (Irish)? I can't stand such a high carb food for breakfast. I need some meats

>>137508825
Why is it the Chinese mass product dog shit product at Amazon...??? Communism, of course. Lack of pride of product. Lack of artistic ability in the end.

>>137528407
I'm so Irish my ancestors were transported from Dublin to Sydney as convicts for stealing 5 chickens.

My last name's Kelly.

>>137508954
>be poor boy living under nazi's
>Talk bad about the government
>Get thrown into a death camp or killed

>>137528593
>why does china mass produce????
why does anyone lol

>>137508825
Wrong. Not real communism.

China is a based fascist country, where the Han ethnic group are openly ethnocentric and are the dominant race. They exterminate Muslims in western China all the time too.

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>>137508825
>communism
Chinese economics

>>137508825
Communism works. Its goal is to rob money from productive people and give it to non productive, while the learders take power over life and death of everyone. It achieves this goal well. Libery, freedom, prosperity, justice are not its goals.
don't be mistaken, communists are not mistaken, they are criminals.

>>137508825
k.
Here, commie, let me play your tune for ya. China introduced many elements of capitalism shortly after Mao died, so, to quote you faggots, it isn't real communism.

>>137529205
Don't they still control the populace birthrate though?
Sounds like some aspects of communism are still around

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>>137508825

>>137529386

You just pay a fine. Rich people been having 3+ kids for a long time now

>>137529621
Oh. Well it certainly isn't minarchy.

>>137512618
>even chink jails are half nig

>>137508825
btfo

>>137528718
Nazis didn't have death camps though

>>137529386

>be Murica and Europe, pay niggers and sand niggers to have kids and increase taxes on the rich so they have less kids, Be china, fine people for having kids. 3 generations from now, only smart/rich chinks breed more, insuring racial superiority while the west becomes a brown cesspool

>>137508825
Wtf are you talking about? China is national socialist.

>>137529386
Depends on where you are
The one-child and two-child policy were and are quite impactful on rural families, but among the the existing and emerging urban populations having few children is par for the course; a limit on children isn't as relevant because one or two is about as much as they plan to have in the first place.
Singapore also put out policies on population control, much less directly coercive and also much more supportive than the chinese policy, and it was so successful that it nearly tanked their fertility rates. It goes to show that it's better to have a bigger carrot than a bigger stick.

>>137508825
-k. Look at how Capitalism fixed it.

>>137530203
if there wasn't a welfare state in Murica or Europe that wouldn't be an issue and white babies would flourish

>>137508825
communism for thee but capitalism for me!

>>137508825
You are so fucking retard that you must be American. China is nowadays a prime example of capitalism. Does it hurt to breath while being that fucking retard? I mean I get your commie flag. It must speak to you in volumes. Jesus...

>>137530586

Yet the upper middle class vote for more socialism despite barely able to have 1 kid on 150k combined. Face it, the west has a death wish. It's over

>>137516308
you're an imbecile
even the Chinese know they're capitalists
china is in some ways more capitalist than America

>>137531140
It's not barely being able to, it's not wanting to. Take away the immediate incentives that used to drive childbirth and instinctive drives can only do so much.

>>137508825
China gave up on communism many decades ago.

>>137532057
Xi's spoken of wanting more Marxism and in terms of policy it seems he's honest about it.
Now of course Xi's not China, and the rest of the country, well, I suppose he's fighting quite an uphill battle.

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>be communist
>capitalism sucks LOL xD
>Have to pay 3 bucks for clean air in a fucking can
>MFW

>>137508954
>Have all girls aborted because of one child policy so you have no chance of finding a mate in your life and your life is pointless and empty.

>>137532016

Because having children is expensive and time consuming if you want to do it right or you know just wing it like niggers and go on housing vouchers and food stamps. I've seen a niggres in my town with a free 3k/Month voucher for a townhouse living on gov dough because she has two kids meanwhile I work 80hrs a week to pay 40% tax and can't ever save enough for a down payment. I don't know how this hasn't imploded yet

>>137517175
No, dude, it sounds pretty gay but we need to care for each other even like this
Although I agree we need a big depopulation quickly, and preferably China or India

>>137530245
>The one-child and two-child policy were and are quite impactful on rural families, but among the the existing and emerging urban populations having few children is par for the course; a limit on children isn't as relevant because one or two is about as much as they plan to have in the first place.

Which all prevent idiocracy dysgenic breeding patterns. Rich, high IQ, people can literally pay a fine to have more children. Poor, low IQ people are limited to one (now two).

A number of features of the Chinese system neutralize pitfalls of modernity. Another one is the overwhelmingly male demographics of the Central Committee. There is effectively no female franchise in China. There will never be "refugee welcome" signs. There will never be insanely lopsided family law. There will never be female-driven appropriation of state resources to fun single motherhood.

You're nothing but a bleeding heart liberal latching onto industrial era Marxist sentimentality. Have you even read Party theory literature from the past 40 years? China could almost be described as an accelerationist state at this point. Grow up, and stop dreaming of utopia. We need economic growth, technological progress, and genetic improvement. Baring these things, we're all going to die in a nuclear hell storm initiated by 85 IQ paleo-Marxist mystery meat brown hordes under a crescent moon banner and a kike demi-God Leader.

>>137532511
what it mostly encourages is chinese males going abroad, which can actually be quite advantageous for China. Surplus males may not be useful at home, but they're always useful abroad.

>>137509614
Dense cities are fucking cancerous zits on the face of the earth. Shit holes where people own no land and live in elevated shit boxes.

>>137532916
Not to mention they can become tourist areas, which multiply the cancer tenfold.
I went to Barcelona a few weeks ago, and it looked so dirty, some of the smaller streets reeked of piss.

In contrast of one of the smaller coastal cities outside of Barcelona which were mucking comfy as hell.

China isn't really communism anymore.
It's more like a partly communist family mafia running the country. Their Frankenstein sysyem is failing and in constant danger of collapse, which is party why they are buying Canada and africa, kinda like setting a new town in civ just so you can get your gold into the single digits
Funny enough, the gooks are too robotic, even for communism
>communism turns them into drones
>they are already drones so it's like 10x
>they only care for efficiency at all costs so they throw away communism for whatever the fuck they have now

>>137533739
>mucking
phoneposter get out

>>137532537
It's not that expensive, and not even that time consuming, if one is an illiterate peasant or an old british industrial worker. Feed em only what you need then send em off into the fields or factories, let em learn on the fly and get the household some cash. Same thing here, put only little investment into your kids and you can turn a profit off government benefits, that's a very immediate incentive, one that you ain't got and that I doubt you would consider, given the effect it has on the quality of life the children receive.
Y'know, governments aren't doing well on this matter, they wanna keep up population growth but don't know how to do it whilst ensuring that growth is quality stuff. We ain't in a time period where surplus population is bodies we can throw at rivals. Right now, anyways.
>>137532597
Nah, the fine is linked to income, it's not a flat fee. The amount and the family who pays it is also publicly available information, it can be quite a scandal for the rich and a problem for ones public image. It's generally easier for rich Chinese to maintain children above the limit on the sly than come out and pay the fine, and there's always a risk it'll come out in the open.
I mean, if you're willing to take those hits you can have a family of maybe 4 children and hopefully keep your standing intact, but that's pocket change in chinese demographic history.
>Have you even read Party theory literature from the past 40 years?
I mean, have you?

>>137533739
that's not because of tourists, that's because continental euros always piss in the streets.

>>137508825
Try breathing the air in Beijing, let me know how that communism is turning out for you

http://aqicn.org/city/beijing/chaoyangnongzhanguan/

Here is your communist shilling paper agreeing that Beijing is literally hell on earth https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/apr/06/air-pollution-beijing-china-smog-britain

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>comfy villages on the mountain sides

>>137534971
No it's definitely the tourists who are cancerous.
We interrupt the locals' daily lives, we leave trash all over the place. From the airplane I could see a shit ton millions of small trash objects floating in the sea around France/Spain.

>>137532916
>>137533739

Theres tonnes of research that show people who live in cities have worse mental and physical health and happiness than those in small rural areas

Its inhuman to live like prisoners amongst strangers just so you can all goto a restaurant thats the same as the last restaurant except they changed the name and interior and youre too fucking retarded to tell the difference

>>137508825
>Using Chinese cities as Communism proof
lmao, Chinese cities are "Commerce Zones" where capitalism is allowed.

>>137518805
>56 Ethnics Minority
>Han Supremacy
>One Child Policy only for Han
>Manchus had so many Influential Position on CCP
>China was Fascist

Burger Education

>>137508825
>he thinks China is communistic nowadays

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>>137508825
It works because China doesn't have niggers. lol

Remove all the niggers in the United States, and communism will work there too.

>>137535247
yeah, and it's spaniards and frenchies who are throwing that shit around, along with other euro tourists.
You're from Denmark, you get a pass, you lot are cleaner, and I assume you gotta put up with a lot of dumb shit from tourists.

>>137512455

lmao i bet that guy thought it was end times

>>137534868
It keeps the low IQ population down.

So what's you're fucking beef with them? You think liberal democracy is any more stable? You think neoliberal economics is any more stable? Do you have a better answer for the Problem of Modernity?

>>137535946
Sure, insofar as that "low IQ population" is chinese peasants and recent urban migrants.
>compensating for your lack of knowledge on china by accusing me of neoliberalism

>>137508825
>eating dogs
Sounds great. Also they are what we would call fascists. State run private business.

>>137508825
>>137508825
>china
>communist
>Has stock market
>trades
wew lad

>>137536584
Are you denying that rural populations and farmers-turned-delivery-drivers have a lower average IQ than professional urbanites? The IQ shredder phenomenon is real, and China may have accidentally stumbled on a solution, or at least a mitigating policy.

I didn't accuse you of being a neoliberal. I asked a question. Is your solution orthodox Marxism with no pricing mechanism? Criticizing China is the easiest thing in the world. Prophesying collapse is easy. Matching 6%+ growth is harder.

>>137538454
I did not deny such, I've almost explicitly said it was the case. The most I've said was the Singapore had a more effective policy.
>I didn't accuse you of being a neoliberal. I asked a question.
yes, and that question was if I thought neoliberal policies would be better, and now you ask me if it is "orthodox marxism", however you define it. You seem to also be accusing me of "prophesying collapse." Really now, is having to speak for yourself so difficult?

>>137539013
So China IS stable and eugenic?

>>137508825
>china
>full communist

>>137539780
Eugenic? perhaps. Stable? It is generally bad for a nation with no immediate war prospects to produce too many surplus males, and this may of course become a persistent thorn in the future, as well as the matter of unregistered children and their involvement in the chinese underworld. As a matter of policy, it could have been better implemented in a variety of ways.

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>>137508825
>China
>Communist
>not real communism
get real son

>>137540238
>As a matter of policy, it could have been better implemented in a variety of ways.
I can agree with that. I think the male/female issue is less drastic than some think. Firstly, it's not an issue in the cities--the ratios there are the same as in the west. It's a problem in the rural areas, and there are methods in place to get foreign brides from Indo-China and the Philippines. Luckily, marriages of convenience are still a cultural norm, even among urbanites, let alone rural Chinese. I also think the consequences of collapsing IQ could arguably be worse than mere surplus males. I suspect the government will simply fast-track visas for male order wives if the situation gets too dire.

>>137510969
I would beat the fuck out of that guy holy fuck.
This is so hard to watch but i had to watch it twice.

and then his little sister comes out and freezes when she sees him lying on the ground.

Hope that asshole died.

>here is a long exposure of a city that has lights and cars, /pol/ well and truly BTFO by this indisputable proof that this city/country is a first world metropolis.

>>137540799
>and there are methods in place to get foreign brides from Indo-China and the Philippines
oh wow, brides from places that the chinese don't want and who don't like the chinese, that's gonna work out swell.
>arguably be worse than mere surplus males
If there is one thing surplus males understand most, it is political power growing out the barrel of a gun.

>>137510969
We need to release the Chinese on the niggers

>>137508825
Communism is letting free trade based on suply and demand happend in ones county huh? Sounds like capitalismus.

>>137522899
top kek!

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>>137508825
the more they free themselves the more prosperous they become. they are great in spite of violent control not because of it

>>137508825

China is a mixed economy that endorses state capitalism.

>>137517757
>My Chinese friend said there was no property there.
must be why the housing market is so insane huh

>>137529930
so what are nogs in china 1e-6 of the population, 3% of prisoners?

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>>137541857
>can't be a problem if they're not even in your country

>>137518919
>It's so fucking filthy that I'm surprised they don't try to sell bottled clean air.
They actually do.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-pollution-idUSKBN16O18T
>>137520012
You can have perfect blue skies one day and choke on can't see shit tier smog the next. I'd say the latter is more prevalent.

>>137530203
>smart?
Newfag detected.

>>137544179
has an ancap ring to it desu
also, they (the gov) have total control over the grid and will forcefully close factories to clear up the sky as they see fit

>>137544588
>also, they (the gov) have total control over the grid and will forcefully close factories to clear up the sky as they see fit
Also, state can decide which licence plates are allowed on the roads on which days. They use that to clean up the air before government events (like visiting presidents etc).

>>137544087
Oh yeah, the best use of surplus males is to get em the fuck out ASAP, plenty of things you can do with em outside.

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>>137517175
Depopulation is a Redpill that people have yet to swallow.
inb4 : Illuminati shill

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>Communism doesn't wor-

Not even the mainlander Chinese are this delusional

>>137516717
Selling some food at street is also business. Do they are in Party also? This small business, very capitalist, without bureaucratic burdens is what make China economy still alive.

>>137508825
Ahh leftypol, your always a good chuckle.

Look at how GDP and living standards increased dramatically after Mao died and China began to embrace capitalist policy.

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>>137508825
>1 post by this ID
>280 replies
Well done, anon

>>137508825
oh cringe you thought china was communist

>>137508825
China isn't communist, and labeling them as such warps the meaning of the term. Does anyone on this board have a college education? No? Didn't think so.

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>>137508825
Just wait until the ramifications of their one child policy really start to ramp up. Going to see this paper tiger really become the west's bitch even more then.

>>137547797
Technically, North Korea follows their own type of government they call "juche." So technically not communist.

>>137508825
>China
>Communism
That picture isn't from the 60s.

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>>137509697
Asian driving back at it again!