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The civil war was about slavery, get over it

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Why do Southerners claim the civil war wasn't about slavery?

It was clearly about the right to own slaves.

A modern day civil war would be a bunch of white people dying so that a few people could continue to hire illegals
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>>137508664
it was about many economic differences and tarrifs the north did to the south.but believe your lies,yankee.
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>>137508843
Namely slavery cuckold
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>>137508843
this, Robert E. Lee even condemned slavery as a moral evil.
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>>137508664
No, a modern day civil war would be about pitting one side against each other with the only objective of burning USA into the ground.
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>>137508664
>It was clearly about the right to own slaves.
You mean white people fought to end slavery? Hurray for white people!
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>>137508664
because it wasn't really about slavery, it was about keeping the union together.
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>>137508664
Guy do you even understand what Federalism is?
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>>137508664
So you're saying 365,000 American white males died and another 282,000+ were wounded fighting for the purpose of freeing black slaves? White males sacrificed their lives for black people? Wtf, I love white males now. I guess black people must have a soft spot for the northern white descendants of the men who died for their freedom? Right?
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>>137508664
The next one is about you committing genocide, and your opinion on the last will be irrelevant after this one.
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This confederate shit is so fucking stupid. Focus on immigration. The left will literally beat itself, all you have to do is show up and say that American citizenship is not a human right.
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kikes owned the slaves
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albert pike a jew born in boston a 33rd degree freemason was a sourthern general, the jew masons fukk the south and owned the slaves.
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Because they're delusional and/or willingly ignorant. They don't want the south to be associated with slavery so they ignore history. It was even enshrined in several of the CSA states' constitution as a god given right.
>>137509075
While owning slaves...
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>>137508664

The secession had to do with slavery, it was one of the key reasons that the south seceded even if certain specific members of the south condemned it. THE CIVIL WAR, however, was caused by the North deciding to invade the south with the intent of "maintaining the union" which they had NO constitutional authority to do.
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>>137508664
Why are you posting in /pol/?
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>>137508664
4 hundid yurs opreshun
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read the southern states' constitutions

>thread over
>it was slavery
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>>137512208
>TFW you don't know how to post on 4chan because you are a nigger worshiping shill.
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>>137508664
Because there is no gray area with slavery. It's a right / wrong kind of issue. If you engage in a little revisionist history and turn it into some kind of squabble over economics it allows to turn it into "The War of Northern Aggression" and you never have to admit that your great great grandpappy fought for the right to own people
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>>137512694
They said as much themselves you retarded nigger.

https://www.civilwar.org/learn/primary-sources/declaration-causes-seceding-states
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>>137512694

the truth hurts, Little Billy, I know it does. But it will all be over soon. Shh. Shh. Shh.
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>>137513181
Fucking idiot the main reason was because of Federalism pick up a book fucking incest dixie boy.
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>>137513234
Not the truth only the truth because your nigger overlords told you it was. Pick up a book and look up the definition of Federalism then when your IQ is above retard level come talk to me about history.
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>>137508664

Wrong.

The events of the last few days should be a wakeup call to the anti Spencer shills here that They're not welcome. They're counter-productive to our white supremisist movement. They cause nothing but problems.
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>>137501003
get in here, National Socialists!
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>>137508664
SLIDE THREAD. MOVE ON.
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>>137513380
>pick up a book
Or read what the confederate traitors had to say about it themselves you fucking mong.
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>>137508664

Abe wanted to Deport nignogs to Africa you dolt. He went to war to seize back the territory
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>>137513704
Hello Soros
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>>137508664
This guy thinks he was fighting for states rights OP. Since he was there, I'm going to go with what he said. About 12 mins in tard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHDfC-z9YaE
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>>137513852
The Donald owns this board now. Storm fags have proven they can't be trusted in public without adult supervision
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>>137508664
> SOUTHERNERS

Not all of them. It was the rich slave owners who sent their sons to fight the war for slavery, while the rest were just fighting it for their homeland.
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>>137514196
In 1941 the U.S. went to war against Germany while the soldiers went to war to protect their families the state went to war to bring down fascism. It doesn't fucking matter why the people went to war what matters is why the country left which was because they feared losing the right of the state to choose if they were allowed to own slaves or not. That is a state vs federal issue not a slavery issue just because slavery was involved does not make it the main reason behind the war. Again I state pick up a fucking book and read or you'll be the very same nigger you want to enslave.
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>>137514671
Actually jump off a bridge that is over 100 feet tall
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>>137514671
The_Donald is just an echo chamber where Trump fans jerk themselves off on how progressive they are and how much of Donald Trump fans they are. The only difference between members of the_Donald and liberals are is which president they liked the most - Trump or Hillary.
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>>137508664
Of course it was about states' rights. Do you really think white people would sign up for a war that might get them killed, just to free a bunch of niggers they never met, in fucking 1861?
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wrong, actually it was about states rights
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>>137515013
Bruh, the main issue related to states rights that is referenced is slavery. And that makes sense since it was so integral to the southern economy. But as for states rights as such, as a lofty principle, the CSA constitution was more restrictive compared to the union.

http://jjmccullough.com/CSA.htm
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>>137508664
>It was clearly about the right to own slaves.

American education.
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>>137517074
>states rights..... to own slaves

I see what you did there, nazi.
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>>137508664
only 2% of southern population owned slaves
it was about how autonomous states can really be
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>>137510168

~620,000 deaths m8 maybe your count is just Yankees. Alot more died cause they were pussies
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>>137517288
You're preaching to the choir here the seceding states were so fucking worried they went off and started a stricter government. Not saying you're wrong about the slavery argument that was a big reason why they left however it wasn't the main reason.
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>>137517534
No, it was about a State's right to secede from the Union.
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>>137510699
>While owning slaves...

A necessity to compete with other slave owners.
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>>137517545
Closer to 5%. The 2% figure includes the northern population. Also if you compare it to the number of households rather than free indivifuals, about one quarter of all southern households owned at least one slave.
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>>137508664
It was about states rights
states rights to secede
they wanted to secede for economic reasons and differences
that economic difference was using slaves to pick their cotton
>>137509075
and he still fought for the turncoat slavers
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>>137513529
the Traitor States' Constitutions are a matter of record.

>In all such territory, the institution of negro slavery as it now exists in the Confederate States, shall be recognized and protected by Congress, and by the territorial government: and the inhabitants of the several Confederate States and Territories, shall have the right to take to such territory any slaves lawfully held by them in any of the states or territories of the Confederate states
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>>137518568

>that economic difference was using slaves to pick their cotton

No the economic difference was that the South wanted free trade so they could sell cotton to Britain cheaply and the North wanted protectionism so their factories would be shielded from British competition. They were diametrically opposed economic interests and the south had no meaningful representation in government due to population differences.
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It was a war about not being told what to do. Are you against the revoltionary war also?
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>>137519014
the only reason they could sell the cotton at that price was because they wernt paying the people that picked it
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>>137510168
Fighting to abolish a moral wrong and fighting to integrate blacks into white society are two very different things.
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>>137508664
>underage children think the Civil War was about slavery

It was about states right foremost. Obviously, slavery was a part of it but it wasn't the main reason for the south wanting to secede.

If you are gonna be an underage retard the least you could do is open any history book first before killing yourself
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>>137518790
I physically cannot take arguing with 20 shills on 10 different threads... Ok read the reason they left. Not the constitution the fucking seceding amendment read it then come back when you understand what political documents are.
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The NatSocs are bad because your kike teachers have been brainwashing you your whole life about how bad they are. The point here is to change the meaning back to what it was - race idealism, natural order, the development of the white race, homogeneous society free of degeneracy. Basically everything a commie is against.

This will take some as the "Nazis" have been so vilified by the mass media and the education system (surprise, both are run by kikes) that it's pretty hard for the normies to swallow such a hard redpill. But that doesn't mean we should just give up and let the kikes win just because it's hard. We should continue fighting and sooner or later words like "Nazi" will not be synonyms for "aghhh the literal devil". Give up and we're back to square one - no white nationalism and no real prospects of white people ever being rid of the "guilt" chains that have been holding us back for the past century.
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>>137508664
Fresh off the presses dumb retard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLrtXvwPWA8
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>>137519831
Get rid of the socialism and maybe you can convert me.
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>>137508843
It usually is always about resources and economics. Slavery was a problem, but not as much as the infighting between states.
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>>137519289
False equivalence. Keeping millions of people in chains and forcing them to do your dirty work isn't morally equivalent to wanting representation in exchange for taxation.

Revolution in Rhodesia was about giving political rights to uneducated negro communists. They also didn't want to be told what to do.
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here is proof. if the south had abandoned slavery entirely, there would have been no war. no one in the north wanted to destroy southern culture. they were FORCED to, by war, when the south seceded and then ATTACKED us. sherman did what any general does: wipe up the enemy's cities with their own blood.
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FOR YOUR OWN GOOD, DON'T DARE TO TRY US AGAIN AND ACCEPT DEFEAT ONCE FOR ALL, YOKEL SCUM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G64zVSiWLTI
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>>137519770
Mississippi
>Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery — the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun.

Texas
>Texas abandoned her separate national existence and consented to become one of the Confederated Union... She was received into the confederacy...as a commonwealth holding, maintaining and protecting the institution known as negro slavery — the servitude of the African to the white race within her limits

>…all white men are and of right ought to be entitled to equal civil and political rights; that the servitude of the African race, as existing in these States, is mutually beneficial to both bond and free, and is abundantly authorized and justified by the experience of mankind, and the revealed will of the Almighty Creator, as recognized by all Christian nations…

Georgia
>The people of Georgia having dissolved their political connection with the Government of the United States of America, present to their confederates and the world the causes which have led to the separation. For the last ten years we have had numerous and serious causes of complaint against our non-slave-holding confederate States with reference to the subject of African slavery.
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>>137508664
WWII was about a gasoline boycott, get over it
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>>137508664
No it was about giving blacks the right to vote and making whites a minority in their own country.

That's why the 3/5ths amendment happened

Believing Jews. Holy fuck kid have you learned nothing. They always lie. Everything they tell you is the opposite of the truth.

3/5ths wasn't because whites were racist it was because whites were terrified of racism against them.

Like fucking South Africa. Look how awesome that's going or in any of the black cities in America..........
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>>137520968
Again I state it was about states rights in regards to slavery as well as other things such as the ability for the federal government to build a railroad without the states consent. Yes slavery was a big issue and a supporter to the main issue however it was not the main issue.
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It was about states rights. Of course, the right the south states wanted was the right to own slaves.
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Slavery was added to the cause 3 years after Lincoln's martial law/ tax war against the south had been raging and hundreds of thousands had been arrested without trial and hundreds of thousands killed...then slavery became a last minute add-on for PR.....northernern jews owned the slave ships, slave auctions and sugar cane and rum distilleries in the West Indies/Caribbean Islands....RETARDS!!!!
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>>137508664
I dunno, man. This confederacy thing is an albatross around the neck of the racialist scene. Just let it go, FFS. It's a corpse.
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The Civil war was about the Power dynamic between two very different societies. The biggest contributions were a fear among southerners that the North had too much power over the agrarian society of the south just with simple majorities in Congress.

Sure, compromises were had such as a slave and free territory would achieve statehood around the same time but it was the North imposing Tarriffs that benefited the North to the detriment to the south that was the real issue. The first issues were in the 50's with the Tariffs of Abomination and this is where "States rights" first actually came into play. Does a state such as South Carolina have sovereignty to "nullify" a law it finds unjust? A question that seems obvious today but this was a huge legal question at the time for the still young Nation. What about the right to peacefully secede?

Yes, slavery was the driving force for the economy of the south but as long as the south was agrarian and the north was industrialized, the animosity would still have existed between the two. If no slaves were ever bought to the United States it is entirely likely a Civil War would still have happened.
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>>137508664
No it wasn't. Of course all niggers deserve to be slaves but that's another story.
Heil Hitler
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>>137519770
lol pwned nigga

>can never recover
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>>137518790
Who care they were better off niggers are subhuman anyway
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>>137525067
and that's why we killed 1.65m white men, to answer that question.

all men are created equal. if you disagree, GTFO, fgt
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>>137508664

Secession was about slavery, among other things like cultural/economic differences, but the Civil War itself was about reunification and bringing the North/South back together.

If the civil war was about slavery as you say, Lincoln would've freed all the slaves with an immediate proclamation of emancipation, but he didn't do that because the war wasn't fought over slavery. End of story.

And before you trot out the usual response, "but the Southern states mentioned slavery in many of their constitutions/declarations/statements" etc., note that those things all fall under the purview of secession and the reasons whereby it occurred.
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>>137526865
>all men are created equal. if you disagree, GTFO
basically the most important idea of the last 300 years. it is not a scientific statement; nobody says that and goes into a biology report. it is a purely moral statement that does not require any more evidence than the fact that it is the basis of our justice system.
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>>137525067

Please tell me the chinese dude just hired this guy to insult him.
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>>137508664
The cotton gin did more to end slavery than the government did.
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>>137508664
> wars are only about one thing
t. historically illiterate imbecil
Of course slavery was a factor, but it wasn't exactly like volunteer troups from Tennessee and Virginia mountains were clamouring to back the slavers just so they could have more niggers in their region.
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>>137508664
STATES' RIGHTS
NOT NIGGER LIBERATION
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