What is the most redpilled denomination of Christianity?

Jehovah's Witnesses

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PENTECOSTALISM? Or PRESBYTERIANISM?

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>>137502080
The LDS Church (Mormons)

>>137502080
mormons or orthidox desu

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Pentecostal

Orthodox. There is no doubt.

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>>137502080
No dividing and conquering.

>Romans 14
"If there is someone whose faith is weak, be kind and receive him. Do not argue about what he thinks. One man believes he may eat everything. Another man with weak faith eats only vegetables. The man who eats everything should not think he is better than the one who eats only vegetables. The man who eats only vegetables should not say the other man is wrong, because God has received him. Who are you to tell another person’s servant if he is right or wrong? It is to his owner that he does good or bad. The Lord is able to help him.

One man thinks one day is more important than another. Another man thinks every day is the same. Every man must be sure in his own mind. The man who worships on a special day does it to honor the Lord. The man who eats meat does it to honor the Lord. He gives thanks to God for what he eats. The other man does not eat meat. In this way, he honors the Lord. He gives thanks to God also.

No one lives for himself alone. No one dies for himself alone. If we live, it is for the Lord. If we die, it is for the Lord. If we live or die, we belong to the Lord. Christ died and lived again. This is why He is the Lord of the living and of the dead. Why do you try to say your Christian brother is right or wrong? Why do you hate your Christian brother? We will all stand before God to be judged by Him. The Holy Writings say, “As I live, says the Lord, every knee will bow before Me. And every tongue will say that I am God.” Everyone of us will give an answer to God about himself."

>>137502517
Lets say that Jesus formed his own Church (or entrusted Peter to do so) As is obviously stated in the bible.
Then I go and form my own church that teaches virtually the same thing.
Who will get accepted into heaven?
Do I have the authority given from Jesus to do that?

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>>137502689
>John 6:37
"However, those the Father has given me will come to me, and I will never reject them."

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>>137502080
>Christianity
>redpilled

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Mormons.

>>137502500
checked for truth

>>137502689
You have the authority to do it, if you have it.

LDS claims to have it through a miracle.

Most modern US denominations don't make a big deal about the priesthood actually being traceable to the original apostles/church.

Anglicans and Catholics I know both make a big deal about it and have records they can trace their priesthood back to the apostles.

LDS believe they had a vision and a miracle and received the real priesthood in America, and the European priesthood lineage was lost shortly after Jesus left the world, and the records are fake, thus all the infighting and division.

>>137503176
>Literally born out of hundreds of years of the state feeding their leaders to lions.

Hurr, you're just a shill for the state following the jew's tricks.

>>137502080
Presbyterianism is the answer.

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>>137502080
roman catholic pre vatican II

>>137502976
Try using Context especially in John, the Christology is highest there and there is alot to be understood metaphorically.
Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
The will of God is to follow his commandments and do ordinances through HIS authority, not John's, not peter's, but Gods.

>>137502080
Judaism.

>>137503440
This is my point, I believe that it has to be Orthodox/Catholic or Mormons
Noone else makes the claim to authority of God.

>>137502380
Really?

Mormons are a retarded satanic cult and there is nothing Christian about them. Look into their actual theological beliefs. Im assuming the anons that mentioned them are either trolling or fucking retarded

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>>137502080
Lutheran. LCMS or WELS in the USA. ELCA need not apply.

>>137504219
>Mormons are a retarded satanic cult and there is nothing Christian about them
>26 And we talk of Christ, we rejoice in Christ, we preach of Christ, we prophesy of Christ, and we write according to our prophecies, that our children may know to what source they may look for a remission of their sins.

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Independent Fundamental Baptist KJV only


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksoYR7dVyfM

>>137502080
Westboro Baptist Church

>>137504219
What theological beliefs are not christian about them may I ask?

Opus Dei and it isn't even close. Read the Wikipedia and click on criticism

>>137502080
The one that follows the bible's every word.

>>137502080
Baptist. If by redpilled you mean most biblically correct.

As long as it isnt something like Mormonism, youre fine. I dont agree with all of Catholic theology but I still consider them Christians, of course.

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>>137502500
Russian Orthodox, specifically.

Orthodox Judaism

>>137504539
What is wrong with Mormonism?

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Orthobros

>>137504618
If you leave you get excommunicated by your family

>>137504448
They don't think jesus christ is the son of god

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>>137504555
Trips of truth right here.

Jehovahs and Mormons are both open borders cucks because it means that there are more idiots to harass and try to convert.

The answer is Opus Dei

José Maria Escrivá, founder of Opus Dei : after he (Escrivá) insisted that with Hitler's help the Franco government had saved Christianity from Communism, he added: "Hitler against the Jews, Hitler against the Slavs, this means Hitler against communism." - a statement that did not bar the way to subsequent sainthood. An article in the Telegraph also reports that Felzmann heard Escriva, "Vlad, Hitler couldn't have been such a bad person," the Father apparently said. "He couldn't have killed six million. It couldn't have been more than four million."

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>>137505163
wrong, read the articles of faith
https://www.lds.org/scriptures/pgp/a-of-f/1?lang=eng

Southern Baptist
Ultra Calvinism
Westboro

>>137505273
This is more of a cultural thing than religion, I know that feeling, many mormons want to help the poor retarded negros etc.
It is not in the religion, rather the Utahn Culture that is present of loving your neighbor

>>137503978
No dividing and conquering.

You're just trying to get your people to join your sect, you need to focus on bringing people to Christ.

>>137505597
Who gave you the authority to baptize? It was given to John the Baptist throught the Aaronic lineage. You do not have ANY evidence that you have the lineage.
Ezra 2:6
>These sought their register among those that were reckoned by genealogy, but they were not found: therefore were they, as polluted, put from the priesthood.

>And no man taketh this honour unto himself, but he that is called of God, as was Aaron.
Heb 5:4

>>137504374
This x1000
The bible interprets itself!

catholics are the only true church

everything else is just faggy whiney godless larpers with zero tradition or authenticity

>>137505597
Show me your line of authority and geneaology and you can baptize me in the name of God's Authority, other wise you are like Matt 7:22-23
>"Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?'

>>137506088
My opinion in terms of the 0 authenticity, however Mormons say that the authority was lost, and restored.

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>>137502080
Turkish Orthodox

>>137506353
What is Turkish orthodox?

I asked this in another thread, but it didn't get a lot of replies. So, what are your thoughts about religion being a byproduct of evolution?

>>137502080
Redpilling is about uncomfortable truths. Not "my soul is immortal and in the end there is justice" bullshit.

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>>137504268
sup confessional brother

>>137507012
Close. Religion is a byproduct of race.

Apostolic holiness

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outward_holiness

>>137502080
All traditional churches - Orthodox, Oriental, or Catholic - work.

>>137507012
chicken and egg
those without faith, if they think religion serves any purpose at all, ascribe evo psych benefits to the cultural bonds etc.
those with faith believe God created us with a natural yearing for Him, but many people find false gods that serve as horribly incomplete proxies.
it is impossible to look at modern leftism through the lens of our innate for God and not recognize the blind fervor and self-destructive ruthlessness as corrupt manifestations of faith in false idols of science, social justice, etc.

>>137502080
independent fundamental baptist

>>137502080
The nondenomination brand or the opposite of >>137508022

>>137504268
i didnt know jesus wanted us to kill people for not believing in him. Doesnt seem very "christ-like" if you ask me...

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>>137506126
My authority is from heaven, you sound like a pharisee.

>Matthew 28:18-20
"And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”

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>>137502080
>What is the most redpilled denomination of Christianity?

Paganism you fucking God-damned retards.

"Just one more stoning for Moses then I'm through, I swear. Eternity in hell is a small price to pay to tell 13 year olds that Jesus is going to torture them forever if they touch themselves at night."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNCruTB7hMU

>>137502080
your own motherfucker

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>>137506088
>tradition
Mark 7:1-2, 5-9 Then came together unto him the Pharisees, and certain of the scribes, which came from Jerusalem. And when they saw some of his disciples eat bread with defiled, that is to say, with unwashen, hands, they found fault. Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands? He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do. And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.

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>>137502080
The one without niggers.
Oh, wait. What denomination was that again?

>>137502080
> What is the most redpilled denomination of Christianity?

The one that hates Jews.

>>137502238
not christian

>>137504448
they believe there are Gods above God, and that men can become Gods, and that Lucifer is Christ's brother

>>137502380
not christian

>>137502080
>red-pilled
That's a strange way to spell True, O.P.

>>137502080
Home church

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Calvinist

>>137502080
how about you read the bible instead of putting yourself in a box

your denomination should be "whatever the bible says"

Messianic

>>137510985
>being a sodomite
Hell is for ever!

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>>137502080
Either the more crazy parts of Catholicism (there are churches in the sedavaticist movement that have Hitler as a Saint) or the russian orthodox church

Almost all Prods are cucked, and novos ordo churches too

>>137511211
Why are you offering your grab my daughter's ass, asses, to fags?

>>137502380
except they're not Christians.

>>137502080
Orthodox for sure. Had a chat about life today with an orthodox priest and it was like he was on /pol/ all his life

>>137506088
>>137508022

>Catholic

I'm saying this as a Catholic myself, Catholicism is a weird mix of Christianity with a very slight pang of paganism mixed in. No other christian denomination actively engages in Saint worship like we do, almost deifying the saints themselves.

There's a reason Santeria sprang up out of Catholicism.

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>>137503956
How can you be Catholic and reject Vatican II? Sounds like you were never Catholic to begin with.

>>137502080
The Gnostics.

Scroll to the bottom of http://truthism.com and read "The Solution."

>>137502080
Protestanism

As you're pic says, its literally Bible BASED.

Protestants believe in the Bible and only the Bible.

We don't believe all those stories and creeds the catholics and orthodox believe in that happened after the revelations of John of Patmos.
We especially don't believe in the whole voodoo trinkets and practices of the Catholics from swing smokey balls down the aisle to scapulars that protect you from burning to death.
We don't believe in all the stupid chanting from Hail Marys and more.
Jesus himself said the Jews in the temples were wrong in how they prayed chanting over and over.

If it ain't in the Bible, then Protestants believe its made up bullshit and not to be practiced or believed, nor commanded by the Lord our God.

The early Catholic and Orthodox church constructed the Bible we read today.
If every thing outside the Bible is so important and true, why didn't they put it in the final draft.

>>137511454
>church of jesus christ of latter day saints
>not christian

Christian Identity

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>>137504599
Orthodox is a Christian term

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>>137510875
This

Also:
They believe when you die you go to your own planet, must wear the sacred underwear, have many ties and roots with freemasonry, deny people into their temples unless they are members, have added books to the bible including the book of mormon, pearl of great price, and doctrines and covenants.

Mormons are not christians.

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>>137511723
This anon knows.

>>137511674
the spirit of vatican 2 is humanism and moral relativism

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>>137508022
False. Catholics are schismatics and heretics.

You got Christianity from kemet.
Why don't you follow the real gods yet?

>>137511817
read this
>>137512083
>>137510875

clearly not christian

>>137502080
Eastern orthodox

>>137510080
I love how in every thread where people quote scripture against the Catholic Church, their selection always reflects back on themselves and only demonstrates further why deviation from the church is so dangerous. Jesus was God, and the church follows the tradition set by him and the holy spirit, not by men. Meanwhile, all the other denominations have broken from this tradition, and instead follow men. The orthodox churches are really the only ones with any ability to claim otherwise. Just notice how all the protestant sects are either named after a person, or after a particular sacrament they hold above the rest and perform in a way that is not from the bible, despite continually going on about only learning from the bible. It's true that the bible is our only way of knowing the truth, but what do you think the tradition of the Catholic Church is, other than the most learned and pious readings of the bible? Just because there is infinite wisdom in the Bible does not mean we should throw out what we have gleaned for the unsubstantiated claims of lay preachers. The whole purpose of the Catholic Church as a physical institution, the purpose of this tradition, is to protect the bible from any false interpretation, to prevent a perversion of the dogma. Please note again how it is only the Catholic Church and the Othodox churches that study deeply the lives of the church fathers and the early Christian communities. Maybe the Anglicans can be included too, but even they strayed incredibly far with their first parting.

islam.

>>137511723
a lot of the early church traditions that christ taught weren't written down

not everything jesus said was written down but was simply passed down through the church tradition(the church that he founded)

>>137502080
Correct and true: Orthodoxy
Kinda okay: Catholicism
Heresy: Everything else

>>137512381
CF did nothing wrong

>>137511686
Gnosticism is one of the worst heresies. It is an inversion of God's will.

>>137512312
Yes. But according to Catholicism, Vatican II was a valid and authoritative ecumenical council, and Pope Faggot has "by divine institution, supreme, full, immediate, and universal power" over the Church. You'd better go prep the bull instead of posting here.

>>137502080
Catholic.

Red pill means truth. The one holy catholic church teaches the truth. Luther and his cronies teach lies.

>>137502380
Weird beliefs but they are generally nice people and they are prepared for when the SHTF in the real world in the form of having a one-year food stockpile and weapons.

>>137511723
>If every thing outside the Bible is so important and true, why didn't they put it in the final draft.
-The issues the early Church dealt with aren't the same as the issues it faces today
-The Bible is a very complicated book for Reverend Joe McBumfuck to halfass his own interpretation
-Drastically changing the Bible to highlight its importance for today would arguably be censorship

>>137502258
lol protestantism is gay

>>137502500
this

>>137512792
Catholicism is heresy too: Filioque, purgatory, indulgences, immaculate conception, penal substitution, papal supremacy, etc.

>>137511674
>being humble and loving all people is bad

>>137512625
lol. your cucktholicism does worse in that it follows Supreme cucks like your current pope who tries to usurp the authority of Christ.

You're going to Hell for worshipping the cuck papacy.

>>137511039
ew

>>137512959
What Vatican 2 actually said and what degenerate American hippie boomer priests implemented are two different things.

>>137512959
catholics dont believe the pope is always right and that if the pope told you to kill someone you'd have to do it

>>137502080
Jews are Khazars and not descended from the original Israelites. The original Israelites were fair-skinned.

>>137511817
>Jesus and Satan are brothers
>Jesus isn't God
You're about as Christian as the average JRPG.

>>137512312
Vatican II changed nothing about dogma. What it changed was how the Church went about communicating the dogma. If you think otherwise, you have either a faulty understanding of Vatican II, or of the underlying dogma. If you want to bring up any specific point, I'd be happy to discuss.

>>137513522
>>137513728
Undercover Jesuits detected.

>>137512625
>The whole purpose of the Catholic Church as a physical institution, the purpose of this tradition, is to protect the bible from any false interpretation, to prevent a perversion of the dogma
then why the heck does vatican II exist, in which a Jew tells the church leaders to stop being mean to gays? And why does it add such heresies like confession and intercession?

>>137513407
>the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trial, and to keep the unrighteous under punishment until the day of judgment, and especially those who indulge in the lust of defiling passion and despise authority.
>Bold and wilful, they are not afraid to revile the glorious ones, whereas angels, though greater in might and power, do not pronounce a reviling judgment upon them before the Lord. But these, like irrational animals, creatures of instinct, born to be caught and killed, reviling in matters of which they are ignorant, will be destroyed in the same destruction with them
>2 Peter 2:9-12

>>137514041
>unrelated quote
>no arguments

>>137513516
>what degenerate American hippie boomer priests
Careful anon. You're supposed to believe these are the successors of the Apostles and that they are being guided by the Holy Spirit. Or are you blaspheming against the Holy Spirit?

>>137513617
genetics say otherwise you faggot, khazars are just chinks that liked judaism

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Your honest opinions on Baptism in the Holy Spirit?

>>137502080
Presbyterianism

Branch Davidian.

>>137502080
Catholicism, Episcopalianism and to a lesser degree Lutheranism and Methodism are acceptable.

>>137513728
That's bullshit

pre vatican 2 the church taught that jesus christ through the church was the only way to salvation

post vatican 2 has catholic school students going into mosques(something you'd need the bishops permission to even do pre vatican 2) and shit and preaching that all religions "lead to the same path to god" and has popes unironically shilling for a one world government

>>137513446
Says the man with a pirate flag. There is much I do not like in the political aspects of this pope, but the dogma remains safe as of yet. And as much as I disagree with this Pope, his statements force me to analyze my own positions to make sure I am truly following God, and not myself. In that sense, his warnings have been an undeniable help in preventing me from falling to either nihilism or fascism. By having to square my thoughts with his words, I have a better understanding of where I am in the world, and what actions I need to take in my own life.

>>137514378
>implying catholic = vatican religion
Nah. If you natively speak English, the Vatican wants you gone. Don't be a fool, Anon.

>>137514441
>popes unironically shilling for a one world government
This. What ever happened to subsidiarity?

>>137514473
>it's only the vatican pontiff
>it's not the many vatican officials spread throughout the planet
Nonsense.

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>>137502500
this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wm4RlnnaOU

>>137513785
I actually am not a big fan of the Jesuits. While they do are excellent at protecting the word of God, I think they are sometimes less than helpful when it comes to the mysteries. While their devotion to the intellectual component of the faith is incredibly important, I think they are overly academic for many of the problems facing the church today.

>>137502080
I'm a SDA

>>137514793
Orthodoxy is aesthetic af

>>137502080
Baptists probably go the farthest right without actually abandoning the relative sanity of tradition (excluding de facto cults whose leaders got new words from God that call themselves Baptists), but the denomination as a whole runs the entire gauntlet from right to left.

I bet half the people on here saying Orthodoxy don't even understand Orthodoxy and are simply saying it because they think it has a cool aesthetic and le epic kebab removers Russia and Serbia are Orthodox.

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>>137513883
>Confession is a Vatican II invention

>>137514920
>While they do are excellent at protecting the word of God
>The new head of the Jesuit order, one of the most powerful figures in the Catholic Church worldwide, has claimed in an interview that the words of Jesus against divorce are “relative” and must be “discerned” according to the “conscience” of each individual.

>>137502080
I fit not into any...
they all have one thing in common:
If you're not blindly accepting Christ ypu're burning eternally.
I believe in the bible yes, but I have a far different interpretation.

i got orthodoxed with their holy water when i was a baby can i get a quick afterlife rundown

>>137515152
Yes

>>137514793
I thought the Magyars killed all the Bulgarians?

>>137515152
The Russian Orthodox Church is why beating your wife is legal in Russia now.

I believe the Russian translation of the Sermon on the Mount roughly equates to "Keep your pimp hand strong and the bitch will know her place."

>>137513883
Vatican II does not add confession and intercession. Those have been with the Church since before Jesus went to the cross. The reason the Church clarified it's stance toward Jews and Gays is because the world has changed. The issues the church faces are not the same, and so these issues deserve different communication. As an understanding of human psychology and biology as grown, the more nuanced perspective of homosexuality needs to be more effectively communicated to the masses. Likewise, after World War II, it was important to reiterate that the Jews of today, of any time except then, are not responsible for the death of Jesus, and that they should be seen almost exactly the same as any other non-Christian, recognizing that Jewish tradition is critical for understanding the meaning of the Bible, as it has always been.

>>137515164
"It" referred to the Catholic Church system

>>137515497
>Cuckgrians still cucked by Trianon and will never get their clay back

>>137506010

It does but some people are to retarded or to stuck in what their denomination tells them , because of this they will stay blind and are not open for different views

>>137513653
Well, what's the family tree going on up there, if you know that's wrong with that statement?

They are brothers in that they are the product of God. All humans are also children of God. It's how our souls are made.

>God and jesus aren't one
LDS aren't the only ones that believe that. It's an unnecessary hoop to try to wrap your mind around for no reason.

>>137515600
literally how are the jews NOT responsible for the deaths of jesus

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>>137515600
>treating the Jews the same as any non-Christian
>when so many absolutely hate Him
also as I said here >>137515639

>>137514304
oh fugg off to confession.

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>>137507417

Read the Bible yourself. Do not allow the traditions of men cloud your judgement. You don't need it read to you in a dead language. You don't need a magazine to explain what it "really means". Find a church to help out with, but ultimately it is you that is responsible for your own soul.

>>137502080
Christianity is pointless at a fundamental level

>>137502080
Mormonism

>white
>multiple wives
>many children

Based as fuck.

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>>137514041
>the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trial, and to keep the unrighteous under punishment until the day of judgment

Shit son, does Un have severe social anxiety? God is one insidious motherfucker forcing him to be worshiped and adored by his brainwashed subjects.

>>137502258
>CUT EPA!!
Fucking stupid

>CUT DEP OF ED!!
Literally fucking stupid

>MAGA
You should have figured out Trump is a conman by now

>>137514441
As I said, and as you've demonstrated, you neither understand what the position was before Vatican II or what the position is now. Every other religion is still recognized as heretical, as has always been the case. And also, as has always been the case, there is but one world and one God who made that world. There is but one truth. All people seek the truth, as has always been so. And like it has always been, the revealed truth of Jesus Christ, as attested by the apostles, is the only way of fully knowing the truth. Still, since all people seek the truth, but speaking with people of other religions, by learning their pursuit of the truth, we can see what they have right and how they came to it, and what they have wrong and how they came to it. In this way we can both gain a better understanding of how to relate to God, and also speak more clearly to them to show them the one true path. Of course, the institution itself is not perfect, and so a parochial school, even a priest at a parochial school can still err, and err greatly. The question of Vatican II was more a matter of situating the church's public expression to fit better with the changes of the world. Were not some of the territorial schools in Canada a deep perversion of the faith also? The dogma has not changed. What is wrong is still wrong, and what's right is still right. If languages and cultures change, than the Church has an obligation to figure out how best to communicate itself in that new language and culture.

>>137502080
non denominational.Christ only ever said "the Church".

all this other division spreading nonsense is heresy.

>>137516769
>>137516769
>every other religion is still recognized as heretical
no they aren't you heretic
http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2016/06/09/pope_those_who_say_“this_or_nothing”_are_heretics_/1235939

>>137502080
Pentecostal. Catholics can't be bothered to read a bible. Saints? We are all saints who believe. Read it.

>>137514667
Who all have their own perspectives and private agendas, and with whose comings and goings I am not much concerned. If those were my concerns, should I not then become a priest and make them my obligation? The pope is the head of the church, so it is my duty to pay at least some attention to what he is saying. But in most things, he is still fallible. And beyond that, even more things are too private and personal to be the direct concern of his. The daily choices of my life are unlikely to ever be directly spoken of by the pope, and so it will be my own conscious and discernment that's required to do what's right.

>>137516769
>vatican 2 happens
>40,000 priests quit
>seminaries empty out overnight
>church attendance at record low
>popes shilling for world government
>orders on how to punish priests softened leading to pedo priests because you can't kick them out

i will always support the church but it's up to us to undo all of the bullshit they've done with vatican 2

my favorite church does not pass the plate, passing the plate shames people into giving and there should be no shame when giving
evangelical presbiterian

>>137517432
How

>>137515347
And again, someone paraphrases a Catholic and Jesus to deliberately confuse what they are saying. Annulments of marriage have always existed. This is not some new teaching the Jesuits have come up with. Given the general lack of religiosity in these modern times, it's not surprising most people have a terrible grasp of just what marriage is. In a better age, there is almost no way one could marry without knowing what it was and meaning full-hearted to do it. Now, it is not so certain, though it should be. Many now are living in sin. If someone enters into an adulterous relationship, believing it to be marriage, is it better to correct that mistake, or to continue it? As always, the truth of the heart can only be known by the individual and by God, so, as always, these decisions largely rest on the conscience of the individual.

>>137502380
This by far.

And yes all mormons are Christians you fucking retards.. They believe in Christ.


I have had 3 friends who are Mormon, and they are the most racist fuckers I have ever known.

Plus they are the only modern religion where the majority of them actually practice what they preach. They are very family oriented, make a fuck ton of white babies, do not race mix, and have very rigorous moral standards.


Mormonism is the orginal redpill.


If I could bring myself to believe in that garbage I would love to join their glorious cult

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Lutheran.

>>137515389
First off, your conception of hell is deeply flawed. Second, you cannot believe in the bible and believe in something else.

>>137518135
by only going to traditional latin masses
by praying every day for the mistakes of vatican 2 to be undone

the church has survived more bullshit than this, at once time there were 3 people who were trying to be pope, we can get over this if we really try

>>137515940
The jews who killed him are responsible. The jews today are not. Still they deny Christ, despite having heard the word, but they did not kill him any more than you or I.

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>>137502080

Amish

>>137502080
Whatever sect Steven Anderson belongs to

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>>137502238

>>137518260
are you fucking joking? have you ever been to a lutheran church, they promote miscegenation for shekels. they are fucking pimps but still not as bad ass the satanic molestor catholics

>>137518598
latin masses are the way they tried to control the sheeple centuries ago
Catholics used to be banned from owning their own bibles, ya know
if you just read stuff off in a dead language you can make up whatever crap you want and get away with it, that's how they suppressed dissent for so long

>>137518254
I have to agree with you there. It is a white only fertility cult. We might as well make it the white nationalist religion

The religion of Abraham

>>137518656
they are still killing him every single second with every piece of vile filth that comes out of academia and hollywood

>>137502238
they're doctrine is so obviously false its in the name

>>137516114
When you really get down to it, how is this different from any other denier of Christ? So the Jew believes in the power of the symbol, and the Muslim thinks he can supplant him, and the Buddhist thinks he can ignore him or call him Buddha, as a matter of faith, what difference does it make? They all deny Christ's godhood. But how is persecution of the non-believer a benefit to anyone? The only person who we can totally condemn is someone who is incapable of change, someone who is wholly evil. But how, as people, can we know this in our lifetime? Jesus even speaks to this on the mount in the parable of the wheat and the chaff. It is not our place to take on God's role of judgment. Instead, our responsibility is to tend to the harvest, to spread the word and love of God so that many may come to believe. It is not our right to deny anyone the word. Fix your own sins, before you start fixing those of others.

>>137519081
>latin masses are the way they tried to control the sheeple centuries ago
this literally makes no sense
>used to be banned from owning their own bibles, ya know
no, they were banned from owning unauthorized translations, and the reason they were chained was because there was no printing press back then, every bible was laboriously written by hand, so the only way for you to own one, was to steal it

>>137502238
jehovah's are multi-cultural big time and have a weird fetish about God's name being Jehovah

>>137502080
Orthodox Christianity. You can end the thread here.

>>137502080
None. I don't worship Jews.

>>137502258
based

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Calvinism

>>137519647
christianity kept the jews out for 1500 years. the first thing they went for when deconstructing western civilization was christianity

>>137519830
based in its essential form. lutherans are pimps

>>137519625
/thread

>>137516439
Reading the bible yourself without seeking the counsel of wiser men is the epitome of letting the traditions of men cloud your judgment. People have been pondering the word of God for 2000 years. If you do not consult with others, what authority do you have to say that what you have interpreted is correct, and everything else is wrong?

>>137502080
The one Jesus taught and preached before it became an institution. Any institution preaching in the name of God is false.

>>137519269
pure psychotic

>>137519000
But the coffee. Not that it matters because Lutherans don't even go to church.

>>137502080
Empiricists.

>>137519529
If there is someone conspiring to undermine your organization, wouldn't you at least warn your fellow members? The Jews go beyond disbelief and into hatred of God, intentionally propagating atheistic and heretical religion.

>>137520182
I go to a lutheran church ocassionally because it is the religion of my ancestors. It is absolutely disgusting. they are directly pimping immigration and multiculturalism for shekels. This church I go to in a downtwon urban area. everyone who goes there is either 70+ or a mixed race couple. and the pastor openly talks about how they form a 501c to apply for money

>>137517169
You clearly didn't read his actual words, and instead just looked for the sensational headlines. He is speaking directly to those who would be zealots of ritual--those who demand only perfection, and accept nothing less; those who are so focused on the orthodoxy of small matters that they are heretical in the large ones; the ones, like you are doing now, who refuse to see the multitudinous ways of God.

>>137519529
if the early church had this "only god can judge" mindset, the church wouldn't even exist

they would have been blown the fuck out by any of the early herecies of their time be it gnosticism or arianism

there's a big difference between "don't be a hypocrite and fix yourself before you try to fix others" and "blaspheming god is okay"

It's Mormons.
Why does it matter if the Book of Mormon is true or not?
They don't engage in any degeneracy and they emphasize making white babies.

>>137520972
mormons are absolutely based. they are a white nationalist fertitlity cult. we should make them our national religion, if only they could stop acting like such faggots, but I guess that is how they make so many white babies

>>137520649
Name it mate.

I ran a whole phone thing here for multiple days. Fuck the local Catholic charities, and there are others, fuck them as well.

Fuck them. My state governor seems to think he has the cover of the tribe. This is going to be good.

>>137520972
mormons are almost like white jews but not quite as vicious and more fertile

>>137518254
Mormons are a cult. If you believe otherwise, you are mistaken. Their doctrines do not match up with the Bible in the slightest. Read it.

>>137521316
Take a trip to Utah. Mormons are all about white death.

>>137521299
they are asking for the oven as much as the kikes, its the fucking boomer generation, they have single handedly destroyed 1500 years of western civilization

>>137521602
Name it, mate.

>>137512789

Everything important we needed to know is in it , jesus preaches for around 3 years offcourse not all events are written in 28 pages

>>137520782
No, he's finally agreeing with Christ on something.
John 3:16:
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Catholics: There is no salvation outside of the church.
So who's right here? God? Or the Church? Don't be so rigid in your ways, heretic.

>>137521477
I live in vegas. For being about death they make a fuck ton of white babies. the religion seems creepy so I have never gotten involved, but it doesn't look like a death cult to me. it looks like a fertility cult

>>137520649
Definitely a filthy ELCA church.

>>137521873
Vegas is shit. Try real Mormon places.

>>137515568
It's not even legal... They just made the punishment of a first-time domestic assault equal to that of assaulting a stranger (punishment increases for subsequent assaults)

>believing burger propaganda

>>137522125
vegas is indeed shit, but there are plenty of mormons, they have been here since the 1800's

>>137512789
that's hearsay, and the Pharisees were guilty of the same thing, only they claimed it was God the Father who told Moses extra things beside the Ten Commandments which are passed though oral tradition.

>>137522312
Maybe you shouldn't act so much like a Jew.

>>137502080
Non-denominational

>>137517432
After the counter-reformation, there were many wars. Was the reformation wrong? The building of St. Peters led very directly to Luther's revolt. Should it not have been built? The institution of the Church lives on a very different time scale than any of us. The popes must consider not just the faithful of the day, but all the faithful of the past, and all the faithful yet to come. While many priests quit after Vatican II, the quickening march of Modernism/Post-Modernism and Consumerism all but guaranteed the death of the Church unless something was done. It is not Vatican II that led the Baby Boomers in America, or their peers abroad away from the Church. In fact, Vatican II is the very thing that helped retain almost any of them. The church I attend now is very active among teens. All of our priests are very young, and it's clear they see this particular parish as fresh soil. Our songs are all different, and they're really not to my taste, but the homilies are strong, and we have more people at each and every mass. After the psychological discoveries of the past two centuries, the Church must address the subjective nature of experience, and after the developments of material science, the church needs to teach the metaphysical reality of our world to more people than ever. Again, what's being taught is not new. It's some of the oldest understandings of the church. But until very recently, they were simply more than most people needed. To a medieval peasant, it would not matter how to describe Genesis in terms of its metaphysics. Now it is very necessary. What is required of the Church is changing, and it is the task of the church leaders to see beyond today.

>>137519315
If you believe that Jesus can be killed now, than you do not really believe. The practitioners of yoga who deny Christ do the same as the pornographers. All heresies lead away from God. That is why they are called heresies.

>>137522724
>metaphysics

thats some new age bullshit what kind of fucking church are you going to

>>137522554
being critical is not being a jew. you just think it is because you have a low IQ. being a jew is about moral relativity and destroying anyone who is not jewish regardless of principals. I will stand on principals, but I will not fall by them. I will defend myself, my family and my race

>>137511284
>orthodox

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/9064139/Declared-a-saint-the-anti-Hitler-activist-beheaded-by-Nazis-at-age-25.html

>>137502080
Unitarianism

>>137502080
Bible is blue-pilled Jew-trash.

Orthodoxy is the only true Bible.

>>137511945
No it isn't retard.

>>137520570
You act as though Jews are a single homogenized and organized group, when they are not. Anyone who does not work for God, works against God. Sowing chaos and distrust is not helpful. The whole point about the wheat and the caff is that if you go trying to weed out the chaff now, before final judgment, you are all but guaranteed to pull up the wheat along with it. That would be a grave tragedy. It is better that you instead try and help all the wheat grow. Though the weeds might grow also by your works, will not God separate them at the final judgment?

>>137523212
White rose had like every Christian denomination amongst their ringleaders
Scholls were Lutherans
Probst was Catholic
Schmorell was Orthodox

>>137521411
pray tell, thats not an argument, I have read the bible many times, name one thing that doesnt fall in line

>>137522344

This , replace these verses with idols and its a done deal the catholics are the new pharisees

Tradition and Vain Worship

(Mark 7:1-13)

>1Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying, 2Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread. 3But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? 4For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death. 5But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; 6And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition. 7Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,

>8This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.

9But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

>>137523133
I have a high IQ.

Jews are shit. They're really awful.

>>137520942
And you didn't read what I said. If you are blaspheming and worshiping idols and comitting heresy, then how can you properly determine what others are doing wrong? How can you lead other people to God if you are walking the other direction? We are all of us flawed. This does not mean that we cannot help others, nor condemn sin. But as you judge, so shall you be judged. What you judge harshly shall also be judged harshly in you.

>>137523547
because when I can make a judgement it is because God gave me the discretion to do so and I will damn well execute.

>>137523547
It is evident that not all Jews, but a group of elite Jews (celebrities and wealthy businessmen) are working against wester society and the Christian faith. The bible foretells of the Antichrist coming when the temple in Jerusalem is rebuilt for the third time, something so many Jews want to accomplish. I am not encouraging persecution of Jews, only awareness, so the faithful can guard themselves against the Jewish tricks.

>>137502080
Pedophilia.

based Christians!

>>137524079
You're an inbred moron. If only Hitler really had implemented the genetic systems.

>>137523972
so was charles martel a jew when he rallied the french to turn back the muslim invaders? should he have followed christ's example and turned the other cheek?

>>137524384
I don't know about this. Tell us.

>>137524327
Israel persons are always the smartest
Bless u greeat Israel warrior

>>137523972
IQ doesn't mean anything outside the test you took.

Even if you took a bunch of tests, your average IQ is still only relevant to those tests.

Faithful Jews are chronic liars (as are any "bible" worshiping religion including Islam). However, people who identify as "Jew" is as irrelevant as people who identify as "Christian". If they are not faithful they are just scared of being an outcast.

>>137523986
You make some good points like worrying about ritual being pointless (I remember some video of an old priest saying that all the new catholic priests aren't real priests because literally -one- word was changed in the stuff they have to say to become a priest) but this moral relativist bs is so awful and reeks of judaism to me

>nobody is perfect and you're a sinner too
>therefore you have to let evil fester everywhere you go and never do anything about it

It's like saying you can't clean up a pile of shit because you have a stain on your shirt

>>137523820
have you been reading this thread? There's plenty

>>137524693
>reee
>iq means nothing goyim
>reee

I'm sorry I triggered you, you fucking piece of shit genetic trash.

>>137502080
ANGLO Christianity.

>>137524153
they are all part of it. it is their fucking tradition. you are correct that only a few elite are consciously aware of what they are doing, but the jews have found a way through hundreds of years of survival to take advantage of western europeans sense of individualism and universalist moral principles such as charity and justice for all. jews are highly collectivist and morally particularist "ie morality is whatever is good for the jews". through their years of tradition they instinctively know just how far they can push the goyim before triggering a collective response. but obviously they are greedy and always push to far. it is the goddamns history of their people read the old testament thats what it is there for

>>137521826
Again you understand neither. The Church keeps the apostolic tradition. It is by the apostles that we can know Jesus Christ. Outside the Church, you will find endless heresy. If you follow heresy, you will not know Jesus. If you believe in heresy, you will not be believing in Jesus Christ. Is it possible to believe in Jesus Christ outside of the church? Theoretically yes. But how will you arrive at that belief if you follow a crooked path? You certainly might, but you cannot trust in it. At a time when Christianity dominated Europe, and all men actively believed in something, it was defintiely right to say you would not find salvation outside the Church. The only things men had to follow were there beliefs, and all the other beliefs were heretical. Perhaps you could have gotten lucky, but at the end of the day salvation requires a full belief in God, and the only group that can show you the way to the whole truth is the Catholic church. It is not a belief in the form of the Church that is necessary, but the form of the Church bends all souls towards God. If you somehow arrive by a different way, you will hold all the essential beliefs of the Catholic church. To recognize this synchronicity would not appear to be strictly necessary.

>>137524342
sure faggot, that makes perfect sense, how the fuck would that apply to me? my ancestors are german

>>137524965
Yes, you are right. All are working against their messiah by denying him. Only some are truly malevolent in doing so. Most are kept in the dark or willingly keep themselves there.

>>137525112
What were their names?

>>137523018
You do not understand what metaphysics is. Metaphysics is one of the oldest branches of philosophy, and has been central to theology since the beginning of the Church. Even the early church fathers recognized that the stories of Genesis could not be understood in terms of our current and physical view of time. While parables are moral in nature, they teach us metaphysics, they teach us what really is, not what appears to be.

>>137513728
V2 is literally satanic.

>>137523953
pharisees hearts were completely perverted and removed from god

i fail to see how the catholic churches heart is perverted and removed from god even if they do have some traditions which are "extra biblical" though it's not like Joe Shmoe made them up out of thin air, the traditions were developed during the apostolic era, and the apostles were the ones who lived and walked with christ

>>137525229
Roeder from one side. and like I am giving you my actual last name faggot. I'll give you a hint though it means strife auf deutsch

>>137524079
How do you say God gave you this discretion? By what means? He specifically teaches against this many times. God is beyond reason, for he is the source of reason. That you might reason a thing does not make it so. You confuse God's will for your own.

>>137504374
This!

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>>137503176
>Being this much of a fag

>>137502080
>Christianity
>Redpilled
Get on your knees to pray to that dead Jew.

>>137525033
>If you somehow arrive by a different way, you will hold all the essential beliefs of the Catholic church. To recognize this synchronicity would not appear to be strictly necessary.
I fully believe I am a sinner saved by Christ. I do not believe in intercessional prayer. I actually believe it contradicts scripture; John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. If I have confessed my sins to Christ and accepted him as my savior, but disagree with the catholics on many issues such as intercessional prayer, which has no bearing on salvation, am I saved?

>>137515600
>literally cucking for the (((chosen)))
>not realising the sodomite problem in the modern age
>giving pagans another reason to bitch about Christians
>Muh Judeo-Christian tradition
I had thought of joining a congregation, possibly catholic before this, but if it's all Muh Jewish spirituality I'm not interest, I might as well take up Hinduism as they're both foreign and at least Hinduism has strong ties to the indo-Aryan tradition tbqh.

>>137525033
>you will not know Jesus.

They did not know jesus that was the whole point of why the reformation started they kept jesus in a bible the people could not read and their masses also where in a language the people did not understand . If you want to know jesus there is only one thing you can do and that is read the bible

99% of the cucks here don't know what they're talking about. Brainwashed by Marxist teachers and Saturday morning cartoons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJp_uVNhujo

>>137525221
Only in the west...

Israel literally supplies and funds terror orgs in the ME that contribute to the destruction of ancient Christian territories. One of the classics was Israel arming nusra in the golan heights region. Maloula was taken over by Nusra around 2013-2014 and is one of the last places where Aramaic is still spoken. Fortunately it was liberated by the Syrian army, Hezbollah, and the SSNP

They also have provided airstrikes against forces fighting isis

Israel is just as complicit in these events as the Saudis or Turks, they just receive less attention

>>137525713
one can very easily confuse God's will for their own, that is why sobriety and the gifts of the holy spirit are such precious things. However, God's will is not to stand by and watch evil occur while you have the strength to prevent it. I do not have to be crucified because Christ already suffered for me but I know that I can withstand any torture that man can conceive because Christ is beside me

>>137502080
>turn the other cheek

Seems like a pussy belief

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Independent baptist

>>137526167
Wow, you quoted a fraction of a scripture and have no clue on what the hell you are talking about...

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>>137526003
>I might as well take up Hinduism as they're both foreign and at least Hinduism has strong ties to the indo-Aryan tradition tbqh

Good goy.

>>137502238
Yes

>>137525413
I've always wondered about the ages of people in genesis, are they literal or do they mean something?

>>137524627
thanks a lot, goy in ID

>>137526167
not when taken in the context that it was meant. it means that you can withstand any torture and ask for more because Christ has already suffered for you.

it means you fear neither starvation nor the elements. it menas you dan't care for money or security. if someone asks for your coat, you can give them your coat and your shirt because you know the Lord will provide you with what you need.

It does not mean you are a fool and will suffer evil willingly

>>137524153
And so are the Mormons, and the Scientologists, and the Atheists, and the Hindus, and the Communists. You certainly should not be taking the interpretation of Revelations into your own hands without serious study and prayer. Of all the books, it is the most complicated. It specifically warns readers not to do what you are doing--that is to use it prophesy the end times in such a literal and slap-dash fashion. You want to warn of Jewish tricks, but are still not able to see the tricks of your own mind. Your exegesis is weak and selfish. Instead of taking on this imagined role of yours, practice a more honest discernment. If you care so much about warning of heresy, why do you concentrate on the source of the heresy, instead of showing the flaws of the thinking and theology? Why does it matter whether the tricks are Jewish or Norse? Do not concern yourself with the source of evil; concentrate on the source of good.

>>137525713
1 Corinthians 2:14-16 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.
When we become saved by Christ, we become saints, capable of divining the truth through the reason God grants us.

>>137504374
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2PyeIt3CeE
steve anderson is direct misinformation, and biblicaly illiterate.

>>137526548
it doesn't matter if the tricks are jewish or norse, but that doesn't mean that you suffer the jewish tricks like a fool just because of some fucked up sense of cultural relativity

>>137524718
>It's like saying you can't clean up a pile of shit because you have a stain on your shirt
Not what I'm saying at all. What I'm saying is make sure there's no shit on your hands before you try wiping the shit off your brother's shirt.

>>137526511

Oh fuck lmfao

(((/pol)))

>>137525459
hqp

>>137526647
amen

>>137526459
it is entirely speculation, but something about the antediluvian environment may have been conducive to the lengthening of the human lifespan

>>137525413
>fter the developments of material science, the church needs to teach the metaphysical reality of our world to more people than ever. Again, what's being taught is not new. It's some of the oldest understandings of the church. But until very recently, they were simply more than most people needed. To a medieval peasant, it would not matter how to describe Genesis in terms of its metaphysics. Now it is very necessary.

Please elaborate on this.

Also, I am Anglican. I am very interested in what you have to say, especially on the topic of metaphysics. I am hungry for proper reading material on the topic, as the latest findings in physics (specifically quantum mechanics) seem to really give new dimension (no pun intended) to the allegory in not only Genesis but some of the things Jesus stated in the New Testament as well. I've been ruminating over the idea of time lately too.. Jesus' conception =
the "Big Bang"? etc. Sounds silly, I know.

P.S. Are you the young Roman Catholic priest from previous threads? I want to email you if you're comfortable with that.

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>>137502080

gnosticism

gospel of thomas
hymn of the pearl

stop believing
know and be known

>>137525592

If the son of god cpuld not convince them how can i ?

>some traditions

some traditions? you catholics have so much blood on your hands, while jesus said not to i dont understand why anyone with a good heart even wants to be catholic , its more then just tradition the catholic church is a power hungry beast what has nothing to do with jesus and more with satan

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>>137526868
Right. But the moral relativist would say that you can never be certain that you aren't dirty and can thus never do anything to help anyone but yourself.

>>137527089
you know the shit about the sons of god and the daughter of man right? that was the original sin and that is what gave them long life, but they originally had eternal life

>>137527201
why do you think this

>>137523820
God of your own planet after death is enough of a contradiction. There is only one God and He says He is a jealous God. You must be retarded to wonder the answer.

>>137527298
God is against miscegenation. That is what the flood was all about

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>>137512959
the Catechism states that as so long as you can prove that the Pope is a heretic, he is annulled and was never a legitimate pope to begin with, not to mention that Vatican II was prophesied of you silly cuck
http://www.stjosephschurch.net/leoxiii.htm

>>137527201
This communist pope has been exposed already, and it relates to Hillary Clinton.

People still don't understand what's going on. We've been trying to tell them for many years. Bu they're fucking stupid. They don't know what's going on.

>>137527597
the pope is as kiked as Larry David

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>>137527193
Iranaeus knew Apostle John. And Said that Gnosticism is heresy

>>137526548
>If you care so much about warning of heresy, why do you concentrate on the source of the heresy, instead of showing the flaws of the thinking and theology? Why does it matter...
Why does the identity of a murderer matter in a murder case? Shouldn't we just denounce the murder and get on with it? No, we try the killer and execute or imprison them so they can't do any more harm. The same is true for the Jews. We have to expose them as liars so no one believes their propaganda filth.

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The one that encourages you to honour your own ancestors and to not be an egalitarian, proto-Marxist, death cult faggot.
Oh that's right I forgot - (((there isn't one))).

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>>137527352

Think? its all in the history books or do you deny history?

>>137527801
Christianity is what kept the jews out for 1500 years. Ever hear of the inquisition? When they began the deconstruction of western civilization after WWII what the fuck do you think they went after first? Christianity

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>>137527675
Remember this guy? He has a world meme database.

Or maybe he's an accessory to the crime.

>>137528123
No, he needs to drop about 30 pounds though

>>137527680
>Knowing or experiencing a miracle is heresy.

This is when you know a religion is a cult.

>>137525903
How can I say? That is the position of the Church, and it is my position. I worry that by not believing in intercession, you might harden your heart to the full meaning of Christ's love and God's Glory, but only you and God can know the full depths of your heart, and only you can answer for yourself. As far as intercession goes, the whole point is that some have already found their way to God--they have followed God's footsteps. As flawed people, it can be difficult to find God's meaning and purpose for us, but if we reflect upon the saints, if we follow what they have told us about God, if we pray to God through them, we will find our way to God. After all, if they are in heaven, if they are with God, how could they know any other way but God's? We do not pray to Mary, we pray to God through Mary. No one can know God more intimately than Mary, and she is there in heaven, no one closer to God than she. No person has ever lived more in the light of God than she. How, by following her, could we be following anything other than God's way? After all, her grace comes from God and God alone. Think on the Roman Soldier who says to Jesus, "I am not worthy that you should enter under my roof" or the woman who knows she will be healed if she but touches the hem of his robes. Think of your own life--how do you know anyone except by being introduced through another? It's true, we know our parents without intercession, but such a child-like faith is a challenge for many. It is not that intercession is necessary, but rather that it is possible. There are few better ways to come to know Jesus than by knowing those who already know him.

>>137502080
If you're going to pick a religion based on being "redpilled" Islam is probably your best bet. And it goes to show how stupid the concept of "the red pill" is, and how it's even more stupid to pick a religion on that basis.

You can't just pick a religion.

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>>137528328
Hey satan can work wonders too the Catholic Church is built on that shit, of course Satan is real. Meanwhile, people who knew the Apostles hated Gnostics,.

In my opinion, faith, prayer and living a moral life are enough to get to heaven. Almost every church has become corrupted- Anglican and Catholicism specifically are garbage.

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>>137525775
Hitler was as (((Christian))) as Donald Trump, you moron. He literally only posed as one to get elected as it was impossible back then to be popular with the normies if you weren't at least pretending to be one.

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>>137528483
To clarify I'm saying that the Roman Catholic Church has always rightly ackowledged the reality of Satan's wonderworking and is a central and necessary part for the Churhc to save souls properly from Satan's deception

>>137528622
thats probably why he lost. if he had the power of christ and the holy spirit on his side he might of prevailed. you cannot just cast off the entire wisdom of the last 1500 years because you thought of some shiny new idea

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>>137528622
Hitler said in many speeches and in Mein Kampf that he was a Roman Catholic, both of which we can verify that he actually wrote and said. Otherwise "quotes from Hitler" are suspect and should be since if this is true then you are calling Hitler a liar and HItler despised Liars, you would be making him out as a hyporcrite and Hitler was a good man.

>>137528108
this fucking meme again

i dont think even the biggest apologists fall for this one

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>>137527954

in 500 it was already there constantine conquered by the sword under the cross , the thing jesus hates

>>137526047
What about before there was a book? Are you saying no one could be saved before all the stories were collected, sorted, and written down? Certainly there were early Christians who had not known the complete gospels. Did they know no salvation? And there were more than four Apostles. All of the 12 were commanded to go out and spread the good news. If you did not know Jesus through the four testaments we know now, or through the acts (some of which had not happened), can you not be saved? The church did not ban people from learning Latin, or form reading the bible. But they kept it in Latin, because they did not want any of the meaning to be lost. Now, we have enough understanding that we can have mass in native languages, and still be able to pull the original meaning from the Latin. That was a change that needed to happen. Likewise, it was necessary to keep it in Latin for a time, otherwise the faith would have splintered completely before it even began.

>>137528999
while dilating their neovaginas. The lord is our strength. We have all the power we need to destroy these demons

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>>137528902
Explains pic

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>>137529060
Wrong Theodosius was the one who banned Paganism, but the law states, and Saint Ambrose and Augustine both verify that you were not forced or required to be a Christian, in otherwords be baptized nor to worship God.

If we have to consult concerning military affairs, the opinion of a man experienced in warfare should be waited for, and his counsel be followed; when the question concerns religion, think upon God. No one is injured because God is set before him. He keeps his own opinion. You do not compel a man against his will to worship what he dislikes. Let the same liberty be given to you, O Emperor, and let every one bear it with patience, if he cannot extort from the Emperor what he would take it ill if the Emperor desired to extort from him. A shuffling spirit is displeasing to the heathen themselves, for everyone ought freely to defend and maintain the faith and purpose of his own mind.

- Saint Ambrose on forced conversions

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>>137528665
Catholics are just bible-thumping pseudo-Jews.

Jews worship anti-christ.

>>137526003
If you bring your preconceived notions with you in your search for the truth, then why do you search? You will find nothing but what you already have. If you know that what you have is not complete, then why do you cling to it at all? Certainly, if any of what you have now is true and you give it up for the whole truth, whatever you lose will be found again. If you are unhappy in life, it is worthwhile to examine closely what you cling to most fervantly.

>>137529133
and in any event we all get one last chance when Christ returns to raise the dead. You can't have free will if you don't have the ability to know Christ

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>>137528017
Christian kings also accommodated Jews in their courts so that they can get loans, they only kicked them out because they couldn't be bothered paying them back. And yes, Christianity has picked up some moral doctrine and native European rites and traditions because of its relative close proximity with Europe, but that still doesn't excuse its origins as a Semitic death cult.

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