/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL

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>>137486592
Chicago>Austrian

Fight me

>>137486592
Who here /PaleoLibertarian/ ?

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>>137486868

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>>137486592
eternal reminder before we inevitably get strawmanned into supposedly supporting open borders or other bullshit by (((left-libertarians)))

pretty sad that you didn't include any book about economy and the monetary system in there, the theory of credit and money by mises is fine though doesn't strictly cover modern central bank policies

Bumpcoin added.

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xth for space dildos

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>Open Borders Are an Assault on Private Property | Lew Rockwell
https://mises.org/library/open-borders-are-assault-private-property
>Open Borders: A Libertarian Reappraisal | Lew Rockwell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5wZjdEl9F8
>Nations by Consent | Murray Rothbard
https://mises.org/sites/default/files/11_1_1_0.pdf
>Natural Order, the State, and the Immigration Problem | Hans-Hermann Hoppe
https://mises.org/system/tdf/16_1_5.pdf?file=1&type=document

>>137486907
>Paleo mascot is a extinct type of elephant
As a Paleo, this is very fitting sadly. We kinda need a new symbol.

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>>137486745
>trusting the government with anything
Not even once

>>137486745
Even though he was a jew, Milton Friedman was right about monetary policy. Austrians were wrong.

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>>137487103

>>137486868
almost all of us.
>>137486745
chicago school is globalist left libertarian bullshit. Muh "free" markets make us MORE equal!

>>137486745
Wrong.

How can you be """libertarian""" if you don't support freedom for each and every individual?

>>137487509
but... that's what we do. you're an anarcho-collectivist.

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THE WEST MUST BE SAVED!

RESTORE YOUR PRIDE, RESTORE YOUR CULTURE!!

STATES RIGHTS!! https://youtu.be/hCIc5ymZai4 [Open]

CUT EPA!!


CUT DEP OF ED!!


MAGA

>>137487457
Austrians like Jeffrey Cucker make this argument all the time.

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>>137487205
Sowell, a chicago economists doesn't trust the government with anything. He just believes if the government is gonna intervene, and it was ran by an all benevolent being, there are beneficial things it could do. It's just not humanly possible.

>>137487457
Neither Sowell or Friedman believed in an complete open border society. Especially if there is some form of welfare.

>>137487616
ssshhh their doublethinked version of freedom is slavery, Orwell would be proud

>>137487616
you mean freedom for some individual (((business owners))) to deprive everyone else of freedom

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>>137487950
No one can force you to do business with a business owner.

>>137487691
he's sold his soul to leftism, he used to trash lincoln but now he's a social justice fag, just like chicago school kiddos are today. Real austrians are Mises, Rothbard, and Hoppe.

tucker is irrelevant, him and the libertarian party are the anti thesis of /lrg/ and real libertarianism.

>>137487380
What a shit introduction to libertarian ideas

>>137488204
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You have absolutely no idea what the difference is between chicago and austrian is, do you?

News flash: both sides have open border cucks.

the government shouldn't be able to prevent me from finding the cheapest source of labor anywhere in the world and importing it so i can defeat my competitors or at least force them to start doing the same just to compete with me

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>>137488268
could you suggest some improvements

>>137488268
Fuck you, how? it's for all those people that always make bullshit claims or ask dumb questions in the presence of an anarcho-capitalist, like about how corporations would just take over. It's about anarcho-capitalism IN EFFECT specifically.

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>>137488509
Keep it on your property buddy. If one dirty mexican crosses into my land for a second you're getting tomahawk missile'd so hard you'll be begging the state to come and save you.

>>137488268
Don't criticize unless it's constructive. Provide an alternative.

>>137488972
ill be wealthier than you because nationalism wont hold me back, i hold no loyalty other than to myself and my money/power

>>137489695
I'll be wealthier than you because the people would rather trust a man with loyalty and connection to his people rather than a sociopath that only cares about money.

>>137488122
unless all property is owned by business owners then you can't not agree to their terms if you can't physically leave

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>>137489950
So buy your own property then.

>>137489907
but if you're wrong then the world descends into a sociopath controlled world

>>137490080
but what if I'm born on property where the property owner won't pay me enough to leave

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>>137490264
>born on property
And you think this gives you power?

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Imo, libertarians should be in favor of gradualism and not advocate for anarcho-capitalism publically. Anarcho-capitalism is too extreme for your average person and counterproductive to the ideological conversion process as we stand now. The end goal should be achieving a freer society and something like a Ron Paul republic is much more of an achievable goal in the short run. Minarchism too is more digestible idea than ancap. We should always maintain that the state is needed for society to function until we have finally come to a minarchist society. Once we have reached that point and only then should anyone call for anarchy.

>>137490400

no I think it gives me no power since the property owner has it all and thus stolen your liberty

>>137490264
Legs cost nothing to use, just walk out of his property.

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>>137487380
This is fake and gay. Minarchism is the true path. Ancap societies descend into feudalism.

>>137490523
what if the business owns the whole city? the whole continent?

what if they don't let people leave?

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>>137490459
>AnCap is too radical
>stormfags are literally going full 1488
wut?

>Ron Paul republic
Agreed.

>gradual dissolution of the state
Ok fine you're not a faggot, here's your (you)

>>137490633
>What if they don't let people leave
That's a state. Are you retarded?

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>>137490633
>what if the business owns the whole city?
Walk out.

>the whole continent?
Walk to the shore then take a boat. Or swim.

>what if they don't let people leave?
Then they have violated the NAP and you can McNuke them.

>>137490261
>sociopath controlled world
That is the case right now in the real world, but it is not due to voluntary association. its because sociopaths use coercion and violence to gain power.

you're still getting tomahawk'd btw.

>>137488509
The problem is that there are a multitude of currencies being manipulated by governments in their own favor, various levels of standards of living and economic freedom, state subsidies to certain companies and counter trade restrictions that complicate the whole process.

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>>137490080
The snek cannot comprehend the commons

the snek is just a monarchist that wants to hit the reset button

Website should be in OP

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>>137490983
Monarchy wasn't all that bad, the biggest problem was the serfdom, which would violate the NAP in Ancapistan.

>>137491092
What website?

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>>137490896
>That's a state

OH REALLY??

>Then they have violated the NAP and you can McNuke them.

and if you were not allowed to earn enough to afford a mcnuke by said business owner?

>>137490691
Would you agree that your average person is more in favor of having a state rather than anarchy? Would you agree converting people to our cause if of vital importance?

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>>137490509
>>137490633
Here we go.
>the property owner has all the power
This is a mischaracterization. The property owner owns the property, not necessarily everything on it, especially people. You are 100% entitled to your body and labor, including the freedom to leave said property without payment, assuming you haven't collected anything of material value.
>the business owns everything
Monopoly is pretty frowned upon by AnCaps and libertarians.
>he doesn't let people leave
That's a violation of the NAP and due process, and he would be liable for damages including lost wages. Since you're a worthless gommie, he stands nothing to gain from keeping you on his property, especially when faced with the risks of doing so.

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Honestly lads, what can be done about antifa? After the inbred retard drive his car into a bunch and swing the media reaction, it seems as though we'll suffer a thousand year Antifa reich

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>>137491217
>average person more in favor of state than anarchy
I would add the caveat "for now", but sure.
>converting people to our cause is important
100% agreed. We are not stormfags. We understand how the market of public opinion works. We will adapt to the times and we will persuade and bribe people to our side, because we are smart and economical.

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>>137491181
the snek claims to see liberty but is blinded to it by rothbardian perversions of natural rights

>>137490459
Not to mention it creates unnecessary division between libertarians when we should be united with a firm message.

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>>137491776
Give it a week and wait for Lauren Southern and Sargoy to say #notallwhites and we'll be right as rain, and this time no nazis to cause problems.

>>137491781
That's what I am saying, don't really abandon ancap completely. Just keep it on the ideological backburner until we actually start moving in the right direction.

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>>137487950
A business owner selling goods in exchange for capital isn't depriving anyone of freedom.

Violent trade unions and syndicates that coerce innocent workers into cooperation, on the other hand, most certainly deprive everyone else of freedom.

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>>137491805
Self-ownership is what forms the core of the snek ideology. Heck, it even says so in the pic you posted.

>>137491185
Libertarianright.org

whites need to go extinct so we can have a globalized , free market

capitalism is simply the greatest system, if only there weren't jews, then we'd have capitalism without sex in media, political correctness, immigration, and women workers

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>>137486592

political compass

>>137492026
But antifa have actual martyrs now, somehow they've become the good guys. Then again they've always been depicted as peaceful "anti racists" well yeah mate but there Also marxists

>>137492398
its dead, we cant get to the guy who hosts it.

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>>137491776
Let them kill each other. If it really gets that bad, I wouldn't be opposed to a revitalized Free State Project in which we move into a sparsely populated state and secede.

>>137486592
I use to be a natsoc but I'm thinking about switching over. Will you guys take me?

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>>137492441
fuck off you cosmopolitan trash.

>>137492074
yes but snek stops short of its logical conclusion and embraces the royal privilege of state granted land titles and forgets that the land was given by god not any mans labor. Land is not capital is a unique factor of production and in granting land titles to the few you have violated those natural rights

boys we're fighting a war on all sides now. Whats the plan?

>>137492616
no you fuck off

borders are bad for trade

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>>137492804
evolve

>>137492612
I think we would welcome everyone as long as you value freedom.

>>137488509
We're going to have a problem when your Indian buddies gang rape someone.

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>>137492972
the whole world is capitalist, no reason to limit capital with borders you commie

If you wish to know the differences between the libertarian schools:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V3RlJdIXVY&ab_channel=TheAcademicAgent

Ignore the tone, the presenter is obviously against Rothbard austrian thinking but he does a good job summing everything up.

>>137490459
We're not globalists.

>>137493215
Ancaps are

>>137492972
>hans hoppe
>the same shill that ran away when questioned how borders would be enforced without taxation

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>>137491776
Checked, buy cryptos and stop participating in the debt economy.

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>>137492715
God gave us families and the mentality to work to make our children's lives better than our own. To take away that incentive, to steal away a man's work that should rightfully be handed down to his children in favor of redistributing it to strangers is unnatural and goes against the way God designed things.

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>>137492441
Whites are the primary defenders of civilization, liberty and property. We must never go extinct if the human race wants to take the next step in our evolution.

>>137493215
yes we are, the nation state is useless

delegate control to contracts in WTO

capital doesn't give a shit, let it go

>>137493351
Idiotic storm fags would patrol borders free of charge

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>>137493114
>>137493351

>>137493215
I agree. Did something I said lead you to think otherwise?

>>137493428
who gives a shit

asians and indians are usually more industrious and smarter than whites

who are these "defenders" sounds like spooks

Wtf you guys hate pol now? Every yellow plack or snek flag I see is condemning NatSoc. I understand muf freedom. But werent you guys freinds two days ago?

>>137493816
i was just pretending, but since charlotsville I sense the tide is turned so I dont need to pretend anymore

>>137493611
I don't give a shit about "civilized"

as long as the courts work then shut the fuck up spookman

>>137493351
imbecilic twat, hoppe is a favourite among anarcho capitalists. The fact that you think theres only one guy here supports him means you are a noob in ancap and probably on /pol/
Second, there is no national border dumb fuck. Everything becomes a border enforced by the owners of the property.

>>137493816
>U S E F U L I D I O T S

>>137493816
We just have a lot of the same enemies.

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>>137493376
I see no reason to steal man made property and find that notion abhorrent im simply advocating that all taxation should be based on the value of land and nothing else. No taxes on capital gains, no taxes on income, no taxes on property improvements. Tax land not man and fuck every sort of unearned rentier income that robs man of the bounty good put beneath him

>>137493973
Ok. Yellow balcks now hate NatSoc.
...
And say you snek? NatSoc is hated now?

>>137486592
Can I still shoot communists or do they have to shoot me first?

>>137493816
Fascism is an authoritarian, statist, collectivist ideology. We were never friends. Visit any of their threads and we were always there, torpedoing their stupid economics and their mentally ill Fuhrer.

>>137493816
/pol/ used to be a place that classical liberals, libertarians and political cynics regularly BTFO storm weenies and commies

>>137493611
lol what a raving old man.
" physically removed "

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>>137494186
I downloaded Progress and Poverty this morning. What am I in for, geo-anon?

>>137494311
By virtue of their beliefs, communists are in constant violation of the NAP and can therefore be shot at any time in self-defense.

>>137494311
as long as he doesn't do anything illegal, no, you can make mad dosh on commie merch dude

WIN WIN

>>137494311
Commies still get to subvert your culture I think in yellow black land.

>>137494311
Always act in self-defense. It makes you the victim and victimhood plays big in the ideological arena right now.

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>>137494311
The existance of a group which want your downfall and hope to see your end could be seen as a violation of the NAP

>>137493816
anti authoritarians like libs and ancaps would never actually be friends with them- at the time, the left was just yelling at nazis and white nationalists and libertarians all at the same time so the unanimous defense makes it look like they're all pals.

they're not though. they're incompatible.

>>137493816

Youre new arent you? /pol/ was originally a right libertarian board. There was always shit flining though between the libertarians and stormfront.

we need to invade this nazi thread and force them to realize how retarded they are

>>>/gif/11099721

>>137494402
Fascism is more libertarian friendly. Take Pinochet for example. National socialism with its massive nanny state is not.

can't wait for a Hoppean-computer to be uplinked to the workers in my corporation and see if they get any commie thoughts or criticize the concept of property

i'll just throw them out of the window

>>137494621
You can be incompatible and still freinds.
Divided we all fall.

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>>137486592
Not enough of these, sadly, it's all nu/pol/ nowadays.

>>137494716
Except Pinochet wasn't fascism, retard. Just because there's an autocrat doesn't make it national socialism.

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>>137494496
i can give you a basic gestalt if you will; 3 or 4 posts

>Georgeism reconciles common land rights with private tenure, free markets and modern capitalism.

>Those who got the upper hand by securing land tenures would support public services, so wages and commerce and capital formation could go untaxed.

>To pay the taxes, landowners would have to use the land by hiring workers (or selling to owner-operators and owner-residents). This would raise demand for labor; labor, through consumption, would raise demand for final products.

>To pay the workers, landowners would have to produce and sell goods, hereby raising supply and precluding inflation. Needed capital would come to their aid by virtue of its being untaxed. Thus, George would cut the Gordian knot of modern dilemma-bound economics by raising demand, raising supply, raising incentives, improving equity, freeing up the market, supporting government, fostering capital formation, and paying public debts, all in one simple stroke.

>George's proposal enables us to lower taxes on labor without raising taxes on capital. Indeed, it lets us lower taxes on both labor and capital at once, and without reducing public revenues.

>>137494930
> Georgist tax policy reconciles equity and efficiency. Taxing land is progressive because the ownership of land is so highly concentrated among the most wealthy,'8 and because the tax may not be shifted. It is efficient because it is neutral among rival land-use options: the tax is fixed, regardless of land use. This is one favourable point on which many modern economists actually agree, although they keep struggling against it
> Georgist tax policy contains urban sprawl, and its heavy associated costs, without overriding market decisions or consumer preferences, simply by making the market work better. land values are the product of demand for location; they are marked by continuity in space. That shows quite simply that people demand compact settlement and centrality. A well-oiled land market will give it to them.

> Georgist tax policy creates jobs without inflation, and without deficits. "Fiscal stimulus," in the shallow modern usage, is a euphemism for running deficits, often with funny money. George's proposed land tax might be called, rather, "true fiscal stimulus". It stimulates demand for labor by promoting employment; it precludes inflation as the labor produces goods to match the new demand. It precludes deficits because it raises revenue. That is its peculiar reconciliatory genius: it stimulates private work and investment in the very process of raising revenue. It is the only tax of any serious revenue potential that does not bear down on and suppress production and exchange. As I have noted, George's fiscal policy takes two problems and composes them into one solution.

There are things I like about NatSoc and things I Like about Free Market. Is their a mixed ideology. NatCap or aomething c4ingy like that?

>>137494891
wow sexy girl, is her services for sale mayhaps?

gibe me de pussy

>>137495021
> George's land tax lets a polity attract people and capital en masse, without diluting its resource base. This is by virtue of synergy, the ultimate rationale for Chamber-of-Commerce boosterism. Urban economists like William Alonso have illustrated the power of such synergy by showing that bigger cities have more land value per head than smaller ones. (Land value is the resource base of a city.) Urbanists like Jane Jacobs and Holly Whyte have written on the intimate details of how this works on the streets. Julian Simon (The Ultimate Resource) philosophizes on the power of creative thought generated when people associate freely and closely in large numbers. Henry George made the same points in 1879

>Georgist policies encourage the conservation of ecology and environment while also making jobs, by abating sprawl. It is a matter of focusing human activity on the good lands, thus meeting demands there and relieving the pressure to invade lands that are now wild and marginal for human needs. Sprawl in the urban environment is the kind most publicized, but there is analogous sprawl in agriculture, forestry, mining, recreation and other land uses and industries.
>Georgist policies strengthen public revenues while in the same process promoting economy in government. Anti-governmentalists often identify any tax policy with public extravagance. Georgist tax policy, on the contrary, saves public funds in many ways. By facilitating the creation of jobs it lowers welfare costs, unemployment compensation, doles, aid to families with dependent children and all that. It lowers jail and police costs, and all the enormous private expenditures, precautions, and deprivations now taken to guard against theft and other crime. Idle hands are not just wasted, they steal and destroy

this was all taken from Mason Gaffeny and can be found here if you want to read more http://www.masongaffney.org/publications/K1Neo-classical_Stratagem.CV.pdf

>>137495150
the state is a crime against the free market

>>137495150
Socialism and free markets do not mix. As soon as you implement a single socialist policy, the market is no longer free.

>>137495150
That's literally just conservatism

>>137494926
Yeah I guess that's true, it was more a military junta.

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>>137487509
Anarcho-Cuckunist's are nothing but a plethora of useful idiots vying to create a fascist state. All collectivists get the helicopter.

>>137495368
nigga, can my corporation fly the choppers?

>>137495153
I think it's a character from a cartoon, not sure. I got the .gif from another user here on 4chan.

>>137495486
My corporation will build the copters

>>137495553
but I will license them

>>137492525
I'm on a trip in the USA and don't really have Internet access or time to fix it. I'll be back in here in three weeks or so and update / hand it over then. Sorry guys.

>>137495220
>>137495261
I believe in social welfare and government hand ups
I believe Healthcare is a basic right
I believe in property
I believe in contracts
I believe democracy is degenerate and is now a tool of destruction

What am I. I thought I was alt right. But thats spencers crew

>>137495555
>Any end game libertarian must realize that race alongside nations must be dismantled.

Nope. It is expected that some people will keep their race and their culture / nation.

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>>137495555
This, personally I would suggest taking as many genetic samples of every diverse population. Than you could use this in the future to let parents design their children.

>>137495840
You're a modern liberal Democrat.

Healthcare is literally not a basic right and there's no philosophical basis for such a stupid and inane belief.

>>137495840
let the corporations run everything, your employer will be your state and healthcare

there you go

>>137495931
its a spook from the times of Kings and Queens dumbo

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>>137495840
Obviously you're nat soc.

http://i.4cdn.org/gif/1502668921028.webm

>>137495991
I live in sk. Have had single payer health care all my life. Wouldn't want it any other way.

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New article on Lewrockwell talking about Google and how it's not really a "private" company.

GOOGLE: Conceived, Funded and Directed By The CIA
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/08/no_author/conceived-funded-directed-cia/

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We need more AnCap/Snek memes. There's simply not enough.

>>137496214
Ok. Thanks. I am a NatSoc and that seems to be a problem to pol now

>>137496261
Incredibly immoral and literally theft/slavery. Hopefully someday you'll learn the error in that belief.

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>>137496371

>>137496261
How do you feel about the state subsidizing the unhealthy lifestyle choices of its citizens?

>>137496402
Well it isn't. There's simply a back lash because of the mentally ill person driving their car into a crowd of people.

I've personally been emboldened because it's a situation that has helped us see who is truly with us- and who isn't. At least to some degree.

>>137496473
Yes. Taxes equal theft slavery. Doesnt change the fact that their needs to be an anti-up so their is a bit in the pot for when everyone gets a shitty hand.

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>>137496264
Is that why there are some many useful idiots and communists working there? Does that mean they've seen all of the weird porn I look at!!??

>>137495840
The state gives out welfare and healthcare, while private property and contracts are permitted? Democracy is obsolete?

Sounds like a form of technocracy. I have a friend like you, he's a Platonian.

>>137496896
Thats a tough one, but its like worrying about people allowed to insure a car with shitty tires. It happens but in large people generally avoid risk.

>>137497101
I liked the sound of technocracy in my younger years, but I don't see it happening. My only political concern also tend to be centered around America, which is why I push for Libertarianism.

>>137497101
Yes. People voting in puppets to speak for them is destroying what our grandparwnts built.

>>137496159
My man, I'm not here to tell you what is or is not a spook, I'm here to tell you hipity hoppity, I'll keep my race on my property.

>>137497571

http://i.4cdn.org/gif/1502668994935.webm

>>137497571
Any form of voting should be strictly public referendums voting on specific changes to governance.

>>137497795
Do I get more viruses if I click it.

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ARE WE BEING ATTACKED?

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>>137497795

>>137497955
That is 4 chans own video linking system
but here is a more trustworthy type of link

>>>/gif/11099757

>>137498233
It always puts the videos on max fucking volume

IN

Could a snek nation and a yellow black nation and a Natsoc nation be allies?

Instead of "Unite the Right", we need to Unite the Libertarians.

Chicago fags, Hayek Cucks, and Rothbard idealists should honestly fighting to uncuck the Libertarian party.

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>>137499411

>>137499043
Yeah. But Libertarian don't like to entangle themselves in foreign alliance. Commerce is the way.

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>>137499489

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>>137499664

>>137487913
Like what?

>>137486592
I'm pretty new Libertarian

What books besides those in the OP would be good?

Bump for liberty

And congrats to everyone for $4,300 bitcoin today! Many of us are rich!


Lets put this newfound wealth in to build this movement.

I seriously believe that we can be the third bloc of people to prevail after the Antifa and National Socialist types fight in the cities. We will hold the countryside, let them burn out, then hold the productive and free lands of our nations in order to restore liberty.

>>137497361
Cigarette use, alcohol use, unhealthy eating, and lack of exercise are rare?

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>>137499210

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Anybody know of our guy Anthony de Jasay?

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>>137486592
Bump, best flag for the eternal anglo imo

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>>137486592

It's always a good time to learn Austrian Economics.

>>137500623
Exactly what I mean. What is this bullshit?

>>137500335
If you're looking for more non-Rothbard sources (you should expand your horizon, don't just stuck with one school like OP here), here are a few recommendations:

Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell: https://www.amazon.com/Basic-Economics-Thomas-Sowell/dp/0465060730/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1502762152&sr=1-1&keywords=basic+economics

Economics in one lesson by Henry Hazlitt: https://www.amazon.com/Economics-One-Lesson-50th-Anniversary/dp/0930073193/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1502762180&sr=1-1&keywords=economics+in+one+lesson

Road to Serfdom by Hayek: https://www.amazon.com/Road-Serfdom-Documents-Definitive-Collected-ebook/dp/B0048EJXCK/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1502762220&sr=1-1&keywords=road+to+serfdom

If you want some old school: Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith: https://www.amazon.com/Wealth-Nations-Adam-Smith-ebook/dp/B000FC1CVE/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1502762240&sr=1-3&keywords=adam+smith+wealth+of+nations

>>137500335
Start with economics in one lesson ny Henry Hazlitt. It's free on the Mises Institute. Then either Machinery of Freedom or something by Rothbard.

someone posted a really good no step on snek anime girl recently the last few days. Its new and not on google seaches. Anyone have it?

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>>137501774

>>137501837
that doesn't make me quite as hard as the one I remember

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>>137499943
Got some more

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>>137502250

>>137501837
>Minarchy doesn't throb his knob
Get out of here commie.

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http://libertyhangout.org/2017/08/libertarian-chairman-refers-to-mises-institute-as-preferred-choice-of-actual-nazis/

LP is controlled opposition.

>>137501774
See>>137494891
This? I swear I've seen a colored version as well.

>>137496261
Stockholm syndrome

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>le reddit snake memes XD

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>>137502250
seems related

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>>137499943
snek

>>137502579
Because Hitler's Germany was a paradise? Literally retard. Nazshits are useful idiots for us, all collectivists and leftists get the helicopter.

>>137502564
no, it was a really nice anime girl, with a dont step on snek shirt on, I think she was armed with a gun and had big boobs

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>>137500335
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1Fj5tzuYBE
Comfy.

>>137503034
>useful idiots

Since when? Natsocs have been ruining pol and the right wing movements for years now.

>>137502579
>the reason monopolies aren't taking place outside of irrelevant and obscure markets is because of government intervention.

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>>137503034
>implying you can stop a united fascist force as individualists
You aren't superman. It's doubtful you guys could even hold back a Commie invasion without resorting to the "private army" meme, which no one on here would be able to afford.
>>137503244
>ruining /pol/
Fuck off, /pol/ and /new/ were always NatSoc, Fascist, and Monarchist.
pic related

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>>137503034
> Nazshits are useful idiots for us
> he doesn't know it's the other way around

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>>137503244
Yeah but them and the commies will end up weakening each other. Heck, even if we lose we'll still win eventually, our victory is inevitable not because the people want it, but because our system is the only sustainable one, and all other systems must at least make concessions to our in order to survive.

>>137489950
false imprisonment is a crime, you know? just use your chubby leg stumps and walk away.

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>>137503161
I think I have something similiar

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>>137503781

I think one of the bigger problems that Libertarians are facing currently would have to the the LP. I don't know if you saw what they posted on Twitter about NK being a "paradise" for weed smokers, but their message is complete garbage. So currently, people who are active libertarians have to fight against their own party's twisted message as well as all the other opposition coming from the left and right

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>>137503874

>>137503563
And how exactly does your post NOT prove my point, stormfag?

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>>137503930

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>>137503993

>>137502536
Thank God the LP is there to guide us to success, electoral victories and true liberty.

Anyone got the general image with Hoppe, Bastiat, Rothbard, Ayn Rand, Hayek & Mises as pepes?

>>137500335
I know Chicago school gets shit on a lot here, but Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell is awesome. He explains a lot of economic scenarios and socialist stupidity using supply and demand as well as profit and loss signals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQiBD-crrvA&t=5s

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>>137503958
We are the ones with the energy. Look at the Unite the right rally.
More energy than a Trump rally. Literally a state of emergency was called.

Stop resisting.

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>>137504261

>>137504261
That rally was a big joking mess.

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>>137503710
A group will always be stronger than the individual. Literally any government group that pops up, even bad ones, will be stronger than you.
>>137503958
Because that was on /new/. Libertarians and AnCaps used to be a joke on /new/ and /pol/, the only reason there are so many now is that moderates from reddit couldn't swallow the whole redpill, and became only slightly less moderate because of it. There used to be daily holohoax threads, redpill threads, and lots of other shit you probably don't know about. I bet you don't even know what JIDF stands for without looking it up.
pic related is what old /pol/ thought of you

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>tfw my friend is a nationalist cuckservative
>tell him that i don't care if gays marry, or if a business lets trannies into a certain restroom, and that making kids do the pledge of allegiance is bullshit
>he automatically thinks im a leftist and cuts contact with me and refuses to hear me out

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>>137503563
>implying you can stop a united fascist force as individualists
We did in WW2.

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>>137504460
>>137504363
Stop
Resisting

The left will kill you

We will bully you.

It's inevitable.

>>137502536
Fuck the Libertarian Party, we should infiltrate both the Democratic and Republican parties as sleeper agents.

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>>137504577
>the government didn't pay, equip, and transport all of those soldiers
And now we are run by Jews.

>>137504534
>There used to be daily holohoax threads, redpill threads, and lots of other shit you probably don't know about.

They stopped because you're fucking wrong.

>>137504534
>My circle of stormfront rejects have been mocking you guys for decades

Leave your mother's basement for once and just go shitpost on voat.co, you insecure faggot.

>>137504534
If I had any of those fat nazi memes I'd post one, because it's true. In the same way only degenerates promote marxism, only degenerates promote nazism. Only people who have nothing of their own want extremist, authoritarian bullshit.

>>137504534
>Because that was on /new/. Libertarians and AnCaps used to be a joke on /new/ and /pol/, the only reason there are so many now is that moderates from reddit couldn't swallow the whole redpill, and became only slightly less moderate because of it. There used to be daily holohoax threads, redpill threads, and lots of other shit you probably don't know about. I bet you don't even know what JIDF stands for without looking it up.
Revisionist history in your favor. Shit meme.

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>>137504880
>the equipment, payment, and transportation didn't come from privately owned industries
Hitler was the best thing to ever happen to the Jews. He's the reason the eastern half of Europe was oppressed by communism for decades, and he's the reason the Jews got the state of Israel.

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>>137505209
Wew lad. So to achieve our goals we should actually just instead do like the libertarians- nothing

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>>137505113
>>137505124
>>137505157
>>137505166
Not an argument.
>>137505209
You realize he lost, right? He wanted to prevent what we have now.

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>>137493428
>We must never go extinct if the human race wants to take the next step in our evolution.


meanwhile in China... http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/828735/China-clone-humans-super-soldier-breed-dog-genetic-engineer

>>137504534
Do you remember when Libertarians & Ancaps btfo the enitre board in 2012? Majority opinion shifted to free market capitalism and individualism, not long after most of the Minarchists were converted to Voluntaryist. We shared the board with the joke threads pretty comfortably, that was the golden age of this place imo. Bitcoin was new, hope was high, youtube was growing to displace the MSM, we were sharing literature & memes, doing healthy debates between systems it was good.

>>137505498
Libertarians created America, the nation that destroyed Germany twice. And if they keep acting like massive faggots, it's going to happen again.

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>>137505536
>Stormfag quotes a libertarian

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>>137505536
>You realize he lost, right?
Yes, he was a fucking idiot.

>>137505498
No, we should get the government out of our way so we can do something.

>>137504880
Take away the FCC, the Civil Rights Act, and the Federal Reserve. What else do the Jews have?

>>137504534
>nazi lying about everything
i feel like i've read this same post 500 times in the last couple of days.

>>137486592
anyone tired of fucking statists? can we give nazi larpers free helicopter rides too?

>>137505536
It isn't an argument, you're right. Your political and economic ideology is a joke.

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>>137505894
Yes please, any idea of an alliance between us needs to be dropped, the Nazis will sperg out like they always do and drag us down with them if we tolerate them.

>>137505894
I always say all collectivists get the helicopter

>>137505669
Listen, son. Just march with us and I promise we'll give you your libertarianism when we're done centralizing power.

>>137505536
You didn't have an argument. You gave a historical account with no evidence. We say you're full of shit.

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>>137505632
>Libertarians & Ancaps btfo the enitre board in 2012?
I only remember Ron Paul getting BTFO. If YOU remember, there weren't even Libertarian generals until last year because there were literally two Libertarians at any given time at /pol/ before then.
>>137505683
Right wing economics is good, you just have to pair it with a strong government that doesn't let shit like usury thrive.
>>137505711
>>137505840
>>137505950
Still using fallacies.
>>137505832
The media, the rest of the banks, social media, Google, YouTube, etc.

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>>137506215
>I promise we'll give you your libertarianism when we're done centralizing power
Nope, not falling for it. We're not stupid.

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>>137486592

is the libright accepting of hard working minorities?

>>137487913
>take x
>give x to government to manage
>require meaningful metrics of government's handling of x to be posted at reasonable intervals
>require justification of change in how x is managed
>require system to dismiss the people managing x at any time
>let autists manage those that manage x
Autism is the perfect regulatory institution.

>>137491203
Buy a rifle and McShoot them, you fucking idiot. If the sovereign owner of the property doesn't allow you to freely exchange firearms and ammunition, then you're in a fascist state not a libertarian society.

>>137506276
>>137503563
>no evidence
kek

>>137506097
>letting leftists control and divide us
I thought you guys were better than that

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>>137506340
>Right wing economics is good
>usury is bad
You have no fucking idea what you're talking about, you raging faggot.

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>>137506473
>implying Nazis aren't leftist

>>137503710
Amen, brother

>>137506340
>The media, the rest of the banks, social media, Google, YouTube, etc.
Media=controlled by the FCC
Banks=controlled by the Federal Reserve, we want competing currencies or gold standard, no fractional reserve banking.
Social media, Youtube, Google=all benefit from explict state interevention
https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/how-the-cia-made-google-e836451a959e

>>137500008
Preventing the bank runs that caused the 1929 crash, which is what the Fed was set up to do but it didn't.

Which is why I tend to agree with Austrians because I don't trust consolidated power. COULD it be used for good? Sure. Will it? No because humans are flawed, greedy, marred creatures.

>>137506473
We're just here to make sure these libertarians know they're antifa cucks, and the white ones among them will filter themselves out over to us when it gets serious.

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>>137506480
Let me break it down for you since you want to pretend to be retarded
>private property
good
>successful business
good
>high quality of life
good
>unreasonable banks and megacorps
bad
>jobs leaving country
bad

>>137506620
Is abolishing unearned income and banning usury and immigration leftist?

>>137506401
YES, I feel very strongly about having the best POC in our society, rather than trailer trash.

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>>137505894
>>137506119
natsocs are our useful idiots

>>137506895
>Implying we can have successful business without loans and debt
Like I said, retarded, Probably an under aged little faggot, who has never actually studied economics.

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>>137506908
Yes.

>>137507067
See my earlier post

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>>137486592
Finally! Someone who is interested in what I have to say!
So, what do you want to talk about, OP?

>>137506448
Where does it say this is a Natsoc, fascist, monarch board?

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>>137506720
>ctrl + f
>FCC
>0 results
>>137507120
I didn't say there couldn't be any loans, just not unreasonable rates.
>>137507067
>helicopter meme
pic related, you won't do shit, just like Libertarians haven't done shit for 200 years.

>>137506340
> there weren't even Libertarian generals until last year
Didn't need generals in those days, it was just healthy debate threads & discussion threads on bitcoin, roads, innovation, climate change/nuclear etc. You honestly don't remember do you?

>>137506787
Actually, I decided to marry a white woman after I get a stable life and only look in places where conservative women hang out. I don't care if others decide to be degenerates or race-mixers; it's their lives and they can waste them by being subhuman if the wish.
On that note, while I disagree with your politics, you're more than welcome to explain them and I'll give you the respect you deserve.
>>137506908
>banning usury
Yes, but it's understandable.
>banning immigration
Not in the slightest, but it's still better to grant visas to people that know the language and have useful skills.

>>137507522
Not an argument.

>>137507522
>The market shouldn't dictate interest rates, I SHOULD
Like I said, underaged fag. By the way, that's what leftist support as well, because they don't understand anything. It's been the cause of every mess so far.

>>137486592
Okay you have convinced me after this shit with antifa and the alt right where do i start anons i want to feel the spirit of ron paul flow through me.

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>>137507522
Once businesses realize it'll be a net gain in the long term, it'll happen.

>>137486592
Whats your guys answer to Capitalism and free market economies being so easily taken control and manipulated by (((them))) ? thats one of the only off putting things about Libertarianism for me.

>>137507522
> just not unreasonable rates.
> price controls totally work goyim
There are reasons Venezuelans are starving mate. Artificially controlling interest rates is how we've gotten into the mess we are now.

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>>137507848
OP has some good stuff reads

>>137507848
help me anons before i become natsoc and start driving cars again

>>137507427
>the second it becomes stormfront again
>google stormfront
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormfront_(website)
>Stormfront is a white nationalist,[3] white supremacist[4] and neo-Nazi[5] Internet forum that was the Web's first major racial hate site.[6]
That means you are literally refugees.
>>137507583
>Didn't need generals in those days
You mean they couldn't stay up because no one would post in them?
>>137507758
Yes it is, you say clearly that the FCC is in control of some of this shit, yet it is mentioned NOWHERE that they are.
>>137507896
No it won't, you guys didn't do shit in America for 100's of years, even when guns and free speech is attacked.

>>137507848
You know those guys in Wellington, the ones that micromanage your life? Get rid of them and replace them with guys that get rid of those regulations.

>>137508211
Do you not know what the FCC is?

>went to the nazi general to try and reason with them on why invoking hitler and nazis is bad for the idea of ethnic nationalism
>'if we tell normies they're retarded and everything they believe in are lies we'll surely get them to our side'

i missed you, /lbg/

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>>137508091
i will become the snek

>>137508078
Not many ancap seem to give a fuck about the JQ. I know I don't.

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>>137508211
You want to know one of the easiest ways of BTFO'ing NatSoc's? Telling them that they have no way of implementing their ideology and an individual nation, let alone having this happen without getting ass fucked by other nations.

>>137508211
>the second it becomes stormfront again
>google stormfront
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormfront_(website)
>Stormfront is a white nationalist,[3] white supremacist[4] and neo-Nazi[5] Internet forum that was the Web's first major racial hate site.[6]
>That means you are literally refugees.
Again I ask, where on this board and website does it say that the official political ideology of /pol/ is Natsoc, Fascist, and Monarchy?

>>137486745
Chicago school is just Keynesian economics with a few minor differences.

Austrian is always better than Keynesian, whatever the brand.

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>>137508083
There is more than one reason why Venezuelans are starving, my good friend.
They have done so much wrong.
>>137508315
Yes. It still doesn't say anything about them in the article you posted.

>>137508350
Nazis are a fucking black hole of public relation. It died in the concentration camps and they're never getting it back.

>>137508078
The problem with jews I guess is the tribalism? I don't really see a problem aside from that, they're pretty smart.

>>137507621
I let Hitler do the speaking.
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>>137508078
(((They))) are not a monolithic entity and there are plenty of Jewish helicopters pilots and free marketeers.

The first step to admitting that THE Jews don't control literally everything is simply admitting that Jews (plural) control literally everything, and that signifies that they're damn well a more adaptable and capable race than whites currently are. They control everything because they're high-intelligence and help each other on an individual basis, not because of a grand Elders of Zion conspiracy.

They are literally the society and ethnic solidarity white supremacists wish they could have.

>>137508873
This

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>>137508078
You take away their means of control, which are almost all unnecessary government institutions. See
>>137505832
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>>137508634
The article was related to Google and how it was made by the CIA.

>>137508521
Not really. There is a decent chance now. We aren't defeatists. Even if the U.S falls, the remaining Nazis will just not racemix and move out of country to make a NatSoc country hopefully.
>>137508594
Are you just pretending to be retarded or what? /pol/, Politically Incorrect, was made because /new/, News, were Nazis, and m00t wanted to distance himself from them by calling the board "Politically Incorrect". Notice that it is not called "Politically Correct", or "Politics", but "Politically Incorrect".
You would know this if you had been on here for any significant amount of time before 2015.

Just for fun. This gave me a laugh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYFyUf5SpAU

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>>137509322
Threads dying, I'm not going to read the whole thing. I did my duty.

>>137509406
You didn't answer the question.

>>137508873
>They are literally the society and ethnic solidarity white supremacists wish they could have.

yes

Guys, no matter which side that we might sympathise with, the fascists or the communists, antifa or white nationalists, we have to group those two groups together as what they are in essance, the COLLECTIVISTS.

If either side wins, we loose. Communists will starve us with shit economics and kill normal people. The fascists will be repressive as hell as well, and douchebags like spencer have Socialist economics anyways.

COLLECTIVISM vs. LIBERTY!

>>137509456
It sucked right away.

>>137508873
Right but you cant dismiss their tribalism and sense of their people first, that means if you arent one of them then they seek to exploit you, that the problem with them, they are a threat to my people and letting a group like that exist, a group that wants all the power for itself will deprive and kill off other groups fighting for that, and im on the side of my people

>>137509612
Exactly this, but don't get too tribal in those there's Us and there's Them belief. It's part of what makes someone a cuckunist in the first place. Freedom is about doing you with others.

>>137508784
It's a reasonable speech, but the truth is with a small, weak government that only handles the enforcement of agreements, claims, and law (and possibly currency, infrastructure, and defense), and nothing else, you have a system held entirely accountable to the people and is too incompatible with communist bullshit. Simply put, the more power a government has in a society, the more corruption and communism can and eventually will exist in that society.

>>137509612
>materialism is all that matters
>t.karl marx

>>137508634
> There is more than one reason why Venezuelans are starving, my good friend.
Yeah that's why I used a plural for reasons. Price controls & artificially induced inflation among them.

> Libertarians don't care about morals
bullshit libertarianism is founded on a moral framework that allows your subjective morals to fill in within that framework
> Libertarians don't care about community
bullshit, freedom fosters community, it fosters charity, cooperation & voluntary peaceful associations, it's the most community driven ideology around, just because we see the use in trading with people in a global community doesn't mean community is cast aside.

Also, what kind of random meme would say something like Libertarians hide behind concepts they refused to define clearly, like as if the NAP & property rights haven't been clearly defined a million times over, as has natural law, argumentation ethics, praxeology, free markets, voluntaryism etc.

> Libertarians are jews
funny that the jews financed the Nazi's & the commies and did everything in their power to betray the american right and demonize classical liberalism, hmm.

>>137509573
Yes I did. You can pretend to not know logic, but you can't hide the fact that to all the lurkers, you are wrong.