Why are communists so fucking retarded?

they're communists

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>>137444138

Being retarded comes before being a communist. You know, doing the same mistake over and over and learning nothing? Also, the entire ideology is tailored for kids who have never really interacted with serious people.

>>137444138
Because these fucks aren't communists. They are faggots and statists that blindly believe the bolshevik's lies.

>>137444356
nice to see that you volunteered as an example for my question

>>137445341
Please explain. Your argument so far is that communists are retarded because "look a pic of a faggot in a beret".

>>137446273
Communists are retarded because communism is retarded.

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>>137446273
No that's not my argument. There shouldn't be an argument necessary to call a system that has failed EVERY SINGLE TIME, resulting in millions of people dying and mass poverty, retarded, you fucking commie retard.

Damn, I can always count on /pol/ to provide quality threads and insightful criticisms!

wtf I hate gommunism now!

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>>137446273

>>137444138
I will try to answer your question seriously without turning into a tl;dr effortpost. Here goes.

These "people" are usually completely reliant on others. They spend their whole lives depending on others not only financially, but intellectually. They need to be told what to think and what to believe. They hate things like individualism and success because those are things that are both scary and out of reach for them. You will never see a commie that has its life together, except for the small handful of elite at the top of an actual communist regime. Surely these "people" imagine that they would be at the top if their country became communist, but they delude themselves. As drones completely dependent on government for money and media for thought, they would be absolutely worthless as leaders.

>>137447160
If communism is so good then why doesn't it work? Checkmate.

>>137444138
Communists are so retarded they all think they'll be in the party. They're thinking they "in on it" and so thinking they can steal from the poor to install themselves as an elite.

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>>137447818

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>>137447881

>>137447274
>White woman on the picture

yeah sure, let's forget that fatherless homes are mostly nigger homes.

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>>137447359
You have to be a moron or a teenager to think those sentences are in any way clever. The fact you think this is some massive intellectual blow to redistributionism speaks volumes about your general ignorance.

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>>137447995
>redistributionism

>>137447274
"Its because of single mothers that dindus turn to crime, not because of their race!"

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>>137448196
But of course the famines elsewhere in the world during the 20th century had NOTHING to do with Capitalism?

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>>137448286

the politician they're shilling for always promises their group will get the lion's share of the new regime's stolen money

>>137448206
Ben garrison?

Shut up, dad.

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>>137444356
triggered leftycuck fag detected

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gee idk

94% of commies are literally faggots and spcial retards with no friends. Their version if communism exists only in their heads and on forums. Funny the only places that allow them to espouse their cancer are capitalist countries. A true communist is proud of heritage.

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>>137444138
anyone who subscribes to a statist, or extremist view is a retard who feels like they can fill in the cracks of their boring personality with someone else's ideas.

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>>137449182
cry more wuss

>>137449150
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNRt-8GEi6c

>>137448352
>peasants crops seized

>>137447727
Epic meme

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>>137446855
That wasn't real communism.

>>137446855
Now you are just blaming authoritarian statist regimes for failing and blaming that on the concept of communism.

>>137446855
ohhh my god I used to work with that person. straight up the least functional human being I've ever met. i shudder to think what they've been up to for the last 7 years

>>137448352
don't bother, they're a retard who thinks of you take a million dollars away from a billionaire, he won't be able to feed himself.

>>137448196
>muh 6 million

>>137449867
>advocating theft via the brute force of a massive totalitarian state
Cool ideology.

>>137447955
> yeah sure, let's forget that fatherless homes are mostly nigger homes.

How is it a nigger home if the only nigger left.

>>137449502
Right...because real "ideal" communism is when power is given back to the people after the state acquires all means of production. The problem is that this has never been realized. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

>>137450142
Actually personal property is just fine under communism.
The means of production however should be owned by everyone, not just a select few.

>>137450753
You just advocated stealing 1,000,000 dollars cash from the rich.

>>137450753
>should be owned by everyone
>should
Also, why?

>>137447931
>40-80 year old Russian: Living in the USSR wasn't perfect but everyone has a house and a job and nobody starved during peacetime when I was around. We were poor but it wasn't like 1984 or Cold War propaganda.
>23 year old American who thinks he knows everything from being out of college and worshiping David Horowitz, Ben Shapiro, Robert Conquest, and the Mises Institute: ACKSHUALLY

>>137450650
>after the state
>after the state

>communism
>state

Nice strawman. The people seize the means of production, the people benefit from the means of production. No state necessary. The state is what props up and protects parasitical oligarchs and those jews you hate so much.

>>137447995
> redistributionism
> gimme the fucking shit you worked for so I can feed leeches and parasites because my waifu marx <3

>>137450900
Different poster my friend

>>137450994
>nobody starved
Bahahahaha. Off to the gulags with you, Ivan.

>>137444138
Because they have little to no grasp on historic or economic reality.

>>137450142
i'm not a communist but if you've ever worked a real job you'd know that they guy at the top gets away with a lot of shit that could be considered more or less theft. predatory banking could be considered theft as it is done without informed consent. i'm not saying the wealthy are inheriently evil and don't deserve what they have, but you seem to be implying that shitting all over a bunch of poor people because they're forced to work within the system to survive is a good thing.
i also don't understand where you got this totalitarian state thing from seeing as i am an anarchist, or why you would defend the obscenely wealthy seeing as you'll never be one of them.

>>137450965
>should be owned by a tiny few

Why?

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>>137451150
I see. Regardless. Why should the means of production be owned by the Mob? To increase efficiency or "fairness"?

>>137448206
> Implying we are all authoritarians in here

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>>137451129
>extracting rent
>creaming off profit
>receiving dividents
>inheriting wealth

>worked for

My sides.

>>137450142
>taxing the rich turns you into Stalin
Pure ideology

>>137449676
Fucking clockwork lel
>>137449502

>>137451290
Who is going to build your workplace, your tools, organize the jobs and manage the work you dumbass? BTW what you're proposing in the meme is called joint-ownership you retard, there is nothing wrong with it, what you can't do is steal the workplace somebody else built because you want to use it, that's called being a thief and thieves are shot.

>>137451187
The last famine was in the mid 1940s and was largely due to war damage and poor harvests.

>>137451792
its not stealing if everybody owns it, retard

>>137444138
Everyone likes the thought of free stuff for everyone. Anyone who thinks about it hard enough realises free stuff for everyone is difficult, the rest of them become communists.

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>>137444138
Mercury poisoning.

>>137451309
As a syndicalist, I wouldn't use the term mob. Industries would be organised by confederations formed of worker representitives and industry specific specialists, as opposed to the current system of managers trying to extract the most from the powerless workers below them in order to deliver shareholders the highest dividends.

>>137451525
> building a house and renting it out
> earning part of the money for organizing, managing and providing a group of people with the materials for working
> inheriting the shit your parents/family/friends worked for

Fixed

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>>137451958

>>137451027
>The state is what props up and protects parasitical oligarchs and those jews you hate so much.

true enough. the state creates monopolistic conditions so politically connected businesses can make unnaturally high profits.

go directly after the state. diseconomies of scale will naturally break up companies that are unnaturally large. their size is perpetuated by regulations that disproportionately hurt smaller businesses but are easily absorbed by already established businesses.

your vision of a post-state world is probably more egalitarian than mine. things aren't ever going to be equal and shouldn't be, but the state is exacerbating inequality rather than solving it.

>>137451792
Workers can operate their own workplaces.

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>>137444138

This more your liking, faggot?

>>137451290
>we dont need a boss
top fucking kek, this meme was made by someone who has never done 10 minutes of blue collar work in their life.

You think a bunch of retarded grunts with iphones are going to stay motivated to finish projects and meet deadlines on their own?

You think they are even going to realize everything they are supposed to do on their own? Fuck no, they will forget a ton of details and do a pisspoor job.

I get it, nobody likes having a boss. But yet you will always have one. If its not a private organization it will be the Government pointing rifles at you (like every communist country in history)

>>137451958
If everybody owns it, nobody takes care of it. For example, in China, the facades of apartment buildings go to shit because collectively nobody wants to chip in and make the thing look presentable. Humans and Communism aren't meant for each other.

>>137452096
>Protecting a country's borders and maintaining society

By your logic it is perfectly moral that governments extract taxation from their citizens, BTFOing your own ideology. Well done.

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>>137452249
>Fuck no, they will forget a ton of details and do a pisspoor job.
This is the pinnacle of communism

Why are right wing so fucking retarded?

>>137444138
They don't respect any form of private property, OP.

That includes their own selves.

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>>137444138
>faces of leftypol
Ruh roh wouldn't want to bump into that guy in a dark alley.

>>137452197
t. never held a job in his life

you vastly over-estimate the ability of the average "worker"
The government will run your life, and be your boss.

>>137452249
>le stoopid lazy poor people meme

>>137444138
Slave Morality

>>137451958
except that everyone does not own it.
you merely assert that everyone owns it.
which is what property norms are.
assertions
the difference is that private property norms lead to prosperity for all.
collective property norms lead to prosperity for none

>>137452295
the government in China owns and manages those, not the people.

>>137451254
Because if I built something it's mine, the capacity to produce stuff has nothing to do with the legitimacy of me owning it, retard.

And if I wanna pay somebody to use my shit so they can produce shit that I can sell there is nothing wrong with it.

Nobody is stopping you from creating a joint-ownership business for all the employees working there, the fact that you don't see it is because large scale production operations require some form of hierarchy of authority to function, just like the military, it wouldn't work if all soldiers had an equal say regardless of their rank etc, nobody would agree on anything and at the end someone or somebodies end up forming some form of hierarchy regardless.

If you don't agree with the practices of a business you can leave whenever you want assuming you live in a free country.

>>137452197
no they can't
they need someone to tell them what to do

>>137452295
>If everybody owns it, nobody takes care of it.
those do not correlate
>Humans and Communism aren't meant for each other.

>>137452648
>reddit switcharoo
kek
it worked "ok" for the soviets

>>137447160
>Being sarcastic
You're an anarchist why dont you hate an inherently authoritarian statist system

>>137452738
>communism was never tried

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9eXi3RL8q4

>>137452738
>the government in China owns and manages those
Exactly. Which is why every building is falling apart. Your neighborhood is only nice because the people around it chip in to make it nice, not because the government bureau in the capital is worried about you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9eXi3RL8q4

>>137452569
> implying you're gonna get rich by washing dishes at mcdonalds all your life

>>137452565
collective ownership doesn't preclude management, it just means they don't get paid more.
also the government managing anything beyond economics or public interests is bad. for example cars are not a public interest. public transport is.

>>137453008
that was terrible formatting sorry

>>137452350
the funny thing is commies love regulations on blue collar jobs and then think that the workers (the people always trying to get around regulation out of laziness) are capable of running the show.
Workers hate regulation because it adds a bunch of annoying steps to every job. Anyone who has ever actually worked would know that. (its also why they overwhelmingly vote republican)

Especially in construction where half the crew are 80iq Mexicans who can't even speak English. Do you REALLY believe they are going to meet every regulation, deadline or even basic expectation of quality? NOPE.

>>137453070
Not an argument.

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>>137453008
>>If everybody owns it, nobody takes care of it.
>those do not correlate
>>Humans and Communism aren't meant for each other.
>communism was never tried
>nothing is real communism

>>137453288
Not a single brain cell.

>>137451958
It's stealing when you take what somebody made without their permission and give it away.

You can't null the ownership of something just because it has a productive value.

>>137444138
the only people interested in equity are precisely the kinds of people who want to bring everyone down to their level. It attracts those who otherwise have no chance in the dominance hierarchies of man. This is why they are always ugly fat/skinny beta males who are too dumb to even form a coherent philosophy, so they cling to their Che teeshirts and red stars.

>>137453118
Management is a boss though.
>dont get paid more to be more important, and have more responsibility
Oh im sure that would lead to some great managers with a lot of motivation to care about their job.

Commies live in a state of delusion. They reject the reality of human nature and prefer "muh theories" "muh dreams!" "this sounds good!"

>>137453101
>>Humans and Communism aren't meant for each other.
the last line of the whole post was for you
>If everybody owns it, nobody takes care of it.
just because everyone owns something that doesnt mean it isnt taken care of, see soviet army

>>137453408
>you can own anything without something with force backing it up

>>137451254
You're the one with the burden of proof. You convince me why we should tear the wealth away from those who already, legitimately
own it.
>>137452085
So Feudalism. Fine. I'm for it; as long as you bend the knee to the King.

>>137453070
Oh shit we posted the same video seconds apart

>>137444138
A smart commie ( or well not a commie at all ) will end up killed by the state.

>>137453008
>it worked "ok" for the soviets
this nigga trolling

>>137453118
If an owner of a business takes 1$ for himself for every 10$ a worker he hires produces, and the owner hires 50 people, he is getting paid a shit ton more than you because he is collectively taking a small portion of the worker's production as part of the work agreement, believe it or not, you do take the vast majority of what you produce in your workplace, the employer has the right of taking a bit because he organized the whole operation, he built the workplace and provides you with materials. You're just jealous of other people's successes.

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>>137453640
>more responsibilities
have you even worked anywhere? i've worked at bars and most of the managers i've had have been fat lazy pieces of shit who push everything off onto the shift lead or assistant manager. you act like everything works one way and is the same.

>>137454171
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uN6i_-ELLw

>>137453752
> soviet
but I thought that the soviet union wasn't "reeeeal communism"?

You just switch around to what works out for you.

>>137454412
>not an arguement
never said anything of the sort

>>137444138
How could they not be, they’re fucking communists

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>>137444356
You may not like this but this is what peak performance in a communist society looks like.

>>137455420
come on now thats just dishonest

>>137444138
Is that Christine Chandler?

>>137453752
>see soviet army
I saw communism first hand. I grew up in a (not a real^tm) dilapidated communist country. If you want to witness entropy, establish communism. The natural human reaction to things they do not own in less than a symbolic sense is at best apathy.

>>137454331
You are still going to have shitty bosses whether they are hired by the owner or appointed by "worker representatives" or "industry specialists".

>>137453564
That's pretty smart for a fucking leaf. Why haven't you got the fuck out of there yet?

>>137455724
yeah and my dad works for nintendo

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Cum at me alt right! Cum if you dare!

>>137444138
Disney Movies. Too many fucking fairy tales and fantasy stories.

>>137444138
When punching nazis is the right thing to do because they are so evil but loving the brutal ideology that killed ten times as many people.

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>be lefty
>want to make government huge
>scared when opposing president and officials are elected because of federal power
>still shill for big government

>>137455420
>posting shota

>>137448286
LMFAO

>>137448352
5 million dead due to famine in 1922 - 5 years into the communist regime.

GREAT SUCCESS!!!

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>>137456857
>be retard
>wanna make government small
>scared when government starts making changes to make the peoples lives better
>still shills for small government

>>137457354
>posts obnoxious anime girl
>has opinion

i'll still never understand how people like that shit. it's so bizarrely weird

>>137454298
Literally

The commies got btfo in this thread by the AnCaps. Once you go deeper than their somewhat clever sounding phrases and memes, you realize how moronic they are. Generally they no longer respond after they get BTFO's. Also we have multiple failures of communism as empirical proof.

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>>137457354
Please show me a single instance in history where a big government didn't eventually fuck its citizens over.

>>137447447

Bingo. It's literal slave morality.

so is christianity

Additionally communism is a pseudoscience. Marx took hegels dialectic (history progresses through the formation of theses and their antitheses in a cyclic fashion until revelation) and subbed in advanced communism for Armageddon...

The issue with dialectics is they suppose the result and due to the structure of the theory any state of affairs can be counted as a verifying instance. Dialectical materialism cannot be proven wrong. It has no empirical content. It is like astrology and psychoanalysis.

Popper was knighted for showing this... too bad philosophy has been taken by the reds and his politics are no longer taught (even his phil of science is barely touched).

>>137458057
>ancaps
>btfoing anyone
kek

>>137458480
show me a single instance in all of history where a small government never turned in to a large government

>>137458480
oh and nazi germany

>>137454600
No, but 70 million chinks are

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>>137447931
This
>me: my grandparents and family were gulag and shot in a ditch for being kulaks.
>young fellow American: yea but that wasn't real communism. What about my student loans?

>>137458705
>ancaps
>btfoing anyone
>kek
good thing gommies aren't people.

>>137444138
Why are they all unattractive, fat, skinny or skinny fat, usually wearing glasses and in need of a bath? I need to know.

>>137459404
>jew:oh vey dont forget the 6 bajillion
>young american capitalist: yes master...

>>137448178

Fuck you, I lived in sandy hook elementary. Those kids died and I lost my leg when they demolished the building shortly after.

Stop being a conspiracy faggot and believe me, I was there.

>this is you faggot

Commies first, then hypocrites.

>>137460247
How did you loose your leg? that's pretty absent minded of you, brah...maybe it's behind the couch with the empty Cheetos bags.

It is so laughable if it weren't so violent. Fact.

>>137451027

>no state

What's to stop me from murdering everyone who comes into my factory floor?

Who is going to stop my evil capitalist ways?

>threadly reminder communism doesn't even work in theory, much less practically.

>>137459404
well, dont be a kulak, is that so hard.

>>137460247
You lived in the school?

>>137459041
The only correct answer.

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>>137460207
don't worry I'm sure you and your "comrades" will rid the mindless Americans soon

>>137456184
I'm not that guy but this is literally the best country in the world lol

>>137454331

It must be really tough to manage a room that sells a substance so addictive that an addict can die from stopping cold turkey.
Clearly bar manager is a great metric to judge this by.

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>>137444138
Most definitely

>>137451212
>im an anarchist
>defends communism

Do what now?

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>>137444356
Would you rather him post pics of bread lines?

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why is the alt-right retarded?

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marxism is the r9k of politics

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>>137463566
>us embargo on food
>socialism means bread lines xD

>>137451525
Why do you people seem to think that everyone who's well to do is the heir to a fortune?

>>137463566
Bottom left hand corner, nice ass, she should use it to get to the front of the bread line.

>>137464624
US embargo on food....world jewry declaring economic war on Germany

>>137444138
most are inconsiderate selfish cunts who are walking examples of why communism never works.
living life as a meme.

>>137464624
>us embargo on food
stop pretending to be retarded.
America still buying some amount of oil from them is the only think propping Venezuela up.

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>>137444356
The Left Can't Meme

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>>137464624
Aren't you the people advocating for closed economy?
>those capitalist pigs comrade! We have to trade with them!

>>137452197
Then why don't they just start their own businesses instead working under a boss?

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>>137444138
they're losers, born and raised by fucktards, genetically weak and pathetic

>>137444356
Oh snap, a paint reaction image. How will we ever recover?

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>>137444138
They are the unemployable, most of them in their late teens and twenties and still living with their parents. In extreme cases you see them older, forties and up and usually living off of a trust or inheritance and often on a fraudulent disability/Social Security claim. You see them all over the place in college towns, taking one of the forms above or slumming around a Liberal Arts classroom. They are bitter and hateful people, and the only reason they aren't burned for electricity is in part due to the laws of our great nation, the very greatness which commie scum despise and wish to destroy.
They are worse than niggers because many are White and therefore should know better. Behind them stands the Kike, in all its filth and deceit.

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>>137447359
>edgy teenager understanding of politics

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>>137444356

>>137444356
>fat guy in a mao uniform
So, Mao, then?

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