Helo Cumrads. Thiz generol is for discuss of Marxinism, the idolorgy of revalutiory socalsm and cummushitsm.
Cummunism iz duh death stage of humanty followin the ebil nahtzee!!!!111!1!!1111!! stage.
Wut exakly is cum according to Marksist-Lenonsts:
>we suk
>we iz dum
>we wuz soviet union n sheet
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we shud size da means of pro duction
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Yo dawg, ya'll niggas read that Torah sheeit?
We run /pol/
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TRU GOMMUNISM HASN'T BEEN TRIED!!1!!!!!!1!!1!!!1!!!
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HURR MURRRHHG BUT DATS NOT DA REAL COMMUNISM!
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HAIL COMRADE
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wat da fug a deze capitoolist pigs doin here?
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What is wrong with the LTV.
Non arguments:
>If I dig a hole in my backyard and then fill it in I used labor but made no value! Commies BTFO!
Marx clarified (unlike adam smith) that only socially nessary labor (labor used to produce a commodity with use value) creates value. This is also the case if you spend 1000 years making a bed.
>Nature can create value as well. If an apple falls from a tree then value is created without labor
Marx also noted nature could create value.
>if labor determines price why is coca cola cheaper than bottled water?
Labor doesn't determine price. It determines value (not exchange value or use value) and correlates with the equilibrium price. Supply and demand determine price.
Machines cannot create value. If I make a machine that makes diamonds out of thin air then the value of a diamond falls below that of bricks now that they can be aquired with no work what so ever. Price might not fall because you can still manipulate supply and demand but value certainly does.
Some definitions.
Use value = How useful an object is.
Exchange value = Market value of a commidity. Different from use value. You can sell a beanie baby for 200$ but it is almost completely useless.
Value = the amount of congealed labor withing a commodity.
Some evidence of the LTV
http://users.wfu.edu/cottrell/eea97.pdf
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