/lrg/ LIBERTARIAN RIGHT GENERAL

>>137320304
free minds and free markets. how can you be aganst open borders?

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>>137321288
https://mises.org/library/nations-consent-decomposing-nation-state-0
A de facto open borders policy represents a centralisation of state power (it implies they have the right to set the border policy). In fact, an anarcho-capitalist society comprised of a patchwork of private property would be closed by default.

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>>137321288
On the basis of property rights.

In Ancapistan, there is no public property, and the issue of borders is resolved as property rights.

In the real world, we have public property. Public property belongs only to those who pay taxes to occupy and/or use it. Going to another country illegally and occupying/using that country's public property without paying for them constitutes theft and abuse of another's property.

TL;DR Open borders permit violation of the NAP.

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HAIL /LRG/

https://youtu.be/JVkkLDAm8I4

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>>137323619
Made some more of these

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I love it, I love the elitism of it.

I just finished economics in one lesson and it was a fun and interesring ridd
Any other books that focus on economic aspect of libertarianism?

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>>137326825
Eminently readable. It's not a book of economic theory but rather an history of economic thought. There's no need to read it from cover to cover the first time around. You can pick up various section and read them independently of the others if you so wish and there will be little problems.

>>137326825
Man, Economy & State (+Power and Market) I would assume

>>137328697
That's pretty heavy. Since he's already read a book of (popular) theory, I wouldn't recommend a second one right away.

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>>137326825
Tom Woods can explain almost all of Austrian Economic theory in 25 minutes in a way almost anyone could understand. I felt like an idiot for reading a textbook when this guy could cover it so well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIVNXxgPz3A

Discord link is broken

What's your response to the falling rate of profit? I've heard commies talk about this alot, but the only sources for information on it are communist websites, which obviously are biased as heck.

>>137333329
What's the context of this argument? The rate of profit is bound to fall in any industry which is open for competition, and is not an evil in and of itself. However, there are two elements which prevents the rate of profit from going to zero.

First, as Mises emphasized, only in the "evenly rotating economy" would the rate of profit go to zero. The evenly rotating economy is one in which

>people's value scale, their time preference level, the technology available to actors, the amount of resources, is fixed. The economy then tends to be "evenly rotating", i.e., the same activities tend to be repeated in the same pattern over and over again

- Man, economy and state, Chapter 5 section 2

This means that, in order for the rate of profit to fall to zero, people's value scale would have to remain constant, which is simply never the case in practice. Rather, people's value scale continually shift so that the rate of profit in various sector fluctuates and thus market participant have to shift resources from the less profitable uses to the more profitable ones.

The second element, also mentioned in the ERE construct, is that of technology. It is here bizarre that the marxists will insist that technological innovation, i.e. changes in the material structure of production, should on the one hand propel history but on the other hand should not counteract the alleged falling rate of profit. If new technology are brought into the world, then it will also means new opportunity for market participants to offer goods and services that had never been offered on the market before, and with them to bring a fresh round of resource re-allocations in the system brought about by a rising rate of profit.

So I don't see why the profit rate should tend, globally, toward zero, though it may for a while in certain well established industries.

>>137330937
/mvnKbdX

can someone tell me how a libertarian can like Pinochet? Libertarianism and fascism are polar opposites

>>137338003
Pinochet wasn't a fascist

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You guys suck. Your ideology involves people abusing capital in order to make money while exploiting others of their fruits of labour.

>>137338144
There is no such thing as 'theft of surplus labour value' because value exists independent from labour.

>>137338206
doesn't mean labour isn't void of value and that workers can be exploited of that value

>>137337763
Still doesn't work... I'll just try another time.

>>137338396
But it does. You'll find in fact that 'surplus labour' amounts simply as interest as a reflection of time-preference amongst capitalist and worker.

>>137338471
What's your discord tag? I'll send it to you

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>>137338144
Exploitation is a spook. Goods and capital has no inherent value, thus I cannot exploit anyone.

>>137338396
How is the worker exploited?

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>when you try to convince the peasant that socialism is good