Sargon is a cuck what a surprise

I don't care about ecelebs but the horseshoe theory is 100% real and /pol/ and SJWs are way closer to one another than either want to admit

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>>137296359
Not really

>>137296658
yes you are

>>137296359

Identity politics is pure cancer, and /pol/'s mental gymnastics recently are textbook SJW deluded bullshit.

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>>137296090

It would be a real shame if that video got a shitton of dislikes to signal to the public that centrist cuckery is not acceptable

>>137296090
IS THIS NEWS FOR YOU

Watching these faggots get banned from social media is hilarious to me. Time to start reporting his videos as well. It worked for his Twitter account. Only took 3 days, too.

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>>137296090
>anglo
>not a cuck

see:
>>137296815

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>>137296090
What a surprise

>>137296359
It would only ever appear that way to someone incredibly ignorant of our side.

>>137296090
He has already lost over 100 subscribers.

https://livecounts.net/channel/Sargon of Akkad

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>>137296359
Yeah except one is right and the other wrong, but in a brainlets world everything is unified and there's no true, wrong, good or bad anymore. Congratulations, you are a sheep that cannot think for itself.

>>137296090
He's a lefty and he's open about it

>>137296359
Yeah and you neoliberals are so much better. You faggots have started more wars in the past two decades than other radical ideologies combined.

>>137296359
horseshoe theory is bullshit

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>>137296090

>>137296090
>Claims to be a centrist
>Defended white genocide.
Yeah, no.

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>>137296359
I used to be a "horseshoe" supporter, but you really can't equate leftist degeneracy with far-right traditional values. In some neo-Kantian sense you can draw a relationship, but only A Posteriori. The effects are clearly dramatically different.

t. subgenius

>>137296859
Wouldn't it?

>>137296359
>muh anti-sjw is sjw

>>137296815
Identity politics may be cancer, but they work. Look the madness that the Left has achieved in the last 10 years.

>>137297546
>CURRENT YEAR

Come on, Nige.

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>>137296859
centrism is the ultimate commodification of ideology: literally neo-liberalist consumer-class garbage. May as well flip a coin on social issues.

>hey, what if they're both wrong?
way to go, genius. how's that working in practice for ya?

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>>137296090
>implying he's wrong

You identitarian collectivist cuckolds can all get in the helicopter.

>>137296090
This is why people like Sargon is controlled opposition. They are meant to steer way disillusioned people from the far right by appealing to them on a lot of issues and then doing things like this at certain critical points. Same with Lauren Southern etc. , basically if your not full 14 you're the enemy.

>>137296815
please explain to me why all other groups than whites have political power as monolithic blocs? Why is it again that blacks all vote democrat?

>>137299160
Good goy. White people shouldn't work together and help other White people in mutually beneficial relationships. Everyone should be on their own!!! Identity politics is always bad! (Except when the chosen people does it of course...)

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Quadron of Cuckkad and Neil degrasse Tyson can both trace their ancestry back to a common nigger.

>>137299147
>15 year old girls back when this was made used to dress like that and play with dolls

My, how times have changed.

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>>137299160
>nazis and commies are equally bad
Hitler was a fucking scrub compared to Stalin. You gotta pump those numbers man

>>137296090
The Alt-Lite is falling apart

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>>137298746
It isn;'t that the horseshoe is a real thing, as much as it is, two identitarian collectivist ideologies are a lot closer than they pretend to be.

For instance, the usual lot doesn't even account for individualist ideologies.
>>137299407
Exactly.
Fuck the jews, I don't give a damn about them either.
People should work for themselves ,and be proud of their own actions. Not the actions of some 'race'.

>>137296815
Okay, listen here: all politics are identity politics. That is because identity is inextricable from politics. You can't separate them. Politics doesn't exist in a vacuum.

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>>137299488
kek'd and check'd

yeah it's pretty disgraceful, isn't it?

Sargon can't hold his liquor.

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>>137299531
I don't think they're the same. They're still shit, though.
You don't point to two puddles of sewage and say "This one is worse, so we'll stand in the other".
You just don't stand in the fucking sewage.

>>137299573
>People should work for themselves ,and be proud of their own actions. Not the actions of some 'race'.
Good luck selling that idea to nonwhites. This is why lolbertarianism is never taken seriously. You're no different than the open borders libtard faggots

>>137296359
>All these butthurt replies
Really struck a nerve, haven't you?

>>137299573
Best goy. White people should keep working by themselves while other racial groups are organised and actively working together thus outcompeting all the unorganised White people.

Look Mr. Lolbertarian, what you're talking about only works in a 100% homogenous society.

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>>137296090
What other radical centrists exist in youtube?

>>137297767
Wow, you really showed him with that strawman! WTF, I'm on your side now!

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>>137299573
Again, in some neo-Kantian sense that is true however the effects are radically different. Hardline leftists are necessarily absolute collectivists, aside from radical leftist anarchists like Kropotkin. Hardline right-wingers are in general individualists, even when organised. The outcome of radical leftism and radical right-wing authoritarianism are disparate, despite using similar mechanisms to achieve their goals ie. force.

>>137296359
They are similar in a lot of ways, but also different in one important way: the Right has actual facts, data, and reason. The Right can debate. They can discuss and defend their ideas.

The Left cannot do any of this. They have ideology but now actual grounding for it.

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>>137297546
>anglo posting

But UKIP has always been this cucked.

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>>137299886
I am hardly a NatSoc (I'm also an ethnic kike), but as a Hoppean libertarian it is necessary to use force in order to physically remove communists from our societies in order to have the level of high-trust, individualist libertarianism we all crave.

>>137296359
This

There are the collectivists (nazis, commies, feminists) and then there are the individualists (libertarians, real liberals, ancaps)

>>137299893
I'd prefer closed boarders, because we have no obligation to help faggots outside our nation.
Keep 'em out.

As for "selling that idea to nonwhites", it's caught on decently. Unfortunately, here, nonwhites just get massive amounts of government money and schooling telling them "all your problems are whitey's fault".

Until we stop the system from brainwashing the youth, we can't really fix the problems at hand for non-whites.
>>137300070
Most of our advancements came from the intent of greed, mate.
Other racial groups can do whatever the fuck they want. I don't care. They can whine about racism, but I'll still be shooting the cucks what try to rob me, regardless of what skincolor they have.

>>137300415
>individualist
>collecting together under a label

>>137300308
>implyng
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG6_cdlPXTE

>>137300303
Keep telling yourself that, bud. That's exactly what the left says too. Very easy to contextualize the facts in whichever narrative you're interested in pushing on an anonymous imageboard.

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>>137300415
hard to have a libertarian society when the communists are in power, don't you agree?
What do you say we do about them? Vote them out?

>>137300556
Meaning the absence of collectivist thought, like how black isn't really a colour but the absence of one

>>137300192
I'd disagree.
The far-right types I've been seeing have all been hardline collectivists.
It's just that they change the collective they refer.

Then again, maybe that's because "right" and "left" are poorly defined, these days. It was National Socialism, after all. Do they count as right-wing still?
>>137300406
Sure. Doesn't mean you have to embrace fascism, though.
Just stick all the collectivists in the helicopter.

>>137296090
>we are going to beat these tightly coupled organized groups with a shared identity and vision by being loosely associated individuals acting independently
HAHAHAHA AMERICANS GONNA GET FUCKKKKKKED

>>137296090
Everyone can see you for what you are now you fucking fascist scumbag terrorist. You ready for your FREE helicopter ride? LMAO

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>>137296815
You cant keep repeating the same mantra and expect nobody to notice what you're doing.
Here we go again!

Did they attack the car?
If yes then they brought it upon themselves end of story.
You don't attack people then cry when you get hurt you spoiled worthless bottom feeder.

>>137296090
Horse shoe theory, shouldn't be a theory. It should be a law because it's a 100% accurate

Just watched it. I agree with him. We have the moral high ground and we shouldn't ruin that. But, the white genocide thing starts to look realer and realer and realer...

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>>137300814
Your statement is anecdotal, do we agree that groups that self-label do not always do so out of honesty? The KKK is a staunch leftist group, my friend. Don't let the swastikas fool you.

Would you be willing to show a few example of Right-wing collectivism (other than nazi germany) in recent political history? Libertarianism has become a non-stop weed and guns joke.

>>137296090
>I'm an individualist, just like all the other rational skeptics!!!
>say no to le alt-right and raycism now pls pls pls stop calling me a racist

Can anyone explain to me what a 'classical liberal' even is? What the fuck is that?

>>137299032
If your goal is madness then I guess it works

>>137301252
Basically a sexual pervert.

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>Doesn't want to be called Alt-Right

Start shopping him into Alt-Right events, and shop his name on the Unite the Right poster.

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>>137301163
Now you're speaking my language, boyo
Just firin' up my choppah

>>137301176
The most recent "alt right" whatnot is a fairly good case, I'd say.
Though, I'm willing to guess you'd call them 'left wing' too.

If so, though, I think we've got issues, as everyone seems to believe these to represent the right on the whole. Frankly, I've not seen any far-right individualists, bar anarchists or perhaps hard-core constitutionalist types.

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>>137296090
Hes an actual cuckold, in the traditional sense.

White nationalists should act with open hostility towards Marxists, anti-whites, and their sympathizers
America's demographic and cultural problems aren't going to go away on their own, especially while the left has total control over the media and schools

people need to die

>>137296359
I seem to recall SJWs being around longer than the alt-reich.
You don't counter one group of extremists with moderates, you need another extremist group.
They're the same in that both are willingly violent, but one is reacting to the other.


How far would moderates be willing to fall to avoid engaging in violence with SJW policies?

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I like Sargon, he's the only reason us ethnic kastaniesies have a chance of memeing. And also look at the pic :)

>>137299169
Not true. I watched Gavin McInnes for a year before I ever heard of Richard Spencer.

Then I had to start hiding my power level.

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>>137301507
What exactly happened at this event that you find questionable? The false flag car crash hoax, obvious shenanigans with the "crashed chopper", and MSM shills coming out in full force to denounce the so-called "alt-right"?

You need to stop drinking the kool aid, my friend.

>>137300594
By all means link me to some in depth explanations of Left wing talking points that breaks down the facts they derive from and defends them from debunking attempts

>>137301252
Think Adam Smith.

>>137296090

I love how badly horse shoe theory triggers both nazis and commies since its 100% correct and you're both the exact same type of power fantasy obsessed retards who want retreads of horrifically failed authoritarian regimes that got tens of millions of their own people killed who's only discernible difference is the boogeyman they used to justify all this is called The Jew or The Rich and even there they are often literally the same individuals being pointed to

personally I think you should team-up together and maybe invite islam to form the ultimate shit ideology that kills billions of people, would be good for the environment

>>137300611
1. Take away women's rights and tread them like children
2. Remove Welfare
3. Kill EVERY violent "protesters"
4. Make military service a requirement to vote for the president

>>137301806
Where is the bait though?

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>>137301550
Everything is beginning to make sense.

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Why are nu-/pol/ posters such whiny bitches who follow their MSM masters like sheep to the slaughter? SMMFH boys
Will the slides let up tomorrow? Only Kek knows.

>>137301830
What do you mean by "questionable"?
There was a lot "questionable", but I do doubt the entirety of the event was a false flag.
That's a bit extreme, I'd wager. I really doubt everyone who was there is a false-flagging CIA agent.
Though I do guarantee a fair chunk of them are agents of one form or another.

>>137301252
Adam smith, basically. I'm a classical liberal in that sense, though I prefer to call it "classical libertarian"

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>>137302225
Sounds pretty fashy, I like it.
You're not a Heinlein fan, are you?

>>137301804
My guess is that you're the exception not the rule. Many more people are alt-light ish.

>>137296090
>you are giving them everything they need against you
I'm so tired of this argument, those pricks will pick up and find or even imagine and create a reason.

>>137296090

lol sarcuck of blackdad still countersignalling even after the (((ADL))) has cucked him

>>137299695
where was this image from again?

>>137296815
you can't get away from Identity politics because your Identity is who you are and you will always have people that will be for or against your Identity

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>>137296090

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>>137302309
You haven't been following /car hoax general/, eh?

>>137283460

The "whole event" was not a false flag, but the crash was certainly an intelligence operation. It is my opinion that that fat whale lefty was not intended to die.

Personally, I don't trust any "alt-right" media personalities. It is pretty clear that they are in it for their own personal gain. Look into some of the odd coincidences though, definitely doesn't add up.

>>137296090
He defends them 6 minutes in and maybe other parts of the video too, stop being autists /pol/. His commentaries are somewhat interesting (sometimes), and useful for figuring out what mainstream conservative thought will be like bounded on the left

>>137296815

>Identity politics is cancer
>Jews organising and wanting their own state is not cancer

Why are civic nationalists such hypocrites ?

Carl Benjamin never has been and never will be /ourguy/.

So you hate SJWs and feminists? Great, so does everyone else who's not mentally retarded. What else you got? In Carl's case, not much.

>>137296090

well its true, anti-white hate from the left has pushed ALOT of people right

>>137302158
True. Carlyle and Johnson were both marxists
Hurr durrr

>>137296090
Fuck off, cuck. He's sympathetic to the alt-right because he understands that the regressive left has pushed them to a corner and he understands that.

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>>137302836
they use the same deconstructionist argumentation as leftists, but never applied to their own position. It's pretty much rule #1 for self-induced myopia.

>le enlightened centrist meme

>>137297731
Almost lost over 200 now :O

Based Sargon le centrist man countersignalling BOTH the far left and the far right, how edgy!

>>137302807
I have. Probable CIA OP doesn't mean the whole event was a fucking false flag, you strawmanning cuckold.

I don't give a flying fuck about this car shit. I'm whining about collectivists here. Fuck them. This car shit is irrelevant from that discussion.

>>137296359

Horseshoe theory only alludes to radicalization and proclivity to violence. It doesn't speak directly to the actual principals involved in either side.

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>>137302309
also see these for more lulz

http://cultstate.com/2016/08/26/the-planned-destruction-of-the-alt-right/

https://willyloman.wordpress.com/2017/08/13/charlottesville-attack-brennan-gilmore-and-the-stop-kony-2012-pysop-what/

>>137296359
Pretty much this and its funny when larpers can't seem to understand the difference between meme and reality.q

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>>137303259
You really can't keep a line of argument, can you?
Another zombie marching with the hoards. You call yourself an "individualist" but you make the same criticisms that a leftist would. Funny that you call me a cuck when clearly you are the one parrotting what the MSM wants you to believe.

>>137303399
So you do believe the whole thing was a false flag, and that everyone there was a plant.
Wew. Shouldn't be so surprised, but I asked this shit, and you refused to fucking answer.
Why bait it along so much?
Why not just flat out say it, you faggot?

>>137302836

This. Why is it only a big deal and the whole fucking country goes into a meltdown when whites talk about wanting a homeland and ensuring a future for their children and culture ? Everyone else is allowed to do so. Chinese stick together, blacks stick together, Mexicans stick together, Jews stick together. But it's somehow outrageous when Europeans do it? Fuck off with that shit. Sooner or later cucks like Sargon will have to understand that groups exist.

>>137300303
>The right has actual facts
>LOL THE JEWS MAN

>>137300415
Individualism is the cancer that ruined modern society.

>>137303696
The crash is definitely a false flag, the "nazis" were out of there long before it happened. At first I bought into the whole "he panicked and drove" thing but this entire senario simply has too many untied loose ends. Is that hard for you to follow?

>>137303110
yeah good luck with that

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>>137303933
thanks, HaBibi.

>>137296090
>Quadroon of Cuckad has no identity therefore nobody else must have one
>acknowledges that people are actively trying to eliminate whites and that many whites want to resist that but won't let the whites do what they can to raise awareness
Never trust people from liberal cesspools, they cannot relate to people with real identities and love for their own people and cultures because liberal cities erase that sense.

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>>137303922
incorrect, but I agree that radical marxist individualism à la muh 1488 gender is definitely manifest schizophrenia for sure

>>137303686
My argument here is that I don't like collectivists, and it seems the far-right are collectivists too, given what was SAID at the event, multiple times, by a large number of people overall. It seems to be a general theme at the event.
Unless you believe the event to be a false-flag in its entirety, I fail to see how they are not representative of their respective movements.
Please see posts
>>137298746
>>137299573
>>137300192
>>137300814
>>137301176

And follow the fucking train of context, you homosexual faggot.

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>>137303861
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/your-ethnicity-determines-the-species-of-bacteria-that-live-in-your-mouth-4731531/
>Your Ethnicity Determines the Species of Bacteria that live in your Mouth

https://abc102.wordpress.com/2011/02/17/brain-size-and-correlates-with-iq/


https://alfinnextlevel.wordpress.com/2013/07/27/how-much-of-black-crime-could-the-maoa-variants-account-for/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monoamine_oxidase_A
>The WARRIOR GENE
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1448064/
http://content.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1993074,00.html
https://www.ucdavis.edu/news/biracial-asian-americans-and-mental-health?id=8732
>HEALTH PROBLEMS from RACE MIXING


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16282974
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886912000840
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289613000706
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289615001221
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6872626
http://www.jbhe.com/features/49_college_admissions-test.html

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>>137304347
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15651931
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22713927
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18292342
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1893020/
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289605000917
http://science.sciencemag.org/content/309/5741/1720
https://lesacreduprintemps19.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/factor-analysis-of-population-allele-frequencies-as-a-simple-novel-method-of-detecting-signals-of-recent-polygenic-selection-copy.pdf
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/jul/23/genes-influence-academic-ability-across-all-subjects-latest-study-shows
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11694885
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22963424
>No narrowing in mean Black-White IQ differences--predicted by heritable g.
>various articles/studies that prove race has a genetic basis (as if that weren't obvious)\

https://academic.oup.com/scan/article/5/2-3/203/1664339/Is-there-a-genetic-contribution-to-cultural
>mentality/disposition and race
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0032840
>Africans and diabetes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Domesticated_Red_Fox
>Russian Fox breeding experiment demonstrating how seemingly incidental genes are all linked together, such as genes which dictate appearance (like skin pigment)
For example, look at domestic dogs and cats or any domesticated species

Did anyone watch the fucking video?
It's pretty much a 20+ minute defense of unite the right

>>137303930
Car crash is irrelevant, and I don't give a fuck about it for the sake of this conversation mate.
Why do you keep pushing the car crash bullshit?
Nazis were not the only group out there. In fact, near as I can tell they were a rather small part of it.

>>137304475

No it's not

It's ballfanning

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>>137304345
I am not only paying attention to you in this thread so if I miss a reply don't have a litter of kittens, eh?

Ok, honest question: what do you call the usage of force to remove communists from society? Our enemies will call it fascism so what are you so afraid of?

I get that little dicked faggots come to /pol/ to argue but that shit is pretty annoying. If you can explain to me how you plan to clear society of marxists without the help of right-wing fascists then I am all ears?

>>137304306
Here is the difference between you and me. You want to go back to the good old days of the 80s-90s. I think that line of thought failed, and is the reason why we're in our current situation.

Also reminder that alt-right/alt-left isn't very relevant outside of the US.

>>137304583
Yes it is.
He said that other people forced them into uniting and pushing back against the ruling class that hate white people.
did you even watch the video?

>>137304345
I don't like collectivism either... but that doesn't mean collectivism is wrong.

Something that is very hard to do is to admit at times that things you don't like and think should be wrong... might actually be correct and better.

>>137304475
I did. He did in some sections but in others made sure to say how much he hates both for being collectivists. He points out that there are actual people who propagate hate against whites but refuses to say what should be done about it.

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The only difference other than tactics with /pol/ and sjw scum is that the sjw's always agree with each other. Yeah sure you guys may use different words and blame different groups. I don't try to bash because your weaponised autism is useful.

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>>137296090
He's literally a cuckold.

He's dating a single mother and taking care of her baby.

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>>137304537
so what exactly is your point? the idea that whites have formed a neo-colonial, post-ethnic identity in retaliation to the identity politics thrust on them?
What side are you really on any way?

>>137296090
I can't stand this faggots voice

A lot of Brits are like this; smug condescending and snarky about it

>>137304755
Lol, feminists exclude male feminists and black gays complain about the lack of brown line on the rainbow gay flag parade.

>>137304716

He says white nationalists are retarded and evil and the left has caused them by being anti white

>le based centrist

>>137296090
>>137296359
Horseshoe theory is a fallacy -- an illicit substitution of non-identicals, i.e. two or more things with different properties can't be the same.

>>137304746
If the worst he says when the alt right dies is ''well they kind of pushed them to do it'' that's a defense.
Would he use the same argument with a muslims terrorist?

>>137304824
I thought he had a son that was his?

>>137304967
>when the alt right dies is
When the alt right runs someone over, weird mix up

>>137304347
>>137304430
Human beings have a right to live together in a multi-ethnical society if they wish even if its not strictly advantageous from a biological standpoint.

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>>137300087

>>137304715
I grew up in the 80s and 90s. Unless we are talking a retro-futurist simulacrum on that time then I am not interested. I would like to see my family live in a country which is not dominated by social degeneracy, collectivist economics, and lack of personal responsibility, komrad.

>>137296815
There's a textbook on SJW deluded bullshit? Or did you just try to give yourself some false authority, Mr. 1 post by this ID?

>>137304755
This is how they see us:
>useful

>>137304967
Care to rephrase that? What do you mean "when the Alt-right dies"?

>>137305173
To not have social degeneracy you need a strong government authority to enforce its removal. Otherwise it won't work. They'll just take power back, its a slippery slope. Go back to the 80s-90s, it'll take them a decade and we're straight back to that.

And I grew up in the 80s and 90s too, but you can't get that back. Not without enforcement and changes.

This is really the problem with the alt-right, both those like you and the autistic nazi LARPers.

>>137304755
parts of Islam are tolerable, what is wrong with that? The only thing we ask is that you keep that shit in your own borders.

>>137301550
Almonds activated.

>>137305275
>>137305081

>>137302447
This. They've been calling everyone who voted Trump in the US evil racist white supremacist nazis for months for literally doing nothing other than voting in a "democratic" election. Their buzzwords don't even mean shit anymore. They are throwing around nazi and white supremacist like it means shit to anyone but the left.

>>137304695
I don't think I ever mentioned a missed reply. I'm just saying you should follow the context of the argument at hand. You keep jumping in to stuff that is irrelevant, it seems.

I'd prefer to remove them by legal means. They give plenty of legal means on their own, so it shouldn't be hard.
Though, at this point, I believe to get to a proper system, a secession at minimum is required.

What our enemies call "fascism" is not my concern. My concern is what actual fascists stand for. I see absolutely no reason to align myself with actual fascists, as I've already stated in >>137299886
>You don't point to two puddles of sewage and say "This one is worse, so we'll stand in the other".
What our enemies call us is irrelevant. Just because our enemies call us fascists does not mean aligning with collectivist authoritarian dickbags is a good idea. They're sewage, and they should go with the communists. I sure as hell will not be accepting their help. In the event we actually expunge communists, I'm going to be kicking their faggot asses out too.

>>137296090
why lately theres all this /threads/ about forcing some opinion because its cool or because someone is x or y?
The truth is, those so called "ecelebs" are the only hope of redpilling the younger generation.

>>137305081
Just saw the correction now. I can't say for certain what Sargon would say. I forget what he said in the past about trucks of peace. Did he ever say anything like "The muslims lash out because they aren't welcomed"? I think he's talked about how second gen muslims don't really assimilate and thus lash out.

I can agree he didn't full on slam the Alt-right, but I wouldn't say defend either.

>>137305393
I totally agree, so let's throw the commies out of power and take the restrictions off of personal liberty. Why would anyone want to relive the past? The present is garbage because, as Marshall McLuhan said we go into the future "as one driving using only the rear-view mirror".

Let's meme retro-futurism into reality.

>>137305515
ok, what is your legal means to restore order? I am all ears.

>>137304742
I don't think it is better, or correct, though.
I've yet to see any reason to think so.
Maybe it's due to my own personal values and ideals, I'll grant you, but making decisions based on your ideals and principles is standard practice. That's how we all make our decisions on what is good or bad. That's why I'd be against being a slave, even if I was well fed and comfortable. Because I'd still be a fucking slave, and I don't want that.
I'd rather be miserable by my own hand, than content with no choice in the matter.
>>137304869
My point is that far-right collectivists are no friend of mine. Just the same as far left collectivists.

I am on the "side" of individualism.

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>>137296090
>Can't you see your both the same!!!!
I fucking hate idiots like this so much

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>>137296359

this

>>137305899
>I totally agree, so let's throw the commies out of power and take the restrictions off of personal liberty.
Not how it works. Personal liberties is what results in degeneracy. There needs to be some restrictions. Also you're ranting on and on about muh commies when the USSR and Warsaw Pact were some of the most stable social conservative countries. There were issues with them, it wasn't perfect, which is why I wouldn't recommend a full return to that either.

>>137305905
We agree about individualism, but I am more of an operationalist than you who seem to be more of an idealist.

We do what is necessary, nothing more and nothing less.

>>137297767

>what is the diffrence between your and his opinion?
>we are right and they are wrong - sjw
>we are right and they are wrong - alt-right

wew, how about something more spesific?
i suggest>>137305980

>>137305647
No he never says they lash out because they aren't welcomed, he mostly says they're incapable of assimilating unless they reform their religion.
Defend maybe not but he gave really good reasons as to why Unite the Right came to existance with the Joe Biden and Cenk and whoever clips that cheer on white people being replaced.
I think any normie watching that probably thinks: ''well fuck I guess they did push the right into a corner''.
I'm not a white nationalist but white nationalists have to at least appreciate someone like Sargon handing out mini ''''redpills'''' to normies, he's a big channel and pretty much made excuses for the entire event (I'm not against the event per se)
Instead of taking the highground and talking down to the alt right he gave his audience some arguments as to why they exist

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>>137304915
lol I guess so why not use that against them? It's at king time bomb and I was just waiting for someone to bring it up. The some blacks hate gays, some gays hate trannies/trannys (not sure), the feminists hate men, muslims hate them all. A bundle of sticks my friends. Let's sepporate them.

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Kek

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>>137306121
Personal liberty and traditional values go hand in hand. I will allow zero restriction of my natural rights. The NAP is what enables our high trust society to exist.

>>137305899
So, we abandoning the original argument, here?
I don't really mind, but I do want a clarification thereof. The original argument was around the post >>137300192
in which you state
>"Hardline right-wingers are in general individualists, even when organised."

It depends on the situation, in any case.
If we're talking the current US lot, I'd think it best to secede and start over, in all honesty. Right now, there's too much federal control over too much stuff. And unfortunately, most those feds are corrupt scumbags. Same deal for a lot of state powers, to be fair. Still, I'm not convinced you can fix things without going from the ground up.
To put in to an analogy, right now, the foundations've rotted. The barn's going to collapse, and repairing the side panels, plugging the roof, that ain't going to really fix much. We have to build a new one.

>>137300308
Granted it still got better under Farage.

>>137296359
Yeah because antifa the far left who want's anarchism is the exact same as the neo nazis who want fascism on the far right......

>>137296359
This.

>>137306399
You do realise the personal rights, the ancap economy you preach for resulted in what we have today? Just look at post-communist Eastern Europe. Shitholes ran by dictators backed by Brussels as long as they keep answering to Merkel. All ancap economies, with total freedom and bought out by local mafia groups.

>>137296090
Communists and fascists are both collectivists and authoritarians. You're both shit. Go away.

>>137306140
I'd say it's an incredibly shit idea to give power to a bunch of authoritarian identity-obsessed collectivists, even if you believe they're "helping" you get rid of another group of identity-obsessed authoritarian collectivists.
They're just going to use that power on you, mate. The very moment you fall out of line and start preaching individualist shit, you'll be labeled a dissenter and booted out.

How do you plan on kicking the fascists out, after the communists are gone?

>>137305905
>I don't think it is better, or correct, though.

Individuals collectivizing is what creates societies. It creates culture. It is why aren't wiping our asses with leaves anymore.

Individuals only have value as PART of that collective.

I think there can be some balance, but ultimately the individual must be willing to sacrifice for the greater whole.

A nation of solitary cavemen is no nation as it has no true solidarity.

>>137306510
You're the one who brought "exact same" to the conversation. The poster you're replying to says you're very SIMILAR. Poor strawman.

>>137296728
Good argument

>>137296090

horseshoe theory is bullshit because you can't fit every political movement on a single axis it's fucking retarded

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>>137306422
You haven't addressed any of my core response points and continue to address me. This conversation feels awfully one-sided there, gent.

Democratic politics require collectivism to form political blocs. I am anti-democracy, personally. Do we agree that under democracy majority vote generally rules?

>>137301550
When you raise another man's child, you win.

>>137306332
I can agree with that. Like I said earlier, he did show how there is anti-white rhetoric being put out. I still don't see him putting out any solutions for this though. But yes, any normie that sees this will (if they are somewhat rational) know they right were not in the wrong entirely like the MSM says.

>>137306697
honestly, why kick out fascists anyway? If they are good employees and take care of their families they can stay.

>>137300998
Did the person he murdered attack the car? Really Nigger?

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>>137302087
>>137302394
Except Adam Smith would not have envisioned multiracial fractured societies with totally opposing interests. These faggots conflate small limited government and Laissez Faire economic policies with total libertine degeneracy.

>>137296090
Of course he's going to shit on an Alt-Right rally. HE'S A FUCKING LIBERAL! The only reason he isn't a full-on Neolib is because he hates Antifa just as much.

>white genocide
>white genocide
>white genocide
>drives a car into a crowd
You guys are just so fucking persuasive, it really does seem like it would be a shame to get rid of whites.

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>>137307121
actually that person was hit by the white droptop that the Dodge crashed into
>the more you know

>>137300814
>Doesn't mean you have to embrace fascism, though.
>Just stick all the collectivists in the helicopter.
literally fascism is the means of removing commies from helicopters, though. stop conflating it with the Corporatist State which was Gentile's view of things economically.

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>>137307161
Adam Smith would have no fucking problem with multiracial societies; he knew about English and Roman empire. What Adam Smith didn't expect was white people becoming autistic pandas that literally can't have babies if you pay them, and then sperge out nazi style because the niggers ask for gibs.

>>137305088
The faggot who you replied to ran the fuck away
So much for being interested in facts

>>137306825
And you've been dodging around with irrelevant bullshit, mate.
This conversation feels awfully one sided to me, too. Now we've gone to whether or not collectivism is inevitable or unavoidable, from where we started where you had stated >>137300192
>"Hardline right-wingers are in general individualists, even when organised. "
Which now you seem to be going completely against.

I prefer local powers, when it comes to democracy.
I don't think there's necessarily anything wrong with the way our system works, except that it did not count for cities and how big they'd become.

Also, I fundamentally disagree that parties are required for anything.
People of like minds can simply gather together. We've seen this happen plenty of times. Hell, the Berkley lot was an incredibly diverse group, not at all limited to the "alt right".
If everyone just followed the party lines, the biggest party would always win, and that obviously doesn't happen.
>>137306727
I'd disagree that societies and cultures are necessarily collectivist concepts.
I do not believe you have to be a collectivist in order to belong to a set culture. That is to say, I think culture and the ilk is more about similar values, behaviors, mannerisms, and so on, rather than any "we are all the same" bullshit.

>>137305088
>Human beings have a right to live together in a multi-ethnical society if they wish
and we also have a right to live in a monoethnic society if we wish so what's your fucking point?

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>>137297546
He means that they should know better than to show their power level so openly in the current year.

>>137296090
I don't get him. He knows there are collective differences between the races like IQ distribution and rates of violence, but he just keeps speaking against racial collectivism.

I agree with interacting with individuals based on their actions, but I don't think Sargon gets it. Societal level issues can't be solved through individualistic means - In the context of an entire nation, policy MUST be formulated with collectivism in mind.

What does he think the end game is here? That minority groups, treated fairly and equally, will just accept that they're flatly incapable of the same success that whites and others enjoy? THAT'S the core issue of where all the intersectionallity and minority empowerment insanity in the left comes from, and no amount of liberal equality is capable of making any of these groups revert from turning their inferiority complexes into superiority complexes.

>>137307367
>muh helicopter
Fuck helicopters, they're too nice. I think the best punishment for fascists is to live in an SJW nigger utopia. Guess I'm going to get what I wanted.

>>137307636
No he didn't.

>>137307665
Oy vey.

>>137307655
He got hired by MTV, he's not going to touch radioactive ideas.

Why all this infighting when you can fuck with the sjw scum?

>>137296359
Should I rape my little sister or not rape her? I guess both sides are wrong I'll just rape her a little bit

Sargon is right. You're all violent pricks.

>>137307655
>Societal level issues can't be solved through individualistic means
dude mouthy vishnu unironically is shilling for mindfulness and meditation as the true solution to society's woes

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>>137300406
You are okay, Mr. Goldstein

>>137307801
Did he really?

>>137307864
That's not exactly going to fix a crime ridden ghetto.

>>137307655
>Collectivism = Reddit
>Individualist anarchy = /pol/
Pick one. You have zero proof that collectivism is at all required. There is an abundance of literature on the wisdom of crowds, which requires autonomy and independent decision-making, as well as mathematical proofs of free market economics always being more efficient than collectivist planning.

You nazis are finally admitting you're fucking socialists and we can finally fucking tell you you're flat out fucking wrong and you need to abandon your regressive 1930s ideology. Collectivism does not fucking work.

>>137306641
I would call the EU a neo-liberal corporatocracy with global economic integration as its end goal, it generally favours wealthy elite and oligarchs,

>>137307614
I don't see what you are unable to connect here. Right-wingers are generally pro-individualist but we both see that political blocs are necessary under democratic socialism.... what are you trying to prove?

I hate democracy, don't believe in party politics, don't care about changing laws via the vehicle of centralised politics. I would much rather see organised militias topple the existing power structure, and let ancap warlords pick up the pieces afterwards. Who the fuck cares

>>137307001
Because they want to enforce laws, regulations, policies, and other shit, what are built with the 'collective' in mind, you faggot.
I thought you were an individualist. Surely I don't have to explain to you why putting fucking collectivists in power is a goddamn bad idea.
What, was that a lie? Why say it, then?

I don't want fascists in power because their collectivist ideology is by its very nature going to be against the individual, when it suits them and their 'collective'.
>>137307367
The helicopter thing is more of a meme, but no, that's wrong anyway. Fascism is not "removing commies". It's a proper ideology, with a fair load of writing behind it.

I can stop using the term, if you prefer, though. I can just say "hard-right collectivist identitartians", if you prefer.
It's what I am getting at, in any case.

>>137306727
That's great, believe whatever you want.

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>>137305073
Step-son. Not his biological kid. He just calls the kid "my son". In my opinion that's even worse than saying "my girlfriend's son" but whatever... It's just sad that his young impressionable fans can't see how much of a pathetic bitter fuck their "so brave so masculine" role model is. But oh well...

>>137307838
Should I turn up the heat to 300 degrees or to -300 degrees? Make a choice. No centrist bullshit allowed.

Why fight a centrist when you can fight a far leftist?

>>137307957
thanks, if it ever comes down it it I'll gas myself.

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>>137307676
Look harder m8, Nige is an infinite-D Chess Grandmaster

>>137307841
WRONG

THIS is what real violence sounds like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqQXmnMr_w8

And THIS is what it looks like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xxe-GcCGoM4

I am sick and tired of your lies, your strawmans and your and the entire "skeptic communities" pathetic weakness, masquerading as reason.

They don't care about the truth. They are cultists, moral cowards and bullies. Nothing more.

>>137300406
If you physically remove communists but not nazis, you haven't solved the problem.

horseshoe theory is a thing because people are intellectually lazy in categorizing people. like when they call the protestors all Nazis or white supremacists. or they call all bernie supporters communists. or when they call libertarians right wing . or when they call populists left or right wing.

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>>137307636
>>137308212
>So much wishful thinking again
Sad!

>>137308349
It's worth noting that /pol/ does most of these.

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>>137308139
You are extremely unfamiliar with Hoppean libertarianism, go learn more before hounding me.
Being anti-state does not mean being anti-authority. Anyway, you are pretty boring to talk to.

>>137308265
I agree. Fuck BLM and fuck Antifa. But now that there is blood on your hands also, you no longer have the moral highground.

>b-but the started it
Yes, they did. Doesn't excuse what happend.

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>>137308292
are you sure? Nazis tend to work pretty hard, take care of their families, etc.
They would live well under an ancap society, they could even opt for a fashy reality if there were enough shekels to support it.

>>137296359
No.

>>137301558
>White nationalists should act with open hostility towards Marxists, anti-whites, and their sympathizers
Please do this. Please please please.

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>>137308292

>>137308204
we'll gas you last. for the record, i just want a high trust libertarian society but i have a very fascistic leaning now because just retreating into voluntary communities is literally not possible anymore so here we are, hoping to use the bootheel and not get bootheeled

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>>137308172
Ha Ha, has he ever said "My wife's son"?

>>137307993
Yes. As confirmed on his Twitter. He's trying to get hired by MTV. RCP called it months ago.

Why do you think Laci Green defected to the skeptics?

>>137308110
>W-Why can't it be liek it used to be!
>M-Muh constitution!

Meanwhile America is 50% white and dropping and none of these non-whites give half a fuck about your precious manuscript, but hey at least you're not a racist.

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>>137296815
I was really moved by your words, so I tried looking up this "Sargon of Akkad." But then I found that he was winning really hard against identity politics on Twitter and had to look at one of his 3-hour long YouTube videos, wherein I discovered that he was very successful at opposing the UK Labour Party. Keen uncover more I learned that he's just some fat harasser that will be winning at Patreon sooner rather than later.

Oh well, time to look up this James Demore fellow and see if he's the one that will lead to a successful push against identity politics.

>>137306510
both groups are authoritarian retards who base their worldview on race

>>137308117
Mate, I fucking answered this ages ago. Read my fucking posts, you faggot. What the fuck's the point in arguing with someone, if you aren't even going to read what they say?
You state in your post
>>137300192
>"Hardline right-wingers are in general individualists, even when organised'
To which I reply >>137300814 that such seems to not be the case.
You claim in >>137301176
that such was 'anecdotal', and that outside of the nazis, and the KKK, they're individualists, to which I respond with >>137301507
That the most recent alt right stuff seems to clearly point to collectivism.

So what I am trying to "prove", you illiterate faggot, has been that the far-right are not individualists. That's literally what this back and forth has been about this entire fucking time. Why do faggots like you never get the tiny understanding of english required to follow basic fucking context?
Also, I just said in my post >>137307614
>"Also, I fundamentally disagree that parties are required for anything."
So no, we definitely do not "agree" that "political blocs are necessary"
Though, to be fair, you do tack on a random "democratic socialism" to the end of that, which I've no idea where came from. That is also something I don't like, for what it is worth. Any kind of socialism is cancer.

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>>137308772
Hey I appreciate that.
I feel, ya man. Hard to imagine having that kind of society without some serious action. Couldn't imagine myself at such an ideological vantage 8 years ago but see what's possible when liberals are left unchecked? Literal communism.

>>137308639
I have no blood on my hands, thank you very much.

And you still don't have an argument. Not to mention the driver was a confused leftist anyway.

>>137308650
>nazis work hard
They lost the war. and GERMANS work hard. American nazis are neckbeard NEETs.
>nazis take care of their families
Oh wow, they're slightly better than a nigger dad.
>work well in AnCap
Yeah if you remove the national and socialist out of nazi. They want welfare for whites, they want socialized benefits, guaranteed employment, and nationalized industry. The actual political platform of nazism besides "muh Aryans" is socialist garbage.
>fashy reality
Violates the fucking NAP.

>>137309044
>That the most recent alt right stuff seems to clearly point to collectivism.
dude white collectivism is literally just saying "we are a group and have group interests and will organize as a group if some faggots try and step on any of us from the outside" that's it. it's not about giving up your individual rights or anything god damn.

>>137309150
>reality violates the fucking NAP
then the NAP sucks you idealistic cretin

>>137297295
DO IT FAGGOT!

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>>137309150
Oh no! We lost the war against all the superpowers of the world combined and only just. You lost against Vietnamese rice farmers and are now cucked by the very ideologies and people you fought alongside and for.

Really impressive.

LMAO @ your life, burger

>>137309211
dude collectivism is still cancer

Oppose cuckolds taking away your rights in the name of individualism, not some racial bullshit.
You only play in to their hands doing that. You're literally going by their rulebook.
Those faggots who are stepping on you? They're stepping on individuals. There's literally no reason you have to resort to collectivist bullshit in order to oppose them.

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>>137309044
you're honestly just beating a dead horse.
I am an operationalist, we have a clear difference of philosophical basis owing to our contrary opinions about actioning.

>>137309150
haha now I am gonna defend Hitler.
Ok, yeah they lost. Did Germany have the highest population in Europe at the time? Asking for a friend... Wasn't there some kind of "Judea declares war on Germany" thing in 1932? Really gets the melon watered..

Look if a bunch of people pool their resources so they can have a NatSoc city state I don't see the problem—who's the fascist now?

>>137306770
Fine, how are antifa and fascists similar. Is that better?

>>137309569
See:
>>137308903

>>137308832
I don't give a shit how race realist you are; even if 99% of niggers are savages, a public government should be willing to chance the 1 in 100 that aren't. Because it's public, for EVERYBODY. That's why very, very fucking few things should be public.

>50% white and dropping fast
Don't give a shit about the human version of pandas.

>non-whites don't care about the constitution
I don't need the niggers to know about the constitution, i need the niggers to follow the fucking rules. And they will if you stop the unconstitutional welfare state. Because it's either work or starve.

>muh whiteness muh whiteness muh whiteness
Fuck you white boy. All you Dicky Spencer fags bitch about the welfare state hurting white interests and helping niggers, but why the fuck does that mean we need to protect whites? Why the fuck isn't the solution end the fucking welfare state? Because you're just snow niggers. You don't want to work hard, you want the gibs to be for snow niggers only. Fuck you.

>>137305088

>Fucking nazis, show me the facts!
>OK, you showed me the facts, but muh feels!

Everytime

>>137309523
If "beating a dead horse" is calling someone out on their illiteracy and poor argumentation, I'm fine doing that, faggot.
Seriously, man, I've had more productive arguments with lefties.

>>137296859
I hit the dislike button like an hour ago. After seeing this post, I open the jewtube link, and notice my dislike had was taken off. Classic jewtube tactics to protect their shills.

>White people are the root of all evil and need to be exterminated
t. Marxists

>Wtf we have to defend ourselves
t. White people

>woah woah woah, what do you mean "ourselves?" That sounds like collectivist talk to me. Can't you see that you Nazis are just as bad as the Marxists?
t.Sargon

>>137298148
fucking kek

>>137308903
>>137308903
Antfia is made from lefties who want their groups to be as diverse as possible. How do they think about race in anyway, they are solely looking to kill or hurt "nazis" (anyone who disagrees with them) and replace government with anarchism.

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>ITT, libertarians pushing centrist horseshoe theory crap
I thought you guys were better than than that.

>>137296359
Sargon pls

>>137309736
uhuh
you seem to be taking quite a shine to me, before you go any further I should let you know that I only date whites.

>>137309517
And where is the individual when the entire nation, in fact when all white Europeans are drowing before your very eyes.

You will ONLY have a free societs with white Europeans. With nobody else. Even the high IQ Asians are by default much more collectivist than real Nation Socialist Germany ever was.

>>137298148
kek

>>137309523
Take your fucking AnCap flag off you fucking socialist. Hitler was a socialist. Nazi is slang abbreviation for national socialist. They wanted a welfare state to protect Aryan peoples. IT IS JUST GIBS FOR WHITES. Gibs are the problem; race is the kike trick to hide it from you. No man should eat what another man has earned.

>>137297546
Just looked this up on Twitter, so many replies by butthurt liberals. I think farage is a master shitposter

>>137309821
This. Bumped

>>137309707
The "feels" of our society are relevant. We're not robots.

>>137309853
This 100%

>>137309894
Drowning before my eyes, dumbshit.
Which is why I'll be opposing the folk throwing him in the sea.

I disagree with your race-based collectivist interpretation of who can become an individualist.
Big surprise, innit.

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>>137310003
>Universal healthcare and a solidarity of the Volk is GIBS you guys

>>137310082
Communists aren't people, therefore they can't 'feel' anything

Time for sargoy to be flagged into oblivion lets go faggots

>>137308110
I am not a nazi, and I disagree with socialist economics on every level. Economically an individualist approach will always result in the highest gains, but that isn't what I'm talking about.

In particular, I'm speaking on immigration policy, international politics, and state and nation level policing.

Firstly, in terms of the nation, immigration policy should be tightly controlled with a focus on both merit AND cultural cohesion. Someone from Britain or the Netherlands with a middling education should have a similar ease of access to immigrating to the US as an African with a much higher level of education, if not easier. This is not just beneficial to the US, as, multiracialism and multiculturalism is a cancerous failure, but it encourages the African to remain in his home country and attempt to improve it rather than abandoning ship.

Foreign aid to all nations should be heavily restricted or even non-existent - It can be argued to make situations in poor countries worse by encouraging overpopulation.

Finally, those forces that police minority majority areas should be empowered to crack down on all crime without leniency. Many minority groups will naturally not be capable of the same success as whites and others, and it is not valid to allow them to constantly drag each other down because of the crime this failure causes. Hopefully, after a long enough period of culling all criminal elements of the population, natural selection will encourage their situation to improve to a tolerable level.

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>>137309853
they are SUPPOSED to be better than that, but nu-/pol/ is a foreboding and devoid place it seems.

All these summer fags don't even know about the Ancap-NatSoc Alliance. Pathos indeed

>>137310003
I am a jew, so would be nice to be a nazi eh?
What's next, you are gonna tell me you don't like Hoppe either? Sure is summer in here.

>>137310003
What is wrong with helping out your own native population? Sounds like you are pretty selfish to me.

>>137309682
End the welfare state and the marxists will go 1848. Without the institution of serfdom and slavery keeping the plebs fed they began to believe in enforced egalitarianism. People don't "just starve" they turn into desperate lunatics who rip society apart and take wealth by force.

>>137310196
>>137310264
>>137310269
And now you realise the cancerous and self-serving nature of these ancaps.

>>137309853
There are two types of lolbertarians. There are autistic deontologists that lost politics forever a century ago, and then there are the intellectuals who get paid to legitimize the current capture of the State by oligarchs by making appeals to meritocracy and individualism.

>>137308793
Motherfucker, I can't believer that guy called it so hard.

He was just recently on a trip to, was it them calling him in for an interview?

>>137310082
Wrong. There is an objectively best way to organize a society, and it is AnCap/libertarian. Everything else deserves free helicopter rides.

>muh white people are just defending themselves
LIAR. Whites don't own the entirety of the United States. The implicit understanding that it was only for whites was explicitly reversed by the 14th amendment. You say you want to solve the dysgenic welfare state, but then why not just end welfare instead of trying to create a "white ethnostate". White isn't an ethnicity. The Israeli ethnostate is literally the biggest source of tension in an entire region. Nobody is asking you to fuck niggers, but you can't go full nazi sperge because you're tired of the welfare system YOU SET UP.

>>137310244
>Hopefully, after a long enough period of culling all criminal elements of the population, natural selection will encourage their situation to improve to a tolerable level.

This seemed to have been occurring with blacks before "civil rights"

>>137310182
You were self contradicting.

Big surprise, innit.

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>>137310369
isn't something that grows without control like a welfare state somewhat analogous to a cancerous tumor? Clarification required...

Come to think of it, can someone explain to me how socialism and cancer are different?

>>137310369
Well it's not like I've ever been an ancap. I've known they are self serving for a while.

>>137310196
>universal healthcare
>universal healthcare
>universal healthcare
YOU CAN KEEP YOUR FUCKING NIGGERCARE IN EUROPE.

>>137310244
Lolbertarians have a difficult time justifying any impediment to one of the factors of production, namely labor, and its movement.
They are, after all, on a grand project of removing all of the inefficiency of human existence from the production and consumption of goods.

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>>137309682
>I don't give a shit how race realist you are; even if 99% of niggers are savages, a public government should be willing to chance the 1 in 100 that aren't. Because it's public, for EVERYBODY. That's why very, very fucking few things should be public.
This is just make believe bullshit at this point, you're literally taking a gamble that you have a 99% chance to lose, you're actually mentally disabled if you believe this. It's not like you're only losing money either, you're losing your country and an entire people as well

>Don't give a shit about the human version of pandas.

That analogy doesn't make sense, white people are being outbred by Juan and his fifteen children, they haven't stopped reproducing. If your counter to this is that white people should also have that many kids I would like to notify you that it's fairly impossible in the current economy unless you get handed out money as the brown hordes do.

>I don't need the niggers to know about the constitution, i need the niggers to follow the fucking rules. And they will if you stop the unconstitutional welfare state. Because it's either work or starve.

They are following the rules, they changed the rules to suit them because "whitey" was altogether too kind and simply let them because he felt bad. The welfare state might be unconstitutional, but they don't really care about that and they will never let you change it.

>all this shit at the end

Did I break you or something? this is literally just you vomiting onto your keyboard about how much you hate whitey, also you'll never end the welfare state because all the brown hordes you so fervently defend will never let you.

>>137310221
Oh yeah? Racists aren't people, why do you think you're relevant, again? See? I can play the fool too.

>>137310566
yeah man, Coach Red Pill nailed it for sure on that one!

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>>137309682
your entire way of thinking is a meme and you are an illiterate retard

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>>137296090
>>137296359
Someone ban this shill.

>>137310713
Here we see the fruits of the lolbertarian intellectual, where even Hayek is a communist, because nothing may disrupt the extant social order.

>>137310369
Not all of them. I think freedom and ethno nationalism go hand in hand tbqh. It always needs to compromise, a give and take in reality. Actual politics is never about absolutes. But the principal stands. A united people, living strengthened by the heritage of their ancestors, but free do develop as individuals as they see fit. Pretty much the same way that I think that German social market economy was the best in all of history: free market, but with social standards.

It only worked in an de facto ethno state though. That is what becomes very clear in the last ten years. So: if you advocate for multi culturalism, you advocate against the common man and the worker, and only for the mega rich and the multi national companies.

>>137310644
Exactly. Particularly when welfare ballooned into that sphere.

Cut the welfare, crack down on crime harshly, eventually the only people left will be law abiding and reasonably successful based on their own merits.

Sort of a reverse fall through the cracks.

>>137296728
I love when slavs, blacks, jews, and others start off their posts with,
>'I know I'm a _____ and deserve the oven, but...."
Literally the same thing white cis males have to do at feminist SJW events.

Face it
>European whites account for 50% of the U.S. population when you exclude "white Hispanics"
>half of these are women
>women have no in-group loyalty and overwhelmingly vote for leftist politicians.
You won't get anywhere with your purity tests, the only reason it worked in Germany was because the nation was already completely white.

>>137310809
And by that logic you'll never end the brown hordes because they won't let you. Guess you and the person you're arguing with should both give up on your ideals and stick with [Position I'm trying to convince you to join which coincidentally happens to be mine]

>>137311060
who exactly is pol trying to censor? the board literally prides itself on being one of the last bastions of free speech.

>>137310346
This is why you crack down with a police boot heel.

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>>137310713
You are against universal healthcare, because you are a multi cultural country. It worked perfectly fine when Germany was an ethnostate.

And Germany after Hitler and before the emporement of the 1968ers was the best country on earth: there was a sense of fundamental solidarity and unity from the CEO to the man at the machine. And looking at what neo liberalism and the far left have made out of this country, I have to come to the conclusion that it was, sadly or not, an aftereffect of NatSoc Germany and the Volksgemeinschaft.

>>137310244
>immigration tightly controlled
>merit
Sure; granted.
>cultural cohesion
Exactly who determines what is cultural cohesion? You are creating the exact slippery slope that the kikes will use to manipulate later. Objective, statistical reality or nothing at all.
>multiculturalism is cancerous failure
Wrong. Niggers and spics are weak cultures. Belgium has Flanders and Waloons and they get along reasonably well. Germany and France were never "one" ethnicity. There are few Africans in the States, and they're generally fairly well off. Blacks, the descendant population of imported slaves, are an entirely American phenomenon. The nigger must be rehabilitated, like Frederick Douglass, or euthanized.

>Foreign aid
Zero; agreed.

>policing & eugenics
Equal policing for all people; no leniency. You don't *know* that white genes are necessarily the best, and if you really wanted the full effect of natural selection it wouldn't be about race, it would be about individual families.

>>137296090
lolololol didn't expect the kid behind this voice to be a chubby nerd/lumberjack hybrid

>>137311211
>And by that logic you'll never end the brown hordes because they won't let you

On the contrary my fine scurvy-ridden friend, our lolbertarian compatriot wants everyone to get along and embrace democracy, however I would recommend an altogether more efficient and violent solution.

>>137311161
Voting is a fraud anyway and we all know it

Unironically a good video

>>137310264
There is no fucking AnCap-NatSoc alliance. Fuck Nazis, and fuck you. Socialism has no place in the modern world. You are the horseshoe mirror image of the berniebro; except instead of worshiping black niggers you worship the snow nigger variant instead.

I think Hoppe is overrated and physical removal is a dangerous precedent to set.

>>137311465
>Exactly who determines what is cultural cohesion?

Cultural cohesion is shared values and mutual trust

Nobody in the US trusts their neighbors anymore because they are all mixed between the races

Cultural cohesion means participation in government at all levels

>>137311732
lmao, when did you find this site on reddit?

>>137296090
actually Sargon is on-point with this one

>>137296359
>the horseshoe theory is 100% real
[Citation needed]

>>137296658
You absolutely are.
You're both cancerous collectivists who choose to see people as racial and gender monoliths rather than as individuals with their own beliefs, goals and ideals.

>>137310346
>rip society apart and take wealth by force
That's why we have a 2nd amendment here. I don't know where fag flag lives, but it's a shithole so fuck (you).

>>137310269
What's wrong with putting your family before your "racial brethren"? What's wrong with being selfish? Greed is good.

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>>137311732
You are clearly new here. Ancap-NatSoc Alliance going on 3 years and counting. I will not throw them under the bus. We know what we are up against.

>>137307841
Yes, I am. But commies deserve to suffer.

>>137311327
literally any time someone creates a thread that goes against the hivemind you get a bunch of people crying shill, and screaming sage, slide thread, report. /pol/ HATES anyone not towing the party line and will try to shut down any one does it.

>>137311327
They are Twitterfags coming here to complain about their "cultural lolbertarian" new-media allies trying to disrupt their opposition's public events.

>>137311758
It's true actually. I have witnessed the transformation first hand. If you have it, you don't even really know you have it, because you take it for granted. But when you lose it, as Germanistan is REALLY transforming know, you really, really feel the loss. And there is nothing that can bring it back.

It's pretty much like health, or youth, or freedom in this regard.

>>137312023
When you think people making fun of you online is censorship.
Flag checks out.

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>>137312023
nice flag for the bait, still 2/10