Four Point Plan to Restructure the Alt-Right

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>>137295730
Fuck off cia faggot

Bumping for support.

>>137296406

> the CIA wants us to form a united movement!
> we should remain isolated bands of degenerate neonazis, religious fundamentalists, and libertarians, because that's done so much for the white race over the past 50 years

Using a temporary trip from now on to distinguish my posts

What we've been doing for the last 50 years is not working. If we are easy to divide, we will be easy to defeat. A central buracracy is essential in every revolutionary movement. Make no mistake - the alt-right is revolutionary. Modern society is designed to subvert and destroy the political and economic power of white people. Our movement is designed to turn back that tide.

Look at COINTELPRO (directed against black nationalists) and the fall of the 90s milita movement: state security is good at infiltrating and subverting fly-by-night groups. We need internal security (conducting background checks, interviews, internal disciplinary actions, etc.) to protect active members and counteract these actions.

We also need to shift away from public facing events. Although the Unite the Right rally was a PR defeat, the march on UVA the night before was a resounding success. It was a sucess because it was coordinated internally - our foes cound not coordinate an effective opposition in time to counter us. We were able to set the terms of the event, rather than the government and the media (groups that will ALWAYS treat us unfairly). Compare that to the rally: even though we had a permit and a court order allowing the rally to proceed, Virginia State Police allowed us to enter the park, corralled us in, and then forced us out - making our members run a guantlet of violent counterprotestors. Despite the "law" prohibiting them from doing so, they were able to set the terms of the event and they used it to their advantage.

Our movement runs on trust. We cannot trust the government, we need to be able to trust each other. That depends on a beauracracy to coordinate our movement and protect against outside subversion.

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>>137298409
you need to frequent places like Unz, Takis, American Renaissance, and VDare, spread the word in the commentary over there, you won't reach people on /pol/

>>137298889

I think /pol/ is probably the most useful site for activating normal people. Once the Kekistani cringe stuff dies down, we'll be left with thousands of young men who are sympathetic to white identity movements and familiar with our messaging.

>>137299563
i guess if you're trying to reach young male normies, don't laugh but Return of Kings fulfills that invaluable function (even if it is cringy). i see your point, its the normies we need to reach. /pol/ is just shitposting chaos usually

>>137295730
Bump. This needs to happen if the movement is to have a future.

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>>137296468

Thanks bros, we're going to make it.

>>137295730
>Identity Evropa (I hate the name)
Dimagio is good for activism. If it comes to agenda setting I trust Spencer and the NPI more. As them for the name, stay with Alt-Right, no matter what.
>Associate
One party or decentralise, you cannot have both

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>>137295730
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>>137301329
One of the best posts since this shit happened. Why can't we just fucking find jobs and move close by to each other?

All this marching shit is fucking stupid when we could just be making money and putting it propaganda, further development of numbers, websites, help with law, better infrastructure, money for better food and training etc.

>>137301800
Damigo is great with speaking with the media, but after Charlotteville, he will have hurdles again. Spencer should push on as the main heavyweight and focus on the Alt-Right.

>>137300203

> don't laugh but Return of Kings fulfills that invaluable function (even if it is cringy)

I agree - I mentioned in the OP that we needed to create pipelines. A lot of these "skeptic" and alt-light ecelebs act as a sort of ideological pipeline for young men.

Once people realize that they're being lied to about something by virtually everyone in the government and the media, they begin to question a lot of other things that there is popular consensus on. This is good for us. I know media coverage of something as silly as Gamergate turned a lot of people over to our side, or at least made them trust traditional media much less.

>>137301800

> One party or decentralise, you cannot have both

I agree, but we could have one organization with multiple chapters across the country - all of which take orders from the central party leadership.

Generation Identity has done a good job of this. They don't "seed" new chapters, just force potential chapter in a previous unaffiliated city to go through a vetting process to ensure that they have enough members, are of good character, don't present personality problems (such as being hostile to central leadership), and aren't full of government infiltrators.

>>137302201
>All this marching shit is fucking stupid
necessary, if you think otherwise I can't take you serious. It is like saying
>Hey my new brand is so hip it doesn't need to be out there
But yeah, you are right, making money and forming networks is important to AND can be made on marches, protests, conventions...
>Damigo is great with speaking
>Spencer should push on as the main heavyweight and focus on the Alt-Righ
so you keep shilling the D&C method or what do you try to say?

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>>137295730
Love a good thread like these.
Getting really tired of threads about hating germans, french, americans ect. If we combined together in support we'd be able to elevate humanity so much further.

>>137302201

> Why can't we just fucking find jobs and move close by to each other?

We can! In fact, if we don't do this we will be destroyed.

> All this marching shit is fucking stupid

I agree that it can be, but I think the real problem is with unsucessful marches (which are always PR disasters). If the event had just been the pre-rally march on UVA, I think everyone would have considered it a massive sucess and the start of the Identitarian movement as a popular force in American politics.

Charlottesville wasn't a complete wash. There was a lot we did right.

>>137303064
>march like fucking clueless and powerless retards goy
We are not ready yet. That comes later, trust me.

>But yeah, you are right, making money and forming networks is important to AND can be made on marches, protests, conventions...
Good that you see it that way.

>so you keep shilling the D&C method or what do you try to say?
Come again? Where is the D&C? We all have our roles and separation into roles is natural.

>>137303202
>We can! In fact, if we don't do this we will be destroyed.
Exactly! We have to move close by, drop the fucking bullshit and face reality. You wake up and LIVE for the cause, no pissing around with games, no porn, no shitty food, only pure living for the cause. You learn your Nation again, you walk streets you have never walked in a long time. Basically, get the fuck back out there into the fight.

>Charlottesville wasn't a complete wash. There was a lot we did right
True, but we must stop the hemorrhaging that (((fox))) and others are doing against us. Else momentum has been stifled. This is the big challenge that faces everyone in N. America.

>>137303615
>shamelessly using your enemies memes

Faggots like this will amount to nothing and they know it.

>>137301800

> If it comes to agenda setting I trust Spencer and the NPI more. As them for the name, stay with Alt-Right, no matter what.

I agree that Spencer is great, but he's too intellectual to be the figurehead of the movement. We need someone more conventially tough. I think it would be better if NPI and Spencer began to operate under the banner of IE. It's clear that Spencer and Damigo are close personally, I don't think that there would be too many issues posed by Spencer taking a senior leadership role in that organization.

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stay strong pol

>>137302821
So basically GenID for the US. Will not work. Europe is a a continent off countries with deep rooted Traditions and cultures different from each other. The US is a common Identity. I know that GenID tries to lobby for that common European heritage, but they don't deny the national, or rather cultural ethnological background of the countries and regions, it is rather necessary in the wake of Boomers fear of no gibs for the next 40 years.

Personally I think you would need a by far more centralized organization in the US, strict rules and guidelines with hierarchies inside the local chapter where the "leaders" take their orders from the regional coordinators and those from the centre, with Identity as the muscle and NPI as the Brain, the question is just, how will you call yourself.

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>>137295730
>3. Procreate

>>137303979
The right doesn't work bottom up or horizontal, it's strength is a defined hierarchical system, with the leader having all the power and responsibility. When you let every chapter have its own little special fee fees you are basically the right side of the left.
>>137304125
You are not Europe, sorry lads. And the Alt-Right is a name people know by now, no matter how much the media has jumped on it and tried to burn it. Keep on using it, that's better than playing by their rules and abandon a term when they say you should

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I got a much more simple and effective plan

>People actually become NatSoc and realize the alt-right leaders are faggots
>actually oppose the system
>win

These are all excellent points. Thank you for posting these anon

>>137305241
Well, where is the leader? Spencer seems it, but even then where is the structure? Why isn't there daily training routines set by such leadership?

Memes and rallies won't cut it. As I said, closer proximity is needed and so is the desire to live for the cause: have fun for fucks sake. Too many moody faggots in our movement.

>>137305607
Lead the way then, faggot.

>>137303163
Well spoken my friend, well spoken

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>>137295730

>completely centralize a global movement

No.

>>137298409
This! A million times this. Learn to do this and become disciplined at it, my soon to be Donbassified brothers!

>>137305773
Who says that the leadership can't get a catalogue of activities together which are fun? The structure is currently still in a discursive phase, where books and articles, videos and forums are the structure. The next step are marches conventions and protests, hell why not going to the Alt-Right discord and asking who is in for a book club or going to the range; or better, have one from the centre organize it, give someone responsibility and look how he manages it

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Take the /vargpill/
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTUj9yTXg2o&t=0s

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Why not just shut down /pol/ for 3 months so we can all collectively take a much needed break?

>>137306442

Degenerate libertarianism is responsible for the state we're in right now. We need to unify.

>>137295730


As a shitskin, I think we all lose. Most of the world would love to see us divide and conquer ourselves. You made the mistake of actually buying in, to one side or the other. I think both sides represent ouroboros, the snake that devours itself. The left being the head, because in it, at least a brain exists. The right, the tail, because this is where the shit comes out. I blame the left as much as the right for eating shit in the first place. If it were up to me, any radicals would have their tongues and genitalia removed.

>>137295730
>Plan to get co-opted by the ZOG
No thanks

>>137309389
no alliance with muslim. you showed 2011 that you side with the jew, you showed in the 70's you sid with the jew, you always sided with the jew. Go try the left, they seem to like your kind, the traditionalist white likes to see you hang beside your masters the kikes and your allies the left

>>137309389

> As a shitskin, I think we all lose. Most of the world would love to see us divide and conquer ourselves.

I understand your persepective and sympathize with your situation, but you aren't offering white people any solution to the problem other than accept a slow death.

> I blame the left as much as the right for eating shit in the first place. If it were up to me, any radicals would have their tongues and genitalia removed.

Neat, but it isn't up to you. The political and media establishments are persistantly attempting to subvert and destroy the white race. They are winning. If we don't do anything and just let thing proceed as normal, they will win. I believe the best way to protect white people from oppression is the creation of a White homeland. What form that homeland will take is up to discussion, but one thing is for certain is that if "moderates" and "centerists" have their way, the political and economic power of white people will be subverted until it is destroyed.

Is Vancucks any good or is their credibility totally shot?

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>>137295730

Some proper fucking leaders would be a good start. Drop Spencer and the Nazi fanaticism

>>137310408

I'd say that American Vanguard isn't a good option because they've failed to gain significant traction in the last year, are openly fascist, and are associated with the Charlottesville car guy because they failed to maintain strict discipline (giving him a shield flagged with their logo despite not screening him). They are poison in the media in a way that Spencer or Damigo are not.

That said, the organization is full of good people who should be easy to integrate into whatever successor organization we decide on.

>>137295730
I am not joining any faggy group. You continually act like retards.

>>137311268

Cool, good luck standing up for your rights when we're outumbered 10 to 1 a la South Africa.

>>137311027
So, if I join up I do not have to be worried about blacklisted, or fed'd? That is my main concern really. I was worried That their story could change over the week, but I believed they had enough integrity to not put themselves in that situation.

>>137311556

> So, if I join up I do not have to be worried about blacklisted, or fed'd?

Right or wrong, this will always be a risk.

To be honest I don't think that our future organization should even keep digital copies of its membership list - too easy for state actors to get a hold of and then leak to liberal groups.

>>137308815
>Degenerate libertarianism is responsible for the state we're in right now. We need to unify
No it hasn't. Its post modernism. This is one reason i cant take you fucks seriously. A you believe in a retard hack named Spencer and you have no deep and realistic understand of the world around you.

Yes I agree. I'm fit and have a wife and 2 kids. We need to start employing our own kind. We have to start businesses for infrastructure. Only hire red pilled people and gain political power.

>>137311530
Tell me your plan on how to make an ethno state.

>>137295730
bump

go lift right now lads

>>137302201
This. We need to find a large corporate business and hire only red pilled members and unite together

>>137312139

> Its post modernism

Libertarianism provides no effective mechanisms to prevent subversion of a nation's demographics and culture. Our enemies are unified. They have multinational corporations and well-funded political groups with tens of thousands of members. If the state cannot effectively respond to these groups when they pose a threat to the nation's future, then it will eventually be destroyed.

> A you believe in a retard hack named Spencer and you have no deep and realistic understand of the world around you.

Says the guy whose only plan is to keep doing what the right has been doing for the last 50 years. It hasn't worked because it's not designed to work. You're basically a useful idiot for the globalists, and will still get rounded up with the rest of us when they achieve their supermajority.

>>137295730
>Procreate
Impossible now. You have to be a 9/10 6ft model to get laid, let alone have kids. All is lost, see you in hell.

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>>137295730
OP, is this you?

>>137295730
So like ISIS but without the religion?

>>137313492
And not bombing the Shit out of people js

>>137295730
>anyone without a wife and child should be barred from holding senior roles
How many children did Hitler have? You are a literal retard.

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>>137295730
>>137298409
Finally something decent among the cancer that is /pol/ today.

>>137312354

In America?

> follow four points outlined in OP
> consolidate in low-population urban areas with large white populations
> direct action should only be in the form of disrupting anti-white events to raise awareness of anti-white bias
> alt-right successor organization takes on more civic roles focusing heavily on charity work and youth recruting
> gradually infiltrate military and police forces around the nation
> put forward sympathetic candidates for state/local office under the banner of the Republicans
> after we've achieved critical mass (supermajority in several urban centers, with hundreds of thousands of people either sympathetic or indifferent to our message) the organization goes political and our politicians openly affiliate with us
> Republicans will be forced to form coalition or risk permanent electoral domination by the Democrats
> renew efforts to build human terrain (physical fitness, ideological education, economic initiatives) in areas contolled by us
> once party membership reaches in the hundreds of thousands, a contigous area politically controlled by our organization peacefully succeeds
> although the rights and property of non-whites will be respected, the new government will set hyperrestrictive immigration policies and remove consequences for discriminatory hiring practices, encouraging non-whites to move to the US
> at this point, the US will be too unstable (rampant crime, corruption, and other political activism) and too fearful of white sympathizers within their ranks to take decisive action against us
> in the unlikely event that the US does decide to aggress, resist incursions with total war

>>137313492

> All organiztions are ISIS

White nationalism 1.0 (religious fundamentalism and libertarianism), utterly failed to change the situation for white people in the US. We need to try something different, and that means emulating sucessful reactionary movements in the past without their baggage (racial violence).

>>137313637

Hitler wasn't faced with unprecidented demographic replacement.

This is a crisis that we can't hide from.

>>137313188

If you can't manage to get a gf, how do you expect to lead a movement against virtually every modern institution and save the white race.

>>137315803
Adolf Hitler never had a gf until he got involved in the political arena. Who the fuck are you to decide who gets a ranking position in an organization and who doesn't anyway?

>>137316039

> Adolf Hitler never had a gf until he got involved in the political arena.

Like I said, times have changed. Our society is under assault because the traditional family is now a minority. The nuclear family is one of the strongest bullwarks against subversion.

>>137316670
Times have changed but my point still stands. Cutting people out from positions in your movement because they don't have a gf/wife and kids is pathetic. Most people here don't have a gf/kids anyway so I don't know why you're advertising your "movement" here. Sage.

>>137317098

Obviously our movement (like every significant political movement) will primarily consist of young men. However, it is important for our leaders to set an example for these men. We need strong white familes. Requiring that senior leaders (an extremely small group) have families would go a long way toward encouraging emulation of this behavior among the rank-and-file.

> Most people here don't have a gf/kids anyway

I know. That's why we'll lose unless something changes.

Solid plan OP.

>>137317675
Well, alright. I'm young anyway so it's irrelevant to me right now.

>>137301329
I know this a weird thing to ask but do you have sauce on that picture? It looks like an album cover I know

>>137318029

Yeah, it's "sunset" by grant haffner

>>137295730
you are literally retarded. here read this http://www.kolumbus.fi/aquilon/content.htm and and stop planning shit, start doing shit. YOU NEED MONEY!

>>137295730
>procreate
Dogsitter here. I want to throw my piece of shit nephews in the dog crates.

If I ever have a family I would just end up killing them and then myself.

Not having a family is actually one of the best contributions I can make.

Giving my life to fight commies, Satanists, and journalists would be my #1 contribution

>>137295730
Why the fuck are you identifying as one of these groups faggot?

>>137319211
the best way you can give your life to fight commies is by having a family

>>137319675

This.

>>137295730

1 is impossible as far as 4chan goes. /pol/'s strength is it's ability to congegrate autists from various backgrounds without fear of social repurcussions.

If you start bringing people out of that anonymous place, it's main strength fades away.

>>137320665

4chan is a means to an end, not the end itself. Without street presence/physical action we don't have a real movement.

groups such as traditionalist workers party and vanguard america need to combine or grow

>>137321571

Agreed. Their members could easily integrate into a larger, more publically-accessable group like Identity Europa.

20 people get BTFO a lot more easily than 400 and rallys like Charllotesville shouldn't take months to prepare.

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One thing we NEED to do is completely drop the fascination the the Nazis and the Swastika, its fine here but the second you bring that into the public we will get blasted into the stratosphere by the media and Americans will turn their backs. We must find our OWN symbol with true meaning and aesthetic appeal, none of the American Identitarian movements have created one and that is a real signifier of how disconnected and dislodged from each other we are.
Americans need just ONE group, not 5 different ones. the Alt Right and NPU are a meme at this point and VA and IE are too small to do anything, we need to make one flag that all existing groups can rally behind and welcome new members. This new organization could focus on what OP said we need to do.

Everyone should post pictures like>>137303163 and just general Fashwave along with their posts. When you set one you like as your phone wallpaper of desktop background you run the possibility of starting a conversation with someone if they bring it up.

>>137317675
>>137317922
A hard age limit on who can be in an upper leadership position would be more effective, as long as a preference is placed on those with a wife and children

>>137296796
yes, actually

OP is always a faggot

Bumping a good thread in a sea of shills

>>137295730
>claims to be part of the "cause

>embracing the term and calling yourself (((alt-right)))


op is retarded

>>137296796
perhaps, but embracing the term "alt-right" is fucking retarded and just moves the overton window to the left

>>137325195

> perhaps, but embracing the term "alt-right" is fucking retarded and just moves the overton window to the left

The alt-right is an accurate label - we are an alternative to mainstream conservatism focused primarily on culture and ethnic identity. This is how our sympathizers know us and is the label we are stuck with.

>>137295730
Dude pls stop trying so hard.
Sad.

>>137327145

Thanks for your input, Jose.