Soviet Hate Thread

>>137282890
>gets sent to the Gulag for 10 years
Do you have any stories of your Great Grandfather in the Gulag?

>>137283126

He told me that life in the Gulags was completely hell. There were many soldiers that were sent there by Stalin so they began to form groups for protection. There were still many criminals which sort of ruled the prison system.

The guards overseeing the prison would stick people with diseases like tuberculosis into a cell that holds like 10-20 new prisoners who weren't really sick. They'd also really work you to death and two of his friends died carrying lumber during the winter.

>>137283723
Where was the Gulag in Russia? How did he manage to get out of it?

I was under the impression Crimean Tatars spent the whole war in labor camps in Kazakhstan in fear of them joining up with the Germans.

>>137282890
> Be Russian American
> Great Grandfather was a propaganda offices and interpreter in the red army during WW2
> Enter East Prussia Offensive
> He criticizes the way the Red Army treated the german population during the offensive
>gets sent to 10 years of Gulag for fostering "burgois humanism" and "compassion towards the enemy"
Hey at least he wrote a book, fuck yeah communism!

>>137282890
Kill yourself kulak.

>>137282890
>be me
>be shitskin
that's a terrible way to start a Soviet hate thread

>>137285160
ITT: I didn't live in communist shithole

>>137284209
Vorkutlag (located in Vorkuta)

>>137284536
My Great Grandfather is Crimean Tatar but grew up in the city of Tashkent, Uzbekistan. Very friendly people with a similar language. Also said the Russians there were much friendlier than the ones he met in the army.

>>137285190
I'm blonde with blue eyes. Whiter than you ever will be. Stfu with your /pol/ memes and have a discussion instead.

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>>137285752
dude on the right
>such beatiful AK-47
>motherfucker puts it down on the grass
>so disrespect

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>>137282890

My stepfather's grandfather was commander of a CEV (combat engineering vehicle) and was in almost continuous combat from Kursk to Berlin. He saw all kinds of fucked up shit like the NKVD forcing women and children to clear a minefield for the T-34s. When another officer protested and suggested using animals instead, the NKVD said "cattle were worth more than a few villagers".

In Germany, he got a front-row seat to watching the Red Army do shit like burn down a maternity hospital (with all the pregnant women and doctors still inside).

His first wife and children were killed in the Holocaust too.

Well, that's theft.

What were the great things about USSR?

>>137282890
My grand-grandfather was sentenced to capital punishment for printing anti-soviet agitation despite he couldn't read, my grand-grandmother and her children were sent to some town in Uzbekistan because of that.

>>137282890
>There were SOME great things
Like what?

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>>137287102
Quick rundown.

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>>137287521
>end famine

>>137285190
Crimean Tatars aren't shitskins. They're pretty white.

>>137285431
You could be the blondest man on earth you're still a Tatar and therefore non-white.

>>137287521
Gaidar was a retard but pretending Soviet economy was healthy and capable of going on without reforms is idiotic.
And where are you from? My mother was actually living in Russia in 80's, it was awful according to her.

>>137287748
Under capitalism famines happened every couple of years. Stalin solved this problem by solving the kulak problem. Ukrainian nationalists (the local bourgeoisie) have been butthurt about it ever since.

>>137282890
>Crimean Tatar
No such thing, tartars are not Ukrainian and have no right to the clay there

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>>137288029
(you)

>>137288096
>Ukrainian
no such thing, now get out

>>137285190
Russians are shitskins so what's the difference?

>>137288029
Name 1 (one) famine in late Russian Empire that came close to the famine in 30's.

>>137286418
Sounds fun how do I join this "red army"

>>137288029
>largest famine in history was in a communist country
>commiefags literally had to steal other people's food to feed their subhuman hordes

Niggers of the economic world everyone.

>>137287102
Killed a lot of shitskins both internally and externally
Also gave us a really easy way to weed out the weakest of our society

>Crimean Tatar
лoх

>>137287797
All tartars are shitskins

>>137288500
true, I know two """"communists"""" IRL and they're the least mentally stable people I know.

>be my great-great grandfather
>be 90 year old kulak
>be mostly blind, deaf and frail but still work every day to provide for your family
>commies roll in and demand you forfeit your land
>say no
>get forcefully dragged outside and get a bullet put in the back of your geriatric skull as your family watches
>100 years later western LARPers on the internet make memes about ebil kulak thieves getting put down by based uncle stalin

better dead than red tbqh

>>137288217
What's the matter pinko?
Butthurt Trump said vlafdy will leave Ukraine no matter what?

>Crimean Tartar

Go back to Asia you filthy Turkic scum.

>>137288648
When we move back to nationalism or traditionalism we'll know exactly who to hang and who to send out into the wastes

how the fuck communism became so mainstream around teens?

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>>137288746
>burn grain and refuse to work with soviets to produce more food IN THE MIDDLE OF A FUCKING FAMINE
>get shot

He deserved it and so did your family.

>>137289016
(((how))) indeed
go look at the ancestry of the average marxist jew in the US or europe and the odds of them having emigrated from the soviet union come down to a coin toss

>>137288500
>killed shitskin
nigger what, ussr was dictatorship of "shitsking" minorities

>>137287102
> old Russian pasta about soviet apologetics

THAT'S WHAT WE LOST WITH DEATH OF STALIN:
1. STYROFOAM WAS MADE OF MILK.YOU COULD FEED CHILDREN WITH IT.
2. GRAVITATION WAS LESS THAN ON THE MOON BY 80 PERCENT. PEOPLE COULD JUMP RIGHT ON ANY ROOF.
3. PEOPLE WERE LIVING FOR 150-190 YEARS. DISEASES DID NOT EXIST EXCEPT WORKER'S CALLUS.
4. IF SOMEONE FALLS ON THE STREET - EVERYONE RUNS TO HIM, PUT MONEY IN HIS POCKETS, KISS HIM IN LIPS, OFFER TO DRINK AND BECOME RELATIVES.
5. RABBITS AND CHICKEN WERE JUMPING IN THE FRYING PAN THEMSELVES.
PEOPLE WERE AFRAID TO GO FISHING - BURBOTS WERE JUMPING FROM THE WATER RIGHT INTO THE KETTLE
6. GRANDFATHER TOLD ME: PEOPLE WERE WAKING UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT FROM LAUGHTER. IN THE MORNING PEOPLE USED TO POUR COLD WATER ON THEMSELVES
7. PREGNANCY PERIOD WAS ABOUT 4.5 MONTHS. CHILDREN WEIGHED 12-15 KILOGRAMS, HAVING WHITE HAIR, BIG BLUE EYES, AND INTELLIGENT FACES - IMMEDIATELY ASKED TO LET THEM GO TO WORK
8. WATER IN VOLGA WAS SWEET AS SYRUP, YENISEY WAS FULL OF DARK BEER
9. IN WINTER AVERAGE TEMPERATURE WAS ABOUT -300 *C, EVERYONE HAD RED CHEEKS
10. BERRIES WERE THE SIZE OF A CAT, CATS WERE THE SIZE OF THE DOG, DOGS - OF THE COW, COW - OF THE WORKSHOP, AND IN THE WORKSHOP MEN WERE PLAYING BY BOTWINNIK'S METHODIC - CHECKMATE IN ONE TURN!

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>>137287521

>2nd fastest growing economy

Yeah, building entire cities with slave labor tends to do that.

>zero unemployment

If you don't work, you starve to death or go to Gulag and get made to work and then starve to death.

>end famine

lol

>higher calorie consumption

Okay...

>end racial inequality

By mass murdering/deporting entire ethnicities

>end sex inequality

Hence, why women had no major positions of power in the Soviet hierarchy, whereas a woman was nominated for Vice President of the United States in 1984.

>all education free

You mean brainwashing

>99%

Sure...

>most doctors per capita

Whatever nigga

>eliminate poverty

lol

>double life expectancy

going from 25 to 50 isn't really that impressive

>>>switch capitalism

>muh GDP

Uhh yeah, Russia had just lost much of its territory.

TL;DR more delusional than a stormfag

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>>137288354
>Learn to speak Russian
>find Russian officer
>suck his dick
>don't die in training
>???
>you are now stronk Russian soldier serving for the glory of the motherland!

>>137289092
>Believing Stalinist propaganda

The stupidity of Californians amazes me at times.

>>137287797
Crimean Tatars are basically Turks. You're thinking of Kazan Tatars.

>>137285752
>>137286276

I'm so torn lads

Ukraine is controlled by a khazar oilgharchy

Russia needs to incorporate more eugenics and cut off lefty groups organizing antifa in Moscow

If Ukrainian ultra right took back their country it wouldn't even be a contest

>>137289016
No idea about West but here communists are people who like Soviet-style communism, strong state, strong army, zero tolerance for bullshit, emphasis on industry, nuking America and bankers and stuff like that. It's like a weird version of conservatism.

>>137289295
sorry for shitty translation, was too lazy to check it

>>137289488

that's because people in mali i zi never had to deal with the soviet union nor did they experience true marxism-leninism. you had your little land of milk and honey known as yugoslavia which was very lax and heavily propped up by IMF loans

>have russian gf
>her grandmother tells stories about life in USSR
>lived her childhood in Turkmenistan, her mother was a teacher sent from Moscow, her father local school principal.
>went to moscow to study at university in the 1960's
>got married and had kids, but didn't have to quit work
>t'was breddy gud
>everyone had a job
>streets were safe
>everyone got basic healthcare
that's what she says. I tried to ask her grandfather, but he's a bit crazy in the head since he fell off a tractor many years ago, so he started explaining to me about how Russia dindu nuffin and has for centruries always been attacked by foreigners, but then gf's dad told him to stfu

all 100% true story, not even trolling

>>137289295
We have same stuff about Yugoslavia.
>you could sleep on the benches, no one locked doors, 4th army of Europe
>>137289927
I don't know my Albanian friend, I understand communism wasn't that sustainable but neither is this shit we have today.
You see son of a commie apparatchik had some privileges like getting a better education and minor stuff like that, now they run over peasants in their Ferrari's.
Stuff like this is what lead to communism in the first place.

>>137282890
>52 confirmed Kraut kills
Uhuh, sure. He's the orignal Rambo and shit.

>>137290224
Nothing strange in this. That's lost youth syndrome. I'm sure I will be thinking about 90s happily when I'm 60+

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>>137289765
Kek, these are great

>commies roll in and demand you forfeit your land
My great-grandfather had to give up 50 hectars of prime arable land,only to be given to some fuckers that never tend to it, even though the comissars always beat them with the whips to get them to work.
>mfw I would've had a secretary to write my shitposts if the fucking commies would've not stolen my land.

>>137290730
Furau si nasturii pula mea, asa saraci si retardati erau dupa ceva avere.

>>137289383
Is this from real footage?

I thought Russia was no homo

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>>137287521
>being this delusional
Where did you learn this in your Liberal Arts school?

>>137287102
Doktorskaya sausage.

>>137291294
It's legit. The Russian military has a serious rape and prostitution problem.

>>137282890
Is that an authentic soviet poster?
Lmao i would love to show it to my communist-feminist classmates and watch the meltdown

>>137288746
Better dead than red

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>>137287844

Commies in this thread: SOVIET RUSSIA WAS PERFECT, COMMUNISM FOR ALL
Commies outside this thread: THE SOVIET UNION WAS NOT REAL COMMUNISM, REAL COMMUNISM HAS NEVER BEEN TRIED

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>>137290730
>grandfather was just a kid/teen during war
>royalists (chetniks) pass through the village
>he sings a provocative song
>chetnik slaps him
>my grand-grandfather intervenes and knocks out the guy
>chetniks want to shoot my grand-grandfather
>luckily their commander comes, knows grand-grandfather, they let him go
>he gets a partisan pension because of this even though he didn't do shit during war

>>137291130
Bunicii mei erau din Baragan . Comunistii i-au adus pe spurcatii de transilvaneni , si au impartit pamanturile noastre la toti jegosii.Mai mult, nativii au fost fortati sa le dea de mancare si sa le faca locuinte banatenilor si transilvanenilor. Acum toate curvele transilvanene apar la televizor ca au dus-o greu in Baragan si cer despagubiri, dupa ce ne-au vandut pamantul la toti strainii.

>>137289016
Video games romanticizing the Soviet Union during WW2 by whitewashing all their travesties. Its also socially acceptable to be a socialist now because the USSR isn't the number one enemy anymore.

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>>137288029
>stalin solved this problem
> what is the holodomor

>>137284569
tfw when communist implicitly denies mercy and basic restrain on violence because of class hatred.
What a putrid ideology

>>137291413
Nah, these problems are mostly solved, conscript army nowadays is less hardcore than actual life.

>>137291585
You have pensions for anti-soviet partisans? Interesting.

>>137289092
Left cant meme

>>137288029
> by solving the kulak problem
"Solving kulak problem" is the main reason of 1920s, stupid nigger

>>137292301
of the famine in 1920s*

>>137292061
No we have (had) pensions for those who fought with communists during WW2.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslav_Partisans
Perhaps Soviets had same for your own partisans?

>>137291849
Whatever you say, Ivan

>>137291669
In Bihor o fost fix invers. Dupa ce ca au mutilat o parte din centrul istoric si au facut blocurile alea care arata ca tot cacatul acuma, au mai adus si multi moldoveni si olteni care habar n-aveau de Oradea si nici nu le pasa. Acuma imi vine sa-i injur pe toti care vin aici si zic de ce demolam "minunatiile comuniste". Sa-mi bag pula in toti simpatizantii comunisti. Mearga in Coreea daca vor "vremurile bune".

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>>137291585
>great-grandfather dies during communism without getting shit after losing all that land
> my granfather got sent to ''special labour'' , at the Canal, where 250.000 people died
> he left a penniles lanklet
> he returned almost obese and rich
>apparently he used to play cards all day with the jailers and sold gasoline to the turkish truck drivers
> he was making a months wage in 2 days, but he spent a lot of it on luxury food and booze, in the middle of an concentration camp

>>137289016
In America it's because certain communists are whitewashed to be made to look like misunderstood heroes like Che Guevara. Actual American commies are usually of a Maoist mindset though. Those waving Soviet flags are usually edgelords although Maoists aren't any better.

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>>137290224
>have russian gf
where are d fotos?

>>137292349
No, I don't think so. We had the entire country fighting, after all.

There were pensions and other allowances
for families who lost a breadwinner, though.

>>137289327
>mass murdering/deporting entire ethnicities
Isn't this what pol wants?
Also you didn't even give proper responses to most of the statements.
>inb4 commie, jew
I am not none of those things

>>137292615
not to say Che Guevara himself is pretty whitewashed

>>137292394
>moldoveni si olteni
Cele mai spurcate rase din Romania, dupa cioroi.

>>137292512
>but he spent a lot of it on luxury food and booze
And this is why your country is poor.

>>137286266
That's definitely an AKM desu

>>137289016
Universities

>>137287521
>end famine
kek, more like

>create a bunch of famines becuz fuck farmers lol
>couple dozen million people die
>food production sort of stabilizes
>get bread lines instead

>>137293030
What's the point of being rich and not eating and drinking well, and fuck high class prostitutes?

>>137285160
Why do you hate farmers ffs? Its like the most soft thing to hate. Like Enya. Youy should hate possitive my friend.

>>137292341
It was a transitory period. Decentralized food production results in famines. Every country in the world now has some form of agricultural control in place to make sure that fields are producing the proper amounts of staple commodities and not holding out like the fucking kulaks. Stalin was ahead of his time.

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>>137293030
You don't understand Balkans, small guy in Balkans was always treated like shit by those in power. Keep in mind we were ruled by Ottomans/local Muslim nobles for so long and they were corrupt and inefficient as fuck. So we take pride when a small guy fucks over the system. It's like semi-anarchy, it's pure hell, I'll probably run away from here.

>>137292860
>Isn't this what pol wants?
That's besides the point, he made a response to a guy implying that communism created some kinda of interethnic harmony which is blatantly untrue.

>>137287521
>>137287748
>>137293290
there can be no famine if there are no people

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>>137293598
>Every country in the world now has some form of agricultural control in place to make sure that fields are producing the proper amounts of staple commodities and not holding out like the fucking kulaks

>That face when I can choose to let it out to pasture because I don't have some dumb gommie telling me what to do

>>137293736
>run away from paradise
pls

>be interpreter for Russian Army
>have side gig breeding horses for army
>Commies going to kill Czar and loyalists
>Hop boat and never come back
>Still never got my family's rubles back

>>137282890
>Spanish civil war
>Great grandpa owns farm
>Die Hard Republican
>Sends his two eldest sons to fight for the republic
>Anarchists try forcing family farm into collective
>Great grandpa outright refuses
>Try to label him a traitor but he's too well known in the community for any accusations to stick
>War rages on
>Collective farms are floundering
>Great gramps farm is doing well
>Always has a bountiful harvest
>Excess surplus gets sent to the republic
>Hires farmhands because he's doing so well
>when money became worthless he paid his employees in meat
>A rare luxury in those days
>Meanwhile the collective is full of parasites they barely make their self imposed quotas which are laughably low
>One day in 1938 the communists come for my great grandpa
>they organize a justice brigade
>they rile up people in the village; anarchists, communists, other leftists and even great gramps own farm workers
>they march towards the farm
>Great grandpa hides his wife and newborn daughter in the basement
>Grandpa hides in the attic
>Great grandpa tries to reason with the unreasonable
>he's tortured for crimes against the collective
>they accuse him of being a fascist
>Gramps baby sister starts crying
>the justice brigade finds great grandma in the basement
>they dismember newborn with scythes as a sign of poetic justice
>torture and rape great grandma to death
>dismember her too
>they finally kill my great grandpa after hours of torture
>grandpa sees it all from a hole in the attic
>but they're not done
>they loot what's not bolted down
>they smash the house up
>tear up the fields
>raze the barn
>sodomize some animals
>shoot others for sport
>Then set fire to the house while my grandpa is still in it
>he takes shelter in a bathtub
>almost suffocates
>flees before the crack of dawn to Barcelona

>>137288241
They're more white than you lol

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Dumping Drawings from the Gulag

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>>137293598
No, faggot, fuck off.

Regular food shortages were USSR's companion for its entire history. Collective farms ("кoлхoзы") and then "agriculture complexes" were ineffective as fuck. By early 80s, productivity of each acre of processed fields was lower than in any European country, even in warm and soil-rich regions as south Ukraine.

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>>137282890
>be shitskin
>go around looting germans
>get sent to labour camp
Your no good nigger-tier grandfather should have done more time

>>137289092
Oh my

Who want's to listen to some t*tar's tales?

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>Grandfather was in the RAF during WWII.
>Was a tail-end gunner.
>Didn't tell me any stories.

Never really pushed the matter after he didn't want to tell me any, guess he just didn't wanted to reminisce the experience.

>Grandfather on father's side in British army
>Stationed in Burma in WWI
>Died before I got to meet him.

Dad's never really talked about him much and I've never really thought to ask, as shameful as it sounds.

Feel like I've missed a trick in this war stories business.

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>>137285431
>3 posts

>>137293598
>Decentralized food production results in famines

What, like in North America and Europe? The two greatest famines in the 20th century took place under Communism.

>the fucking kulaks

... and the saboteurs, the wreckers, the capitalist roaders, the imperialist running dogs, etc. etc. There's always someone else to blame when leftists fuck up, which they invariably do

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>>137293969
That could be straight out of Beserk, heavy shit.

>>137294433
Crimean or Volga's?

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>>137294417
Crimean tatars are basically turks. Without Katharina the great (German BTW) Ukraine and Crimea would turn into a Turkish territory like Balkans. Ukraine has even a city called Ismajil.

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>>137294696
Both are flavours of shit

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>>137294368
>By early 80s, productivity of each acre of processed fields was lower than in any European country

Well that's your own fault for embracing revisionism.

>>137293969
>Gramps tries to contact his brothers
>they are nowhere to be found
>presumed dead
>Remembers seeing how scared the commies were and saw them fleeing months in advance because they knew the war was lost
>Takes the hint and flees again, this time to Argentina
>Left argentina in the 60's after he saw the writing on the wall
>Only returned back to Spain in the late 70's
>Finds that one of his brothers had survived
>tells him the whole story how the village betrayed and murder their family
>Even points out who did what that night
>Brother refuses to believe him and they never speak again
>Gramps comes back to america and always warned me about the dangers of leftism and anarchism
>Did not fully believe him until I saw what antifa did on the inauguration and at the G20
Sorry for doubting you gramps

>>137294917
Before 80s it was the same.

>>137282890
>about 52 confirmed Kraut kills
Tell your grandpa he's the fucking best.
Hoping he raped a few German bitches, he'd have granted them a huge gift

>>137294899
>leftists giving special privileges to criminal scum to run riot, while making ilfe hell for anyone who disagrees with them politically

Just like here in the West today, isn't it?

>>137294899
тaк вce чтo-нибyдь дa и yвидишь

>>137282890
So, your Great Grandfather is a marauder who was justly punished for it. Stay mad, whoreson.

>>137294514
Bolsheviks were Jews. This is hilarious. They did this to bad goyim who didn't understand the natural superiority of Jews.

>>137294899
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLbsLZ1iX68

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsROaSso_RM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9Y2EvrM4R0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXhHMMA8JTw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTMlT7yafg4

>>137294304
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>>137294899

Nice action comics, bro. Is it Marvel or DC?

>>137287521
>Be Communist
>Blatantly lie
>Feel good about it

Nothing to see here, just another ruined waste of a human being.

Remember guys: anybody who is talking about greatness of living USSR either:
1) livied in Moscow or St.Petersburg, where product deficit wasn't such a huge issue
2) had a high-ranked official/military officer among their close relatives.
3) had an opportunity to steal something sellable from production or knew people who could sell contrabanda

Others had miserable lives and the only thing they could get is cirrhosis from alcoholism.

>>137288241
How could that be? Russians are one of the most white nations in Europe along with germans, czechs, dutch people, scandinavians, finns, belorussians, balts and estonians. I'm nordic-looking russian myself.

>>137295520
>commies are good guys because they deported and jailed tatars
iq89 pls

>>137293290

Famines were just as prevalent for all of Russian history before the USSR but the USSR did end them.

>>137295689

Destroying furniture because it was too beautiful and raping everything that moved. The Soviets were Liberia-tier savages.

>>137295704
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsROaSso_RM

https://www.amazon.com/Danzig-Baldaev-Drawings-Damon-Murray/dp/0956356249

inb4
>muh crazy pornographer
Baldevs drawings are well established as source material on the Gulag. Any legitimate historian agrees with his accounts. As you can see the bottom of those pages even have footnotes.

>>137295934
XX century ended them before USSR did.

>>137294514
Wait what?

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This is now life in Russia thread.

>>137295934

This is nonsense, there was even a Russian proverb "no-one starves in Russia" because they had the best farmland in the world. Even the serfs were better-fed than the average Soviet citizen, let alone the ones who were starved to death in their millions under Communism

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>>137295654
Good. Russia deserved to die after they removed their monarchy. This is what the average subhuman Russian looks like now after communism

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We love much factorries in Russia. Much resource for small money to export for our dear Western Lords.

>>137294705
>>137294785
Yeah and I bet you unironically believe the nazis had masturbation machines and oven rollercoasters too.

>>137294506
At least u have something there, all I got was
>WW2
>great-uncle joins the army
>country surrenders before he reaches the front
>army disbands, end up drifting the eastern part of the country
>fug sum bitches
>nearly get killed when the allies start bombing large parts of the country
>war ends
>get visitted 30 years later by one of the bastards you spawned

Even in the biggest war ever nothing really happened in our country just like the other parts of that century

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In Russia we all drink, die and pay with our health for sins of this world. Please suck all the resources from Russia/

>>137296144
>They gave you food, housing and identity.
>They keep you safe from the imperialist advances of the never ending war machine.
>They gave you technology and infrastructure beyond your wildest peasant dreams.

Why you do this to us comrade?

>>137295654
>>137296258
>>137296138
Stalin purged all Jews from party leadership in 1937. Most of the crimes against peoples of Russia and Europe were done after that.
Jewish communism is a meme.

>>137288746
>be my great-granfather
>60 years old patriarch of a big family working the land 24/7
>a lot of work and sweat, but they have everything they need
>regime change
>the poorest faggots in the village join the commies
>those lazy, poor, dumb as fuck bastards come to your house and demand your livestock for the local commune
>you refuse
>get dragged to the street and beat until you are broken and bleeding profusely
>the low IQ commies steal your shit
>you have nothing to take care of your land now
>your family lives 100 times worse now

Freedom or death, communists are the biggest cancer on this planet.

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>>137287521
BTFO by >>137289295
Holy shit, my sides have seen the glory of the coming of our Lord.

>>137296448

I have all those good things under capitalism, but I also have a hell of a lot more freedom too. You're probably gommieposting on a nice computer in a comfy room in climate-controlled comfort somewhere in the States because you think it makes you edgy or interesting

>>137294995
That's absolutely horrid if that's true

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>>137296520

>>137284569
>He criticizes the way the Red Army treated the german population during the offensive
Why? Germans aren't people

>>137294506
My grandfather fought in the Pacific against the Japanese but he never talked about it. I think honestly he didn't want to think about it and was just trying to put it past him. My uncles who fought in Vietnam are pretty much the same way beyond small stories here and there.

>>137286266
>implying any gun should remain a safe queen
A gun is an instrument and a tool, not a piece of art to be hung on the wall.

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>>137282890
>finds
That's a nice euphemism for rape and pillage, I'm glad your great grampa god what was coming to him at least.

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>>137296144
you asked for it

>>137282890
Savages raped my great-grandmothers friend. She couldn't have children because of it. Communist rats.

>>137296981
god that looks like shit
clean your room you autistic faggot

>>137296448
Union of Soviet Socialist Republics was nothing more than a free industrialization of a huge territory in order to feed western world with resources.

Western companies and banks exited shotly before USSR was established. They industrialized this territory for "free" as it belongs to "noone". Then once they were ready they've taken back all the control over factories and resource export.

Have fun living with the thought that 3 generations of russian people lived only to establish country wide export of resources from far territories of Syberia directly to EU,US and other for several rich western people.

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>>137296893
>dude smartphones are why capitalism is great
>stop buying smartphones if you want to afford healthcare you losers

Fucking love those internal contradictions.

>>137296448
> muh technology
When there were personal computers in US, most people didn't have basic phones. For fuck's sake, there wasn't enough clothes at the time.

>>137296493
When redistribution (up to a certain extent) fails to happen on it's own it happens violently. Crying about this is like crying about an earthquake.
Pro-tip: I don't find this good, I'm merely stating the fact.
Successful societies are those who managed to mitigate the problem of inequality as painlessly as possible.

>>137296448
Why don't you join your glorious comrades in Cuba? They all make $25 a month, it's fucking awesome you coward.

>>137296448
Russians suffer from a collective form of battered wife syndrome. They are nostalgic for the soviet system that abused them so.

>>137296493
>>those lazy, poor, dumb as fuck bastards come to your house and demand your livestock for the local commune
My grandfather told me that when the communists took his lands and split them to all the lazy and poor fags, the latter had a huge party in which they didn't celebrated the fact that they have land now, but that my grandfather was as poor as them now.

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>>137282890
>Steal
>Surprised when get sent to jail

>>137287521
>most doctors per capita
everyone on pol knows it was jews
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIC1V3FiVyY

>>137297171
nah, I'm just renting this for next two weeks

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>>137296981
>that fucking plastic tablecloth
Never thought I'd see it again.

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>>137297183
>i want an iphone and healthcare because i deserve it
>communism will surely supply both to me

>>137285431
Did he escape on a train?

Oh, and why do you think we were so quick to slaughter Muslims here?
No, it wasn't about religion or culture, it was because local Muslims were rich(er). It was another example of violent redistribution.
And mark my words: if present-day system in Balkan countries isn't fixed, there will be another violent redistribution.
The mob doesn't care about your arguments or that your IQ is high or that you earned it with hard work. That said, a large part of rich here didn't earn it by (just) working hard, they earned it because they outright stole stuff or evaded law.
Inequality is the biggest threat of society from within, even if it's natural.

>>137297540
this place looks like I've went to 80s, but it costed me like $30 for a month, so meh

>>137282890
At least they were openly anti jewish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPTfZyi0ius

>>137296464
i wonder what would happen if that jewish autonomous oblast would work

>>137297504
oh then fuck it up even more
where are you at right now?

>>137297421
>send poor tatar soldier to kail for pickip up war trophy
>dont jail high ranked offices who steal tonns of shit like furniture, cars and art
lmao what a justice

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>>137297645
Yes because we have the means to do so currently but can't because of capitalism classcuck. Wealth accumulation is a major hindrance.

how old is everyone here that their GREAT grandparents were in the war? my grandparents were, i'm just curious.

>>137297725
$30 a month to rent!? That's ridiculously cheap

>>137297941
I'm 23.

>>137297229
Idiot, there is no need for redistribution. Successful people work for it when there is incentive and communism kills creativity/entrepreneurship, so you are neutering the people who do work and make goods..

Lazy low IQ fucks (like you) will always achieve poorfag status. By dropping land and resources in their lap you are just squandering the resources.

>>137297287
Same here. They don't know how to manage the land or produce anything, all the care for is superficial "victories" like sticking it to the successful people in the village. Jealous and vindictive little fucks.

>>137297719
there will be no
>redistriution
infa 100%
also
>implying robbing muslim occupants and collaborators was something bad
not it wasnt

>>137297941
22. Grandpa was 14 when the war started.

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>>137297919
Is this supposed to be satire?

>>137297813
Chelyabinsk. One of the shittiest cities in Russia I've ever seen, desu

>>137297941
I'm 25 but my grandparents on my dad's side are like 20+ years older than my grandparents on my mom's side. How one grandfather was in WW2 and the other in Vietnam.

>>137297941
im 18 and my great grandparents were in the 1st world war
even got some pics, all of them were in the SS as well

>>137297941
24 in a month

>>137296829
>Be Germany
>Claim you don't want to destroy Europe
>Invade Poland
>Invade Denmark, Norway, Belgium Holland Luxembourg, and Greece
>Invade the USSR
>Declare war on the US
>REEE why is the whole world against us?

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>>137297919
Nigger, even if we were in a Communist Utopia people wouldn't be able to have everything they wanted. Do you even into economics?

BTW, that pic is so fucking stupid I'm saving for use as a satirical joke.

>>137297969
its not when min income is 100$

>>137298220
>Chelyabinsk
holy shit
you're not even in europe right now
where do you come from?

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>>137282890
Deporting treasonous savages was probably the only good thing that stalin did.

>>137288029

really, why are you even here? you're wasting everyone's time with your nonsense

>>137297777
Only digits know

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>>137296493
>be my gf' great-grandfather
>be a child in wealthy family
>a family that wanted to emigrate to USA
>but lost everything to bandits released by bolsheviks
>go to public school during the civil war
>have not enough money to buy trousers
>wear your sister's skirt instead
>...
>100 years after it's a trend among western marxists

>>137298460
>trasonous savages
like ethnic russians from semirechie?
kek

>>137298442
Novosibirsk. Even more "not Europe", apparently, but that city is far, far better in terms of everything except climate.

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>>137298369
>Be the US of A
>Claim to be the leader of the free world
>Invade the Middle East
>Bomb the living shit out of them for decades on end
>REEEE why do they hate us so much?!

>>137298220
Let's say,if I want to take a tour of the russian cities,how safe I would be?Also, how expensive is everything in Russia right now? i saw that your hotels are pretty cheap, how is the transportation?

>>137298157
You managed to misunderstand me despite me explaining you clearly what I meant.
I'm not saying this is good, I'm saying it's inevitable.
Either you mitigate inequality or you get extremism which will do it violently.
It doesn't matter who's ''good'' and ''evil'' in this case.
>>137298184
If you are talking about communism, there was redistribution, but a new class arose that despite being superior wasn't THAT superior compared to pre-communism upper class.
And communism is shit, I never denied that. My point is roots of communism are in inequality.
Western democracies managed to mitigate inequality, that's why they never suffered a communist revolution.

>>137298664
Ethnic Russians there actually brought civilization.

>>137282890
Hey, let me try!

>many Baltic ancestors
>everything going ok. Not great, but not terrible.
>Disgruntled (((outlanders))) start communist movement in 1897, same year they had their zionist congress
>nobody gives a shit
>several years later, Russian and Baltic traitors fall for the propaganda, suddenly people give a shit after a bad war with Japan
>civil war later on, commies chimpout. German volunteers save the Balts from both Poland and commies
>a decade later all ancestors get kicked out because they actually value having rights like freedom of religion, expression, speech-or to keep a fucking house


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Jewish_Labour_Bund_in_Lithuania,_Poland_and_Russia

>>137298732
retard its not /trv
also you will nevercome here, im 100% sure

>>137298429
This was in the 80's though right? Currency has inflated so much

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>>137298207
No it's pointing out the absurdity in the argument that "We have iPhones and without capitalism you wouldn't have it" despite the fact that it was workers who built the iPhones, not capitalism.

>>137298157
>Idiot, there is no need for redistribution.
Well under capitalism you have redistribution. Under capitalism, more and more wealth tends to accumulate into smaller and smaller hands.

> Successful people work for it when there is incentive and communism kills creativity/entrepreneurship
First of all, workers are not compensated fully for their work under capitalism, most of the profit goes into the pockets of the capitalists. Second, there was a study that showed monetary rewards don't actually provide incentives. Actually the inverse, the more monetary reward there was for a task, the poorer the performance. Also to say communism kills creativity is blatantly false as the Soviets won the space race and had one of the best militaries on Earth.

>so you are neutering the people who do work and make goods..
Actually you are rewarding the working class since workers will be better off with a capitalist skimming the worker's profits.

>>137297540
this
wtf didnt see that atleast 15 years

>>137297725
who is owner? 199 y.o grandma?

>>137298695
the city looks nice imo
are you white or just a mongrel?
are your ancestors from there as well?

>>137298797
so why did commies deport and kill them?

>>137298938
not nice but comfy
it doesn't even have proper roads

>>137282890
>Crimean Tatar
Stopped reading. You turk subhumans don't belong to Europe in the first place
>>>/centralasia/

>>137287466
more like this? hot af

>>137298872
average income is around little bit more than 200$
minimal is 100

>>137282890
Kill yourself shitskin.

>>137298732
Very safe, if you don't visit small towns or shitty suburbans.

Because of rouble course exchange, everything would be rather cheap. Transportation - eh, that depends, some train courses are very expensive, but all in all, it's pretty average.

>>137299056
Russia is huge and it's climate is fucked up in some places, it's not easy to have top-notch infrastructure.

>>137299144
>central asia
>flag related
you'd know, wouldn't you

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>great-grandfather gets forcebully conscripted in the romanian army when he was 20
>already fighting against the germans
>sent to Tatra mountains
>get captured
>Red Shitskin ARmy coming to liberate the pow camp
>based german guards tell them they can go if they wish
>grandpa decides to tail and walk all the way home
>the rest of the boys from the village stay
>he is the only one to return alive from the war
fuck the russian army, fuck russia and fuck russians, a bunch of stinking rapists

>great-granduncle fights against soviets
>captured
>released
>returns on foot all the way from fucking Siberia
we're a family of survivors

>be me
>proud American
>grandfather was a squad leader for the 7th army
>fought the Italians in Africa and Sicily
>Fought in southern France sometime after the initial d-day attack
>marched to Belgium and fought in the battle of the bulge, killed an SS officer and took his dagger. Killed another Nazi fag and took his Belgian boot gun.
>marched into Germany and became an MP who helped with Some early trials for the nazi crimes against humanity.
>comes home a hero
>finds gf has been knocked up by some dickhead
>he cucks his cuck and raises the kid as his own
>becomes police officer and later mayor of a town outside St. Louis

He fucking hates nazis to this day. Also hates niggers and commies. He doesn't like my generation much and has told me stuff about how shit the red scare was after the war. Commies today would get their asses handed to them by men like my grandfather. He's 93 now and still fucks his new wife (other two passed away) I look up to that man like no other.

>>137294995
Yeah, Spain. That's the way it was. My grandpa saw people burning churches and executing priests on the spot. But now you are only allowed to study or talk about the crimes of the right.

Many people that were doing well were full on republicans. Until commies.

>>137299193
yeah i know
but when you actually zoom in the city most of it looks like a gypsy town
its kinda sad

>>137299144
european state like russian empire didnt have any troubles integrating them and their nobility, asiatic commie retards did for some reason

>>137289092

you have a mental disorder.

where are you in the world, btw? some flyover state in middle america?

>>137299157
Well, not THAT bad. Average is about $400-$500, I can't imagine how can you get something less than that unless you're some very low-tier medic or official or janitor.

>>137298726
>Implying america claims to care about the middle east
>Implying most of /pol/ doesn't already condemn the US

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>>137298913
>Under capitalism, more and more wealth tends to accumulate into smaller and smaller hands.
And in Communism this happens instantaneously.

>. Second, there was a study that showed monetary rewards don't actually provide incentives
Could you sound any more ACKSHYUALLY than this?

>>137298913
>Actually you are rewarding
>Actually
LOL!

>>137297725
not judging, i live in a fucking college dormitory because i'm technically still a student and it allows me to save more

>>137296696
Coming from the hellspawn Amerifat.

>>137298938
Half Russian, half Tatar. Mother is from Ufa, father is from Vladivostok.

>>137282890
>Be me
>Crimean Tatar in USA

Stopped reading right there. Kys T*t*r scum

>>137299193
>climate is the reason of shitty infrastructure
not its not

>>137299529
ummm.... try again

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>>137282890
>The Soviet Union was complete shit.


>get mad on own country.
>lets turn it to shit instead of fixing it.
>happy life in paranoide murica nau.
>neggers are coming for your GF

ohhh fucking irony..

>>137298869
>also you will nevercome here, im 100% sure
Why? I've already been to Kiev once, and everything was fine.I want to visit Moscow and St. Peterburg in the next years, and probably the Golden Ring, taking into account how cheap is almost everything in your country right now.

>>137298924
Actually now, it was a ~30 y.o. guy driving Octavia

>>137291840
I don't understand how anyone can look at communism and not want to turn to literally any other ideology

>>137298913
>despite the fact that it was workers who built the iPhones, not capitalism.
The "workers" assembled the damn thing, they didn't create it.

Nobody gives a shit about the bricklayers for Hadrian's wall because they were probable low IQ simpletons whose highest accomplishment in life was to have a job laying stones so they could buy shit.

>>137299606
thats cool, what do they think of communism?
also, how bad is air pollution over there, i've seen some pics and it looks like most cars are black from the filth

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>>137299281
>fuck the russian army, fuck russia and fuck russians, a bunch of stinking rapists

>Exist only because the Russians freed you from the Turks
>invade USSR with Nazis
>REE RUSSIANS KILLED US REEE


butthurt belt indeed

>>137283723
is it true that a lot of soldiers who were on the offensive in 1945 were sent to gulag because Stalin was afraid that soldiers could've told everyone how life was much better in destroyed nazi germany and europe in general compared to USSR?

>>137288096
Ukrainian = mudblood with circassian, georgian, tatar and armenian shit
They don't belong to Europe either just like their mongrel neogbours in Romania and Balkans
>>137299435
>Russian Empire
>European state
Adopt some muhnority like Peter I or dicksuck Jewmongrel converts to Christianity like Ekatherine II

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>>137298756
>Either you mitigate inequality

Ok anon, I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you are not trolling (I saw your age and I guess someone filled your head with this nonsense) and actually take the time to explain something vital to you.

Please read the next few sentences carefully. Caps for importance:

INEQUALITY IS NORMAL AND THERE WILL ALWAYS BE INEQUALITY, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE DIFFERENT. There will always be people who are smarter and more capable, they will always earn more and do better than the stupid/lazy people.

You can't equalize that, you can't change it and for crying out loud you cannot mitigate it. This is why communism has always failed and it always will. People are inherently unequal and that is NORMAL.

>>137298913
chink worker built the iphone from scratch ! thanks chinks

Communist retards never fail to amaze me

>>137299592
> fucking college dormitory
This sucks. Have been living in one for 2 years, FOUR people in one 5x6 metres room. Back then it felt like hell, now I even kinda miss these times.

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>>137291849
t.russian dicksucker

>>137289092
>"We need your help because we have a famine"
>We will take your farms to stop the famine"
M8 thats not how you ask for help you commie retard

>>137299975
>croatia doesn't belong in europe
why though?
all of our genes are european and we did more for europe than finland or any scandinavian country

>>137292860
Man's a cunt mate he doesn't deserve a response when he's full of shit fuck off commie

>>137293969
>>137294995
Jesus Christ. I'm glad those bastards failed to take Spain. When your Grandad came back to town, were the perpetrators still living there? What did they do when they saw him?

>>137300003
>you cannot mitigate it.
It is possible in language. Just like hedging mitigates. Ultimately it is all about how we perceive things.

>>137282890
why is that woman on that work site with proper safety gear?

>>137299944
This is the same man that got envious of his own general for being beloved and seen as a hero more than him. I wouldn't put anything past petty Stalin.

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>>137299892
> what do they think of communism?
Mother loves it, father is somewhat skeptical, but says there were many good things.

> how bad is air pollution over there
Pretty good, but a couple times a year some factory fucks something up and pollutes everything around. Some city districts suffer from this much more often, but I don't live in one of those.

>>137294514
>bolsheviks trying to find jewish conspiracy
>were they trying to find themselves?

>>137299596
Excuse you faggot. If we hadn't stepped in when we did, you faggots would have been bombed until hitler got bored and invaded bongistan. You literally had almost no resources to fight the nazis. You pussies even left Denmark because you were outmatched.

>>137284569
I'm torn, germans are shit

But communists are cancer and not even people

I'll side with granpa I guess