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What's /pol/s opinion on monarchs?
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A benevolent leader is a good leader but monarchism can backfire like with Nicholas the II because he wasn't probably taunt how to rule a country.
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>>137275838
*taught
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>>137275838
But Nicholas 2 was said to be the most educated man in Europe.
He just wanted to continue his autocracy dream and thought he could do that by crushing the peasants.
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>>137275301
Needs some tweaks. Less incest, monarch can name any successor he wishes, but they must be approved by a super majority of tax paying citizens only. Preferably men only but we're already in wishful thinking territory here, let's not go full lala land.
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>>137275838
Nicolaas was idiot. He started WW1 by Ataccking AH. By trying to defend turk Serbs
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>>137275301
constitutional monarchy is the best system there is, but a problem nowdays it that they do fuck all
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>>137276805
Classically trained yes but his father died before he could learn how politics really works.
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>>137275838
He got BTFO by a bunch of commie jews be honest.
>I'd support monarchy but the old monarchs are dead or dying, it's completely useless now, it was used as a way to set example to the people now it's full of degenerate heavens.
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>>137275301
Best form of government.
There's a reason (((they))) had to get rid of or shackle them all.
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>>137275301
Tsar Nicholas did not deserve it
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>>137275301
Monarchism best ism
Democracy: the best lair gets in power and divides his own people while doing it

So we need a strong leader, but how do we not fall into civil war every time the man dies (and 9/10 times it will be a man)?
How about someone trained from birth to rule the country that built him?

Throw in a parliament or something to keep the more stupid/rebellious people from breaking shit and were all good.
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>>137277462
Uhh...No. Look up the process of the declaration of wars in WW1.
AH declared war on Serbia, the day after Germany declared war simultaneously on France and Russia, invaded Belgium to which the UK also declared war.
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>>137278706
>>137277462
He was also idiot who lost war against Japan and didn't care and who let bolsheviks rise up because he was incompetent. If only anyone else was instead of him it would have been good

>>137279242
Thats some bad history man. Serbia shot archduke, in which AH sent ultimatum to Serbia which it declined so AH declared war rightfully in which Russia declared war to AH in which Germany went in to protect their ally and France went in, also mad from losing Franco prussian war.
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>>137275301
hang them all
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>>137279595
except the ultimatum was COMPLETELY fucking unreasonable
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>>137280748
i.e. there was nothing rightful about austria declaring war
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Tsar Nicholas II and his family are saints, stop insulting them.
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>>137278623

Hardly. We still have a monarch, but what has she done for our benefit? She hasn't said one word about the death of the British people. The real difference between past and present lies in the question of universal suffrage. It was when women got the vote particularly that everything really began to decline. The monarch has been effectively without power in this country since the Revolution of 1688.
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>>137275838
The Russian parliament was too young an institution and the blame is on them. Look how they ruled the next six months and lost everything to the Bolsheviks.
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>>137275301
Cute!!
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>>137279194

Monarchy versus democracy is a false dichotomy which appears to be widespread in Dark Enlightenment circles. We have a "monarchy" in Britain now, but our disastrous government, which holds all the real power, is elected by universal suffrage (everybody having the vote). Conversely, Ancient Athens was a "democracy," but, there, only property-owning male Athenian citizens could vote. According to the logic of "monarchy is better than democracy," modern Britain is governed by a superior system to that which gave rise to one of the greatest peoples the world has ever seen.

"Democracy" is a word which ought to be revised when people are using it to refer both to a system in which only property-owning males had the vote (which used to be the case in Britain also), and that in which even sixteen-year-old women can vote.
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>>137275301
better than (((democracies))) subservient to (((Banking Cartels and Media conglomerates))).

Romanovs. Habsburgs, Hohenzollerns, were true Europeans fighting against (((bankers))) and (((bolsheviks)))
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>>137282877
>We have a "monarchy" in Britain now
That's not a monarchy any more than Iran is democracy.
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>>137279242
You're objectively wrong.
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>>137275838
Nicholas the II was the only good monarch. Problem is with monarchism you could get shitty racist leaders.
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>>137283121
Yes the monarchies today aren't subservient to (((banking cartels and media congolmerates))) at all

lol
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>>137275301
Humans need leaders and figureheads to inspire them, but a monarch also needs learned men to make sure he's serving the nation.
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>>137284867
only the ones that didn't oppose (((their ))) interests, such as the British royal house.
Not all Royal Houses were subservient cucks as the English.
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The best monarchist system was implemented on the Empire of Brazil.
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At least they are better than democracies.
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>>137282048
our queen has no power here m8
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> better than democracies

but the most democratic countries today are monarchies?
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>>137286208
but they have no power
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>>137286141
She does. Although using it would be undemocratic.

The Queen has entire control of our military, she can literally dissolve parliament and therefore claim absolute power, she has to approve laws, and can remove a PM at anytime.
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>/pol/ wants to depose this
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>>137275301
Monarchism was necessary when the amount of food and resources that a society could generate was so low that it made sense to pick leaders from a small pool that could receive optimal education and nutrition.

It was, however, hopelessly BTFO with the advent of nationalism.
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>ruskies wanted this guy dead
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That's the issue. As anon 137285929 said:
> the best monarchist system was implemented on the empire of Brazil
The brazilian system had a parliament + power and control of the monarch over the parliament
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>>137286208
Constitutional monarchies vs absolute monarchies
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>>137286612
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I personally prefer the constitutional kind.
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>>137286762
>>137286612

> tfw you will never do dank pranks with your aristocrat bros
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I kek'd
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>>137289177
lel yes let's run our state like a grocery store guys
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