An in-depth examination of the phrase "White Pride"

If you think that Bach, Mozart, Debussy, Rachmaninoff, Dvorak or any of the masterful musicians of eras long ago never heard oriental music, whether it be Arabic or Asian, and compared it to their own works and to the works of other Europeans around them in their respective eras, then you're being willfully ignorant.

My point is that "White Pride" has always been historically as a classification, the argument that "oh well they were just proud of their own nationality other than their ethnogroup as a whole" is incorrect in my opinion.
After the Renaissance a certain cultural free market boomed in Europe and cultures started trading everything from musical techniques to wine making and beer brewing methods. Obviously free market is a very loosely used word here considering wars still occurred and other atrocities happened but it's ridiculous in my opinion to imply that the reason why European music and arts of that era aren't the Gold Standard we use today for quality for any other reason than that. All of that was made possible because Europeans understood their own cultural similarities and functioned because there was something to be mutually gained. If an oriental of any sort came up to Bach and said "Hey, I'm willing to trade musical methodology with you", I hardly believe the trade would actually occur since both parties are not on an even playing field. While on the other hand if Bach and Vivaldi were to engage in trade, it would be favorable for both parties, both of them being Baroque composers but one of them being Italian and the other German.

I understand the argument that national pride is better than racial pride, but I don't think that invalidates the right to use racial pride considering it's definitely logically sound.

I can extrapolate my theory a bit further or examine different viewpoints if necessary but I want to see if you guys have anything specifically you disagree with so far because this is the foundation of my argument currently.

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>>137264362
>tl;dr Why is the phrase "White Pride" coined as bad by using lower echelon groups to validate it while ignoring higher echelon groups that used that phrase as well?
No obvious ((())) answers please.

I think it is an irrelevant phrase. What does it mean? European? Aryan? Caucasian? Europeans are as different from each other as their languages. Aryan? Isn't that an ancient civilisation responsible for the Vedic texts? How can a white person identify as that? Maybe with that, appreciate that, but BE that? Caucasian? How many have actually been to the Caucasus mountains to claim that as a cultural heritage? So, it must be based on something other than identity by skin color. And hating other skin colors. It's beyond stupid. Our enemies are political who want to suppress our criticism of them.

>>137265462
I think that "White Pride" is 100% interchangeable with "European Pride", or the achievements of people of European descent in the fields of the Arts.
I mentioned that I understand that national pride is definitely a more logical way to classify yourself as part of a group but what I'm trying to get at is that you can definitely have European Pride.

My example was that musicians of the classical era would 100% be able to identify structural patterns in their music and would have no issue touting their collective of music as better than oriental/foreign styles.
Skin color is what they want to break it down under, while that's not true. Using lower echelon groups like the KKK/Neo Nazis where they might just say "i like white skin better hurr durr it dont look like poop" is irrelevant because to me and to everyone else pride in a nation/race is the pride of the culture, traditions, heritage, history, technological achievements and so on.

I'm trying to validate an individuals pride in the cultural norms/traditions/achievements seen in his group, only extrapolated at a larger level.

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>>137264199
i get what you're saying bulgaranon; unfortunately in burgerland white nationalists care more about niggerball than the humanities and sciences

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>>137265462
It means white skin faggot. I would love to keep each white race separate but it will never happen. I can feel the potato from my Irish blood.

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I'm just running the theory through here to see if anyone finds any logical holes or inconsistencies before I apply it in real life.

>>137264199
>Hello /pol/

sage?

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>>137267362
To me, I love all people and I accept that so do white women. My problem is the extent at which we take immigrants.
My problem is that we are taught to hate whites
My problem is Jews are the elite but whites are thought to be the elite
My problem is white america is carrying much of brown america on it's shoulders
My problem is brown people dont come for the way whites dance, rather the way they get taxed