DMG CONTROL alt right

>>137233668
We need to take a nuanced approach. I wanted to hear the fucking speeches. That's fucking it. Disavow Fields and that will appease them. Nobody had to die and we didn't want that.

People are MORE than willing to chat to Alt-Right as long as we aren't fucking LARPING.

We need to shut the larpers the fuck up.

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>>137233668

Don't worry, the main counter-signal for Charlottesville is that the police broke the law and instead of separating the crowds started dispersing them and causing chaos as they forced the crowds into clashes. If the police just did their jobs and focused on keeping people separated then none of this would have happened.

What will/has happened:
>MSM dominates narrative initially
>forces shit tier memes about ebil navis randomly attacking people, ignore all the permit stuff.
>Move back to Russia stuff
>Everyone forgets.
>Alt-right moves in and rewrites the history book to reflect the truth with memes and alt-light friendly shills start red pilling normies.
>Everyone remembers.

Everytime. Times like these that separate the newfags from the oldfags.

>>137233668
>positive outcome from the Charlottesville rally.
>We need to find a way to spin a Neo-Nazi committing vehicular homicide into something that normal people will support.
Good luck buckaroo.

>>137234287
>If the police just did their jobs
They did.
They were ordered to disperse the gathering by their superiors.
Trying to blame police forces for the events that went on outside of their control is not going to help your narrative.

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Just

Oy Vey.

Legacy media is winning bigly, and we can't get back at them.
Information wars are not going good.
Disaster.

>>137234241
Disavowing Fields is probably the best we can do. If we get idiots calling him a hero straight out it'll just turn normies away from the movement.
larpers seem to be what caused some of the issue going on. We need to quit Nazi and KKK symbolism. It's outdated and it's sure as hell not going to be able to be re-branded in a positive light.

>>137234287
I'm glad on your outlook dude. You're probably right with that timeline. Can't say I'm not new to the movement - only been here a few months. I just don't want to see the hard work of brothers and sisters dispersed because of one cluster fuck.

>>137234414
Damage control is better than watching everything slip away.

>>137234752
Anglin (of all people) actually said we need to move on from "Yesteryears displays of WN" which is right on the money. The edgy kids with Hitler as their Twitter profile need to get over themselves.

>>137234527

The job of the police is to enforce the law not to act as a private army for politicians. Nice (((try))).

>>137234867
Damage control can't manifest in larping and yelling "false flag" though. If we are seen as a group that can't see the wrong in a pointlessly killed WHITE woman, then we lose all credibility.

>>137235030

Is there a way to spread this though? And relatively fast? Our biggest setback will be people not wanting to give away the Nazi/KKK symbolism.

>>137235318

I agree. Screaming 'false flag' RN is stupid and no one actually believes it. It's a reach. We're better off having people commemorate her death, acting apologetic just for the PR

>>137234752

Go onto Breitbart and see how many comments the article on Charlottesville has. Look at what most of the comments are saying.

http://www.breitbart.com/live/live-wire-charlottesville-protest-turns-violent-as-state-of-emergency-declared/

>tfw I have never seen an article on anywhere that has this many comments - ever.

This is the beginning of a new era

>>137235361
If you asked R. Spencer he'd probably tell you that the Alt Right was an attempt to get away from it. It's by FAR our biggest Achilles Heel. Honestly, start a Twitter, find the larpers, and have a dad-to-son chat about why they should wise up.

Vaporwave-meets-fashy imagery is going to ruin us.

>>137233668
>Drive into Crowd
>It will be alright if you post RIP on facejew
Lel
>Lets tell them to invade their families to our nazi safe space BBQ
Good luck with that now that you are employing IS sandnigger methods

>>137235302
You are an idiot.
I am trying to show you that attacking in this circumstance is not a tenable position.
But go ahead, make your movement even more contestable by attacking the police.

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(((>>137233668)))
Trying to get pol and the altright to feel bad over some commie whale's death (or to even feign caring)... Go back to t_d and go fuck yourself (((OP))).

>>137235361

The Alt-Right is an attempt to rebrand WN. Using ironic memes and terms that don't mean anything to our enemies but normies find funny and actually lead people to develop a race-based political consciousness is what it is all about. If you are arguing that we should always be pragmatic and open minded and we should bully larpers into fucking off then nobody in the modern movement really disagrees with you.

>>137233668
Disavow and ostracize all the alt-right e-celebs involved in this disaster (except Pax). Disavow all fascist/nazi/1488/neopagan/ancap edgelord larpers. Build a populist movement with realistic, incremental overt goals. Keep the long-term goals covert, and don't ever reveal your power level. Talking openly about an ethnostate only leads to failure, so disavow anyone who reveals his power level. Leftists will recognize dog whistles and know we're crypto, but normies won't listen to them. Examine and copy the successful tactics of cultural marxists. Liberal morality is deeply embedded in modern society, and it's going to take a long time to change that. Don't get trapped in an echo chamber where you can no longer relate to normies. That's what led to Charlottesville.

>>137233668
we don't need any damage control.

notice that the cuckservatives all piled on the alt-right before they even knew all the details. and now they're shilling like crazy to try to divide them over Nazi LARPing.

Yesterday was a win for /pol/ and a great big fun happening.

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>>137233668
A federally protected legal assembly was declared unlawful by a state before it had begun, and the national guard were deployed in a state of emergency to shut it down.

The first amendment has been broken, freedom of speech has been violated in the United States. That is all the ammunition the right needs.

>>137235928
This.

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>>137233668
I've been hearing talk about talking to young white men to "deradicalize" them like skepticsTM like to say about muslims and islam.

The benefit though is that they might finally be open to talking to us which lets us redpill them.

>>137233668
It makes good propaganda if that's a positive https://youtu.be/MeBsTVPxyE4

>>137236071
>Somebody hurt my feefees
>Nazi larper drives into crowd
Guess which matters of the two

>>137236200
I would laugh my ass off if we "radicalized" the people trying to "deradicalize" us.

>>137236340
that is how I got here

>>137233668
I asked you last time but you didn't answer. Where is this pic?

>>137235850

I am not too sure what you think I am doing and what you think exactly is the ideal thing to be doing but pointing out that the police behaved unlawfully isn't attacking anyone it is telling the truth. If you do actually believe that the police are our friends though you are in fact an irredeemable retard, the police(especially FBI) have always pulled dirty tricks against good goys. I am sure individual officers are fine but as an institution, they are loyal to the zog.

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>>137233668
technically, much of the left's argumentation for islamic radicalisation holds true for """nationalistic radicalisation"""
i.e. systematic discrimination and antagonization of whites will produce extremism within that group
shift the blame of "white radicals" onto media and the left due to their unfair representation of the whites (use the anti white articles from e.g. h*ffington post, s*lon, and b*zzfeed as examples)

>>137233668
It has been a literal day. We have no idea how the average person feels let alone the full info of what went on. Give it a few days for more videos to be put up and for the msm and left to calm it's tits so we can understand the situation in full.

>>137233668
We really need to kill somebody inoccent and claims it was because he is a white supremacist. It's the only way.

>>137236665
Go to twitter, type in Charlottesville and click "latest." It gives a pretty decent example of what at least twitter thinks.

Not entirely representative of the whole but still.

>>137236501
Dude, if you can't keep context over a short thread length then go find help for your ADD.
The thread is about crafting a narrative as damage control against the MSM, my response as such pointed out that blaming the Police, whom the Right has been courting heavily since the election, is not only going to dissuade leftists but those on the right as well from listening to you.

>Police are bad.
If the police hadn't been there the rally would have been a bloodbath. They quite literally stopped a counter-protest that numbered perhaps 5 fold the rally from kicking their shit in.
Police are good people, I know several, they have a really tough job where no matter what they do, some cunt is going to call them jackbooted thugs.

Sort yourself the fuck out your dumbass.

>>137236804
Of course the far left is going to be in a frenzy at first which is exactly why we must wait and see. The average person doesn't give a shit about this stuff and we most likely won't know hot it affects wn untill the dust settles

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>>137236639
further, i'd suggest to use the same rhetoric as well
a bad apple in a bunch
violent and vocal minority
not all right-wing people
etc

this is hardly the end of [white] nationalism, its only going to grow
the "extremism" within the nationalistic movement (and by extension the movement itself) is a direct effect of continuous oppression of white people
never apologize

>>137237142
Thats retarded. The average person dosn`t give a shit about the news, all they will hear is that someone drove into a leftist crowd after an alt-right rally. They won`t notice anything happening a few days from now.

>>137233668
Get back to your PR cuckshed you kekistani faggot. No further action is needed in regards to Charlottesville

>>137236200
The right is based on realism and accepting facts that are denied by the mainstream. Given that liberalism is a religion, deradicalization would have to be an immersive social experience similar to religious conversion or cult programming. Argument and logic would have to be excluded from the process.

It doesn't matter if the police told us to 'fuck off' the average normie doesn't see it the same way we do. I'm saying we need to appear at least remorseful for death of a white person - a white person is the least we can keep in mind considering our movement is for whites. If we go around murdering our own we're no better than black on black crime.

Also - fascists were not invited to BBQ idea - it's simply a peaceful gathering of nationalists and patriots with common believes to show them what a white ethno state and modern family could look like.

As for the pic, not sure man. Had it on my phone for ages.

>>137235925
And this is precisely why the alt-right is doomed to failure

Check Ann Coulter's twitter, she's doing something that strikes a point.

>>137237568
>YOU AREN`T INVITED
>WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING
>PLS STOP
>REEEEE
Yeah, there will be no trouble with that

>>137236902

>They quite literally stopped a counter-protest that numbered perhaps 5 fold the rally from kicking their shit in.

No they didn't, the priority of the police was to disperse people attending the rally. It was not to stop violence and keep the crowds separate. If you actually followed events yesterday you would have seen people on our side complaining that the police were directing them INTO the commies.

Also, I qualified very obviously that I am talking about the institution and not individual officers. Perhaps you should be the one taking the ADD pills (((friend))).

>>137236665
Because the average person is inherently pro-nazi, right?
It makes neonazis look like even bigger pieces of shit, which is what the actual goal of the plant that Spencer is.

>>137237728
Not gonna lie... Those tweets are pretty spicy.

>>137236639
>systematic discrimination and antagonization of whites will produce extremism
This is true, but it clashes with the liberal narrative of systemic white male supremacy oppressing everyone. Nobody will even entertain this notion unless they don't fully accept the narrative. The standard response to this argument is mockery, e.g., poor oppressed white males, white tears, white fragility. It's hard to know how normies respond. Soros can poll and focus group all his messaging.

>>137237829

Would you walk over to a pre organised BBQ and just sit down and chat ???? Didn't think so.

Who were the two people who died who weren't the fat women hit by the car? Media reports say 3 people died.

>>137238322
A fucking helicopter crashed on the same day and the two cops aboard died.

They're conflating it with the car collision to make it seem worse.

>>137233668
Kick the fucking stormfags out and the movement will be legit

>>137238198
i guess, kind of forgot that normies cant make up their own opinions nor think for themselves
the nationalist movement cannot be allowed to stop though, that would make every fucking (((progressive))) value even more radical and would result in even more violence in the end
no apologies, more rallies, more videos of antifag violence

>>137238566
This.

Larpers as well.

>>137233668

Shill harder.

Cannot wait until Wednesday when the obvious gaslighting dies down.

>>137237568
When a dindu chimps out and is killed by the police, the best response is to say "Let's wait for all the facts to come out. Don't prejudge the outcome." You don't want to say anything nice about a likely criminal nigger or imply the cops did anything wrong by putting him down. That's the most analogous situation here. This isn't Dylann Roof.

>>137238653

Tfw not even shilling.

>>137235925

This.

No-one cares about dead communist obese chick.

These people want you dead, the only reason they have been willing to tolerate your existence to this point is they assumed their victory was inevitable.

Harden your heart and put on your big boy pants.

>>137238959

Then you need half a cup of concrete cobber.

>>137239124

For what reason? Giving two shits about keeping this movement from going down the drain?

>>137238648
I remember some anon here from Generation Identitaire here talking that they want to convey an image that everyone is a "normal" person and they dont let neo nazis and shit enter their ranks because it will make them look bad and normies will never take them seriously,the alt right has to do something like that...not going around with torches larping as nazis and getting everyone mad at you

>>137233668
>What do you think, /pol ?
Just wait and see. What is going to come from this is that politicians will start condemning the violence and praising diversity and multiculturalism. Conservatives that call out to "unite the nation" will do exactly that, they will unite under the banner of "multiculturalism", "diversity", and "anti-racism". But political unity is impossible. Right now the media is drawing the line of conflict between our ideas, and the radical left, and as this single event will slowly fade out of peoples memories, that debate will continue.

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>>137233668
>agreed
TSK TSK, NO D&C KIKES, NEW BREAD
>>137228426 → → →
>>137228426 → → →
>>137228426 → → →
>>137228426 → → →

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>>137233668
>We need to create a positive outcome from the Charlottesville rally.

>>137237989
>I sperged out so now I have to justify my sperging by calling him a jew and ignoring that the police DID in fact do what they could to keep the crowds separate while allowing them movement.
Seriously kill yourself my man.

>>137239027
And this is precisely why the alt-right is doomed to failure.

>bring your kids so they can get maced and hit by rocks
Sure it would turn the public against antifa but I don't know anyone willing to risk their children to achieve that.

>>137240312

Fair enough, children shouldn't be hurt. If they're actually retarded enough to attack children though, I would be surprised.

>>137233668
Or just meme common excuses used by prominent lefties over the past year so they have no recourse.

>>137239288
>not going around with torches larping as nazis and getting everyone mad at you
Problem is the e-celebs leading the alt-right have given lip service to that principle, but then they went and did it anyway. It's such irrational behavior that they must be either (((compromised))), emotionally unbalanced, completely out of touch, or just dumb.

>>137236338
>the law
>my feefees
I thought Germans were autistic enough to put the law over anything else. Just another disappointment from your shitty country.

>>137237406
This is why the redpill is essentially irrevocable once taken. It can only be consciously rejected by cowards afraid of the social consequences of truth.

>>137235592
Holy shit those comments are coming in faster than you can read them.

>>137233668
When will you dumbfucks ever understand that no matter what we do, we will ALWAYS be portrayed as evil by (((those in power)))? Do not cuck for these kikes. Do not cuck for the libshits. Do not cuck for the nonwhites. Do not fall into their shitty little games. If you are a white nationalist, you must understand that no action we take will ever "suck their dicks" enough. They will ALWAYS hate you. They will ALWAYS condemn you. No matter what. There is no "damage control" that needs to be done here. Support the showing of force, and do not capitulate. They will never be satisfied by your groveling. They will never be satisfied with your cucking. They will only attack and attack until we are gone. Never apologize. Never capitulate. They will merely capitalize on any sign of weakness we show them. Not one step back. Not one, single fucking step back.

>>137240660
THis is what they have to do right now,wheter they are sincere or not:
>condemn the car rundown
>kick the stormfags out
>play with the media narrative,ask why all white people are now guilty of this when to the contrary when muslims and blacks do shit they say "not all of them"

>>137233668
We should call on our Jewish alt-right and republican brothers to hold off on the blood-sport since it's making us look bad, when previously the left was killing their own image with their own pointless violence.

>>137236902
You don't understand, lad.
The police dispersed the crowd, spreading the confrontation points throughout the entire city. They pushed Unite the Right through the ranks of the communists, who harangued and harassed our guy all the way. It was literally the most retarded decision they could have made: rather than keeping the rally in a single monitored and protected location, they turned the entire city into a battleground. The fact that only two people died is a miracle.

>>137233668
You invite the SJWs to the park for a BBQ then I'll run them all over.

It's brilliant Anon, absolutely brilliant.

>>137233668
No matter what the Right does or doesn't do, we will still be labeled racist bigots. If we keep letting the extreme Left and Antifa do whatever the fuck they want including violence, just to show they are the bad guys, we are still somehow labeled as the bad guys and we're not doing anything about it. I don't want violence but the assholes at the top need to be dealt with.

>>137240998
This is how you win the battle and lose the war.

>>137235526
Fucking why? It won't make a fuck's worth of difference? They're merely going to make us out to be the same villain they always have. Cucking NEVER works.

>>137239027

Alot of people fucking care about a dead chick, specifically the people that we need to be working to win over. The average person isn't some try hard edgy faggot, they see a dead girl and it turns them away immediately. Keeping up this idea that normies are just going to be inherently sympathetic to a swastika waving nazi or a hooded kkk member is fucking idiotic, and is going to fuck the Right, no matter what "faction" you are.

>>137240998
This is correct.

Leftists have never been human, never been happy with anything but total control, never been "tolerant". They dangle this in front of you like a carrot, but will keep moving the carrot until you either condemn cisnormativity or you get the stick. Giving them anything at all is a mistake.

The protesters carried placards with "MAKE RACISTS AFRAID AGAIN" and chanted "WHOSE STREETS? OUR STREETS".

They will not be your friend, no matter what you do.

Better plan: support more deaths, preferably of leading leftists. At least these were protesters.

It WAS a fucking peaceful rally. Why the fuck is anyone saying otherwise?? You're falling for the MSM narrative. /ourguys/ were evicted for NO REASON and then pushed into the area where the antifa were, who then proceeded to instigate violence. All the while, the police did NOTHING and it was all used as an excuse by (((them))) to demonize the right even further. You wanna spin this situation positively? Get the truth of what really happened out!

>>137233668
>We need to create a positive outcome from the Charlottesville rally.
there already was 1

>>137241418
We are the farthest right perspective in political discourse today. If we are playing the dialectical game, we cannot compromise. Explaining the actions we take is the job of the more moderate members of the right. We must keep our positions stable and constant, exerting a constant pressure on society to reconcile their normie-tier thesis with our antithesis. If we are the ones who end up compromising, then the synthesis will still be within the current normie Overton Window. If we do not compromise, then they will be the ones to compromise.

>>137241418
Sucking kike, media, and libshit dick is how you lose the war. Sucking cock has never worked before, and will never work so long as those who run our media still run our media. Unless you propose cleaning out the MSM with shotguns, then you may as well at least attempt to hold onto a shred of your testicles, but not getting on your knees and offering to lick the underside of kike taint.

>>137235318
In our defense, she was too fat to be considered white. Plus she was a lib.

I don't mean to come off cruel, loss of human life is sad, but would you really want to let her into the gates of your ethnostate?

>>137241809
*by not getting on your knees

Too late faggots, they will never let you protest outside of a tiny closed out police circled area again...remember you took the kike bait.

>>137241628
>support more deaths
You're a fucking retard. The best thing to do is say "I don't know who the fuck that dumbass was. We're not one mind." This is exactly how BLM handled the Dallas shooter. You don't have to capitulate but you also should not accept their premise that you are a racist and that you had anything to do with running people over in a car.

>>137242091
Too late faggot its already happening if you show up you will be put in the ground.

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>Right-wingers acting like niggers
>So fucking priceless

>>137242205
Reported :^)

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right wing is doing best it has for 50 years people openly protesting against jewish nigogification and now posts are being spammed
>hey guys lets change tack and head for calmer waters

oy vey indeed

>>137233668
>murder people with different opinions to you
>w-we need a positive outcome guys

>>137241802
>>137241809
Doubling down on GAS JOOZ won't help. His really isn't hard. All you have to say is, "it wasn't me. I dindu nuffin." Fuck them. They'll keep calling us racist like always. I didn't kill anyone. I wouldn't kill anyone. So they can shove it up their ass if they call me a murderer. I'm not going to pop back and say b-but Muslims. I reject their premise. I'm peaceful but I'm standing against white hate.

>>137242690
>GAS JOOZ
Only autists say this anyway. It's a separate idea from ethno-nationalism.

>>137235987
Underrated

>torchlit walk goes off without a hitch
>yet another antifa rally erupts in violence

I'm starting to notice a common theme among all these antifa rallies, I wonder if antifa has anything to do with it.

>>137242789
The driver was probably on the spectrum.

>>137240998
It's not about the MSM, it's about moderate whites who are put off by nazi memorabilia and imagery. The movement needs to be intellugent and palatable for them. The hysteria of the MSM is actually good for us.

>>137234752
Normies are not joining the small-peen preservation brigade, Adolf. They're not joining shit, actually. Normies are just slaving away for nothing and think you're all a bunch of methed-up triler trash and spoiled rich kids who make a living off of stupid people and gibs. Even the trashier white trash is going to be turned off now. Fucking roo.

>>137242907
Which is why your recommendation is partially the correct approach.
Never take blame, never play by the enemy's book of rules. Always make them play by their own rules. But we should also avoid moderating our position, as that would evidence weakness.

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>>137234527
The job of the police is to protect the Right to Lawfully Assemble by those who had a court ordered and lawful permit to do so, from those who would seek to shutdown their right. These rights should have been federally and locally protected even if it meant calling in the national guard to do so. There is no doubt had it been a thousand BLM members holding a rally and 2,000 white supremacists had shown up they would have called in the national guard to protect them and their constitutional right to assemble and be heard.

Idiots like you should shutup when talking about subjects you are clearly too stupid to be discussing.

>>137235928
Except it actually does the opposite. Nobody takes you seriously when you run around with a frog flag, you take away the purpose of WN that we want a white ethnostate by allowing based jews and blacks into the movement. In the end you've not only lost the support of WN but you've also failed to gather support from the masses.

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>>137243036
This is how you activate a normie's almonds. Trust me.

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>>137242789
>GAS JOOZ
>Only autists say this anyway.

And government agent provocateurs

>>137235987
This

Everyone once again were shown how terrorists and nazis act. No one will belive your psy op "it was actually obama or blm or the poluces fault" bullshit.

Terrorist attacks. You nazis caused nonsensical terror out there and killed people in the name of hatred toward others.

You cant damage control that or it makes you even bigger hypocrites. Fuck the nazi terrorists attacking my country

>>137243150
The media will try to come to rallies now and find the most toothless retarded inbred hillbilly to interview (like always) and get them to start saying "Hitler did nothing wrong." It would be nice if that one retard didn't have a chorus of larpers behind him echoing the same phrase. That's all I'm really saying. It's dumb to think optics doesn't affect outcomes.

>>137243368
Indeed. The car attack is also very suspicious, but we won't gain anything by gainsaying it in public.

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>>137243523
>group-wide reprisals are acceptable when whites do it

its like youre trying to incite a race war

>>137243712
Has anyone done any digging on him?

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>>137243523
>2 dead
>communist provocations
>Leftist violence killed a Trump supporter literally two days before
>massive police mishandling of the situation
"NAZI TERRORISM IS THE BIGGEST SCOURGE IN THE NATION! PLS GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY FUCKING NAZIS!!!"

>>137243523
Honestly I think Nazism and White supremacy is fucking retarded. I have white pride no different than black people have black pride etc. I'm proud of my culture and the achievements by those in my culture. But I think it's retarded to look down on someone solely because of the color of their skin. I think looking down on the actions of groups congregated solely because of their skin color is open game for any race.

I do believe every race has the right to being treated as human beings but I strongly disavow propelling one person in education or career based solely on skin color rather than merit.

I strongly disavow the current media narrative to demonize white people and think that white people as a whole need to overcome the media through banding together with any like minded race who is ideologically like minded like those Trump supporters who are of any race. I have always easily gotten along with other races and many times preferred hanging out with a different race I clicked with over a fucking moron who is white.

>>137243523
Not all nazis. /Pol/ is a board of peace.

>>137233668
maybe not accepting people openly carrying nazi flags and KKK hoods would be a start

>>137243213
>Nobody takes you seriously when you run
around with a frog flag,
What I said:
>If you are arguing that we should always be pragmatic and open minded and we should bully larpers into fucking off then nobody in the modern movement really disagrees with you

I don't associate with kekistani people or BASED™ people, we should always be pragmatic and support anything that leads people away from degeneracy. I think most people on the real right know that which is why we supported people like Milo for a time when he was heavily counter-signalling our common enemies.

Currently on Twitter everyone is saying the white supremacist at the rally were Soros plants

>>137233668
We just have to go back to saying what the Silent Majority is thinking, which is definitely not this Nazi bullshit. Most people are ideologues and don't care about ideologies, we need to stop larping for ANYTHING.

Silent Majority gets annoyed by SJWs, and believe it or not, but the Right wing has SJWs too... Nazis.... they get triggered by jews, niggers, fags etc.

The enemy of the Silent Majority will always be SJWs, who are in essence, the Vocal Majority.

Support Silent Majority, Condemn Vocal Majority = Winning

>>137242690
We are hateful though. That's the whole point. How else are we supposed to feel about our genocide? We are pissed. We are angry. And we do hate these fucks. I agree that we shouldn't be celebratory regarding the whale's death, but we should never apologize for it. That's literally sucking jew cock.

>>137243036
You cretin. Where do you think normie whites and other faggots get their perception of us from?

>>137245674
Hate yourselves for being weak, for allowing yourselves to be outsmarted, outplayed, outhumaned by non-whites. Start by improving our 'race', and not lowering to the standards of races you would condemn.

>>137235987
Fucking this. Draw up an actual charter, become an actual movement. Have a message that actually resonates with the public.Enough larping, enough edgy bullshit. No more jackass branding threads.

#not all conservatives.
The vast majority of conservatives are peaceful Americans who only want liberty and respect. The actions of a few bigoted assholes don't define the will of our movement. Common sense conservatives have been denouncing political violence for months.

>>137235987
This

I'm not bowing down to MSM, I'm trying to get the situation diffused before alt-right is labelled as a terror organisation in which we can't rally anymore.
Antica instigates most of the violence for sure, but when the MSM starts manipulating stories, your average normie only sees the words 'white supremacist' and 'kill'. It's about who's news has the fastest and furthest reach.

>>137244514
>>137244514
The thing is the alt-right is too open minded. Literally everyone is welcome, from Traps, trannies, blacks, homos, etc. You're not going to get rid of degeneracy like this. You'll only make people on our side emphasize with the degenerates. What you're saying isn't completely wrong, we just shouldn't abandon the core aspects of the movement.

>>137233668
>At this point, the alt right is about to be labelled as a terrorist group
Thank God
can you now fuck off back to stomfront?

What will be the ramifications of this? Hatred for whites increasing and legalised, whites can no longer comments on race without being called nazis.

Stupid Americans! They're literally participating in the dismantling of our race.

Or nothing will happen, game of thrones is on later.

>>137233668
i just wanna know why the air bag in his car didn't deploy and shut off after smashing the front in completely in.

>>137244010
This. Sure there are groups of morons like that happen to be made up of other races, like BLM and illegals, but those same races have cool people who also hate those groups. Anyone who can't make the distinction needs to shut the fuck up because they make everyone look bad.

>>137235987
This

FFS I am a Muslim but the cuckservative and moderate reactions to this is outright retarded.

Remember Jo Cox?

Remember bowlcut?

Remember that mosque attack in Canada?

They will label you as Nazi and proclaimed that your movement is destroyed no what happened. Now you're acting like retarded Morning Joe posters asking everyone to disavow when those larping WN rallies technically did nothing wrong. Trump didn't win because he sucked the left dicks and apologized, he strikes back harder. The car of peace though was a mistake that should've but I like seeing commies get mowed so eh.

>>137246416

When I think alt-right I don't think of people that do any of those things.People like Milo and Sargon are alt-light not alt-right. Places like the stormer, TRS and radix are alt-right.

It is always a balance, you can't let corruption into the movement but you can't purity spiral over stuff that isn't really that important right now either.

>>137243997
>>Leftist violence killed a Trump supporter literally two days before

Source my man, I have some libshills to btfo.

>>137233668
>We need to create a positive outcome from the Charlottesville rally.
lmao good luck with that.

>>137233668
The fact that the state got called in during a LEGAL, PEACEFUL protest and not during antifa riots is enough.

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>>137233668
We must expand and become the ALT-CENTER.

>>137233668

Wouldn't make any difference. They know that some members don't condone the violence, but they want you to become left wing.

>>137235987
>Build a populist movement with realistic, incremental overt goals.

So anti-globalism and social conservatism?

>>137233668
No we don't we need to stand behind our violent actions it's only by letting these lesser humans know that we can and will use extreme force when dealing with there ilk so that we can properly put the fear back into the sheep

>>137233668
We tried to have a peaceful rally and look what happened.

Just listen to the terrible evil hateful violent things Dr. Duke and Mike Enoch preached when they finally did get to speak.

https://youtu.be/GDizQPZMEhI

>>137233668
>It's the only way of getting normies back onto our side

Normies were never on your side, will never be, and, above all, not needed. Opinion of normies is only relevant during a relatively normal electoral process. What you have is first stages of civil war. Once shit hits the fan normies will invariably stick to anyone who has more ability and will to hurt them. Neither Patriots of 1776, nor Bolsheviks had anywhere near the popular support that would have been required to be elected into power by the time bullets started really flying.

>At this point, the alt right is about to be labelled as a terrorist group.

And? Do you understand that to "reclaim your birthright" you must be prepared not only to BE a terrorist group, but - at the minimum - to fully embrace methods of successful anti-Leftist like Franko, such as machinegunning people en masse on mere suspicion of being an enemy sympathizer.

>>137248738
This post here says it all.

>>137235030
>>137235361
>>137235595
This

No matter how much people might like or sympathize with the old natsoc movement that brand is tainted beyond anything, especially by that asshole in the car and larping faggots like Spencer. What is needed is a new movement that disavows the nazi image and focuses entirely on white solidarity and survival.
We have to make it clear: we don't want supremacy, we just want our people to survive.

>>137236482
Brudeferd i Hardanger

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>>137233668
>we
You're on your own, kekistani.

Suicide might be your best option.

>>137249366
That picture is pretty fucking accurate.

>>137233668
no, this is another opportunity to make normies understand that the media is nothing more than a kosher institution. beef jewish question propaganda. especially giants images exposing the huge amount of jews in news media.

>>137233668
Start q GoFundMe for the victims

>>137233668
people like me tried to warn you. All these useless protests and publicity stunts, a lot of us right wingers went through this shit in the 80s and 90s. The feds came hard after us and a lot of people ended up in prison.

>>137242789
yep, I'm sure as long as the jewish question is not addressed everything is going to be only a question of persuasion while they have all the means of assymetrical power in their hands.

everyone ITT is literal cancer
killyourselves
>we

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>>137236200
Saul Alinsky is a kike, and he dedicated his book "Rules For Radicals" to Satan. If I see that book on someone's bookshelf, I drop my spaghetti

>>137235987

It's not an echo chamber. Balkanization in the US is real. It's happening.

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>>137247538
Aladdin here is right. The Left does not want apologies nor excuses, it wants whites and traditionalists deader than disco. No matter how much you bend over backwards to appease them, the will continue to turn your life into living hell. No lefty issued an apology or anything when one of their bots tried to assassinate several members of the Congress with an SKS. They even had the gall to steathly insult Scalise with that pizza delivery, those smug pedophiles.

There is a simple way to counter this narrative and it involves not being a cuck and tell everyone the truth of the matter: NOBODY WOULD HAVE DIED IF IT WASN'T FOR THE ANTIFA ATTACKING THEIR POLITICAL OPPONENTS AS THEY ALWAYS DO.

But hell no, they absolutely have to punch the "nazies", do they? Fuck freedom of speech, anyone who has ideas less lefty than Chairman Mao is a Nazi and has to be killed on sight.

Maybe the girl who got plowed down would have been alive if she didn't try to partecipate in a gigantic street brawl. It was the Left who killed her. They needed a martyr, and now they got one. Let's point this out and let's not be cucks.

>>137233668
And then Antifa shows up and throws bricks and the children's heads, shit turns violent, (((media))) blames everything on us. Won't work. We need to be militant and organized.

James Alex Fields Jr. was a Jew (Jewish mother).

Jews are apoplectic, trying to force Trump to disavow "white nationalists". Their next step will be to indelibly associate the term "alt-right" with "white nationalist" as a way to forever discredit anyone who likes edgy memes. They're threatened by this formless movement that seems to keep winning small battles.

Would it be a good idea to start bombarding anyone who is Jewish (especially leftist jews) with demands to disavow James Alex Fields, Jr. because he is Jewish?

>>137234752
>Disavowing Fields is probably the best we can do.
We should ignore his existence entirely. All publicity he gets is negative for us. Focus on the rally itself, and how they were illegally denied the right to demonstrate at the Lee statue. Focus on the police shitting the bed and causing the fights.

>>137236804
Twitter, despite being the #1 social media platform for the far right, is overwhelmingly liberal.

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>>137234414
He was under attack and defended himself.

There's laws in some states that if you're under attack from a mob, you have the right to run over them with your car.

The Dodge driver literally Dindu Nuffin.

>>137233668
>socialist kills another socialist
>all legitimacy of the right is now lost
This charlottesville shitshow was a mistake.