Convince me that whites are superior to other races.

>>137207833
Bump. Show me actual statistics and evidence.

>>137207833
Compare countries with a high % of whites to those with a low %

File: 1498614296523.jpg (75KB, 960x798px) Image search: [Google]

75KB, 960x798px

>>137207833

File: whenyougetawaywith911.gif (475KB, 215x194px) Image search: [Google]

475KB, 215x194px

>>137207833
better at get outsmarted by jews than any other race

>>137208016
This is an artificial correlation. The ailments of non-white countries can largely be attributed to socioeconomic conditions, theocracy, and their culture itself. Arabs allegedly have low IQs despite them being genetically similar to Italians, Spanish, and Greeks, the only difference is their living conditions and the religion being forced on their culture. Hell, nonwhite east asian countries such as Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, China, and Singapore have industrialized and modernized to the point they're borderline superior to white countries statistically and especially in regards to intelligence.

Why is this the case if whiteness directly correlates with intelligence and success? It all seems circumstantial, not racial.

>muh white master race
>doesn't have children to preserve said race
t. /pol/

>>137209002
>all of /pol/ is childless losers based on my unsourced idea I pulled from my ass xD

>>137208894
/thread
whitey btfo

>>137207833
they're not. humans are humans. skin color gives no superiority

>>137208894
Nobody is arguing that Japs arent the superior race

now compare blacks in every country

>>137208894
>The ailments of non-white countries can largely be attributed to socioeconomic conditions, theocracy, and their culture itself.
>implying white countries don't have any of those three things
We overcame and created a civilization, meanwhile niggers still can't invent the wheel.

>>137211089
Virtually all blacks today are either trapped in backwards economically fucked African countries, or relatively recent migrants/slaves from those countries in the west.

Correlation is not causation. We have few blacks to judge who haven't been connected to poverty, lack of education, and a negative culture suppressing innovation and growth.

>>137207833
see that new fangled box you're using to relay your stupid opinions to us? white invention, if that's not convincing enough then you can stop using it anytime

>>137212173
Those countries are fucked because the nogs in them have no idea how to leverage the incredible wealth of resources they have access to. Black countries being plagued by corruption and lack of foresight is directly caused by blacks having low IQs. Sorry, it's a racial issue, not a social or economic one. You can easily prove it by comparing blacks of all backgrounds, the wealthiest blacks in the US score lower on standardised tests than the poorest whites.

>in b4 "standardized tests are racisss!!!"

>>137212173
Very funny, did your ((professor)) tell you that?

What about African government officials? They are warlords. What about africans still using slavery across the continent?

>>137212060
The circumstances of white countries are entirely different. White countries were lucky enough to be positioned in an ideal place for trade with Asia, the Middle East, and North Africa. They were also rife with constant warfare between each other, militarizing their society. After the black death(and the travels of Marco Polo and other traders to foreign lands) Europeans were motivated to explore foreign ideas as they realized they weren't the center of the world. This created innovation and colonialism, subjugating almost the entire world with their militarist technological superiority. No other culture had that specific experience, hence no other culture made the same innovations and conquests in the way whites did. That isn't a matter of superiority but rather sheer luck.

White theocracy did exist in the dark ages where there was virtually no innovation for hundreds of years while China, India, and the early muslim empires had at least parity with whites, but it underwent a huge liberalization that separated it from Islam that allowed the oppression by the religion to be lessened and progress to occur. If Islam had a similar liberalization they'd have conquered whites centuries ago.

Plus due to the enlightenment(direct result of globalism and foreign ideas) and the rediscovery of early greek thinking, whites created their own reason, science, and philosophy. This created renaissance and idealism through exposure to new ideas and cultures previously unheard of. No other culture had this opportunity.

Meanwhile blacks are oppressed, mostly by themselves into not accepting these ideas. Due to the legacy of colonialism blacks do not want to accept white ideas and elements of basic civility. They embrace their own culture over whites, even though their own culture is more primitive due to circumstance. This results in tribalism and backwards thinking everywhere there is are blacks. This isn't connected to their race but rather their history and origin.

>>137207833
think of what would happen 1 day, 1 month, then one year in time if whites disappeared from the face of the earth.
now imagine the same three points in time if blacks disappeared from the earth.

If you're argument is correlation =/= causation it's a pretty weak one unless you can prove it objectively

I on the other hand believe in Occam's razor, ala the simplest explanation is the correct one. Have nigs just been given the short end.of the stick in every societal cirumcstance through no fault of their own, or are they just dumber?

Which answer is simpler?

>>137213803
That won't work. He's so deep in the rabbit hole that he genuinely thinks all the problems black communities have are caused by whitey. In his mind if white people disappeared tomorrow then the remaining races would band together and form a utopia now that they don't need to worry about evil whitey holding them down. He's the kind of person who is willfully ignorant of the fact that blacks, latinos and asians are far more racist than whites and the chinks would happily scourge niggers from the earth if it wasn't from the bad PR they'd get with the west.

>>137212491
Africa is a breadbasket of life, the people there were never exposed to conditions that would've incentivized doing any of the "civilized" things you listed there. They survived fine being hunter gatherers and never had any kind of conflict or outside influence of foreign ideas to catalyze evolution of their culture. They were isolated by the sea on three sides and the largest desert in the world on the forth. As such the fact they didn't independently culturally evolve the same way as Europeans should not be surprising.

>>137212536
Not an argument.

File: ppp.jpg (14KB, 320x309px) Image search: [Google]

14KB, 320x309px

>>137207833
Convince me that whites being a minority in the US and Europe will be beneficial to them

File: 147956698454.jpg (8KB, 250x228px) Image search: [Google]

8KB, 250x228px

>>137213803
there would be a new middle/upper class formed, probably taken by asians. The world would keep spinning and we would still be creating great works of art, advancing our tech, and making strides in medicine.

even if there was a period of unrest because of the power vacuum, eventually life would just sort itself out. Be it 10, 100, 1000, 10000 years in the future. Trans-humanism is the final redpill. Identity politics is lefty bullshit.

>>137213683
>lucky
fucking retard, sage

>>137214221
>Africa is a breadbasket of life, the people there were never exposed to conditions that would've incentivized doing any of the "civilized" things you listed there. They survived fine being hunter gatherers and never had any kind of conflict or outside influence of foreign ideas to catalyze evolution of their culture. They were isolated by the sea on three sides and the largest desert in the world on the forth. As such the fact they didn't independently culturally evolve the same way as Europeans should not be surprising.

Yes. The environment there never selected high-IQ individuals, since even dumb ones could survive enough to reproduce by eating whatever they could pick (try that in European winter).

>>137212491

Not all see the benefits of progress, many would say that the simple life of living with nature and keeping things the way they are, are far more noble and civilized than destroying and changing everything for selfish human needs. One man may think that money is the only measure of a successful life, but then another will say that a life knowing oneself is more valuable than any amount of wealth.
Americans worship a man who taught the world to look beyond money and greed, and yet they ignore these words, some even twist them to become wealthier themselves, as the message of avoiding greed has been lost, so have the values of society, and the worth of fellow humans, for them, can only be measured by a standard set by those with different ideals in life.

>>137214221
>a breadbasket of life
Hahaha, those community college classes are really paying off Sweetie

>>137214221
Nice argument. Except that Australian Aborigines never advanced past the hunter gatherer stage in 50,000 years of inhabiting the continent and Australia is certainly not a breadbasket overflowing with natural resources like Africa is.

Maybe, just maybe, the answer is that blacks have too low IQ to be able to make the leap to civilized society on their own? Crazy, I know, but your solutions keep requiring leaps of logic to blame their lack of advancement on outside factors so you don't feel racist. My solution is simple, fits the facts perfectly and doesn't require any leaps of logic to explain why blacks the world over have such trouble adapting to modern society despite the lack of any shared culture. It's genetics. Now the question is will you keep flailing about making excuses for why every single disparate black tribe the world over failed to launch into agriculture and metallurgy or will you just accept the facts and reach the simplest, most obvious conclusion?

>>137213683
>history and origin

of their race. even if black didn't have lower IQ (they do), they would still be incompatible with white society for the resentment they feel and the simple fact that a person will always prefer a member of their own race.

File: go black.jpg (59KB, 625x350px) Image search: [Google]

59KB, 625x350px

>Academic PROOF

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1mgrTGeDPM
or
https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=t1mgrTGeDPM

>>137208184
1/10
>>137208466
7/10
>>137208894
10/10
>>137209002
10/10
>>137211089
blacks don't exists outside of america, just like whites don't
2/10
>>137212060
egypt?
1/10
>>137212723
>not educated
>low iq
you gotta be a retard not to understand that being stupid is often times beyond people's control, you should know better than anyone
>>137213279
no ones really arguing africa isn't a shithole
>>137213683
i mean the ottomans invented science but w/e, at least you're headed in the right direction here
>>137213803
imagine if you were so far up your own ass you were wearing yourself as a hat
>>137213909
2/10
>>137214135
oocams razor is a tool, not proof in itself of anything, often times it fails to provide us with the correct conclusion, if you studied any sort of hard science you'd understand
3/10
>>137214221
guns germs and steel is a terrible book written by a bird scientist, has some good points but totally ignores the fact that cultures and histories do not develop in isolation
5/10

File: nigger dance.webm (1012KB, 450x368px) Image search: [Google]

1012KB, 450x368px

>>137213909
my post got rejected because i was about to repost this

>heres one more Gipsy-Bro

>>137212723
Blacks in Africa do not value western constructs because they are tribalist and primitive in culture. They would prefer to live in their villages like they have for thousands of years than develop into cities because they do not see the value of cities because their entire culture is built around tribalism. They know nothing but tribalism. Their people were never exposed to the same circumstances warranting ideological and societal change as the rest of the world due to their isolation. As such they are essentially an unwesternized people who choose to be reactionary and cling to their old cultures and way of living. This is similar to China or India responding to Europeans during colonialism, but Africa has never united into a single state and progressed to independent westernization like other countries because they've been hugely divided, have a hundred thousand different subcultures, don't see the point in it, and have been constantly been manipulated by western powers for their resources for hundreds of years.

>that one infographic you saw on /pol/ once that showed wealthy blacks score lower than poorest whites

All blacks are connected to their tribal culture. Virtually all blacks are raised around "niggers" who value materialism and other debauchery and promote stupidity and lowlifeness. The wealthiest(does not correlate with most intelligent and capable) are still shackled by this as its a problem of the black communities themselves.

>>137207833
We aren't superior, that's the problem

We're just as susceptible to conquer as any other race and right now we have policy's in place that are putting us last in our own countries

>>137215060
>you gotta be a retard not to understand that being stupid is often times beyond people's control
I fully admit that genetics is a determinant of intelligence and that blacks are genetically predisposed to being less intelligent than whites. In fact that's the crux of my argument. If you're implying they're dumb because of the lack of education we have decades of empirical evidence showing blacks score consistently worse in tests than whites at every single income level. In fact the poorest whites score better than blacks raised in 200k income households! The idea that the problem is socioeconomic in nature just does not hold water, that argument relies entirely on ignoring facts.

>>137207833
Jews are the real master race. Even /pol/ acknowledges this even though many are still in denial

>>137215060
>egypt
WE

>>137215060
You just said Occam's razor was a tool. You didn't refute my observations.

Also, Egyptians are genetically middle eastern. Thanks for proving you're a literal delusional "was kangz"

>>137215480
its all subjective really. Jews are the schemers and whites are the builders.

>>137213279
>professor

Contrary to strawman I reach these conclusions independently.

>African government officials and warlords
Largely puppets of Western nations exploiting their countries and also simply ineffective leadership due to lack of economic and social investment and general socio-economic cohesion in any artificial post-colonial African state. Warlords rise where the government fails, though actually warlords that aren't related to Islamism haven't been that prominent in Africa in the past decade or so. It's actually fairly peaceful south of the muslim populations compared to recent decades.

>""""""""dark ages"""""""" meme
Good goy

File: 1489501791225.png (930KB, 1941x600px) Image search: [Google]

930KB, 1941x600px

>>137208894
Shut the fuck up, retard. You actually have no idea what you're talking about. You're making shit up as you go and refuse to connect the dots, so let me help you.

>The ailments of nigger countries can be attributed to socioeconomic conditions, theocracy, and their culture itself.
Are you actually stupid enough to believe a people's culture is independent of the people itself? The socioeconomic conditions are shit because nogs are shit at maintaining them. Their culture is primitive because they are primitive. It's that simple.

>Arabs allegedly have low IQ's despite them being genetically similar to Italians, Spanish, and Greeks, the only difference is their living conditions and the religion being forced on their culture.
First off all: bullshit. Southern Italians, Greeks, and Spanish admittedly do have some mixed genes with arabs. However this does NOT mean they are actually 100% arabic, and the way they behave is still kept in line by the white cultures they were born in (white cultures created long ago and which are degenerating day by day). Secondly, yes Arabs have lower IQ's than whites by about ten points, or half a standard deviation. This allows them to have civilization, but it limits how many legitimate genius arabs we hear about. Finally, this "religion forced on their culture" has been part of their culture for centuries. Stop being Islamophibic!

>Asian countries being borderline superior to white countries, especially in regards to intelligence.
China is third world. As for Japs having higher IQ, this is true. On average, Japanese score around 110 IQ, and you're somewhat more likely to find smart Asians than to find smart whites. However, they have different kinds of intelligence. They have a brilliant culture and social system, but I can't easily name nearly as many Asian inventors as white inventors.

I don't have time to argue with you, all you'll be getting is this with the hopes that it educates you so you think better next time.

>>137215060
Also
>ottomans invented science
Holy shit you just permanently discredited anything you say, you're literally some sub 100 iq brainlet

>>137207833
First world countries were made by whites. Enough said.

File: 1501991219584.jpg (87KB, 960x829px) Image search: [Google]

87KB, 960x829px

>>137207833
modern civilization

Fuck off with your shit bait faggot.
Anyone who fucking reads knows what the proof is.

>>137215233
>Twisting yourself in knots to avoid admitting the obvious
Come on man. I know it's hard to deprogram after absorbing decades of propaganda about how all humans are equal, differences are only skin deep, etc. But use your brain here. Consider the following:

1. Genetics influences how people look. Skin color, eye color, how broad your nose is, tall, short, etc.

2. Genetic differences between races can be seen at the skeletal level. Blacks have differently shaped skulls.

3. Genetics influences the level of peoples mental faculties

I'll be you agreed with 1 and 2, obvious fact right? Then you stopped at 3 because you have a mental block screaming at you it's racist to acknowledge there could be any genetic factor in how people develop mentally both as individuals and as societies. But we know there is. Black people are genetically predisposed to being dumber than whites. This is fact. It's backed with piles of data. But it's verboten in scientific circles today because the social pressure to conform to the lie that we're all the same is greater than the need to tell the truth that we're NOT all the same and the reason blacks commit so much crime in every single country they inhabit is because they're genetically predisposed to. It's a racial issue.

>>137207833
T. Non-white

>>137207833
You live in a white country.

Get on a plane and travel through all those non-white countries, and tell me how it goes.

File: 1500706398392.jpg (1B, 486x500px)

1B, 486x500px

>>137212173
Blacks remain stupid even when cleaved from black culture. Jews remain intelligent despite centuries of (entirely deserved) racial discrimination by gentiles. How about you find some arguments that aren't typically taught in high schools and colleges? It's not like we haven't heard this nonsense a million times already.

>>137215742
Fuck off paypal

>>137207833
No race is superior. Blacks are apt at living in the jungle and playing bongo drums or whatever they do, whites create civilization. Just a difference of specialization really.

File: image.jpg (123KB, 540x960px) Image search: [Google]

123KB, 540x960px

>>137207833
>>137207988
They aren't

>>137207833
>high average intelligence
>low consanguinity
>high average height
>good looking
>responsible citizens

>>137207833

>2 superpowers discover nuclear fission both are caucasian
>same 2 into space

yeah that's all i got. USSR breakup was probably a setback for the white man.

>>137215415
show me the genetic studies, i doubt you even fully comprehend genetics as a science.
>>137215564
>using oocums razor to conclude that you are right
if you wanna go full retard that's your prerogative, maybe provide evidence or something, from like a respectable journal, same thing goes for your claims about genetics, also lumping all of africa into one thing just proves you have very little knowledge of how large that continent is, and how cultures come about. prove me wrong.

>>137207833
What language did you ask that question in, Paco?

>>137208894
arabs and related peoples are inbred as fuck, mate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin_marriage_in_the_Middle_East

>>137213909
Not an argument.

>>137214135
Blacks haven't always been given the short end of the the stick, but circumstantially they're one of the most primitive cultures on earth that has never been united or given opportunity to westernize before it was colonized. They have the largest uphill climb to bringing their people up to standard with the modern world, however I've never seen actual evidence that this is connected to their race and not their location and history.

>>137214483
Why wouldn't high-IQ individuals be selected for breeding by being successful warriors and leaders? Even in a primitive society there is social stratification that causes only the smartest and most intelligent people to survive.

>>137214621
Blacks lived in a perfect environment to support their primitive tribalist lifestyle is what I meant.

>>137214853
Australia is a similar environment to Africa as far as supporting their hunter gatherer lifestyle, and it's also fairly isolated as you can't ride the same Indian ocean sea winds that brought early humans there to go anywhere else. They were isolated and they could survive. No other radically different civilizations for thousands of miles, no sociological evolution.

>>137214895
>would still be incompatible with white society for the resentment they feel
People aren't killing every single Asian they see for the actions of the mongol empire.

>and the simple fact that a person will always prefer a member of their own race
If this was true /pol/ wouldn't be trying to evoke Hitler and white nationalists wouldn't be ramming people with cars for not supporting them.

>>137215760
take an intro to history class, fuck maybe even read a book while you're at it. you'll see that i'm right.
white peolle invented modern science, but the middle east was charting the skies when we were still too stupid to wash ourselves.

>>137217149

we wuz arithmeticians and shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiie

>>137207833
Look at the computer you're using. Then go read the US constitution. Afterwards have fun enjoying a free society that was given to you by them.

>>137216933
>Getting money to do studies on racial differences in IQ
Not going to happen. Academic institutions are invested heavily in pushing the idea we're all the same. Any person who tries doing a study on the issue immediately gets stigmatized and blackballed from the academic community immediately. Remember the universities are heavily slanted liberal, protecting their ideology is more important than the facts these days.

That said the data is still there if you look. All you need to do is connect the dots and come to your own conclusion. I mean it's blindingly obvious, which makes the fact that academics refuse to touch the issue with a 10ft pole all the more egregious.

>>137207833
The GDP of historically white nations compared with other nations.

The UK deported its criminal scum to Australia, and they made it a modern, Western society.

The US allowed free black slaves to settle in Liberia, and it's a hellhole without civilization.

>>137207833
Convince yourself faggot, go to a mall in a white area then go to a mall in a black area. Not to buy anything, just watch the people. Everyone at a mall is the lowest common denominator on the IQ bell curve. See and experience for yourself which race is superior.

>>137207833
You can't. There is no empirical argument with a clear picture of the difference of cognitivity between the races on distinct separation of environment, culture, and genetics. However, one can point to history and say objectively that the white population as a whole has accomplished more for society than any other ethnic group. This still holds true today. There is also a growing consensus that the IQ gap is primarily a result of culture and genetics, as a control for the environment shifts the gap very little.

File: Gilbert_Stuart_Williamstown_Portrait_of_George_Washington.jpg (601KB, 1588x1932px) Image search: [Google]

601KB, 1588x1932px

>>137207833

Asia
>Commies or nuked hooks

Africa
>uncivilized

MidEast
>Islamic Theocracies

Western World
>republics and democratic representation

>>137217048
Tell me, why go to all the effort of making excuses for why every single disparate black people never got past hunter gathering when you have a conclusion that doesn't require drawing long bows? You're ideologically stuck to the idea that there CAN'T be mental differences between races so you're deliberately ignoring the conclusion that best fits the facts. Rather than going "Uhhh, well...This black tribe felt no pressure to advance...and...uhhh, this black tribe didn't meet other peoples..." why not just say "They didn't advance because genetically blacks have low intelligence and couldn't make the leap to agricultural civilization on their own"?

>>137207833


>hai guise plz do research for me

kys

>>137217621
mixed race people reliably average in between the races of their parents. that pretty much proves that IQ is inherited.

>>137207833
nice slide thread yet again.
White nationalism is not white supremacy, and the media's attempts to label it as such is intentionally misinformed. It is preserving our culture and people from being replaced in their own homes by (((special interest groups))) who can't stand our culture. sage and ignore.

>>137209684
You'd be correct if it was only skin color and not other biological differences that played a part.

>>137217621
I personally believe that we must have a pilot program of a segregated school for the top black youth. This would promote a stronger culture of academic achievement among blacks and would allow eventually for more accurate data on the IQ gap.

>>137207833
Whites are only superior to niggers. Rest of world equal.

As someone of Iranian descent living here in the US who believes in the US constitution, libertarian values, and anti-globalism who am I supposed to support? On one hand I hate Jews and niggers are terrible humans who ruin everything (and so are Arab Sunni Muslims desu) but on the other hand you white fags are so obsessed with your MUH WHITE RACIAL SUPERIORITY that you alienate any and all other people who actually agree with most if not all of your viewpoints.

I just dont know what to do.

whites and jews built everything

>>137218041

quit being so emotional for starters

>>137208894
Explain Russia

>>137215742
>Are you actually stupid enough to believe a people's culture is independent of the people itself?
Greeks and Turks are genetically almost identical yet one beheads people in Syria for not having a face veil and the other shitposts on /int/ about not paying their debt. American Blacks and Congolese are literally the same people but they have very little in common due to a mere historical 200 or so year divide. Europeans are frail and well educated, white Americans from Europe are fat and stupid. Culture can radically change people independently of the physical traits of the people themselves, that seems like common sense.

>yadda yadda southern Europeans are largely arabs but their culture makes them different
This is my point. Culture supercedes race.

>despite being more intelligent Asians have a different kind of intelligence
Again, culture. Sinospheric culture values discipline and end results over innovation and creativity, partially rooted in their pre-western establishment and pressure to compete with white countries as part of their westernization.

>>137216215
>genetics influences how people look
Nothing to do with intelligence or social capability enough to warrant beliefs of superiority.
>genetics influences at the skeletal level, blacks have differently shaped skulls
Different skull structure is not indicative of a lack of neurological capability.
>Genetics influences the level of peoples mental faculties
Yes, this is true in the case of diseases and disorders such as autism and other physical brain disease. I've yet to actually see evidence that the genetic divide between races is wide enough that the different skeletal and neurological structures actually makes one group inferior to another.

If this is actually the case, could you provide non-anecdotal analysis of the interior brain cavities of blacks and whites and the actual brain differences? Evidence that their neurons and brain structure isn't as developed as whites?

File: IMG_3516.jpg (43KB, 532x314px) Image search: [Google]

43KB, 532x314px

>>137217829
>White nationalism is not white supremacy
Nigga, no one cares about the distinction. You're still retarded either way

>>137213683
Islam had the Greek knowledge for over 1000 years and they hardly did a thing with it. The collapse of Rome was a huge setback and yet other populations had only an equal status to our injured state.

>>137218152
Im not, just pointing out your strategies are redundant

>>137207833
White people are not superior to any race. Just look at what's happening today. They'll cower when you call them names.

>>137218079
"whites and jews built everything"
Then why do whites hate the jews?

>>137218437
Jews dont build shit, they leech off the labor of goyim

>>137218335

where's the arguments rebbit

>>137218422

what strategies, you seem to be an outsider that thinks we're a group mind

File: IMG_3514.jpg (66KB, 573x750px) Image search: [Google]

66KB, 573x750px

>>137218530
Tony Danza was a fag

>>137216698
This infographic is interesting but I find it invalid because even though the parents are of a different race, they seem like they still lived a normal life and were allowed to interact with members of their own race in school and such. Thus even if a black child were raised by white parents, they'd still be free to be exposed to negative degenerating elements of black culture both through media and through school/friends which they would end up identifying with and essentially absolving them into black culture.

Has there been a similar study where the adopted children were homeschooled? That might prove me wrong. I'm curious.

Also
>Jews are still intelligent despite discrimination
Jews are tribalist, but in a different way than blacks. They work together for each other's interests and actively promote, teach, and treat each other as entirely separate members of the societies they live in. They've also accumulated large swaths of wealth which allows them to afford the highest quality education for their children as possible. The fact their IQs are high is not surprising nor indicative of anything.

File: 1498499598375.png (1B, 486x500px)

1B, 486x500px

>>137207833
Sadly we're not

>>137218818
Girl on the left is qt3.14.

>>137218303
>Evidence that their neurons and brain structure isn't as developed as whites
Difficult, because as I said here: >>137217316
The topic is verboten in academia. You can't do a study on the difference in cognitive ability between races, you won't receive approval for money and even if it does get approved then you just get blackballed and kiss your career goodbye. You have the data like here: >>137216698 that clearly shows that it's a nature not nurture issue though.

File: 1502114589502.jpg (40KB, 625x626px) Image search: [Google]

40KB, 625x626px

>>137216822

File: 1473484591803.jpg (1MB, 2410x3547px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 2410x3547px

The concepts of liberty, democracy, and individuality; the greatest art, music, and architecture in the world; the spread of the western model of civilisation across the world; the thirst for science, discovery, morality, philosophy and beauty.
You'd have to be pretty brainwashed not to see it.

>>137216985
Most populations are inbred across the world, inbreeding has only historically stopped being practiced widespread relatively recently.

>>137217398
Correlation is not causation. Who is to say that Liberia is a terrible country rife with war and instability because of aggravated ethnic conflict that has been going on between tribes there for millennia and that the freed slave communities only made it worse? African countries have never entirely been united and westernized, of course there's a contrast. That doesn't mean it's a result of sub-saharan Africans physically being sub-saharan Africans.

>>137217596
Not an argument.

>>137217621
I agree and I haven't seen convincing evidence to the contrary.

File: 1450838939303.png (138KB, 566x528px) Image search: [Google]

138KB, 566x528px

>>137209161
Cmon be a little more mature.

>>137213683
>muh Jared Diamond
Oh boy.

>>137217726
I'm not jumping to the conclusion that blacks are the way they are because of their physiology because I haven't found any evidence of it. I'm not "rejecting" outside opinions, why else do you think I'd be autistically replying in this thread? I'm actually trying to hunt down the truth on the subject of race on the only place that might actually provide an answer about it.

You're simply trying to apply reason here that it's a simpler and hence truthful answer when you haven't actually found real evidence that this conclusion is correct. That's a hypothesis at this point, not reality. Sure, I understand the reasoning and it does make sense, yet there is no evidence to support this aside from circular logic.

>black people live in bad places
>white people live in good places
>therefore black people are physically bad at living

There is no actually evidence to this.

>>137220062
>black people live in bad places
>white people move to bad places
>they become good places
Woah really makes you think.

>>137207833
One white guy plows into a crowd of Antifa blocking the road... all white people are Hitler. That's why white people are superior. If a nigger did it... he would just be a monkey among many.

>>137220062
If we as a society invested in the program here >>137217918 then this issue would finally clear up.

>>137218177
What?

>>137218415
Islam is a cult-like religion that likely deemed Greek knowledge as some kind of heathen babblings that drove them further from God, this is part of the religion and not the race of it's adherents. If it wasn't for the black death and increased global trade introducing other cultures, ideas, and a rediscovery of greek literature in the aftermath of the fall of the Byzantine empire then the renaissance probably wouldn't have even existed and Christians would've recycled papers by Archimedes for religious texts.

Oh wait they did that anyway.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archimedes_Palimpsest

>>137207833
Whites are a minority on earth. If other populations stay pure and keep exporting people into white populations then we won’t have a population.

>>137220062
It's the black people who make the places they live bad. Look at South Africa, it's as good an example as you'll ever get. 1950s it was a decent place. Currently after apartheid ended it's a hellhole where the whites who are holding out are hiding in fortified suburbs away from the blacks, or the poor ones who can't get genocided. You can see this pattern wherever there is a critical mass of them. The US the wealthiest country on Earth is literally 3rd world in some cities. Live in Detroit for a few weeks and you'll wonder if you're in the USA or the fucking Congo. The US would have one of the LOWEST crime rates in the world if it was 100% white. Conversely if it was 100% black the crime rate would be on par with any other black nation in Africa. Why is it that blacks living in an extremely wealthy first world nation commit crime at almost the exact same rate as they do in impoverished African hellholes? Why is it this behaviour can be seen anywhere they live be it the US, Europe, Africa, etc?

At some point you need to sit back, stop deluding yourself and properly connect the facts.

>>137219383
>my reasoning is true, I'd prove it but I'm not allowed

Blaming the liberal scientific establishment sounds like a cop out. Unless studies are performed which prove that whites and superior to blacks then there is no genuine basis for belief in ethnic white superiority. Also as I said here >>137218856 that paper has a flaw in that the children weren't controlled for interacting with the culture of their race. Black children to white parents could still bond with degenerative black culture in school and the media, it doesn't prove culture isn't responsible.

File: pleasant-burden-1895.jpg (533KB, 1248x1853px) Image search: [Google]

533KB, 1248x1853px

>tfw OP ignores your posts

The one point I'll agree is that the quality of a race is in constant flux. If whites continue the trend of the intelligent and successful not having children, and the mixture of races, then we are accomplices in the dysgenics of our own people, which is exactly what is outlined in the kalergi plan.

why should I try to convince you when you've clearly already made up your mind? Fuck off back to /leftypol/, you don't see us going into your board asking dumb questions and then refusing to accept the logical answer to said dumb question.

>>137220200
This can still be explained by culture. Whites in South Africa basically establishing a miniature version of their own country while they rule over it and then after they leave it gets torn down to revert to the pre-British tribalist culture and identity. Africans have not undergone unification, independence, and westernization. They were just conquered while they were still tribalists and then given the states when whites left. They do not culturally value those establishments and they do not identify them as being your own.

>>137220919
Sorry dude, I just now got to the bottom of the thread. I've been replying on my way down, didn't mean to ignore you.

>>137221163
I haven't made up my mind though.

/pol/ is the best place I trust on the internet to actually debate about race realism on. Anywhere else will just resort to the regular default answer of "everyone is equal" even though not everyone believes that. I'm asking why. And I have yet to get concrete answers and evidence of white people actually being physiologically superior thus far.

>>137220533
I do believe myself In the possibility in the gap being primarily cultural. That being said, one must remain cognizant of the current division of humanity into fundamentally incompatible cultures, coupled with the fact that even minor changes in cultural attitudes takes a liberalised country, say America, about half a lifetime. To not only change a single nation's culture but to entirety replace the primary culture of several countries is a feat that will require several millennia in a liberal estimate.

For black-hearted issues I believe that any population with a representation of below half will feel unwanted. This is the primary reason beyond possible genetic differences of the IQ gap. Any solution must address this problem.

>>137221232
>This can still be explained by culture
Can be. I don't know why you'd bother unless you were just ideologically opposed to the idea of race being an influence on intellect.

It's simple, shitskins and other mud sewer people choose to live around whites.

>>137207833
We human beings are not born with prejudices. Always they are made for us. Made by someone who wants something. Remember that when you hear this kind of talk. Somebody's going to get something out of it. And it isn't going to be you.

File: IMG_0029.png (26KB, 536x392px) Image search: [Google]

26KB, 536x392px

>>137207833

>>137221572
People have already explained it to you and you have dismissed it with
>muh socioeconomic conditions and culture
Despite it clearly not being the case.
You've made up your mind and your trying to convince people to come to your side by trying to be a sneaky cunt, and nobody is falling for it.
Just fuck off back to your own board.

File: 1502532126395.jpg (532KB, 616x5370px) Image search: [Google]

532KB, 616x5370px

>>137207833

The entire history of the human race.

>>137221596
There is a large sociological impact to this too.

Minorities in any country by default(in the exception of a minority ruling a majority) will usually be ostracized by society for being different, will reject the state administration, and usually have worse economic and scholastic performance. This is the case even in Europe where Eastern Europeans move to Western Europe, and even though both are white, christian, and culturally similar, they're still ostracized because of minor cultural differences and perceived traits related to the circumstance.

>>137221644
Because culture can objectively be analyzed to show potential causation for behavior within members of the culture. Blacks culturally idolize rappers, criminals, and womanizers and directly emulate them.
>but they do this because they are intellectually inferior
A good counterargument, but the basis of that lacks any real evidence outside of unproven theory. Culture is the natural answer to this question.

>>137222080
None of you have actually proven that socioeconomic conditions and culture isn't the case. All blacks adhere and are part of black culture who propagates backwardsness and tribalism even if they adopt white culture and become successful. If race is the real culprit, provide ANY evidence that suggests the neurology of non-whites is different and any study that actually controls for exposure to black culture. I haven't seen it yet. And saying such studies cannot be done due to liberal influence on science is admitting that white supremacy is based on theory and vitriol, not fact.

Actually prove me wrong. That's why I'm here. I want to be proven wrong.

>>137207833
don't really post on /pol/ so can someone tell me what's up with all the maymay flags? is it some 4chan X shit?

>>137222130
>crime statistics

I know this already damnit. What I'm trying to argue about is WHY this divide exists. I'm arguing that it's socioeconomic and cultural, and you are trying to argue that it's their bodies themselves.

>>137222789
They're the old style flags that used to be on here a long time ago. It's integrated into the site for everyone.

>>137222130
>100% of homicide
wait what?

>>137222885
how long has it been like this?

>>137207833
non-whites all want to live with white people but not the other way around.

>>137208184
Stop using brown eyes in your picture.

>>137221644
race has no biological basis. There's more genetic diversity in the "black race" in Africa than the entire rest of the Human species.

>>137222809
If you are interested, I recommend reading "The Black-White Test Score Gap." It has nice statistics, a reasonable argument, and is an easy read overall.

>>137222992
>white pipo rape and pillage non white countries
>muh colonies
>NON WHITES WANNA LIVE WITH US REEE GET OUT OF OUR CUNTREE

>>137207833
>convince me of the strawman that leftists made up to make white nationalists sound bad

i like these flags

>>137207833
>convince me
Everything you use is made by white people.

It's truly down the the individual but it's easier to gel with people that look like you

Some people hold on to their heritage because they are proud of what their ancestors have done.

East Asians are the smartest and have most respect for their elders, white people are divided politically because they have been told they are special

black people have a chip on their shoulder and have had no father figures to teach them manners and to earn your keep

Pakis hold onto their Muslim identity more than anything so they can't assimilate, doesn't make it any easier when they are literally inbred and their mums look like beekeepers

Americans are loud and obnoxious, they think they are so important and advanced when in reality they don't even have foreskins... such a shit culture to get your foreskin removed what the fuck, why?

>>137222992
White people took the best land me hearty.

We go on holiday to places too dry and un vegetated for our pasty skin and come back

File: a78a22682963d4718f789969fbd941d7.jpg (35KB, 1200x700px) Image search: [Google]

35KB, 1200x700px

>>137207833
People from great civilizations thinking they inherently superior to "barbarians" has always been thing. Unbeknownst to them is the fact that all civilization are bound to die and that another people will rise to take their place

What is hilarious is that despite unprecedented historical knowledge, white people still fall for the same traps Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, Chinese, Arabs and countless others did.
Resting on the accomplishments of their ancestors thinking it is the natural state of being because they are inherently superior to others

White domination has last 300 years, a miniscule lapse of time compared to what other civilization did and it is already coming at end

>>137222953
I've already refuted this argument. Indigenous Australians were isolated since they could no longer use the Indian ocean jet stream to travel and they simply lived there. There were thousands of miles away from other complex civilizations, they were never exposed to a reason to evolve past hunter gatherer cultures unlike whites whose home continent was a nexus of multiple different civilizations, prohibitively cold, invaded by thousands of different people, and had access to the Mediterranean sea which allowed complicated trade empires between isolated communities to emerge. Australia was isolated, unpopulated, and they didn't need to develop complicated trade to survive. This isn't surprising.

>>137222972
Two or three months.

>>137223084
I actually will, thank you for recommending me something actually relevant to the subject matter.

File: IMG_0398.jpg (114KB, 800x460px) Image search: [Google]

114KB, 800x460px

>>137222648
Just go to Africa once and I swear you will redpill.

>>137223829
Vikings were white, romans were white, must come in spells

>>137222066
that image is fake my dude, it's never been confirmed. people have called the bureau of justice for confirmation and it's completely bullshit. someone even tracked down the creator of the image apparently and even he said he just made it up without expecting it to be spread around so much

>>137224024
I'm aware Africa is largely a shithole, I'm debating here about why. What Schweitzer eludes to be the cause of ethnicity I suspect to actually just be African culture.

File: pocky.jpg (19KB, 287x175px) Image search: [Google]

19KB, 287x175px

>>137207833
we invented pocky, but the Japanese stole it and took all the credit.

pic related. It's why whites are superior.

>>137208894
>attributed to socioeconomic conditions, theocracy, and their culture itself

And what informs those 3 things? Genetics?

File: bloodriver.png (90KB, 316x609px) Image search: [Google]

90KB, 316x609px

>>137207833

>>137207833
> hasn't read thead
> space travel

>>137224773
f

>>137224687
No, history.

History, meaning the previous actions taken by the group over the course of their existence causes them to develop distinct traits, traditions, and dogmas. Plus religion has a fundamental role in oppressing development.

Once, the "whitest" of scandinavians essentially lived in a culture comparable to subsaharan africans in tribes. They raided foreign lands constantly as part of their culture and religion and felt no need to evolve until they were Christianized by the people they were constantly fighting with and nexused with dozens of other cultures all across Asia through the viking trade boom.

No genetic role in that, just circumstantial progression.

>>137224773
>Europeans had technological advantage when colonizing Africa

I know that, obviously.

Bump.

It's been almost three hours and none of you have actually given me solid evidence.

>>137224386
I will leave you with a few notes:
1) It is clear that the majority of the cognitive differences between ethnicities are primarily a result of an amalgamation of economical, cultural, and genetic differences.
2) These properties of humans are variable and shift over time, with the order listed being the respective order of flow.
3) While it is necessary to appreciate people individually, superficial diversity (by ethnicity, sex, ectetera) is generally more harmful than a uniform populace. Intellectual diversity also leads to adverse environments, but it allows for important social growth.
4) most people of lower caliber in society are also lower in cognition. This property could either lead you to discover or reject lower people, but should be nonetheless understood.
5) People as a whole are only willing to accept a singular culture (their own most of the time). This property explains why countries need a single nation's, a single outspoken group, and a singular ideology to remain structurally intact.

>>137207833
they were kings and shit

>>137225804
Hey now! Look at my posts again.

>>137225992
Well you haven't quite proven the idea that whites are superior, though your arguments are sound and based on objective truth.

>>137225884
I agree. Genetics does play a role but not large enough on it's own to warrant beliefs of physical supremacy.

>>137220844
You incredible asshat, the reason why Detroit is such a hellhole is because it's a rust-belt town writ large. It looks like shit because there's literally not enough people left behind to maintain all the crumbling infrastructure. And the resulting poverty, in turn, drives up the crime rate.

I mean, how could you have left out the biggest factor of that specific instance you brought up?

>>137226275
This. White flight literally resulted in the town becoming abandoned and starting a slippery slope of it getting worse the more and more people fled from inner city blacks.

If white flight never occured Detroit would've never went to hell. Likely the same in all major western cities that have impoverished minorities of a different culture.

>>137208894

>muh Japanese

You do realize that you're talking to guys who masturbate to anime waifus and play Japanese vidya games, right? There are very few on this board who'd disagree with you that East Asians are comparable, if not superior, to modern-day whites, at least intellectually and culturally speaking.

I'd add that """race""" is the primary contributor towards creating circumstance. Do black communities suffer universal hardship because the white people overseeing those communities just hate them so much? Or are they just that dumb as a whole and white attitudes shift accordingly?

Also, race =/= IQ, but it is the best early indicator. There are some relatively smart black people, but their quantity pale in comparison to whites and Asians. The reality is that that major ethnic groups tend to inherit similar intellects, and that blacks just happened to be some of the most poor in the world.

>>137226500
so if detroit had more whites it would be better?

File: unnamed.jpg (52KB, 640x287px) Image search: [Google]

52KB, 640x287px

>>137213683
This is a highly oversimplified understanding of history, you're just commenting on what happened at the meta level of the time. You're not acknowledging the feats of ingenuity, courage and creativity that took place and the differences there. You're just explaining how it was ALLOWED to happen, not that it had to happen. Europe claimed mastery of the world, through being more adaptable and cunning. To pretend the rest of the world does not have the same violent and greed driven tendencies is absolute bullshit, most continents have experienced their own non-naval colonizations, empires, genocides, slavery and wars. You just don't hear about it because compared to the extravagant and world changing wars of the Europeans; it's a tiny footnote in History that no one rightfully gives a fuck about it - until now, 2017. When we need a new fetish to fill the hollowness of our degraded society so we cling to this antiquated and draconian notions of all Man being the same. In the face of all the cold hard evidence in front of you - in your uneducated mind, it's all blown away by a shallow understanding of the complexity of History.
>TL;DR These Leftists only have a coffee book understanding of most topics and aren't worth debating

>>137217398
This. Even white criminals can create a worthy civilized society, whereas blacks can only criminalize civilized societies.

>>137226275

>Be a successful white neighborhood
>niggers start to move in
>they play loud music, get into idiotic fights and commit far more crimes
>whites get worried, start to move out from neighborhoood
>even more niggers come in, local economy starts to crash because niggers can't into economics
>crime skyrockets.
>last whites start to move out
>now majority black neighborhood that can't afford mortgages or rent rates
>buildings start to become abandoned as niggers get the boot
>buildings start to get torn down into empty lots
>The once functional white neighborhood has fallen into ruin

I mean you are not wrong, white flight is what ruins once great neighborhoods... because whites are the ones that made them great in the first place.

>>137222972
A few months. If you want national flags, go to int or bant.

>>137214853

>and metallurgy

ahem.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haya_people

>>137207833
If we spliced genes to take out inferior ones and supplant them with superior ones we wouldn't have race debates anymore. Unfortunately, pretty much all race studies are being kept suppressed by Jews, who assert that only they shall be racially dominant. Hence we'll never get genetic homogeneity with Aryan traits unless someone illegally and through self-funding experiments with modifying genes through trial and error, but that will take countless experiments in parallel, or else many generations of study.

My ex is a white nationalist nowadays and she rants about sodomites.

Feels good knowing I sprayed my load deep in her ass on many occassions. Lol.

White nationalists like her new dude are pretty beta.

>>137207833
How many civilizations were built by non-white races that created technology of the scale to change the entire human race and how it lives? Which civilizations have actually achieved the greatest breakthroughs of mankind? Which civilizations have had men or machines on surfaces not within the effects of Earth's gravity?

Which civilizations will carry man to the stars and save it from extinction on this planet?

It sure as fuck isn't African. It won't be South American. Australia is right the fuck out. Asia has some possibility. But a betting man would put the odds on Europe or North America. And Europe's chances are doing nothing but decrease as the non-whites move in.

Do the math. Follow the logic train. You may have been indoctrinated all your life, but if you actually think, you can figure it out.

>>137229920
>in her ass
>degenerate and not even procreation

>>137230079
procreative*

Don't know. Don't care. It doesn't matter. Supremacists give white people the WORST image and their existence only hurts white people overall.

>>137230079

Yeah but it felt really good for my penis. It was so tight it almoooooost hurt me.

Sometimes I wonder it it hurt her. I hope so.

>>137230451
Agreed. I prefer ethnic nationalism to white supremacy. Everyone needs a safe space until we find the best traits of humanity and correct the world's inadequacies through Aryan supremacy.

>>137220062
Explain South Africa then, the ONLY successful country in Africa happens to be the one founded by whites and has the highest white % population in Africa.

>>137230451
>>137230668
Reddit is that way, friends.

>>137231114
Whites are probably ethnically superior, but kikes won't let us do conclusive studies. I can tell you one thing definitively, however: kikes are not the 'chosen' race, and they would only harm society with their traits.

File: 234.jpg (83KB, 691x466px) Image search: [Google]

83KB, 691x466px

>this thread again

>>137224386
Ethnicity creates culture, African culture is bad because it was made by Africans.

Culture comes AFTER the people, not before.

>>137231114
What is Reddit about that? Ego, cockiness, narcissism are all negative traits and belief in supremacy is fueled by these things. Try bragging when you aren't on the verge of extinction.

File: 1490604556668.gif (851KB, 2970x2400px) Image search: [Google]

851KB, 2970x2400px

>>137207833
>>137207988
Thought you'd never ask.

>>137212173
>>137210300
Kek, changes flag half way through the thread. What a newfag.

File: aladdin 911.gif (1000KB, 287x193px) Image search: [Google]

1000KB, 287x193px

>>137217149
>but the middle east was charting the skies
>mfw

>>137223829
Chinese are still here though, probably they are superior to other races.

Rome, Egypt, Caral, Sumer, Babylon, etc.

Every place inherited by whites is a civilised society.