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Any Libertarians out their? Should we turn on the stormfags or help them also i want to hear some peoples thought on the incident today.
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Libertarians live and let live, but these fascist fucks gotta go.
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We should abandon conservative white males in favor of a motley crew of low iq minorities and aids riddled degenerates
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No, the left still hasn't backed down. When the stormfags are getting close to snapping the spectrum like overextended rubber, then we step in.

Just a little longer, they're still not accepting they're wrong.
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>>137205788
Checked. Cringe Kekistanis have to go.
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I dunno man, come join us on /liberty/ on m8 chan though, we're better organized there.
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>>137205583
shoo shoo shills, eternal reminder that at least NatSocs respect private property than Communists
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We are your only chance. Hitler purged the people who wanted to nationalize industry and eliminate public property. The necessities of war forced him to go farther than he would have liked. If we work together we can have a mostly free market system, as long as it does not incentivize harm to the volk.
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>>137205583
Fucking wait more than 24 hours to find out what actually happened and decide for yourself when you have more information
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>>137206196
No they fucking don't, they're literally socialist as well.
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protest peacefully but also use self defense. do not initiate violence.
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Chill out and wait for the overton window to shift to something at least tolerable.

Left liberals have their useful idiots, we have ours. And at least they dress better and shower.
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>>137205583
>libertarian wondering if he should ally with fascists

not sure if you understand either of those words.
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>>137205583
We just need to remove lefty and everything will be fine.
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>>137205583
We're libertarian, we don't give a fuck about what others do. The problem is the fascies knew how the left would react and did it anyway, now the whole right is fucked. We were never with the stormfags in the first place but this nigger-tier behavior is unacceptable for right-wingers
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>>137206196
>NatSocs respect private property
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
the fuck??
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btw you're not a libertarian if you don't support civil rights
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>>137205583
Good luck with your libertarian values in nog land
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>>137206645
I'd rather live in NatSoc totalitarian hell than Communist totalitarian ultra-starvation-hell desu
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>>137206570
I hate the stupid storms hits on here and the fact that they think everyone who doesn't follow their ideology is a secret a Jew. But i don't want this place to be shut down by the CIA. If we survive through this us as libertarians should take back this board
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>>137205583
>Should we turn on the stormfags or help them also i want to hear some peoples thought on the incident today.

Both sides are equally statist and retarded. I'm in the "wait and see what happens while these lulzcows destroy themselves" camp.
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>>137206388
>>137206645
read a book you left-libertarian doubleniggers

>>137206799
faggot detected
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>>137206620
>If you confront your enemies and defend yourself they win

Drop the flag leaf
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>>137205583
You already have Lolbertarianism in the US. It stands for absolutely nothing. You continue to bring America down by not taking a stand on anything. Absolutely useless.

>yess goyim be a Libertarian. It certainly wasn't what America was nearer its inception and is what has gotten us into this mess it's currently in

Gas yourself.
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>>137206972
Learn to type in English, retard.
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>>137206833
I'd rather not live in either
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Libertarianism only works in white countries.
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>>137205583
So is libertarian just code word for 'non racist Marxist' or what?
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>>137207071
the nazis did not respect private property. read a book, commie.
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>>137206799
I support most civil rights however i do believe in borders. I hate how the stormfags are always trying to group us with them
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>>137207132
You an be libertarian and still have laws, retard. It's called minarchy.
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>>137207073
>strawman
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Compromise and go Propertarian
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>>137207407
You support civil rights as blacks work against your interests without fail in every nation on this planet? You cannot have your beautiful libertarian paradise in a multicultural society---it is impossible. They will always take it away from you
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>>137206972

This place is already lost to the fashies and has been for some time. It's not just /pol/. Go on /tv/ or /hr/ and you'll see plenty of people obsessed by who is a jew, who fucks a jew, who fucks a black, etc. 4chan as a whole is, for normies, "that nutter far-right site". All we can do now is ridicule them just as they are ridiculed in real life.
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>>137207682
First day on 4chan huh Pierre?
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>>137207132
The free market/unrestrained capitalism and a small federal government that doesn't infringe on personal freedomz is what many libertarians wish for. Anything outside of that are memes. Enjoy your NSA, faggots.
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>>137207807

10+ years, on and off. I remember when /pol/ was not all fashies.
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>>137207822
And you'll never get that because shitskins will push hard for a big welfare state.
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>>137207630
We'd obviously need a white majority country to function adequately as a libertarian nation, but that doesn't mean we can't keep some of the BASTE minorities. That word "minority" is key, though.
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>>137205788
>Libertarians live and let live

Fallacy. You forget that some people don't want to apply the same philosophy to you.

We can only have libertarian institutions if we first remove everyone who goes against them: welfare leeches (i.e. most non-whites, except maybe asians), communists, etc.
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>>137205583
I couldn't give a single fuck.
Mind your own fucking business and get of my property.
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>>137207179
Same. I want old america back.
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>>137207397
you are absolutely illiterate if you believed that Nazi germany nationalized everything to the extent that the actual commies did.

Reminder that left-libertarians support (((open-borders))) and (((civil rights))), exhibit A: >>137206799

Cucks, all of you. Commie-lites. Only Hoppe can save Libertarianism so people would actually damn respect it, and I'll have you red-sympathizing bastards physically removed in a heartbeat
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>>137207989
There would be no welfare state under a libertarian federal government unless X state or territory wanted it. If you don't like that shit, you'd be free to move to a different state that more coincided to your ideology/lifestyle.
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>>137208128
>off*
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>>137207918
There have always been nat soc here.
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>>137205583
Stormfags are beyond redemption, they are a mirror image of Antifa

Let them play their stupid games and be drowned in their own stupidity
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>>137207822
That is a pipe dream. Human beings have an overwhelming desire to control others, and this goes for individuals on both sides of the political aisle. These kinds of conditions are what lead to a major political change, and I only see this one getting worse. You're going to have to make a choice.
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>>137206196
>NatSocs respect private property

No they fucking don't. They want all that shit to be controlled by the government like fucking commies.
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Turn on them but dont violate the NAP
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No these guys are leftist faggots

If you want to be a part of identity politics you're a collectivist bitch
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>>137208246

Yeah I know, but they didn't use to be the majority.
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>>137207918
Sorry, but this site has always been full of racism both unironic and for the sake of being provocative.

/new/ was quite literally proto /pol/ and was deleted for not being a news board but stormfront 2.0. The hardcore racism predates /pol/ and being here for a decade you should know this
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>>137208075
>Doesn't know what the NAP is while using that flag
>We just have to kill everyone that disagrees with """us"""
Get out, leftypol. No one's buying it.
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>>137205956

Remove kekistanis
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>>137205583
What happend ? And why are all the frogposters frightened and in full damage control ? Did they litereally manage to fuck up their own shit ?
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>>137208214
Yes, you'll have free movement between the states. So every time a state becomes completely pozzed by non whites they'll just abandon it and poz up your lolbert superstate.
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>>137208307
Those "kind of conditions" are why the civil war was fought in America. It wasn't due to slaves but because of state rights. The libertarians lost once but you faggots just want to roll over and accept that the federal Jews won and cannot be defeated ever again.
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>>137208266
That not working and these stupid stormfags go around openly bragging about how they go on /pol/ and how people should come here to get red pilled. Stormfags are going to kill this board
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>>137205583
Don't be faggots.
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The vast majority of violence didn't kick off until the commies showed up. It's very easy to see who the agitators were because they were carrying the red banners and came in from the left (no pun intended) on BA's stream when Millenial Matt took over. Aside from the random black dude talking his shit and trying to sell someone a picture of obama and michelle for a million dollars (fucking hilarious to be honest, sperging out alone in the street), and the two cases of bear mace before hand, none of the actual confrontations really popped off until communist agitators showed up. With this in mind, it's kind of clear who the real enemy is and only lends legitimacy to exactly what Baked Alaska and Matt were saying the whole time. They had something like 15 speakers who were approved beforehand planned for the event, they assembled peaceably, and the communists showed up to violently suppress the citizens' right to Free Speech. It's kind of clear who the real enemy of America is in that scenario.
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>>137208368
>Doesn't know shit about Nazism
>Nazis are just as bad as commies!
That's why they fought each other for two world wars, right? They're just so similar!

Even Hitler admitted National "socialism" only used the name because socialism was popular, back then. It had very little to do with actual socialism. Maybe we're both against public school but you should have at least picked up a fucking book, in your youth.
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>>137208193
We are living under a sort of nationalist socialist america right now. Do you like it? America was always best as a constitutional republic not this Marxist influential shit.
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You are a: Communist Pro-Government Multilateralist Bleeding-Heart Libertine
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>>137205583
>Should we turn on the stormfags
not yet, they're still useful for the time being. as long as they keep their retarded spergging focused on antifa and the left i don't see any reason to chase them off.
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>>137208687
Saved.
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>>137208691
It actually did have a lot to do with socialism. Nationalizing all industry is quite literally the most socialist thing you can do.
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>>137208435

The NAP does not apply to people who threaten your property.
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>>137208418

4chan was never a big part of my life and /pol/ even less so. I'm just saying I remember when it wasn't, like, 80% fashies obsessed by melanin levels.
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>>137208937

Thanks for your feedback Jean-Mohamed. Isn't it prayer time now?
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>>137208691

Soviets didn't fight Germany in WWI, and Germany wasn't natsoc. In fact, Tsarist Russia pulled out of the war because of the soviet revolution.
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>>137208790
>We are living under a sort of nationalist socialist america right now.
doubt.jpg

>Do you like it?
Would of liked it even more if George Lincoln Rockwell wasn't assassinated by the same sneaky kikes he warned us all about

>America was always best as a constitutional republic not this Marxist influential shit.
complete and utter horse shit. Nazi is an insult here, while calling someone a commie just flatters them. Why? Marxist influence in media, public schools, higher education, and more

piss off Left-libertarians
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>>137209043

What? No, the sun has been up for some time already.
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>>137205583
I'm a libertarian who likes nazis(hence the flag). Liberty is at the core of my political belief system. However I recognize that the dire state of the Western world makes it nearly impossible for libertarian beliefs to take hold. We have too many problems that need to be directly cleaned up before we can begin to embrace a more free system of governance.

The sad reality is that if we want to attain a civilization centered on liberty we're going to have to fight for it. To do that we need allies, and a lot of them. Anyone who tries to turn you against your right wing allies is just trying to fracture the movement. We tried to do it ourselves with Ron Paul. It didn't work. We need to embrace our natural allies and not turn on them. Nazis are our bros. Stormfags are our bros. Turning against them at this point would be a terrible mistake.

Do not forget for a fucking second that our primary method of destroying social justice was to make them turn on each other. It has been incredibly effective in recent years and we can NOT afford to let them do the same to us.
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>>137205583
I'll die before I disown my fucking identity.

you motherfuckers think there is another way?!
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>>137208625
Cry harder nigger
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>>137209304
>Left-libertarians

Aren't those just anarchists?
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>>137205583
Stormfags are idiots but I have no interest in fighting other right wing people, that's something retard stormfags like to do. The enemy is the communists no matter what the crypto commie spencer says. No stormfags, you don't need to attack the "alt-light" first you fucking useful idiots.
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>>137205583
I'm a non-interventionist, so I'll just standby and wait for our turn
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>>137209537
People here seriously believe they'll get their libertarian state with the help of Pablo and Tyrone not realizing that these people now make up half their country and will never support small government and right wing fiscal policy
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freedom of speech officially not allowed for whites.

the event was declared unlawful before it even began, national guard sent in a state of emergency to shut it down.

we are being stepped on.
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>>137209519
>I'm a libertarian who likes nazis

then you're a fool or a madman.
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>>137209707
Yeah you should have no interest in fighting stormfags. You should be fighting the blacks, women, and Hispanics that have allowed the welfare state to flourish.
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>>137205583
Become fascist
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>>137208860
>Actually
>Literally
You have no idea what you're talking about, kid.
>>137209208
No but they lost WW1 because the Jew Commies in Germany were trying to cause a civil war, which may have actually sparked Hitler to blame the Jews for everything.
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>>137205583
libertarianism is a losing ideology

none of the values they believe in will be upheld by the left, they aren't even relevant.
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>>137209597
no, they're positive-rights minarchists who believe in bullshit like civil rights. They damn admit it too, and stick out like a sore thumb around here. again, see >>137206799

Open-borders, inclusion, diversity, these are the hallmarks of left-libertarianism as mostly known by the "Libertarian Party", the very same with Gary Johnson. Often too degenerate even for commies, and too pussified to really do anything about their democratic-values nonsense. They know nothing of real freedom, only freedom that's convenient for them
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>>137209537
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>>137209743
>Minorities make up half the country
Again, you literally seriously actually have no fucking clue what you're talking about.
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More accurate representation of libertarian jackasses.
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>>137209743
>muh helicopter rides
they haven't figured out who's paving roads much less building helicopters or landing pads
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>>137210180
>No but they lost WW1 because the Jew Commies in Germany were trying to cause a civil war

ha, that old meme. Nothing to with the fact that they were outmanned and outgunned, no siree.
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>>137209707
Spencer isn't wrong in that tweet.
>Americucks brainwashed to believe National Socialism is bad for them by greedy jews.
>any kind of socialism, for that matter.
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>>137210180
Not an argument. Tell me now how Hitler centralizing all industry under the Nazi party is not socialism?
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>>137209519
This. I was a Ron Paul Libertarian. In the time of fools like Gary Johnson, I believe the day of Libertarianism has passed. It's white ethno-nationalism/NatSoc or nothing. The Left will keep pushing further and further Left until whites are completely gone and all that remains is a Brazil-tier shithole.

Americans can no longer help themselves. They will continue to become fat lardasses who will run up medical costs, unable to care about the preservation of their own people, and will happily hand it all over to Jamal and Pablo.

>John Adams said, "Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There was never a democracy yet that did not commit suicide."

It has to happen.
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>>137210278
>Totalitarian collectivism
>Hiding your power level in public
>Non-Aggression
>Physical Removal
I know it's just a meme but ???
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>>137210313
Le 52 percent white
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>>137205583
How about wait until tomorrow when we can here about what's happening in Charlottesville instead of escalating shit... Moop.
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>>137210476
>violate the NAP
>get hit
It's not complicated
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Never punch right.

Terrorists deserve the death penalty.
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>>137209304
We are it was a rhetorical question. Socialized medicine, welfare and housing is all product of the authoritarian socialist.
>>137209743
Indeed. Yet i believe theres no pretty way to get out of this alive.
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Libertarians are kike puppets.
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>>137205583
I'm a libertarian but getting rid of non-whites is my top priority. I'm willing to help any group that's trying to physically remove leftists
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>>137210278
you're all backstabbing (((whores)))
one day you faggots talk about being pro white / European .. the second your loyalty is required, you bitches run like fucking rats back to a coward's ideology.
muh individualism

suck a jew dick traitorous (((rats)))
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When you are a minority in your own country I'm sure those tolerant black folks will care you are libertarian
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>>137207682
Welcome newfriend. Lurk before you post nonsense, okay?
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>>137210755
No, they're just retards that can't accept the fact that shitskins are the reason they can't have nice things
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>>137205583
Fascists and Anti-Fascists need to fuck off from /pol/.
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>>137205583
We kill the commies together, then we kill the fascists.
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>all of this concern shilling and divide&conquer
It's not even subtle, holy shit.
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>>137210455
Doesn't matter if you disagree. Wasn't real socialism. Any socialist that knows what socialism is will agree.

>Centralizing all industry under the Nazi party
>Nationalizing all industry (from previous comment)
Yeah, that's NATIONAL from NATIONAL socialist. It has nothing to do with socialism. Socialism is when the people have control over the industry, not the government. You have it totally backwards.

It's when Socialism becomes Communism that people on the right warn about. That's when the people lose the control of everything and it's all taken by the government but the government claims to be the people...
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>>137206196
Seems reasonable. Most Nat-Socs want something similar we just have some different ideas how to get there. We think we will have to use force to expel those who would drag us down and feed off of us.
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>>137210818
Get fucked, nazi scum. You should be wiped off the face of the planet
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>>137210849
10+ years, on and off. Don't believe me? Don't care.
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I love that everyone thinks that people are going to change their deeply held beliefs and political ideologies from the one tragic event.

That's like the equivalent of giving up on freedom and imposing martial law after September 11.

Those who doubted their beliefs to begin with will be easily swayed. Those who are in it for be long haul, will stay. Stay calm, retreat, cool down and come back when you're ready when more information becomes available. Clear your mind.
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>>137210421
I didn't say it had nothing to do with that.
>German Empire was weak
K, now I'm starting to think you're the one memeing. While it's true they were outmanned, they had strong tactics, were clearly doing well for themselves, and were NOT outgunned.

If you want to know what I think personally ruined them, it was their arrogance and avarice. I don't claim to know everything about the war but if they had so much land and power, they should have learned when to call it quits but they actually tried to take over the entire planet like retards. They should have known better.
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>>137205583
>out their
fucking pleb
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>>137210702
Nothing to our right but the wall.
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>>137207475
>And still leaf in hiding.
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>>137211177
Look how quickly those pussies raced to be safe behind their precious Patriot Act. Those cowards practically begged to give away their freedom because they were scared of the big bad world.
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>>137209959
Nazis have solid and respectable values in tradition, history, people, culture -- all elements of a race. They may not be completely economically sound, but at least they know enough to respect some private property than to abolish it all like the commies.

I think Nazis and Right-libertarians can co-exist quite well within their own private property, compared to the communists and lefties that must be physically removed at all costs. Nazis share this same vision and as such it is natural that we work together towards the same mutually beneficial goal. I've said it once and I'll say it again, I'll say it a million times to make it clear: Right-libertarianism is soft eugenics, National Socialism is hard eugenics. The result is the same, means and time frame just different. This is what we have in common and why we work together.

>>137210994
this
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>>137205583
How about you make your own conclusion. I'll help you, Look at any non European country (Minus honorary Aryans) then ask yourself do you want to live in, have your family live in or your children inherit that, when you could have the greatest security and living standards available to a homeogenous European country. Now ask yourself if this is worth fighting for.

>inb4 but America is a state of mind

Yea and in its current form is shit and when the banks pull the plug on our debt we will be worse off than Brazil.

YOU ALL HAVE TO GO BACK
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>>137210818
Lol, me being an individualist is being a "traitor". I don't know you faggot, stop asking for GIBS because you're white. Yeah I'm pro white, but I'm not going to be your collectivist butt buddy.
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>>137208687
I hate this symbol because NatCucs need to be in the top left and Libertarian in the Bott right.
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>>137205583
Learn to adapt. It's all a game. Play the bank, not a player.
When you're doing it right, no one will know you're there.
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>>137210995
Did you just assume his political pronouns, you racist hippie fuck?
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>>137210901
What socialist nation exists where the people 'control the industry'? Go ahead, I'm waiting. Every nation on this earth that is designated as socialist has a state government that has centralized control of industry. The system of central planning and strict regulation on production in Nazi Germany really is not that different from North Korea or Venezuela.

Nazi Germany also had gnarly public benefits programs for its time. Public healthcare is something the Germans had instituted as well among other things.
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>>137205583
let them kill each other while us libertarians practice agorism and be occupied with our interests, its just a matter of time for them to realize that their just pawns, they're reacting over jewish mindgames
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>>137210995
oh my G-d
this type of evil hate speech incites violence :)
now is the time to come together and stand against your hateful ideology
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>>137206799
There are no civil rights. Only property rights.
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>>137210995
Lucky for him a pacifist cuck like you won't have the guts to do it.

What are you going to do? Militarize like the Antifa and get run over by a fucking car and then claim victory? Wow, so scary. Please, don't dive under my vehicle! I don't know if I could live with myself after that! :((

I mean, literally everyone but you is a nazi, so you've got your work cut out for you champ! Get to shitposting!
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>>137211586
Yup, him and all his goose stepping bitch boys that are too busy dutch ruddering each other to ever do anything with their lives.
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>>137211048
If its true you are blind. That is if you somehow missed the fact that /pol/ is far right for 10 years, (on and off).
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>>137211593
What nations exist that don't allow free market?

It's true that globalism and diversity it's just another way to expand the free market values?
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Reddit: The political ideology
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>>137205583
the only legitimate role of a libertarian in todays events was protecting the original event from getting stopped in the name of freedom of assembly, association, and speech. barring that, it was pretty much all of libertarians enemies hanging out in one place so if shit goes down you get some good target practice.
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>>137211796
Now you just assumed their gender like the intolerant bigot that you are. get the fuck out of here, you xenophobic bigot!
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>>137210704
>Socialized medicine, welfare and housing is all product of the authoritarian socialist.
and where does the majority of these socialized medicine, welfare and housing go to? Degenerates? Niggers? There is no discrimination as there should be

It's far from American National Socialism. It is just regular socialism, the commie socialism, because those were advocated for by the communists and not patriots
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>>137211454
Being pro white is enough for me. We don't have to agree on everything to work together. For me the survival of the people who created western civilization is paramount.
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>>137211843
Stop jumping into an argument halfway you confused retard. You're unintentionally strawmanning me because you have no idea what is going on
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>>137211843
>What nations exist that don't allow free market?
There isn't a nation on this earth where cocaine is legal, thus ALL of them.
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>>137208790
please leave and never come back
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>>137211317
nazis pretty left mate
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>>137205583
*live among squatemalans, and anti-white society*
"a-atleast i still got muh gunz!"
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>>137212202
I know what's going on, cause my country lives under constant risk because of the free market, protectionism could be the solution and could allow us to have a more orderly less crime ridden third world country, but under free market values, the corporations should do as they please and we are powerless to stop them.
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>>137211593
Typically people with the memeflag are antifa leftypol faggots. I had you wrong, maybe you do know a little bit of something.

>Comparing Norks to Nazis
You're funny. Neither is socialist but both are totalitarian. That's all you have going for you, with that comparison.

>Venezuela
There you go. That's a much better comparison, since Nazi Germany wasn't anywhere close to an economic collapse and wasn't socialist. Venezuela is weighing cash and accepting memes as a currency.

>Nazi Germany had some social benefits, so this proves they were socialists!
>Nazis had public healthcare, so they were definitely socialists!
Reaching. I already said they tried to bait people into supporting them as a "socialist" party because they were trying to ride the socialist coattails. It had very little to do with actual socialism though.

It can't be socialism if it's a nationalist totalitarian government form because it no longer has socialist values.

Idk, I've explained it the best I can for you. I suggest maybe checking wikipedia for definitions on those systems to give you a better understanding of what I'm trying to say.
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>>137205583
More drugs
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>>137211836
It didn't use to be a majority. It used to be more balanced. All I'm saying.
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>>137210818
You think people would just blindly accept big government? No people are concerned into it by ruthlessness of the collective. Nat soc is not the solution to the problem. Fascism is though so build off that but no need to go full retard. This is why the alt right will never make any serious ground and if it does it will be stomped out like Nazi germany.
>>137212163
The only aspect which keeps NatSoc authoritarian is constant conflict, In peace time your system foes full blown liberal as whats seen in Europe and what has inflected the united states.
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>>137212303
Really now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_cocaine
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>>137212172
Its not going to work. It didnt work in 1930 and like hell it will work now.
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>>137205583
Feed both echo chambers more so the commies and natsoc's kill each other off. If a winner emerged, give them a quick trial and off to the rope. We win either way!
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>>137205583
>out their
>their
Fuck off hick
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>>137205583
Don't comply with government anything.
Ever. Can't imprison everyone.
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>>137205583
ban assault cars, obviously
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>>137205583
We need to return /pol/ to the safe hands of LRG.
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>>137211454
bitch you HIDE behind muh individualism only when it benefits you.

>muh gibs
National Socialists worked and were rewarded not the (((capitalists))).

I don't want your fucking taxes
I don't need your fucking SNAKES loyalty
So don't ever claim my people's race if you will not defend it every second of your life

that (((driver))) was a jew infiltrator (mom's last name was Bloom and maiden name is Meyer) at least we know who stands with us when it matters.

hopefully your shitty helicopters don't crash like the 2 feds did today.
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>>137212595
>We're powerless to stop the big evil corporations!
Stop buying from them. Shop elsewhere. Form your own, small companies to counter them.
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>>137212645
I would definitely concur with that sentiment. Especially the time period before Obama was elected.
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>>137208075
>You forget that some people don't want to apply the same philosophy to you
It's irrelevant. You do good - what other people do doesn't matter. They can burn in hell.
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>>137208435
If a couple people with guns just outside your property line are yelling about how they hate you and your family and want to kill you, I think you might be justified in shooting first. If a large group of people are forming in the streets and say how they want to kill all white people, and take away their property, I think we might be justified in shooting first.
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>>137205583
I hope you do turn on them so they'll throw you into the gas chambers.
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kill yourselves
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>>137206196
National (((socialists)))
YOu fucking kikes! You won't get away with this, you will hang with the commie faggots!
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>>137212697
>The only aspect which keeps NatSoc authoritarian is constant conflict
...against communists!

>In peace time your system foes full blown liberal as whats seen in Europe and what has inflected the united states.
except American National Socialism as advocated by George Lincoln Rockwell explicitly defends private property if you actually read
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>>137205583
Denounce the stormfags. They are what is making everybody from center right bad.
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>>137212972
Are you serious?

How the fuck do we stop a mining operation that's destroying the glaciars?
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>>137213128
Noice!
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>>137212800
Enjoy your future.
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>>137213149
>Caring how centrist look
lol
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>>137205583
Most libertarians work off the NAP model as far as I can tell. That permits aggression as response to other aggression.

So you'd be able to assemble on public land or private land with permission, and if someone such as Antifa started violence then you'd be able to defend yourself.

Libertarianism doesn't require everyone to be peaceful to work, there's mechanisms for resolving aggression and disputes.
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>>137210202
Top kek.

>>137210894
You are deluded if you think fascists are YOUR useful idiots, you've got that the other way around. By keeping a retinue of you around, liberals cannot rightfully claim to be intolerant of the "new right" movement, you're being used as an ideological blur/as a shield but you're too fucking dense to recognize that.
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>>137213105
>Tankies/Stalinists/NazBols voted Trump.
Can confirm. I voted for him.
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>>137212772
And on that list...
Where is cocaine completely legal?
Sure, simple possession is legal in the rare place. But not sale, making possession a moot point.
What country allows the sale of cocaine, unhindered completely? NONE. Thus, no country has an actual free market. Every country sees fit to get its nose into the sale of goods or services in some way, because "live and let live" disturbs control freaks.
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>>137205583
...............
POL GET IN HERE OPERATION DEATH BLOW IS IN FULL EFFECT YOUR FUHRER CALLS ON YOU! FIGHT BACK NOW GODDAMN IT STAND UP AND FIGHT!
>>137188374
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmGqG3grTrg

FIGHT GODDAMN IT FIGHT NOW! EXPOSE THIS KIKE!
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>>137213128
>I don't actually know what National Socialism actually is but they say it must be like communism even though they fucking hated each other: the post

retard
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>>137213156
I bet you think global warming is a man made phenomena and not the natural cycle of our planet too
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>>137213262
Fuck that's cringe.
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America is founded on libertarian principles. We've been corrupted by lite socialists and Jews.
That being said, Communism and Nazism are un-American ideas. You have your right to free speech and believe whatever you want, but once you try to force your shit onto our nation and get violent about it you are gonna get whacked.
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>>137213229
Fuck national (((socialists))) and fuck communists. America will never be nazi and America will never be commie, fuck off and die storm faggots. Hitler lost because brave Americans forced him to kill himself like a bitch.
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>>137213320
>says Antifa/Anarchist, the "anti-government" pawn of pro-goverment communists

the irony is staggering
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>>137213514
Both of those are better than your faggy liberal alternative.
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>>137212606
What are these socialist values you speak of? You have an extremely narrow and strict definition of socialism. Yes the Norks are definitely socialist you fuckwad. Socialism is a fiscal policy. It is not dependent on anti-totalitarianism you retard. In fact, by nature socialist countries are more authoritarian than more capitalist ones.

You even contradict yourself because you state Venezuela is socialist yet you claim that socialism cannot be totalitarian in nature, yet Venezuela is literally controlled by a dictator.

Yes, Venezuela, North Korea, Sweden, Norway, Nazi Germany, and the USSR are all socialist nations instituted in differing capacities.

>reaching
Here's an even bigger list of Nazi Germany's leftist fiscal policy.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_People%27s_Welfare

Your definition of socialism is retarded. Heavy communal control of industry and commerce is socialism. That's what it has always meant. I'm sorry if it upsets you that Nazi Germany was a socialist nation
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As a libertarian we should focus on one central issue:

Stopping the communist by any means necessary (except initiating violence as per our contact).
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>>137213380
National (((socialism))) it's in the fucking name you faggot kike. It's in the fucking name! are you that fucking stupid?
>hurr durr we're national (((socialists))) but we're not really (((socialists)))
fucking kike tactics to the max!
YOU WILL NEVER WIN, AMERICA IS NOT (((NAZI))) AMERICA IS NOT (((COMMIE)))

NAZIS AND COMMIES ARE THE SAME COIN
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>>137213459
This. We have our own way of dealing with pinkos and our way has worked out more successful than the European "Nationalist" way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h11uEvGc7u8

Japan though. They do it best. No muss or fuss.
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>>137213611
not a liberal but a conservative you kike (((socialist))) libshit
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"extreme" wind of libertarianism here. AnCap or Anarcho Capitalist. Yes, we follow the NAP but will use violence in defense. Antifa is our enemy. Ancom is cancer. But the Alt Right can go fuck itself.
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>>137212448
Individual still serves the collective. Ultimate problem with that is you can become the fabled useless eater, plus extra taxes would suck.
>>137213144
T A X E S
>>137213262
I know but theres nowhere else to run. Well space. Libertarians will colonize to space to escape the barbarians watch!
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>>137213410
The fuckers mined under the glaciar, we have plenty of evidence of such but our goverment it's powerless to stop it cause the mining operation belongs to mr rockefeller.
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>>137213066
>using fear tactics to appeal to my sensibilities
No. Shooting them is only justified if they cross into your property or try to physically harm you.

Calling the police is justified, though.

A man standing in another man's personal space isn't violent but it can be considered aggressive. It's once that aggression becomes violence (physical altercations) that murder becomes justified in self defense. Don't try mudding up the law with emotions and weak justifications.
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>>137205583
How is it even a question?

Fuck them, fuck their ideology.
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>>137213128
>You won't get away with this
>This
What did he mean by "this"?
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>>137213563
What unhinged lunacy is this? Can you point me to your sources so that I can laugh at you even more?
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>>137213795
You're a liberal. You're just a liberal that wants to conserve an older form of liberalism. That's literally what a conservative is. You don't offer new solutions you just want to go back in a time when things were perceived as better.
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These stormfaggots have a right to have their voices heard and peacefully assembly.

They ars disgusting, but their speech is protected by the first amendment.

As is that of the antifaggots.

The trouble comes whe these idiots start making actual threats and assaults. Both sides are guilty. Botb sides are being played to make America more of a police state.
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>>137213514
These types of comments still hearken back to the mainstream thought where people freak out at the thought of "muh Nazis". OH NO NOT THE NAZIS, THEY WERE EBIL. HITLER WAS BAD

There's no fucking argument against it. It's just your brainwashing coming right out. The Jews have been working pretty hard on that since 1945, and did a bang up job of it.
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The nazis and the commies in america are a minority and they will never win. America is America. Not National (((socialism))) not (((communism)))

(((nazis))) can go fuck themselves and same with libfaggot communists. THe majority of people that voted trump are just like me, conservative AMericans.
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>>137213722
the only problem is that is pretty much a fool's errand. you can't stop communists you can only slow them down. Our country grows more economically authoritarian every year. The only solution we know of is going 1776 on people's asses and writing a more specific constitution that they can't monkey around with as easily.
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>>137213156
>Upset about the glaciers
The fuck is your problem? And yes I'm serious. If your life is so comfy that you're worried about the glaciers, you're privileged enough to fly out there and protest them. Maybe throw money at a "go fund me" somewhere, if it makes you feel better and forget about it...
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>>137206196
>NatSocs respect private property than Communists
suuuuuure they do
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>>137214066
Are you autistic
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>>137213734
m8 I'm a Right-libertarian, I am just sick of these lefty-libertarians that tolerate negligently communists

also

>calling other people kikes
>using ((())) marks without knowing what it means
>but I am also not a Nazi

it's like you don't even understand what you're saying
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>>137213861
...So? We're coming out of an ice right now. We're in what's called an "interglacial stage". Eventually, all but the hardiest glaciers are going to melt. And then something will happen like a meteor impact or VEI-8 eruption that'll reinstate a full ice-age, killing off about 95% of humanity.

And there's NO WAY at all it's even remotely possible to thwart this. Nature always gets what it wants, you little piss.
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>>137213835
Space, the final frontier. I sure hope so. I wish the best for all my fellow white folks, even if we disagree.
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>>137210818
Racism is the lowest, most crudely primitive form of collectivism. It is the notion of ascribing moral, social or political significance to a man's genetic lineage.
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>>137214064
No fuck the jews too, I'm a american conservative, the same kind that fought against the nazis. SEE YOU"RE NO DIFFERENT THAN ANTIFA HURR DURR IF U AINT NAZI YOUR A JEW. fuck yourself kike faggot. I'm a murican conservative not nazi not commie not libshit. but the same kind that voted trump
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>>137214066
>a minority
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>>137213835
>using the Taxes argument on National Socialists

I never said they were complete Libertarians either dumbass. But I would rather a tax than no fucking private property at all, which was the whole point
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>>137214130
> If your life is so comfy that you're worried about the glaciers

No my life isn't comfy I live in the desert and we needed that fucking water.
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>>137211317
Nice meme you got hiding there.
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>>137213985
>Antifa doesn't benefit communists

I'm already laughing at you m8
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>>137214268
Yeah, we've sure got a lot to fear from backwood hicks who's only achievement in life is a job at a factory somewhere.

Keep it up Nazis, it'll be fun to see the rest of the country rip you apart.
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>>137205583

It was two extremists facing off to see who can be the most retarded. The alt-right finally won a round. GJ Alt-right, you took a war we were winning and gave the other side momentum. Fuck the stormfags for their douchery.

You really thought a tiki torch vigil under a confederate statue was going to turn out good for you? The second I saw that dumb poster I cringed. Really guys, GJ defeating yourselves here.
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>>137205583
Libertarian/=open borders
You can be a white nationalist and a libertarian m8.
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>>137214149
If you're waging a race war on a people, aren't you typically excluding them from civic life?
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>>137205788

So do the antifa ones. Both groups are dumb as fucking hell. The rest of us trump or not don't really want any affiliation with these fags
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As a libertarian I'm also concerned about the Zionist occupied government and really don't mind if an anti-Semitic culture can rise up enough to chip away the ZOG even a little. Just enough to stop US support to Israel maybe.
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>>137214149
Communists and Jews don't count
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>>137205583
Honestly OP I think Libertarians as a whole should come together to say we respect these peoples right to be proud of being European, be we reject and the racist doctrine of the Alt -Right and leaders. because that racist doctrine will become future physical harm to Americans. Its such a shame that people nowadays can't be proud of who they are without hating others.
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>>137213320
>You are deluded if you think fascists are YOUR useful idiots, you've got that the other way around
Fascists are a small minority compared to the libertarians. They will be destroyed when their use has been expended.
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>>137213671
>Norks are socialists
No, they're commies. Socialism cares about its people, or at least pretends to, through social programs. No such programs exist in North Korea. In fact, many MANY people are homeless, in prison, killed, or starving because of the awful one party totalitarian communist government residing in North Korea.

Do you think the Norks are actually a Republic too? I mean, they SAY they are, so it must be true, right? That's the same justification you're using for National SOCIALISM anyways.

>I contradicted myself
I didn't. I even said it's when socialism becomes communism that the people lose all power. That's exactly what is happening to Venezuela now. The people trusted the government to keep all the programs in the power of the people and the government swept up all the power for itself and there was nothing the people could do about it. As I said, this is why the right warns about socialism - it's too fragile and easily taken advantage of and ALWAYS leads to... wait for it... COMMUNISM.

>Still asserting Germany was actually socialist
Hard headed, I'll give you that.
>Ur retarded
What was it you said earlier?
That's right. "Not an argument."
>Faux compassion
>Being this arrogant because you pasted a wiki link
lol ok, nice work on reading a single wiki page. Now read the other one that explains what socialism is.
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>>137214268
Its was 600 people something like that, this all happened 30-40 years ago with Tom Meztger. Its normal.
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>>137214551
I wouldn't even necessarily call myself a Nazi. I prefer the term "Social Nationalist" over "National Socialist". I'd also like the point out that those "backwoods hicks" make up a good portion of Americas working middle class. i.e. the class of people with the most money and resources (aside from the super rich) to actually start and sustain a revolution.
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>>137214239
>It is the notion of ascribing moral, social or political significance to a man's genetic lineage.

No. What it IS, you little shit, is recognizing that SOME groups have different stats than other groups.
Just like chihuahuas cannot compete with greyhounds in racing and greyhounds can't herd sheep like shepherds.

You dumb shit. Genes are the foundation for everything you are, right down to how you smell and what gait you use when you walk.

You fucking leftists...
For a group of mongs who claim to value science you sure as shit love to show how ignorant you are of it.

Here. Some science.
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>>137214239
>muh talking points.
we'll see in 5 years
lmao at all these current year memes
>muh grandpa didn't kilt no nasis so dey be 2017
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>>137214543
Well argued friend. Maybe one of these days, you'll realize your ideology of betraying classically liberal values to further the interests of classically liberal values is misguided and fundamentally stupid?
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>>137214379
You're going to get mad at me but this was the best I could come up with on such short notice. I legit hope this helps.
http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Water-in-the-Desert
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>>137214827
I'd say it was closer to about 800-1000. The difference between now and then is that people have the internet which makes it much easier for these sorts of movements to spread information and propaganda. Not to mention, the economic and social climate has drastically changed. I think this is just the beginning.
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>>137214963
>ur idea is stupid and dumb

the absolute STATE of antifa/anarchist non-arguments
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>>137214963
>betraying classically liberal values
Like what?
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>>137214970
I really hope it worked but dryest desert in the world and shit.
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>>137207132

Oh shit we don't overreact to everything? Oh no. How ever can we turn 1 death into 100,000? I know! Let's not accept evil is a part of life and turn good into evil to get rid of evil.

Just leave us the fuck alone. That's all we want. If I ain't hurting you get the fuck lost or I will. Sorry that policy makes you cry because I wont fight your battles for you.
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>>137214829
It don't see it anon, this was just 600 white folk who came up and got attacked by government and opposition, I said this earlier o a different form. the HIGHT of white pride movements in America was David Duke being elected to the house. They don't even have candidates, and plus 3 people died and 19 injured this will be spun in there direction. I saw some lifestreams of the local Charlottesville people disliking the fact that they brought this to there doorstep.
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Or maybe a 800-1000 like you said
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>>137215149
You've made a claim, I simply asked you to back it up and you've failed to do so.
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>>137215242
So....
Why live there? Are you a masochist? Or are you after that sweet sweet nitrate? Making bombs?
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>>137215403
it's self-evident ya clueless pinko, don't you read your own books?

>inb4I need sources for my own books!
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>>137214837
>Same guy that claimed cocaine is illegal in ALL countries on the planet
>Arguing Neutotransmitters
Anon, I respect your arguments despite disagreeing, but I think you might be out of your league here. You're posting twitter memes now.
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>>137214760
North Korea does in fact have loads of social programs. But they're a failed state so naturally they're largely ineffective. So yes, they're socialist, but a poor implementation of it.

The people of Venezuela never had power. Their leaders have been covert dictators since the beginning. All of their elections have been rigged since Chavez gained power.

I like the 'faux compassion' bit. I don't know how that's relevant at all.


Now give me your warped definition of socialism, since apparently you have such a strict definition of it to keep your precious hitler from falling under the label
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>>137214829
You can call a piece of shit a snickers bar, but it's still a piece of shit.

And I remember something from school about this big war America had where racist white people tried to rebel. It didn't end well for the pieces of shit.

If you seriously think that the government, besides a few standouts who will be taken down too, would allow a revolt to be sustained then you're pretty fucking delusional.
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>>137205583
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>>137215519
I was born there, I have my family there and I have land there.
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>>137205583
If they don't fuck with us, we don't fuck with them. Simple as that.
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>>137215556
You can't reason with the know-it-all useful idiots, bro. He has no idea how retarded he's being and calling him retarded and laughing at him is only confusing to him. He'll either figure it out and laugh at how stupid he was or he'll become a hero by diving under a white man's car to claim immortal victim status.
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>>137215582
I know pharmacology quite well actually.
Drugs are mostly boogeymen. Except opioids. Those genuinely scare me.

Coke? Good shit. Just make sure you're healthy before doing a bump. Treat her like a lady and she'll give you an amazing night.
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>>137208075
>Fallacy.

No such thing if you are a Libertarian.

Just stay the fuck off my land.
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>>137215737
At what point do you consider it "fucking with us"? If it turns out to be an intentional act, would you count as a terrorist attack?

It's oddly ironic that nazis would use the same style of attack that they've been in such an uproar for a while now.
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>>137205583
Only right wing females should be Libertarian, kill yourselves.
I would sooner defend stormwiggers.
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>>137215300
I still disagree but I guess we'll just have to wait and see. I honestly think things are going to get more extreme all around. Especially once the dollar bubble collapses and the U.S. empire begins to fade into the history books.
>>137215621
>You can call a piece of shit a snickers bar, but it's still a piece of shit.
Nice ad-hom.
>And I remember something from school about this big war America had where racist white people tried to rebel. It didn't end well for the pieces of shit.
>from school
Underage detected. Also, at least post the fucking war instead of giving anecdotes.
>If you seriously think that the government, besides a few standouts who will be taken down too, would allow a revolt to be sustained then you're pretty fucking delusional.
You're delusional if you don't think the United States is on it's last legs. We're being kicked around by fucking North Korea for fucks sake. Not to mention, China and Russia are more than capable of challenging us on the world stage. It's like I was telling the other anon. When it becomes obvious that the cracks are showing in U.S. global dominance it's all going to come crashing down and that's when things are going to continue to get more unstable.
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>>137215205

See

>>137215625

>>137215556
Actually, I'd like to see you make a good faith attempt.
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>>137215728
>land
What value does it have? Nitrates? The Atacama seems utterly worthless otherwise. I'd bail. Sell off and find a smaller but nicer plat to work. Chile has some beautiful country to own. Why stay in the desert? Traditions aren't always good my friend. Bloodletting for example.
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>>137216036
and I'd like to see you have some sense of self-awareness for once, but we both aren't going to get either tonight
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>>137215300
>I saw some lifestreams of the local Charlottesville people disliking the fact that they brought this to there doorstep.
You must be talking about the antifa agitators and communists who were being bussed in by the dozens. I'm sure the Charlottesville people totally appreciated that when they were the ones who kicked off the violence to begin with.
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>>137215957
Dont you get it by now ?
Its the fucking same.(((they))) get rich either way. Only way to stand up to this is not by choosing sides but by quitting the whole game entirely
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>>137216036
Communists do not fall under the protection of the NAP, as their very existence is dedicated to the enslavement of humanity under a tyrannical system.
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>>137205583
>turn on
fascists should never be your friends to begin with
they are mostly useful for dragging out authoritarian leftists so you can publicly ruin them before they can obtain/utilize power
if you they seemed like more than that then you have made poor choices in the defense of liberty
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>>137216165
So, basically you have nothing but conspiracy theories and vague intuitions?
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>>137214604
>waging war on your own non-violent civilians
How libertarian
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>>137216028
See I hate that though, the whole we have to wait for America to collapse that can take generations.
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>>137207071
This kids dick is huge.
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>>137209743
Hence why I live away from most of society and stay off the grid as much as possible.
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>>137216284
This nigga gets it.

Their existence breaks the NAP pretty much because their goal is to strip me of my freedom and liberties.
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>>137216323
so you admit your books are conspiracy theories are vague intuitions? Lordy lordy, well I guess you did develop some self-awareness after all
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>>137216284
According to a Rothbardian interpretation of the NAP? But it wasn't just "communists" or any other positive-freedom equity radicals being killed by Pinochet was it? A lot of leftists lumped under that rubric were killed, not to mention the suspension of human rights.
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>>137216028
Nah, dry sarcasm that doesn't translate. But the Civil War, it was a big deal. While the south claim to start it over economic reasons and the right to do what they want, it boils down to being able to own another human being that they consider inferior.

And I think the US Government was set up well enough to be able to handle a situation like this. And I have faith that at least 95% of the elected government would stay with their country.

For being 'nationalist', Nazis sure as shit don't care about their nation.
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>>137216104
Besides nitrate there's lithium, molybdenum and more, there's no reason to not hold to it, besides when there's water the place it's lovely.
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>>137216353
I think it will be sooner than we think. Probably within the next 20 to 30 years. Especially since it's been going on since the post Soviet era and arguably since the end of the Vietnam war.
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People need guidance, look at them. Look at this cancer individualism that is infecting every nook and cranny of burgerland. "Her derrrr, I wanna be a rapper!" "Herrrr dee derrrr, I wanna be an instagram model!" "I'm too talented to work like everyone else, derrrr derrrrr" NO

We need STRICT schooling, that applies to your day to day life, and your future career. Everyone should serve in the military unless they are able to prove themselves useful otherwise, in which case they might be needed for special positions in the military anyway. Women will go to separate schools where they learn how to properly raise a family. There will be no more degeneracy, everyone will be assigned a position based off of their merits and abilities. "Heeerrrrr derrrr, my individuality and freedom of choice!" Oh my god it's adorable.... get in the gas chamber right now sweetie.

Fascism is the only way. You are welcome.

The NEETS here should be begging for fascism more than anyone else, you will finally get that strong male role model you have been yearning for to set your life straight. As for the people who are already thriving in this broken system, assuming you got where you are based off of merit and not cronyism and nepotism, you will still rise to the top.

No more worries about what you are going to do, everything will be taken care of. You will value your free time more than you could ever imagine, because it will be earned, and scheduled. We will learn to put the good of our nation above all else, we will learn to be a PROUD, STRONG nation. Everyone will have their place, and everyone will have the opportunity to grow and rise.

STRENGTH AND HONOR COMRADES.
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>>137216489
Well, seeing how I'm still waiting for you to actually mention any real ideas or philosophy...
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>>137216173
The people there just wanted nothing to do with any of it on either side, they want to be left alone like a lot of folks in America, idk I agree with anon though that we must wait for the total collapse of the US, the population are the ones that choose when these happenings take place, and right now 99.5% of people are to busy going to work and putting food on the table.
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>>137216284
this is basically words are violence shit
you are a cancer
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>>137215616
>They have social programs!
>So what if they don't actually work or do anything!
>They're socialist!
You're still missing the point I was trying to make. You can call it a cat but unless it actually IS a cat, it's not a cat. Sorry to derail but.. do you respect transgender preferred pronouns? Because that's all that you're doing here.
"They said it was just a really big clit, so it's a really big clit. Not gay"
>How is the faux compassion bit relevant
It wasn't meant to be relevant. I was only pointing out, through personal comment, that I noticed you cocky behavior for posting a wikipedia link lol As if that were the end all, be all, for you.

I already explained what socialism is and suggested you read up on it, on wikipedia, if you don't already know. I'm not spoonfeeding you. I will tell you that I'm *trying* to use a socialists definition of socialism. I disagree with socialism but everything I've said has been backed by over 50 other self-declared socialists. Saying that is pointless, though, since you've already decided I'm wrong.

You know, I don't believe in socialism. I think it's a weak and fragile system and even said I think it ALWAYS leads to communism because of how easily exploited it is. I'm not even sure why we're arguing anymore, since it feels like you're more caught up in "how I define something" rather than our original argument, Was Nazi Germany actually Socialist or in name only?

Either way, I'm gonna back out. Consider it a victory or whatever, if that makes you feel better. I was only trying to get you to consider that maybe, just maybe, they were full of shit and trying to trick people to become popular.

It's not uncommon for a party to claim they have "10,000 members and growing!" and be totally full of shit. bandwagon approach, peer pressure, (whatever you want to call it) is a strong motivator.
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>>137215957
Claiming my property as theirs, taking my weapons, my wealth, drafting me; shit like that. I see them as no different than Communists.
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>>137216592
Maybe only time will tell, first we must see about second trump term or will there a more based candidate that can expand on trump polices.
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>>137205583
All Nat Socs and most Fashies need to be Long-Knife'd. They are dangerous and make the rest of us look bad. Luckily, 90% of them are either LARPers or Meth heads.
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>>137215877
>Coke is fine
So you're hooked on coke then. When was your last hit? Still antsy for another?

Anon, you're really starting to worry me. I'm not against you doing drugs but you seem to have an addictive personality and seem to be self-enabling here.
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>>137216673
If commies used nothing but words, you might have a point. As it stands right now, they consistently use violence, even when their chances of success are zero.

>>137216493
I don't support EVERYTHING that Pinochet did, but I do acknowledge him as an overall force for good in his nation.
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>>137216767
I don't think anyone can really save the U.S. to be honest. With that said, it should probably be welcomed because with the current trajectory of the U.S. the longer it exists in it's current form the more it's going to decay. Degeneracy is essentially a symptom of decay.
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>>137216624
>I don't know my own ideology's most influential writers

I knew you lefties were illiterate, but this is ridiculous
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>>137216567
Well, hold on then. But realize this. You live in a desert. Do not even expect water. Especially not in the desert of all deserts.

PS: I'm an American. Shocked one of us might know so much about geography? Not all of us are idiots.
Good luck, and don't hate the mining company too much. Mining is one of the vertebrae making up the backbone of humanity. Destructive as it often is. Nothing is ever gotten without a cost. That is a fact of this universe that cannot be changed. Yin and Yang are absolute. Do the best with what you got, and think of ways to do it better and importantly, efficiently.
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Don't let commie and fascist scum take our markets, speech, and guns
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>>137216917
Yeah all we candy for now is say we shall see and do our best.
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>>137217044
That last one sounds pretty good though top kek
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>>137205583
I say help them in the sense we support them online but not on the streets. Personally just for the sheer fact that i hate the left more so than them. And with how autistic the left likes to screech i just do it for the sheer enjoyment of tears. I 'll say white lives matter online etc. I don't give a fuck at this point; anytime i look at the left i see nothing but bullshit. But other right leaning libertarians can do as they please.
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>>137216986
>YOU'RE JUST A PAWN OF THE COMMIES

Okay, I genuinely want to hear your hot take

>N.NOT AN ARGUMENT.
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>>137217096
Fair enough.
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>>137217223
You wouldn't need my "hot take" if you actually read and knew what you were talking about

no spoonfeeding, do your own homework faggot
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>>137216874
>hooked on coke
lolno

Meth and pyros are my demons. And the occasional trips. Don't do downers except some light drinking on comedowns. Haven't been spun in a couple weeks. Last drug was propylhexedrine. Good shit. Close to meth in effects in my case, but LEGAL. Huzzah. Makes for a couple days of intense Castlevania.

That's muh hobby. Getting spun up and playing retro for days on end. When I can get time off work.
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>>137217216
I will say this about you libertarians, you guys are consistent and an-caps like Michael Malice are right when he mentions that libertarians are closer to fascists than most of you would like to admit.
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>>137216986
>>137217044

damn some dank meems dropped in this thread.
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>>137213874
>calling the police is justified
That's just calling another group of people with guns to exercise force for you, there is no difference.
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>>137207682
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>>137205583
Cuckservatives and leftists as usual are opportunists exaggerating the situation. I'm a civic nationalist, but even I feel bad for ethnonationlists who just had a peaceful rally ruined by one guy.
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>>137206196
>NatSocs respect private property than Communists
Holy shit, converting right now. Also, SPAM tastes better than shit, so I would buy a couple of cans right now.
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>>137217194
It is my friend. It's true freedom. Freedom for fears. You become one with time and space and realize what you really are: The universe's avatar of change and evolution through the ages.

The true nature of god? It wants to meet you and learn what you have learned. Why else create a universe but to explore that universe's change? A higher power would not be so petty and infantile as to act in a way which monotheists tend to believe it does. It does god a great disservice to think of it as some kind of petty overlord.
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Step one for fixing our Governments and setting Society and the direction of our countries on the right track:
The Step - Take away Women's Privilege to Vote.
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>>137217362
So long as you don't rely on them, I guess. I'd feel bad if you couldn't enjoy life without them. I mean, I don't even know you but knowing there are people like that in the world.. of course I'd feel bad.

So long as you're enjoying life, I suppose. Enjoy it while you have it, and all that.

Take care, dude. It was nice shooting the shit with you.

>>137217545
The difference is the police aren't going to get in trouble, if they shoot someone outside of your property lol You stay within your rights as a citizen and take no responsibility on their lives. It's a win-win. Not sure why anyone would refuse to call the police, in such a situation. Wouldn't you want backup, if people were threatening to kill you? Seems like a no-brainer to me.
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>>137217979
That would fix many things, but not gonna happen any time soon.
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>>137213105
>vast majority of electorate is fucked up
>surprised when government is bloated and ineffective and its citizens are stupid

just because the majority votes a certain way doesn't mean its a good thing. You pull a voter off the streets in the US, 9 times out of 10 they wont even know the three branches of federal government , let alone the federalist papers or basic/intermediate economics.
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>>137217747
I agree, makes sense but more philosophy needs to be looked at first
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>>137218170
Don't forget about illegals being allowed to vote in liberal states. No ID or registration required. Vote as many times as you like! The sky's the limit! Post about it on facebook and we won't even fine or arrest you for breaking the law! XD
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>>137217044
The desert it's a delicate ecosystem and the permafrost of the andes mountains gave us a couple of stable rivers, Barrick-gold (owned by Rockefeller) excavations did a great damage to that ecosystem and for that I can't support his enterprises.
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>>137218014
It's 100% recreational for me. Just a way to eek out speed and states of mind in the brain not normally accessible.

Stims are fine stuff, but it takes some care and patience, and above all, intelligence, to properly use and appreciate them.

Funny enough, I've actually become a more positive and calm person since kicking my use of stims up a notch. I mostly stick with a-PHP, ethyl-hex, and 2-FMA(for more functional use).
And of course good ol' caffeine.

Propylhexedrine, while legal, is also pricey as shit, so I limit how much of that I'm willing to buy, at $5 per 250mg. Amazing that such a nice tweaking agent is this easy to get.

Good evening as well. Always look forward, never say die.
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>>137217370
>libertarians are closer to fascists than most of you would like to admit
How so? Other than killing commies, we're very different from each other (at least in methods).
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>>137205583

Probably another shill thread. Sage goes to all fields.

Nazis are ok, one of the top quality posters on this board actually, unlike leafs, aussies, commies, blm, anarchists, lgbt, kekistanis and other degenerates on this board. The one who protested or were at the protest could've been antifa larping as nazis.
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>>137218353
illegals are only a small part of the blame, the cuase for them are the dummys who's irresponsible votes caused an influx of undocumented immigrants. The root problem is irresponsible american voters. That is the political challenge of our generation, to fix these toxic progressives. Though it seems daunting looking at histories record we now live in the digital age. If instant communication and sharing of information doesn't help then not much more will I think.
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>>137219050
There is no "probably". It IS a shill thread, and they're left-libertarian shills from cripple chan. see >>137206044
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Fascism was monstrous; but not because of muh racism, not because of muh state-controlled economy, and not because of muh anti-Semitism.

It was monstrous for one reason: because it was expansionist. Both holocaust deniers and mainstream historians agree that the number of German Jews killed was almost certainly under 200k*. Everyone agrees that the number of Slavic deaths was probably higher than the number of Jewish deaths. Everyone agrees that the invasion of Poland forced England and France to declare war on Germany. Everyone agrees that pre-war Germany had an entire government department dedicated to peacefully deporting Jews**.

Lebensraum and spazio vitale are monstrous because they inherently require unending conflict. What should be done with Spencer and friends depends on whether they want to be left alone, whether they have a viable plan to be left alone, and whether they won't turn around and start raiding across the border between Whiteistan and Blackia.

* The mainstream view being that the majority of deaths occurred in Poland to Polish Jews, and the stormfag view being that few or no deaths occurred.

** Mostly so it could take all their shit, but poverty is better than death.
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>>137218484
Gold IS vital though, and it's getting harder and harder to find, as it's only made inside of stars and only arrives here aboard meteors.

Asteroid mining would be one of the greatest solutions ever for our own environment, and only the market can really make this a possibility.
It's never easy to meet our advanced existence. We have technology and cultures, but at the expense of our environment, and there's no easy or efficient way, currently, around this.

It's not a simple "us v. them" situation like leftists would have us believe. It never is that simple and that's why their political systems always fail and take out many lives along the way.
People just can't grasp shit right.

It's like our prison system up here. Utterly retarded. You don't stick a man with possible mental illness into such a violent and stressful place, then release him(EVER) back out into society without the potential for serious problems. The brain just doesn't switch on and off like that.
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>>137218584
Fascism, in a nutshell, is the wielding of the bourgeois state in order to crush the progressive elements of liberalism (e.g., capitalism’s inherent tendency toward globalization and the destruction of feudal relations), replacing liberal capitalism with an authoritarian capitalism that embraces capitalism’s most reactionary elements.

Fascists seek to return to a capitalism unblemished by liberalism, one that wholeheartedly embraces its roots in white supremacy (or, in the case of India, Hindu supremacy) and patriarchal right, in which white men can exercise their “superiority” and face no resistance from more highly skilled immigrant workers, from better educated women, from exploited laborers in the Global South who will do the same work just as well for significantly less pay.

The notion that libertarians are actually, in principle, opposed to state tyranny rests perilously on a false presumption.

In US reality, actually existing libertarianism similarly opposes the progressive elements of liberalism enforced by the bourgeois state. The hatred of both the fascists and actually existing libertarians is ultimately directed at the bourgeoisie, not the bourgeois state, because the former is the defender of liberalism.

The means by which this phenomenon works itself out differs, but produces the same results.

Fascists hate the bourgeoisie because it is imposing liberalism upon the masses, while libertarians hate the bourgeoisie simply because it is imposing something on capital — yet, at the end of the day, both hate the bourgeoisie, even if for distinct reasons.

More basically, then, from a pragmatic perspective, libertarian ideology conveniently grants the fascist just the alibi they need. A fascist can justify their desire for a segregated, white-only community with an appeal to libertarian principles (“It’s our right to do so; if you try to stop us it’s aggression, force, tyranny”).
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>>137208687
The beauty of /pol/ isnt that these ideologies are compatible ( they are not )

Its one of the few place's where you KNOW there are differing ideas and thought processes , yet that constant non stop clash of ideas is dealt with because that is the ENVIRONMENT we are in. So Ideas that are held in high regard aren't won only on what color stripe is presenting them but rather what that post contributes.

Sad that many people on 4chan have built an instant knee jerk reflex against /pol/ because it makes them uncomfortable when thats EXACTLY how true thought out ideals come to light and better understandings of the world come to be.
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