since we need a new ideology now

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>>137150099
this one is acceptable too

>>137150099
Ive always been in favor of a Catholic monarchy. I could settle for right wing fascist style government. I could also deal with a white republic.

The problem is that monarchy is going to require a total collapse of civilization.

A fascist government will require a bloody revolution. So as of now, a white supporting republic is probably the easiest to obtain.

That being said capitalism is degenerate and should be curtailed in some ways. Good start would be to eliminate the Jewish power base by making usury illegal

>>137150099
way ahead of you there, m8.

>>137151055
isnt prince charles a muzzie tho?

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>>137150099
>>137150186
Did not wait for you

>>137152029
“The pure reactionary is not a dreamer of abolished pasts, but a hunter of holy shadows upon eternal hills.”

based

>>137150099
Monarchist, of course. There is no better system, why else did the monarchies of Europe outlast anything else that's ever been tried?

the ultimate red pilled ideology is transhumanism. Still waiting for my flag

>>137153630
>transhumanism
>redpilled

reddit plz

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Unironic traditionalist monarchist /pol/ could be a quite interesting sight, I have to say.

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>>137150186

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IF YOU BITE AND DON'T BARK
JOIN THE MONARCH

>>137150732
What's appealing to you about being subjected to the absolute rule of an unelected and unaccountable monarch who claims to be the mouthpiece of God?

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How are you going to be a Monarchist if you live in a country without a monarchy? Laughable. Pic related is my beautiful smug Queen.

>>137150186
Top

>>137150099
It's best not to get emotionally attached to economic systems or political ideologies. You should develop a narrative model to help explain human behavior, not to build castles in the sky, but instead to inform your own engagement with the world. Focus on putting your own house in order and building connections with people you can trust. This will change the world, but not quite in the way you will be able to anticipate. The direction of history isn't planned by anybody, not even the elites, most of whom are just riding a wave of variables they themselves can't control.

>>137154846
Good fuckin' post

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Virtue comes from the wild
high culture only produces anti-culture such as nihilism and moral relativity.
Without the natural world to guide you through the pain of failure (raping the neighbor's 12 year old daughter will get you killed in the wild) virtue is lost.

The only way to regain it is to regress. To be governed by the wild of the outside world and the wild in us.
There is no ideology for that.
It is simply the law of life.
You can either embrace it or watch hopelessly as the idiotic world you have built in your head fall to dust.

why do we need a new ideology? today's score is 3-0 desu

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>>137150186
>>137150099
hmm

Bogism is the only true answer.

>>137155121

damn are you 12?

>>137150099
kys

The only political ideology pol needs is the one contained in the Bible.

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>>137150099
Traditionalist here. How do we achieve our goals without... you know...?

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>>137150099
Monarchy is the only form of government that has proven to work long term. Prove me wrong.

>>137155121
this is just anarcho-primitivism

>>137155546
You mean the one various kings and figures of authority put in there when they spearheaded new translations 1500 years after Jesus was born? Okay

>>137155832
*ones
my bad

>>137150099
> brainletarians

>>137155525
typical aussie banter

>>137155121
>Virtue comes from the wild
No
Jesus christ no
You need some Werner Herzog in your life

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Democracy does not have the tools or the willpower to fight internal communist subversion.

>>137150099
You do know there is zero difference between socialists or any other "socialdemocrat" memes? Because they all eventually become communists. Berniebros are a good example of this.

>>137155121
This is fucking dumb and empty. Go write poetry.

none ideology will be good if people is corrupt and people dont want to work
every ideology will be good if people is honest and willing to work

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>>137155343
>/lgbt at the bottom
Really? Kinda mean tbqh

>>137156309
>every ideology will be good if people is honest and willing to work
wrong

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>>137150099

Secular distributionist cultural nationalist federal republic with protectionist economic values and isolationist foreign policies

Now help me come up with a catchier term please

>>137150099
>ways of living
>political ideologies
>political concepts
>religions
>mixing them all up
you're one special kind of retard,aren't you?

It truly is summer after all

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>>137150099
>>137156683

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>>137150186
Fuck off kike

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>>137156319

>>137156466
elaborate

>>137156801
Not a single spook was conceived that day.

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>>137150186
>>137150099
>>137151492
>>137152892
Lolberts think this is okay, deep down they like it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzIRG525l6s

Adolf Hitler's Warning

>>137154511
You know who's in power so you know who's accountable. The current "democracy" in the United States nobody knows who actually has influence over what or who is responsible for a given success or failure.

Somebody always rules. You can be aware of who rules you and act in full knowledge of it, or it can be hidden from you through various layers of misinformation, propaganda and deception. Frankly its easier to hold a king accountable for his actions than it is to hold a giant bureaucratic civil service that formally isnt even in power but de facto reigns supreme.

Come and join me with Conservative Socialism.

Centrist economically, less "muh race" shit than NatSoc, anti consumerism, and a strong backing of gender roles.

>>137156866
Yeah I guess it's OK because I'd rather not be associated with easily controlled Soros tikitorch "nazis".

We need a libertarian board

>>137156736
How about you just call it Jew for short. Oops sorry goy we already control that political party.

>>137157429
>less "muh race" shit than NatSoc
I hope everyone's aware of and looking out for this kind of stuff.

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>>137157429
>socialism
>centrist economically

>>137150099
The Monarchist/Traditionalist/Paleocon understands that the right wing cannot succeed through a demotic mass movement, and so is unconcerned by the alt-rights successes or failures. To restore the monarchy is necessarily generational work, its pointless getting too worked up at the present moment. What we need presently is for the white race to outlive the current state, not to spark a revolution. Preserve the race in whatever way you can without formal political power. The progressive whites are mostly lost causes but more and more of them will wake up as time goes on. If we could organize a Religious movement (by definition apolitical in current regime) that unites various people upset at modern world that'd be a major win, but unfortunately its no trivial thing to mend together the Christian-Atheism-Pagan rifts that exist on the right.

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>>137157513

>>137157903
However, the advantage of a religious movement is it would gain a certain amount of camouflage. We could even use such a movement to appeal to progressives who are "spiritual but not religious" and despite a sort of formal atheism are really craving some kind of grand meaning (progressivism itself is at the moment such a religion, but it sucks at its job..converting people in explicitly religious terms might actually be easier than in political)

>>137157110
No. In the American democracy, representatives and senators who vote unpopularly can be voted out.

The president can be reelected once and has a limit of two terms.

Under a catholic monarchy, the masses basically have to murder the king (or MAYBE find some way to raise a big stink among aristocrats) to change policy.

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>>137150099

"Top Down" Respective is much better then all of those.

If you want to stop/join/understand the Power Structures, you are going to have to start thinking like them.

[KB Thread Archives: http://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/boards/pol.x/subject/Knowledge%20Bomb/username/anonymous5/tripcode/%21%219O2tecpDHQ6/]

Always be thinking outside of the box, even if you are outside of the box. Because chances are you are still inside of a box.

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>>137153846
kek

>monarchist

top lel at americans who suck off monarchy as if americans sucking off nazis wernt sad enough

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>>137153900

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The inclusion of monarchy in the top tier is wrong. The main flaw of monarchies is the fact that chaos is often part of the transition of power. During these times the empires are especially weak.
>crisis of the third century
>twenty years anarchy
>Frankish civil war
>Carolingian wars
>Norman invasion
>4th crusade and Byzantium
>castilian civil war
>war of the roses
Monarchy is inferior, and always subject to the claims of idiot royal family

>>137150186
Old progressiveism, unironically. There's a reason nearly everyone regards Roosevelt well today.

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>>137158884
>chooses to masturbate solely to photos of Merkel in low-cuts tops
jesus christ

>>137155832
The Bible doesn't even endorse monarchy m8, and the Bible I read isn't based on any manuscript from 1500. The books of Samuel-Kings are a critique of monarchy and pretty much every earthly political ideology you can think of. What exactly do you think these kings and "figures of authority" put inside the Bible in 1500? Please do humour me.

>>137158539
Elected officials do not have real power in your current "democracy" (hence the quotes). Youre effectively governed by a massive unaccountable bureaucracy. Notice that the Right currently holds all "formal" levers of power, and yet no right wing agenda is in the offing aside from a few bones thrown to pacify the peasants.

This is very similar to what happened in Rome, by the way. After Augustus took power the "formal" power remained with the Senate. As far as we know most Romans really believed they were still a "Republic"; the title "Emperor" comes from "Imperator", which just means general. This went on for centuries before people understood that they lived in a monarchical system. Except in your case, power did not pass from the Senate to an Emperor but from Elected Officials to the Mandarins.

This is completely obvious once youre told to look for it, but most people miss the gorilla while counting the basketballs.

>>137150099
We don't need a new ideology. Go away lefty

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>>137150099
>>137150186
classical liberalism?

You faggots need to realise that "muh white nationalism" and the alt-right cringefest isn't going to save you. Only a Christian theocracy can save the West.

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>implying

>>137159458
Yeah, because hes the founder of the current regime and your propaganda portrays him as a saintly figure. I recommend you do some serious reading about the progressive movement, they're the reason we're in the situation we are.

>>137157022
some ideologies are flawed per se and no one would succeed under then, no matter how good they were

see how the puritans starved to death for ex

>>137160234
Its plausible to me that we wind up in a quasitheocratic state. Whites crave spirituality like any other race, and subsisting off progressivism as a replacement for religion for so long is taking a toll. But I don't know how Christianity resurrects itself, it seems at least equally likely to me that it winds up being some new synthesis of older religious currents

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>>137156683
underrated

>>137150099
An-Cap is literally Communist-tier delusion.

>>137160263
Your priority is shit, bro.
>putting commie-flag next to fascism
>not putting ancom on worst list.
Get necked you commie-retard.

>>137150099
Did black lives matter need a new ideology after those nogs shot the cops last year?

>>137150099
>He wasn't already a Monarchist.

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>>137155343

>/k/ not in God Tier

C'mon man!

>>137150099
Return to Feudalism
Check em

>>137160880
Fuck off unread queer.

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>>137150099
Primitivist Anarcho-Fascist Kratocracy.

"monarchist"/"dark trad" is just an edgy special snowflake way to say you're a nazi larper

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>>137160263
Good tier
>all proven failures

monarchist fucking kek. did you just finish reading hobbes you little bitch? probably not. probably just projecting your thirst for power weakass loser.

>>137161371
>>137161642
antiroyalism is a mental disorder

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>>137155343
>tfw bogposting /x/phile

>>137156683
I keked audibly

>>137161371
>being traditional is an edgy way of saying you're a modernist faggot

>>137159308
Unironically this

>>137159308
Fucking lol

>>137160880
I agree. Dude is a fucking twat

bring back the potent lsd.

>>137162749
lol retard

>>137159308
p much

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>>137162020
Monarchy is shit tier
>Current European monarchies with actual power, zero
Modern monarchies with power are for niggers and sand niggers

>>137150186
NatSoc is literally a variant of fascism though. Also Mussolini hated kikes.

>>137150099
>Muslim
>ideology

Get the fuck out with this reddit tier bullshit.

An-Capitalism is the only way.

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>>137162552
>>137162678
>>137163965

I should be able to own land and impregnate your white daughters lawfully and with consent.

Prove me wrong without feels.

>>137165514
Damaging my property violates the NAP

>>137158920
This may come as surprise, but not all white Americans are descendants of the Revolution. Had America, France and the UK not shattered German and Austro Hungarian monarchies, leaving our states as carrion for the Bolsheviks, then many of us would still be living contentedly under our monarchies. My being a monarchist doesn't mean I seek a monarchy for America, either.

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>>137165514

>libertarian not being shit-tier.

>>137150099
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw3TmfKnFgw

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>>137165948
My great grandparents fled the Austro-Hungarian empire. It deserved to die.

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>>137156840
>>137157041
You again?! Go away

>>137153526
Going to have to agree, very comfy

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>>137166973
Your great parents probably deserved to flee.

>>137161059
/k/ is our ultimate ally

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>>137150099
Submit to your Lord Lucifer. He needs devotees for his evil tasks. Come children soon the great work will be complete.

>>137159335
Then the answer to that is a Constitutional Monarchy. The Empire of Brazil was a brilliant example with Pedro II.

>>137167921
Yes. They deserved better than to be subjected to the worst bureaucracy of ever, underneath the inbred retard Hapsburgs.

>>137159335
1 moment of weakness every 60 years would still be a better track record than most rep*blics, especially revolutionary ones

>>137168406
I'm not familiar with Brazil's monarchy. How did that work out?

>>137160591
It doesn't have to happen here at first. Even if China or Nigeria leads the way, everyone will know that only Christianity is only ideology that an sustain civilization.

>>137168144
LUCIFER, I SUMMON THEE TO MY BLACK MASS!
I CALL UPON THEE TO COMPLETE MY EVIL TASK!

>>137150099
It was perfect until the last one

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>>137150099

>>137169411
I guess that depends on how you define better. I just see too many historical examples of everything going to shit while successions are worked out.

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Here's the final redpill.

Global Elite (Illuminati, Rothschilds, Soros etc.) goal is to ensure humanity's survival at all costs.

To ensure mankind's survival, the risk of global extinction event must be decreased to absolute possible minimum, until our species establish a wide, self-sufficient presence in space, making our extinction impossible.

The only way to prevent extinction of humankind is to abolish sovereign nation-state system that on long enough timeline always leads to nuclear war, and eventually extinction.

To abolish nation-state system, elites are conducting mass-scale racemixing and mass immigration, to dehomogenize as many nations as possible. Countries with no national identity make no resistance when confronted with idea of joining a single, global World State under control of a single entity. Ethnic and cultural tensions are a problem, that's why they're going hard with this tolerance meme.

That's why they're so desperate to push their mass immigration programs as fast and as hard as possible. Time is running out, and with technological progress, nuclear terrorism is about to become a very major problem for global security.

Notice how they're so aggressive with Russia, North Korea, Iran, Syria? China and India are left alone because these countries informally agreed to join the World State once it's established in Western world.

Once all borders are abolished, all races and cultures mixed and insurgence thwarted, we'll enter a new era for human kind. Era of unlimited space exploration and endless opportunities among countless space colonies. Eventually all human minds will be merged into one digital hivemind, becoming omnipresent, omniscient being that will conquer and unravel the secrets of universe.

tl;dr New World Order is the only way to ensure mankind's survival. We should stop resisting and let them do their job, accept the sacrifice for humanity's sake.

>>137153900
>transhumanism
yes goy dont worry about the destruction of the self and being. Think about all the time you get to spend with your anime waifu now!

>>137155343
>ancap high tier
>capitalists low tier
wut

>>137170160
>Once all borders are abolished, all races and cultures mixed and insurgence thwarted, we'll enter a new era for human kind. Era of unlimited space exploration and endless opportunities among countless space colonies.
Then why is it that we entered space with national conflict intact, while space travel has become inceasingly irrelevant ever since we opened the borders and started pretending everyone's equal?

The differences between Fascism are only external (cultural). Don't try to divide.

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>>137170160
Is that what Bernie was after?

>>137170160
That in no way explains the way our government interacts with Saudi Arabia

>>137170516
There's a rough estimate somewhere that human kind establish presence on 1000 Earth-like planets to ensure that it won't extinct, preferably colonize other galaxies as well. It's obviously not possible to achieve with present nation-state system in place.

>>137171703
Or spends resources on Africa instead of space tech

>>137170511
All anon does is rip capitalisim apart, the "capitalism" of today i mean. There should be a difference noted;real capitalisim has only been tried once and it ended up creating a race of super monkeys

>>137172096
This doesn't answer my question at all, anon.

I'm all for humanity to become space faring but that won't be accomplished by turning humanity into swarthy, overly aggressive subhumans with an IQ of 85 who follow a religion that's prone to blowing up. The most resource friendly solution would be genocide of the lessers and mixing/eugenics for the rest - the opposite of which is currently happening.

>>137172096
We become mongrels, lose our identity and in the end some Matrix shit. What a noble goal!

>>137173071
Or how about we abolish welfare, police and legalize everything. Let the better man survive, naturally

>>137173332
>Let the better man survive, naturally
>says the ancap as the third world starts a mass exodus

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>>137158539
>Under a catholic monarchy, the masses basically have to murder the king (or MAYBE find some way to raise a big stink among aristocrats) to change policy.

What's the problem?

>>137173585
Why would people let them in? How would they get plane tickets when all of their gibs are taken away and all of africa starves to death and becomes somalia 2.0

>>137173798
>Why would people let them in?
Because an individual can't stop a flood

>>137173937
Like mexicans? The only threat? If they can survive, let them in.

Why would a company in amercapistan hire mexicans en masse when there are less regulatory laws, it would be who could work that job the cheapest, thats how it should be

>>137174347
>Why would a company in amercapistan hire mexicans en masse
Because they will pay them less?

>>137173798
>Why would people let them in?
>>137174347
> If they can survive, let them in.
huh

>>137174579
But there are no wage laws, so americans cost the same.

If you owned a company, would you hire a white guy for 5$ an hour or a mexican for 5$ an hour? Obviously the white guy

>>137174761
Not a contradiction, i was addressing the fact that dirty pacos could not get a job, but hardworking mexcans could

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>>137170312
>yes goy dont worry about the destruction of the self and being
You mean the thing that happens when you die?

>>137175122
>Not a contradiction
Of course it is, anon. They'd be let in because people like you don't give a shit

>>137175393
I care a lot, actually. You people need to realize that you are a little crazy rascist and there are some brownbros out there that can think just as well as you

>>137170160
>Notice how they're so aggressive with Russia, North Korea, Iran, Syria? China and India are left alone because these countries informally agreed to join the World State once it's established in Western world.

>to stop ww3 wiping out humans the globalists need to start ww3

>>137176039
>I care a lot, actually
That's just lip service after being called out, anon.

>>137150186
>Anarchism is shit
>ancap is god-tier

Pick one.

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>>137176571

there is nothing more based than right-wing american populism

>>137160880
>putting commie-flag next to fascism
i'm pretty sure that was a strasserist symbol

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>>137176971
That's national bolshevism, the strasserist symbol is pic related

>>137156683
Keksimus Maximus

>>137177821
It's true tho

>>137170160
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>>137157903
What do you think of Codreanu's legionary movement; could we achieve monarchist revival through an adaptation of it?

>>137158884
>implying Macron isn't neo-Hitler