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On the division among /pol/ and the right-wing in general

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Why the FUCK do you guys fight among your ranks so much? WHY?!

This is why we have failed for so long and are struggling to defeat the leftists/globalists/kikes/whoever you see as our primary foe (they all overlap pretty well). You absolutely refuse to work with another. Meanwhile, the left has proven itself capable of uniting itself quite well, directing the combined efforts of the Jews, Muslims, LGBT, and Commies with only token infighting for show or among those who aren't quite on the same page as the rest, with establishment Republicans as controlled opposition.

Meanwhile, the two major camps of the modern rightist movement, who I will refer to in this thread as the Far Right (Natsoc and other ethnonationalists, deus vult, etc) and the Near Right (conservatives, regular christians, civic nationalists, etc. arguably libertarians too) are often at odds, cannibalizing the movement as a whole. Why? Because the Near Right is too concerned with trying to look 'presentable', 'modern', and being able to wiggle their way into the mainstream (it will never happen) to consider working with the Far Right, while the Far Riight is too concerned with 'kike infiltrators' and other subversive elements in the Near Right to try to work with them.

The recent Charlottesville protests highlight this. People who clearly identify more with the Far Right went around the city brandishing Nazi livery and throwing Roman Salutes, much to the fear and discomfort of the city and making the Right wing look like a bunch of nutcases to any Centrist or Leftist. Meanwhile, the Near Right has been scrambling to disavow the Far Right's 'political violence' to foolish try to prevent ostracization by the Left.

What we need is for real communication to be fostered between each camp of the Right-wing. When Communists and Islamists (two polar opposites in almost every way imaginable) can work together, we have absolutely ZERO excuse for the amount of infighting and division we suffer.
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>division in our ranks

you idiot, it's leftpol
they organize raids on their discord all the fucking time
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>>137140866
Because you guys larp as nazis and do a lot to damage the trump movement. You have no self awareness and with the truck attack you're literally no better than some mudslime.

If we lose in 2020 it will be nazi larper shills fault.
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>>137140994
It's not just on /pol/. It's everywhere that has a right-wing presence (Twitter comes to mind the soonest).
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>>137140866
>(they all overlap pretty well)
wrong. Anglos and Jews are in with one another.
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>>137141227
Re-read the post, friend.
>People who clearly identify more with the Far Right went around the city brandishing Nazi livery and throwing Roman Salutes, much to the fear and discomfort of the city and making the Right wing look like a bunch of nutcases to any Centrist or Leftist.

In this post I clearly denounce the Far Right for being so blatant in the advancement of their desired goals.

As for the hit and run, the suspect still hasn't been confirmed, though most signs point towards a rich white kid who was anti-Trump, or to a black guy
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>>137141227
/thread

Y'all are just giving the left and the MSM more ammunition with events like this.
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>>137141616
So you mean to say they are working together in unison? Thanks for proving the point of that statement.
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>>137141284
>>137140866
/pol/, and similar groups, are ALWAYS going to be divided. It's an anonymous imageboard, there's constantly going to be arguments between us... lolbertarian vs natsoc, international bantz, sperging over ecelebs, the cancerous christian vs pagan divide...

When it comes to real-life movements, we're not easily going to "unify". We need a good Hitler-tier leader with a political party with clearly defined goals and values, and we need one in every country in the west. I don't think there's ever been a successful rightist movement that's just a collection of far-right ideologies. Hitler purged strasserism, and that's a lot closer to his natsoc then libertarians are to fascists.
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>>137141647
You wanted to know why we fight amongst our ranks and I told you why. There's no room for white supremacist or white pride in the trump movement. If you want to unite the right then you need to create a rally specifically about denouncing events like we saw today.
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>>137141227
>>137141697
Alright, so we have acknowledged that publicly displaying reviled Nazi livery is unsavory for the movement as a whole. Will you work in hand with them if they cease LARPing as the SA in public? Or will you still try to push them away to try to help the mainstream recognize the right?
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>>137142322
No why would I work with a group of people dedicated to hurting our optics? Fuck them, if anything this should be something we could work with the left against.
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>>137142161
>the trump movement
Fuck off back to the_donald. Trump isn't a "movement", we supported him as an improvement, not an end.
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>>137142583
Stop trying to hijack our success with your autism, there's no fucking place for white supremacists in MAGA.
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>>137142058
The goal is to unite the various sectors of /pol/ and the rest of the right's presence on the internet based on common beliefs, goals, and foes. As another anon pointed out, /leftypol/ and ShareBlue just love to stir shit among us- but notice how it almost never works the other way around? We're incapable of creating a divide between muslims and gays, because the zeitgeists of these two vastly conflicting demographics have bound themselves together so well that when one tries to exploit their points of conflict, they either ignore you or resort to self-delusional reasoning to drone out legitimate criticisms. Why, then, should it be so easy for the left to exploit and capitalize upon the flaws and divides of the right? Why are we not working to fix this?
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The left isn't globalist and i don't know how that meme started, communism will most likely take the form of diverse confederate states just like the US.

Your enemy are capitalists who enforce Marxist work ethics to boost production.
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>>137140866
>Why the FUCK do you guys fight among your ranks so much?
Because /pol/ is not your fucking echochamber. Get that in your head you fucking newfag.
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>>137142829
What the fuck are you even doing here? Go back.
I guess being sub 50% white is fine as long as your country is filled with BASED black men and BASED spics.
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>>137142539
Cut the delusions, otherwise you out yourself as a leftist shill.

If a rightist regards neo-nazis as a threat, he should at the very least have the common sense to recognize that the left is ALWAYS the greater, priority threat.
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Because even though I'm a right-winger and a patriotic American I'm also Asian and I don't feel like getting genocided or kicked out of the country. Especially since my ancestors have been in America (1840) longer than lots of these so called white nationalists.
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>>137142322
I would, but the truth is they can't help themselves.
They think being a reasonable human being is a weakness. It is their wish to be ostracized and disliked because that is what sets them apart in their minds. They are "honest" and everyone else is a coward.
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>>137143437
I'm here because this is a great place to support Trump, I normally spend most time in /ptg/ because of the shills in the catalog though.
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>>137140994
>implying it's not the_donald flooding the board with hitler worship
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>>137143849
The left is nowhere near the threat to the movement that nazi larpers are. We'll win on our merits everytime against the left but we won't win if people see us as a group that only cares about skin color.
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>>137144444
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>>137143959
Then you may take solace in the fact that the Near-Right likely outnumbers the Far-Right by a fair margin. If you're worried about the Far Right becoming an enemy, fight them after we have reached resounding victory over the leftists.

Defeating and suppressing the leftist or its ally (be it a jew, a muslim, a homo, a commie) is ALWAYS the number one priority. Get that into your head.
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>>137143112
All the "divisions" within the right are equally true for the left. The "left" is far from a unified movement. The far left, anarchists, communists and the like don't get along with the near left, liberals, democratic socialists and others. They might have some of the same vague values but they're otherwise totally different and incompatible. Likewise, an anarchist and a communist are capable of marching together to "bash the fash" but they still argue amongst themselves constantly.

On the other hand, a regular conservative and a white nationalist might share some extremely vague values but otherwise despise each other. A fascist and an anarcho-capitalist will still march together, like we saw today, then go back to meming each other on /pol/.

We, the right, can get along on what we all agree upon, but there's never going to be a successful, unified "rightist" movement that takes state power.
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>>137144427
The last time you properly won was when the Near-Right and Far-Right rallied together behind Trump to secure him victory in the election. Do not underestimate the value of your potential allies in the fight against leftism.
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>>137144887
No we won because Trump denounced those kinds of people and flipped democrat union households in midwestern states. Nazi larpers did nothing to help our movement.
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>>137140866
>Why the FUCK do you guys fight among your ranks so much? WHY?!

If they say "why, why?", ell 'em that is human nature
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>>137144744
There were ancaps at Cville? I didn't see any.

The Berkeley Free-Speech rally struck me as a particularly good example of unity among the right. A fair number of Far-Rightists, but also a good number of just ordinary conservatives and other Near-Right, coming together to express their support for the value that we all know the left despises. Cville struck me as being not nearly as diverse in its representation of rightist ideologies.
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Libertarians are cucks and will bend over for the enemy until they come knocking at the door, by which time it will be too late.
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>>137145695
Hence the importance to convince them that they need you, and that you need them.
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>>137140866
what fight?
lmao shut the fuck up fagot
> inb4 muh alt right btfo
noone gives a shit. /pol/ will keep existing, doing what it does forever. dont forget that, no matter how hard you try it in the end it doesnt even matter
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>>137145841
Anybody who is dumb enough to reguarly browse this site, be aware of what is going on, and still be libertarian is beyond saving. What more can I show them? Their own idols, like Hoppe, tell them that a societal purge is necessary and they still call us "larpers."
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>>137140866
preach brother
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>>137140866
show us your real flag.
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>UNITE THE RIGHT rally

lol
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>>137140866
>When Communists and Islamists can work together

Since when?
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>>137145178
How high is your unwarranted self importance to call it "our movement" and actually think your reddit cucks got the president elected or even helped? Trump totally didn't get a shit load of support for saying he was going to build a wall and deport illegals and was vocally against globalism which is all what those "far right" people support but not those libcucks
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>>137147480
They don't directly, but they all ultimately support the same candidate and wing of American politics. They have their own separate purposes but they find the common ground beneficial to both of them. In both the case of the commie and the muzzie (unlike some other factions of the leftist movement), they seem to be biding their time until they turn against their movement: however, in both cases it will be after the left has destroyed the right before they make their move.

On a slightly related note, have you noticed how intersectionality has been promoted among the left? Years ago, during the civil rights movement, the Women's rights and Black Rights movements often opposed eachother, which forced Black women to form their own movement. None of these three movements worked with eachother, but so such phenomenon is even imagineable in the modern day. Why? Because they've likely understood the benefit in locking arms in the march against the Right.
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>>137148230
Fuck off newfag if you spent any time in /ptg/ you'd know that nazi larpers are discouraged because of the damage they do. Trump keeps winning no thanks to fags like you.
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>>137143144
"44" THIS!
>Your enemy are capitalists who enforce Marxist work ethics to boost production.
it's staring you all right in the face!
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>>137140866
>OP thinks /pol is one white-only movement
The ABSOLUTE STATE of your stupidity
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>>137142058
Enjoy losing, then.
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>>137143144
rare as fuck desu
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>>137148619
>They don't directly, but they all ultimately support the same candidate and wing of American politics.
Communism is progressive and Islam is conservative. I don't think either of them would vote for any of the major US parties.

>They have their own separate purposes but they find the common ground beneficial to both of them
What common ground? They're on opposite sides of every issue (feminism, LGBT rights, religion, etc.).

>Women's rights and Black Rights movements often opposed eachother

I don't see how, they're parallel to each other. Maybe back then it was more common for feminists to be racists and not accept black people in their movement and for anti-racists to be anti-feminists and not accept women in their movement but that's not the case anymore. Even then the problem was with people not the ideology.

>Why? Because they've likely understood the benefit in locking arms in the march against the Right.
There are right-wing feminists and people of color. Civil rights aren't inherently anti-right-wing.
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