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North Korea Probably Can't Even Hit US with a Nuke

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NO fucking wonder China is going to jump us if we strike first.

http://thebulletin.org/north-korea%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%9Cnot-quite%E2%80%9D-icbm-can%E2%80%99t-hit-lower-48-states11012

>From the point of view of North Korean political leadership, the general reaction to the July 4 and July 28 launches could not have been better. The world suddenly believed that the North Koreans had an ICBM that could reach the West Coast of the United States and beyond. But calculations we have made—based on detailed study of the type and size of the rocket motors used, the flight times of the stages of the rockets, the propellant likely used, and other technical factors—indicate that these rockets actually carried very small payloads that were nowhere near the weight of a nuclear warhead of the type North Korea could have, or could eventually have. These small payloads allowed the rockets to be lofted to far higher altitudes than they would have if loaded with a much-heavier warhead, creating the impression that North Korea was on the cusp of achieving ICBM capability.

>In reality, the North Korean rocket fired twice last month—the Hwasong-14—is a “sub-level” ICBM that will not be able to deliver nuclear warheads to the continental United States. Our analysis shows that the current variant of the Hwasong-14 may not even be capable of delivering a first-generation nuclear warhead to Anchorage, Alaska, although such a possibility cannot be categorically ruled out. But even if North Korea is now capable of fabricating a relatively light-weight, “miniaturized” atomic bomb that can survive the extreme reentry environments of long-range rocket delivery, it will, with certainty, not be able to deliver such an atomic bomb to the lower 48 states of the United States with the rocket tested on July 3 and July 28.
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>>137087890
>Probably
no uncertainty there when getting something off the launching pad without an explosion is a victory for them
come on
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>>137088103
Not even trying to be rude but what the fuck are you trying to say
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>>137087890
Don't worry. I'm sure the CIA will help them get the missile off the pad and even supply a working nuke to boot. I bet the CIA is so helpful they will even launch it for them from a ship just off the coast of Norkieland right at Guam.

The CIA is so helpful.
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>>137088519
>probably can't even hit US
I'm saying there is no "probably" here. They most definitely can't hit the US with a nuke when the best they can do is pray their missiles don't explode on the launch pad, and celebrate it as a victory when it goes splash a few miles off their coast.
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North Korea's Missiles are fucking cardboard cutouts of missiles
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>>137087890
Everybody with a non-negroid brain knows that the shitty nork rockets are wway to small to have a significant throw weight.
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>>137087890
missile makes it to LA and turns it to dust Left outrage and march toward war.
Turn NK into glass and drop EMP on china.
Kek wills it.
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>>137087890

Yeah, so you may as well wait another 2 years when they can?

Holding off is why we're in this mess now.
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>>137087890
You think China is going to strike us and not take it as an opportunity to invade and take over what natural resources that North Korea has, all while probably mass slaughtering any North Koreans that try to escape to China?

You really think their leaders are that stupid? That they're going to go to war with the US over just protecting themselves and grabbing what assets they can?
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>>137089867
>are wway to small

Not really

~20 meters long is good for 10,000 kilometers easily
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>>137087890
Pay up Miguks, or we nuke yu capitalist cities to ash.
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>>137090466
Good. Obliterate LA, maybe nuclear destruction will force the Libs to grow a fuckin backbone.
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>>137087890

N. Korea's military budget is u$s 7.5 billon per year, and it boasts to have 1 m soldiers, hundres of planes and ships, thousands of tanks and artillery.

There is no way that the budget covers the maintenance of their military equipment, much less that it allows for R&D of atomic and ICBM.

It's all a huge bluff.
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>>137090466
>~20 meters long is good for 10,000 kilometers easily

Can't you read?
Not without decent throw weight.
The Norks CANNOT build a small nuclear warhead or a reentry vehicle.
If they have a warhead, it reads "made in China" on it.
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>>137087890
All this NK shit is only getting attention because August is usually a slow month for news, anyone with a brain knows that NK will never attack first the US, it would be signing it's own death sentence
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>>137091951
>The Norks CANNOT build a small nuclear warhead
They're attempting to make and test one.
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>>137087890
The critical mass required to make uranium 235 is about 3 kilograms, so a bomb doesn't need to be that big. Even if that relatively small explosion hits the us... A lot of people will die
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>>137090466
this
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>>137089370
CIA is great at doing shit like this.
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>>137092148
And all that will come out of it is some nuclear fizzle in a bunker because they tried for decades to build a gun desgin warhead with plutonium-239.
The US did the same during the Manhattan Project and realized that it does not work.
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>>137087890
>propellant likely used
>"flight times"
>type and size of the rocket motors used
i don't buy a word of it. unless they have proper information on the size of NK nuclear warheads, and proper information on the second stage, they can go and get fucked. they also have to account for potential military deception beyond what they have anticipated; for example, north korea deliberately only filling the rocket up so much to create an artificial lack of performance.
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>>137087890
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1o4B9SWrX4

They will.
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>>137092264
Such small designs require a whole lot of knowlege and technology the Norks simply do not have.
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The North Koreans are in a state of war, their nuclear weapons program is their main focus.

Underestimating them is not the best idea considering the situation.North Korea is extremely close to solidifying itself as a nuclear power, one could say that's already happened.

Nobody is going to fuck with the North Koreans militarily anymore, they've secured their place, the only way the world can deal with the North Koreans now is a full scale nuclear bombardment on a level the world has never seen before, it'll make Hiroshima/Nagasaki look like a paper cut.
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>>137094148
Not like NK is fueled by china tech..

if russians could make gooks will have no problem with china help
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>>137094611
At this point it is highly unlikely that China will provide nuclear tech to the Norks.
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>>137095641
THIS POINT, what about cooperation for many years ?

I mean it IS rocket science but gooks are great at copying shit. I would assume the worst.

Then againe whole NK thing isnt just about nukes, they have enough arty pieces aimed at seoul to obliterate it. And no considering forests/moutains in NK you cant just strike them down in blitz/suprise attack.
If SHTF SK is very fucked up, Japan will get nuked.

Whole NK problem is very complicated.

And guess what, china would be VERY happy about SK and Japan getting kicked in balls.
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>>137093990
I can give you that:
They are propelled by a single liquid-fuel rocket engine burning kerosene and corrosion-inhibited red fuming nitric acid (IRFNA) with unsymmetrical dimethylhydrazine (UDMH, Russian TG-02 like German Tonka 250) as liquid igniter (self-ignition with IRFNA) in all models.

Why, you ask?
Because they missiles are shitty copies of the Scud-D with some firework rocket strapped to the tip as second stage.
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>>137096330
yeah okay Heinz, go off and help Abdul squeeze some more ketchup for your family.
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>>137096218

>china would be VERY happy about SK and Japan getting kicked in balls.

That is utter bullshit.
SK and Japan are Chinas third and second most important export markets.
Stop pulling things out of your ass!
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>>137087890
That missile probably couldn't even hit the massive blatantly obvious bald spots of two of those photographers heads.
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>>137096764
They are also thiers competitors. Also rebuilding after war makes for good market too.

Other thing SK itself is teriffied about unification. They dont know how to integrete brainwashed NKs (few generations of brainwashing) into normal socieity.
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>>137096534
What did you say?
Sorry, I don't understand chinese.
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>>137097073
that's okay man, learning two languages is a big enough feat, three is just too much to ask of your average man
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>>137097072
now you are conjecting

China needs enemies for propaganda reasons.
But if they actually start a shooting war, all the leading party members of the CCP would lose a of money.
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>>137097522
Thats why you are using proxy wars. Lets be honest NK is one big proxy.

Might got out of hand now with new guy in charge but still its china pulling strings.

Just imagine blow to LG and other SK corporations if SK gets even into short conflict with NK. The possible "vaccum" in market would be fast covered by chinas companies.

And then SK "wins" with high damage to infrastructure and is stuck for 20-30 years of integrating NK citizens.
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>>137096218
killing your 1st (us), 2nd (jap) and 3rd (kor) best customers
>how to create an economic apocalypse and bring democracy to china, by the ccp
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>>137087890
You need to be seriously retarded to consider Best Korea as a threat anyway.
I still can't believe people are spamming this topic. There should be a /trump/ board dedicated to those who really want to comment his meaningless daily statements. (this mongoloid unironically fall for NK's propaganda wtf)
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>>137087890

It can.

The problem is accuracy.

They're less likely to hit hawaii than they are the ocean.
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>>137099605
modern icbm's navigate by inertial navigation and star maps. doesn't seem very hight tech. which is of course the point, inertial nav can't be jammed. nor can the stars. north korea is real dark at night so they can just draw the maps by hand.
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>>137099082
Soutien d'Alain Soral détecté.
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