Crops are rotting thanks to Trump banning illegal Mexicans

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>>137069190
>leaf
*Blocks your path*

Those farmworkers would almost certainly be paid below min wage. Are libs okay with this?

>>137069190
Raise the wage so white people actually get those jobs

sure, it'll inflate the prices of food slightly but it's worth the immigration situation being resolved

>lived in Commienornia
>couldn't find a job
>applied to harvest crops
>denied

Oh, so now you want me to work for you? Too late. I'm just going to sit back and watch the west burn.

no cheap mexicans anymore therefore automation is required therefore jobs, innovashun etc..

>>137069314
Based

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>>137069314

Not an argument. Americans aren't willing to do the jobs of Mexicans because they are lazy.

>>137069190
Demand creates supply. Pay more than $1/hr

>>137069400
stay mad cunt.

abolish the minimum wage and let people work at whatever they are willing to pay and problem solved

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>>137069190
>omg why dont any white people want to work for .50 cents an hour?

>>137069190
Why can't you ship mexicans in during harvest season and then send them back? that's what we do with moroccans

>>137069190
this is the racists strategy to raise wages
and if it works, anti-racists BTFO

>>137069352
See this is how wages are determined in a real free market system-- by what you can pay citizens to get them to want to do it. This isn't a problem actually and the fact that liberals treat it like one is highly indicative of their lack of understanding on economic principals.

California displaced those white men.
They're not going to come back and work below minimum wage now that your slaves are being taken from you.

Rot.

>>137069190
>Move across the country to take a seasonal job
Sounds like a smart idea.

>>137069368
"Stop stealing jobs we don't want!!" - white trash rednecks

>>137069407
>an infograph with the word 'til

>>137069407
why do liberals like human trafficking and modern day slavery?

This has already been debunked as fake news, why does it keep popping up?

>>137069190
>want equal pay
>doesn't want equal work
>Hey white man why are you making more than me for 8 hours in the field while i do nothing?!

>>137069525
We have work visas that are for exacty that purpose.

>>137069407

Cool, have them repost that job by offering a living wage and see how many applicants you get.

You complete bucket of retard.

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>>137069407
>we need these slav- I-I mean undocumented workers goyim

>>137069710
one of the very few agendas liberals can push these days

>kids and teens used to pick fruit and vegetables
>kids and teens become adults, get better jobs, then have kids
>these kids now pick fruit and vegetables
>repeat
This is how it worked for a few generations. Why wouldn't this work again? Oh yeah, "we entitled" generation now.

>>137069190
thats what those farms get for building their staff full of illegals, to be honest the employer should be in jail for human exploitation

also side note trump didn't ban illegals what a fuckin retarded thing to say their called illegal for a reason.

Farmers employing illegals are criminal and deserve a greater punishment.

>>137069525
This. It would be ingenious, and it would cost just enough for people to think this is not cost effective and start developing automation for this job, later making this process unnecessary

>>137069668
Because, much like the niggers they virtue signal for, they have no idea how to automate the process.

>>137069817
This. the farmers know damn well that they're doing for cheap labor. they don't want to hire Americans because then they'd have to pay a fair salary

>>137069190
I don't understand. Is the left ok with exploiting illegal immigrants for labor or not? Or are they only when it helps their cause?

>>137069190
So this might push someone to make a machine that does this work? Holy smukes

>>137069332

of course they are, they love slave labor. How else can they get avacado toast?

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>>137069190
Didn't that turn out to be based on 2015 numbers?

>>137069352
No it will bring the prices to where they should be, until innovate a new way to harvest that lower prices.

>>137069190
businesses that rely on illegal labor are getting what they deserve.

>>137069981
10/10

>>137069190

Worst case scenario California can just get food from Mexico. Those Mexicans can then stay in Mexico and make money there instead.

So in other words, why don't you want to help the Mexican agricultural industry, you bigot?

>>137069190
How is this happening so close to mexico when here in Michigan all the seasonal workers arrived no problem?

I do maintenance on their refrigeration systems and other things.

>>137069190
>someone please come and pick our crops for slave wages.
Why is it California is the only state having this issue?

Crops are supposed to be tended to by legal seasonal migrants.

Are you saying these farms were using... illegal labor?

>>137069190
>jobs are available
yeah no shit they probably got filled as soon as applications were opened

>>137069956
>how else can they get their cheap chinese made goods
Fixed

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>>137069190
You're right I will, California is filled with backwards thinking idiots so I don't really feel bad for them. There are literally hundreds of thousands of able bodied men the could work those jobs but they're lazy fucks that don't do anything and due to Californias sht agriculture laws, there is almost zero incentive to hold said i

>>137070150
Because California produces all the food.

>>137069407

Why work when you can do the same thing doing nothing? Socialism is the problem. Showing eveyone that unemployment is voluntary will end the image that welfare is for the poor and not the lazy.

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>>137069981
>this

>>137070287
pretty much. Florida is good for fruits like Oranges etc but only certain times of the year

>>137070287
Didnt realize the world ran on almonds.

>>137069981
How about we legalize all immigrant and make the process to citizenship easier?

>>137069407
Maybe it will cause large corporate farms to fail and allow smaller family farms to be profitable again, but that's something likes like you don't want

>>137069190
We're just encouraging California to secede so they can get immediately taken over by Mexican gangs while we laugh at them.

>>137069190
>Democrats condone slavery and inhuman work conditions

Checks out

>>137070287

you mean nuts and rice for international trade? or do you mean your precious avacado toast?

what do you love more, slavery or your avacado toast?

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>>137069190
White feminists are drastically underrepresented in farm work. Why don't they exercise their equal rights and go work?

>>137069190
We can just send the Mexicans to you is that cool?

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>>137069190
>camifornia
no thank you, I'll stick to my local farms.

>>137070361
>Belgium
Fake country calling for faster naturalization.
Moab molenbeek faggot.

>>137069619
Except I did want this job. I applied for it back in 2010.

I didn't get it because I wanted minimum wage.

>>137070361
How about you fuck off?

>>137069190
obongoleaf tier bait

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>>137069190
>>137069407
any time a leftist says california has a big ole gdp make sure to remind them it's based almost entirely off of slave labor, and if california were to secede they would become a country like thailand or vietnam

>>137070361

How about we eradicate all retarded communists jews like you and lower demands for food? Also fuck california for promoting liberal agendas and dodging the taxes that pay for them.

>>137069407
You can do that legally, the farms just don't want to pay extra.

>>137069190
they wouldnt sell anyways. it was all over the news a few years ago. produce rotting in grocery stores because it was overpriced and nobody would buy it. we get most of our food from canada and mexico now days

we dont even actually sell most of the crops that are produced

>>137069619
You love slavery

>>137069190
I would actually work fields if it was an available job where I live

>>137069537
Our current system is quasi-slavery, with mexicans being paid below market wages and being afraid of being deported.

>>137070378
DELETE THIS

>>137069190
Niggers are the ones who need jobs.
They aren't going to do it because selling drugs is easier.
Should really just legalize them and make it so that you have to have a college degree to sell them.

>>137069525

That's how the Bracero Program worked from 1941 to 1965.

It was mutually beneficial.

>>137070444
trips of truth. all fruits and veggies i like and get are from a local farm they grow themselves. besides Bananas which say on a sticker usually come from Brazil etc not Commiefornia

>>137069190
force the fly over states to take jobs instead of welfare. The problem is we have pseudo republicans that say they want to take these jobs but never will. I run a farm and I have republican friends that bitch about immigration but won't work for 10 dollars an hour.

>>137070506
>Tell them this shit that isn't true so you look like a fucking retard.
Okay buddy.

>>137069619
Hahaha look at his response you fucking retard. You DO want slave labour. You fucking bitch.
>>137070461

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>>137069190
So we build better harvesting machinery. Pretty sure it will be way more efficient and it doesn't shit in the produce.

>>137070361
how about you legalize all africans and give them plane tickets to get into your country easier?

>>137069190
Let them. One of 3 things will happen.
1.) They fucking rot
2.) Prices go up a bit and they hire American at a decent wage
3.) More farmers unite to cut out the middle men and with the extra saving hire American and decent wages.

My vote is on No. 2, which I am fine with.

>>137069190
No thanks bitch. I make $100k sitting in a lab watching monitors while shit posting.

>>137069407
Day of the leaf blower can't come soon enough

>>137070638
that is fucked man, chill out with this racist shit damn.

>>137070726
mother fucker who pays for that shit? goddamn fuck this board my margins aren't great.

ya WE will just build that shit. no faggot, producers build shit you sit there and shitpost.

>>137070683
kill yourself

>>137070656
Yes but farmers cheated the system all the time by hiring illegal wetbacks for sub minimum wage.

>>137070828
shut your fucking mouth you fucking worthless, putrid nigger scum

>>137070881
Make me faggot.

>>137069190
It's almost as if the companies have a vested interest in deliberately not hiring legal workers to replace the illegals and allowing the food to rot so that the libs ensure that the BEANS MUST FLOW...

>the left calls themselves the resistance
kek

>>137069190
Brain dead leaf needs to read entry level economics books. Those jobs aren't going unfilled because there aren't people willing to do them. The employer has to be willing to pay them.

>>137070799
Number 2 is the reason whites don't try to get employed there. They pay horrifically low wages. Far lower than minimum.

>>137069190
>democrats in 1865: crops are rotting because our slave labor was taken away from us!
>democrats in 2027: crops are rotting because our slave labor was taken away from us!
Well, at least they are consistent.

>>137070909
You seem perturbed.
Perhaps your butt frustration could be relieved by calmly applying some icyhot to your butthole.

>>137069190
>make whites minority in cali
>complain when there aren't enough of them

When will white nationalists realize that these jobs cannot be automated? That they require human labor? And as long as they require human labor, Mexicans will come here and do it if whites don't? There are plenty of these jobs in Oregon that start at nearly 13/hour. They provide housing. White replacement ends where not white replacement begins.

>>137070671
You're cheap. If you can make more money moving packages at a factory than maybe you should analyze your own business practices.

>>137069190
I would love to put this spoiled cunt to work in the fields, let her see what happens to to her kind in the camps after sundown. She can use the sub-min wage paycheck to try to find herself a lawyer after the county prosecutor refuses to try any of her rapists.
The stupidity of liberals and their inability to understand the basics of illegal aliens amazes me.

>>137069407
Gonna need an actual source on that claim.

>>137069190
>Crops are rotting thanks to Trump banning illegal Mexicans

CROPS ROT BECAUSE FARMERS WON'T PAY FAIR WAGE

>>137071085
i could make more money if we take you faggots off medicaid you worthless piece of shit. Kick out the immigrants and make sure all the lazy shit heads in flyover states, where my farms are, aren't drawing welfare.

>>137069619
We need slaves! How else is this cotton going to be picked?

>>137069407
>>137069190
What's keeping these workers from getting a visa? Seriously, what's the problem? Why do they HAVE to be illegal?

>>137069190
Hey lady, you seem unemployed

>>137070671
The reason beaners are willing to work for less is because illegals do not have to pay taxes or they're receiving a shit ton of benefits, or both. Welfare has gotten so bad beaners and blacks won't even take these jobs. Turn off the gibs and cut taxes and people will take these jobs.

We only have 30 million spics. How many more do we need before the produce gets picked?

>>137070547
The way the system is set up now, in most cases you can't, the margins are too thin to pay them much more.

>>137070968
Which is why I think this is a good. Shit will suck for a year or two then get better.

Though farmers do get screwed pretty hard by the middle men as is.

>>137069190
#Fightfor15!

hey fucking cunt who wants to be diversity-hired to a tech company, jobs are available

anyway, whites PAY for the privilege of picking fruit

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>hey forgotten (spoken in a cumwhore voice, eyes rolling) white men, here are low-paid jobs

>we need to fill technology companies that pay 150k salaries with wymyn and dindus

>>137069190
>carbajal with B instead of V

kill her

>>137069190

Hey White Women, jobs are available.

Oh wait you can't drink lattes while farming.

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>muh automation
You pale asses better move and take these jobs quickly, or the agricultural sector will contact Trump to let the beaners return after some shady, closed-doors deal. You KNOW that this will happen.

>mfw whites go extinct due to laziness
It's just so fitting for you basement-dwellers

>>137071122
>>137071255
Wrong. Come to Oregon where the H2A and H2B jobs are taken by Mexicans, who, with a few year experience, can be making 13-14 an hour plus overtime. Some jobs run as high as 20/hour. Check the department of labor website.

>>137071253
you dumb faggot. I have to hold taxes whether or not they're legal. welfare has gotten so bad that we kick out immigrants and i have to pay huge labor cost then subsidize trailer trash with food stamps. if we don't cut Obamacare soon and shut off the welfare line I'm going to start shooting faggots.

>>137069190
Empires were always built on the work of slaves, serfs and the underclass. There is nothing wierd about it.

If US wants to retain its global no.1 positions they will have to stop fighting illegal immigration.

>>137071418
White women are needed for programming and engineering jobs that pay six figuires.

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>>137069407

1. It's not the mexicans or any hispanics fault that the free market encourages them to pick oranges because it will give them a better life and they can do it now

2. Because of the market rules that were in place in the old system, it will take some time before wages increase to a point where other americans will take those jobs.

3. This will almost certainly lead to a moderate increase in the price of perishable goods and other similar products.

>>137071496
How is asking for a source wrong?

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>>137070848
Bwahah he's still locked into the jewish currency game. it's low IQ fucks like yourself that impede forward any progress. Republican my ass, I smell a Bernout. I stopped giving a shit about currency when I had enough to live comfortably until my death.
Know how many acres of producing fields I own in Socal? Sugar beets motherfucker. We don't need cheap ass mexicants anymore. I made my fortune cutting out those cheap worthless "laborers" Currency is fucking worthless past a certain extent. If you're poor or still have to worry about funds into your late twenties. it's because you're stupid.

>>137069407
>statistics
That's a nice image you have there, but 'til you can prove it I will call you out on your bullshit

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easy solution

So this could all be solved by issuing more cropworker temporary visa's right? That way the workers are here legally and are documented.

>>137071552
You idiot, many of the jobs that can only be done by hand DO pay a lot more than you think. Contact any cherry/peach/pear farmer and you will see. These crops cannot be entirely automated due to the delicate nature of harvesting fruit.

>>137071517
America has greatly declined the last 30 years.
When did Reagan give amnesty?

>>137069190
>California.
Kys

>Business model is unsustainable without slave labor and "wages" that aren't equal to the work

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG0ipvIoFZs

>>137071636
Jesus Christ what are you talking about. why are you ranting about currencies? Go back to /biz/ and shit post. I'm in my 30's and I'm just trying to run my business without the government demanding I pay more for less. I live in Idaho, Cali has no implications on what I do on a supply side.

>>137069407
>African slaves aren't taking your jobs, they're doing jobs you would NEVER do! We need them, period.

>>137069190
Well, why the fuck would any decent American want to live in an overpriced commie shithole like California when there is so much open land that can be purchased in much more agreeable areas of the country for dirt cheap?

>>137071737

Watch your ad-homs when debating something.

And my point still stands, hand-picking fruit is not a high paying job and for that reason they are able to charge much less than they normally would because of large labor market supply due in part to NAFTA and lax immigration policy

Liberal problems, muh vegetables

Celebrate no vegetables this weekend!

Steak, fire up the grill !!

>>137071696
>So this could all be solved by issuing more cropworker temporary visa's right? That way the workers are here legally and are documented.

and then they will overstay their visas like they have done in the past.

A huge number of illegal immigrants arrived in the US on some type of legit visa that they overstayed. This would only feed into the problem.

>>137069407
We had the same issue with sanitation workers. They just had to keep increasing the salary until people were will to take it.

>>137069190
Ah yes! Let's pack up from our generational home in the rust belt and move out to california to pick rotten crops!

>>137070361
>Legalize illegal immigrants
>Employer now has to pay them minimum wage
>Now """legal""" immigrant can't apply for benefits because he can't hide that he's working
No one on the left wants them legalized because they'll be unable to abuse the system, and no one on the right wants them because they're fucking wetbacks. Dipshit.

>>137069190
cant evn eat wo crops

>>137069352
>it'll inflate the prices of food slightly


ITT: Cletus Mathematics

>>137071948
How high do the wages need to go until unemployed whites enter the workforce?

This interview was done 2 years ago, and the statistics used were from the 7th year of President Obama's administration. This is fake news at its finest. The statistics needed to show what damage to California's agriculture sector by Trump's crackdown on illegal immigration will not be available till 2018!!! Fake news at its finest. This has been going on for a lot longer than Trump's presidency.

>>137069190
I would gladly do it if I lived in fucking California

>>137070828
Fuck you faggot.
Niggers need to get off their fucking asses and quit selling drugs.
Go get a fucking job.

>>137071948
fair, but if you're going to overhaul NAFTA and enforce immigration then cut food stamps and welfare. Get my neighbors off their free hand outs and make them help me feed them. This is fucking socialism.

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>>137069190
>>137070287
>>137069407
>>137069619
>canadians knowing current events

http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-fi-farm-mechanization/

>>137071455
>trump siding with mestizo niggera

t.mestizo nigger

>>137070334
>>137070726
Or just go pre-1865 and bring out the old chains and put the antique farm equipment back to work again.

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>>137069190
Is there a wage gap between male and female farmers?

How many women get into that market?

Or do they have no interest in it?

>>137069407
Source: Their asshole

>>137069190
>time magazine

>So many shitskins have been deported that former employers will actually be forced to hire their own citizens at something approaching a livable wage.
>will face massive losses if they don't

Is this supposed to be a bad thing? Sounds like wonderful news to me.

Can't believe people in this day and age blindly believe msm without fact checking themselves.

>>137072258
tell them to put down the Obama antenna/phone/food/ and come get a job then. Half the country is fucking NEETs.

>>137069190
No visa, no welcoming. There's prisoners and teenagers to fill in

>>137069190
It's nothing to do with wages. They don't hire English speakers. The industry is so dominantly Hispanic that white people who don't speak Spanish literally can't apply. If you get it bad enough they'll start hiring white guys again, but until they feel there's no chance of getting their slave labor back they won't start hiring white people.

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>>137072214
Trump sides with big business, because he is one of them. Stay in denial, stormnigger

>>137072150
Seems to me the prices would skyrocket in places where people already don't have locally grown shit, I.e. large cities.

I am completely okay with that.

>>137072389
Lazy faggots dont want to work for 10 an hour no matter what language they speak.

>>137071512
Extended families of beaners are living on the dole. They can work for less because they don't play by the rules. They take every kind of assistance that they can get. If you're hiring these people, you're getting subsidized labor. It should be obvious why someone with old school republican/conservative couldn't compete with these people. Stopping welfare should be the priority and then we can find out the true value of labor. Also, fag.

>>137069981
diez/diez

>californians
>making a living wage off of farming

its time for those retarded cucks to come back to reality, at least a little bit

their economy is going to take a shit now that they dont have a bunch of shitskins to enslave for subhuman wages

>>137069190
Try paying a decent wage then which was the whole point.

supply and demand
Pay people more and they will come flocking

>>137072417
that retard sides with big business only. small cap farms don't stand a chance in trumps gibmedat hell hole. Glad he's going after MID so I can get double fucked

Raise the wages.

There shouldn't even be an agro industry in America.It's heavily subsided and would never survive without the govt.

>>137069190
>TIME
>Not propaganda

>>137069190
>Vegetables getting more expensive
Vegans are gonna be pissed.

>>137072674
Good. Fuck them.

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>>137069190

Say slowly with me children: I-L-E-G-A-L immigrants

>>137071517
I don't want an empire then. What I want is for my grandchildren and great grand children to not be mixed mongrels. Hard to accomplish that when American politics has essentially become "white men and their families" vs. "browns and cowards" and the demographic shift draws closer.

>>137069190
I hate this FUCKING OBAMA LEAF
AAAAAAAAAAAAH
Anyway, less than 5% of illegals actually pick crops anyway.

>>137069190
oh no

>>137072510
shut the fuck up and read the wall street journal you dumb faggot. making up shit and taking you 15 minutes to type a response makes you a retard. take EVERYONE off gibs and let he market adjust. my payrolls are retarded high, and the majority net takers are trailer trash white faggots with confederate flags.

>>137069314
This picture is a psyop.

>>137069368
Probably didn't speak enough Spanish

>>137069407
Moron kill yourself with your foreskin, if you have one you kike, illegals aren't normal migrants with a paper trail faggot they are illegal.

>>137069956
>How else can they get avacado toast?
I'd say move to the south and grow their own avacado but they're retarded liberals

>>137069190
>California cries as they lose their slave labor
It was the same shit last time Republicans free'd the slaves.

>>137069407
Aren't you supposed to be hibernating or getting ready to ya faggot leaf

>>137070848
of course your margins aren't great, you're competing with absurdly cheap labor
That's the same reason all factories are moving out of the west

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>>137072674
They'll have the universal basic income to pay for it or something.

>>137069981
Kool meme nigger,
However anybody who has taken a history class and read a book in their life knows party ideologies were switched at the time.
Those "democrats" were conservatives.

Why are white men not working at fields? Trump gave them the oppoturnity.

>>137069190
well, maybe they shouldnt have hired illegals in the first place to dumb down the wages

>>137072785
How? Its just an insurgent meme, nothing more, nothing less. It'd be around for a few then disappear almost completely.

>>137070671
I would work for 10 bucks an hr full time on a farm in a minute, but I never see those jobs advertised.

>>137069190
Make it 50% women and 50% asians market problem solved guys everyone go home

>>137072674

Good, hopefully it fucks them over. too retarded that they can't even grow their own shit.

>>137069190
I work on a farm and this sounds like bullshit. We do hire Mexicans for harvesting but they're in the country legally on work visas. They also get paid based on the quantity of their harvest and they get paid pretty good. The only reason we use so many Mexicans is because they're mainly the ones interested in this kind of work. We use anybody so long as they can do the job. Decades ago my dad hired blacks and they're awful. They must have been pretty awful at picking cotton too.

Sometimes the Mexicans escape which is a problem for all of us. If you don't want us using Mexicans you're welcome to come harvest for us. It's just there are only few that do

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>>137069190

Slavery is okay if you're a Democrat. Let's get illegal aliens to pick our crops for $1 an hour. Oh, but white kids working at McDonalds should be paid $15 an hour!

>>137072718
"illegal" has 2 l's in it. you took the other one

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This is scaring black people right now. Stop.

>>137069190
So you needed slave labor to prop up CSAlifornia?

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>>137072928
>the 'ideologies switched'-meme

>>137072928
You have fallen for America's ultimate lie. The Dems have somehow convinced you that the modern day Republicans are responsible for all the crimes of the old Democrats just because they were "conservative". I guess it never occurred to you that two groups of conservatives can be trying to conserve completely different things.

>>137073320

Some people are somehow still mentioning GamerGate. The delusion runs fucking deep.

>>137072928
The more things change, the more they stay the same, huh?

>>137072718

Humans can't be "illegal" only objects can be illegal. The proper term is UNDOCUMENTED.

Stop trying to dehumanize them by calling them illegal.

>>137072460

>I am completely fine with people in high population centers being unable to afford basic food products, absolutely no ill can come of such an outcome


Again: Cletus Mathematics & Economics


Let the Mexicunts do the labour until Automation Innovation prices them out of the market. Stop bitching about jobs that assholes on the internet, by and large, will not take due to the amount of work versus the pay.

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>>137073494

>>137072928
Dumbest thing I've read all day.

>>137069525

We do, it's called an H-2A visa. The problem is that these legal temporary workers benefit from all US employment laws, and many besides (for instance, employer has to pay transportation, housing, and food while they're here).

Corporations love illegals because they're cheaper.

>>137073473
Nope. We call 'm as we see 'm.
They're illegal immigrants.

>>137073473
It's illegal to reside in a country undocumented, therefore they're illegal.

>>137073320

>This is scaring Jewish people right now. Stop.

>>137069190
Once again this story is fucking fake news. Its been debunked. Even lefty snopes says its fake.

>>137073660
The proper term is CRIMINAL.

>>137069190
If a man can not harvest crops he plants, they should be taken from him - it's the same reason John Locke said a man can not own an apple growing on a tree in the wild, ownership comes from extracting the object from nature. By allowing the crops to have a full life cycle, the crops have returned to nature and the farmer can not say his work has extracted them from nature. His work created them but now they have returned and should belong to whoever can now finish the job

But this isn't about labor availability, it's about market prices and hedging

>>137073406
>>137073407
>>137073422
>>137073595


https://www.livescience.com/34241-democratic-republican-parties-switch-platforms.html

Not that reading facts matter to you retards

>>137069407
A FUKKEN LEAF!

>tfw live in based PA where Amish are allowed to use cheap child labor

lmao, no mexicans and cheap ass produce

>>137069190
STRAIGHT UP LIE

>>137069190
my dutch heritage mother in-law picked blueberries to pay for her school clothes
>heroic migrant workers save America from starvation
kek.

>>137073660
>>137073674
please educate yourselves on why "illegal" or "alien" is a dehumanizing term:

https://thinkprogress.org/the-dehumanizing-history-of-the-words-weve-used-to-describe-immigrants-18dd39c90459/

>>137074009

https://unvis.it/thinkprogress.org/the-dehumanizing-history-of-the-words-weve-used-to-describe-immigrants-18dd39c90459

>>137069190
If you can't run a business without illegal employees, then you can't run a business. The free market should be allowed to cut out its own cancer.

Don't liberals understand that using illegals as labor is close to slavery?

>>137069368
Literally this is real.
& you wonder why there are tent cities.

>>137073840
Oh look, more propaganda
KYS. Kill your slaves too while you're at it.

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>>137070413
This. I thought they wanted to be equal and do the jobs only men are usually entitled to?

I never see them working steam rollers, jack hammers, riding fork lifts or picking vegetables - only men do these jobs.

Why is that?

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>>137069352
Zimbabwe-like inflation coming to the USA
https:\\news.itsthenews.com/storyid=29aFr231?expect-high-inflation-as-cheap-labor-removed

US dollar drops in value.

>>137074009
That had literally nothing to do with the argument.

They're here illegally, therefore, they are illegals, whether or not it is dehumanizing is beside the points.

Considering they're not human

>>137073473
or how about criminal aliens?

>>137074009

You can call the illegals whatever you like when they flee to Canada to live on welfare permanently. Here they are called illegal aliens by federal law.

>>137074009
idgaf if it's "dehumanizing".
IT'S ACCURATE
Go back to plebbit.

>>137074009
>please educate yourselves on why "illegal" or "alien" is a dehumanizing term:

How can you dehumanize something that is not human?

>>137073840
Right, and contemporary democrats are making the same arguments now that the democrats made before the platform shift. As I said, the more things change, the more they stay the same.
Are you illiterate, or is it more of a reading comprehension issue?

>>137069190
Great! Can I immigrate and make millions working on farm now?

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>>137074105
>i disagree
>shill shill shill!!!!!!! ALL LIES!!!!


The current state of /pol/

>>137069190
>we deserve $15 an hour to flip burgers and refill coffee
>blu blu blu how come you white men aren't taking these $5 hour jobs working in the cotton fields that the negros are working? Hah! Bet you think ending slavery is stupid now!

I unironically want to see every last liberal hunted and killed.

>>137069190
>(((Commifornia)))

For a second I thought it might have meant something.

>>137074009
How about 'criminal?'

Are these farm owners in USA rich or just barely making ends meet?

>>137072928
How does this refute the claim that todays dems advocate a form of modern day slavery; that of grossly underpaid illegal immigrant workers?

Your slave needs attention dem.

>>137069407
Wrong, employers aren't willing to hire them because then they'd have to follow labour laws. I have excellent references, work hard and have applied to loads of fast food outlets, farms, tree planting places and other entry-level jobs and haven't even gotten a bloody rejection letter. And they have the fucking gall to whine about how this alleged labour shortage and about how they aren't getting enough applicants? It's ridiculous. If they can't afford to pay their workers a decent wage then they should start up a more profitable one or get out of business altogether. No sympathy whatsoever for these lying, greedy and unethical cunts.

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>>137074009
Good it should be dehumanizing. Come in legally or not at all. There are many countries they could try to legally immigrate to, but they chose to cross over illegally into the US. They aren't escaping a dictator, they want an easy life at my expense. They don't pay taxes, the recieve welfare, and they take jobs because they work for less than minimum wage.

Would you hire John for 8 dollars and hour (min wage), or Juan for 7?

>>137074115
>"Cheap labour".
Nice fucking newspeak for illegal aliens that are by definition already criminals who come and take American jobs.

Fucking hell.

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>>137073840

Parties dont switch. They dont exist in and of themselves. Only the people who support and constitute them switch. People always desire a choice. When one party draw closer to the other idealogically they converge. A position that cant be sustained long. The people must have a choice. Sometimes a swapover can occur when there is no idealogical differences between parties (they are essentially a monopoly elite in power at that point offering the illusion of choice).

If nobody emerges to push parties apart idealogically and break this elite power hold then an outside will emerge to shatter the phoney consensus. Thus the God Emperor has arrived. Thus Kek spoke.

Its the way and cycles that permeate all existence. Yin'ing and Yanging

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>>137074409
This

>>137069190
Not defending subsidized jew. We let food rot every year mung

>>137069407
>245 were hired but only 163 showed up.
>163/245 = 66.5%
>Americans are lazy

You know damn well the 33.5% who didn't show up were fucking minorities.

>>137073127
>hire legal Mexicans on work visas
>sometimes the Mexicans escape

Huh?

>>137074492
They simply support immigration of all kinds simultaneously they support the raise of all wages and the legalization of those illegals so they wouldnt be underpaid and had the right to ask for a better wage and benefits.

long story short, the left has always been the good guys.

>>137073473
No, the proper term is illegal, or criminal if you prefer to get cute.

>>137069190
Women are massively underrepresented in farming positions. Shouldnt we be seeing feminists trying to address this obvious gender bias?

>>137073840
Notice how this article only talks about economic ideas, and steers clear of civil rights.

>>137074676
>Parties don't switch.


Wut. Parties change their stance on issues, no it is not an everyday occurrence but it happens.

>Muh Proofs

The Democratic Party of the 70s had almost zero of this Identity Politics bullshit and was all about Workers' Rights.

It is why many conservative talk show hosts talk about the fact that their staunch Democratic Parents and Grandparents are now Conservative Republicans.

>>137073494
>Let the Mexicunts do the labour until Automation Innovation prices them out of the market.
Newp.
Deport them all.

>>137069407
[citation needed]

>>137074939
Why would we want to work on a farm making 20k a year for back breaking labour when we can get 100k per year jobs as programmers and engineers with affirmative action policies?

>>137074875
That is a convenient position to take but it doesn't hold water when you have a native population with a high unemployment rate.

>>137074814
They go off the grid and become illegals which causes problems for anon's company because they're the ones that sponsor the wetbacks being here and are generally responsible for keeping tabs on them.

Also 'migrant worker' slavery overtones.

>>137069190
why is she calling out white people when this is an ideal job for the unemployed blacks?

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>>137075001
Cherry picking at it's finest. lol

Just like this thread. Civil rights and poor oppressed minorities only matter when it harms corporations not to care.

When it does matter and cost them money, all of a sudden slavery is politically correct. lol!

"We need those Mexicans to work for below minimum wage like total slaves in the field, this is appropriate, just and Martin Luther King would approve!"

- typical shill leftist

How in the living fuck is it any different from when niggers were stuck in the fields?

It's still forcing humans to do work just to survive, rather they get spare shekels tossed at them or not!

California needs better nug control... get busy California, round up the nugs and deliver them to the promised land

>>137069190
>2017
>not using modern farming techniques
>not using modern fucking farming technology
Is California Africa?

Liberal conundrum.... eat veggies or insult lazy blacks...

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>>137069190
Let me get this LGBTQ
>according to our lying traitorous representatives, the illegals are just here picking fruit, which Americans won't do.
>40 to 50 Million (gorillion) illegals rising in our cities, towns and jails.
>shortage of fruit pickers

You guys have really outdone ((((yourselves))))

>>137075667
No, it is the plantation south.

>>137069190
Articles been debunked.

The single source is a 2016 interview about a 2015 survey. And the survey showed worker shortages were decreasing compared to 2014 and previous years.

yawn.

>>137074009
I don't care if it's fucking dehumanizing or not, that's what they are, it's not incorrect to describe them for what they are.

>>137075715
Good point. This must mean there is 49.5 million who aren't giving a fuck and not picking a single one. lol

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>>137075733
pic related is apparently something unknown, mysterious, and to be feared, according to leftist

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Woah... so you mean there's a labour shortage with the illegal immigrants not being able to work for paltry wages?
So you mean... people that work fields will actually get paid real wages with the demand for field workers rising? Crikey

>>137069190
Then maybe all that poor lazy ghetto trash should lose their welfare and go work in the fields for a living.

>>137072928
>democrats actually believe this

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>>137069190

When darkies beg to pick your cotton!

Have we won?

>>137069190
>refuse to pay people a wage they are willing to work for

This is should be corrected by going around the market and importing slaves rather than paying what the market will bare

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>>137075950
(((They)))
>rely on retardivism

The entire United States is rotting because of Trump *crying with laughter emoji face*

>>137069190

Pay more money

>>137075859
"Don't call them terrorists, it's dehumanizing"
Time to round up all these dumbasses.

>>137075312
Also, "escape" slavery overtones.

>>137074875
If they have to be paid a fair wage, the price of the vegetables go up because it's based on a system of paying illegal workers hardly anything AKA slavery lol

That's why what you wrote is impossible. The left still promotes slavery and will continue to, because things never change.

>>137070671
Maybe you can't get anyone but mexican slaves for $10 because McDonalds and Walmart are starting at $12.

Labor negotiations, Jew. If you can't get workers without resorting to illegal means that means your business model is fucked. Raise wages or change working conditions (more part time shifts vs. working your slaves on 12, ex...) When you reach parity with demand

This is how things worked before the original Unions, who just started killing cheap kikes like yourself.

>>137075352
That's literally what I'm arguing for. The guy I responded to was trying to say that now the Republicans are pro abusive labor, and he pulled up an article about how the parties switched. Unfortunately, his article only talked about workers rights and shit, yet I was talking about how the Dems are basically still pro slavery. They only care about "civil rights" when it's the only way to get votes from a group of people. That's why they are now shilling for illegals, because they know that they can leave them in shitty conditions but their kids will still vote Democrat.

>>137076396
*workers rights, not civil rights.

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>>137075352
>retardivism

Regressive ideology
>Progressive Retardivism

Lol Idiot Lazy Americans still denying the truth that their Big Fat Asses cant carry America Alone. LMAO.

>>137069380
or the fucking companies start paying their employees human being worthy salaries from the astronomically big profit they make.

>>137069407
>We need livable wages bigot
>We need illegal immigrants who get paid $3.50 an hour to pick our crops bigot

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>>137069190

We know this cunt is to good to go out and pick those God Damn bananas that she loves to eat so God Damn much!

>>137069190
Trump should just require people on welfare to accept farm labour jobs or lose benefits. In one move hes removed the spics and put the niggers back into picking crops.

>>137071243
Because if they're legal you'd have to abide by osha regulations and not spray them with pesticides. You can do that to stupid spics because they debase themselves and gladly sell their health for pennies.

>>137069190
So will the farmers pay a competitive wage in an attempt to lure me away from my current job?

>If you don't for me @ $9 an hour I'll let my crops rot

>>137076540

How did America run before all the darkies and Commies wanted to change the American Pie Demographics then?

Shoot Yourself, Right Between the Eyes!

>>137069190
End welfare and the leaches will be forced to work to survive.

>>137074115
Canadian cuck

>>137076540
This. Americans are a lazy and entitled nation. "Protestant work ethic" is a myth.

>>137076879
They're all Old now, think you can replace it with your dwindling population?

>>137076879
Slavery and Jews.

>>137069190
>Literally having slave labor who work in shit conditions for below minimum wage
Dems will defend this

Pay more and people will do the work. Particularly young people and niggers.

>>137076957
Try again, whites still have a birthrate above 2.1 here.

>>137069525
Because once they're here they don't leave.

Concrete is the same way in the midwest. 70% illegals that live local and never leave .

>>137069407
>REEEEEEEEE GIVE ME BACK MY CHEAP LABOR

Seriously though, CenCal fag here, I've dug ditches and shovel shit, I'll definitely pick some crops if they'll pay me.

>>137069368
I tried applying to a ton of farm when I got out of the Muhreens, I put down that I'd take CA's minimum wage and not a single one hired me. I'm not even a white, I'm a beaner too but I guess I was just the wrong type of beaner for these Agri-Kikes in Central California

>>137069190

Its a sad world when hard working people want jobs that are physically and mentally draining just to have the left tell them to fuck off and take their medicaid and welfare, while at the same time defending minorities by saying whites use most entitlements. What the fuck?

LMAO I know /pol/ is right at times. But If they cant replace their Workforce from migrants they will be depending on them for a long time. You Lazy ass White Lards need to Hasten them machines. As far as I see it, you're still dependent on Migrant workers.

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Get ta work ya stupid goy, pick dem vegetables for your masters!

The 2000 goyim slaves the Talmud promised is not slavery if a Jew is in control.

It's only slavery when da white man does it!

>>137069554
>See this is how wages are determined in a real free market system-- by what you can pay citizens to get them to want to do it. This isn't a problem actually and the fact that liberals treat it like one is highly indicative of their lack of understanding on economic principals.

Obviously this!

>>137073494
>urbanites starving
I would pay money out of my pocket for that to happen

>>137077121
& yet none of them are willing to do Work like the migrants did. TRY AGAIN.

>>137074115
Dollar is based on oil dumbfuck
Had to be a leaf.

>>137076938
"The worker is worth his wages."
Pay more and people will do the job.

The reason why Dems want illegals is because they still support slavery. Which is basically how illegals work, a slightly sanitized version of it.

Conservatives care about the welfare of these people, which is why they need to leave the country. Just like we helped the niggers who went to Canada during slavery.

Hmmm. Go to college or pick oranges?

>College hosts welcome event for illegal immigrant students
http://archive.is/x3jbq

>Critics rip University of California for favoring illegal immigrants over out-of-state Americans
http://archive.is/BvOZj

>>137076957

To many people here as it is.

Fuck Off Philly!

Sorry to smash your dreams but we're full!

and for Canada fag slavery was abolished about 150 years ago you dumb fuck head. Min. Wage is the new slave standard ran on fiat currency against our GDP vs. our service. I want the bubble to pop and those responsible be ass fucked for it! Importing more shit skins just floats the raping ELITE the left supposedly cry about then accept trillions in donations from!

KNOW THIS BABY HUEY'S YOUR CRYING HAS ONLY JUST BEGUN!

>>137077259
If we got rid of welfare for able-bodied people, there would be no trouble filling those farm jobs.

Prices may be artificially low as well. That's just a correction that needs to happen.

>>137077391
I'm sorry I'm not willing to commit to slave labor. Maybe if the farmers weren't entirely propped up by government subsidies they would be able to pay decent wages. You don't seem to realize that the farming industry is way bigger than it should be.

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>WE WANT FAIR WAGES FOR ALL
>hey we stopped farmers from exploiting illegal people of color and paying them $10 a day!
>OMG WTF GOOD JOB NOW PEOPLE THAT RELIED ON ALMOST SLAVE LABOR ARE FAILING QUICK GET THE BROWN SLAVE- I MEAN FARMWORKERS BACK!!!!

>>137069190
I already have one. But yeah, these faggots should go get a job

>>137070361
Why does the Belgium tri-color look like somebody pissed on it?

>>137077464
A guy who picks oranges has a brighter future than a guy who gets an arts degree.

>t. I have an arts degree

>>137077523
My relative just got a passport to America & is planning to stay there. WATCHU GONNA DO BOUT IT FAGGOT!? BTW hows that wall going? I bet it's as hard as Draining the swamp, eh?

>>137077740
> WATCHU GONNA DO BOUT IT
Deport him obviously.

> BTW hows that wall going?
They're finalizing the contracts and will start building soon.

How's the ISIS takeover of your country going?

>>137077731
As it has always been.

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is agriculture on this scale even sustainable in Cali? They get water from surrounding states and cheap labor from Mexico. It's like some crony farmer lobby paid off the right people to make it happen.

>>137077603
See, You guys complaining about Immigrants yet none of you would do the shit jobs. You guys are just barking at the clouds. I suggest just drop it.

>>137077740
>Got a passport to America
That's called a VISA, dumbass.

>>137077888
Oh?was he able to make Mexico pay for it?. Lmao keep getting triggered American Lard.

>>137077980
No. Thankfully they got a lot of rain this year, but long term prospects are dim. There is no reason for all those people to live in the literal desert and import their water.

Best case scenario: they secede and lose access to freshwater supply, and then they all die.

>>137078044
Doesn't matter they're coming there anyway and planning on staying.

>>137069190
Kommifornia again/always blaming others for its failure

>>137078193
He always said Mexico was going to reimburse us for it, and they will. There are many ways to deprive Mexico of $1.6 billion.

How are things in Marawi?

>>137077993
I would happily work on a farm if they paid enough to live. Maybe they should pay more.

>>137078252
When their VISA expires, they'll experience hell, and then get kicked out.
ICE's got your IP now ;)

>>137077993
You don't understand. The shit jobs do not need to be done. The reason there are these shit jobs is because of a government regulated farming industry. The American economy is big enough that it should be able to give all non illegal residents a nob slave tier job. However, the government props up small amounts of farmers who own way to much land rather than letting the free market do it's job and force the big farmers to sell off land to others until they can sustain themselves. Then, these legal workers would be able to farm for themselves and make a small but sustainable profit rather than having a seasonal slave tier job.

>>137078339
Military is saying Omar Maute has been killed, the terrorists are in scrambles hiding from buildings. We just keep bombing them till they're dead. Hundreds of buildings from Marawi has been deemed Cleared and its people are being returned slowly

>>137078544
Nope. When I said they were coming to America & planning on staying there, That was years ago. They already have green cards, bro. sorry .

>>137078799
>Military is saying Omar Maute has been killed, the terrorists are in scrambles hiding from buildings. We just keep bombing them till they're dead. Hundreds of buildings from Marawi has been deemed Cleared and its people are being returned slowly
Glad to see you guys are handling that situation alright, it'd be awful to let them get a foothold in the Philippines

>>137076016
It's almost like the actual value of farm work is higher, and our greatest allies were keeping it low through (((diversity))) because americucks prefer spending money on rings for gf and stuff they see on TV.

Can't wait for artificial fruit made from soy!