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RUSSIANS MAKE FIRST MOVE!!! ITS HAPPENING!!!

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HERE WE GO
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do something about it i dare you
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Why are Russians so autistic?
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Wow that's.. nothing
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>>136985477
checked. war soon. Ruskis don;t play
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>>136985257
>international Kerch Strait
Oh no, the vibrant Ukrainian hub of world trade in Mariupol has been shut down...
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>illegally
>a strait between two russian territories
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>>136985257
>russians cut off access when they own both sides of the land

wow wtf how
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>ru-invaded crimea
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>>136985257
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>>136985866
>>136985788
Are you retarded? By that logic Turkey can just shut down the Bosphorus whenever they feel like it. International law forbids it.
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>international Kerch Strait
>international
>RU-invaded Crimea
kek the butthurt is so obvious, you can just taste the anger
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>>136985257
they just want to build a large tunnel/bridge to Crimea, nothing to see here, move along.
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>>136985257
It's fucking nothing. They've done it before.
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>>136986113
thanks rusbro
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>>136985257
thats what the NK sub shills want to slide
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Ruskis, is and does, what ruskis are...
Out of desperation making themselves bigger, as if they matter.
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>>136985762
Well, with the economy already in shitter it's pretty important for Ukraine.
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>>136985257
It's like if Russia started building new libraries & schools in Crimea

>"Russia has illegally begun construction of propaganda centers throughout occupied Ukrainian territory."

The world will never hear the end of Ukrainian butthurt from 2014
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>>136986113
Thanks Vladimir Notin
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>>136985994
They actually make up some retarded reasons not to pass certain ships.
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>>136986529
Are the Ukrainian people genuinely mad about the Crimean annexation?
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>>136986113
how does it feel that youre basically a buffer state?
youre the belguim of the east.
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who cares other than ukies? They don't have a fleet anyway. Just fly Russian flag - thats your solution to any problem.
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>>136985257
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>>136986412
>tfw Ukraine threw away their government for a US-controlled shadow council - just to piss off the ruskies - but then the yanks immediately stopped caring
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>>136985526
Probably trying to stop shipping reinforcing their enemies in Donbass. It's what I'd do.
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>>136987031
>Ukraine threw away their government for a US-controlled
Hello RT watcher
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NOTHING WILL HAPPEN

NOTHING WILL EVER HAPPEN
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>>136987204
It's Trudeau
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>>136985691
It means they have a deal that the US won't interfere if they give up NK
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They are building a bridge there and they notified Ukrainian ship companies that the passage will be closed for some days while they are doing construction works. Russian ships won't pass either, obviously. It's a regular procedure. Kiev is crying to create a drama where there is none.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerch_Strait_Bridge
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Youtube just reccomended this for me
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I'm getting a major deja vu.. I've been in this thread before.. WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING HERE?!?!
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>>136985994
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreux_Convention_Regarding_the_Regime_of_the_Straits
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>>136985257
And? nobody cares about it. bridge must be finished
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>>136985257
If Russia controls Crimea, it's not really illegal to shut down their own territorial water is it?
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>>136986765
lol their name literally means border land
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>>136987878
It's asinine to claim something like this is illegal.

If anything, US invasion of the middle-east was illegal.
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>>136985257
Aren't they building a bridge across it?
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All this escalation... have you heard they're banning people with alternative viewpoints on twitter and demonetising alternative media channels on youtube? It's all preparation for WAR
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>>136988209
Yeah that's the reason why.

Ukraine are butthurt less because it's disruptive to trade, but more because they didn't consent to Russia building infrastructure on "their" land.
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>>136988296
Oh shit. Didn't think about that angle.
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>>136985942
Shouldn't u be more worried? I mean aren't u next up?
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>>136988056
American words have the same value as food and water that were required to produce energy necessary to use brain and throat to generate sound waves about democracy and shit.

Even american vassals try not to speak with american politicians but only ask them give money from amercian taxes
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>>136985257

Ukraine has no navy, merchant or military. And their largest and most important port is not in the sea of Azov.

This is jack shit now go kill yourself happening fag.
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>>136985257
JUST HEARD SKYKINGS ON THE RUSSIAN MILITARY CHANNEL!!!!!!
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>>136985257
Few more days to go....
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>>136985257

About time. The Russians should have done something as soon as they caught Victoria Nuland, Geoffrey Pyatt and Jonathan Marcus planning Ukraine's new government in 2014.
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>>136985257
There is no happening. Ukraine uses river ports for most of it's trade and the port of mariupol' is pretty much useless due to the Donbass war. but as a Ukrainian of Russian blood i motherfucking hope Russia annexes us. everything will be so much better.
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Some Ukranian/Russian Anon please explain this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somalia_Battalion
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>>136985257
>occupied crimea
Don't they own it now?
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>>136988954
They love BBC. The end.
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>>136986688
Patriots are buttblasted, most people don't care actually.
I have relatives in Crimea, most Crimeans are happy to be part of Russia. And Ukrainians know it, so all they can do is scream >muh rightful clay and that Crimeans are traitors. Even though they literally have no claim on it. Crimea was conquered and taken from Turks/Tatars by Russia. Major cities were founded and built by Russia, it is majority Russian and Ukrainians never had any significant population there. It became part of Ukraine just because of some commies, who Ukrainians hate so much instead of being thankful for all the land that doesn't belong to them.
>>136986765
It feels bad that Ukraine exists, it should be partitioned between Russia, Poland, Hungary and Romania.
>>136987204
Hmm...
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/09/world/europe/corruption-ukraine-joe-biden-son-hunter-biden-ties.html
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>>136989047
Archived that
https://archive.is/5EBji
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>>136988954
>It's named like that because according to their now dead commander the members of the battalion are fearless as somali pirates.
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>>136985477

what's that necklace?
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>>136988954
aint that motorolas battalion? or am i just retarded
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You idiots do the same thing over and over.
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>>136987204
Or another one.
What business this war criminal could have here?
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>>136987528


good movie watch it
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>>136988954
It's probably a joke. You're witnessing a post-modern war after all.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparta_Battalion
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>>136988954
Iirc it was a bit of a joke since the media had been calling them terrorists rather than rebels or the like. They were even shouting allahu akbar for a time as well jokingly.

Russians made them stop tho I think.
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>>136989047
ukraine must not be partitioned such way, it is a part of russian living space

it must be only reorganised, of course some parts may become russian.

ukraine was anti-russian project but it can be turned to serve economic interest and expand.
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>>136985257
FLUSHED
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>>136985731
The soviet army is highly motivated skilled people.

The US army is a bunch of drunks, drug addicts, rapists and morons.

The nuclear option is all the US has left in its bag of tricks and the whole world is tired of their degenerate defiling of this planet and humanity.

The day of the rope is here.

Time to pay the piper.

There will be no mercy for the wicked.
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>>136989227
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>>136987204
Cookies for democracy!
I really know you balts love to suck American dick so much, but shut the fuck up about RT. When you can find it all over the internet.
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>>136985994
>international law

People still believe this meme?
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>>136985257
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbzYfAR779A
everything gets better without ukroniggers around
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>>136985257
>Kerch Strait
>lies between Russia and Ukraine
No it doesn't.
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>>136988954
larpers
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>>136985477
Checked. Ptaise Sisyan!
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>>136985994
Are you? You think Turkey decides to hold on to one of the most geopolitically important places on earth just to let anyone they want through? you don't think they'd shut that shit down in a heartbeat if it were in their interests to?

This is like owning an entire arsenal of firearms and other weapons, but then deciding not to use them when there's a pack of wild niggers chimping out and trying to break in.
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Go on Russia!
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>>136989219
>history repeats itself

wow, you're a genius bro dude!!
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Apparently they're building a bridge, pretty retarded that there wasn't a bridge there already desu, it's about 2 miles wide and looks like it would be hundreds of miles if you have to go around.
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>>136988548
Next for what? Denial of access to the ecomic powerhouse that is Kaliningrad Oblast?
Nigga they have to smuggle cheese from abroad, let that sink in
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>Ukraine
>>>/x/

Just annex it entirely please
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>>136985257
russia needs to take back novorussia. it is all their rightful clay.
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>>136986765
>ukraine
>buffer state

no shit. You know why people call it "The Ukraine"? It literally means "the borderland" between Russians and Poles. It quite literally is a buffer state
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>>136989390

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIvRljAaNgg

Who goes in the government who stays out and "does his homework"?
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>>136989338

Yeah, they totally have the upper hand. Thats why Russia already lost Ukraine, save for the extreme East.
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>>136989793
Why not let them have all of Ukraine instead?
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>>136989494
Larpers that blew the UA the fuck out of the new terminal. You guys couldn't even hang onto a bunch of new uniforms without selling them on the black market.

Ukrop fags
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the first move of what
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>>136990011
the bbc into your moms ass
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>>136988942
>neo nazis
Ukraine based?
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>>136985477
This is the ideal male body. You may not like it, but this is what peak male performance looks like.
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>>136989863
>implying Russia wants to adopt that rotting shithole and take on all its problems
Militarily speaking Russia could have taken Kiev within a week when the war first started. They didn't, because Putin isn't a retard.
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>>136989189
orthodox christian cross

true orthodox christians do not have crosses bigger than that, only mafia bosses do
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Any US ships trapped?

We have some of our floating missile defense shield in the Black Sea.
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>>136990122
They're Soros funded (((Nazis)))
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>>136985257
Wew Russia taking advantage from NK-US pression
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>>136985257
>Russian invaded and occupied Crimea
Last time i've checked, pro russians won a referendum
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>>136989338
This.
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>>136990252
Yeah, but Soros himself worked with nazis. Sounds good to me.
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>>136990172

He doesnt want it because the people made it clear what they wanted with the demonstrations. He has no legitimacy and he knows it.
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>>136990122
LOL, but you must buy the CNN/MSM narrative about who the Nazis really are.
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>>136987779
>>136988615
yandeks translation isn't doing a very good job for you today you stupid fucking vatnik
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>>136989944
because ukraine always exist, it is a "borderland" between real slavs (antes) and romano-germanic people (or other shit) and their slaves

but it is too big today, many parts of ukraine are developed and can be core russian lands.

if parts of ukraine will become core russia then ukraine will expand, moldova and parts of romania wil become another ukraine.

that map is good, but a bit wrong
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>>136989193
somali was givi, motorola's meme team was sparta
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>>136985257
Please don't declare on them America, we don't need WW3 with Ukraine as Poland this time
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>>136990084
why were news of this so belated?
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>>136989417
Its just a vocal minority forced meme.
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>>136989778
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>>136989338
US army has strict regulations against alcohol and drugs, as bad of problems as those might be in the US population at large they are not major issues in the military. meanwhile russians are going around shoving broomhandles in each other's assholes and shooting up krokodil.
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>>136990423
>MSM
>who the nazis really are
Ukrainians?
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>>136989863
>Thats why Russia already lost Ukraine
It was never trying to get Ukraine. It's just a bargaining chip in geopolitical 99D poker, brainlet
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>>136990390
Why do you think Putin cares about what Ukrainians want?
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>>136985257
OHhhhhhhhhh nooooooooooooo guys, oooooh it's fucking shit, ohhhh God, i am soooooooooo sorry, it's veryy impooortant thing
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>>136990273
Democracy only counts when (((we))) get what we want, goy.
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>>136990854
In reality yes, but those adherents to the new CNN religion would say otherwise.
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>>136989189
sonichu medalion
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>>136990877
>It was never trying to get Ukraine.
I think he's speaking about political domination
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>>136989793
>No Trieste
>Banat to Hungary
>no Kosovo

If you are gonna Yugoslav do it properly
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it's shut down because they are building a bridge you dumb fucks, its just to aid in completion of the construction.
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>>136985257
>illegally

You Globalists liberals are so cutely retarded.
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>>136990642
SHE DIDN'T REPORT, SHE LIKED IT
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>>136990939
>something about "non-binding plebiscite"
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>>136985257

THIS IS FINALLY IT
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>>136985257
That ain't shit. When the chinks lay waste to the street shitting weakling poos, that's when it starts. Pakis will exploit the even weaker poos, the US will false flag and lay waste to the norks. Then Russia will absorb a few of their missing satellites. Millennials will be drafted to die in droves and liberalism will fade to a distant bad memory.
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>>136985257
Crimea is Russian clay, nothing to see here, sage shitty thread
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>>136989793
>czechoslovakia
>becomes moravia
This was done either by american autist with ties to /his or elaborate troll
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>>136990390
I think Ukrainians would love submitting to Russia if it meant the hostility would end. I think it's the puppet government that's choosing to hold off on folding at the detriment of their people because that's what they've been (((paid))) to do.
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There are millions of Russians in Ukraine who WANT to be part of Russia. it is the Rothchild bankers and the war mongering deep State who are trying to prevent it. Putin is the good guy here but you won't here that from the CIA/Mossad Mafia /Zionist controlled media.
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>>136989189
Nazi swastika
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>>136991995
When communism fell in ussr, there was referendum done in ukraine, asking whether ppl want independence or stay in one country with russia. Big majority voted against the split. But american officials demanded balkanization of russia. Ukraine waw created, but the country had no legitimacy to even exist, so they had to create their glorious history myths and indoctrinate people. Now that one whole generation already lived under tjis regime, they believe the myths and dont want unification hecause they were taught russia is the enemy
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>>136989189
Every orthodox has a simillar cross
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>>136985257
That's OK, I never pass through there anyway.
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>>136985257
Seem to be well within thier rights to shut down a water way they control.
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>>136990814

hahahahahaha and schools have rules about skipping class
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>>136985994
we literally can.
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allright, i read thru all thread and nobody even noticed 'russia invaded and occupied donbass' nonsense in the ops pic... c'mon
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>>136990814
US army is really ineffective though when it comes to something outside of dropping bombs on a thing.
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>Russian-invaded and occupied Crimea
Democracy is only good if you vote the way we want you to, goyim!!
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>>136987204
Joe Biden's son is of their ministers.
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>>136989219
why are jews so upset with the orthodox? the orthodox won't see jews for the gods they believe they are?
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>>136985257
How is it illegal? They control both sides
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>>136985691
this, maybe if it was on the ukraine side but its not even.
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>>136990939
That figure lies on at least two counts: Denmark and Sweden never joined the Euro
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>>136989793
chetnik pls
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>>136990980
please be true
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Wasn't that obvious to happen since Russia started building the bridge across Kerch Strait?
Also
> Ukraine stops electricity supply to Crimea
> Ukraine cuts off water supplies to Crimea
> Ukraine blocks food ferries going to Crimea
> Now Russia blocks the channel
OH THOSE EBUL RUSSIANS!
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>>136985257
Based Putin exploiting the hyped up tension between US and N. Korea to move his position one toe forward.

He's seriously a master of exploiting western democracies' short attention span.
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>>136992779
The disintegration of the USSR had a few more cynical undertones. To maintain a succession of statehood, the RF took on the sovereign debt... with 30% of the former economy broken off.

Yeltsin came in, told the leaders of the former Soviet republics "We're oligarchs now. You have what is yours. Commonwealth of nations, else fuck off". So, what now? Where do we get our legitimacy?? Referendums!

And since 'leaving' Russia (chronologically, it was already done) was a question of debt or no debt, even Russians in Ukraine were in favor.

Later on, Ukraine became a reforged nation, with historians trying to put a wedge between Ukrainian (now expanded) and Russian history, so the populace had to reconsider
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>>136998520
I bet he had his elite hacker army hack both sides to cause the hyped up tension(s).
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>>136987591
Mandela effect
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>>136985477
Literally a white chink
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>>136998462
Attention span.
Sometimes, a Novorossian counter-attack gets branded as unprovoked, literally hours after Ukrainian shelling. And what about the Ukrainian military plane lost in Africa (on a mission to gather mercenaries)?
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>>136999047
Plastic surgeries.
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>>136998873
Hackerbushka
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>>136999208
> Ukrainian military plane lost in Africa (on a mission to gather mercenaries)
Wow, never heard of that.
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>>136989189
Some cheap Hot Topic garbage
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>>136999380
Happened at the start of the conflict, late 2014, early 2015 -ish. Never got major media attention. Page 2 news on teletext. Nobody gave a fuck
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>>136985994
Its legal in Russia though.
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>>136985257
>invaded
Hahahahahahaha
Crimea is Russian
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>>136985994
There is no international law, turkey is the only obe with authority over the bosphorus.
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>>136989047
exactly
Ukraine is turbo Poland = nothing
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>>136985477
>>136985731
>worshipping the guy who wants your country destroyed

You're a special sort of cuck
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>>136989047
Ukraine belongs to Austria.
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>>136999855
We like USA tbqh.
And can not imagine our life without Hollywood and Game of Thrones.
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>>136985866
The block some of Ukraine's coast. Still literally nothing tho
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>>136988954

its a joke mate

RIP Givi btw
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>>136989047
This is all wrong.
My relatives in eastern Ukraine always went on vacation in Crimea.
That's all over.
Crimean communities are left devastated because all tourism has stopped.
Russia has zero resources to give away.
Their grocery stores are empty, and it's all black market shopping once the ferry boat arrives from the main land.
They have regular blackouts since Ukraine cut the transmission towers and lines from the main land. Russia has always promised a submarine cable to provide electricity but it can't and won't happened due to lack of money and resources.

Basically Crimea got played by Vladimir. All good people have left and all that started were basically thinking it would be the Soviet union again with free government checks.

They are realizing life sucks under Russia.
Ukrainians go to Turkey and Odessa for vacation now.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DMY5uLNstv0
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Russia, Ukraine, Donetsk, Luhansk, and Crimea belong to USSR.
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>>137001527
Bpeш!
Tы oceл и дypaк!
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>>136989189
minecraft sword
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https://www.sott.net/article/358816-Secrets-of-the-dead-souls-of-Ukraines-population
Ukraine government goal is reduce population to 20 million
Having its Soviet-built industry, completely destroyed, today's Ukraine simply cannot afford to socially support 30 million people and latently encourages emigration elsewhere. Oleksandr Klymenko agrees and adds that
>the plan of the government is to reduce the population of Ukraine to
>20 million as quickly as possible: old people will die faster from the reform of pensions and the reform of health services, and on the other hand fertility will decrease due to the end of free medicine for expecting mothers and the end of benefits paid to parents of young children.

The falsification of demographic figures hide the fact that the "operation 20 million" is carrying out successfully.
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>>137001527
And then it will all be sold at a fraction of the cost ((()))
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https://www.sott.net/article/358816-Secrets-of-the-dead-souls-of-Ukraines-population

Bread comsumption
A notable Ukrainian analysis shows that the bread consumption had plummeted 55% between 2000 and 2016:

The chart presents statistics of production of different types of breads in 2000-2016 in Ukraine, in tons.
It should be taken into account that in Ukrainian culture the fall of incomes impacts the consumption of bread in a minimal scale or even leads to its increase as the bread often replaces more expensive products like meat and fish.
Therefore, 55% decrease in bread production together with lowering incomes evidence that Ukraine has apparently lost half of its population for the last 16 years.

Number of the schoolchildren
During the 1995/1996 school year there were 7.1 million schoolchildren in Ukraine. In the 2015/2016 schoolyear it was down to 3,783,150 (official data of the Ministry of Education of Ukraine) or 47% in 20 years.

Ukrainian Institute for the Future
In June 2017 the Ukrainian Institute for the Future released a symptomatic report with the following graphics:
Structure of the Ukrainian population in employment terms.
It shows that there are only 12.3 million officially declared jobs in Ukraine today.
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>>136989189
> Its a knife
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HERE WE GO HERE WE GO HERE WE FUCKING GO
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>>137002312
Ukraine government is kike same as russian, ukraine government doesnt have to do anything for the 30 million, just grant them lands to work.
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>>136999842

https://www.sott.net/article/358816-Secrets-of-the-dead-souls-of-Ukraines-population
Emigration statistics in neighboring countries since 2014
From the Russian official statistics the net legal migration between the two countries in 2014 and 2015 was 240,501 towards Russia. In 2016, 194,385 Ukrainians obtained a residence permit and 100,696 obtained Russian citizenship. Another 600,000 Ukrainians living in Russia are waiting a law change to allow them to obtain Russian citizenship. These figures do not include temporary refugees and people with work patents. Also, due to the absence of visa requirements, a significant part of the immigration from Ukanire to Russia is illegal. All this taken into account, we can roughly estimate the emigration from Ukraine to Russia since 2014 to about 2.5 million people.

As to the rest of the world, the main destination is Poland and we can estimate that by the end of 2016 there were 1.5 million Ukrainians working there. The total exodus from Ukraine to abroad since 2014 most likely reached 6-10 million people. However the vast majority of them do not have any permanent residence permits and have to go back to Ukraine regularly.
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>>136985257
Kerch strait lies between Russia and Russia though (Crimea voted to rejoin). Stupid liberals
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>>137001527
Lol, this is such bullshit.
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>>137002447
It doesnt matter what "jobs" there are.
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>>136985994
Yeah, they can. Everyone is laughing at you.
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>>136985994
Lol. Try again?
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>>136985994
It's amusing how UK /US appeal to "international law" - which these countries abide by so spasmodically - like only when it suits them.
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>>137001527

>everything russia touches immediately turns into shit

rly makes you think huh
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>>136998462
You know damn well the jews of the west ignores to report on ukrainian actions.
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>>136985257
well, the economic sanctions levied on Russia was the first move... That was in 2014?
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>be Ukrainian
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>>137003119
Subhuman, both russia and west are kikes.
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>>136985257
You mean it lies between Russia & Russia
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>>136999855
It isn't 1985 anymore
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>>136999855

Putins and Russia aren't commie anymore. As an American, I can only go after commies with impunity.
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>>137002858

https://www.sott.net/article/358816-Secrets-of-the-dead-souls-of-Ukraines-population
Emigration between 2004 and 2013
The World Migration Report 2008 claimed that 780,000 Ukrainians worked abroad, compared to 62,000 people according to Ukrainian authorities.

Russian figures indicate that the net migration between Ukraine and Russia was approximately 292,000 towards Russia from 2005 until 2013. The equivalent figures for Italy from 2003 until 2013 is 206,320 people towards Italy. There have also been 892,908 Ukrainians who received long term visas (over 3 months) to the EU between 2008 and 2013. In total, we can estimate that the falsification of demographic figures before 2014 was approximately one million people who were already living abroad before the 2014 coup. If we add the loss of population in the Donbass to DNR and LNR at 3.5 million, the permanent Kiev-controlled population now should be around 42.5 - 8 - 3.5 - 1 = 30 million people.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qJb8jNc0LI

SLAVA
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>>137003427
No, as whoever the fuck you are.
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>>137003427
You are still our number 1 enemies. It's never been about ideology, it's about the struggle to be the world's dominant superpower.
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>>136988954
Rest in peace Givi i miss u every day
;_;7
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>>136985994
Inbred brit everyone. Eternal anglo retardation.

Do all Brits get lobotomized at birth, or is it a genetic thing?
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>>136985257
>The first move
Yeah old brain tumor faggot McCain arming ukrainians and inciting them to war as well as arming ISIS to destabilise Russian allies isn't the first move right?

Trying to build anti missile systems on Russian border isn't first move right?

Constantly trolling about Russia meddling in elections despite having overthrown numerous countries and literally installed brutal dictators isn't the first move either.

Sanctions? Oh you better believe that's not a first move.

Fucking stupid burger
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>>136985257
But it literally nothing.
It will be closed for three days, for installation of Kerch Bridge main arch, and then reopen.
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I'm turning on CNN and if I hear NK hasn't launched their shit I'll go over there and push the button myself. Please dead God, turn this immoral, heathen wasteland into Sodom and Gomorrah. Shower it with fire and brimstone.
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Why do they falsify?
Alexandr Klymenko
Aleksandr Klymenko, former Minister of Taxes and Duties of Ukraine, offers four interesting explanations for this falsifications:

Trick the IMF and the EU
The international donors seem to use the official falsified figures in their predictive models to determine if Ukraine will be able to pay back. It is obvious that Ukraine will default (it has already defaulted on a 3 billion dollar debt to Russia) and that no analyst could take the current Ukrainian government seriously in this matter, but maybe all this make-believe theater is simply very convenient to transfer Western taxpayer money into the right pockets: several Ukrainian oligarchs and Western companies benefit from the chaos.

Steal money from the Ukrainian people

Oleksandr Klymenko suggests that the falsification could help some officials become richer. Ukrainian apartments do not usually have individual electric or gas counters, the energy is counted for the whole building, then paid by each tenant based on how many people officially live in each apartment. One way to steal money would be to make people who live a large part of the year abroad as much as if they were always in Ukraine, then pocket the difference.

Steal the elections
Until 2014, mass emigration was mostly observed in the pro-NATO Western part of the country. Letting relatives vote for two million people living mostly or permanently abroad greatly helped parties opposed to good relations with Russia.

Minimize the casualties of the war
Officially, Kiev recognizes only 2700 soldiers killed in the undeclared war against Donbass, despite catastrophic losses during several combat phases, such as the Ilovaisk mousetrap. Hiding the real losses of the war helps the government to remain in power: it hides their incompetence, reduces protests against the war, and lets them blame all of Ukraine's problems on the war (which is imputed on the mighty invisible Russian army).
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>>137003725

True, but it's not like it was. Now it's just the usual geo-politics 'huuuurrr muh dicks bigger than yours'. Not nearly as bad.
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>>136997958
> the orthodox won't see jews for the gods they believe they are?
Definitely not:

"O defeated race! O you stiff-necked people of the Hebrews! Once you gave the Son over to the Cross; now you raise your hand against His holy Mother."

"The audacity of the Jew to overturn her coffin! It is the ark of the living Ark, and his hands were severed in swift judgment."
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>>136985477

Where can I find that belt?

>>137003725

But you guys aren't even a superpower anymore. That's why all the Russia fearmongering is just funny. You are like little babies.
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>>137004063
>ID:GQYy0Sbv
>GOY

How prevalent is the Orthodox church in the US? Are they considered "anti-semitic"?
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>>137004004
There is no suchbthing as geopolitics, it is a false creation in order to give identity to post national statea of ussemr and usa of whites, blacks, mexicans and the world.
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>>136989778
Isn't the polish military actually pretty good too? Aren't you guys spending all the eu gibs on that? Anyhow I'm pulling for you Poland, I hope you come out top dog once the eu folds
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>>136999855
You're just butthurt because you're inbred and irrelevant. Literally kill yourselves off the earth or we'll dump our nukes on your satanic excuse of a country.
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>>136985477
Why are you posting the edit? Moscow shill.
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>>137004318
If you had a them then you could unite unrelated peoples and so the rhem was created to created this state of negroes, whites and mexicans.
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>>137003949
God's next judgement will be fire not flood
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>>137003888
Checked.
And >Constantly trolling about Russia meddling in elections
Why doesn't Russia ask for a clear concise explanation of what a "meddle" is.
What does "meddling" look lik, taste, like, sound like, feel like ?
If Russia "meddled" it must be able to be defined and quantified in some way, right?
Otherwise US, BTFO with the"meddle" BS.
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>>137001964
>Luhansk
LuGansk, fuckwit. And it's THE Ukraine and THE Crimea in English.
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>>137004318
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>>137004318
>>137004456
What the fuck am i reading?
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>>136985994
>he thinks international law has meaning

Will the eternal anglo ever learn?
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>>137004548
You cant dispute this, without a false them enemy there is no such thing as USA and this organization of people will have no reasonnto exist.

You are an unrelated peoples that was united to me by a them as well.
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>>13699985
My sides the UK is talking shit, I hope the year 1783 rings a bell
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What the fuck is a Kerch Strait? A water way or a bay of some sort?
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>>137004778

Yes, yes I can.

You're Autistic.
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>>136998280
>sweden, 56,1% says no to euro, outcome: accepted
>denmark, 53,2% says no to euro, outcome: accepted
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>>137004778
The organization of USSR was only supported by a them of western capitalists and in exchange for the legitimacy of this USSR recognized as an enemy the false entity of USA.
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>>136990166
Is this achieveable natty?
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>>136985257
Ukrainia is not dead yet ?

(Lol the joke is that is the name of their hymn)
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>>136989755
There was a bridge, in about a year it was wasted by natural forces. Let's see if the second one holds.
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>>137005121
Without a them the false them antagonist the unatural organization of population groups would never have anything to do with each other.
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>>136990939
>California Proposition 187

Very sad.
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>>137004311
>ID: /b/
noice

It's small, about 1% of the population I would guess. But there's around 2000 parishes so there's a presence in most large to medium size cities.

I would say the majority of Orthodox are fairly anti-semitic. Most of all Syrian and Palestinian Orthodox, for which Israel is a part of daily life. Most I have spoken to would rather live as dhimmis than under Israel's government.

(There is an ethnic component there; in countries where the Arabs are fairly secular, like Lebanon and Syria, the Arab Christians and Muslims see each other as separated brothers for the most part.)
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>>136985994
remainer detected
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>>136988954
what do you expect from a bunch of communist Dumbass cucks
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>>136998280

Because results was obviously accepted.
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>illegally
>between russia and ukraine
>points between two russian ladmasses

Kek

Amerikikes b mad

Its their land , fuckoff Global ZOG enforcment police


Crimea is russian clay, every sane russian and even redpilled westerners agree.
It was literally gifted to a soviet republic of ukraine by the then reigning Commie Dictator of the Udssr.
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>>136989047
fuck off you stupid faggot.
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>>136998462
why should ukraine provide electricity to crimea if it is no longer part of ukraine?
what am i not getting here?
really stupid comparison btw you stupid fuck
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>>137005354
819 hours of inhospitable desert with no food or water seperated this unrelated population group from the rest.
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>>136989047
wow what a sight.
An ukraine flag that doesnt shit bricks violently at muh russaashaaaaa

based little russian
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>>137006225
Becuase Kiev still claims Crimea.
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>>136989793
East Prussia is rightful Polish clay
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>>137004759
The Brit ... thinks international law has meaning
Well, it does when they are "applying" it against others, but of course an exemption applies to themselves.
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>>137004816
How disenfranchised you are.. Everyone else has internet that connects to a search engine.
But you, you are condemned to post in ignorance because you alone lack access to this wizard of the web.
Commiserations to you.
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>>136985257
This is exactly how it will play out, and how it (was thought of to be played out by every country's intel boys).

Russia- gives no fucks, past is proof of the present. Doesn't like sandbugs or dogeaters. Whatever is convenient.
>Turbo charged horde mass, brutal, no fucks to be given unless rape is an option.
>V.S. comic book fuck boys with a star drawn on there chest (that they drew on each other).

Everything is at juicy tasty medium rare STEAK.

>everyone is on the same level.
>Whatever government wins.

>Western forces vs. crazy drunk Vlad
>New S.U. vs. dirty shit skin mudslimes, and a gun farm in the U.S.

Putin, knows his plays. He's making his moves because he trying to stretch the U.S.

btw, nuclear war would undoubtedly give the U.S. a win. They have too many aircraft carriers.
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>>137003725
The EU is a bigger threat to us than Russia for superpower status my dude.
Hell even China is a bigger threat.
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>>137009035
There is no threat to the U.S. but China. China because they can usurp the U.S. by economics. The U.S. is a big, dumb, rich, bully only being held up by his following (by his rules).

Playground tactics.
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Russia is the emerging great civilization during the decline of the west.
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>>136985257
Soviet MiG 29s in 30!!!
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>>136985257
Praise Allah and his messenger Mohammad (PBUH)

Putin will save the Muslims from western destruction
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>>137005959
Shut the fuck up, warmongering amerimutt.
>"hurr be my proxy fodder against le ebil russia because we're too cowardly to fight a real army"
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>>136989047
Based. Stay safe out there buddy.
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>>137003033
Reminds me of that artificial islands story with China.
Hurr China accept ruling of international euro based court that is against you even though you never accepted it's authority. Oh and we the USA also did not accept international court's authority but you should because it sounds cool! What are you evil?
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>>137004111
>all the Russia fearmongering is just funny.
hey your country is being BTFO by Best Korea as we speak, remember? Fat Kim > Trump.
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Can someone explain why crimea isn't russian to a retard?

They took that shit in like the 18th century didnt they?
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>>137006225
Because ukranian official story is "russians force crimeans at gunpoint" yet does all it can to punish local population for voting on secession referendum.
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>>137013701
>ukranian becomes head of USSR
>gibs Crimea to Ukraine in 1950s
>it's automatically forever ukrainian historically and ethnically from ancient times in their minds
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>>137014140
thats fucking retarded
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>>137002447
There's no way the conflict has killed that many.

Military deaths are on the order of a few thousand. You're talking millions.
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>>137014624
It gets better

Ukraine as a country has only existed as a geopolitical wedge against Russia

First in 1917 and again in 1990. The country has only actually existed for a total of about 35 years.
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Ukraine getting sorrier by the minute that they traded sanity for George Soros and Monsanto stealing most of their farmland. Ukraine 0 Global Mafia 3.

Hey Ukies - How's it feel living in Nulandistan/Halleyville?
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>>137014624

Additional fact: "krai" means "territory" or "region" so "ukraine" means something like "outer territory" or "border region". That's why we all used to call it "the ukraine".
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>>137016673
Ukraine was it's own republic in the USSR with full union status and was a UN member.
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>>136990166
GEt the fuck out of here with your shit kikebook memes faggot
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>>137017401
So were a lot of other parts of the USSR

That doesn't make them countries, it makes them federated states at best.
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Reminder that while Putin waving his tiny jew dick around most of the Russian cities look worse than Africa.
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>>136985477
Ugly mongol
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>>136985257
Something something clay slav squat not human Putin drumph maga B1 assange Hillary's emails eating pizza. Alex Jones. Lauren southern is a Jew and night time gay pride parades by Torchlight. Am I missing anything /pol/?
>Kim please launch now. It's so fucking boring here tonight.
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>>137003725
Just letting you know, you're not going to win.
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>>136985257
Maybe because of construction reasons.
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>>137018763
Yes. It will be open/closed for 3 day periods until September or something like that.
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i wish russia would colonize us and just end this degeneracy
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>>136987204
Hello brainwashed moron. Meet the red pill:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSx8HJfBl7U
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>>136985994
theres a specific international law related to the bosphorus

There is no such law for the kerch strait.
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>>136987031
>implying that we've ever cared about any country except israel and ourselves
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>>136985257
Oh wow Russia has attacked 2 of its neighbours and Finland isnt even NATO. Im going to dig trenches or go wit my fathers company to secure his military location. He commands about 100 soldiers.
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>>136989630
hahaha, look at that cuck, everyone is socializing while he's standing there ready for a picture to be taken
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>>137020882
This
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>>137004311
>literally using the KKK one that CNN made up
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>>136985257
This forces the Saudi's to lower the price of oil even more.

Energy wars confirmed best wars ever!
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>>137022736
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>>137022684
>2 of its neighbours
Wut?
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>>137023077
Georgia and Ukraine.
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>>137003725
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>>137023261
Georgia attacked first though
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>average city in Russia
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>>137023774
Liar, Georgians had every right to kill 20 Russian peacekeepers who were officially sent there by a UN peacekeeping mission to separate the warring factions.
Also they had the right to bomb residential areas and kill 2000 civilians.
Damn Ruskies, they separated this area for good now it seems.
Georgians should regroup and try again for the lulz.
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>>137024289
Better than Detroit. No niggers and brown people.
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>>136993441
Please try it, roach.
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>>136986113
Thanks man, my wife is in Crimea right now and I was freaking out a bit.
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>>137024289
>no niggers
lovely
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>>136985257
wow, it's fucking nothing
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> more conflict between Russia and Ukraine
> literally nothing that matters
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>>136986883

That's their real goal. That's why they invaded. Also, their gas pipeline Southstream could follow the shallower coastline where the depth is not that high, as the construction is much more difficult, and only USA has the technology to build at -1800 m. So they are forced to build around Crimea / Romania / Bulgaria, where the plateau is much more easier to reach (50-100 m).
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>>137025095
Based Putin Savior of the white race. am I right?
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Here's another.

>Global alternative asset manager The Carlyle Group has agreed to acquire the entire Romanian business of international energy company Sterling Resources in a transaction worth a reported US$43 million and structured as a corporate acquisition of Sterling’s wholly-owned subsidiary Midia Resources. The acquisition will include four license blocks in the Black Sea and will form the basis for a regional oil and gas development platform. The transaction will be structured through Carlyle International Energy Partners, which will also fund future development of the assets.

http://empea.org/newsroom/the-carlyle-group-to-acquire-sterling-resources-subsidiary-midia-resources-cee-and-cis/

In the recent years there were massive discoveries in the region. The biggest reserves in Europe - also there's no need for long and expensive pipelines from Siberia or Middle East.
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>>137026150
>Based Putin Savior of the white race. am I right?
Hehehehehehe, no
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>>136985994
>international law
lmbo
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>>137026310
If you lurk their hospitals and schools migration is the least of their problems. All their government with their oligarchs friends must be shot for treason desu.
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>>137024289
looks comfy
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>>137024289
Only in bad districts. But even so you can't imagine how fresh the air is there when snow is melting, mix it with good music and you will be much happier than in your boring western shithole.
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>>137022684
We already have some of your frozen wasteland, we don't need more. We had enogh of it to begin with 2bh.
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>>137022684
I see no reasons to attack Finland. All the Winter war was about St. Petersburg was too close to the border, nothing personal.
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>>137030016
>only in bad districts
Nope. As soon as you walk 10 minutes from any city center thats what you see. 90% of them.
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>>136989778
>they have to smuggle cheese from abroad
> Kaliningrad Oblast
why is that?
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>>137024289
>>137023655
>>137026310

you are taking the worst neighbors from rural russian and try to portrait as a place that you never have been, is like saying that detroits is whole US.
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>>137031349
It's Omsk you shill. Do an image search next time.
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>>137026221
Carlyle Group is bush family and dick Cheney
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>>137030891
Economic sanctions.
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>>137016221
I provided links. Look em up.
Argue with the researchers.
Just because you don't agree with, or like a piece of information, doesn't make it wrong.
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>>137011404
the bear will leave the cave forever
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