/ptg/ PRESIDENT TRUMP GENERAL - RECREATIONAL OFFENSE SYSTEM EDITION

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this is now /Joe/ general

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WAAAAAAAAAAAR

The Norks are going to glass all the white babies

>>136967837
First for Joe assassination

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Awooo

>>136967998
>California
All twelve of them?

>tfw too brainlet for bitcoins

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You have 1 minute to explain why you think we should nuke the Norks

>>136968066
They are going to glass all the white babies!!!

>>136968066
We're not going to let some communist fucking shit without trade ties to the US keep ICBMs. It's just not going to happen.

>>136968066
It would be funny

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>>136968058

>>136968066
Cuck chinese out of rare earth minerals.

This is actually a win-win situation for Trump as long as we don't attack first. If Kim does nothing, it shows that the tough rhetoric works and he was backed down. If NK attacks, we have the right to attack them back and we now have China's word that they will remain neutral. This is the best position we've been in regarding NK. Their back is against the wall and we have to do is wait.

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>>136968066
all the qt kpop star refugees will be my girlfriends

>>136968066
Because we should've glassed them 50 years ago

>>136967939

Disavowed.

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>>136968066

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MAGA ON ITS WAY

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>>136967862
>But China tolerates NK right now even though they do all sorts of horrible crap?
China only have any say on anything at all for the past 15 years at most. Their economy grew almost ten times since 2000, people tend to think they were always big but their economy was about the size of the Indian one up until 95

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>same high necked sweater w/collar schoolgirl-esque outfit
>red white and blue colors
All American milf mode Trish a CUTE

>>136967939
There are no interns to murder here.

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>>136968066
They're asking for it

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>>136968066
to spice up the monotony and tedium of life, we all know thats why we want this to happen so just stop pretending

When will mccain kick the bucket from chronic tachicardia induced from the constant threat of nuclear war?

>>136968178
yup
It's check, but not quite check mate
Fat boy has very little room to operate right now

hi friends
nick here
turns out i didnt use BTC:e i guess, i bought in coinbase, which isnt seized by the FBI.

i have the history here of me buying 40 dollars worth (at 900/BTC) in 2013. It also has my address it was sent to.

how do i GET TO THAT?

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>>136968066
Long overdue.

>>136968355
War keeps him alive.

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>>136967837
>>136968017
HAPPENING NOW:

Vice President Pence Participates in Official Governor's Portrait Unveiling (audio only):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbSJjeV9N2E


possible live video coverage may happen here at some point:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74RtAHh3z7M

>>136968058

If you'd bought one on July 31st you'd have made $1,000 in profit. Worst part is I knew the fork was Y2K BS and btc would skyrocket after it proved to be fucking nothing on August 1 and I had zero dollars to invest. At least I have $50 worth of btc that's now worth $70

>>136968066
It will fix a 60 year old problem

>>136968066

Because they will nuke us.

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>Drumpf wants to nuke this
Explain your homosexuality.

>>136968484
Im no doctor but I am quite sure his heart isnt healthy enough for sex

>>136968320
Ok, but China has still kept as an ally for NK throughout NK's history to this day.

>>136968178
>wait
Waiting still lets them continue work on their nuclear weapons. And if they go silent on their saber rattling then how are we going to be prepared if they decide to attack our anime?

Not saying we should go ahead and ramjet some moabs down their throats but waiting has allowed them to develop this far.

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>tfw all of asia gets nuked
>tfw we are finally rid of anime

thank god

>>136968412
>>>/biz/
good luck nick

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>There are people in this very thread who believe North Korea should be allowed to use the threat of a nuclear attack to get their way
>There are people who don't grasp that budging, even an inch, when they played the nuke card in response to a sanction will only mean they'll play it everytime forever; no need for economic leverage ever again, just threaten with nukes
>There are people who think they could actually succeed if they were actually insane enough to try

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>>136968066
It would be funny.

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>>136968165
Truth

>>136968320
>their economy was about the size of the Indian one up until 95
Yet another thing Bill Clinton fucked up. I really hope the pedo probe catches him and he dies in prison.

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>>136968611

>inbred communists
>any kind of asian

absolutely disgusting

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Let`s be honest, it would be only better, if DPRK, PRC and we will nuke USA, world won`t loose anything worthy, just a bunch of niggers and burgers without culture and history

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>>136968542

VIDEO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74RtAHh3z7M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74RtAHh3z7M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74RtAHh3z7M

>>136968657
Now the whole world will be MILFposting.

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sleepy?!

I love prayers

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>>136967976
TO WARRR

>tfw live near an airbase and it's been going 24 fucking 7 with jets I've never seen there before

>>136968066
Threatening our territories

>>136968611

Nothing I can't find at the local nail salon desu

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>>136968765
And pixies

>>136968640
Yes, they did but only because both Clinton and Obama did jack squat towards their nuclear program and so did Bush, embroiled at another pointless bickering. For the past 24 years NK is inching towards nuclear ICBM capabilities and america did nothing. Now there is a president that will likely solve the problem one way or another.

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>>136968802
Amen.

>>136968066

Muh manifest destiny

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>>136968756
>no charlotte

>>136968833
Where do you live? Which airbase?

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>>136968852

>

What's gunna happen if America and NK actually go to war? Since almost all of our production means have been shipped overseas, how are we gunna produce materials for an all out war?

Would you guys take in a Nork traffic girl when she flees North Korea?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZhh3TK4f4U&t=265s

>>136968740
>Yet another thing Bill Clinton fucked up
Yep, there is one reason for Trump to muttering "China entering WTO" at the same breath he speaks about "NAFTA" in all of his rallies. That fucked up US, Japan, EU and the rest of the world.

>>136968066
Nothing personal kid

>>136968872
We will see and now the time is certainly running out the solve the issue before it become unsolvable.

Pence rally!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74RtAHh3z7M

Audrey is there,
Charlotte is back home taking care of Bundo

>>136968951
Is this a dude?

>>136967837
That man is going to break his own arm from patting himself on the back so much.

>>136969064
No. A dude doesn't have an ass that nice.

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wtf military why haven't you done a coup yet of a democratically elected president

>>136968656
I hate to say it but waiting is our only option. If we attack first, we have to be prepared to fight a war with China. If China just agreed to a preemptive strike, everything would be different. The best option would be to form a coalition with SK and Japan. We attack their defenses from the air and allow SK and Japan to attack from the sea/land.

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>>136968802
Saint Michael, the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray; and do thou, O Prince of the heavenly host, by the power of God cast into hell Satan and all the evil spirits who prowl throughout the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.

>>136968926
California. the other info is burger eyes only, sorry m8

>>136969152
I hope not.

>>136969160
Says the chick who only has her nudity left to keep her relevant.

>>136968165
This is more important than many realize

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>no Charlotte

>>136968066
it's been too long without a major habbening

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Virginians, we have a general election on November 7th; Mark that day down and remember to remind your family to vote

Here is what the Democrats want for our old Dominion:

>Northam supports the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare.[28] He also supports a federal Medicaid expansion in Virginia.[29][30]

>Northam is pro-choice. He opposes banning late-term abortions after 20 weeks.[30] He believes the Democratic Party should not endorse candidates who are pro-life.[30] Northam's 2017 gubernatorial bid has been endorsed by NARAL.[31]

>Northam has pledged to "stand up against" Immigration and Customs Enforcement.[30]

>Northam has remained neutral on the building of the Atlantic Coast Pipeline.[32] He has also avoided taking a firm stance on other pipelines such as the Mountain Valley Pipeline.[33]

>Northam voted against a constitutional amendment to make Virginia a right to work state.[34]

>Northam criticized the repeal of the car tax under former Governor Jim Gilmore, saying Virginia still hasn't "recovered" from its repeal.[29]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Northam#Political_positions

I say we use this election to tell them to fuck off

http://www.elections.virginia.gov/

^ Use this to make sure you are registered and ready to vote

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>>136969242
*sheathes cattle prod*

>>136969295
we get a rare Audrey though so it worked out

>>136969160
Spoiler Alert: It still wouldn't be her turn.

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I thought he said governor Eric Holder

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>>136968802
Hallowed be thy name, Amen

>>136969160
In a perfect world, this fucking lowly jewish whore would've been swinging by her goddamn feet already. Filthy little rat faced bitch.

But no. Instead we have "democracy".

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>>136968765
>Now the whole world will be MILFposting.
>>136968852
>And pixies
>>136968951

>>136969214
Maybe you'll get nuked! desu I'd enjoy the happening

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>>136969160
Oh nooo a failed comedian spinster doesn't like me, what will I do???

>>136969295
>even the fridge showed up
What the hell, Charlotte?

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>>136968951
Chelsea Manning is looking good!!

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>>136968747
(you)

>>136969160
>implying the generals don't love Trump
After 8 years of dealing with a nigger they must worship Trump

>kool aid and pb&j sandwiches

>>136968747
Would you look at that, it's not your flag on the moon.

>>136969064
>Is this a dude?

Sara, making heterosexual males question their orientation since forever

>>136969450
Someone had to stay behind at the naval observatory and take care of Bundo anon

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>>136969535
DO IT ALREADY YOU FAT FUCK
ENOUGH WITH THIS 1/8TH STEP CLOSER

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>>136968873
>Contend O Lord, with those who contend with me;
>fight against those who fight against me!
>Take hold of shield and buckler,
>and rise for my aid!
>Draw spear and javelin
>against my pursuers!
>Say to my soul
>"I am your deliverance!"

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Has there been a press conference at all this week?

I dont think Ive seen a single one since Miller slammed down autistic Acosta.

UNVEIL THE FUCKING PORTRAIT!!!

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>>136968951

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So... a Neogaffer has a dilemma

well worth the read

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Mattis give me my grilled gooks already god damnit

>>136969740
gotta get dem stories first

>>136969535
What does it mean?

>>136968951
Who is this???

>>136969788
I'm gonna shop the head of that painting onto so much religious art.

>>136969160
holy fuck, that entire twitter thread is hilarious. Multiple people calling for the assassination of our president. These people have ZERO shame.

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>>136969777
nice digits

>>136969815
Well, their communications aren't disrupted

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malik is a funny guy

>>136969777
I'm not reading all that fucking dog shit.

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>>136969777
> this man is the bane of society
> is crying about how they have to meet a trump supporter in person on an online community for mentally challenged liberals.
> hasn't realised that this person's friend is getting on with their life.

>>136969930
Secret Service is probably being run ragged dealing with these people.

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>>136969434
We really do need a milf pixie other than Geri on FBN, but I'm not sure if many would survive it if there was one

>>136969825
>he's not around for Sara posting
Just some random Aussie model for a mico-bikini company

>>136969777
>I don't know why he's bad but I know he is

>>136969777
First of all, checked. Also, top kek at the strawman he is building. Here is how the conversation will go:

> neogaffer: Muslims area peaceful people
> trumper: whatever, hey babe, wanna go to the bar? your friend can come but only if he doesn't bring politics with him.

>>136969777
>inb4 the Man acts like the perfect gentleman to this faggot and never brings politics up

>>136969535
Friday night in NK. Nothing more.

>>136970058
No name???

>>136970010
Malik President of Kenya when?

>>136969777

I don't think that was worth the read desu

Is he a Finnish autist?

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>>136970072
Here's the result

>>136969535
Full Measure! no half assing yourself out of this one you Flatulent Farce

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>when a Boomer calls you stupid and says you must be a liberal and ignorant when you post on facejew that Churchill is one of the worst public faces of the 20th century after Woodrow Wilson
Laying open an old man about his 5 decades of spoon-fed propaganda never felt so good lads

>>136970115
MALIK 2018: HE WUZ KANGZ

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>>136969535

>>136969713
There were 2 press conferences yesterday with Trump himself
No WH press conferences, the building is completely gutted right now for "renovations"

Damn, that's a nice portrait

>>136970188
veby nice

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>>136970131
>>136969777
Holy shit my sides

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not enough lightning bolts.
Otherwise thats some good art.

High honor and distinct priviledge

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>>136970112
>Sara posting
>no name
C'mon son

>>136970185
kek guam is going to get EMP'd

lololol

>>136970058
>other than Geri on FBN, but I'm not sure if many would survive it if there was one

A long time ago, in one of Trump's rallies, there was this MILF, short blue hair, tatoos, fit and a mother of a small child. Anyone remember her?

>>136968058
Bitcoins was a great idea to get I to 8 years ago, if you tried to get in after 2013 you're a good damn retard
It was always an incredibly Shakey business and an outright gamble from day 1

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>>136970010

We owe Kenya an apology desu, Obongo was more an Indonesian creation.

>>136970188
>no dragon
0/10 see me after class

>>136970131
translation: he got triggered over some dumb shit and his female friend saw that her man was right

Pence looks genuinely touched.

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Your face when:

>Good evening, USA
>Kim, you are fired!
>God bless USA!

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>>136970185
> evan is an expert on nuclear fallout
> predicts nuclear winter
> atmospheric nuclear test
> nuclear winter
> atmospheric nuclear test
> at sea
> nuclear winter

This moron doesn't know what nuclear winter is.

>>136970303
Yeah but the ink + piercings made her just a little too indie, not the wholesome milf we need. Don't think I have the pic of her

>>136970446
Nuclear fired

>>136968315
what is the rune on the nose of this plane?

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>have a package shipping from one state over
>it's not arriving for several days
Thanks a lot drumpf.

I pray to God that my hair gets that good looking silver when I'm older

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>>136970010
>still believing that account is run by malik

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>>136970418
Good throwback, IMO the most successful OP this board ever pulled. Short, on point, well spread, finished soon after mission accomplished. Much like RWSS, although that one got killed too soon by the staff

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>>136970185
With any luck they way overshoot and maybe hit Chicago or Detroit.

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>>136970446
>Kim, you're fired (and furied!)

BABY YOURE A FIRE-WORK

>>136969371
He can honestly win. He has business experience and is loved in his state.

>>136970195
>completely gutted right now for "renovations"
Hope the renovations are by someone Trump can trust.
I wouldn't put it past CIAniggers to put bugs or bombs or polonium or God knows what in there.

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>>136970470
Yeah, she looked just like pic related. Someone have saved it, for sure

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>>136970418
I really think the #draftourdaughters mems did a number on the opposite at the precise moment it was needed. MAGA

>>136969567
He pretty much let's them do what they want right? I know he gave mattis free reign

>>136970556
he posted a bunch of videos back when he was trying to get verified.

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>>136968066
For the lolz

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>>136970547
with any luck I'll look a quarter as comfy as pence, 1/10th as angry as dobbs and half as rich as trump when im older

>>136970676
General Kelly ordered DIA to sweep the White House for bugs
It's completely stripped down
all the furniture removed, paintings taken off the walls, carpeting pulled up
The HVAC renovation, while real, is a cover for General Kelly's bug sweep operation

PLEASANT talking again

>>136970676
>Hope the renovations are by someone Trump can trust.
If they're not, the "inspection" afterward will be. Trump ain't fallin for that bush-league bullshit.

>>136970131

LMAO he was also clearly friendzoned to begin with

>>136970185
EMP and probably a lot of fallout because it'a a filthy nork bomb. Well, as much as any atmospheric test can do.

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>>136970446
>Kim, you are fired!
Kim, you are fried!

>>136970787

It differs depending on the theater. He clearly is not in love with their Afghanistan proposals.

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>>136970688
Found her in the archive

>>136968066
Koreans have no use, all they do is whine about war crimes that have been already apologized for and make inferior electronics.

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>>136970885
Now combined into one image! Beautiful tale!

>>136970576
Yfw Japan gets nuked
Again

>>136970131
I wish her and the man well, may they have a successful longlasting relationship

>>136970824
where are the proofs

>>136970131
There's a Chad Stride pasta for this. I'm sure of it.

>VP of the United States or beyond
AMERICAN MOON COLONY CONFIRMED

>>136971054
I can only share that with US citizens

>>136970824
Then I hope Kelly can be trusted.
>>136970872
Hope so. Trump doesn't seem sufficiently paranoid.

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Guys, why us my spit black?

>>136971113
Anime and Star Wars will be real!

>>136971054
Red lights white house youtube

>>136970973
Man, if she didn't dye her hair she would look so much better. Big time milky potential.

>>136971194

Stop chewing tabacco

>>136970131
C U C K E D
U
C
K
E
D

>>136971119
lies, giv proofs

>>136971162
>doesn't seem sufficiently paranoid.
Means he's on his toes.
>when you are strong appear weak.
>when you are weak appear strong.

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>>136970993

>>136970791
>actually believing a retarded keynan knows about traps and anime
Lord help us.

>>136971194
Do you smoke or work in a coal mine?

>>136968066
WEBMS FOR THE EONS

>tfw west coast
should I be stocking up on some potassium iodide?

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Bernie has hatched a new plan!

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>>136970993

Well, 2 weren't enough.

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>>136971308
Yeah we need a pure pixie milf, I was wrong about Gerri though, she's 57 this year, pushing gilf age. Still looks good though

>>136971194

Have any birthday cake from Walmart recently? That shit will make you crap rainbows

>>136968657
we nuked the nips and got anime in the first place, more nukes=more anime

>>136971346
oh, well, you could go to youtube and watch the videos of the cranes replacing the HVAC systems on the roof tops
you could also, if you wanted, go on twitter and see for yourself that the west wing and oval office are completely gutted

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He looks like he was drawing a bunch of dicks.

DEFEND THIS drawing!

>>136971417
I smoke occasionally, yes. This is just the first time I've noticed. I also just brushed my teeth which threw me off.

>>136971194
>merman... merMAN

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>>136971468
There better not be any happenings in the next 7 hours because im going to class.

If i miss a nuclear war because of fucking numerical methods im gonna be PISSED

>>136971545
It looks like a bunch of extended middle fingers actually

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>>136971409
>actually believe a neet autist fake account would keep posting updates and insight on a internal happenings of Kenya
>actually believe a neet autist fake account would know several languages

Its the real deal folks.

>>136971409

I always assumed he was introduced to those by autists from here spamming memes at his Twitter

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>>136971487
>look, Bernie doesn't get anything done
>but that's not the point!!!

>>136971584
Well that could be it then

>>136971545
Considering his opinion of modern art in The Art of the Deal I bet he laughed his ass off while drawing that.

>>136971545
He's giving them the finger, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, and fuck you.

>>136969825
http://imgur.com/a/YNdyO

Sara. No other information. I hope she did hardcore and someone finds it.

>>136970973
Thanks mate, which rally was that? And which query you used to find it, that was a top detective work Lou

>>136971308
BIG MILKY, anyone got a better angle of her, from the front

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>take an hour nap
>still no happening

starting to think it's a nothing burger

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>>136971722

>>136971658
it's sad seeing our tax dollars wasted like this. He should go golfing like trump does. Thats how Trump gets so much done.

>>136971584
Check you teeth, probably one of them rot and you've uncovered the insides of it.

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>>136971487
>That's not the point

The point is to create a diversion while one of his aids steals all the coffee stirrers and artificial sweetener in the congressional break-room

I just want the norks to hit San Fransico with a nuke and then we kill all of them. Is that so much to ask?

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>>136969777
>a literal walking nazi

>>136971833
It really is up to the norks at this point

>>136970973
>tattoos
>dyed hair
>piercings
>short hair

Absolutely disgusting. Would not marry.

>>136971938
I want the guidance system to fail and for the warhead to veer off and hit Mountain View

>>136971545
Better than (((fine art)))

>>136971938
It'd probably be the only way to clean up all the shit caking the sidewalks at this point.

>>136971993
Probably an old biker mom.

>>136971816
That's the moderload. This is the girl that turn gay guys back to straight kek, better warn pence about that new avenue of therapy

>>136971658
I think the point is that he wants to use it as a litmus test. If you're a True Progressive(TM) Democrat, you'll support the bill. If you don't, Bernie's base will try to Primary you.

>>136971993
Your loss, she look like a good mother of 4 beautiful white kids and do not look degenerate, only inked

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>>136969777
>he's all these thing I'm not an that's why she fell in love with him

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Pence is so fucking classy and comfy

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comfy painting

How is Mike Pence so effortlessly the man I want to be?

;_;

>>136967837
So if china is threatening to end our shit for trying to take out a disobedient nuclear n Korea
Shouldn't we be memeing people to hate china? And to stop buying things from them and to boycott all companies that do business with them

>>136971816
Lord almighty

>>136972188
Be sure to read the follow up! >>136970131

>>136968066
Because they deserve it for blue balling everyone for a major happening

>>136970988
TRUMPED

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FUCK chinks and FUCK insect "people"

>>136971899

This

>>136971584

I smoked for maybe five years before switching to vaping like an insufferable faggot, never had black spit but I also only smoked like two packs a week

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welp

>>136972290
only libtards don't hate china. I've always hated china. Nuke those fucking gooks is what I say.

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>>136970131
>>136972326
if only I was a fly on the wall for this conversation

>>136972484
because Putin was sent here from god just like Trump.

I fucking love that music

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>>136971629
I'm not saying the account is fake. I'm saying he isn't the one posting. Plus there have been threads about the Kenyan election here all week.

>>136972426
I smoke a pack a month tops. I'm able to keep myself from getting addicted fortunately.

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>>136971722

>>136967837

This AIRPLANE looks too happy! I DO NOT LIKE IT!

>>136972290
>Shouldn't we be memeing people to hate china?
Implying we shouldn't be doing this 24/7 regardless to these soulless, bottom-feeders

>>136971194
F

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>>136972504
very nice

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this is it guys>>136972564
>>136972572
>>136972529
>>136972504
>>136972489
>>136972484
>>136972426
>>136972420
>>136972370
>>136972339
>>136972326
>>136972299
>>136972290
>>136972263
>>136972251

>>136972741
>04:29
Fake tweet.

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>>136972741
Thank god. Nuclear war is coming.

>>136972839
That really is nice

>>136972484
trump just keeps on doing it to troll them

>>136972669
Yes.
Embrace the hate of the red commie bastards as it should have always been.
Stop importing their cheap shit and they will shrink back away into obscurity.
This should be a goal of every American.
FUCK CHINA

>>136972113

This would be great, and if the GOP we're crafty and wanted to win they would run ads against Democrat incumbents and supporting their batshit-insane unelectable primary challengers

>>136972741
People really should get banned for fake tweets that aren't meant to be funny.

>>136971362
True. That's what makes it so hard to know what to believe sometimes. That and everyone running pysops on everyone else.

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Does anyone read Korean?
Just saw this

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AAAAAAAAAAA

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>>136972839
>brown hair Charlotte

>>136970131

How badly did he get trashed in the conversation?

>>136972839

I like that his family picture is in the portrait. Says a lot about him. Hopefully he's the 46th president of the United States and not some terrible liberal rebound.

>>136972484
>Signs Russian sanctions

Just as Putin intended?

>>136972958
This shit is fucking surreal.

>>136970872
Weren't that weird light show about a month or so ago a bug hunt?

>>136972958
You're about seven hours late

>>136972959

Dark hair Charlotte is best Charlotte.

>>136968334
>great enthusiasm
>squint his eyes so you can't see him reading off a script
Why don't burgers have these kind of people?

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Drumpf

>>136973072
Trump assassination is inevitable, so he probably will

>>136973050
I'm hoping he'll tell more, but he has not posted anything since.

Baking

>>136972529

Why do people let their doggos get so fat this is an outrage. My turtle is a beast, he eats high-protein fishmeal and works out all day swimming into the glass of his tank. He's a lean mean killing machine. Making your pets fat is retarded

>>136973083
a shameful display of just how deep the state goes that trump had to sign those. Russia is our greatest ally, they just saved us billions of dollars by expelling lazy moocher diplomats. I hope they can send some troops into our country to deal with the niggers next.

>>136972741

FAKE NEWS

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He can't keep getting away with it!

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>>136973112
Imagine showing someone that tweet during the bush era, they'd not believe it in the slightest

>>136973368
I dare Youtube de-monetize Pewdiepie, even a single video. I fucking double dare them.

>>136973260
And now the thread will never make it to 300 kek. Everybody saving their best posts, I'm saving two actually

>>136973457
Who is being sworn in???

>>136973466
People will reply to this with shitposts to get it to 300

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>>136973268
it is very cruel, I Agree

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MILFPosting this thread away

>>136973542
Pence's Chief of Staff

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>>136973183
I just woke up and there's happening going on
Forgive me

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>>136973457
What a fucking time to be alive.

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>>136973466
>>136973548
There's only one thing left to do then

DIE THREAD DIE

>>136973368

quick

run

down

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>>136971308
If you take a close look at her face she is very pretty. Shed clean up good.

>>136973601
It's already over.

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wtf i love joe now

>>136973733
>>136973733
>>136973733
Bread

And now the barrage of Joe Posters will push the thread to 330 before OP makes the new