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Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.

Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.

What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:

>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/

ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1938/09.htm

It is recommended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.

Resources:
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm
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>ML
Not real communism
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>>136963216
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Death to Leftists.
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>>136963133
>>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.

You mean so that pig Kim can stuff his face with his private sushi chef? Or so Stalin can drink all the Western scotch we can? Or so Mao can deflower as many farmer's daughters as he likes?
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Fuck cucktalism
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>>136964849
One of the economic powerhouses happens to be under a Communist regime. I could cite countless examples of failed capitalist states, yet you insist on nitpicking this particular examples. Seriously, how brainwashed are you?
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>>136965443
>affirming the consequent

Commies can't really into logic, can they?
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>>136965672
>China
>Real Communism (TM)
pick one
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Except they got it there under capitalism - so not only are they hypocrites, but liars as well.
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>>136965795
>implying it is not
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>>136964294
>>136964294
>>136964294
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>>136963133
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.

Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.

Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:

>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD
>Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD
>To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people.
https://www.gommies.gom/fug/
https://www.gommies.gom/starve/

GL uses philosphy of gib and starve, see here:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohfugme/

It is recommend you kill yourself so you can avoid starving.

Resources:
https://www.gommies.gom/ohshid/
https://www.gommies.gom/1984/
https://www.gommies.gom/guck/
https://www.gommies.gom/probaganda/
https://www.gommies.gom/XDDDD/
https://www.gommies.gom/wheresfood/
https://www.gommies.gom/benis/

Da sdages of gommunism.

>Sdage one
Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.

>Sdade two
Withering
All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.

>Sdage three
Gommunism.
No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.

>Sdage four
Nod real gommunism. Move on to nexd goundry :DDDDDDD
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>>136965934
... because in the 21st century, 'capitalism' is now double-speak for 'communism', right?
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>>136965672

chinese industry is wholly capitalistic, her government is communist

dude seriously, fucking use a neuron or two
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>>136963133

Death to all communists. Neoliberals I can stand, even if I don't like them, communists I cannot, death to them all.

Fuck off faggots, kill yourselves.
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>>136965934
Tell it to those guys.
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>>136966069

a gubernatorial dogma is nother more then when the "government" chooses to "interfere" with operations of industry

>believing economic system X is better than economic system Y

good job goy
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>>136964680

Why do you say that comrade?
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>>136966397
communism has never been tried.
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>>136966386
China must believe capitalism is better than communism for them to be adopting it, right?
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>>136966164
What is the problem? It is you capitalist cucks, who indirectly support the exploitation of workers worldwide by jumping on rampant consumption of electronic gizmos.
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>>136966641
>It is you capitalist cucks, who indirectly support the exploitation of workers worldwide by jumping on rampant consumption of electronic gizmos.

Are you sure that's really us?
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>>136966641
>>136966760

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/9466585/Chinese-student-sells-kidney-for-iPad.html
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>>136966760
Yes
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>>136965672
>China is communist
>Any country in the world ever being communist at any point in history
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>>136966855
You have it backwards - if we stopped our "rampant consumption of electronic gizmos" there would be no use for slave labor from commie countries like China. That is why leftist companies like Apple always release products with an expiration date.
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>>136966479

Because it is the future
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>>136966641
>Nazi terror
>capitalism
Most if not all of these have nothing to do with the economic model currently employed by the country. Good bait though.
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Oh boy this will turn into a shitstorm thread reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal quick.
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>>136966641
>missing the point
I ain't saying there's a problem mang. Just answer me: does this look like Real Communism (TM) to you?
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>>136966563

define better.

its merely more profitable, especially from a globalist stand point

incredibly hazardous and irresponsible given chinas population (because of health, environmental impact, limited space etc.)

i personally despise capitalism because it is based on the concept of perpetual (never ending) growth. couldnt care any less about religion or race, do want only whites breeding with whites and asian with asian tho, but the capitalist system is flawed and illogical.
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>>136963133
>>136964569
>>136965443
>>136965672
>>136965934
>>136966397
>>136966641
>>136966855
>>136967065
These posters are all faggots.
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>>136967264
Vai tomar no cu, filho da puta
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FAGGOT FAGGOT FAGGOT FAGGOT FAGGOT FAGGOT FAGGOT FAGGOT
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>>136963133
Sell me on socialism
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>>136967361
>damage control
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>>136967306
Morally better.

So is it that chinks don't care how they get their profit as long as it is through some form of cheating?
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>>136967361
no wonder he's a commie, hes a poor person

hey commie anon, try not being poor and stupid and you might appreciate capitalism more
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>>136967726
>no wonder he's a commie, hes a poor person
Happy now, faggot?
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>>136967678
>muh cybernetics
kek

cockshott is a hack who can't even defend his stupid commie apologetics in debate

Marxist "economics" in general suffers from a want of rigor and worldliness
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>>136968018
no, you are one of the richest people ever to live, and you still think you can get "more" by abolishing basic finance and labor agreements
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>>136965672
>that picture
If you think it's a point for communism you really are a rural retard.
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>>136965934
>China
>real communism
topfucking jej. I guess Vietnam is real communism too
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>>136968671
Their idea was that since they knew communism would never work, they would now embrace capitalism, and assert that capitalism is communism as "proof" of the superiority of communism.
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>Communist Party seizes the means of production
>propaganda claims "the people" seized the means of production
>Communist Party does whatever the fuck they want since they have complete control

Why do Commies keep falling for this bullshit?

"Workers seizing the means of production" is an empty meme that falls apart under scrutiny.

Have fun with your unaccountable authoritarian regimes.
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>>136968921
>Have fun with your unaccountable authoritarian regimes.
What do you think capitalism wil... actually already has, lead to?
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>>136966053
Have a free range bless you.
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>>136969083
>free markets lead to unaccountable government
Capitalism isn't a philosophy of government. Communism is.
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>>136969083
More accountable and less authoritarian than any Communist regime.
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>>136969266
You are unbearably naive.
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>>136969424
Forgot pic.
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>>136969424
I'm sorry that objective reality doesn't agree with your propaganda.
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>>136967612

not at all. everyone wants profits. profits is the very foundation of currency and indeed, modern human life.

>you do X
>i dont have to do X (which i hate)
>i give you Y
>i get Y from doing X for this person

ultimate form of teamwork, as every person has different abilities/traits, use them and yourself to everyone's advantage.

a capitalist government and economy is a breeding ground for despair, communism isnt much better as it holds back truly influential individuals, and all (((near))) communist regimes usually include a religious motive.

i personally identify as a technocrat, only heard the term used once many years ago. dont know if its an actual dogma. essentially puts the concept of law (blind lady justice, all things and people are equal) into government. all things - profits, environment, prosperity of the peoples, investment to knowledge, etc - are equal, each decision is made in a unique isolated time and place.

>pro tip
>IQ is useless
>desire to do is all that matters
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>>136969665
>niggers and spics
>people

You commiefags are some funny motherfuckers
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>>136969241
>capitalism can exist without government
lol
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Just wondering if the ML's here are as ideologically brainwashed as tankie twitter's when it comes to genocide denial of Chechens? It's funny watching folk so close to SJWism erase the oppression of a muslim PoC wholesale
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>>136970590
>le niggers and le spics aren't le human XDDD
Le epic meme XD XD XD!!
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>>136971143
I don't care desu
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>>136971184
>still thinking communism is valid

You are confirmed mentally handicapped, or, underage. Which is it?
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>>136969665
Under Stalin it would have been 100%, because with communists even wanting to live is a crime.
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>>136971696
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Help me, Commie-pol! All my capitalist friends can point to hundreds of beneficialinventions democracy and capitalism have given us. All I can point to them that 70 years of Soviet Commienism has given us is AKs and Tetris.
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>>136971997
They only thought that because they were brainwashed, isn't it obvious?
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>>136972300

https://pastebin.com/LFMagdVr
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>>136972300
How about your friends learn to use google
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>>136972638
Now try again with a list of things that weren't stolen from capitalist nations by spying (or from Nazi Germany after ww2)
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SOCIAL ACHIEVEMENTS USSR:

First and totally FREE public education system, which achieved the highest rates of literacy in history in the 15 Soviet republics. Moreover, Soviet schools offered free food for students, so the work-life balance is made much easier than today in the capitalist countries. Even kindergartens were also free.

First FREE and universal health care system, which increased the life expectancy of the Soviets, less than 40 years in 1917, to reach Western levels in 80 (70 years). The achievements of hunger eradication and health systems can also compare with the average height of the Soviets in 1917 (1,60 m) to 1980 (1,80 m). This health system discovered painless childbirth and performed the first organ transplant.

Between 1945 and 1964, the Soviet national income grew by 570%, compared to 55% in the USA (and remember that the USSR was not a Marshal Plan to help the country)

Invention of evening studies so that workers could build careers.

First country in history where abortion was legal and free (since 1920)

First country in history to achieve an unemployment rate at 0%

Equality policies, one of the first countries to adopt women's suffrage

First woman in history to hold a position in a government (Aleksandra Kollontai)
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>>136971997

Trumpers supposedly live in the USA but actually are in an parallel universe. And just like Trumpers, this driver is likely unable to make one criticism against his beloved leader.
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>>136972638

I've been told most spaceflight doesn't count since both USA & USSR used captured Nazis and thus the 3rd Reich should get credit.
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>>136965443
If you use captitalist-created products to decry capitalism, you are a cucktivist
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>>136973266

Tell them about the father of astronautics:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konstantin_Tsiolkovsky
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>>136973499
Explain
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>>136972978
How does ANY of that even matter if you are just going to get sent to the Gulag for even wanting to live?
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>>136972532
>American
>telling anybody they were brainwashed
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>>136972978

Stfu retard. You have never lived in this socialist garbage dump
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>>136973657
Is that because you are trying to brainwash me, so I shouldn't be telling anyone they are brainwashed because I'm being brainwashed myself?
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>>136971997
so many gulag dead
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>>136973619
>How does ANY of that even matter if you are just going to get sent to the Gulag for even wanting to live?

bullshit propaganda, also ironically there are more people in jail in USA right now than there were ever in Gulag
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>>136973619
>USA
>5% of world population
>25% of all prisoners
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>>136973777
Fake news is not even close to being a recent event, lad.
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>>136973611
I mean unless you are posting on a Venezuelan smartphone using Cuban wifi, you are controlled opposition – the demand part of supply-and-demand.
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>>136973883
So you're saying I wouldn't be jailed for telling Stalin how gay he was?

>>136973925
Are you denying that those people in prison committed crimes to have gotten them there?
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>>136973611
You don't practice what you preach, so why take you seriously?
Jung had something similar to say about "nihilists." Basically, if you really believed nothing mattered, you'd just lie there and die. Instead they eat, sleep, often work and have families, etc. Thus their behavior belies their lie.
Similarly, you spent either your or your parents money, earned as the result of a labor transaction, on a computer produced by for profit private businesses to bitch about capitalism.
You're a big fat fucking liar
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>>136974005
>implying there is a such a thing as ethical consumption under capitalism
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>>136974020
>So you're saying I wouldn't be jailed for telling Stalin how gay he was?

Why would you do that?
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Communism is the solution.
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>>136963133
>The Spaniard going at it again.
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>>136963133
Hello comrade, I too am of liking to cram many pointy objects into butthole as of possible. I bleed red like mother russia comrade!
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>>136974162
...to obesity
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>>136974154
It is the truth.
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>>136974118
You're consuming right now. Your protest of capitalism is as morally indefensible as my defense of it.
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>>136974162
The final solution to the communist question? Yes, all commies need to be burned.
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>>136974411
>haha why aren't my political opponents starving themselves
>this is a reasonable thing to ask
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>>136974020
I'm saying America's system of for profit prisons is corrupt to the core
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>>136974578
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>>136974570
Join a collective (you won't)
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>>136964569
>next stage of humanity
>social need
>stateless
>controlled by working class
>having fun
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Guys, remember to put sage in your options bar.
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>>136974578
>>136974738
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op you pathetic waste of skin dont you ever get tired of trying to brainwash the summer lads
you eat shmegma op fuck you
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>>136974411
>Implying I supported Obama
You are confusing liberals and leftists.
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Damn it guys ,actually, just ignore the thread, please, the retarded Spaniard makes these shitty threads all the fucking time, don't even bother.
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>>136974570
Are you talking about the Great Leap Forward?
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>>136975108
>Damn it guys ,actually, just ignore the thread
He says while posting in the thread
triggered?
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what does spiderman think about communism?
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>>136974897
So true, bro.
Here is some socialism from Comrade Pol Pot.
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>>136974738
The entire concept of lobbyist is marxist socialism. The government can't hand out favors if it is powerless.
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>>136974799
>adhering to a lifestyle will bring about the system you want
>somehow
>if you're a not a lifestylist, you're a hypocrite
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>>136974518
>>136975238
Fuck off hohol
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>>136975438
Why is there a nigger kulak?
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Hey guys, let's just say I am hungry for power, how can I incite the masses to revolution so I can become a dictator like Stalin?
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>>136974482

>the US considers a fridge a luxury
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I'm sick of living in a marxist society, it has done nothing but kill my people off with niggers and muds. If you think what we have now is utopia, you need to wake the fuck up.
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>>136975321
>wants to build communism
>ignores Russian who already tried building it and failed
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>>136975306
Well joining/creating a collective/commune will be a good practice for your regime, you can try all sorts of policies until you can make your system real communism without killing millions in the process of trying :^)
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>>136975856

>we live under capitalism
>is the fault of Marx
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>>136972978
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>>136975886
I really want to put you into a Gulag more than anything else.
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>>136976232
Hungarians lived under communism too you know.
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>>136974578
America too does have a problem with communnists, they are called "social justice warriors". They are about to go the way of the kulaks, so things should hopefully improve.
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You leftypol cucks still doing this shit?
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>>136976173
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>>136967678
Sorry, but no city will ever look that good with niggers. Try again.
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here come the dead gommies
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>>136976361
Why are you replying to me? Your post has nothing to do with what I posted
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>>136976063
>Zapatistas did that
>had the Mexican military at their gates for 10 years
I see your game :^)
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>>136976313
See >>136976232
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Finns are great
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>>136976173
The Soviet Union never progressed beyond the state capitalist stage of the communist process.
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>>136976723
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>cartels felt threatened by the communist presence and bribed/extorted the government to remove the commune/collective

Maybe do it in a country that doesnt have literal cartels in charge?
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>>136976723

USSR was undemocratic planned economy socialism under Stalin
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>>136976099
How can you say we live under capitalism? I don't understand. Is there or is there not a forced distribution of wealth from hard workers to the lazy and sickly? Is there not a monolithic militarized state that threatens to kill you if you refuse to redistribute your wealth? Is there not forced social equality for workers under threat of death? Is there not forcibly regulated regionally monopolized utilities network? Nothing about America or Europe is capitalist at all. Lobbying can't happen under capitalism, neither can insurance barriers, nor monopolies.
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>>136976912
Or maybe just accept the fact that peaceful solutions are not on the table.
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>>136976985

Because socialdemocracy is still capitalism (there is private property of the means of production)
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>>136977132
Thanks for the bumps friend
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>>136977123
How is there private property? It's government land, and if you don't pay taxes on the land that you might have purchased entirely, it is still taken away from you. You own nothing, you only work as a slave to the monolithic superstructure that is government.
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I've been saging pal :DDDD
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>>136966053
:DDD
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>>136975856
This isn't Marxism, it's the death throes of international capitalism expressed by materialism, consumerism, progressive liberalism, bourgeois individualism and nihilism. If you're a fascist, you should reject both international capitalism, and dialectical materialism, or the abolition of private property and enterprise in lieu of a deeply nationalized form of private enterprise which is rooted in cooperation between the worker, state and corporate interests.
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>>136977456
No you have been bumping the thread, I saw you
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>>136977456
>doesn't know you can't sage when posting images
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>>136977613
>>136977612
;)
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> be hardworking farmer
> commies came to power
> they take all your shit which you earn with hard work
> the give it to dumb lazy drunkers
> send you to siberia just because you aren't lazy drunker
the end.
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>>136974570
The idea of you starving is kinda funny – have you considered Venezuela?
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>>136963133
I have lived in your friggin communism and it does not work!
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>>136977785
i'm kidding. After that they would take all your food which you made in siberia for years of hardworking. and made you starve. Only evil imperialist capitalist are helping you survive with USAID.
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>>136977716
>pictures of dead people
>le epic quality right wing memes
Try harder
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>>136976232
Thanks, my grandpa spent 7 years in a labor camp in the Donetsk region. He never talked about it, but I always knew it was not "fun". When he returned home, all his family land (a few acres that provided a living to my maternal family was confiscated, and they were declared enemies of the people, for owning a shitty piece of land.

I think you have no fucking experience or relation to communism, you are just a braindead videogame NEET who thinks parading around in ANTIFA T-shirt and red banners is fun, and it's somehow a valid ideology. It's fucking not.
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>>136977990
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>>136978037
This.

>>136963133
Stop posting. Anytime.
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Why are commies in western countries so fucking fat? They clearly are taking more than they need, shouldn't they cut their daily calorie intake and give it to a starving homeless person?
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>>136977582
I never said I wasn't a fascist, and do reject globalism and materialism. But you can't argue that what we have is capitalism, because that's wrong as fuck. I believe in the strength of individuals though, individualism is a key part of fascism, you are totally free to do as much good as you want. You are rewarded for being better at what you do than others, and you can get more than just what you need. This is the foundation of National Socialism. It's completely about personal merit, and unity with others also doing all they can to make the world better.
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>>136976232
Nobody here is going to the gulag, xir. We'll just use some of our Bitcoins to fly away from you in a shiny airplane
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>>136978133
Well then why don't you move there, faggot? Build your shitty utopia on with your ten fingers.
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>>136978037
>>136978119
I'm so sorry for you...

>>136978208
Because there is no real commies in the west. Just dumb hipster kids.
They would be sent in gulags after real socialist revolution.
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>>136978133
Venezuela is really failing due to socialism. The women and children are suffering the most and it's all your fault
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>>136978119
blabla I couldn't care less about your grandfather or anything else you wrote.

Bet your grandpa would be proud of you shitposting on an anime image board.
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>>136978208
They prepare in advance for socialism, because then there will be nothing to eat.
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>>136963133
Serious questions here:
>What happens to lazy or incompetent people?
>Where does innovation come from?
>What stops the government from becoming a tyranny when everyone "agrees" we're all the same?
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>>136978454
>falling for fake news this hard
okay
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>>136978459
So you don't care about anyone's experience in communism if it isn't positive?
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>>136978459
Why do you hate yourself so much? I know your father wasn't so hot but why take it out on 4chan?
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>>136963133
Did you know your political system is fantasy? Every base assumption of its crock "theory" is demonstrably false, and the deadbeat guy who wrote it applied none of the rigor required of descriptions of reality meant to be taken seriously.
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>>136978611
If it's so great why don't you go there?
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>>136978267
>Doesn't understand that Chinese miners control more than 51% of the Blockchain.
>Doesn't understand that if the Communist party of China wants to control the blockchain it easily could.
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Commies = Nazi.
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>>136978844
If China is so great why don't you go there?
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>>136978844
You need to control 95% of blockchain to REALLY control bitcoin.
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>>136978874
The Nazis are better. No one killed more Russian people than Stalin.
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>>136978930
China is capitalist state actually.
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>>136978945
Math is oppression, Vlad
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>>136978619
I don't give a shit about effeminate losers who try to activate my feels by telling me personal anecdotes about how tough life was for them, toughen the fuck up you whiny little bitch.
>>136978657
>You are what you just said about something else
le epic comeback
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>>136979041
Maybe.
Nazis are killing other people.
Commies are killing they own people
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>>136978400
>>136978459

You don't need to be sorry for me, you need to be sorry for this larping faggot who thinks "muh gobbunizm iz best". My grandpa survived because, although they were driven until exhaustion, summer and winter, he has known nothing but hard work from early childhood and he got used to it. The only thing he hated about his experience in the Soviet Union was potatoes, he refused to eat them for the rest of his life, although he said that was the best meal they got there. On not so lucky days they dug out the roots of trees and cooked it. This commie nigger faggot probably has never heard of people trying to survive by eating tree roots.

>>136978459
You couldn't careless because you are fat faggot who never knew what communism was. You literally spitting millions of people in the face who never knew a life where things weren't forced upon them.
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>>136965672
Name one country on the planet where communism works...you can't. Every single one of them has failed. If your so enthralled with communism, move to China, North Korea, Venezuela, or Cuba. You know why you won't move? Because your a larping faggot that plays at revolutionary.
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>>136978945
>What are forks
51% are enough to control all Bitcoin transactions
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>>136979136
Why are you so easily triggered? Man you're easy to jerk around! :^)
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>>136979278
Not an argument.
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>>136979248
>You don't need to be sorry for me
I am because you are a sorry existence and you should do everyone a favor and kys, you are such a loser that you spend your free time on communism general, making up lies and trying to convince people that your family had a rough time under communism.

Nobody gives a shit about you being a lying whiny little bitch.
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>>136979136
Wew.
>commie can't figure out how to work with the free market instead against it
>commie cries about the evils of capitalism because too much of a faggot
>commie calls someone else out for being a whiny little bitch when all they do is bitch
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>>136979385
>I was merely pretending to be retarded.
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>>136979458
So only positive experiences are true?
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>>136979538
>bring me back 100 Nazi scalps and a dozen eggs. Dinner's at six – your father gets home never
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mmm.. gommunism is cool
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>>136979532
>helicopter ride lmao XD
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why are commies so useless?

philosophy aside, ive noticed that most commies and other far leftists are just generally not good at things and have very few skills.

alt-right dweebs are just as bad because they are usually internet-dwelling NEETs, but conservatives and pro-business types generally have some hobbies and household skills. Communists, though, they're always inept at everything. Can't cook or clean, can't build or repair stuff, can't really do much other than argue on the internet, and they're even usually bad at that.

What gives? Why are lefties so inept?
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>>136979458
Not lies and my families experience was not even unique. Millions of people had the same fate under Soviet control.

And it's you who are spending his time glorifying a shitty ideology that lead to the death of up to 100 million people and you still refuse to learn from it. You are worse than an actual commie genocider because you refuse to learn from other people's mistake.
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>>136979385
>get called out for making third grade arguments
>other guy is triggered because my pathetic argumentation style is actually really cool
Maybe someday you'll grow up and realize that saying "No you" is retarded and pointless.
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>>136979295
> what is soft fork
> what is hard fork
> what is uasf
> what is bcash
> what is sw
> what is sw2x
> what is ny agreement
You're pretty much retarded. Don't you know that chinese miners already lost their fight for bitcoin? (sw vs bu)
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>>136979249
Venezuela is not real Communism
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>>136966053
ebery dime :DDD
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>>136979810
Dude, take a deep breath and go eat some carbs. Just like every day
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your stupid niggery fates, fuck off our board lefty pol, you can't even make your own memes you just reskin ours.
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>>136979538
>s..stop being so mean and listen to ass backward retarded as ideas *sniffle*
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>>136979802
Your family supported Nazis and lost a world war, but you can't pay the price of losing a war?

You are sad and weak, Stalin was too nice to Hungary.
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>>136979861
Lol, try and get /leftpol/ to talk about the JQ and watch the heads explode
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There could be shitty capitalist countries.
Socialist/Communist regimes are fundamentally totalitarian.
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>>136979802
My great-grandfather was robbed of all property and exiled to the North. You can say that he was lucky.
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>>136979278
Again, you can't make an argument for communism, because its never worked. Try and name just one country where true communism works...you can't. Dickheads like you learn from faggot commie professors that this is somehow the way to go. So then...why don't you move to a communist country? let me answer that for you, its because your a larping pussy.
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>>136980007
Do you need us to draw a map to guide you back home? I mean come on, it is not that hard.
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>>136968083
Where is that one country which had communism and is richer than the rest of the wolrd?
Where is germany?
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>>136979788
>triggered
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How do we rid the Communist movement of hedonist Gays and self righteous "intersectional" "feminists"?

The workers are suffering while the Communists and Socialists refuse to unite
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>>136980371
China! Worker's paradise!
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>>136980212

>what's the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie ?
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>>136963133
Ok, for once i will accept to study this ideology.
Would you recommend the communist manifesto as a first book to explore?
Wich one got you into marxism-leninism?
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>>136979838
Bitcoin is outdated crap and they didn't solve the issues if anything they just kicked the can down the road, ethereum is better.
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>>136980322
Name one communist nation that is doing well, and just so you know, China is not one of them. They are not operating under true communism according to Marx. Are you going to move, or just whine about this like a faggot?
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>>136980429
Uhhhhhhh those are the useful idiots that set fire to cop cars during stage one. They get shot just before stage two.
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>>136966053
Perfect, saved.
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now for memes
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>>136980429
The last time you dumbasses united, you had your asses kicked in Berkley. Its really funny how you dumb fucks have really shied away from anymore "protests" huh?
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>>136966053
fucking epic
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>>136980107
My family didn't support nazis because, "Hey let's fight for Hitler until we die, sounds fun!", but because my grandpa and his brothers (one of them died in the war) were recruited and refusing to go meant prison or death. It was not Chelsea Manning style "I'm faggot now, you can't execute me!", but life and death.

You are a fucking piece of unorganic shit that your mother shitted onto this world with no brain, no humanity, no empathy for millions of people who died because of a brain dead fake utopia that never worked in whatever form. I wish you had to work in -30-40°C for just one single fucking day with nothing but cooked barley soup and fish bones. Call that a Happy Meal®.
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>>136980932
Those were progressive faggots. Antifa are silly and are braindead neo-consumers. We don't like them either

In fact I'd much rather get along with fascists who agree with ending capitalism
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Socialism is outdated crap and they didn't solve the issues if anything they just kicked the can down the road, capitalism is better
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>>136980981
>We supported the nazis but we totally didn't support the nazis and Stalin was mean to us
Yeah fuck off you whiny little bitch
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>>136980944
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>>136980630
Name one capitalist nation that is doing well, and just so you know, USA is not one of them. They are not operating under true capitalism according to Marx. Are you going to move, or just whine about this like a faggot?
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>>136981180
China.

/thread
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>>136980515
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>>136981180
Singapore
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>>136981122
He didn't say that.
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>>136967361
>BUTT MUH GOMMUNISM!!!!!!!!!!!!
>AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHGHGHAHGHAGHAGHAGHUGUUGGUIIIIIIIIGH
Thanks, thread/
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>>136980981
Why are you trying to explain something to him? The Communist is not a man.
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>>136981122
No, you fuck off back to the psychiatric ward (leftypol) because that's where you belong, faggot.
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>>136981070
And again, why don't you move to communist country then faggot? Its because your a pussy, and the best you can do is larp on an internet forum while trying desperately to defend a system that has utterly failed in every country it was in. Put up, or shut up.
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here it comes
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>>136981362
I just do it because vile pieces of shit must be confronted with reality.
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>>136981180
Not an argument. So then...are you going to move, or just copy and paste?
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What does OP do for a living?
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>>136981612
He will deny all of this.
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>>136981363
You are in Communism General faggot and trying to tell me about how your nazi ancestors were good people who were horribly mistreated by evil Stalin.

If anything you lack the cognitive ability to reflect on where you are posting and what you are posting.

Little bitch go back to your hug circle on leddit if you are so upset someone calls you out on your pathetic lies.
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>>136981634
EBT to xoom swapping
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>>136980593

Yes, is the perfect first read on Marxism, then before reading capital it is better to search some introductory books on marxism, and read "the state and the revolution" from Lenin too as introduction. If you want to read about cybersocialism read ''towards a new socialism" from Cockshott and project cybersin/OGAS.
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>>136969034
>CEIZE DUH MAENS OB PHRODUHKTION!!!!
>LITERABLY STARBE ALL OB DEM
>NOD REAL GOMMUNIZM!!!
Hey; kys already.
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>>136981612
I don't know, you tell me. Is there any point in arguing with idiots?
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>>136981362
>>136981567
Nazi faggots circlejerking in Communism General, can't you fuck off to your NSGB threads if you need to be gay like this?
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>>136981754
>Stop speaking negatively about my favorite political system with using real experiences
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>>136981754
Why are you so triggered by this guy? Obviously nobody is buying what you're selling. Get a job, loser.
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>>136981634
Nothing, and likely will be working a minimum wage job with a useless degree in feminine studies or some other SJW nonsense. He also will not answer the question as to why if he thinks communism is so awesome he does not move to a commie country.
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>>136981793
Come on, be nice. Xe probably crafts fine alloys down at the mill. Swinging hammers and other labor type tough-guy stuff.
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>>136981864
The Communist Manifesto was originally a Jewish scam for Jews to overthrow gentile governments, then get full control with no private property and tie it to a central bank (Marx came from the same bloodline as the Rothschild family).
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>>136981864
>chomsky

Every time!
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Still waiting for the commie larping faggots to explain to us why they don't move to North Korea, Venezuela, or Cuba. Still waiting....and your still here.
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>>136971997
>It was worth it it!
>Driving around all comfy.
>As 20+ million of my own kind DIED for being teh criminalz.
>HOW CAN GOMMUNISM BE EBIL, I HAB TEH GUD LIBE AND I WUZ DAH GUUD OMFG UNGRATEFUL GULAG VICTUMZ!!!!
Ftfy.
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>>136981959
Stop being a faggot
>>136981962
Hey can you tell me why lolbertarians and Ancaps are upset over google firing that guy for what he said? I obviously agree that he shouldn't be fired, because of snowflake liberals, but why do Ancaps/lolbertarians think Google shouldn't fire an employee it doesn't want to employ?
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>>136982116
Shhhhhhhhh quiet goy
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>>136982260
Commies in the US think they are already there.
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>>136982252
elaborate
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>>136981943
I cannot wait torturing Jewish children to death.
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>>136981943
Telling you about real communism is not circle jerking. It's you who are jerking here to red flags and climaxing to the image Marx and Lenin. You are a sick fuck with your sick fuck, murderous ideology with which your only real connection is your T-shirt that you think is "cool". Millions of people died because of this shit and you are glorifying it like things never happened.
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Well...why are you not moving? Communism is so fucking great, and the USA is shit, right? Why don't you move? Why are you still here? Can't get a passport? Mommy wants you in by curfew? Why are you still here?
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>>136978247
Mosley warned against sweat shops and said this would happen if we turned a blind eye, that those exploited peoples would be imported into Europe with a few white surveyors, undercut native labour and increase native unemployment and job security. This is the consequence of international capitalism which only concerns itself with profit.
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>>136980593

Also... critique of the Gotha Project is good after reading the manifesto
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>>136982373
No...you stop being a faggot. Why have you not moved? Communism is so great, but yet you don't move...why is that?
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>>136982373
I really don't care, other than it's interesting that it violated the law. He'll probably come out set for life.
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>>136973499
-internet made in the state sector

-computers also made in state sector

holy fuck, get out
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>>136982675
>WE WUZING on modern technology.
Sad.
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>>136977990
the one with the 70% private sector?
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>>136982675
A good Jew is a dead JEW
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>>136982479
I was clearly referring to the post of you where you were circle jerking with some hohol kulak.

I don't give a shit about your lies on Communism, and you can lie all you want it won't change the fact that you are a gay ass liberal who is trying to convince me that Stalin and Communism were bad because of
>muh gorillions
Fuck off bitch
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Crickets from the SJW commie wannabe faggots. Still no answer as to why they have not moved. Better contact your professor to see if that asshole has an answer.
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>>136981754
>nazi ancestor

You retard, I bet you have never even seen an army in your life. Recruiting is not "I guess I won't go, just have fun without me". If you refuse you break criminal law and face prison or death. But you don't get this, because the only time you see reality is when you flush the toilet.
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>>136982373
I'm the faggot for simply trying to get you to listen to real life experiences behind the iron curtain?
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>>136982819
KILL ALL JEWS
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>>136982664
Fuck off faggot
>>136982666
Maybe, don't really care either, just seemed like a lot of libertarians were upset over that story. Made me wonder what kind of ideological reason they have to oppose a company firing an employee it doesn't want to employ.
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>>136982819
>K-KULAK, LIAR, STALIN DID NOTHING WRONG.
Pure denial.
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>>136982421
Well, he obviously knows who really controls society, the true nature and purpose of Marxism. But he can't say. So he writes around the issue. Huge cuck.
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>>136982819
Why don't you move then? Why are you still in the capitalist West? Its funny how you don't answer these questions. Larping faggots, and your not even good at it. You guys can't fight, organize, meme, and get your asses handed to you in street fights. Well...why have you not moved?
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>>136975438
>When you realise you were wrong, but you can't even at rite now "I can't", and you could've had the farmers back as farmers and had your shitty system going a little bit longer, but nooooooo.
Hue nice meme cuckboi.
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>>136982951
And you are just a whiny little bitch who is making up excuses, man up bitch.
>>136982954
No you are a faggot because you like to eat ass
>>136982986
Retarded but whatever.
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>>136982808
i agree, if you mean zionists
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>>136983104
Not an argument. Answer the question if you can. Oh wait...you can't. So tell us faggot, why don't you just move? What could be possibly stopping you?
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>>136983202
Fuck off faggot
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>>136976099
>BUT MUH MEANZ OF PHRODUHCTIUNZ!!!
Kys.
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>>136983365
Fuck off faggot
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>>136982819
It's you who is lying and you won't even admit it, although you know inside that you are jerking off to something that is nothing but a huge pile of dead bodies.

You open a shitty thread, people tell you to stop it, because you are glorifying mass murder and then you call them liars. When was the last time you ever opened a book about communism? Not Fat Ol' Charlie Marx, but an actual history book?
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>>136976424
BURY IT DEEP YAMAGUCHI.
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>>136983365
question why do you people insist venenzuela is socialist eventhough it has a 70% private sector?
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>>136982675
>Tetris was made in soviet Russia
>therefore all entertainment was made in Soviet Russia

If this is to convince me of the failure of capitalist education it's working
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>>136983314
>F-FAGGOT, RETARD
You are acting like a child, Eastern Europeans come on these threads to talk about their experiences and all you do is deny.
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>>136983488
You are a filthy liar who is full of shit and you should kys
>>136983550
Fuck off faggot
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>>136983314
Just what I thought. When presented with the logical argument of why don't you just move, you resort to this shit. You won't move, because you can't or won't. The only thing you can do is whine and cry about communism and that its so great, but yet refuse to move. Why is that? You can't even make a good argument can you? Damn boy...no wonder you guys have zero political clout in the West.
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>>136982792
NOT REAL SOCIALISM :^)
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>>136983611
>Fuck off faggot
Is that all you can say?
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>>136983414
>>136983449
>Fuck off faggot
>Fuck off faggot

Gobbunist ideas don't seem to give you too many good arguments, do they?
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>>136983414
>>136983449
>>136983104
If there was a NatSoc country today i would move there in a fucking heartbeat and work my ass off to prove that i am worthy of living there and prove everyone that national socialism actually works, why arent you willing to do the same comrade?
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>>136983414
Not an argument. Can't answer the question can you?
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>>136983549
state invented it, you lost faggot go back to eating burgers and taking prozac, you retarded sack of shit
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>>136983611
How many people died in commins, asshole?
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>>136983104
I dunno. I'm not really AnCap, there just isn't a centrist flag
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>>136983704
Actually I was calling you a filthy liar, who was inventing stories to get attention, because you are a filthy attention whore.

I called the other guy a faggot because he sucks dick.
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>>136983767
>national socialist country
>move there
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>>136983695
now your not even making sense anymore. can you grasp you sanity for a second and elaborate?
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>>136983449
That's it? That's the best you got? Damn man...you suck at being an advocate for communism if you can't even explain to us why you will not move to a communist nation. Sad.
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>>136983801
>How many people died in commins, asshole?
A lot of people, mostly of old age.
>>136983817
Hm ok.
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>>136983848
>If it's a negative story then it didn't happen
That's all you are doing
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>>136983920
Fuck off faggot.
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>>136983797
I can't eat food because property is theft and if I eat something it becomes part of my body and I can't own it T_T

Which state computer are you using now I want one. They're free, right? :)
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>>136983985
>If it's a negative story
emphasis
>story
No evidence, just a Hungarian attention whore lying about Stalin.
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>>136983797
This is the only kind of "communism" you have ever seen. Lewd girlies with red stars. You think this has anything to do with pic related?
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>>136983702
Yep, that's about all these faggots can say. they will laud the virtues of socialism and communism, but when asked why they don't just move to one of the countries under commie rule...crickets. Larping faggots that know nothing of the real world.
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>>136983907
I can't help you if you can't understand words and the meanings behind them
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>>136983449
Hey senpai, KYS already.
Thnx
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>>136984137
I can say more, but the guy is a faggot. Kind of like you. Instead of making a direct argument you are circle jerking, fuck off to /NSGB/ that's your thread faggot.
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>>136984334
>Not an argument
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>>136984073
your going off topic, keep sucking zionist big banks and stay out of political discussion.

also, civic nationalism is absolutly retarded just like yourself.
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>>136983537
>ID WUZN'T REAL GOMMUNIZM/SOAUCIALIZM!!!!
Honestly just die already, thank you.
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>>136983924
You piece of shit. Learn to read and stop lying. Tens of millions of innocent people, unborn babies, children, mothers, fathers, all sorts of people died at the hands of the henchmen you call your "comrades".
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another great thread, see you all in the next one
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>>136984100
He said it was the experience of a family member, you should at least give him a chance instead of calling him a liar because it doesn't fit your definition. I am going to stop posting now, because i don't like giving you the satisfaction that this thread is still up.
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>>136984335
I'm gay and very suicidal please do not say faggot :(
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