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China & North Korea vs USA || Predictions and Strategies

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Let's be real here: China knows it cannot win this war. We know they aren't dumb or insane, so that's the only conclusion they could come to.

>Why?
USA mainland requires either flying or sailing to reach it (that goes for both troops and any ordinances). And the US has the largest and most advanced navy and air force in the whole world. This instantly puts China in the disastrous position of needing to fight the war on the ground in their own lands while the enemy dominates your seas and your skies. They can't even reach America's closest ally in the region (Japan) as that would also require evading or defeating the US fleet or air force. China's industry also dies a rapid death due to the strangulation caused by the blockades, which could force China to do something drastic.

A land invasion of China could be accomplished but that is not a smart decision, therefore the war in China will consist entirely of bombing raids both deep into China and on their ports and industries lining the coast. China will likely keep filling their factories with children so that the dead and mangled bodies can be shown to the America people, so the US would be clever to bomb near a factory first (to get it evacuated or at least make the children run in terror) before bombing the factory proper.

The land fight in North Korea will be the roughest part. China will be able to fight on the ground there and, despite the incredible advantage the Americans have with air and sea superiority, they will put up a hell of a fight.

What do you think will happen, lads?
I personally believe that the Chinese will ship north via trucks in order to safely ship out materials from Russia, which would put both Russia and the US in awkward and potentially hostile positions.
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russia joining means that the EU or at least Britain will also join. not gonna happen.
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>Xinjiang
New Central Asian state
>Tibet
New Central Asian state, Dalai Lama head of state
>Inner Mongolia
Integrated with Mongolia
>Guangxi
Integrated with Vietnam
>Hong Kong, Shanghai, Macau
Independent city states
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>>136962444
I could see Tibet and Taiwan becoming free states if China goes all-out in the war. If they join in name only, then maybe only Taiwan will be freed.
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>>136961443
US land invasion will start from Afghanistan into Xinjiang, meanwhile a simultaneous invasion will spread into Tibet through India.
>>136962707
I was stating what the result would be once the war ends. The remaining China would be ruled by Taiwan.
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>>136962444

Guanxi has 50 million people. Why would it integrate with Vietnam?
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>>136963491
Separate state then
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>>136961443
Russia and India will side with US
Why? GIB CLAY
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>>136961443
I'm chinese living in America, will you guys let me live?
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>>136961443
Russia won't join. Too much to lose, too little to gain.
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>>136961443
China will break it's treaty with NK if war happens.
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>>136961443
Correction:
China & North Korea VS the United States, South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, India, and maybe some other NATO members.

China would be retarded to defend North Korea, especially since Russia has stated they want no part of this.
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>>136963793
>Gain: Eastern Europe.
>Lose: Literally how?
>Difficulty: European skeleton army that has gone through numerous cuts in the snow while Britain manoeuvres the boats.
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We're fucked
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Maybe I miss some memos, but it wasn't China who started to deatch from NK because of the Kim Jongo Un exponential autism?
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>>136964241
detach *
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Why do you believe China will support NK and opt for a war that you admit they can't win? If they know they can't win it, as you say, why the fuck would they fight?

China has nukes pointed at them from almost every conceivable direction. Nobody wants it to become a battlefield. Not the Chinese, not the Indians, not Pakistan, and definitely not Russia. If they cooperate with the US, they'll probably get a partial annexation of North Korea and a shitload of international goodwill.

China would never enter into a war with the US on the part of North Korea. The buffer is important but it isn't that fucking important. The entire premise of this thread is retarded.
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>>136964297
This.

Honestly Trump should be pressuring Xi to clean up this mess. Its china's goddamn problem not ours
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>>136963755
Yeah gook, you're safe. No one wants a war with China, it's Fatboy we want. If China could just keep from getting into a dick measuring contest we will be fine. China could end this in a few hours if they just take Kim out of the picture.
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>>136961443
I don't see why China just doesn't do the easy thing and invade NK and make it part of China. All the U.S. wants is them to stop acting like a bunch of aggressive niggers.
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>>136964297
China will rape the USA 6 days a week and twice on Sunday in a war on the Korean peninsular. They forced a draw in Korea and won in Vietnam even when they had shitty mass produced commie guns nevermind with the relatively modern equipment they have today.
>But SK and Japan.
SK's army is inferior even to the NK army and their capital is right next to the border with half their population while Japan has a glorified self defence force that isn't suitable for holding ground. The entire war will be USA holding the ocean and a few cities on the southern tip of Korea while supplying those bases from Japan.
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>>136965165
You're retarded if you think China will go to war over its autistic little brother
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>>136965165
>China will rape the USA 6 days a week and twice on Sunday in a war on the Korean peninsular
And in the process, it would entirely destroy its service economy which entirely depends on our consumerism. This isn't 1950 or 1966. The nature of China has changed completely and they have become more interested in economics than ideology or territorial control. Your pretend war with China simply isn't going to happen. Even if they did, for some fucking reason, enter into a self-destructive war with the US and its allies, they'd entirely lose any Russian support which would, again, hamstring their economy and set another potential enemy on their doorstep.

China would stand to lose:
all international goodwill
its relationship with Russia
its massive export economy
its confidence in its relationship with bordering nations

And for what do you think they'll run this risk? For a tiny fucking buffer zone against the influence of South Korea? By backing the US or even just remaining completely neutral, they'd have everything to gain internationally.
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>>136965769
>its confidence in its relationship with bordering nations
No Chinese bordering nation has any confidence in China. They detest Chinese expansionism.
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>>136965907
I meant China's confidence in the fact that they won't be instantaneously invaded by the allies of the US, which in this bong's hypothetical scenario, they would be engaged in a potential world-ending war with.
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>>136965556
They did once. Its about maintaing control in the region and keeping a US puppet off of their border.
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>>136963755
I don't have a problem with gooks who came here, they are obviously smarter than the ones who stayed
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>>136965556
If USA first strikes they will. War isn't a great cost when you aren't fighting across the pacific. They wont be landing invasions in the USA but you can kiss SK goodbye.
Of course if you half-ass it like Iraq or late war Vietnam then you might be kissing Japan goodbye as well. The chinks are itching for a reason to kill a few million Japs in revenge for WW2. Fortunately the USA will at least keep the seas monitored in 98% of non-retarded cases.
You're retarded if you believe that China wont defend a neighbour which is easily reachable by train.
>>136965769
If they reunite Korea under NK rule then China's influence in the region would undergo an evolution. By having NK, Mongolia and Vietnam under Chinese influence there will be no one left in the region that can oppose Chinese ideals. A commie union of some sort would pass practically unopposed. With the Korean issue settled then China can focus its sights on the South China sea region as well as reacquiring Laos and Cambodia for Vietnam with little that the USA can do about it as cordial ties will have been cut.
China doesn't want to cut ties with the USA but it wont hesitate to do so when the rewards and the justification are great enough.
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>>136966557
>If they reunite Korea under NK rule then China's influence in the region would undergo an evolution
So, they'd gain a very small amount of territory while risking WW3, turning a ton of the world against them, losing their largest economic partner, and making two countries with a lot of nukes incredibly nervous on their western border (Pakistan and India), not to mention what Russia might say about all of this.

You're fantasizing and it's pathetic.
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>>136961443
>Let's be real here: China knows it cannot win this war.
the US likely doesn't know much about China's full military capabilities, and everything you are told by the MSM concerning international war bell ringing is a lie.
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>>136967272
In a USA first strike scenario it's the USA that is risking the world against them. Socialist international wont take 5 minutes to declare Trump the new Hitler and call together an international coalition to put the democrats in charge.
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>>136967421
Not to mention they fought us to a draw before their more recent build up and modernization
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>>136967685
>In a USA first strike scenario it's the USA that is risking the world against them
Yes, because North Korea enjoys so much international support. They make the entire world nervous. The US might make the world nervous as well, but it's at least learned to live with us. Our power is already established, whereas ignoring North Korea just increases how dangerous they are.
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>>136968041
North Korea is a regional threat. For Western powers it's literally nothing which is why it hasn't been bombed to shit like Serbia. If South Korea is removed then the only reason to continue being concerned is Japan and Taiwan.
As long as the three bigs, UK, France and Russia don't intervene then every other country in the world could pile on and it wouldn't be much more effective than the USA fighting alone.
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>>136968510
>North Korea is a regional threat
Quite a large region. You're silly if you believe anyone in the world is treating NK like a regional threat. Again, stop fantasizing.
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>>136968950
You're the one fantasizing if you believe the international community cares about North Korea more than Iraq or Syria.
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Honestly I'm excited to see what cool new weapons we would use in a war with China or the Norks. We've spent billions in R&D in past decade, and you know someone in there has to be a fallout fan so wth a little luck we'll get some power armor.
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>>136968950
>mfw not in range
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>>136964009
>Gain: Eastern Europe.
How the hell is Eastern Europe involved in any of this? The US isn't going to suddenly give it to them for nothing, it would be nuclear war.
>Lose: Literally how?
By getting all of their major cities and industry glassed?
>Difficulty: European skeleton army that has gone through numerous cuts in the snow while Britain manoeuvres the boats.
It's the twenty first century, grandpa. Armies and Navies don't mean shit when you've got thousands of nuclear equipped ICBMs ready to evaporate millions of people in a matter of seconds. Putin isn't retarded enough to send Russia back to the dark ages for a chunk of Ukraine or the baltics. Stop getting yourself excited.
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>>136971172
>Nuclear war over North Korea.
Just lol. Even if NK glasses Seoul it's going to take more to convince Russia and the USA to start arming their nukes.
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>>136971172

>How the hell is Eastern Europe involved in any of this

they are nato puppets

>The US isn't going to suddenly give it to them for nothing

we are not asking US, we will take it

>By getting all of their major cities and industry glassed

our anti-missile system is based af
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>>136971400
>reading comprehension
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>>136971430
>they are nato puppets
Yeah, no shit. I'm asking what that has to do with the NK situation. Spoiler: nothing.

>we are not asking US, we will take it
Good luck

>our anti-missile system is based af
Again, good luck. You won't be missed.
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>>136961443
I typed a long reply but hit refresh :(

Briefly:

Good thread, intelligent convo

Good point about emo manipulation- has US ever anticipated and planned around that before?

China threats are meaningless, they do it everyday with India.

BUT IF war breaks out- Russia won't take sides openly. But will try to prolong for attrition.

Taiwan will declare indepdece

India will take its territory back.

The only reason India doesn't fuck pakistan is because China has their back. So India and Pak get in.

Israel offered to stop Pak's nuclear program (http://indianexpress.com/article/explained/in-fact-did-india-plan-a-covert-military-attack-on-a-pakistani-nuclear-reactor/) but we blocked them.

So Israel comes in.

What else?
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>>136971514
I understand that you are only 13 but nuclear war isn't something which is likely to happen any time soon.
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>>136971915
I never said there would be nuclear war over NK. Learn to read, you fucking idiot.
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>>136971905

>Taiwan will declare indepdece
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>>136972059

Come on Russbro, you of all people should know what I'm talking about.

Go read a little maybe?

Also, to the greek faggot who's going to inveitably mock me for the same- go read up a little
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In the event that war does not break out and the Norks keep doing what they always have been doing, is there any way or scenario where Trump can come out of this not looking weak?
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>>136971999
>The US isn't going to suddenly give it to them for nothing, it would be nuclear war.
The whole thread is about NK faggot. If you want a magical Russia vs USA war then make another thread.
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>>136972206
He was literally replying to you, dipshit. You said Russia would gain Eastern Europe, as if the world would just lay down and let them annex a gigantic territory. How fucking dumb are you?
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>>136961443
>usa superior blah blah crap

you don't understand 1 thing - you have a president and ruling party that is not favorite among almost the half of your citizens

once war starts, usa could be destroyed in partisan battles inside with at such low price

> all those lefties and sjws, all these city dwelling idiots indoctrinated or partially indoctrinated with marxism because muh diversity just waiting for instruction

you can say thanks to bill and hills

if war escalates expect it at your doorsteps from your fellow Americans

P.S.
oh look helicopter ride as captcha, nice one ;)
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>>136963225
>US land invasion will start from Afghanistan into Xinjiang, meanwhile a simultaneous invasion will spread into Tibet through India.

t. no concept of logistics
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>>136972206
You mentioned Russia invading Europe for no reason. I said that would lead to nuclear war and that it has nothing to do with North Korea.

I know you're being disingenuous to cover your own ass but you already look like a massive retard so you might as well own up to it.
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>>136972498
A beach landing is the best
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>>136972463
Eastern Europe would be aligned with one side or another. If the Europe gets assblasted while the UK and the USA are playing boats in China then naturally there are going to be territorial gains exactly like after WW2.
Or do you believe that continental Europe has an army? Or that the UK wont simply watch as continental Europe falls?
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>>136961443 invasion of nk is bound to happen one day , one cant let it grow more stronger now when it has ICMB and nukes.the sooner the better

if china joins openly taiwan/tibet will see freedom, plus more democracy and porn in china also its fianancial gain will dump , USA want china to join so that it can be fucked up
chinese and NK toys dont hold up to USA might eagar to crush before something become stronger to crush

china WILL support its buffer state at least through proxy , but a full USA invasion cant be prevented plus china loves dicatatorship and trade dont want to loose it over a dictator might

korea will be fucked , koreans wwill soon taste democracy and internet
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>>136961443
>USA mainland requires either flying or sailing to reach it
don't underestimate Best Korea
>bomb near factories
Smart move, better than intelligent bombs (who the fuck writes such a shit, and who approves it)
>The land fight in North Korea
Russias Tanks with USA air support . Get your shit together with Russia, get out of Syria, and let the EU pay for the oil, stop pandering to the Sauds, just wait and let them eat themselves.
on a side note, strengthen the ASEAN and break with Pakistan and side with India. With Russia, one could crush Islamo fascism and the chines militarily as economically. If the cabal will is one world, axe the UN and bi a half polar world, with Europe as queen bitch
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>>136972512
The premise was Russia coming to the aid of China against an international coalition. At least read the post I responded to before shitposting.
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>>136972467
>once war starts, usa could be destroyed in partisan battles inside with at such low price
What do you think the US is, Venezuela? It's not like we have an overly militarized police presence in every town, large and small, all over the country. You act like there would suddenly be anarchy in the streets or a coup or something. You're hiding your flag but there's no way you actually live in American and are this retarded.
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>>136969843
radiation will spread and we dont want to loose hot american beauty .
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>>136972873
> we have an overly militarized police presence in every town

that only fuels the fire my bro, you already know how the lefties look at this;
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>>136965165
>forced a draw in Korea
Nope. The US was like 50 miles from the Chinese border and then Truman remove MacArthur from command and ordered a withdrawal to the DMZ because conquering Best Korea was explicitly against the UN mandate. Fag.
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>>136961443
war with china will also reduce world population
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>>136972858
This whole thread has nothing to do with Eastern Europe, you braindead faggot. You're the only one who brought it up and now you're backpedaling because you look like an imbecile.
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>>136961443
China is trying to build a solid reputation of inclusive congruity on a global scale. There is nowhere a way they would sacrifice ANY of that for some fat kid in a shit tier nation with a population less than 100 million.
If China were to make ANY move on this, they'd be falling right into a trap that the jews likely set up to cause further conflict in the region.
/THREAD
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>>136973280
>What is NATO.
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China wants to wage a war confined to Korea just like last time. They're betting that if the US wasn't willing to expand the war to China back in the 50s when only the US had nukes, why would they be willing to now? It's a reasonable line of thought.

They have exactly the same motivation to support Kim that they did back then.
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>>136973422
Pussies and a roach
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>>136973366
>/thread
You don't /thread yourself, faggot.
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>>136961443
The war will go nuclear before 99% of what you think will happen happens. China won't dare hit American territory and America won't dare hit Chinese territory. All the fighting will be over international waters and the Korean peninsula nowhere else or the war goes nuclear.
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>>136973422
An organization that's wholly uninvolved in the NK situation aside from the US?
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>>136973223
Do you know how political protests that border on riots have gone in the past 10 years? A few black people stand shoulder to shoulder in a road until the police yell at them to disperse, or just divert traffic and ignore them for an hour until they go away. People don't have the attention spans for that sort of shit here anymore, not when they can just put their noses back into their phones and ignore life around them.
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>>136973511
Horseshit. This is the new china we're talking about. China is working to build a good reputation here.
This is also a new USA we're talking about here.the USA is attempting to re-establish its position in the world.
This, plus keep in mind the jews are trying to find a way into China, if china wages any kind of war, the jews will get their chance.
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>>136973570
>USA calls up UK and friends in NATO for a coalition invasion.
>NK calls up China and China calls up Russia.
>There is now a front between Russia and continental European NATO.
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>>136973560
> China won't dare hit American territory and America won't dare hit Chinese territory. All the fighting will be over international waters and the Korean peninsula nowhere else or the war goes nuclear.
China wants to avoid fighting at all cost. The Indians are on their flank and both nations are in dispute right now.
Russia can't back China up because they lack funding and are under sanction.
China also can't lose ANY money because they've manipulated their currency to the state of hyperfragility.
Everyone who isn't NK and US are larping and NK is at the mercy of the US and their dipshit leader
right now.
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>>136973511
A few things changed since then though:
1) Nuclear armed NK
2) China has become more than a thorn
3) A maverick president
America would hold China responsible if NK uses nukes at any capacity.
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>>136973422
Something completely unrelated to this situation?
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>>136973541
Thats not /threading myself faggot. I was responding to OP' post.
Lurk more you raging cock addict
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>>136973801
why should Russia get involved on Chinas side? Why should Russia get involved in any way, except if someone promises them parts of NK
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>>136973934
Why would Russia take parts of NK? It's literally nothing compared to their current territory
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>>136974075
It would allow russia to park assets closer to Sokorea and japan.
Strengthening its ties with china
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>>136961443
Guys don't bomb us we are white pls
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>>136973801
>shit that will never happen and makes no sense at all
Wew.

Yeah, I'm sure the USA and Russia are just itching to fight a continental proxy war in Eastern Europe over NK. Take your own advice >>136972206 and fuck off with your little fantasy.
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>>136973796
China doesn't believing in soft power. It believes in hard power. Hence the economic sanctions on Korea as revenge for THAAD, kidnapping Hong Kong booksellers, harvesting political enemies for their organs etc.

China believes that power alone garners respect and to an extent it's hard to argue with them. They are just as sinister and vicious as ever, just now they have money so people organizations corporations and governments suck their dicks
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>>136974075
Forest Industry
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>>136974205
Post white women from your nation. Make sure we can see their nipples. They had better be pink
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>>136963620
Russia doesn't have any territorial disputes with China, AFAIK
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>>136974205
ley ho
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>>136974204
and this, not to forget the pipeline project with Japan
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>>136974298

We are suffering from lack of forests
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>>136961443
China moves in to occupy part of NK in order to stop NATO having a direct border with them.

If Trump has sense on the issue he coordinates with them.
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>>136974298
top kek
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>>136974428

Not even close blyat, to korea
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>>136974428
>>136974414
>>136974392
>>136974313
>>136974298
>>136974262
>>136974243
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> Anonymous (ID: ARRQUPTG) 08/11/17(Fri)21:04:51 No.136
>>136974205
>>136974204
>>136974075
>>136973919
>>136973916
>>136973902
>>136973890
>>136973801
lets inform CNN
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>>136967828
America has never stopped or even slowed growing its military since then. While every other nation (including China) chilled out and wanted to save money, they kept building and inventing and innovating. Their aircraft carriers could singlehandedly force a Chinese surrender.
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>>136974262
>kidnapping Hong Kong booksellers, harvesting political enemies for their organs etc.
None of that tinfoil hat shit is proven.
>China believes that power alone garners respect and to an extent it's hard to argue with them. They are just as sinister and vicious as ever, just now they have money so people organizations corporations and governments suck their dicks
China has no problem asserting its power over non american nations. What china, along with Russia and Iran want, is to prove the USA to be an agressor and bully. This would justify any actions toward the US.
the game changed when the world started suggesting the USA was too powerful and was becoming abusive
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China has ONE ally.

Russia has many.

China can not count on Russia, and their only ally is NK.
China is TERRIFIED that south Korea will unite, because historically China can't even defeat Korea.

China can not defeat ANYONE.
The only thing chinese people are good at doing is dying in the millions.

Note that when I say "china" I am referring to the rulers and those who follow them, so the communists, and the collectivists.
China is the weakest country in the world, and will most likely pretend it wants war, and will give north korea MASSIVE amounts of aid and soldiers and make it seem as if they have a giant underground city, but in actual fact the whole time the communists are getting in private planes and leaving to switzerland.

The country will be without leaders, and china will be taken over by someone else, and there will be another bloody revolution.
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>>136974631
Why do you keep posting this bullshit?
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>>136961443
and thats where you wrong, if america goes alone in to war china and NK can win.


America is cuckt because of the big mouth.


He said fier and flames now he has to go thru with it or there will be no respect for america and thats how WW3 will start.


So what will it be? First trike and WW3 maybe should in flames or Americas down fall?
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>>136961443
Te next 3 nights there is meteor shower. This will set off nuclear alarms and cause a response launch. North Korea will get multiple in coming warnings by the shower. Get ready for the fun I say they hit Tokyo first.
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>>136974631
fake gay and you should die by radiation poisoning
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>>136974516
There is never enough wood
>>136974630
further south the pointed line, would be better if you dont have to pay big kims tax and not have to go through fucking whole japan
>>136974631
Declaration of war trough Twitter MFW
link please
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>>136974751

>Russia has many.

tbqh our allies are chinese allies too, so as Belarus, Iran, Syria, Cuba and Venezuela

>China is the weakest country in the world

they didn`t loose the war to emus
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>>136974902
Ok I know nork tech is pretty shit but I'm pretty sure they can tell the difference between a rock and an ICBM.
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>>136973919
You're a stupid faggot.
You don't give your opinion and then say /thread - which is /thread-ing yourself. Lurk more newfag.
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>>136973801
I'm surprised you think Euro countries could add a whole lot to a coalition at this point. Even countries like the UK that had governments 100% in favour of Iraq notoriously shafted our armed forces on the ground.
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>>136961443
I have a real simple plan

>for some reason shit goes down in NK
>SK, USA attack from south, take land
>China attacks from north, establishes puppet/buffer

Kim is THE problem.
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>>136973801
mhhhhhh a 3 front war.

Now why should Europe fight for Americas interest?

You think Europe is that retarded?
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>>136975179
If Russia gets involved, NATO will jump at the chance to fight Russia.
They've been trying to do so for years.
How effective EU portion of NATO is while dealing with all the immigrants from Africa, idk.
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>>136975059
>they didn`t loose the war to emus
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>>136975303
>Now why should Europe fight for Americas interest?
Because fighting Russia is in the EU's interest.
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>>136974751
Daily reminder that the only reason North Korea exists today is the 1951 Chinese zerg rush.
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>>136975059
do you think any of those countries will aid china is a war with us?

I didn't think so.

if iran lifts a finger is will be flattened by israel,
if syria... oh wait
if Cuba... oh wait
And venez...

hmmm yeah see the pattern here?
China is dead in the water.
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>>136975303
No, currently every gayro is parked in the welfare state to house the poor pets our fucking dykes have imported. europe isn't going any where soon, except disintegration
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>>136975131
>You don't give your opinion and then say /thread - which is /thread-ing yourself.
Its not /threading yourself if youre responding to a post you massive faggot.
Summers over, shouldn't you be studying for you degree in faggotry?
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>>136975059
>they didn`t loose the war to emus

you've never fought war against emus so shut your fuking commie mouth already
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>>136972873
Not to mention if they did try a coup like that, there would likely be an equal or greater reaction from Bubbas and right against them rapidly arising. You'd see just about every grown man in the South and Texas go out to meet them in force too, regardless of party.
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>>136975413
No it isn't. EU is all ready mad butt hurt over the trade sanctions. Russia was a huge market for European firms.
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>>136961443
There is no NK vs USA. That is a fucking joke. We could waste them in a matter of days.

China is a much bigger problem. But you'd still have to be seriously slanty-eyed to think they'd could ever beat us in a fair fight. Their only hope is is Russia takes their side.
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>>136975119
It has happened when they explode at altitude that they have set off US ICBM warnings. What if one like what hit Russia a few years ago goes off above them or US.
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>>136975341
Nah we're really not eager for it, our politicians like grandstanding and pretending to be great commander-in-chief-esq leaders. In a serious conflict with the Ruskies we'd radically underperform expectations without US support.

Such a conflict would, however, be a good opportunity to kill off a large number of at least partially patriotic white males.
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>>136975444

>if iran lifts a finger is will be flattened by israel,

keep dreaming, israel is paper tiger
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>>136974751
how you know they cant really on Russia?

China can count on Iran on Russia as both country's know they are next on the america list.

They stand by just because out of self preservation reasons.

Americans worked there ass of to cut of Iran from Russia and it enden in Ukraine conflict.

America gets cuckt so hard you wont believe it.
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>>136961443
The Chinese state has issued a ultimatum to the world that if the USA strikes first they will support DPRK but if DPRK attacks first they will not support them. It all depends on who attacks first.
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>>136975582

Who needs emu if you can have ostriches
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>>136975059
>tbqh our allies are chinese allies too, so as Belarus, Iran, Syria, Cuba and Venezuela
Venezuelans are literally eating rats they find in the strets, they're so poor.
Iran is surrounded by US forces and munitions.
Syria is in a full on civil war and at a stalemate with goat fuckers because the US already destabilized the entire middle east.
Cuba is right next to the US and would be engaged by mainland forces, and wiped out really quickly.
Belarus is wedged between Russia and NATO and would be the first target.
I don't think Russia would get involved, this is a zero sum game with horrible losing consequences for the Sino-Russian alliance.
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>>136975554
Americas desegregation is more likely then Europs.


KeK
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>Take out chinese with product made in china
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>>136975799
Link
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/china-warns-north-korea-youre-on-your-own-if-you-go-after-the-us/2017/08/11/a01a4396-7e68-11e7-9026-4a0a64977c92_story.html?utm_term=.e2c3329c7f05
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>>136961443
Nothing will happen.
Again, NOTHING will happen
Kim has no leverage and isn't dealing with pussies such as Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama.
This is more about pressuring China on Economic issues.
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>>136975966

https://unvis.it/washingtonpost.com/world/china-warns-north-korea-youre-on-your-own-if-you-go-after-the-us/2017/08/11/a01a4396-7e68-11e7-9026-4a0a64977c92_story.html?utm_term=.e2c3329c7f05
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>>136975413
Nope. EU and Russia had best relations and both nations profit and prosper in friendship.

You think we set Europe on fiere so amerniggers can keep there monopoly you retarded.
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>>136975818

>Cuba is right next to the US and would be engaged by mainland forces, and wiped out really quickly

like it was in bay of american pigs?
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>>136975906
>china manufacturing weapons to be used against china
>yfw china is more capitalist than any nation know to man
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>>136975880
wouldn't count on it. There is a bomb in the east, placed there after the fall of the wall, that just waits on blowing off. After October the EU will no longer be the EU
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>>136975733
Russia isn't stupid.
The most they will do is what you already illustrated, while america is busy in one end of the world, they will take land in a different one.

Russia will not involve themselves in creating the apocalypse, they will just use the opportunity.
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>>136975682
NK is tougher than that. The whole country is an armed fortress. It would take years and probably nukes to flush them all out.

If the big three cook off my money is on Russia and China is a close second. The winner of a nuke war will be whoever can put the largest portion of their population deep underground. The US had a good run of smart civil defence projects well into the 60's and then stopped. The Chinese and Russians didn't.
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>>136976106
You're doing it wrong
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>>136975966
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-china-media-idUSKBN1AR005


nah they stay Neutral so they can zerg rush ameriniggers and push there shit in.

And if America striks first china will aid NK.


get cuckt!
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>>136976070
communists are the best capitalists!
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>>136976061
bay of pigs was like twenty CIA trained cubans what the fuck are you talking about.
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>>136976185
They'd starve pretty quick m8. Take a look at how underdeveloped they all are sometime.
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>>136975880
Europe is a zombie walking (demographics). America still has a chance.
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If these Chinks lift a finger, President Trump will cancel payment on treasury bonds to Chinese and any of their allies.
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>>136976096
you saying it will be the United Staates of Europe?

Because all the bomb in east can count on is the USA and they are busy in Asia
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>>136976288
They literally have years of supplies stashed underground. Why do you think they are all starving to death. I know that regime, Autarky writ bigly.
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>>136976288
This. Once the bombs stop, and the people begin to starve, someone will get paid enough to fish little kim out of a spider whole.
He'll then be paraded through Seoul and hanged for "crimes"
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>>136976296
america chance was Hillary you chose your own nations death. Trump.


ahahha I laugh my ass off.
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>>136976296
Wat. US demographics are waaaay worse. European countries are still >90% European while the US is nearly minority white now.
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ALL YOU FUCKING PANIC FAGGOTS ARE RETARDED. NOTHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN. NOTHING. NADA. ZIP. ZILCH. NULL
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>implying china would attack the united states
>implying china has a chance at winning
You guys are fucking stupid
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>>136976185
it's not.
Urban environments as sparse and empty as NK are NOT hard to sweep.

USA will make quick work of them, and the only thing that would surprise them would be is the buildings fell down on them or were secretly filled with dynamite the whole time.

ether way NORKS LOSE because their country is demolished.
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>>136976360

so nobody will invest in your treasury bonds, and state dept will be growing, so yeah, zimbabwe 2.0 with burgerillion inflation rate
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>>136976023
>Nope. EU and Russia had best relations and both nations profit and prosper in friendship.
Except for the whole EU expansionism and wanting to absorb the Eastern European nations. Turn on your real flag.
>>136976061
>like it was in bay of american pigs?
The ignorance of this is astounding. That wasn't even a military operation, it was a CIA one.
The budgets, oversight, and motives are complete different.
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>>136976511
Big talk, yet you shit your self when china flexes its mussels. You could not get Syria under control, you cant get Afghanistan under control.

US of cucks!

Cammon do something crazy!
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>>136976788
What does any of what you just posted have anything to with what I posted?
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>>136976510
>what are logistics
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>>136976282
And it was also meant to be a stealth operation, not an invasion with the US military
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>>136973801
>Russia, NK

Didn't they release a statement saying that a nuclear NK is "unacceptable"?
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>>136961443
After China sinks all regional aircraft carriers and destroy all the airfields in the west pasific the war pause until the US regains force projection and the same thing will happen over and over again.
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>>136976957

Yes, you are right, norks should send all their nukes to the USA
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>>136976862
It's literally a shill. They've been saying anti-american shit all thread.
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>>136976752
>Except for the whole EU expansionism and wanting to absorb the Eastern European nations. Turn on your real flag.
And thast bad because why? East Europeans got asked if they want to join and the people voted on it with yes.

We know you want to make V4 real but lucky EU you get fuckt in Asia. SO where do you loose the hardest? East Europe or in Asia.

Who cucks you the hardest?

China?
EU?
Russia?

All together?
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>>136976615
Why do you think your Fuhrer in Berlin is so hot on importing half the middle east as quickly as possible? Because the state level Ponzi is collapsing, pensions first. The US is shipping illegals back by the boatload and reversing the Ponzi with wage inflation. White middle class wage inflation, straight out of Henry Fords playbook. Pure Trumpism.
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>>136961443
Why would there even be a ground war in NK? Just MOAB the niggers. No need for foot soldiers.
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Isn't the US debt in large part owned by Chinese?
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>>136977166
Even if you ship every illegal back home you still have tons of niggers and spics left.
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>>136976957
Yeh about the same time they sent some more traincarts with SAMs to NK.
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>>136976862
you r not the smartest american are you?

You cant get nations with no military at all under control and with no allies, you think you get NK.

AHAHAHAHHAHA
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>>136976682
They are still in Afghanistan 10 years later. They didn't even have relevant AA or a tenth of the shit or cohesion NK has.
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>>136976692
How to go back to a gold standard in five minutes flat.
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>>136977384

>with gorillion debts

more like how to go back into stone age
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>>136961443
these should help

North Korea vs USA (2017)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WyrYBrOC1o

China vs South Korea (2017)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vINJQlD42A
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>>136977267
And you will still have an older rapidly aging population with a youth component completely and thoroughly Marxist in thought and deed. Useless.
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>>136977318
I think youre mistaking America with Israel.
The jews are flooding Europe with immigrants. Im not your enemy.
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>>136977249

Don't have to pay debts if you can get the war started and force government change. The main thing people aren't considering though is that there is no China without America (economically). China's current state of being would be gone overnight. The US is also very dependent upon China but to a lesser extent. Either way, neither side is ready to dismantle this symbiotic relationship.
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>>136977321
you're a fucking retard fair play
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>>136976106
i hope guam gets nuked
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>>136977501
The minute anybody substantial defaults on their debt the world is already on a defacto gold standard whether its proclaimed or not. That's what I am trying to say.
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>>136977624
And even so 50% of newborns aren't non white.
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>>136977661
What have the Israelis to do with it now?

Zionist are not Israel. Your gratest Allie, how about you ask them to attack NK?!
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>>136974631
that's not even how words work.
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>>136977705
Sure, and your are low IQ island monkey with shit teeth and worse breath. KYS.
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>>136962444
Hong Kong will most likely ask Britain to govern it again, Macau will probably ask Portugal to do the same, which will give both of the countries amazing economic boosts, which means brexit will be more successful and Portugal might leave the EU too.
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Its not going to happen
It never does
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The USA and China will never directly go to war with each other because our economies are dependent on one another. China needs to trade with the USA to support their growing middle class. The USA needs to trade with China for cheap shit
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>>136978035
i doubt you even know what a conventional war is
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>>136978035
also, you're*
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>>136976471
not when the people have nothing to eat, drown in debt and Keynesian bastards try to save some banks with the debt of our great great great great grand children. It will mean a short civil war with some people be hung in the street, and the left will do it, while the right takes the states. We had it, it is enough
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>>136966557
The Vietnamese hate China you fucking retard, they aren't going to join in a union with them. Just a few years ago when there was the big deal over the south China sea, the Vietnamese were itching to join in as an excuse to kill some chinks.
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>>136978201
.If you think any nuclear armed power is going to willingly lose a war without setting off nukes you are deluded. That is what this whole mess in NK is about.
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>>136977845
Israel is everyone's enemy schlomo. The Jews know they arent to return to the holy Land until the Messiah leads them there. Israel is blasphemous in it's existence pre messanic era
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>>136969252
There was a report that the Pentago lost $4 trillion the day before 9/11. I'll give you 1 guess which section of the Pentagon got hit by the "plane" that left no debris. For $4 trillion we're talking Van Braun ayy lmao false flag type tech.
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>>136977267
Give them a job and spending power, and they'll stop giving a shit about marxism fast.

Money talks, especially to people who go with the flow.
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Don't include us in your war jerkoff fantasies, thanks.
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DESU this senerio is pretty simple Chana has way too much to lose if the get involved and they will lose for sure.
> ITT people who haven't come to grips with the power the US really wields and im not saying this because of "muh merica pride" .

Also we can and should just start flooding asia with opium like the good ol days.
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>>136979167
>Give them a job and spending power
Fuck that. They can get that themselves. Just stop forking over the welfare so they are forced to do it.
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>>136976061
They were exiled Cubans backed by the CIA, spics killing their own. Fully trained and equipped American troops would've slaughtered them
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>>136979122
What do you think that little space shuttle the Navy has up in space is building? I reckon the US has fully functioning Rod from God circumnavigating the globe in orbit. Push the button and its a five minute trip to destination. That's a nuke you cannot defend against and you have know way of knowing where it came from.
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>>136976896
>Supposed to be stealthy
>CIA trained wetbacks
It was doomed to fail from the start
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>>136961443
>Thinking WW3 will be a conventional war

You will die along all the other subhumans who are too stupid to see the world around them. The Neanderthal will hide underground and thrive.
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>>136980016
I can spot a guy who reads Cleve Blakemore from a mile away. Spot on.
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china will pussy out even if America acts first
they know if they intervene they will get fucked both ways by uncle sam and us pajeets
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>>136975985
Dude, I don't think you understand just how retarded world leaders are right now. We're escalating so fast that we need a war so we don't look like pussies, you can thank King Cheeto and Fat Kimmy for that
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>>136980486
You wouldn't last five minutes toe to toe with the Chinks. And whatever they didn't finish off the Paki's would fuck you sideways six minutes later. Most useless human beings on earth from top to bottom. I'd consider sub Saharan Africans as more human than you back alley shitsters.
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>>136980486
will you guys take advantage of China if they make the mistake of intervening?
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>>136961443
Don't worry anons, I know how to take or a major Chinese town.

You have to beseige Shanghai.


You need to get about 32 guys. Arms them with M416s, Model 11 DMRs, have the engineers run the AS Val and have the supports run the RPK-12. Have the Supports and Medics assault the elevator for high ground and let the DMRs camp there whild the rest take A B and C.
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>>136981015
Id certainly hope so
couldn't get any better than this
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>>136980234
The Americans won't even see what happens. They think watching action movies and sitting on 80s technology thinking they're still the number #1 power means they're still in the game.

China and Russia will unveil technology their sapiens mind weren't even capable of imagining and teach you why having 700 million fit, hard working and highly competitive males at your disposition makes a world of difference against a fat, lazy, decadent nation.

Less than 5% of the US male population fits those criteria
>White
>Not overweight
>Hard working
>Competitive
>Goal driven

You can't miss a single one. If as a nation you need people to develop superweapons for you you need a large pool of minds to draw from. You also need an efficient, patriotic chain of command that can grant immense amount of resources in complete secrecy. The US doesn't have that. They had 8 years of a president who hate his own country. This doesn't happen in Russia or China. It just doesn't.

The average chinaman can work 16 hours straight without wincing. The average. The only thing that was slowing them down was the logistical constraints of educating most of their population. That was in the 80s. Now it's 2017. It's judgment's day.
>>
bump to see if anyone replies
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qc8jJ0TjSY

The good old days.
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>>136961443
Google World Order when?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVlhMGQgDkY
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>>136961443
China has hypersonic ballistic missiles which can travel upto mach 6 and can be loaded with nuclear warheads.
Can US defend against those? If not then it's will an easy win for China. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=china+hypersonic+missile
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Guam is near the Marianas Trench
The deepest part of the ocean
With million year old active volcanos
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>>136986100
All the better!
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What a load of shit. China is fed up with North korea just like everybody else, not to mention that north korea is not really a "puppet" neither are they really "allies." North korea is more like some very poorly trained dog that bites at everything that gets near to it. China won't give a fuck if south korea annexes north korea, creating a democratic repuplic as a "unified" korea. I think they'd even prefer that since in that case they would actually trade more and be much more open in anything regarding diplomacy. Not to mention that they drop this soviet era communism already. Oh and don't get me started on russia, the only reason why russia was helping NK is because it was the communist soviet union, nothing else. They have literally no reason to enter this war.
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How likely is the chance that Tokyo is getting nuked? I'm going to move there for a job soon
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>>136987155
Japan will be destroyed by earthquakes. Soon.
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>DAILY REMINDER
DAILY REMINDER
>DAILY REMINDER
DAILY REMINDER

In the year of 2000 there were eight countries without a Rothschild owned or controlled Central Bank:

Afghanistan
Iraq
Sudan
Libya
Cuba
North Korea
Iran
Syria

It is not a coincidence that these country, which are listed above were and are still being under attack by the western media, since one of the main reasons these countries have been under attack in the first place is because they do not have a Rothschild owned Central Bank yet.

The only countries left in 2003 without a Central Bank owned or controlled by the Rothschild Family were:

Sudan
Libya
Cuba
North Korea
Iran
Syria

The only countries left in 2017 without a Central Bank owned or controlled by the Rothschild Family are:

Cuba
North Korea
Iran
Syria

After the instigated protests and riots in the Arab countries the Rothschild finally paved their way into establishing Central Banks, and getting rid of many leaders, which put them into more power.

YES GOYIM GO DIE FOR US SO WE CAN IMPLEMENT OUR BANKS,YES KILL THE RED ! DOWN WITH THE COMMIES ! KIM JONG UN IS A THREAT TO THE WORLD !
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>>136985536
China has hypersonic drones who can be loaded with nuclear warheads.
There is literally no way to block that. The only thing keeping the US alive is their old salted bombs.
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>>136978693

Based russian poster!
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>>136961443
Neither can win without destroying the world economy and keeping the war contained to only those nations.
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>>136961443
China will be forced to surrender after a successful air campaign on their military installations. There will be no need for a full scale land invasion. They would rather survive that fight to the death. They have too much to lose.
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>>136973919
>opinion
>/thread
>same post
>Thats not /threading myself faggot.
kys
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>>136988142
Lasers and railguns, Laser's might work
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>>136961443
>>>136968041
>As long as the three bigs, UK, France and Russia don't intervene then every other country in the world could pile on and it wouldn't be much more effective than the USA fighting alone.

>implying Uk and France is still relevant
>>
China is 2nd worst in human rights violations
China is 2nd-ish worst in pollution
Ect.

China is trying to keep itself safe for as long as possible. The Chinese communists are opportunistic which is why they have propped up the Norks since 1991. If war goes down, it will spill over into Manchuria and cause massive chaos, civil war, and collapse of CCP. They're buying time but the clock will run out eventually.

>Who do you think gave NK their weaponized uranium?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/china-north-korea-nuclear-bomb-company-investigation-a7320266.html
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>>136993633
Archived it for you
https://unvis.it/independent.co.uk/news/business/news/china-north-korea-nuclear-bomb-company-investigation-a7320266.html
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I wish we had a true neocon as president, shit would go faster. Who in your opinion would make the best neocon for president in this timeline? We need the likes of Donald Rumsfeld, Richard Perle, Dick Cheney and the rest of the bushies should come back if they can to help.

IMO we shouldn't even be in this situation but these are people that should have been dealt before. Fuck NK and the rest of the zipperheads.
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