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What the fuck can we do about the male virgin epidemic?

How do you expect men to win wars when they can't even hustle themselves a piece of pussy, which every animal is capable of. Or should be.

What can we do about the failure specimen?
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bump
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It’s called natural selection, you failure.
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Make women women again.

No women in the workplace.
Public shaming for promiscuity.
Proper parenting of daughters.
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it's called pay a whore and end of problem
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>>136955135
How will calling the number help me? Will they send an emergency pussy package to my door?
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>>136955680
How much does your wife and daughter charge for anal?
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>>136955638
that's not the solution. the solution 'no genders at all': no female privileges
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>>136955708
Movie advertisement. Your pain is hilarious to normies.
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>>136955822
they don't exist, so 0
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There is no male virgin epidemic.

95-97% of males have had sex by age 21. The rest are outliers, usually due to severe physical or mental disability or accidental disfigurement.
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>>136955949
I have not any of those things and yet im still a virgin at 22.

I call bullshit on your claim
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>>136955939
Ok then. How's about your ma? Don't dare say anything over a tenner or I'll know your trying to con me.
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>having casual relationships
>wanting a virgin wife
show some respect you fucking kids
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>>136955949
I lost my virginity to a hooker at 20.
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>>136956275
This
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>>136956065
How typical are you, though? If people look at you, do they see a normie?
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>>136956290
That's a bit late, but still within the normal range.
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>>136955135
Caribbean cruise scam when i called the number.. still a virgin!
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>>136955135
>which every animal is capable of
wrong
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>>136955135
We could always send them to Sweden, put them in a dress, and the local imported sandniggers will help cure them.
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>>136955135
I'm a 22 year old virgin. Decent looking, former D1 athlete, and I lift pretty regularly still.
>I'm a manlet
>Gearing up to head to the Seminary after graduation.
>Fight me you colossal fagits.
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>>136955135

Most animals just rape.
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>>136956141
she's dead so 0 too, i think
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>>136955949
are you sure??

>Tokyo (CNN) Japanese millennials just aren't having sex. That's according to a government survey published last week, claiming that 42% of men and 44.2% of women -- almost half of Japan's millennial singles aged between 18 to 34 -- are virgins.Sep 20, 2016
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>>136955135
>How do you expect men to win wars when they can't even hustle themselves a piece of pussy

You'd be surprised how many wars are fought purely out of the boredom of ten thousand frustrated young men.
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>>136955135
Degenerate thread. How the Hell do you expect to marry a woman whose a virgin if you're not willing to wait for her. How the Hell do you preach traditional values if you can't follow all of them. How the Hell do you save Christianity without following God's commands. This is a shill thread SAGE.
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>having sex before marriage

You people disgust me. I've had multiple offers before, but I explained I was only interested in having sex AFTER I had a well established relationship. Turns out one of them got a nasty STD 3 weeks later.
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>>136956379
Yeah, im what you would call in Dutch een grijze muis.

Slightly introvert, but that is mostly gone now. Im already 4 years into uni and have been with a Dutch variant of a fraternity for four years.

I have made many friends in high school and frat and uni. Never got intimate though
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>>136955852
It indeed is a solution.
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Drop 200 bones on a solid escort and get all the skullfucking out of your system.
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>>136956799
kek virgin
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>>136956629
Firstly, those "figures" are likely either exaggerated or made up.

Secondly, Japan is nothing like Europe or North America, where the 95% by 21 figure comes from.

Might be nice to think it's a big epidemic and you're not alone, but the truth is, if you don't count the severely handicapped or the extremely mentally ill, you basically are alone after 21.
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>>136956898
Are you the Minerva guy from that one thread ages ago?
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>>136955135
Not everyone is a degenerate looking to be defiled
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>>136956967
And? Better than some 12 year old hiding under that meme flag.
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>>136956969
there are lots of completely unattractive dudes and theres no culture pushing monogamy anymore to save them
not sure why you think im trying to defend myself here i am not a virgin
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>>136957023
No i'm not m8
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>>136957219
There was a guy claiming to be in Minerva a month or two ago I think. Said he had the same problem as you.

Apparently there's a real epidemic of virgins... in Dutch fraternities.
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>>136956544
I'm a 22 year old virgin as well

>seminary
Are you a Catholicbro? I want to get married and have a ton of kids but if I don't find a marriagable girl I might just join a monastery
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>epidemic

At age 20 they're like 6% of the population, and that drops to 1-2% by age 30.

There is no "epidemic", this place is just an echo chamber of outliers.
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It's like trying to get an entry level professional job when you haven't had a professional job before. Most women nowadays aren't looking for a good husband early on but a good fuck and maybe a nice dinner on his money. Men with traits good for family making often don't have enough excitement to them for some casual fling and thus women ignore them in favor of those men who don't care about women at all aside from being a hole to fuck. 80% of the women and the top 20% of the men in the west are responsible for the rise in single motherhood, male virginity and the collapse of the societal contract known as marriage. We need to shame sluts and manwhores who make women sluts.
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You can't be a good man and not be a 20+ year old virgin today. Marriage needs to be done at a young age again
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>>136955135
Not that long ago you were expected to stay a virgin until marriage.

Now it's seen as degeneracy.
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>>136955429
"Beta" males are the most numerous and they are the one that build and maintain society. Good luck when they all check out. MGTOW
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>>136956898

Have you had your T-levels checked?
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>>136957480
Not gonna lie, im not alpha. (Obviously)
I don't have the courage to make the first move. Im probably not that noticable for girls in order for them to make the first move. So I will be stuck in this position
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>>136957208

This is the actual answer.
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>>136957688
This. SAD
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>>136957981
No, is that a thing?
I have a fairly deep voice and my beats is decent. I don't think my T levels are low
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Anyone 21 or older that is still a virgin is classed as a weirdo. Obviously it's wayyy easier for females to get laid but cmon guys most people lose their virginity before 18.
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All of you faggots should get your shit together. I wasn't a normie. I was excluded from most social groups. Manned up when I was 22 (3 years ago) got into a fwb relationship and now i'm on my fifth girl. But I had to stop giving so much of a fuck about it. I stopped seeking approval never acted like a cuck and never chased bitches. And I had to man up in general. I have a job, a side hustle, I'm studying, I rent a place , I have enough money to buy my own house because I became responsible with money (and real estate values have collapsed here) and now I'm 25 and I'm trying to see how to use my money to buy a place and still be able to get into business. That's how you get girls. By working on your own fucking life. It might sound hard to some of you but it's a step by step thing and it's fucking doable. There is really no excuse for somebody to be such a fucking faggot.
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>>136957688
After the West rejected Christianity there was that brief Kantian period where people tried to keep a semblance of morality. Didn't last long though, it was inevitable that the end result would be a totally Antichristian civilization
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>>136955135
if a man can't get laid then he shouldn't, sorry. Keep your trash manlet genes.
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>>136956544
>former D1 athlete
>I'm a manlet

so what was this sport, cheerleading?
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>>136958269
It's sad that you think getting laid is everything when virginity rates are dropping and single motherhood is rising. The emphasis on losing virginity is killing societal structures.
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I lost my virginity at 21. Does that make me a loser /pol/

She was a qt if that helps
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>>136958429
>if a man can't get laid then he shouldn't, sorry. Keep your trash manlet genes

This. I accepted that when I was 21.
Still though sometimes you can feel a bit down when you realize it had to be you.

Just wished I was more confident and 6 feet 5 instead of 6 feet 2 and low confidence
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>>136958025
Statistically speaking, if you're lucky and you live a healthy life (don't smoke, don't do drugs, drink with moderation, eat fruits and vegetables), you have another 60 years to live. 20 of those years will be in relatively poor health, or at least you won't be fit or young enough to hang around young women without it being creepy. So you have about 40 years left to "truly live", before you've definitively pissed your life away. What happens after you've passed 40, or 50, or 60? You'll wither away in old age and die a lonely man, and within a few years of your death no one will ever mention your name or give a passing thought to your existence ever again. Then you'll be truly dead, forever and ever.

So when you want to talk to a girl and you get the instinct to pussy out, remember that the alternative is to piss away the few good years you have in this existence, die a lonely man, and be forgotten soon after your death. What kind of rejection could be bad enough to outweigh the fate of dying alone and facing a self-chosen damnatio memoriae?
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>>136955135
Throughout history only about half of men actually reproduced. Further back, before civilization, it was only about 1/10 of men that reproduced.
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>>136958706
What is your bench/deadlift/squat 1rm? How fast can you run a 5k? Are you really good at a romantic hobby (painting music etc.)? Do you have a good skin care regimen and a nice haircut? Do you dress well? How much do you make a year?

unless you are malformed you can improve all of those things and become a man that any woman would want to snu snu
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>>136958812
That was because male mortality was higher. Now that men aren't dying as often from war, disease and work related issues you have a class of men who aren't being chosen as a husband by women, leading to a good chunk of men and women now never marrying. It gets worse for women over time than men as women have a strong biological clock and jealousy complex. Many single men once they hit 35 resign themselves to being childless, but women once their hit 30 and realize they pissed their good years away fucking men who didn't really care about them they panic. It's causing massive psychological stress on a good chunk of the population of women and it's due to them ignoring men who could have been their husbands. It's getting worse now that many of the husband material males who aren't even ugly stopped caring even earlier and withhold themselves from the dating scene altogether.
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>>136955135
What's wrong with waiting for marriage?
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tblop,com
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>>136955135
Fuck off with your degeneracy
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The 80% of women who are breeding are passing around the 40% of men who are worth breeding with. Women WANT sloppy chad seconds whereas men want someone who is inexperienced.
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>>136955638
>problems in my life are other people's fault
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>>136955135
Nothing, women are back to their natural sexuality which means they only go for top men, the rest dies childless. Seriously, 60% of men that existed didn't reproduce. The age of monogamy is over, Chads are the overlords now.
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>>136958706
You can always keep trying, I didn't get laid until I was 21 but now I get a little every day of my life.
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Complaining will never get you laid.
t. man who got laid
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>>136955135
Lost it at 24. Antidepressants unironically saved me. I fucked a 1/10 girl until I found a 21yo virgin 6/10 girl who left me after a year because I wasn't like a disney movie prince. Put them on antidepressants and force them to go out basically.
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>>136959106
Honestly anon, you have no problem with the fact that your woman wouldn't love you if your biceps were smaller or you had a zero less on your bank account? How can you be with a woman knowing that you're basically paying for a hooker? How can you respect these whores that were totally unwilling to trust in you and invest in you before you turned into this big hot shot man?
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>>136960240
So you lost your virginity but don't have a relationship? What's the point then?
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>>136955135
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>>136959396
This desu.
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>>136960240
1/10
WHAT
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>>136959476
Exactly. Your problems always seem big in the here and now, but you can always look back at your past problems and say "why the fuck did I make such a big deal out of that?"

People are their own worst enemies, but they can usually defeat themselves if they make an effort of it.
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>>136956275
>he fell for the waiting meme
top kek
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>>136960240
Antidepressants make you apathetic and asexual.

This is the worst advice. Get them conscripted in a battalion far away from home and let them leave base. Then give it a month of doing pushups with chads and they'll be fucking.
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>>136955429
>natural selection retard
No suprise you're a jew state
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>>136960449
I fucked an ugly girl from tinder just to get experience and confidence. Fucked her once or twice every week for a month. Stopped talking to her when I concluded with my ex gf. That relationship ended after a year. Even losing your virginity can show you it's not that hard and give you confidence.
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>>136955135
STILL A CHRISTIAN?
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Be black.. have white women throw themselves at you
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>>136955135
STILL A MUSLIM?
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The reason why alot of neets are still virgins is because they don't leave their basements. I've seen ugly monster guy brainlets being knee deep in gash 24/7, if they can do it, there is no reason you can't either. Fucking stop being depressed and get out of the house, talk to an actual girl. You will soon find out bitches ain't shit and stop being afraid of them, ofcourse when you keep zoning yourself out and just drewling at a distance ie putting them on a pedestal you will get nothing.

bye
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>>136955135
STILL A CHILD?
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>>136960565
Her face was fine but she was obese. She'd be a 3.5 on that chart which ain't that accurate.
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>>136955135
>putting pussy on a pedestal
C U C K E D A F
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>>136955135
STILL SINGLE?
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>>136955135
We don't have actual wars anymore. Western men haven't been culled like they used to be every 50 years or so. Also medical care staves off disease. We have too many men. People just need to realize that all this singleness and virginity is just nature sorting itself out.
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>>136955135
STILL IN SCHOOL?
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>>136959476

>tumblr faggotry

Gtfo spic
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>>136960794
>This is the worst advice. Get them conscripted in a battalion far away from home and let them leave base. Then give it a month of doing pushups with chads and they'll be fucking.
How out of touch with reality do you have to be to say something like that? You have no idea how much of the "slayers" are complete cowards, and if everything conscription can fuck them up for live considering how weak they are in the first place
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why would i try to "hustle a piece of pussy"
because some guy from finland told me too

when jesus said FLEE FORNICATION and pluck out your eye if it causes you to lust

and etc etc

explain that one to the creator of the world while you thought it was a mans duty to "hustle after pussy"
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>>136960884
You're not fooling anyone, Canada.
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>>136960997
Don't you dare insult "the scale".
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>>136960240
Your shitty jewpills don't do anything, you weren't truly depressed, normalcuck.
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>>136960794
They made my anxiety disappear and the sexual sides were actually helpful for a first time because it delayed ejaculation. I stopped using them 3 weeks later though because it indeed made things hard even more with an ugly bitch.
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>>136958706
>Just wished I was more confident and 6 feet 5 instead of 6 feet 2 and low confidence
Top kek
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>>136955135
STILL A REPUBLICAN?
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>>136955135
STILL A PRUDE?
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>>136955135
STILL RACIST?
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>>136961277
That's not a joke. When I'm in England, especially the north of England, I'm usually the tallest man in the room. But when I'm at home here in the Netherlands, I'm usually the shortest guy in the room.

And it matters when you're trying to get a woman. She won't see data, she'll see a lineup of guys and pick the tallest she thinks she can get.
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>>136955135
STILL A BIGOT?
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>>136955429
Humans have relatively, very low genetic diversity thanks to a near-extinction event in our history. In theory, it's better for us if more people reproduce and worse for us if less people do. Note, that's not just more kids, that's more parents.
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>>136961150
You know, I used to kinda let's say take comfort in thinking that people will be punished for the shit they do. But they won't. they'll just say they're sorry and be forgiven or if they're Catholics they'll just go to confession. Also, mastrubation and sex before marriage are equally sinful under Christian ethics. So a guy who fucks 100 gilrs and a guy who mastrubates 100 times are in the same exact pot.
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>>136955135
STILL HOMOPHOBIC?
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>>136955135
STILL NORMAL?
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>>136956898
>>136955949
You are an outlier
You know its true
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>>136957877
Um sorry sweetie. Betas don't actually exist.
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>>136958269
Here's the actual numbers, for Americans.
>Virgins make up 12.3 percent of females and 14.3 percent of males aged 20 to 24.

It's 14 percent, you niggers. It's not some extreme outlier. The idea that these people are weirdo freaks whose only option is suicide is a Jewish narrative to demoralize those who are most disconnected from what we know is an unhealthy society. Not saying they don't have problems, but let's not blow it out of proportion.
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>>136955135
War used to be the only path for Beta males to get pussy. If you lose you die or are enslaved, but if you can't get laid you might as well kill yourself anyways, and if you win you get to rape the enemy's women. It's a win-win.
Offer up Nork waifus to every kissless Hughes's virgin and we'll be storming their beaches in a week.
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>>136961563
That video was the most baseless and misleading drivel I've ever seen.
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>>136961593
No fucking way it's 14%. No fucking way.
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>>136961226
I'd have posted the same shit a year ago when i shitposted on /r9k/. And yeah I'm a failed normie. Realizing you wasted your youth and probably your future makes you depressed when you're a fucking loser and they temporarily helped fixing some stuff. Dropped them as soon as i could.
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>>136955949
>tfw 24
What mental disorder do I have
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>>136961593
This guy gets it.
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>>136961445
ya i dont know man i try to quit fapping permanently because i dont want to be associated with sex normies

true christians wont get punished
catholics will they aint christian

i kinda wrestle with the idea because i know theres people fornicating and it hurts me
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>>136961593
It isn't unhealthy, if you ask people participating in it they would say they feel very much healthy, unlike people who don't participate in it. The current state of affairs is pretty much natural human behavior devoid of all social and religious pressures. This is what humans are, monkeys chasing tail, that's literally it.
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>>136958706
Bro I'm a 5ft8 manlet and I have a mad qt dutch gf
All the guys here are way taller but do I give a fuck?

No way. Confidence is key, I lost my virginity at 17 so I guess that helped but seriously just talk to girls and give it a whirl

>t. Expat kiwi Cucking one euro country at a time
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>>136955135
Stop being retarded faggots.
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>>136959757
>problems in my environment are my own fault
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>>136961724
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/03/on-late-in-life-virginity-loss/284412/

If you have a better source I'm open to hearing it. I'm not surprised it's 14 percent. Lots of guys don't know how to get laid. The Jews shaming them can repeat weirdo freak creepy loser and other buzzwords all they want. The real numbers speak for themselves.
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>>136959734
Wanting inexperienced????
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>>136961943
>true christians wont get punished
So go and engage in ''degeneracy'' then, you'd be fool not to, I mean there are no negative consequences.
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>>136955852
Females don't need privileges they need firm but fair conditioning from a positive male influence throughout life. They get less rights but have more privileges as a result because their wombs are such an important resource for civilization.
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>>136955135
Just let nature take its course. We don't need white men under 6'2 who aren't fit breeding anyway. Don't even get me started on the """white""" men with brown hair and/or eyes.
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welcome to another jew thread.
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>>136961724
I'm actually surprised there's 12.3% of females still a virgin in their early twenties, that's some extreme self control right there, good for you! It's truly the best and worst time to be alive right now, the internet is what's fucking everyone's life up here.
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>>136962112
thats what im saying i know god forgives certain people but it hurts my brain

im trying to figure it out

basically for me, i want to never lust after a women ever again simply for the fact of not being like these other people

because i really dislike people who have sex

so i feel like i will feel better about myself in heaven if i remember that i atleast attempted to be pure at the end of my life

just for the sake of doing the right thing
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>>136961320
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>>136961382
>>136961417
>>136961454
I bet it's coming next. Kek.
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>>136962362
It's reasonable to expect that roughly that percentage of women are also ugly.
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>>136955135
Publicly shame women for not letting men have sex with them. Back in the day it used to be considered an affront to God if a girl wasn't pregnant by 20. We need to go back to that way of thinking.
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>>136955949
>95-97% of males have had sex by age 21

bullshit, but sure if you ask a high school class all kids will say they had sex at 13
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>>136962087
You still kinda sound like you have a virgin mindset. Because somewhat experienced men will tell you that getting laid regularly hardly makes them happy. Men that I know that are over 25 are mainly frustrated by their inability to find a stable relationship or some ex girlfriend mentally fucked them over and they can't get over them. Banging some 2/10 will do absolutely nothing for you, I mean sure at least you got laid, but deep down you know you settled for scraps and that's all you're good for.
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>>136955852
>'no genders at all'

Brain dead fucks like you should kill yourself.
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>>136955949
82 year old virgin here. You're a fucking liar.
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>>136955135

>mfw I somehow managed to get into a vagina in my lifetime and dont have to die a virgin
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>>136962506
>It's reasonable to expect that roughly that percentage of women are also ugly.

A guy desperate enough will fuck anything, the same standards don't apply to male and female anyways. It's easier to be a slut than a stud. That's why roasties deserve to be looked down upon
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>>136962695
Fair points. Don't see how it relates to what I said.
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>>136957877
Alpha males are the ones with talent, ambition, confidence, bravery and drive. They're the ones who built civilization.

Beta males are ultimately useless.
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The problem is the women's these days. They're basically intolerable. Their entire life revolves around social media and getting attention non-stop from strange men they've never met on the internet. Their options are virtually unlimited, even if they're a 3/10 and they will never be satisfied.

I'm alpha, tall, master race, 7/10 and intelligent. I haven't dated anyone in 2 years.
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I lost my virginity at the age of 28. There is still hope, anons.
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like why would god let his children fornicate

its the worst thing ever

im not really concerned about heathen fornicating since i know whats about to happen to them on september 23

0_________0
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I wonder how honest these polls are. I would assume a lot of men wouldn't admit to it because of how shameful it is to be a virgin in the west. I sure as hell wouldn't admit it. Not publicly anyway.

When I was younger I was dating a girl and early on before we ever fucked one of my then "friends" let it slip to her that I was a virgin at the time and she completely changed, made fun of me and shamed me for it, and we stopped hanging out. Obviously that girl was trash and not worth it anyway but shit is painful as fuck when you get exposed like that.
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>>136960295
That's how women are. A fit body, a good career... you need some "in" with women. Once you get it, the romance can be real, but why would she even give you a chance if you are obviously weak?
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6´2 wizard feels bad sometimes
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>>136955135
>he isn't a virgin by choice
Kek have fun with those roasties & enjoy not being a wizard.
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>>136963070
>by choice

Whatever floats your boat
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>>136955135
Epidemic? Dude, throughout most of human history, only 1 out of 5 men got to mate. It's only a relatively recent development that's increased the ratio.

That said, if you're not a feminized manlet, it's never been a better time to get laid. Keep yourself in good shape, workout, try and eat healthy, shower, don't dress like a slob, act confident (but not like a douche) and you'll get laid. If you're reasonably good looking on top of that, you'll actually be able to punch way above your weight class into the genuinely hot segment of the pussy market.

The hard part is finding a woman from all the girls. Most girls today really are just vacuous holes in which to place your penis. Only a small number are actual people who are worth procreating with.
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>>136955135
First of all we should stop frowning upon virgins, both male but especially female.
It is a good thing if someone didn't fuck 20 people before marrying.
Once we did that and put our women on the leash far more men would be able to land a wife, just like most men did 60 years ago.
If women have no where to go with their sexuality but to marry, only a very small percentage of extremely ugly women will choose to stay unmarried and instead they'll marry an appropriately low status male.
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>>136963002
Are you married ? Do you feel regrets not doing it sooner ?
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>>136956648
>That Jew in the back
>Actually stops rubbing his hands to look.
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>>136963232
no thats a myth

evolution never happened and 1 man 1 women marriage has been around for a long time

in israel they used to save the damsels of the opposing army and give them as wives to the NEETS of society who couldnt get a wife

so its actually probably a higher ratio than what goes on today
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>>136961212
>literal movie star
>eh 7/10 best I can do
Sick memepost, bro.
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>>136963036
>That's how women are. A fit body, a good career... you need some "in" with women. Once you get it, the romance can be real, but why would she even give you a chance if you are obviously weak?

I think you're larping, or you've just never experienced love in its true form. So sad, many such cases
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>>136955949
25 virgin

But I know the only reason why is women don't want to date someone until their well off financially

And I don't want to risk having kids before I own a house
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>>136963186
>he dosent reject thots on the spot
Pitty thy primate urges
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>>136955135
women are to blame, not men.
when a single gender has a monopoly on the whole dating world and strangle's male sexuality with their whore bodies, what do you expect?
80% of women go for only 20% of men

this is especially true if you've ever been to a dating site. the women are nothing but filthy degenerate whores.
even the 3/10 fat asses will only go out with supermodel 9/10 men with six pack abs, a nice house and car, well-endowed penis, excellent job, etc.

tl;dr women are whores.
if you want to fix this problem, exterminate feminism.

also
>what a sad time it is when virginity is used as an insult
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>>136963232
That's not true, at worst it was 40% who got to mate.
In strictly controlled sexual markets like Christian societies 60 years ago or Muslim societies today (at least those who do not allow polygamy) it's actually 80% of men who get to mate.
It's much better if we went back to that model of regulating sexuality because then more men would actually have a reason to work and fight for something.
Today 60% of men have nothing to hope for and just play video games or do drugs to make life pass by faster.
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>>136963232
Fuck that, what's her name?
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>>136962857
Sorry, you wrote that guys don't know how to get laid, which implies that getting laid regularly outside of relationships is of some extreme importance in life

>>136963036
Nah dude, if you you lose your job or status you're fucked, romance goes out the window. Or even if you don't, women get bored and suck some guy at work because she's ''unhappy''. I'm just saying, why are women unable to stick to a guy that's for example 21, in college, fairly broke but bright and might go places. Instead, they go for only for the finished product.
I absolutely loathe the idea of me getting 2 MAs after growing up in poverty, paying my parents' debts off, buying a car and my place and then some woman comes in like she deserves it just because she will spread her legs for me. I simply can't accept the way the world works, I will probably kill myself because if you're a man you're nothing but a walking wallet to anyone, no one cares about you, what kind of person you are, your virtues, nothing.
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>>136955949
Ever been on r9k?
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also if you were a slave the slaveowner would give you a wife of one of his daughters

and the father would basically guarantee theres a 1 man 1 women marriage when there was arranged marriages

.........

>>136963622
OVER 80% OF MEN REPRODUCE TODAY

its a myth created by roasties to say that only 40% of men reproduce naturally

cuck faggot
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>>136955135
Most of these virgins were raised to be nice guys. Guys who suffer through rejection time and again. And instead of trying to better themselves, develop a blame complex which allows them to excuse their,flaws and outwardly blaming what they perceive to be the source of the problem, in cases such as the nice guy,they blame stacies, normies, society, even chads.
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>>136963585
Same with me, I actually made lots of money, am good looking and had many women in my life but today in my thirties I'm afraid to actually do it because women are just whores and will steal everything, ruin the lives of the children I might have with her and mine too.
Sucks to live in Sodom & Gomorrah bro. I'm sure today it would have been much better if I just hadn't been a fucking child with my first girlfriend (when I was 18) and just married her.
I was her first boyfriend too, it would likely have worked out better than any whore that I can pick up these day in my thirties. (I can't really go fishing for 18 year olds now, 25 is the youngest that would probably be acceptable)
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>>136963371
I'm 31 now, and I'm not married, and I'm not sure if I want to desu. I feel regrets not doing it sooner because I had many chances, but for some reason, especially during my teenage years and early 20s my standards were too high despite being a goofy looking tall skellington.

The only reason I'm not a wizard is probably because I'm a drunk and on the rare occassion I socialise alcohol at least makes me talkative. If you wanna know, I don't even quite remember how it went, except that I got rejected by some chick I liked and ended up dancing and making out with some fat chick instead, followed by fucking her in a bathroom with no condom. The blowjob was great, but I never really talked to her again or anything after that.

After her I've fucked 2 other different girls (one that looked kind of like that anzu chick everyone posts here, at least body wise, and another who was actually kind of hot and pretty) both pretty much one night stands so I guess it's better than nothing.

It's great, but sex is the most overrated thing on earth.
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Well, yeah. I can't talk to most of the normies. Especially females. Literally have nothing to talk about with them, and they expect you to talk. No way for me, i guess. And in the 3rd world countries, where i am from, it's shameful to be a virgin, guess i'll have to kill myself.
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>>136963890
I very much doubt it, at least in Germany/Austria. Here the reproduction rate is 1.4 or 1.3 per women, in the US among whites you have something like 1.9 which is SIGNIFICANTLY higher.
We are actually dying off, that's close to what Russia had during its worst times and hyperinflation in the 90ties (1.1)
Imagine that, extremely wealthy German countries have today a reproduction rate that is almost as bad as Russia during hyperinflation and when parts of Moscow had heating turned off during winters because of how bad it was.
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>>136964299
well thats because people are CHOOSING not to have kids

that has nothing to do with the roastie myth that naturally everyone would marry an alpha male and they have 200 wives and nobody else reproduces
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21 virgin
good body but face and height is avg. no manlet or deformities.
is it possible for me to find a virgin qt at this age? i cant stand modern women
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>>136964082
>After her I've fucked 2 other different girls (one that looked kind of like that anzu chick everyone posts here
That was a trap you fucked
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>>136956806
This
Godspeed anon.
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>>136963371
Yes and no. I also have two kids who are great. That said, my wife is an old-school stay-at-home mother, I go to work and run the business. We made a conscious decision to run an old-school (aka healthy and normal) nuclear family, which is hard to do today.

It is sad, mature, adult women are very rare today. Modern civilization has utterly destroyed women far more than men. These weak, vapid , entitled emotional cunt balls are nothing like my wife or the real women of yesteryear.

In fact, it's not even fair to say men are being feminized; they are being turned into girly men. Real women (the few that are left) are not the pussies these girly men are.
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>>136955135
>What the fuck can we do about the male virgin epidemic?

End single motherhood, provide positive male role models, and make it okay to explain to young men how stuff actually works with women. When I was virgin growing up my libtard parents raised me with this nice guy mentality and any attempts at aggressive behavior were quickly snuffed. On top of that I had a borderline abusive bully of an older sister who made me miserable until I was old enough to fight back and not take her shit. My parents are great people and had good intentions but I would say my upbringing was why I remained a virgin for so long, and I'd be willing to bet that many incels have the same story.
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>>136964082
Also, every one of those chicks ended up either getting married or pregnant like 6 months later after I was with them.
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>>136963002
knew a dude who lost it in his early 30s with one of the hottest girls i've met.
there's hope anons.
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>>136961212
>scale
You forgot rich. Rich adds at least 3 points to any scale.
But I like your chart. No negroids.
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>>136955135
>Stressed about losing virginity forever
>Lost it at 22
>Had sex a few times after that feels
>Don't even really care about getting laid all the time anymore

Sex is kinda overrated tbqh. Rather have a loving wife
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>>136964739
wow congratulations you fornicated
finally

something jesus said is worthy of going to hell for all eternity for

CONGRATS FOR FINALLY MAKING IT AND HAVING SEX IN UR 30S !!!

with a women you didnt marry

WOW U MADE IT
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>>136957877

I thought mgtow was a Jewish plot, but after considering it; I have had sex... So I'm not desperate to get laid just to experience some pussy. I can use a Russian surrogate to bear my kids. I will not have a divorce, I will not have my kids taken away by a crazy bitch, I will not have to pay alimony for kids I'm not allowed to see. We are reconstructing the family, but we are excluding something, pic related.
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>>136963692
I think it can be a symptom of problems, sometimes. Financial issues for instance. But no, I don't think it's the catastrophe it's made out to be. If it were some 3 percent of men in their 20s who are virgins, then I would agree with the mainstream narrative that there's something seriously wrong with them, but the percentage is much, much higher, so it has to be looked at on a case by case basis.
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>>136961948
Incorrect. Female sexual attraction to males is purely circumstantial and determined by environmental flux. When the State, gives women who choose wrong a "safety net" through welfare, it literally alters the types of men women are sexually attracted to. This society is far from healthy or natural. It's extremely perverse.
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Jesus was a virgin. Newton was a virgin. Pussy distracts from greatness.
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>>136964395
Look for 18yo girls and accept it's better to fuck something than wait for that.

>>136964510
Well good for you glad this can still happen.
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>>136965195
were not trying to be great either jesus and newton probably support being a humble nobody not being great
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>>136964943
Well, good point, but still, status and money are prime prerequisites because at least then she''ll be able to pluck a decent amount of cash out of the safety net.

>>136964876
What, a man is not allowed to get laid off once in 40 years? Or what ,you're supposed to eliminate every possible hardship in life? I simply think it's natural, women won't fuck the majority of men. Every human living today has twice as many female ancestors than male. Peterson says that women being highly reproductively selective is the reason we split off from chimps, whose females aren't nearly as selective. So it's pure biology.
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>>136964082
sex is overrated but sex can be amazing if you find a girl you really click with, my gf at the mo is the best sex ive had, she's super tigt n wet, always horny and willing to do anything, i've had relationships where sex was awful n made me think i was becoming impotent but in reality she was just an awful fuck, i lost mine aged 16 n have had around 40/50 girls, im 30, im 6'1, average weight, not too muscular n i'm told i've an attractive face, my little brother is currently a 27 yr old virgin
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>>136965195
Jesus wasn't a virgin he literally had a prostitute gf
Newton was gay he buggered boys all the time
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>>136955135
>Kikes want to take away my purity
Heck off, mate.
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>>136961593
Le 14% face
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>>136964876
I can tell you that I've probably ruined my life by not staying with the first girlfriend when I was 18.
I had lots of women afterwards, I made a lot of money and I have status now, but I can't trust any women in the pool of women where I can realistically look for wife material
I'm in my mid thirties, so I can only get myself a women at 25 or so without being socially ostracised as a pedo or something.
And women with 25 already had at least 20 dicks if they don't look like monsters.
So I'll have to accept a wife that will likely steal my money and ruin the lives of our children an mine.
Don't repeat the same mistake, stay with the first true love. (but it should be for both the same, not first love for a male and a bitch that had 10 guys before you)
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>>136955408
>that pic
no ethnics
try again
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>>136965342
first of all evolution never happened

and then maybe if we didnt have such a degenerate fornicating society then women wouldnt be on a pedestol and men would have equal value\

why arent the men selective and get to pick their bride?

see it works both ways ur just a cuck
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>>136956806
Fucking this. So many spewing hypocritical shit about the societal benefits of a population that values marriage yet don't actually value it themselves.
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>>136965412
>my little brother is currently a 27 yr old virgin
What's he like?

I have several friends who are virgins and are in their 30s, and I dunno if its a coincidence or not but both of them are weabos and ugly, and one of them is probably a closet homo
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>>136955135
>which every animal is capable of
a lot of animals do this by force. we are restricted from doing this by 'civil society'.
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>>136965537
>first of all evolution never happened
Ah, I see the "american education" meme is real.
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>>136955135
>if you don't save yourself for marriage you're a degenerate
>if you don't fuck whores every day, you're a failed specimen

you just can't win in this life, can you
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>>136959526
Nothing wrong with waiting. I just don't understand /pol/ sometimes, they want qt virgin wife; yet they want too manwhore around.
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>>136965342
That's what I'm saying.
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>>136965488
Why does he bother with that hair at all?

Wouldn't it be better for him to cut it?
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>>136958361
>THIS
>FUCKING THIS
>Just stop making geting laid the focus of your life.
>Start improving yourself and the girls will come (some, not all).
>But at the end of the day you'll be so much more confident on yourself that talking to girls suddenly won't be that hard.
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>>136965777
The brother of a good friend of mine is in that age and a virgin.
He's not ugly or something, maybe a 6/10 or so. He's not a totally unpleasant person, maybe sometimes a little bit of a pain in the ass.
He would have gotten a wife 100 years ago, I'm sure of it.
Today he works the bare minimum and goes to anime conventions. He's not even going out to party even though we constantly try to convince him.
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>>136959526
Nothing, would have done the same if I just knew back then.
Luckily at least I was smart enough to not allow myself getting STDs or shit like that.
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>>136955949
outside of 4chan this is well known. The average virginity is lost at 15.7 in most of Western World. That means, ~50%+ of HUMANS in this countries lose their virginity around the time they get their learner's permit.
>t. 25 year old KHV NEET with no driver's license
>tfw 15 year olds have more adult points than me
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>>136956065
Lost it at 23, muh purity is nothing more than an excuse for not losing it when you don't want to accept the more glaring problems: no self-confidence, socially awkward, orbiter, fedora, etc. Work past it and move on with your life, it's actually really fucking easy that I felt stupid for not having lost it long ago; I had to abandon the muh purity excuse first though. The older you get, the more people think something is fucking wrong with you
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>>136956923
But what if you panic every time you get close to having sex and panic. Such as its paid for the proustite is ready and you just slip out the bathroom window in a blind panic?
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>>136965954
So you have no problems with that? Knowing you're basically worthless if you don't have a fat wallet? Because nothing else you do has no objective value, you can be honest, you can be intelligent, but it's for nothing if you don't have cash and unfounded self confidence.
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>>136955135
Escorts for every Virgin over 20
I'm 22 & I'm taking the jump next month.
It will clear up my head & remove a stigma which inhibits me from thinking clearly.
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>>136965777
he is probably autistic ( never been disgnosed) but he is quiet, pretty socially retarded, fairly good looking, on the outside theres nothing that youd look at him n think 'virgin' its weird, i lost mine fairly early n have had girls around all the time so he has been exposed to girls but just never happened for him, weird
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What's wrong with remaining pure until you find someone perfect?
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>>136966212
The percentage is not fucking 95. Not even close. I posted a source with my percentage. He doesn't have shit for that number.
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Matthew 5:27-29
28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.


1 John 2:15-17
Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

>>136966380
>I'm 22 & I'm taking the jump next month.

i dont recommend it
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>>136960565
who tf put that together?
only 3 of those 9s are even close
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>>136966425
fuck a nigger or you're going to hell.
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>>136966425
nothing but hat happens if you wait til your married to find out you've erectile dysfunction or some other disorder youd only know if youd had sex?
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>>136966425
masturbation is bad for your balls.
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>>136966649
How could that happen. You never had an erection without a women being around?
I don't believe that there are many men out there who can masturbate but always fail with women.
At least not because of a biological issue, it must be psychological then.
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I'm a 24 year old autistic virgin.
I've had numerous golden opportunities to get laid but fucked them up everytime by being autistic.
If I don't get laid by next year I'm killing myself
I don't know how other pathetic virgins hold on for so long
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>>136955135
Completely natural that the majority of men will not reproduce.

The system we had in place for millennia was unnatural and gave virtually every male a chance to reproduce, tying individual women to men. Once you get rid of this system, it goes back to natural selection, wherein the minority of men reproduce with the majority of women.

Problem is that we might want some of the beta males to reproduce, since, while they may not be what women want, they are very beneficial to society. We want to incentivise them to live by forcing women to rely on them, so that they don't drop out of society entirely, which is what we are seeing happen.

Solution is two part: first, end the welfare state for single mothers that allows women to make terrible choices when it comes to mate selection by relying on the government.

Second, which is much harder, has to be a societal change in views on sexuality and promiscuity. We would need to go back to shaming people who have sex before marriage or have children before marriage, make them into outcasts to discourage the behavior. This will be basically impossible to do because the pill allows women to be promiscuous without any risk, and men will always be willing to oblige them, given our nature. There's really no fix for this.
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>>136966859
umm I'm not referring to an erection.. i'm talking bout the ability to maintain one then to ejaculate and you'll only know that upon having sex
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>>136966928
see>>136966521

thats a horrible perspective that its a goal to lose your virginity
and a priority in life to sin against god and fornicate by having sex with a women ur not married to

thats awful dude im sorry you feel that way
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>>136966928
From semi autist to autist, you can train social skills like anything else.
If you fail train more by exposing yourself. No need to do anything drastic. You can do it.
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>>136961212
So some where around 7 everyone is gay.
And why is our boy Jimmy C in middle there?
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>>136966380
Go ahead m8, good luck and remember to wrap your willie!

>remove a stigma
This bothers me though, why is it a stigma?
There's not a big flashing neon sign over your head that reads "VIRGIN". And I suppose you dont' tell you're a virgin to everyone you meet.

When I lost my V at 18, I took a bus home from my girl's place. I was beaming inside, and couldn't be happier. But I looked around and realized none of these people could tell I was no longer a virgin, and I'm sure they wouldn't give a damn anyway. People dont' pay as much attention to you as you think.
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>>136966968
Literally WHAT? Never heard of anyone masturbating constantly without having an ejaculation.
Maintaining one can be trained too.
If you are not into the weirdest psycho fetish imaginable it will always work if you give yourself some time.
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>>136967010
What's it like to be brainwashed by your parents and religion?
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>>136955852
Robowaifus are the solution
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>>136960851
>>136960240
Dude, Tinder works?
I set up a catfish profile a few weeks back, got a few matches, but none of the chicks bothered to respond. How in the hell did you get it to work?
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>>136955949
I am only 19 so you might be right
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>>136966928
After 25 you stop giving a fuck. If it's really that bad for you fuck a whore instead of killing yourself.
T. Wizard apprentice
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>>136956483
Yeah statistically within all specials that express sexual selection, most males do not reproduce. Humans aren't an exception.

The patriarchy that allowed for most men to have a wife was the exception that allowed for civilization to exist.
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>>136961413
> 6'2"
> manlet
Sorry nederbro, your problem isn't your height. It really, really isn't. There's something else wrong with you. Don't be unhappy about that, though, because it's probably easier to fix.
I'm a 5'8" canucklet and I have a fiancée, whom I fuck regularly. She just gave me road head last night. I assure you that I am, relative to the average Canadian, shorter than you are relative to the average Dutchman.
I asked her the other day about what attracted her to me to begin with. What'd she say? Confidence. I was a 28-year-old virgin when we met and *still* managed to be confident enough.
Seriously, man the fuck up. If I was 6'2" I'd be drowning in pussy. It's not your height.
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>>136955135
both men and women should remain virgins until marriage. You can play tough all you want, but you lack the self control of your ancestors.
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>>136955135
Fuck you! I take pride in my virginity since it is actually if you read the Bible a sign of true passion and celibacy. I've never had a girlfriend and guess what i consider that an accomplishment because it means im not degenerate

>every animal is capable of

No, the leader of the pack is, the actual fighting animals don't have sex. 99% of animals never have sex
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>>136967346
lol our ancestors didn't have self control, they just fucked in the barn in secret. Both men and women had regular affairs too.
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>>136967138
You can tell with me.
I'm a good looking guy but I act so uncofodent, am clumsy as fuck & have issues talking to people I don't know well
My body language practically SCREAMS virgin.
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>>136966928
>I don't know how other pathetic virgins hold on for so long
The other 10+ percent of men who are virgins in their 20s you mean?

You hold out by deciding that retrogaming is better than being dead. There are things in your life that you enjoy, or at least used to enjoy and can enjoy again if you work at it. If you repeat to yourself all day that being a virgin means you should die, that's what will kill you. Virginity itself isn't as painful as the Jewish narrative echoing in your head.
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>>136967489
But you do know what happens if there's a societal rule - only one wife in public?
Most men will find a wife. That's a big difference.
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>>136967204
whats it like to be brainwashed by satan through school and fake science and everything else

none of my family is christian
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I have quite a few male friends between 24-28 that are still virgins and I can confirm that it has psychological consequences.
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>>136967702
Like what?
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>>136967623
We are living in Sodom & Gomorrah today. It just hit me recently and I'm sure it will get much worse before it will get better again.
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>>136962715
Are you a super wizard?
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>>136967702
no shit it has psychological consequences because theyre not going to be given a wife like how its supposed to work for all human history where youre supposed to have an arranged marriage

and everyone is out fornicating and you lose hope
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>>136967607
Yeeh, and their wives will loathe them for the rest of their lives. Sounds like a foundation for a very happy family life. It's better to just to away with the charade, like modern society basically did.
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>>136966380
Maybe it's different when you're alone, but sleeping with my wife every night, after we had sex for the first time my need for it just increased. I wouldn't want to have lost my virginity and not had a stable relationship.

I think you sexual normies are just people who are fucked in the head from media brainwashing or broken homes.

I fapped and looked and pictures and stuff since puberty, but I wasn't seriously interested in sex until after being in love and cuddling/sleeping together every day.

Because we have marriage and birth control and child support, the "fuck everything that moves" strategy that still exists in our genes is obsolete, only the biparental child rearing strategy makes sense. I mean, unless you want to just blackpill and ignore your biological imperatives. I'm not gonna judge you or try to convince you to live life like a normal human, I just think it's naiive to think you can be happy by doing anything humans weren't evolved for.

Our society has made it illegal to inseminate random sluts and fill the world with bastard children, and for good reason, we aren't barbarians, kids need fathers.

>>136966230
You're a faggot. It's the other way around. Involuntary celibacy is disgusting and pathetic for the reasons you've cited, but voluntary celibacy isn't pathetic at all.

I met my lovely wife at 23, and we're having our first kid at 26 now.

What's up with all these unmarried dipshits who have gotten laid a few times and act like that means they've made it?
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>>136955135
Most men in history didn't breed, so face the fact that you'll have to struggle for women if don't have your shit set up.
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>>136967702
It really does. Everyone can tell you're not normal or that your body language is weird. You're either than friendzone guy or that creep pretty much no female friends.
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>>136967239
met my current gf on tinder n fucked a good 15/20 girls from there, its super easy unless youre a total sperg
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>>136956799
>a woman whose a virgin
They are extinct bro
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>>136964675
Having an older sister is a recipe for becoming a robot/incel
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>>136967911
Sure even though sex is a fucking poison. Read brave new world bro. Then read 1984. Sex is a terrible thing and im glad conservatism is starting to take over.
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>tfw get my wizard powers in 2 years
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>>136968049
Being friendzoned is good though because hey at least you have friends.
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>>136967911
It is certainly not better for society. If a large percentage of men are not married throughout most of their lives they will not work as hard, will not be willing to fight for their country and their people and people in general will be more likely to accept changes that will fuck up society. (like letting in millions of niggers)
Who gives a shit if a small percentage of wives despise their men. Most will accept and even be a good friend if the male takes care of shit and doesn't treat her badly.
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>>136968099
>met my current gf on tinder n fucked a good 15/20 girls from there, its super easy unless youre a total sperg

see this is the reason i dont masturbate anymore so i dont live my life as a sexual perv like this
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>>136967749
Like not being able to Party Rock
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>>136955135
I'm 19 and I have a good hint I'll never get laid
Given up
Who needs women when I have porn, TV, videogames and the internet r-right
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>>136967152
what? i think you are getting confused... im not talking bout masturbation... plenty of guys masturbate without issue but either cant get it up with a girl or go soft mid way or just cant cum, its surprisingly common, thats what i was saying, waiting til marriage for sex could be a disaster if the guy has never had any sexual experience, he may be able to cum when jerking off but might have problems with a girl and would only find it out after marriage
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>>136968291
You've failed at life. Beta
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>>136968335
But if you masturbate you will have no incentive to do stuff like that.

>>136968340
I agree with you man but don't watch porn, it's degenerate
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>>136968573
If you lost your virginity you failed at life.
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>>136967986
Good luck with your kid, man. Stay healthy
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>>136968335
a sexual perv? because i enjoy sex and dont have a problem hooking up with girls? that makes me a sexual perv?
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>>136968623
How so
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>>136968335
how's life tinny
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>>136968486
god was wrong t. you

you need to take her out on a test run first t. you

fkin freak

>>136968592
nah its still lust to look at the women through porn

>>136968703
yup according to the bible youre a whoremonger
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>>136968049
I guess that's a fair point. I can go on about how I think involuntary celibacy is a moral failing, but my psychological profile does not match that kind of person at all.

Like most men, my closest friends are mostly other men, but since highschool I've always had 2-3 female friends. I was not attractive to any women at 18, but by 23 I didn't have much trouble finding a wife at all, and while I was afraid about finding someone who would want to marry a weird dude like me, I was never afraid of just the idea of meeting and talking to women.

Like I say, I think it's got to do with being fucked in the head. People who weren't modeled positive role models for marriage and also have low assertiveness. When you add to that that our society is full of mixed messages about sex and taboos it's a big mess.
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>>136968099
I must be a sperg then because I've matched with about 60 girls since I got it tgree years ago and haven't even been on a date with a single one yet
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Well that gives me an idea for a business. The world's first all-virgin pornography production company. Every video is 2 virgins awkwardly going at each other.
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>>136968573
Jealous muggle detected.
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>>136967986
>What's up with all these unmarried dipshits who have gotten laid a few times and act like that means they've made it?

Fucking finally, a single fucking smart man in this thread.

>>136968247
It's not taking over, most conservatives are just people who are equally as degenerate as others, but they've rationalized to themselves that they're conservative. Wanna get redpilled about this? Go hang out with ''religious'' people.

>>136968322
It's not a small percentage of wives, remember, 60% of men didn't reproduce,which means that it is possible we're talking about 50% of wives. Secondly, women don't fucking care. They don't select for traits that are good for ''society building'', they select raw physical strength and control over resources, they don't give 2 fucks about the society they live in, the only important thing is having a man that can pound other men and beasts and bring food.
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>>136968486
Even among the strictest of Catholics not being able to perform (create children) is grounds to nullify marriage.
Same goes for perversion or other extreme dysfunctions that will make marriage impossible.
So I don't know what the issue is. There might be a very small minority of men who can't perform, but most will be able given enough time and "training".
If your wife is not willing to help on that then why should you help your wife? Like paying all bills, doing all hard work and such.
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>>136968486
After I lost my virginity I realized it took me forever to cum, to the point women got upset or felt something was wrong. That's when I realized I should stop masturbating so much, although this never happened since I almost never really get laid anyway and my balls hurt if I don't ejaculate in more than a week or so.
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>>136955135
forced monogamy
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>>136955135
>which every animal is capable of
thats not how it works.
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>>136955949
It's actually like 75% by 21, at 30 is when the number is somewhere between 95-97%
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>tfw 27 y/o virgin
>15 y/o cousin already has a girlfriend and might have already lost his vcard.
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>>136968784
do you find it difficult talking to girls? i enjoy the whole chase of it all, i've quite a high IQ so i find chatting with girls very easy, i matched with 25 girls the day i got tinder and met one the same night(turned out to be a one night stand)
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>>136957556
>>136958514

Yeah I'm a Catholicbro.
I played lacrosse in college, dickbag.
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>>136969019
If you had a high IQ you'd find it very hard.
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>>136968796
I do not disagree with any of that.
But we are better off when 80% or more of men are working their asses off and are vigilant to any possible threats than having only 40% of men (who are spoiled anyways because they can simply get another women) doing that.
Men do most work in society (aside from child rearing), men confront all threats that are coming from the outside.
If you constantly loose 50% of societies potential productivity you'll get eventually invaded and fucked by another culture.
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>>136955135
30yo nogfever virgin here, do other people realize what a freak I am? Not friends, obviously, but co-workers? Do they ever notice me never mentioning a gf or even going out with people? I look pretty normie, not fat anymore, no major deformity.
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>>136955135
>What the fuck can we do about the male virgin epidemic?
destroy the 4chan servers
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>>136968836
yea porn is the worst thing a man can watch, stops the 'need' to get laid, really damages you psychologically, i quit porn in 2007 and haven't looked at it since, sex is a big part of mine n my girlfriends lives, if i was watching porn i prob wouldn't have been bothered to find a girl, i have sex twice a day every day and have done for the last 3 years
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>>136969140
At a certain age people start talking behind your back. "Hey have you noticed anon never mentions a gf? Is he married? Does he live alone?" You shouldn't care what they say though.

What do you mean with nogfever? As in liking black chicks?
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>>136967556
I can relate, I'm taller than avg, been told I'm handsome by a lot of girls in the past, and once I was told by this absolutely gorgeous girl I was talking to she initially had a crush on me, but lost interest because she thought I was, and I quote, "a fucking wimp".

It was then I decided to grab a hold of my balls and start bettering myself. That was 2 years ago. even today I wouldn't call myself a player, even though I have that reputation among my buddies. I'm still shy (introvert since childhood) and laconic in person, with a wit drier than the desert and a sense of humor so dark it picks cotton in Georgia. But I started believing in myself. And take my word, every flaw you think you have (excluding severe genetic ones) can be improved without having to renounce to who you are.

Girls are initially attracted to looks (and certainly being good looking has let me get away with things less attractive people wouldn't have had), but what they ultimately look for in a man is confidence and masculinity.

And I can vouch for that, I've seen men who could pass for a Mordor Orc score chicks simply because they were confident and didn't give a fuck.
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>>136963585

No. You're just unattractive.
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>>136969113
this is not true, I know plenty of high IQ guys that are great with women and know plenty of high iq autists that suck with girls, note the word autist
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>>136967489
and guess what, they are the ones who brought this degenerate reality forth.

Those who have morals and stick to the high ground are the ones who make society work. The moment this is thrown out is the moment society begins to fail.
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>>136969373
I think they were trying to say no gf ever.
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>>136969113
Not even hard, just tedious. Conversation is going to be shitty because you can't really get into more dense ideas.
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Tbqh I sort of wish I was ugly so I'd feel better about not getting laid. I'd actually have some justification for it.
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>>136969332
Glad you stopped watching porn but sex is degenerate as fuck. same with having a girlfriend

>>136969474
Well you said "i have a high IQ so i find it easy"

Also what about this guy. I know it's just a TV show but this type of character exists, he's not autistic and he's very high IQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKkbgWt8OXs
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>tfw MGTOW so will never be cuck to pussy

There is more to life then having sex with the first skank you can find. There is no reason to get married or have kids because white genocide is a myth. Lower-class whites will always breed like rats just like every other third world scum so you need not concern yourself with imaginary statistics.

Nobody will care what kind oif life you lived after you died so don't overthink it.
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>>136955949
college dorm floor i had was 90% + virgins and all left college the same. engineering college yo. The frat party i went to once was 98% dick
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>>136969019
Very very difficult, I never know what to say to them other than "hi" "how are you" "nice dress" "want a drink?"
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>>136969332
>I have sex twice a day
Damn, that's nice. You know what I actually miss and crave about sex? It's not so much sticking my penis inside a hole, but the whole intimacy aspect of it. I actually love making out, foreplay, touching a girl's hair and whatnot. This is probably because I never experienced it as a teen like most people, but the whole cuddling and touching thing is amazing for me. The first time I got to cuddle with a girl after sex and her head was on my chest I felt I could die in peace at that moment.
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>>136969116
Well I can tell you that I'm certainly not helping to confront threats, I'd be singing with joy if I saw these immigrants killing women and children in the street. I would only help my sibling's kids. So yes, you're right about that. But again, from the female perspective, they'll just spread their legs for the invaders, doesn't make a fucking difference to them, it's the men that will be killed off. Men are simply disposable and worthless, nothing else, no one cares about you, you're not a person, you're just a lump of flesh valued for the thickness of paper in your leather money holder.

>>136969614
How can you make a society work if you're a miniscule minority?
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>>136955135
The virgin problem is really the European problem
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>>136969112
oh cool the girls used to play that at my school

so what are you, 5' 7"?
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>>136969685
lol good job boosting your self esteem. the main reason you are a virgin, is because you are ugly. go look in the mirror harder, the only reason females will fuck you is you decently attractive. which you are not.

>hurr durr i look like a chad but can't get laid because i dont care and my social skills are bad

LOOK IN THE MIRROR YOU UGLY ASS MOTHER FUCKER
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>>136955822
his mom gives it for free
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>>136957877
>build and maintain society
Yes they provide a playing ground for young flowers to flourish out of motherly earth.
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>>136969849
>The first time I got to cuddle with a girl after sex and her head was on my chest I felt I could die in peace at that moment

Amen to that brother
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>>136969640
Oh, that makes sense. I should stop coming to this site so often. Next time I go to USA I'm afraid I'll get my head kicked in because I'll accidentally say "nigger" outloud or something.
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>>136969883
I'm Anglo and proud Virgin.
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>>136969809
White line of work? How long have you been in the city? How do you think we can take power away from the central banks? Did you know that there was a third tower that collapsed on 9/11, that wasn't even hit by a plane?
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>>136969857
Again, I do not not disagree. But what you maybe fail to see is that your culture has some value to it.
Because that changes definitely once you are invaded by Muslims.
Wanna live in Saudi Arabia? No? Okay, then we have to do our job and get our women under control again.
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>>136968049
>You're either than friendzone guy or that creep pretty much no female friends.

See I don't buy this kind of rhetoric. You essentially said "You either have female friends that you don't have sex with, or you have no female friends." So really, you're repeating the definition of virginity. For what? I could say "You know man, if you don't have a high paying job, you're not going to be able to afford as much stuff." What's the point of saying that, other than to draw attention to how bad the problem is?

Now, how bad is the problem in reality? Let's say, instead of sexual success, we're talking about financial success, or educational achievement. Not having a college degree can be a problem, right? But how often do we say that suicide is the solution?

How do we judge, objectively, how bad is it if a man is a virgin in his 20s? Well, let's look at the percentages. Looks like it's more than 10 percent. But we've been hearing over and over again that these men are psychologically disturbed weirdos. Really? Should all of these men be contemplating suicide? Because there is a narrative floating about that it would be reasonable for them to contemplate suicide. Does that narrative make any sense, or is it being pushed for some other reason?
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>>136969938
SUPREME GENTLEMAN
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Having to listen about how people on /pol/ are unfortunate because women won't fuck them is making my day.

You can't play the game, so you come up with delusions about making up your own rules or reasons. Women are sluts! They just want to fuck and not settle down! They want a man who is financially stable!

Oh god it's honestly pathetic. I love it.
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>men losing their virginity will somehow make them able to win wars
Heres the solution: dont give a fuck about women or the virgin problem, give men steroids and other stimulants. Bam. War won.
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I am a virgin at 24 and I honestly have no desire to even meet women. If I am horny I just jerk off to porn. And aside from being horny, what reason is there to have a girlfriend? Women suck, marriage and children are impossible to have right now and there is literally nothing to gain.

And before you say I am just some losers who cant get laid so I just pretend I don't care, I graduated university last year, I have a well paying job as an engineer (for someone who just started anyways), I have been working out since 2 years, I am not a midget, not deformed and able to normally talk to people. I am certainly not Adonis but not some loser either.

I just really don't see the point in having a relationship with women in the current time where everything regarding families is stacked against men. I would rather just stay single and focus on my own life.
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>>136957688
You do know there's a reason why the brightest minds of this century have called the times that we're living in "the downfall of the west" right?
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>>136969729
lol whats degenerate bout having a girlfriend? we plan on marrying?

i have a high iq, it makes communicating with people super easy as i can relate to most people, talking to women is easy its all about listening (or pretending to listen) and making them feel understood and safe, thats all you need to do, you let them do most of the talking, mainly asking them questions bout themselves, its super easy and they are all the same, when you realise this it becomes a whole lot easier
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>>136970048
To be completely honest I don't really care, I don't value my life anyway. I hate my culture, it's full of people pretending to be honest while being the worst fucking scumbags you can imagine. And bro, there will never be some collective male effort to reign in women. And good riddance I say, men want to spend their 20s fucking whores and then become miserable later because they're so emotionally crippled and can't find a solid wife? Crime and punishment.
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I've given up on finding a woman. None ever look my way or pay attention to me.
Instead what I would like to do is jack myself up as much as I can and try to eliminate the rest of the competition by any means necessary.
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>>136966230
teach me
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>>136969994
>>136969849
Yeah.

I like when I'm inserted and she's on top because there's nothing between us and she can lay on me with our skin touching from head to toe including the pubis.

I feel bad for MGTOWs who have cucked themselves into avoiding this feel.
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>>136969933
When you have girls looking at you every time you go out, but struggle to close the deal it isn't because you're ugly- simple minded little shit.
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>>136969809
hmm i know what you mean, do some research on the girls, look at their profiles and find out what theyre into, music, films, any activities they do, talk bout them, ask them questions, just make the focus on them, women LOVE talking bout themselves so do just that
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>>136970264
Just get a girl who has money then get her pregnant then leave. Become a nigger, basically. The niggers are winning at this shit so you should play the game the nigger way as well. Show those niggers who's the real nigger. You're that nigger, hun, You're that nigger.
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Also here's a redpill most of you need to swallow:
Lower your standards

Unless you're a fucking Chad, no women 7/10 or above is going to fuck you just because you think you deserve it.
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just turned 25 and I never go outside nor do I socialize at all. no friends either
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>>136965940
>want too manwhore around
No.
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>>136969857
The majority is not always the most prominent. Even when most may be degenerate, when the few noble people are able to criticize and condemn these actions enough for them to be at least kept in secret, society is better off.

With that said, when a population is extremely devoted to their religion, the odds of betraying their faith fall drastically. Degenerate actions will obviously still occur, but much less. If you think a place such as colonial America had as much premarital sex as our modern day, you are fooling yourself.
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>>136970412
Dude, I have a CRAZY high IQ and can't talk to anyone. Also i think all forms of marrying and sex is degenerate. I spend all day on 4chan but at least im pure.
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>>136970572
This is the best position ever. You have access to everything from her ass to her tits and you can kiss her neck and tits and hear her moaning right on your face and ears, and it's also the position in which women cum more easily.
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>>136959757
is just as delusional as >>136962052
But, what you can do is improve yourself and the way your environment affects you.

While this isn't just about a particular person's inability to interact with the outside world, there certainly is value in analyzing the world around you.

Regardless, the real answer here is the destruction of the mating pool. Masculine men are always going to thrive as women are inherently coded to pursue masculine partners, as that's what made their ancestors survive all this time. The reason the mating pool being tainted matters is because if men aren't masculine, and females aren't feminine, then the pool is irrelevant if there aren't any viable candidates.

What's the solution here? Everyone improving themselves (ie. return to values, spiritual pursuit, respecting oneself). Sure, we can see problems with everyone else, and conclude that the pool is tainted (men aren't masculine and women aren't feminine), but, we're avoiding admitting there's something wrong with ourselves. One can only change oneself so much, and frankly learning how to improve oneself tends to lead one to discover just how much they can actually affect in their environment.

In conclusion, women are shitty, yes. That's a very valuable viewpoint to have. But, if we can't recognize that men are also shitty, we're all just avoiding the problem. Once this turns in to a blame game, it becomes a "let's all be virgins" game really quickly. Sure, talk about the problems you see manifesting themselves in your environment. That's valuable. But, if you can't also recognize your own problems, you're only harming yourself.
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>>136969849
yea man once when we wake up n when we go to bed plus during the day when i get in from work so minimum of twice a day :)

yea the intimacy is what is the best about it, sure sex is great but those moments when we are just laying cuddling, playing with her hair as she plays with my chest hair, rolling a joint on her ass or boobs, just spendng time with each other intimately, I couldn't live without it
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>>136970734
you have a friend in Jesus :^)
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I don't know how to talk to people. All my friends are people who initiated conversations with me originally as well.

My looks are average but I have no confidence and having no confidence is obviously vagina repellent.
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>>136970572
MGTOW here. I feel bad for you for getting involved in this degeneracy.
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>>136965940
It's almost like like the over 10million monthly visitors /pol/ has are not all the the same person.
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>>136955135

The answer is actually quite simple: Improve you fitness noticeably and go to places where you can find women. After that its just try and error.
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>>136970473
Well that sucks. Hope you get out of this somehow. It's always worth it to try and change things up if you feel that your life sucks as it is right now.
What could you loose if you tried?
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>>136970939
I am Jewish (not really but according to /pol/ since im part Jewish) but seriously im MGTOW, it's great. I'm actually following in the footsteps of philosopher Jean-Paul Satre II
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>>136970835
You think people care about being condemned? You think they regret their way of life? No they don't, they live like they do intentionally and because it makes them happy. Religion is dead and buried, no one is satisfied with the ''suffer on earth, be rewarded in heaven'' adage anymore. And hell, what's the point of Christianity, for example, which teaches that everyone will be forgiven, that God loves sinners, etc.? On the other hand, you can't scare people with hell anymore either.
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>having sex before marriage is degenerate
>being a virgin and not having sex is degenerate

make up your minds already you faggots
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>>136971340
>pol is one person
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>>136971116
>>136971116
>go to places where you can find women

Where?
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>>136971240
My life doesn't suck, I have 2 MAs and a decent job. Sure, money is tight, but I live comfortably. My problem is what I've been describing, males are worthless and no woman genuinely loves you for who you are, they just care about what you can give them. And this is the natural way of things, this is how we were created or evolved or whatever. And the whole fucking thing seems like a farce to me.

And don't get me wrong, I used to get plenty of female attention, I just rejected them because deep inside I'm not sure I'm cut out for family life.
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>>136971340
>taking pol memes at face value
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>>136971315
Except sex is suffering. I pity those who have sex. MGTOW all the way.
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>>136966928
>I don't know how other pathetic virgins hold on for so long
By having hobbies that exclude social interactions. Arts, outdoor activities, cooking, games, etc...

I'm 23 yo virgin and I have just given up on women.
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>>136970905
HOW do i make a woman cum? virgin here working on a lot of self improvement
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>>136971697
It's not suffering, don't be ridiculous anon. It's nice but severely overrated. It's like any other human activity, it gets boring if you do it a lot, that's it.
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>>136971796
First focus on getting your dick inside a pussy.
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>>136971773
>>136966928
22 year old semi-autistic virgin, i mostly just didn't want to have sex with the few opportunities i had because it didn't feel right, like i would barely know the girl and it didn't feel special

that might sound gay but it's true -- i just want a beautiful trad qt wife to impregnate
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>>136969933
/thread
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>>136971887
I've spent thousands, probably tens of thousands of hours on 4chan, never got bored.
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>>136971921
nah dominicano repbulicano amigo i want to do it right the first time, not trying to be some type of player here just want a faithful qt gf who i can redpill and make her my wife
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>>136971796
Foreplay. You don't put your penis inside a vagina until it you can scrape a wad of goo off her pussy with your hand.
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>>136971315
People who are dedicated to their faith do fear being condemned you retard, and when the majority of the population is religious, many will follow their doctrine. This was the case in some older societies.

You lack an understanding of Christianity as well, falling for mainstream lies. God loves sinners, just as a parent loves their child even when they are disobedient, however that does not mean they will have access to heaven after choosing hell through their actions. Christianity also doesn't teach that all will be forgiven. Only those who seek forgiveness and humble themselves in the face of God will be saved.

Funny how every time one you of you goytheists debate religion, you have no idea what you are talking about and lack any real understanding of Christianity.
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>>136971610

I found university to be a good place. The gym and clubs are also ok, but I wouldnt expect too much from the latter.
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>>136969933
>>136972062
thats ignorant

some people who are isolated neets cant ever meet anyone ever

and lost their friends long ago

it doesnt matter what they look like IF THEY DONT HAVE PEOPLE THEY HANG OUT WITH

U RETARDS
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>>136969933
Women care about social status way more then about looks.
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>>136972169
That's nasty. (BARF)
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