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Why do liberals have higher IQs than conservatives?

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>>136946598
nope.
they're both equally retarded.
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>>136946598
hahaha why don't they include brand new boat liberals?? Afraid??? Afraid of the truth????
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>>136946598
They don't
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>>136946598
Fake news. Also demographically impossible.
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jew masons murdered captain morgan and bill cooper
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>>136946598
Why do niggers in the US have an IQ of 85?
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Why are all non very conservatives so retarded?
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>>136947069
>what is population
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>>136946765
>>136946927
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289614000373
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289609000051
http://www.unz.com/jthompson/us-academics-lefty-and-liberal-because/
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/201003/why-liberals-are-more-intelligent-conservatives
http://theconversation.com/do-smart-people-tend-to-be-more-liberal-yes-but-it-doesnt-mean-all-conservatives-are-stupid-57713
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>>136946598
You're implying that niggers and spics are used in these tests and that they can afford to take an IQ test.
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>>136947069
Ger many thanks!
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>>136946598
You need a higher IQ to engage in the extreme mental gymnastics necessary to hold such insane & frivolous views.
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Bait thread boys. Let it ride.
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>>136947160
Genetics and environment, same reason for IQs of nearly everyone. Also I never said anything about the IQ of blacks or any specific non-ideological group. However when you control for variables like race, at least for whites, liberals have a decidedly higher average IQ, and that relation likely holds for other population groups/races as well.
>>136947069
See above, controlling for race, liberals have higher IQ than conservatives, so black liberals will be smarter than black conservatives, asian liberals smarter than asian conservatives, etc.
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>>136947167
Niggers and spics vote Democrat. Ashkenazi Jews and East Asians are too small to offset these results.
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>>136946598
Kek...and they still chose Hillary.
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>>136947515
> Higher IQ people vote for Hillary
> This is somehow a negative indictment of Hillary instead of something in favor of her and liberals/democrats
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>>136947426
>However when you control for variables like race, at least for whites, liberals have a decidedly higher average IQ, and that relation likely holds for other population groups/races as well.
[citation needed]
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>>136947612
See >>136947207
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289614000373
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289609000051
http://www.unz.com/jthompson/us-academics-lefty-and-liberal-because/
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/201003/why-liberals-are-more-intelligent-conservatives
http://theconversation.com/do-smart-people-tend-to-be-more-liberal-yes-but-it-doesnt-mean-all-conservatives-are-stupid-57713

http://www.asanet.org/research-and-publications/journals/social-psychology-quarterly/why-liberals-and-atheists-are-more-intelligent
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/15/opinion/why-are-the-highly-educated-so-liberal.html
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>>136947515
I despise Clinton but this argument pisses me off every time.

>LOOK THE MAP OF THE US LOOKS SUPER RED SO TRUMP OBVIOUSLY SHOULD HAVE WON

Great idea, let's just give one vote to each square mile of land. 1 man 1 vote???? LOL
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>>136947989
Archive
>https://nytimes com/2016/05/15/opinion/why-are-the-highly-educated-so-liberal.html
https://archive.is/U9Ac6
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>>136946598
ftfy
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>>136947989
>However, I find that individuals who identify as Republican have slightly higher verbal intelligence than those who identify as Democrat (2–5 IQ points), and that individuals who supported the Republican Party in elections have slightly higher verbal intelligence than those who supported the Democratic Party (2 IQ points). I

Did you even read the abstracts you utter retard?
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>>136948117
Its called the Electoral College faggot, and that's the way it works here. Feel free to move if you don't like it.
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Biggest factor is probably that they consider Jews to be "White". Jews are "liberal" because they have high IQ and hate white people and have rightly concluded that liberalism is the best vehicle for white genocide. If you look at non-Jew white liberals, they tend to be on the dopey side (befitting their useful idiot status).
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>>136947207
nitpicking. youre googling why are liberals so smart or something.
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>>136948435
OP's sources contradict his meme graph
>>136948350

Remember to sage this bait thread.
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>>136948492
Read the abstracts:
>However, I find that individuals who identify as Republican have slightly higher verbal intelligence than those who identify as Democrat (2–5 IQ points), and that individuals who supported the Republican Party in elections have slightly higher verbal intelligence than those who supported the Democratic Party (2 IQ points).

They contradict his bait.
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>>136946598
106 iq lol.
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>>136948492
>>136948596
>>136948350
What's the argument against academia being extremely liberal while also being among the highest-average intelligence employer/workplace?
>>136948435
Many people on /pol/ argue that Jews don't actually have higher IQs than whites but simply cheat/collude/use nepotism, etc. to succeed.
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>>136948753
Stop posting.
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>tfw the average ashkenazi IQ is 112-115, which is even higher.
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>>136949323
Probably based on a garbage study that didn't include Haredim since it's 103 in Israel itself.
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>>136949323
Well that's another thing, Ashkenazi Jews and atheists/agnostics have higher IQs than most whites and religious people/theists, but that's another thing /pol/ denies for some reason.
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>>136946598
because our educational institutes are breeding grounds for communist and socialist propoganda
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>>136949458
Your pet niggers who vote Democrat have an IQ of 85 and have socially more conservative views than the Republican voters you came here to bait.
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Because being liberal means thinking abstractly, and abstract thinkers are more intelligent than concrete thinkers.
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>>136946598
the party that has like 90% of niggers is the highest iq?

lmao yeah right
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>>136949526
See
>>136949139
OP's own sources show that Republican voters have higher IQs than Democrat voters. "Liberal" and "Conservative" are goalposts that are easy to move. Niggers have "socially conservative views."
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>>136949621
Blacks are socially conservative only to an extent, they are among the most pro-choice demographic in the country.
> Pet niggers
I don't even particularly like them, I'm not a democrat, and I don't even identify as a liberal, I'm just asking why they have higher IQs on average, at least controlling for race.
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>>136946598
Old studies from before the switch.
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>>136949323
My IQ is in the mid 120's but I tend to lean to the right on most social issues. Maybe I have some kike in me. Kek
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Have read through the methodology of somenof these (((studies))) and it is funny the lengths they go to count niggers as conservative. For example, people that don't leave the home neighborhood is considered a conservative trait. Since niggers rarely leave their ghetto, this pushes many niggers as conservative.

Likewise, out of all the conservative political opinions, only a few are selected in the surveys. Usually they pick gay rights ans illegals since niggers don't really like faggots or spics.
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>>136949679
You're confusing liberal with Democrat. Poor black people (racism really necessary?) are not generally liberal.
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>>136949456
Most of Israelis aren't Ashkenazi.
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>>136947069
Me thinks I see a correlation
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>>136949825
I have a better question: why do you pretend to be brain dead?
>individuals who identify as Republican have slightly higher verbal intelligence than those who identify as Democrat (2–5 IQ points)

^from a study you cited.
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>>136949991
Look at the fucking map you dense Mizrahi. Average IQ of Israel is 95.
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>>136949925
Black people may vote for Democrats but ideologically most of them aren't liberal. Liberalism (as in property rights, realizing the utility of universal rights, democracy, etc.) generally requires a floor of abstract thinking somewhat beyond what a lot of them are probably capable of. They generally just vote for group/pragmatic interests.
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>>136949679
Blacks aren't liberal they just vote that way. They probably don't even understand the political titles to begin with.
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>>136947462
Reading was my weak part but I got higher than all of the races
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>>136950079
Are.. you retarded? I talked about the ashkenazi jews. not about arabs, mizrahis, christians and so on, which together are the most of Israel's population. Most israelis aren't ashkenazis.
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>>136947515
>What is population
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>>136950104
>>136950125
"Liberal" and "conservative" are goalposts easy to move. If you want to find the largest proportion of baptist Bible believing theist homophobes then you'll find them among your pet apes.
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>>136949925
Conservatism basically means being resistant to change or, alternatively, being socially and economically exclusive. If you think black people in the United States are generally "liberal", then you don't know what the meaning of liberalism and conservatism is.
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>>136950186
Literally brain dead.
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>>136946598
Really makes you think.
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>>136950011
Now what about all of the other studies?
What about academia which is overwhelmingly high-IQ and overwhelmingly liberal?
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>>136948117
its that people who dont inhabit most of the country should not dictate the entire countries laws.
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>>136947989
Because working class white voters choose Republican, so when you take out the Democrat non-whites democrats will have a higher IQ.
Stratify that by income, it'll cancel out
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>>136950300
What is "liberal"? Is the republican party liberal?
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>>136950295
Wikipedia states otherwise. Google "Average Ashkenazi IQ".
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>>136950351
Actually read what he cites:
>>individuals who identify as Republican have slightly higher verbal intelligence than those who identify as Democrat (2–5 IQ points)
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>>136946598
>The party of niggers, single women, and spics
>Higer IQ

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>>136950424
Secular Anglican master race.
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>>136950424
Great citations.
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>>136946598

The real concern here is self-awareness.

Liberals may be smarter or more educated - which may be the problem. Liberals believe they know whats best for everyone and are quick to make decisions for a group.

Conservatives, on the other hand, tend to believe in religion which asks its followers to submit to a higher will. As such, they don't concern themselves with making decisions for a group, as they know its not theirs to make.

Also, sage the slide thread.
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>>136950417
Liberal means being socially and economically inclusive and a preference for policies that progress towards maximal social and economic exclusivity.
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>>136950297
> The elite ruling upper caste of a complicated political movement is more intelligent than average
> Outlier/exception proves the general rule
> What are statistics
You really showed me :DD
>>136950417
Liberal is a broad range of beliefs generally characterized by social tolerance and willingness to change and irreverence towards religion/tradition.
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>>136950568
>>individuals who identify as Republican have slightly higher verbal intelligence than those who identify as Democrat (2–5 IQ points)
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289614000373

"Liberal" and "conservative" are goalposts that are easy to move.
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>>136950455
Yeah but either way its a bad argument since a lot more white people vote republican, so when you do average IQ Republicans will be disadvantaged.
Either way, Republicans pandering to dysgenical pro-lifers lower their average IQ, it would be even higher without them
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>>136946598
Because they misrepresent statistics.
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>>136950585
>>136950596
>social inclusive
>social tolerance
>willingness to change and irreverence towards religion/tradition.

A white republican voter is more of both than a nigger democrat. Hence
>>individuals who identify as Republican have slightly higher verbal intelligence than those who identify as Democrat (2–5 IQ points)
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289614000373
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>>136950503
>Higer
I guess they are better at spelling as well.
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Where did you find this?

Smarter people e.g. Asian/white men vote for Trump

Dumb people are liberals
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>>136950671
"Republican" and "Democrat" are meaningless. They don't actually tell you someone's beliefs, only their allegiances. By determining if someone is liberal or conservative (by a combination of self-report and simply asking them questions), you get a much better understanding of who they are ideologically.
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>>136950809
> A white republican voter is more of both than a nigger democrat. Hence
You're not stating anything new or radical here, whites are more liberal than other races overall. But that doesn't mean white Republicans are necessarily as liberal as some other whites.
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>>136950930
Apparently not.
>>individuals who identify as Republican have slightly higher verbal intelligence than those who identify as Democrat (2–5 IQ points)
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289614000373

>>136950980
The implied bait and ad hominem is that /pol/ is conservative because it supports Trump and the republican party and therefore it is stupid.
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>>136948753
>What's the argument against academia being extremely liberal while also being among the highest-average intelligence employer/workplace?

It's called O'Sullivan's law
And your sources are shit and testing Europeans or contradict your argument
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>>136946598
Why would you expect that the spectrum of human intelligence would necessarily map onto the difficulty of understanding politics such that 110-120 IQ liberals know what the fuck they're talking about?
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>>136951268
>leftism is entropy
At least we have a scientific definition here.
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>>136951114
/pol/ is conservative. We know this because of reading /pol/. Their Trump support is only reflective of that.

But I know socially left-leaning Trump supporters who rationalized voting Trump because they didn't want higher taxes and didn't believe Trump could / would attempt half of the shit he said he would.

If we're trying to determine someone's ideology, the most direct way to do that is to ask them what they believe. "Republican" and "Democrat" is indirect. For instance, you're conflating the relatively intelligent libertarian voters who are really only concerned with economic issues with the stupid hick in the South who hates black and brown people. These two people are ideologically dissimilar even though they vote the same party.

But I won't engage with you anymore on this since clearly you're obviously being irrational about the fact that liberals are more intelligent than conservatives on average, which would be expected when you consider intellectuals are overwhelmingly liberal, but whatever.
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>>136947069
This proves no matter how hight their IQ is the Americans are all a bunch of fat jew cocksucker retards. Muh republican muh democrat, what a democracy we live in, hard decisions :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!
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>>136949825
They don't

>http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289614000373

This one says conservatives have a higher IQ

>http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289609000051

This one is studying European foreigners, not Americans

>http://www.unz.com/jthompson/us-academics-lefty-and-liberal-because/
This one is circle jerking about Academia being liberal when they only hire liberals. Like Google
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>>136951688
>>individuals who identify as Republican have slightly higher verbal intelligence than those who identify as Democrat (2–5 IQ points)
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289614000373
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>>136946598
Because they made the count.
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because niggers count as "conservative" when it is convenient

otherwise, republicans are smarter than democrats

http://cfif.org/v/index.php/commentary/54-state-of-affairs/1357-pew-research-republicans-more-knowledgeable-than-democrats
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>>136951268
The problem with that is intellectuals have always been significantly more liberal than the general population. Always.

Conservatism is inherently less intellectual than liberalism. There's no intelligence needed to think solely in terms of the past, that which has already happened. Thinking towards the future requires you to actually build something new.

Now are there "smart" conservatives? Sure, but significantly less (compared to liberals) are "intelligent." They're not using higher-order thinking skills and thinking abstractly. They're just really good at following directions that arose from liberal ingenuity. These "smart" conservatives aren't even interested in academia because they don't think that way. They're more likely to go into fields like engineering and finance, where you just do what you're told.
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>>136951688

But I won't engage with you anymore on this since clearly you're obviously being irrational about the fact that when it comes to actual partisanship (aka niggers counting as democrats, not "conservatives") republicans are smarter
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>>136946598
Notice that it's only adolescents.

"If you’re not a socialist before you’re twenty-five, you have no heart; if you are a socialist after twenty-five, you have no head." - someone famous maybe
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>>136952583

>
Now are there "smart" conservatives? Sure, but significantly less (compared to liberals) are "intelligent."

given that ACTUAL conservatives (aka people that vote for the right) make more money than liberals, I doubt it

Trump voters were well over average income

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-mythology-of-trumps-working-class-support/

should I remind you that until the 1960s and their counter-revolution the upper classes were to the right of the general population?

that the european elites were the most interested in keeping the Old Order from leftist revolutions and from populist napoleons?
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>>136952583
Go ahead and give me source on that buddy

I can give you a source on O'Sullivan's law
It turns out the left is just a bunch of low IQ bigots

http://yoelinbar.net/papers/political_diversity.pdf
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>>136952583

for all your pseudo-intellectualism, you will simply not look into studies that actually accounted for race and partisanship
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>>136946598
Because conservatives have enough IQ to not take the IJew tests.
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>>136946598
>tfw too smart to vote for reasonable and sustainable policies
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>>136950180
Cool blog
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>>136952642
This illustrates another difference between liberals and conservatives: liberals identify significantly less with their political part of choice. conservatives tend to see being in their party as being part of a team where the goal is simply to "win" at all costs. Trump is exposing just how deeply ingrained this absurd sense of loyalty goes. It's unfathomable to even consider liberals rallying behind an Obama doing half the shit Trump is doing now. It's not even about ideology--it's really about supporting "your guy" and "winning" at all costs. It explains a lot of the conservative whataboutism: you guys think because you blindly follow anyone with an R that Democrats must to the same degree as well. Sorry, that's not how it works.

I hope you're not really an anarcho-capitalist. Are you 15 years old?
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>>136949999
Their is digits in thread.
That means I must post frog picture.
This is 4chan.
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>>136953535
You got a source on any of the bullshit you're saying
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>>136951268
what about cole's law ?
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>>136946598
Basically every post in here.
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>>136946598
This is just because IQ is leftocentric. UGHHHH *ROLLS EYES* IQ IS NOT A MEASUREMENT OF INTELLIGENCE. (unless it fits my agenda)

>>136950297
they would kill Einstein even though he would fall into the ubermensch category
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Here's a possible explanation. The older you get, the more likely you are to vote republican. There are less older people than younger, because the older you get, the higher your chances of death.

Furthermore, it's possible that the samples they drew from in their (((statistics))) are heavily overrepresented by younger people, which would skew the results drastically.
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>>136946598
anybody with a 106 IQ belongs on the short bus.
Also, who the fuck takes IQ tests past elementary school? Narcissistic faggots with low self-esteem. That's who takes IQ tests
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>>136946598
I'm conservative and have a IQ of 103. Your move.
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>>136948149
ah, there it is.
/thread
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>>136946598
Oh look OP discovered how to print graphs from Excel.
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>>136952924
The fact that you're judging intelligence by income just illustrates my point. Conservatives care about money more than liberals do and are willing to step over more people to get it. This does not relate to their level of abstract thinking, which is considerably less than liberals.

That Republicans are more economically well-off than Democrats isn't surprising. You are confusing Trump supporters with Republicans. Trump garnered support by appealing to retarded hicks. Most Republicans for most of the RNC election did not support Trump, but the plurality he gained from his support from retarded hicks was all he needed. When he became the Republican candidate, rich Republicans who just care about their taxes got behind him. It's not like they were suddenly going to switch Democrat out of a moral awakening. I grew up around these selfish people. I know EXACTLY how they are.
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>>136950522
>tfw glorious true american anglican
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuing_Anglican_movement
half my church knows about the jq and the other half is just kids and converts preparing for confirmation before we redpill them
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>>136946598
Have a tested IQ of 142 and am very conservative. If that standard dev is correct in the photo, that means I'm roughly 10 standard devs above normal. That would put me in the 99.9999999%ile, or basically it would mean I am 1 in 80 people alive with such views. I call bullshit on that data
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>>136954458
This is a very pretentious way of saying he stole the Democrats base
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>>136953871
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>>136946598
Hey look at this graph that I made in 2 minutes in mspaint without any sources on the studies. Fuck data and that shit when I can color shapes red, that already is argument enough that my graph is the reality, aint I right my Hillary suporting brother? We Democrats sure love to cover up dangerous data with fakes!
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>>136950724
>political ideology attracts complete morons
>yeah, but if you disregard the morons, we're left with smarter people
wow, check-fucking-mate
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I think you need to use a lot of intelligence to come up with verbose, overwrought justifications for a worldview that consists of whatever women tell you to do
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>>136954458
>Conservatives care about money more than liberals do and are willing to step over more people to get it. This does not relate to their level of abstract thinking, which is considerably less than liberals.
LOL nice claim but liberals are the easily marketed to consumerism obsessed children
CONSERVATIVES JUST WANT A FUCKING COMMUNITY AND SOUND BIGGER PICTURE YOU COMMIE SCUM
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>>136946598

biased IQ test questions.
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>>136946598
Look, if you get rid of black people and only compare whites, liberals are much much more intelligent than conservatives. The only reason they're even comparable is because of niggers.
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>>136957160
That's the same argument that people make to defend low-IQ groups like blacks but it also ignores the fact that there are cultural-agnostic unbiased tests like Raven's Progressive Matrices in which different groups still have different average IQs.
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I'm sorry, but liberals don't believe in IQ as a measure of intelligence. You make that abundantly clear every time we mention your pet nigroes
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>>136957494
All the arguments have been made in this thread
>>136957375
Yeah dude, If you get rid of the Niggers, spics single mothers and people making less than 50k a year and then compare that to the whole of the Republican vote....

see>>136956481
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>>136946598
These studies are as bunk as the election polling. People lie to conceal their beliefs all the time. I do. When people ask me if I'm a liberal or a conservative, I will them whatever they want to hear to disarm the situation so I can get back to my life and not have to deal with ideologues and assholes.

If conservatives are losing their jobs and being harassed by ANTIFA you better believe many highly intelligent conservatives will conceal their beliefs and tell the idiots what they want to hear. Why not? It costs nothing to lie to these morons.

I will never go on record as a conservative in a liberal city when the governments are turning a blind eye to criminal harassment of them.
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>>136948149
Radical centrism is about economics not value politics.
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>>136946598
Don't trust (((social scientists))), it's been known for a long time that they fudge data and engage in publication bias. The entire field has been taken over by commie cucks
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>>136958892
However, it has been demonstrated by real scientists that liberals most likely suffer from brain damage.
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>>136946598
Conservatives are stupid, liberals are practically nonexistent on a the political spectrum, and the "liberals" you are larping as are full on retarded.
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>>136958954
Also, funny thing, that people who are more intelligent also tend to be more racially conscious.
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>>136946598

Those are bullshit numbers amigo. No source

I too can pull numbers out of my ass
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IQ means squat. IQ tests the ability to take a test as much as it tests raw intelligence. Take an IQ test online (I believe it's called Whelsher or something like that). They tell you to take practice tests for a few months before you actually take the test. You could be a genius level person who is a plumber, but because you are not used to being in an academic environment, you don't test well.

I always test well, by the way. I took one of those online tests. The first time, I got an IQ of 117 or above and I was in the 86th percentile. The second time I took it, I got an IQ of 135 and above and I am in the 99th percentile. So much for IQ tests.
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I like contradictions.

Blacks have a full standard deviation lower IQ than whites.

White men have basically the highest IQs.

White men overwhelmingly voted republican trump.

Blacks unilaterally voted Hillary.

Yet, higher IQ people vote democrat.

Sure.....
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>>136948117

Maybe you should move to a country where the election is decided on popular votes. Not even the United Kuckdom does that.
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>>136947069

You know those are heavily German-American states?
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>>136959296

>invent metric for intelligence that uses pattern recognition as its soul contributing factor
>act surprised when people who score highly in this metric also possess other qualities that depend on pattern recognition skills, such as the ability to generalize, extrapolate and use inductive reasoning.

Big shocker.
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>>136947069
>California
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>>136946598
>liberals
>smart
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