Sorry not sorry sweeties, the age of dinosaurs is over!

>>136937261
Archive or screenshot please
https://unvis.it/recode.net/2017/8/11/16127992/google-engineer-memo-research-science-women-biology-tech-james-damore

So it's a classic battle of the experts.
Well done, Norway bro

>>136937261
It does if you ask Google

Google 9 years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUMqArkEuW0
The biological differences between a male brain and a female brain is like a light house, and our culture has to adjust to it like a ship. The light house isn't moving anytime soon, and we WILL crash into it if we don't change our course. Many of the very common miscommunications and difficulties between men and women come down to these basic differences between male and female brains.

Google 6 years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-A8GvUehq4
We know that male and female brains behave very differently, and that in terms of our very base sexual instincts, women are programmed to care about status. Also traps aren't gay.

Google today: http://fortune.com/2017/08/09/google-diversity-memo-wojcicki/
“No, it’s not true.”

>>136937603

that guy needs to go if he's still at google.

>>136937261
James: There are differences in the distribution between groups with more men that are interested and gifted in STEM-fields.
Article: James claims women are incapable of learning anything regarding STEM. These experts confirm that statement is false.

*Slow clap*
Why not say "Here is some shit we made up about the memo, these experts confirm that our idiotic interpretation doesn't match science"

>>136937261
>it's not about biology
>>136938009

Why do they keep lying like this? I mean really. Do they WANT to redpill everyone indirectly?

>>136937751
What guy? These are two male guest lecturers and the female CEO of YouTube.

>>136937283
Keep it up

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>>136937283

>>136937261
>https://www.recode.net/2017/8/11/16127992/google-engineer-memo-research-science-women-biology-tech-james-damore
WRITTEN BY JEWS AKA FAKE NEWS

>>136937261
anxiety gap?

>>136937261
Counterpoint: four scientists say that the science DOES support the memo

https://archive.is/z6xxP

>>136937429
But remember bigots, the science is settled :^)

>>136938132
They know their audience does not care and will not fact check, so they just shove whatever they want down their throats.

>>136938009
Not everyone who smokes gets cancer therefore smoking doesn't cause lung cancer.

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modern women get so cuntfused about this memo it's hilarious

>>136938290
the idea that women are more emotional than men. it's been debunked by them, apparently

>>136937283
>It's nordbot skips archive.is episode
http://archive.is/4jLBW

>>136937603
But science has EVOLVED goyim. We now know that gender is a spectrum that is also a social construct that also exists on a case-by-case basis.

>>136937261
>The science doesn't support the google memo.
Didn't the memo actually link to research papers?
http://archive.is/z6xxP
The ones in this article all agree he has the science right for the most part.

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>>136938290

Suppose that these two curves (frequently called "bell curves", but are technically known as normal distributions) represent the distributions among men and women regarding emotional stability (i.e. neuroticism, or likelyhood to be anxious). As you can see, they are not the same. The female curve is shifted to the right, meaning that women on average are more anxious than men. If you look at the peaks of these curves, that's where averages are. The difference on the x-axis between these two points can be thought of as "the anxiety gap". There is however significant overlap. So men and women are more alike than they are different. But they are different, which does explain why there isn't a 1:1 representation of women in certain fields vs the total population. In fields which require high stress tolerance, for example.

>>136938954
Dude, didn't you read the fucking (((memo)))?
There isn't such a graph in the fucking (((memo))).

>>136937261
>Scientifics saying memo is wrong mentioned in the article:
Diane Halpern, Lise Eliot, Rebecca Jordan-Young and Janet Hyde

So, /pol/, do you notice a patern?

>>136939252

Yes, there was a graph very much like that one in the memo. It seems you found the one the (((journalists))) redacted, excising the charts and links to the research.

Find the unedited memo or watch his interview w/ Peterson. The graphs are shown and discussed.

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>>136937283

>>136937261
Not an argument

Google memo never said directly that biological differences made females inferior. Just another click bait article and OP is a shill

Sage

>>136938132
>Why do they keep lying like this?

The truth is frightening.

The anxiety gap is created by their fucking affirmative action. There is anxiety because those employees know in their hearts they are a diversity hire.

>>136939466
K-kikes?

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>>136937261
Remember, these guys got their bogus shit published in peer reviews scientific journals.

>>136940673
Imagine the fear of an affirmative action heart surgeon

Currently at uni doing comp sci. Made friends with a grill. Gril is 10x smarter than I am, she tries really hard and it shows.

Recently we had group projects, I was put with 3 guys
she was put with 1 guy and 2 girls

She now hates other girls in this field because of how useless these two were.

My team got badass scores 'cos one guy was really determined.

>>136940977
Can you give me a quick rundown on those guys?

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>OP
1PBTID
sage

>>136937261
(((We)))

>diversity is really important because different groups think different and bring different talents to the table
>men and women are exactly the same in terms of how they think and if you suggest otherwise you are a bigot
THEN WHY THE FUCK WOULD DIVERSITY MATTER YOU STUPID FUCKS?!?! If men and women are exactly the same then a team of all men, a team of all women, and a team that's 50/50 would all be expected to do exactly the same on a task, meaning diversity is a pointless endeavor for any company.

These stupid fucks can't even keep their arguments straight.

>>136941767
I sense they don't care about logical or moral consistency, except white people are evil, down with the patriarchy

>(((studied)))

>>136942064
>down with the patriarchy
>defend Islam at every opportunity
The only thing they are consistent is their hate for white people.

>>136938373
Scientists have confirmed the existence of smokers without cancer. The claim is false. ;)

>>136938290
They will not be satisfies until men are as neurotic and irrational as women. They will also settle for men just being payed less and suffering.

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>(((Google memo)))

>>136939739
That's why I said (((memo))), you numbnuts.

>We have been researching issues of gender and STEM for more than 25 years, and we can say flatly that there is no evidence that women's biology makes them INCAPABLE of performing at the highest levels in any STEM fields.

I read up to here. The whole piece is a strawman, he never argued in his memo that women were incapable. Try harder sweetie.

>>136942294
>Paid less, suffering
And still do 90% of the work. And carry my equipment and gear

>spelling mistake in the first sentence
well done ladies, well done

>>136943297
wat

>>136942686
Women can perform at stem fields such as biology and front end development since those are the easiest ones, but if you look at fields such as math and physics you notice that only few women actually perform at an equal level to men. So you can say that women are incapable of performing at the highest levels in STEM fields

>>136943297
Then-than good eye. It's only because their spell checker was created by a man

>>136937261
>Barnett is a senior scientist at the Women’s Studies Research Center at Brandeis University

>>136939924
This.

The guy was a touch autistic and made a couple dumb statements but almost all of that memo was solid. It was also trying to explain why women aren't occupying those roles. Not why they shouldn't occupy those roles. Plus that article is full of weasel words and studies. No sex differences in male and female brains... Of children. Well no shit. It's a good thing puberty doesn't change your brain or anything.

This article boils down to let's cherry pick the weakest study, make it greyer and then misinterpret all of his arguments and report on it like he was advocating for female genocide.

>>136940729
Women

>Vox media said it
>I believe it
>That settles it
god I wish I was a liberal

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>>136944078
>Related image

>>136943821
That may be, but he never implied that in his memo. I mean the guy was as conservative as you can get from a silicon valley cucklifornian, so obviously the piece was pretty mainstream.

>>136938132
YES YES; THIS IS MY BEAUTIFUL PLAN; KEEP ON WORKING MY FRIENDS

>>136944111
kek

>>136938317
You mean the Science™ is settled.

>>136937283
Ty

>>136943535
they used then instead of than

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>>136937261
STOP BEING DIFFERENT! I WILL REMOVE YOU FROM MY SEARCH RESULTS!

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>anxiety gap

Jesus christ how many "gaps" are they going to come up with?

>>136944748
Depends on the amount of assholes in the company.

>>136937261
Darling take care easy

>They add, “Neuroscientists have found few sex differences in children’s brains beyond the larger volume of boys’ brains and the earlier completion of girls’ brain growth, neither of which is known to relate to learning.

What sort of "neuroscientist" doesn't know that neuroplasticity is essential to learning and the fact that male brains continue to develop after female brains lose their neuroplasticity is a good thing for learning, allowing the brains to continue to absorb and reshape itself like a sponge.

This article is full of stupid. Not only are they repetitively misconstruing the words of the memo and "debunking" their own shitty interpretations, but their "debunking" isn't even good in itself with gems like the above littered throughout.

How shitty could a publication be to allow this kind of shit to be published?

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>>136939836
>Women only get elevated on the basis of performance.

My fucking sides. I'm beginning to think these people are writing from the bizarro alternate dimension where Hillary won and Trump got gulag'ed for mean tweets. These people are so delusional that it actually hurts to read their bullshit.

>>136938009

its a great example of a pilpul argument using a strawman.

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>>136944748

>>136938484
It is a fact that they have more intense emotional responses.

Claiming they should be advantaged because of this is throwing meritocracy in the trash

>>136938600
Prove it, then.

Except it's impossible because gender is a made up definition used to define behaviours that are correlated heavily with sex

>>136941268
Sure...they run the planet.

>>136938600
X and Y chromosome. There are 2 genders only, get over it.

>>136938371
They're scraping their foreheads against the ground praying we act like good goyim with no critical thinking. =)

>>136945297
By "neither of which is known," they mean known to the article author. Everyone else knows. Some people choose to be retarded

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>>136938371
They do fact check with Snopes.

>women cry equality and demand pay raises
>women don't want to date men who are less successful than them
The West is doomed lol. I spend most of my life bitching about Russia and searching for ways to immigrate to Europe or the US, but /pol/ taught me to be grateful and patriotic.

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>>136941268
Quick Rundown
>Rothchilds bow to the Bogdanoffs.
>in contact with aliens
>rumored to have psychic abilities
>control France with an iron fist
>own castles and banks all over the world
>will bank roll the first cities on Mars (Bogdangrad will be first city)
>Own pretty much every DNA facility on the planet
>Don't use telephones, don't use words...use mind

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>>136945502
>Mineshaft Gap
>referring to a plan to build an underground civilization to continue humanity where there's 10 men for every woman

Is Dr. Strangelove the source for the feminist "gap" meme?

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>>136937261
First google result. I kekd.

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>>136945452
I was watching a TVO documentary a few nights ago regarding the female "struggle" in the workplace across the world.

I shit you not, the speech at the conclusion of the documentary by a prominent black feminist that's supposed to be the emotional send-off for the audience, went something like this:

>women still have to prove themselves constantly
>women still have to work hard in order to be respected in the workplace and be trusted
>we have so much more work to do ahead of us because women are still considered super and inexperienced in a job unless they work hard and prove themselves
>we have to push to make a change so that women can be equally respected in the workplace

And on and on.

I could not believe my ears and almost broke down in laughter.

Women actually think working hard and proving yourself in a job IS NOT the norm and they think they should AUTOMATICALLY be respected and they could slack off and not have to prove themselves. Women TRULY believe this! They truly believe they should be considered smart and capable without having to prove it. They truly believe this is just their own unique experience and that men don't have to go through this either.

>>136944748
Least we know Google Gals don't have to worry about thigh gaps.

the most hilarious thing about this is that anyone who has worked at google or in tech KNOWS that women are absolutely incapable of this work.

they are pushed through the hiring system and given cushy jobs which 90% of the time are basically filler work which could be done in 2 days by a competent man. but it's not too important so fuck it, lets give it to the "diversity" team.

they will work on it for a couple months, spending 40% of their time blogging about being STRONK WIMMEN in tech and being paraded around by management as shining examples that WIMMIN can do anything.

meanwhile, all the real engineers are shaking their heads and keeping their mouths shut, just trying to work and knowing that they will get fired if they say anything.

eventually, the project will get done. Then it will go to a man who will "review" their work. he will completely re-write it so that its actually functional. in a day, he will do all the work that the womens team was pretending to do for 2 months. then the management will hold a press conference about all the IMPORTNAT work that women are doing here at google. there will be 5 blog posts about how this insignificant project was done by women.

anyone who has worked in tech can tell you that this is how it happens.

>>136946075
>women are still considered super and inexperienced

Meant to write "stupid" not "super"

>>136937261
Maternity leave
Can't lift same wieght
Muh pay gap

Bitches are useless. Someone post the army bitch falling down webm. I believe in equality, no mayo on my sandwich sweetie.

>>136941268
Not sure what was the exact story, but they spoofed their study, and it still got published because of the lack of proper peer preview. There was a complete, but private inquiry into it by some French academic organization, but findings are held secret and were only made available to those immediately involved. Some Françanon can tell you probably more.

>>136942320
He's a circle for sure

I feel like this is the biggest gas lighting operation in history.

Even babies instinctively know the difference between male and female.

>>136945297
You need to ditch the Fark mindset that they are incompetent. They are not. They know exactly what they are doing.

>>136937261
So at what point do we realize that the opposition isn't arguing in good faith? There's no point in trying to "prove them wrong" when they'll just pretend you said something else. At what point do we consider alternative strategies?

>>136946244
I work in tech. Can confirm.

Don't forget the waste of time "social events" that they keep organizing around you and taking away meeting room availabilities while also distracting workers

>we need more diversity because men and women are different and have different ways of thinking and looking at the world, getting both leads to the best results for our company
>wtf how dare you suggest men and women have different ways of thinking and looking at the world, get out of our company

>>136946361
No I know they are actively trying to sabotage society. I'm just trying to use words that redpill normies. Saying "they are actively trying to genocide us" only works on people like me who listen to Alex Jones all the time and are ok with getting blasted by harsh truths 24/7.

>>136946393
Can also confirm. Don't like male only offices, but women should never touch code or design anything. Just let them do marketing or whatever they are comfortable with.

>>136937261

Letting omega fags and women do hard science was a mistake.

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>>136946015
Noice one anon

"Rosalind Barnett is a Senior Scientist at the Women's Studies Research Center"

Person who wrote the article.

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>>136937261
>A Google engineer who was fired for posting an online claim that women's biology makes them less able then men to work in technology jobs has charged that he is being smeared and is a victim of political correctness.
>then

THEY FUCKED UP THE FIRST SENTENCE

>>136946569

As expected. Redundant people doing redundant things to reinforce redundant narratives. See my comment above >>136946555

>>136946564
I really hate these stock photos that basically make all the fields be flooded by women and incompetent minorities. They are so fake and disgusting.

>>136942686
This is what is really disturbing. The guy never says that imdividual women or women as a group are unable to handle stem jobs. He makes the arguement that women as a group are not as interested in jobs that are "thing" centered. This observation is borne out in the data. The more free women are to choose the less likely they are to go into a stem field. Of course, group behaviors cannot be applied at the individual level because rarely does an individual carry every characteristic of their group.

The entire msm has been strawmanning him and his memo without ever scrutinizing his position or even linking to his full memo so the lemmings who watch the msm could read it for thmeselves.

In the end, he simply wants google to treat applicants as individuals not as members of a group that need to be advantaged or disadvantaged.

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>>136937261

Check out the bitch that came up with the bullshit..

>>136946528
This is a contradiction that needs to be exploited more thoroughly. If everyone is equal, how is diversity a meaningful concept?

>>136946244
With good hiring practices, that's not always the case. Many can be equally as competent as their male coworkers who also don't do it in their spare time.

But yes, there are still a fair number who avoid practical work at all costs while rubbing the fact that they're female in everyone's faces.

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>>136946630
Let's not forget the fact that it's a disgusting sentence full of words and absolutely no flow. These faggits only know how to write simple sentences and then replace their words with the biggest synonym they could find trough a right click.

They know nothing about proper language or wit.

all dinosaur bones are fake, the shit in museums is all fake plaster from china. don't be fooled anymore.

>>136946569
I'm an attack helicopter genders specialist. AMA

>>136945452
>Syria and Lybya is competence in action

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>>136946244

I worked in tech for 12 years and can confirm that this is exactly how it is.

t. Worked for the second largest ISP in Norway who hires nothing but "diverse" employees.

>>136946244

Years later Jewllywood will make a movie about these diversity hires and how the project never wouild have succeeded without their hard work. Maybe they can call it "Hidden Figures" or something lille that. What ever would we have done without these three Black women?

>>136937261
"For example:

>Over the past two decades, men in the U.S. are spending doing more and more time on housework and childcare on both workdays and weekends. Indeed, their time spent on such tasks is close to that spent by their wives, according to the National Study of the Changing Workforce.
>The psychological well-being of employed married fathers is as closely linked to their family as to their employee roles, according to a study directed by Dr. Barnett.
>Today, companies are offering more and more paternity leave, because male employees are clamoring for it. Generous leave policies are seen a recruitment tool, as companies are in an arms race with competitors to attract millennials and retain their best talent.
>In 2016, Mark Zuckerberg, CEO of Facebook, caused banner headlines when his daughter was born and he took a two-month paternity leave. He set an example for his employees and those of other companies.
"

>Science
>Talking about how gud is zuckemnberg

ahahahahahahah
AHAHAHAHAHAH
HAhahaahahahahaHAHahah

>>136937261
I ducked up I should have totally asked that girl out would have been the OPPOSITE of my sister not embracing her which would piss me off. Ducked up again mine as well get duck hunter out and start shooting myself on tv

>>136937283
you're...you're human??

>>136937261
>Rosalind Barnett is a Senior Scientist at the Women's Studies Research Center

AHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>scientist
>women studies
ahahAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

>>136947204

nice

>>136937261
If they have been studying it for 25 years how come they are still a minority in stem fields then you stupid faggot.

>>136937261
Its transphobic to say there is no sex difference in brains

>>136937261
>sexism is reals
>it's not about gender
pick one

>>136944748
Every noun and verb except the thigh

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>>136937261
>no comments section
Bullshit with no way to call them out on it. Into the trash it goes.

>>136947420
Holy shit. How did I not think of that before. They are literally saying that there are 0 differences meaning that trans people can't exist. Can we push this and get SJWs to shame them for being transphobic?

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>>136937261
No, how about a real article with actual psychologists. http://quillette.com/2017/08/07/google-memo-four-scientists-respond/

Pic related is all you need to know to automatically throw the OP article in the trash.
>professor of Journalism
>women's studies research center scientist

>>136948087
They'll make up some insane bullshit about how biological sex is completely separate to the 43 different genders or some shit like that. These are the same people who will tell you that Islam is feminist and it's best to avoid engaging them altogether.

>>136938371
Cultural Marxism

>>136948087
you really think that contradictions in their arguments will open their eyes?

clearly you have not yet learned the power of doublethink

>>136947043
worked for an ISP for a year after I left university, and I still work in tech. good luck, norway

>>136937261
Why is it so difficult for people to accept that women just aren't as interested in tech as men are. Why is that such a taboo thing.

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>>136944516
*sigh* yep

>>136945452
>tfw there exists a universe where hillary won and after conquering the world in nuclear blitzkrieg she devoted the entire worlds resources to overthrowing trump in ever other universe

>>136947083
None of that contradicts male and female brains being wired differently though, smells like Chewbacca defense.

>>136937261
this article makes no fucking sense
it goes on and on about psychological differences between the sexes
it says how women face more sexism and it creates anxiety - a psychological issue
it says that men do not wish to take paternity leave because of how other people will see them - a psychological issue
and yet here they are, attacking James Damore because he had the gall to write a paper about the PSYCHOLOGICAL DIFFERENCES between the sexes
then, to wrap it all up in a neat little bow, they simultaneously claim that this has nothing AND everything to do with biology

man I have lost a lot of faith in the world over the past couple of years but this google drama has torn it for me
we deserve nukes

>>136942320
One if the tribe gets diversitied and the ((( media))) goes crazy. Pottery.
>oyvey.png

>>136948669
This. This is almost exclusively the reason for the gender disparity.

Learning programming requires nothing more than a computer with an internet connection, and the number of women who invest a significant amount of their free time in it is almost none.

>>136942320
>5'9"

woof.

>>136948669
Because men like it and focus their attention on it. If men obsessed about garbage collection women would complain they aren't adequately represented in the sanitation industry

>>136946386
For me, about two years ago.

>>136946386
It's slowly got worse and worse, but we're now at the point that anyone who thinks they can reason or compromise with these people is outright delusional.

>>136946075
They always say they have to "work harder" than men to get to where men are at, and men don't have to put in as much effort. I think this is where their stupid logic comes from, because they believe men don't do any work to be respected (they're the ones in power).

>>136937261
Read the bell curve you fuking twats. Women have been statistically proven to be less intelligent than men on average especially considering the IQ distribution amongst males in those types of professions

>>136948669
Because most of this people only have degrees in women studies. If we accept male and women are different and that's why the disparity in STEM and others, then there is no reason for quotas, which means all of them get the fucking boot.

>>136937261
>leftists anecdotally studying leftist social engineering for 25 years
everything is fine, sweetie.

>>136937261
>we spent a lot of time doing it so it's true
Michelson and Morley spent 10 years trying to find the ether, therefore it exists and everything we know about electromagnetism is wrong, bigot!

How stupid can people get?

>>136937603
delete this nao

>>136941767
It's because they think even though men and women aren't the same, there's a global conspiracy of (white) men not hiring women because they think they're inferior. So in order to combat this, we must hire more white women than men, for diversity.

It's the kind of logic you would expect from a woman

>>136937261
if you're over the age of sixteen and havnt realized yet that 90% of all women are fucking stupid and crazy as shit, than you yourself are fucking retarded

>>136946393
I work in tech, can confirm that they do not work in tech so we only assign them to phone calls so that we can work in peace.

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>>136937261
>not realizing that the skies are completely controlled by therapod dinosaurs and that the Australian military lost a war against therapod dinosaurs in the Australian Outback.

>>136937261
You see what the SJW's have done?

They've shifted the argument and twisted what the googler said.

Now they are roping you guys into an argument about whether or not women can excel in the highest levels of STEM.

Demore wasn't arguing about this. He was arguing about Population level differences and innate preferences - and how taking some of that into account could improve the situation for women in the company and in general.

Seeing the responses here, it seems /pol/ doesn't stand a chance against these SJWs. You've been tricked into debating which sex is better. They have you wrapped around their finger.

>>136937261

>(((Rosalind Chait Barnett)))

What a cohencidence.