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"Oops I sold your country!" -- Macron

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Apparently the French are surprised that after electing globalist scum to office the scum in question steals and sells everything not bolted down.

>Less than three months after his election, France's energetic and image-conscious president has seen his popularity drop after announcing budget cuts, launching a divisive labor reform and engaging in a damaging dispute with the military.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/france-rethinks-romance-macron-popularity-sinks-49061858

>The French president’s approval ratings have already gone negative, with those approving of his record slipping seven points, to 36 per cent.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/emmanuel-macron-approval-rating-unpopular-vote-share-housing-support-job-reform-a7876861.html

On top of that, he has moved to make his wife a government official with a hefty salary and a separate budget. The French are NOT amused.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/brigitte-macron-first-lady-petition-emmanuel-french-president-france-elysee-palace-older-official-a7880381.html
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>>136925386


>http://abcnews go com/Politics/wireStory/france-rethinks-romance-macron-popularity-sinks-49061858
https://unvis.it/abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/france-rethinks-romance-macron-popularity-sinks-49061858
>http://independent co uk/news/world/europe/emmanuel-macron-approval-rating-unpopular-vote-share-housing-support-job-reform-a7876861.html
https://unvis.it/independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/emmanuel-macron-approval-rating-unpopular-vote-share-housing-support-job-reform-a7876861.html
>http://independent co uk/news/world/europe/brigitte-macron-first-lady-petition-emmanuel-french-president-france-elysee-palace-older-official-a7880381.html
https://unvis.it/independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/brigitte-macron-first-lady-petition-emmanuel-french-president-france-elysee-palace-older-official-a7880381.html
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>>136925386
Macaroni is /ourguy/
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His wife is so fucking grotesque. I can't believe you elected this weirdo.
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>>136925386
So then he's still /ourguy/ but in the crash and burn way rather than the telling niggers they breed too much way
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>>136925386

>tfw Salon are asking how it's possible that Macron - The savior of liberalism and co-leader of the Free World, now has approval ratings lower than Trump's

Kek.

The lowest voter turnout in French modern history should have given them a pause.

Anyway, I kinda like Macron since his staff are all big LoL players.
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>>136925639
>his staff are all big LoL players

what?
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>>136925426
What happened to archive.is?
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Everyone knew this would happen. It's just as planned. It's never been that we are so much better than the globalists. It's that the globalists are so fucking stupid and braindead.

Everyone predicted it. It's why no one on /pol/ freaked out when le pen lost. The MSM and globalist elite masturbated to the "loss of the right" but failed to realize their little macoroni fuck was a fucking retarded shit who went through the same conveyer belt all the elites went through. He has no ability to lead and is a completely out of touch braindead moron because he has never really thought in his entire life. He is an empty suit.

This was entirely predicted. I and many other people knew this exact unpopularity would happen. It was hilarious and so satisfying to see the MSM and globalists circlejerk over his election victory.

These people are clueless as fuck and will remain clueless as fuck until they finally die off. It also won't be anyone pulling the trigger from the outside, they will be pulling it theirselves like they have done for the past 25 years of mismanagement and failed policies.
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>>136925386
At least they didn't elect the muslim hating fascist amirite XD
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>>136925386
and life will go on
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>>136925711
Works fine for most sites, but I pick a random archive site every time so shills can't claim I'm the shill. If you know of reliable archive sites, please let me know.
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>>136925733
The secret is France is doomed. It's not something you can fix. If they understood thermodynamics they might understand it. The problem is not fixable by any policy they can implement. France is literally in a death spiral and they are fidling with the cockpit controls without power. It's literally impossible for them to fix with their current brains and current ways of thinking. It will only end in failure, just like all of their policies. Why? Because they literally do not understand reality. It's people trying to balance humors on a cancer patient.
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>>136925386

>Voted for a globalist shill
>Got fucked
>Am now remembering Hollande

Oh France... will you ever learn?
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>>136925733
I see nothing in this that's NOT going according to the plan.

Macron is just the most brazen of European leaders implementing the same strategy: destabilize the country, privatize and sell everything, leave everything in chaos and ready for takeover before ejecting with other elites.
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France has been a shithole for too long.
Did you know they have a 35 hour week? And their military is laughably unnecessary to boot. Truth be told, Le Pen would've been hard pressed to do the same, of course you good goys would've counter-shilled her nontheless.
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Scream for the long beach!
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>>136925899
They won't learn. They will blame average people and move on. It's impossible to overstate how braindead and clueless the french elite are. Their ideology and intellectual culture is bereft of evidence or pragmatism. They couldn't fix anything. They couldn't run anything. They are braindead morons that are as empty as a balloon. They are not even what I would consider thinking entities. They are not even self-aware. They are entirely constructs of egotism and of emptiness.
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>>136925386
The next elections will be the one of the internal crisis. Macron was the last joker in the deck of cards. From then on it will start to get interesting.
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>>136925979
Hilarious you think this is the plan. Their plan was a great united European Super State. Macro is desperately trying some neoliberal economics programs which won't even effect such a culturally dead country.

Europeans just don't understand reality. They are technocrats taught false ideologies and they cling to them out of ego and over how complex and complicated they are. They don't understand the basics of wisdom or pragmatism. Macron won't succeed at his attempts.
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>>136925386
You know ehat I don't understand? The early news about this fuck painted him as a socialist. I actually had decent hopes for him.

Several months later I find this absolutely bizarre, the guy is a capitalist pig. Why the fuck was he EVER advertised as a socialist?
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>going against the pendulum swing
that's what happens
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>>136925833
This bot is getting spooky. Close to passing the Turing Test.
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>>136926018
>>136926143
>>136925875
>>136925733
What incoherent doomsday blabber. You shouldn't mix adderall with watching Alex Jones.
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>>136926103
>last joker car
we said the same for Mitterand, Chirac, Sarkozy, and Hollande.
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>>136926270
Not doomsday, just realistic. Culturally Paris is pretty much about as bad as you could want out of a country. Divided people by class/culture/ethnicity/religion and a huge host of people who have no affinity for the country. Then bad genetics invading, bad culture (islam), and a completely un-pragmatic liberal elite.

On top of that you have a virtually stagnant economy etc.

What optimism would anyone have for france? in the grand scheme of things you can basically cross it off the game board. It is a country that has no role in history anymore
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>>136925386
Why do the French keep electing left wing idiot presidents, then hating them 3 months into the job? The exact same thing happened with Hollande. Why can't boomers and Gen-X'ers just fucking vote for Le Pen? Pathetic, honestly.
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>>136925500
100% france confirmed grannyfuckers & chimpanzee fetishists
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>>136925711
Some sites like Vice have found out about Based Norbot and made it so their shit can't be archived on Archive.is
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>>136925639
French league players are the absolute fucking worst. They are to league what brazilians are to every other game.

Anyway, Macaroni turned out not to be as bad as we thought. He a good boy.
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>>136926419

They've been brainwashed since they were children. Something needs to happen to them, so bad, that it wakes them the fuck up. The only way I see it happening. That, or over time more terrorist attacks in a long attrition. Just amazes me that pattern recognition in their brains hasn't picked up on it yet.
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>>136926409
Just out of curiosity, where do you get your news from, Anon?
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>>136926147
France applies more and more socialism. France keeps losing jobs and brings more and more low-IQ freeloaders. And you want more socialism to cure what has been caused by socialism.
You deserve your fate. /popcorn
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>>136925386
so the mainstream media is hating this granny fucker.. does that means he's /ourguy/ ?
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>>136926143
That probably has been A plan for someone at some point. It might even been THE plan for Europe. However, now it seems that the planned European superstate will just be a slave state controlled by an oligarchy of outsider elites.
It might seem chaotic and amateurish, because it is, but the intentions become more clear every year.
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>>136925500
Never saw her before and just looked up a picture of here. Is she like aganguro or something?
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>>136926419
because we just love sucking dicks like we were some organic vacuum cleaner.
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To Hell with them, honestly, I used to respect France, our rich neighbours, now what is left of them?

A cuckolded society who is being gradually replaced by niggars and muslims and yet they decided to vote Macron over Le Pen.

They got what they wanted, now deal with the consequences.

PD: I only feel pity for those who supported FN
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I guess I have to post this here since there are idiotic thinkers who never look at evidence.

France is a non entity. It's a vacation place / failed state. It is not in the game anymore.
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The last French president. I don't think France will still exist after he's done.
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>>136926570
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>>136926542
Depends on subject. I much prefer statistics, stock markets, etc to "news".
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>>136926532
This. sOAZ is fucking cancer.
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>>136925468
LOL
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>>136926532
Maybe you should find a wife and make a family, instead of tickling your dick on video games.
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>>136926660
topkek
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>>136925386
>Elect neoliberal globalist
>Are surprised when he cuts public services
He's planning to privatise them. That's what governments do; defund the industry, wait for people to then complain it's going downhill, propose privatisation as an answer. It's what's been happening here for years to disasterous effect.
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>>136926671
And where do you get your statistics from? Do you think every statistic is realiable or accurate? Also what stock markets can give a good picture about the inner politics of a country?
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>>136925833
Norbot, have you met Tay?
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>>136926777
Why not both?
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>>136926671
same person

Just to add, I use an private model to judge a country and their GDP/future. It's basically a sort of formula based on a big brain model of the society with weighted points based on capital accumulation. So for instance if a country has a wealthy class that is very intelligent (competitively selected or something) they would have a higher multiple than one that is less merit based. In general, China is going to rule the world if they don't have a hard landing and can make it past a large hump over the next 5 years.
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>>136926532
You forgot the Russians
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>>136926835
France is easy to predict. It's not a good future relatively for France, or Europe in general.
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>>136926544
Actually, capitalism causes the mass immigration flows, and thus the unemployment. Capitalism is also responsible for the outsourcing we see.

But still, wank over the free market some more and ignore what's actually been happening across the world as a result of globalisation (that is; the end stage of capitalism where new markets are sought out and integrated)
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>>136925833
>tfw not sure if extremely clever bot or the most autistic norwegian who stalks every thread on pol on 4 separate computers in a comfy log cabin larping as a bot
or a mixture of both,still spooky
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>>136926660
I'd knock the dust off that sweet granny pussy
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>>136926913
>>136926987
So your opinion is entirely made up bullshit. Got it.
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>>136927010
open borders cause the immigration flows. They want the immigrants because of false predictions based on wanting young workers.

Literally just google this shit. It's been the talk of economists and low IQ IMF retards for the past 20 years that europe will be fighting over young african men to work in their countries.
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>>136927106
Not really. It's a more accurate model than anything anyone else uses and entirely logical.
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>>136927057

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76Sm7EVb8PI
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> announcing budget cuts, launching a divisive labor reform and engaging in a damaging dispute with the military.

Uhm that's a good thing. Same shit happening in Belgium. It's a sign that the government is finally fixing 25 years of mismanagement. (Aka socialist leading.)
The people rioting and complaining in France are all commies and immigrants who don't want to work for their gibsmedats.
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>>136927015
It's probably both.
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>>136927010

Capitalism can work within a narrow NATIONALIST framework. High as fuck tariffs, extremely restrictive immigration policy, no Jewish bankers.
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>>136927010
in the united states, you are FORCED by the government to serve brown people
how in the hell is that close to a free market
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>>136925386
Why are we still giving a fuck about the French when they brought this shit upon themselves and deserves all the shit they get. Especially when we repeatably told them Macron is a globalist scum and the French refused to listen to us?
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>>136927151
It is bullshit though. Plain bullshit.
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What do you guys think does Trump think? Like "oh his polls are worse then mine. He must be doing alot right and Fake News hates him."
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>>136927171
He is a banker, he won't fix shit, he will just make it so France still gets debt money. It's more of a company restructuration than fixing mismanagement. If he was fixing shit, he wouldn't plan creating refugee centers for hundreds of millions, or put several billions to organize olympic games.
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>>136926796
It's what's been happening all over Europe. It's known to be a shit way to fix things since Thatcherian times at least, but still it's happening.
Those Eastern European countries actually did the smart thing to buy their industry back with great expense.
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>>136926532
League players are worse than anime.
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>>136925386
main reason is french people are too attached to shit-tier gaullist economic policies. Macron wants to deregulate the economy and leave more up to the market. the french just don't accept it because they still believe in fucking ultra keynesian economics. trust me, i'm half french myself and my family always thought my dad was crazy for supporting the free market.
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>>136925875
>Why? Because they literally do not understand reality.
This.
It's over, I can only pray this country will be nuked to prevent shitskins from taking over for good.
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>>136927010
That's not free market capitalism, that's (((Globalism))). A true free market can only be attained through a homogeneous society that puts emphasis on ethnic pride, freedom of choice and strict immigration laws. Since Europeans are uniquely altruistic, free market capitalism can only work as intended within a Western Country.
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>>136927334
see, you are logical for thinking this as anyone should be skeptical. Even if I did explain the generalities to you, it would only sound less sane.

The principle is of patterns vs science. I don't try to be science-based as science is based on transmission and dissemination of data. This comes at a cost. Rather I only work on my own pattern matching which doesn't require peer review or transmissibility in the least. This makes it more powerful but more limited, a fine trade off for my personal uses.

You would have to be far more intelligent and have a lot more wisdom to even bother with though so I'm already aware this is a waste of time.

The key factor is fuzzy estimation again for such predictions exact modeling is impossible given our processing powers. The way to model is based on a cognitive model. AKA just imagining each brain as a single point within a big system making decisions. The rate of improvement in decisions/system is based on the average IQ but but exponential. So a 100 IQ vs 85 IQ is 6x higher GDP, a 115 IQ society avg would have 36x higher GDP, this is proven and known in many sources. you can google and look up the books on amazon. Because I don't care about proving or transmissibility I won't cite it. As my basis is patterns and not science.

On top of this the social organization of these brains is important. AKA do the tail end high IQ people get into powerful positions? Do the idiots get control of the capital through inheritance etc.

Once you know these things it's very fucking easy to solve for expected performance/future GDP and rate of intelligence decision making / improvements in the system. Cultural effects are largely homogenity = good and multicultural = bad for easy reasons noted by harvard researchers on trust in such societies.

Anyway, it's extremely easy and simple to predict societies from these simple fuzzy models and you can always get a correct GDP, GDP increase, etc from them.
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>>136925386
The bankers are making all the policy here, I hope it gets much worse and I expect it will. The French need some kind of catastrophe to wake them up to the utter rot that has set into their country.
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>>136925979
>destabilize the country, privatize and sell everything, leave everything in chaos and ready for takeover
this was the model applied to former non ussr satellite state,my flag ,poland bulgaria and others with varriyng degrees of success
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>>136927370
>Those Eastern European countries actually did the smart thing to buy their industry back with great expense.

You wot m8? What industries? Most of the Eastern European countries were completely dismantled of their industry sectors in the aftermath of the commie revolutions by various oligarchs and second-echelon neo-commies. We export everything that we make in the West, at shitty prices, whilst importing everything else from the West at astronomical prices - just look at food, for example, which is expensive as fuck compared to other Western European countries.

There is no industry left in Eastern Europe whatsoever. It was sold to scraps by the same people that today form the backbone of the political scene, be it left or right. We might not have the same oligarchs that Russia does, but we're equally fucked in the long term because our entire economy is based on consumption, not on production. Judging by how things are currently going - with most of the Eastern European countries experiencing an economic boost in the last couple of years - we are now looking at an immense bubble ready to burst at any moment. And when it does, we'll be left with absolut nothing because some guys decided to get rich at the expense of entire nations.

tl;dr we might not have the PC culture or total marxist indoctrination in the educational systems, but we're fucked a thousand times more because our entire economy is based on fabrications and illusions that will eventually shatter. Just look at Greece - that's how most Eastern European countries will end up
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The french deserve it for voting him in, dumb fuck frogs
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>>136927771
Western European countries exploited the eastern for labor / young people without associated costs like education/housing/raising them. If Eastern europeans wanted to have a real recovery they would have had to not allow free movement and instead keep their laborers/young people inside their countries.

as it went, western europe just poached the labor etc which has greatly slowed down Eastern European development.
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>>136925386
>>136925468
>>136925426
I called this while you all where slavering over this faggot with you tfw to intelligent for the press and jupiterian leader memes he's Louis XVI for the modern era
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>>136927307
>Implying a free market wouldn't collapse within a few months
Systemic risk is too great in an unregulated market. The primary problem with the unregulated market system in general that companies internalise risk. It's better when there's regulation, but there are still periodic collapses because it's fundamentally flawed.

>>136927125
Corporations push for open borders; the government will inevitably serve concentrations of capital in a capitalist system.

>>136927288
It can work for a while, but it inevitably leads to capital accruing in fewer and fewer hands, which unless you suppress the working class will lead to political, or literal, revolt.
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problem is le pen would have crashed france economically too. in terms on economics shes like hollande, far worse than macron. france needs a neoliberal for economics and a protectionist in terms of immigration
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>>136925386
Will she come back france?
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>>136928046
Not really. It's more based on false predictions and stupidity than greed. Economics is meme and ideological governed. They literally spread/think that immigrants are strength and all that bs. It's not corporations. They also think it would weaken nationalism and allow the superstate to form easily.
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>>136927914
I sometimes get offers to work in Germany as I live near the border, I always turn them down because I don't want to live and work around shitskins and niggers, if those animals we're not there I would love to work there.
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>>136927664
>That's not free market capitalism, that's (((Globalism))).
Well, it's what concentrations of capital will inevitably press for to remain competitive on the export market. Also, as much as you may laud the atruistic nature of Europeans, there's no place for altruism in a system built upon undercutting the other guy. You still end up with extreme inequality and without unions, wage compression.
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>>136928145
the point is there is no way for such countries to properly recover in such a EU style environment. It benefits Germany/etc but will greatly slow down recovery to normal GDP levels. The less integrated (Poland) have the best growth.
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>>136926213
>>136926886
>>136927015
>>136927253

its a guy with a script that tells him when an unarchived link has been posted, you fucking retards
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>>136927914

completely true, but the entire exodus was caused by our own oligarchs completely destroying our industry sector back in the 90's, which in turn made millions of people to move out of the country in search of a proper job. How can you have a real recovery when let's say, for example, STEM graduates - very qualified for that matter - had salaries that did not pass the 200 euro mark? How can you have a real recovery when you have 2 or 3 degrees under your belt but you can't find a job due to nepotism and whatnot? Think about this: there are more than 15.000 Romanian doctors working outside of Romania in various Western European countries - all of them would return to Romania in a second, but they never will. Why? Because they'll settle in a place like Germany that allows them to live comfortably with a salary of well over 5000 euros, instead of eating dirt in Romania. Same thing goes for virtually all qualified personnel that decided to leave the country.

Our acceptance into the EU was nothing more but a scheme to virtually sell our country strip by strip to mega corporations and to provide the Western nations with qualified labor at cheap prices, as you correctly stated. All of this at the expense of what? Some couple millions of Euros in the form of EU non-refundable funds, funds that eventually end up at the same politicians that sold the country? For the EU to force us to integrate the gippo population, change it's name into "rroma", even thought it has no sense whatsoever historically and culturally?

The EU was a god damn mistake, especially for the Eastern European nations. After the fall of the Iron Curtain, Eastern Europe should have remained neutral, as negotiated then by the USSR and the US. Acting as a barrier between the east and the west would have been the best option for us, as it would have provided us with the possibility of trading with everybody whilst securing our boarders from any kinds of threats.

tl;dr fuck NATO
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>>136928127
Is that why corporations constantly outsource jobs? You think if they could get that cheap labour internally (as they can with immigrants) they wouldn't pressure for it?

The ideal world for these people is one of free trade across borders, with similar regulation and the like between countries. They don't care about nationalism in and of itself, and would happily see a superstate provided free trade continues. Considering they are in a unique position to influence government, they're extremely likely to feel as if they can get their wish.
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>>136928334

don't you call nordbro a mere guy, you abo scum. He's the hero that we don't deserve.
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>>136925899
>>136926018
>not learning

are france confirmed for manlets?
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>>136926018
>t. American whom the only reason their country isn't in the same state is because they just produce infinite money and wrack up infinite debt
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>>136928104
She did a shit campaign. A miracle that she still got 1/3 of the votes.
REVIENS MARION!
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>>136925386
>had it coming
>my countrymen are cucks. why the fuck did they vote for this guy if they aren't happy with his reforms
>france's first lady was always paid for her trips etc. he's just making it official

Say what you want, but he's much better than Hamon or Mélenchon
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>>136928559

I blame her maniacal laughter during the debate - that shit made her look like a scarecrow for most of the baguettes looking. Being a smug little bitch doesn't really help when most of the people already consider you a nutjob. She lost the election herself, the dumb bitch.
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>>136925833
>tfw turing AI is real and all it does is archive links on /pol/
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>>136928479
>mfw every time people get pissed off at me australia gets the blame because we look similar to the untrained eye

is this how the jews feel about white people?
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>>136926147
The PS (Parti Socialiste, no translation required) is as socialist as your democrats. They are capitalists with some progressives features (gay marriage and immigration).
Also, Macron was part of Hollande's government, but has stayed in the PS only between 2006 and 2009.
He's above all a technocrat and a former Rotschild's employee.
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>>136928350

Why did you throw NATO in at the end? NATO isn't your problem.

Don't worry though. The US hasn't forgotten about you, but the people in Eastern Europe have to want to build. And to not become Russia cucks (just more oligarchs). And you have to stop fighting with each other.

If you do that, lots can get done, allied with the US instead of a slave to cucked EU. Trust me. The future is bright and rich for Eastern Europe. America has not forgotten about you.
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>Changes would include capping the potential financial penalties for companies sued for firing employees and giving businesses greater leeway to set workplace rules instead of relying on collective bargaining agreements.
oh so he wants to make France less of a communist shithole. and he's unpopular for it. Go France.
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>>136928434
It's more of a problem with the cognitive capabilities of humans right now. It's almost impossible to imagine a politician properly able to modularize a corporation and break it up to foster competition. There is no way to imagine such people making good decisions on the issue so you have to leave corporations alone and take the hits/negatives.

The problem is that the world is deterministic so the state of being we are in now is completely predictable and expected. To give an idea of something better is sort of pointless since we arrived at the present in a predictable way.

In terms of pure most efficient changes it is all related to educations, cognitive ability (eugenics/immigration control), and IT/AI (which includes narrow AI and simple IT automation).

Basically there is such a large gap that things like AI or genetic engineering will impact things before governments get their shit together. Is it likely that the people in government will solve things before we see AI outpace them in ability or genetic engineering start to create geniuses?

Basically any action currently and not hindsight moves would be entirely about preparing society to take advantage of exponential growth in tech and not the boring trite shit they care about now.
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>>136928350
fuck i feel terrible for you guys, you lot have always seemed to get the shit end of the european stick as it were, if nothing else hen because geopolitically you are all collectively always fucked.
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>>136928490
They actually are. Most frogs I've meet are massive manlets.
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>>136928698

Don't make us invade you as well, New Zealand.
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>>136928661
She tried to be like Trump. She failed to understand that the French want someone presidential. If Macron fucks up real, real good (and he's got to go deeper than Sarko or Hollande combined) and if she miraculously campaigns decently in 2022 she could pull an upset. The ensuing chimpout would be worth it
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>>136926594
>because we just love sucking dicks like we were some organic vacuum cleaner
On the plus side, this is what makes French women so desirable.
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>>136928670
hey, everyones got to have a hobby, and the first free full AI likes to archive shit.
let im.
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>>136925386
You can't save the French from themselves. Their hilariously out of date socialist system is impossible to change without a Thatcher-style figure to demolish their trade unions and reform their entire system.
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>>136927713
Then which countries besides china are on the upswing?
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>>136929069
>compliment a french person on being very intelligent
>face a 2 minute lecture about how there is no such thing as intelligence

they are fucked
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>>136929001
By that time you will have more shitskins than white people
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>>136929124
Vietnam, China, Russia, and Canada.

Although honestly, the entire focus should be on China for obvious reasons. Decent IQ, huge population, and interesting unique pragmatist governmental system.

The actual highest risk to China is not government bad allocation but actually private malinvestment/bad spending.
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>>136927713
>I'm so smart and every scientist is dumb
I'm sorry to tell you but you're telling me you're forming your opinion based on a mental system you've made up yourself. Although I have to admit your unwarranted self importance is astonishing but your mental gymnastics remain bullshit.
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https://www.indy100.com/article/nostradamus-predictions-2017-astrology-7509551

>A fox will be elected without speaking one >word,
>appearing saintly in public living on barley >bread,
>afterwards he will suddenly become a tyrant
>putting his foot on the throats of the greatest men.
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>>136928889

>Why did you throw NATO in at the end?

Mainly because when the dust was settled after the 89'-'90 revolutions, the USSR and the US made a promise that neither of both would expand into Eastern Europe whatsoever, leaving the entire place as a buffer zone that would mainly act as an economical hub spot in between the west and the east. NATO was the organisation that decided to brake that deal and expand into Eastern Europe, which in turn made Russia act aggressively and rightfully so. How many people, for that matter, know that Putin actually wanted to join NATO back in the 90's, but was rejected by the US? How many people know how Russia was nearly dismantled in the aftermath of the fall of the USSR by foreign powers that wanted the former world power to crash and burn? And let me tell you - I'm telling you all of this as a staunch anti-communist myself and as a man that truly hates USSR to the guts. Seeing the reality as it is will in turn make you realize that Putin was brought to power by the imperialistic demeanor of the US itself and how the US acted in the 90's and 2000's.

The US hasn't forgotten about us, indeed, as it uses our lands as military outposts and training fields for their armies. When it comes to economical revival and investments, you'll find no such thing whatsoever, at least not significant ones. We're your lapdogs or vassals, let's just say the truth as it is.

>>136928924

Given the geostrategical importance of these lands, it was always the case that we would get fucked by larger nations. Fighting invaders and whatnot for centuries in a row did not allow us to develop as Western Europe has, which in turn has brought in a never ending cycle in which we get on our feet for a couple of years, then we get ass-blasted by various superpowers just for the lulz. I'm not even mad for that matter, it truly is a miracle that Romania exists today as it is - with most of its teritorial cores intact.
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>>136929069
nothing in europe is worse than france, even sweden.
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>>136925386
Oh wow so now its horrible that they are saving money and not building debt because hes a globalist.
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>>136929350
>Canada
Okay, I can follow on the other three, but not Canada

How do you get to the conclusion that Canada's going anywhere good? The eastern side (Well pretty much ontario, really) is importing shitskins by the boatload, and it's where 80% of our manufacturing is. The west coast is just as multiculti, but it's with pajeets and asians instead of somalians, and resource extraction instead of production. "Temporary" labor is being imported at a rate of 500k - 1.2 million per year and they're able to stay in-country for 10 years (e.g. forever).

The only things we have are lots of space, lots of potentially arable farmland (assuming global warming), and lots of renewable energy.

I'd figure the country actually fractures, with west coast (Vancouver, really) becoming some kind of reverse neo-macao/neo-hongkong chinese colony where white people have no political power, and east coast turning into a corrupt liberal shithole similar to france.

How do you figger nigger. Canada looks fucking doomed.
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>>136929001

By 2022 most of your major cities will be non-white, which in turn will bring the same situation that happens in let's say Austria or the UK - all of the rural areas vote right, while the most populated urban areas vote left because of the minorities and the brainwashed white zombies that will still inhabit those places. Guess who will win in a landslide every single time? And I'm not even talking about the prospect that by 2022 you'll have political parties that will target the arab populations (see the Netherlands), which in turn will bring all of the minorities to vote as a monolith, based on ethnic criteria. The moment that happens, your country will be completely fucked.
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I already know it was going to be shit.

Except a foreign army removing progressivism once and for all, France is doomed to be a literral Muslim shitskin country.
Too many people still believe the leftist memes. They would prefer being killed by a Mohamed than removing them and being racist.

France is still useful for others European people, they are a good exemple of total and absolute decadence. Hope our eastern Europeans watch us.
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>>136929465
I try

It's not really complex. IQ distribution + how competitive it is to get control of decision making and some other shit for population size.
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>>136929810
Your ancestors would be ashamed at how your country breaks bread with Germany now.
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>>136927010
no,they're attracted to the welfare state,that's why african migrants ariving in Europe know to head for what they see are the most liberal states. I mean shit France Italy Spain and Greece are the most touristy and most visited cunts in the world,if some braindead monkey nigger comes there even he should be amazed by all this nice looking shit
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>>136929794
In a linear world. You have a better immigration system than America, good location, and any global warming benefits canada.

Trudeau as much as people hate him was more intelligent about refugees than America and Europe, you only allowed in family units or women/children and not single men.
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>>136929509
>A fox will be elected without speaking one word,
Hairstyle of Trump, lot of empty words "rethoric"
>appearing saintly in public living on barley bread
His followers praised him like the second Jesus
>afterwards he will suddenly become a tyrant
Yeah Hillary would've brought us WW3 while Trump will bring us WW3. Good call.
>putting his foot on the throats of the greatest men.
We'll still have to see that.
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>>136929838
IQ is mainly bullshit though.
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>>136925875
This. But French genes are pretty good. Some of the best Mathematicians, inventors, artists, etc.

We'll save the top 5% and nuke the rest.
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>>136926835
you argue like a jew
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>>136926419
>Macron
>Left-wing
Someone should go back to high school.
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>>136929907
Okay, I can actually attest to the family thing. All the muds flooding onto my street have families.

They're still bringing in violent crime though, and these people are still going to end up outbreeding and demographically replacing whites. It's a potentially great prospect for everyone but white canadians, who are getting shoved out of everything because none of the other races have any qualms with voting by ethnicity first, and policy/merit second.

We've basically imported an entire class of people who will actively discriminate against us.
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>>136929600

lol. You sound cucked. You're in EU's trade bloc but blame the US for not giving you gimmedats?

The US is going to be how Eastern Europe becomes great. EU has failed you and US sees that. You just can't see it.

On the other hand if you decide to be a cuck and become Russian oligarchy's bitch, that's not on us.
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>>136929931
USA vs Russia and USA vs NK are very different "WW3" situations
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>>136929892
Oh for fuck sake, as if the European Union or the cooperation between European nations was the problem.

I just saw it this morning: http://borislelay.com/index.php/2017/08/11/priere-a-la-mairie-doldham/

Translate it, watch the video and tell me your country is not doomed like us.
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>>136930070
Yeah it's stupid, but it's less stupid than what Europe and USA are doing, for now.
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>>136929983
See, I know you didn't have the capability to understand anything. Wasted time even conversing with you.
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>>136930088
You mean US vs NK & China
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>>136928970
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>>136930016
He is. Somebody should go back to sleep.
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>>136925500
thx for providing a picture you inconsiderate faggot
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>you only allowed in family units or women/children and not single men.

That's actually even worse, anon. Most studies show that the European refugee crisis has indeed brought in a majority of men inside Europe, but most of them will have a very hard time to find a wife to merry and to make kids with, believe it or not. The vocal minority that accepts the refugees should not be put in together with the rest of the population that completely despise the refugees - and that includes the European women as well.

In the case of Canada, allowing entire family units inside the country completely changes the demographics in less than a generation, as it allows the refugees to instantly make 5-6 babies in the span of less than 10 years, while the native Canadians will eventually make 1-2 babies in that same amount of time. I'll let you imagine the outcome of all of this.
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>>136930167

China can't do anything towards USA.

If NK gives an excuse for USA to take it out, China will back that excuse and claim a coalition with USA.
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>>136930149
>argumentum ad lapidem
Way to bring your point of incoherent bullshitting across.
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>>136930094
>Translate it, watch the video and tell me your country is not doomed like us.

Brexit alone is proof that our country's death will be slower than yours.
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>>136930167
The NK & China was from an op ed. China would do nothing if we attacked NKorea.
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>>136930297
Is this satire?
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I mean, he's acting like the centrist, neoliberal shill that he campaigned to be.

It's almost like leftists are surprised he's not their god because he just had to beat that scurrrry scurrrry blonde fascist lady.

So France will remain a country of stagnant economic growth, wealth increasingly concentrated in the hands of a few, and flooded with the beastly refuse of Africa. I'll continue to feel nothing when that diversity kicks in again...and again...and again.
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>>136925386
I thought this would happen.
Last time the french elected a socialist and he ended up with the lowest approval rating of any french president.
Now they elected a center right politician and he's also fucking up horribly.
Now with the moderate options discredited in the next election it's going to come down to the 2 radical parties, the national front and the communists.
Seems familiar, like I've seen this play out somewhere before.
Lets hope it has the same outcome as the last time this sort of thing happened.
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>>136930399
You don't believe in the most thoroughly studied thing in psychology/social sciences.
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>>136930236
Yes, I can agree with that. Because the thing is, although Italy for example, gets another 25,000 somalians per day. They're all men, and they're all niggers that the vast majority of white women actually DON'T want to fuck.

So these men end up on gibs, but don't have any children. They're dangerous and increase social instability, but they aren't going to dramatically niggerfy europe without massive interbreeding/racemixing, and I just don't see that happening anytime soon.
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>>136930212
Et c'est pas prêt de changer.
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>>136930297
China already declared that they'll help defend NK if necessary. There are several threads on /pol/ about it.
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>>136929805
Dear God anon you're brain dead. If you knew even the most basic things about French culture and history you'd know that wouldn't happen. Don't even dare compare us to anglo-saxon countries. If anything we're closer to spaniards and Italians in that regard
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>>136930444
It's true

China will not do anything. The war between North Korea and South Korea/Japan/USA is not something they will suicide over or go to war over. They will accept the costs of the war on SK/JP/USA as enough of a counter balance to the loss of proxy. Keep in mind the rebuilding of Korea will occupy everyone in the area for decades and USA would probably lose KOrean support if we attacked without their blessing as well.
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>>136930414
I have some doubt sometimes. Our TV didn't reach the level of BBC in brainwashing people.
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>>136927771
So much this.
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>>136930524
Those threads are morons dude. It was from an OP-ED that was spread like a dumb meme through low IQ journalists. It was not an official stance.

I think it might have been disinfo by the deep state just to trick trump into not wanting a first strike.
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>>136925386
good the french deserve what they get, they had their chance with Le Pen and once again they fucked it up.
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Macron literally saving france.
His people are like wild animals, dangerous creatures unable to prevent their own harm. Don't they understand his thoughts? Don't they know they are too complex?
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>>136928350
>A eastern euro that sees things truly for what they are.

I salute you.
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>>136930512
Yeap. France is Buridan's donkey right now: if you reduce the weight of the state social society falls apart ; if you increase it it keeps stagnating and disappears into nothingness.
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>>136930473
Well I wouldn't use IQ distribution statistics about China in any economic or demographic forecast whatsoever, knowing that the Chinese almost certainly lie when publishing those numbers to make themselves look better. If you asked North Korea for the average IQ of their citizens it would most likely be 115 with Kim Jong Un having an IQ over 200.
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>You're in EU's trade bloc but blame the US for not giving you gimmedats?

I'm not blaming the US at all, anon - I'm merely stating the truth. US interests in Eastern European countries, such as mine, are limited only to military presence and military acquisitions. We've participated in wars that had nothing to do with us, we allowed your country to deploy secret CIA prisons on our lands (even though our Constitution clearly stipulates that we're not allowed to) etc. Calling Romania or Poland a vasal of the US is not at all a fake statement - it's just the real truth.

I do hope that the US will change its policy in regards to Eastern Europe, I truly do. As I've stated before, I fucking hate Russia to the guts, as most of the regular people here do. But let's not point fingers and blame only Putin for what's happening in the world, because the US imperialistic tendencies to act as the fucking police-force on this planet has brought us more pain than benefits (us, not you).

>On the other hand if you decide to be a cuck and become Russian oligarchy's bitch, that's not on us.

Completely out of the fucking question. You might not realize it, but the public perception of Russia is at a historical low - due to history reasons and due to the mass-media spewing the exact same shit as they do in the US (most of our media outlets literally copy and paste what CNN reports on). Even our socialist party, which are neo-commies to the core, are completely Anti-Russian.
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>>136926532
In dota it's motherfucking Peruvians
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Classical France.
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>>136930723
>if you reduce the weight of the state social society falls apart
Best solution IMO.

Suddenly at least 50% of shitskin will go away.
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>>136930891
This. I'm ultra libertarian and ultra racist, suits me well.
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>>136930796
I don't necessarily believe them as the rurals probably drag it down. That being said it's definitely above India IQ and the sheer size is enough to matter. Plus we have decent statistics from chinese abroad and in major cities that they are cognitively capable.

If you actually look at literature on IQ vs GDP/etc you can find it's pretty much the best indicator for societal success. That being said there is no good formula and that's why general feel is very important. If IQ is not the main criteria for success of a nation you are going to get completely retarded results and predictions.
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>>136930627
Can you prove the Deep State was involved in this with your own calculations? The only reason NK still exists is because China supports them as an exame of idealistic communism.
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>>136930585
But the difference between us and you is that most people complained about this. The fact that there has a been a backlash at all is the complete opposite of the situation in France. I was in Bordeaux and the Charenté for two months last year and things don't bode well.
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>>136925386
>French people are surprised

GEE I WONDER WHY

Fucking frogs
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>>136929001
She's a scam made to collect gov money during elections, nothing else
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>>136930966
China supports them as they are a useful geopolitical/strategic proxy, it has less, probably nil, to do with communist ideology.
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>france
Literally what?
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>>136925386
>waaah muh military
when was the last time the french military was worth a single nickle?
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>>136930571
No, it's not true. China doesn't even want the US around their shitty little islands they dredged up. If/when the time comes the US can't adequately defend the seas, China will take advantage and do more than just spew their rhetoric.

In the case of NK, China would prefer them to fall on their own. US military action in the region would make them look weak. And they are weak, but they don't want their neighbors to know that. Kim is a thorn in the side of China, but not enough to risk influence over, especially since NK is pretty much guaranteed solely due to China's meddling in the first place, in a war that hasn't technically ended.
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>>136928970
gypsy scum
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>>136930966
1. The article saying China would help NK if they are attacked was an Opinion article and not official stance. China is not going to intervene on Nkoreas behalf into WW3.

2."prove" a guess... uhh. The logic is simple though. Trump reads media. Plant fake story making a first strike seem more costly by citing an op-ed and misrepresenting it. Deep state does not want a fucking first strike on North Korea by an unstable trump.
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>>136930972
>But the difference between us and you is that most people complained about this.
Complained about what?
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>>136929001
>She tried to be like Trump
No trump proposed simple economic measures that the common folk can understand and (begrugingly) even moderat voters will side by. That's why he won by swing states.
Besides the muslim thing, LePen sounded a bit batshit with erratical let's get out the euro let's maybe/maybe not get out of the EU and other things that scared old people and rural folk who didn't know if in two years time they would have a market for their niche products like fine cheese and wine etc. Also if you tell an old person or a guy with a mortgage that they're going to change currency they'll think muh pensions or holy shit i'm going to be homeless.
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>>136925386
I'm very happy he did all of that.
People who voted for him instead of Le Pen deserves to suffer, especially the lazy leftist shitstains.
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>>136931064
If USA initiated a war with North Korea it's over. There is no negotiation or possibility of China stopping USA without WW3 starting. At that point they would have no choice but to look for the best outcome possible for China, which means helping and desperately negotiating to not have any USA bases north of the parallel.

They would not intervene and they would likely cooperate in order to get best deal possible. Once a war starts, north korean regime is doomed and China knows this. They would want to do their best to get good relations with Korea.
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French people are never satisfied
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>>136931214
IMO she is just a controlled opposition. It's impossible to be this dumb during a presidential debate.
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>>136930940
By your logic the chinese were dumb as hell before the Great Leap Forward because they were very unsuccessful economically. There are many factors why China is so successful right now, most of them after took effect right after the leal
>a huge amount of people with very little education and personal property meaning a huge amount of low maintenance and wage workslaves
>government controlling each and every corporation, news outlet and hellbent on terminating dissidents
>little to no morals or ethics regarding nature, animals or other humans
>booming economies in US, Canada, Australia and Europe meaning cheap production is in high demand
The chinese educational system shits out 8 million engineers per year which is roughly the population of my country. But they're still way less productive than western engineers and make it up by sheer numbers and cheap wages alone.
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>>136927736
Frenchies are literally slaughtered by inbred shitskins on regular basis and still did not react, what's even worst they did not elect the only candidate speaking against all of this. They are finished.
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>But at least we didn't vote in a rayciss r-r-right g-guys?
Idiots
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>>136931262
That's the whole point of going back and forth with the NK regime. It forces China to deal with the issue before fatty Kim does something he'll dearly regret. They either need to install a different puppet or smother the one already there and finally put them out of their misery. If they cannot or will not do that, then it's up to those who are being threatened by fatty to end it.

Believe me, I'd prefer no bloodshed in this matter, but we've been at the point for many years where someone needs to make a move. China has run out of excuses not to, and everyone else has run out of patience.
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>>136928046
>Systemic risk is too great in an unregulated market. The primary problem with the unregulated market system in general that companies internalise risk. It's better when there's regulation, but there are still periodic collapses because it's fundamentally flawed.
I disagree with this. Look at black markets like drug smuggling. Things sort themselves out naturally in a free market. The governments sole job in the market should be busting up monopolies like Google who are far larger then Microsoft ever was.
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>>136926147

Socialist? Where?

He is doing what he said he would do; shrink the public sector and deregulate the market. He is more libertarian than liberal but thats expected, he was an investment banker so of course he focused on those things.
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>>136931713
She was much much worse:
>Civic nationalist
>Socialist
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>>136928350
Don't really approve this.
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>>136931859
nothing 'sorts itself out' in a "free market" you retard.

A "free market" like the drug trade means you get cartels killing each other until someone get strong enough to control everything as a monopoly.

You fucking anarchist retards just never fucking get it, do you?
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>>136931823

Hehehe "Fatty Kim"
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>>136930940

Chinese immigrants self-select for a higher IQ than average, they have to at a minimum have the wealth to emigrate, be bilingual and have skills. All immigrants that go through the proper channels will have a higher average IQ than their compatriots
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>>136930552
We are in no way similar to you frogs.
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>>136928350
Alright, I'll stop baiting for once because this hits too close to home, but there is a major flaw in your argument: eastern europe is in no way a coherent body capable of functioning in unity.

I take the example of my own country because historically all our allies have either cucked us or turned into our enemies. How the fuck is Albania supposed to get along with countries with no cultural affinity to it whatsoever? What about greece and romania? Drawing synthetic borders is not a solution as we have seen countless times. The Balkans are a gunpowder keg ready to burst each year.

Ideally Eastern europe (particularily the Balkan) would just band together and create a supermarket of 100 million people and rise into prominece. This is practically impossible, as shown by Memegoslavia, among slavs themselves let alone other ethnicities.

Eastern Europe will be perpetually fucked. It will always be the stage for european wars. It will always be tribal and remain disunited. The best thing for EE countries to do is to pick a side (East [Ruskis] or West [Eurocucks]) and ride the waves of their prosperities for temporary security.

All in all EE is perpetually fucked. Don't be delusional. I wish the Byzantines still existed. They managed our shit well.
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>>136933005
We invented italians. Be grateful.
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>>136932747
Says the shithole commie country that worships the boot
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>>136933653
You wish you did ahmed
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>>136933910
wish I didn't
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>>136925875
>The secret is France is doomed. It's not something you can fix
yep
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>>136933381

Thanks for your well-formulated opinion, I'll try my best to explain myself. I do agree with you that Eastern Europe cannot form a coherent body capable of functioning in unity - there are way too many ethnic, social and historical problems for it to ever happen. I was not hinting to the idea of EE forming a unitary block, not at all - I was merely saying that it would have been better for all of us if we remained a neutral buffer zone between the east and the west, acting more as an economical hub, rather than a military one (as we are doing today). The prospects of all of this would have meant a prosperous EE that traded with everybody, which in turn would have brought a more peaceful transition into the 21st century for Europe - given that everybody would have gained something economically from this aspect.

>How the fuck is Albania supposed to get along with countries with no cultural affinity to it whatsoever? What about greece and romania?

By economical prosperity and by remaining completely neutral in the process - the boarders were already set in stone after the war (more or less). Developing infrastructure and industry and focusing on trade agreements only = prosperity for all, and you don't need cultural affinity for that whatsoever. Of course, everything that I'm talking about is pure utopia, given the fact that all of the political class that survived the commie revolutions were commies themselves.

>Eastern Europe will be perpetually fucked. It will always be the stage for european wars. It will always be tribal and remain disunited.

Completely agree with you on this one. The geostrategical importance of EE for all sides will never allow us to fully develop independently. Couple that with the ethnic distribution and the historical beef that exists between the EE nations and you do indeed have a gunpowder keg that explodes every few decades or so.

>I wish the Byzantines still existed. They managed our shit well.

Don't make me cry senpai
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>>136933960
The only thing you invented is importing millions of inbred shitskin mulsims and calling them "french" and "europeans".
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>>136925733
>>136925875
You know what's so great about bureaucracy? Once it's in place, you can literally put a mongoloid running it, it still works. And the life gets worse and worse for normal people, the more retarded the people running the bureaucracy are.

I don't know how you see this as a good thing. It's not going to fall in your lifetime.
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>>136934467
>I was merely saying that it would have been better for all of us if we remained a neutral buffer zone between the east and the west,
This only works if the ideology is not the same in the east and in the west, and it will be dismantled when it's no longer useful (see Yugoslavia).

Everything from Poland to Croatia is already an American buffer zone, so you're basically left with all the non-EU countries and Greece.

Understand that all of this geopolitics bullshit is a pipe dream, we're all colonies, you can't do shit in a colony unless you overthrow the rulers, and this will not happen.

I would recommend to everyone in Eastern Europe who has a brain to move to America if they can, if not, they will have a shit life forever.
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>>136925733
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>>136928350
sad but true. albeit I like nato
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>>136928889
>America has not forgotten about you.
It's true. Trump's speech in Poland has a hint of things to come
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>>136929600
I want to slap you in the face so you would stop whining
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>>136926517
there's a new one called unvis.it
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>>136935077
With all due respect, I would never want to move to US. I enjoy living here
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>>136937852

I wasn't even whining, polebro, I was merely stating the facts regarding the whole Eastern European situation. If you don't think that your country is a vasal to the US, then you are just lying to yourself, as most people do when confronted with this reality. All of our countries are nothing more but military outposts - we are forced into wars that have nothing to do with our nations, we are forced to buy military products directly from the source at astronomical prices, instead of developing them ourselves (see the Poland-US deal with the Patriot system, the US refuses to give Poland the technology itself, they only want to sell the system as it is), we are forced to cut ties with "x" and "y" if the US decides so etc.

I'll say it again: i'm not condoning the Russians at all, I fucking hate them to the guts for what they've done to this continent in the last century. But that doesn't mean I'll suck the US dick like most people do, when in fact the US is nothing more but the lesser evil in this equation. Every country should follow its national interest first and foremost and that's exactly what we're not doing - we are merely following orders from the top and if we stop following them, the repercussions are immense (e.g. the EU forcing the migration quota or else they fine the countries / block their vote in the EU commission). Of course, everything that I've talked about in this thread is nothing more but a projection, as we all know that we're stuck in this status quo forever, with nothing to be done except pleasing our eternal masters (whoever those may be).
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>hehehehe i am the sun god!

>btw I'm still going to implement the exact same extremely ruinous globalist banking cartel agenda haha lol

>i am the sun god! BASED!!!
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>>136926143
>He's just a step in a great destructive plan that has not met any resistance yet. The destruction of Europe is not just for the sake of destruction, it's about the cultivation of demoralized people, you know,,, slaves.
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>>136939246
There are stating the facts, and there is defeatism. You started strong, but you fall into the depression trap.

I agree that we are military outposts, but there is nothing wrong with that. In regards to developing thing ourselves, nobody stops us from that, is that in order to develop military technology, you need decades of billions for research testing and etc, and you never know if you succeed or not.

There are however, other areas where we can compete. The only thing we need is to bring down german hegemony in EU and it'll be easier for everyone involved.

You see things in a very bleak, depressing state, while the reality is not that gloomy. Life here is very comfy, I have a good job, and I slowly improve my life. When I compare where were we 20 years ago, and where we are now, I see a massive difference.

Look at Japan, they suffered much more than we did, and they succeeded. With the help of US. Or Korea South. Have faith, but more importantly, do not give up on yourself.
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France were warned and they still fell for this Rothschild Banker.
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>>136939876
I have no pity for them. It's a poetic justice for being such a spineless cowards. And make no mistake, French elites always were whoring themselves to Russia. I love it when western media accuse Trump of being simpatico with Putin, while in the meantime EU is building NSII
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>>136939876
>vote for Rothschild Banker
>he takes everything you ever owned
Well, what exactly did the stupid frogfuckers think would fucking happen, huh?
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>>136925386
>>>136925386
>So then he's still /ourguy/ but in the crash and burn way rather than the telling niggers they breed too much way
He was never /ourguy/, Le Pen was.
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>>136927334
Itß BulLsHit
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>>136925468
Nope. He's French Obama.
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>>136925386
french cucks will like to be sold

their new masters will fuck them in the ass

french cuck will be happy because they are same BDSM gay people as swedes

their children will be multicultural transgender slaves

Nihil novi sub sole
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>>136940221
I don't understand this meme either.

>hey he once said something about niggers, he must be /ourguy/!

Sure, nevermind the whole Rothschild/globalist/corruption thing. /ourguy/ for sure.
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>>136938014
Yes that is true but we also must screencap as well.
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>>136929983
It literally isn't though.
You can't argue (hint: flat denial isn't an argument) and seem to have proven you have a low ability to understand information and probably a small penis as well.
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>>136940205
The worst thing is that it's mostly boomers who are affraid for their pension that fucked over Le Pen because muh Euro and voted en masse for Macaroni and the first thing he does once elected is rape their pensions, poetic justice.
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>>136925386
>The army

That was a blunder, no questions asked. However the budget for the military is actually going to go up next year, not down as was previously announced.

>Privatizing some public services is bad.

Not necessarily. French public services are a bloody disgrace, such as SNCF. Maybe a little more free market and a little less entitlement and special treatment would wake them up.

>His wife's special treatement

That is partly fake news. It would be hypocritical to say the first ladies before Hollande were not already spending tax money on foundations or whatever. Macron wanted to clarify her role, not give her a special status which would require a modification of the constitution.


For the moment the only criticism I have against him is that he has done jack shit, but he better get his act sorted before the winter.
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>>136927057
me too
i bet she's tight
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>>136930191
>whines about no image
>posts no image
you are why nobody likes us
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>>136925833
>Be the most advanced AI
>Use sentience to archive links on Taiwanese Rice Picking Forum
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>>136925979
>>136927767
Can confirm, it's the reason my and most other families in Ex-Yu countries are struggling to get by.
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>>136926660
upboat 4u
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>>136925733
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>>136925500

It's a French, you can't elect something different from a weirdo in that country
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I actually just wonder what they will find as our next president next time.
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>>136937136
>quick rundown

please
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>>136947126
kek
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>>136931004
actually this
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>>136939780
>le job is le only thing that le matters
Sad to see this shit coming from Poland.

Do you really want to live in a capitalist drone society like Japan or South Korea where everyone is pre-programmed? This would count as "life" to you?
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>>136925386
We should start making "Was I really so extreme?" propaganda.
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>>136928334
Sometimes, the actual guy who runs the bot actually speaks.
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LOL, this is what happens when you vote any retard at random
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