/nsg/ 卐 - National Socialism General

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卐 - EXPOSING THE CULTURAL MARXIST AGENDA
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>The Frankfurt School of Social Research and the Pathologization of Gentile Group Allegiances
http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/chap5.pdf
>Cultural Marxism
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism
>Cultural Marxism: The Corruption of America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIdBuK7_g3M
>Erich Fromm, Judaism and the Frankfurt School
http://pages.gseis.ucla.edu/faculty/kellner/Illumina%20Folder/kell24.htm
>Frankfurt School
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School
>Frankfurt School of Social Research
http://jettandjahn.com/2010/10/frankfurt-school-of-social-research/
>The Frankfurt School & Cultural Marxism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghx3d1GiAc0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkcy7256tBM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG6TcYfpQOg
>The History of Political Correctness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acjIw7cVc2k
>How a Handfull of Marxist Jews Turned Western and U.S. Culture Upside Down
http://davidduke.com/how-a-handfull-of-marxist-jews-turned-western-and-us-culture-upside-down/
>The Jewish Frankfurt School and the End of Western Civilization
http://www.dailystormer.com/the-jewish-frankfurt-school-and-the-end-of-western-civilization/
>The New Dark Age: The Frankfurt School and "Political Correctness"
http://www.schillerinstitute.org/fid_91-96/921_frankfurt.html
>Who Stole Our Culture?
http://www.wnd.com/2007/05/41737/
>The Frankfurt School and Its Legacy
http://www.morveninstituteoffreedom.com/FrankfurtSchool.pdf
>Critical Theory (Cultural Marxism) and Jewish Thought
http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/theology/events/2013/critical-theory-and-jewish-thought.aspx
>Fallen Jews, Critical Theory, and Cultural Marxism
https://originsofleftism.wordpress.com/2015/01/16/notes-fallen-jews-critical-theory-and-cultural-marxism/
>Bill Whittle on the Narrative: Political Correctness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrt6msZmU7Y

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卐 - Jews in High Places
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>200 Years together by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
https://my.mixtape.moe/adkmzj.pdf
https://ia902308.us.archive.org/23/items/GruesomeHarvest/FH.pdf
>Germany Must Perish by Kaufman
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/File:Germany_Must_Perish.pdf
>The Soul of a Jew and the Soul of a Non-Jew
http://www.hakirah.org/Vol%2016%20Balk.pdf
>Rome and Jerusalem by Moses Hess
https://archive.org/details/romeandjerusale02waxmgoog
>The Jewish Century by Yuri Slezkine
https://www.docdroid.net/kXW5Tab/yuri-slezkine-the-jewish-centurybookzzorg.pdf.html
>You Gentiles by Maurice Samuels
https://archive.org/details/YouGentiles_414
>Steinlight: 'The Jewish Stake in America's Changing Democracy'
http://cis.org/articles/2001/back1301.html
https://archive.is/2najE
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https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-hollywood/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-big-media/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-senate/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-economy/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-congress/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-goldman-sachs/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-ivy-league/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-news-part-1/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-news-part-2/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-think-tanks/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-supreme-court/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-wall-street-part-1/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-wall-street-part-2/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-state-department/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-treasury-department/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-american-international-group/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-federal-reserve-system-part-1/
https://thezog.wordpress.com/who-controls-the-federal-reserve-system-part-2/

>>136917610
Can someone get me in on the meme? How the fuck is natsoc any better than communism?

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>>136917794
>How the fuck is natsoc any better than communism?
Everything communism was, Natsoc was the opposite. You dot he math.

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*Blocks your path*

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>>136917794
Lurk moar newfag

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>>136917794
It has nothing to do with marxism.

>>136917933
That sure convinced me, retard. Can you at least give me something to work with?

>>136917794
Hang around, read stuff, it was entirely opposed to communism in every form.

>>136918173
Why do you think it's even similar to communism? Everyone addressing that would probably be more helpful to you

>>136918173
>has all the wealth of information posted in the OP
>still asks stupid questions
Maybe if you came off as less of a newfag and more of an objective knowledge seeker, you might go further

Your question reeks of below basic understanding of political ideology and history: we can't spoonfeed you answers here; you would never accept it

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Reminder that National Socialism and the Blood-Soil Pagan ideology is inseparable.

So in our ethnostate will we have massive white immigration

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>>136918173
Lurk the pastebin. Its has enough source material for you to write a doctoral thesis in answer to your question.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-economic-history/article/div-classtitlethe-role-of-private-property-in-the-nazi-economy-the-case-of-industrydiv/5853885D956348A13B5CEFDC42313E2B

>Against the Mainstream: Nazi privatization in 1930's Germany (Germa Bel)
http://www.ub.edu/graap/EHR.pdf
http://voxeu.org/article/macroeconomics-germany-forgotten-lesson-hjalmar-schacht
https://youtu.be/pKnFN8P21-0

Some more obvious differences:
>Natsoc made christianity the offical state religion, Communism made atheism the official state religion
>Natsoc was pro-capitalism (anti-usury, anti-wall-street-style capitalism), Communism was "state socialism"
>Natsoc protected the right and importance of private property, Communism outlawed private property
>Natsoc allowed people to leave if they didn't like it, Communism kept them prisoner like slaves
>Natsoc was racial and ethnic nationalist, wanted to remove jews and degenerates; Communism made racism punishable by death and was anti-nationalist (rpo-internationalist)
>Natsoc believed nature creates inequality, and inequality is just; Communism believes that equality must be enforced, no matter how many die in the process
>Natsoc believes in male and female roles, communism believes men and women are interchangeable and identical

>>136918424
go easy on him, this is all very strange stuff to the unaccustomed.
>>136918173
He is right though, you will sort of need to go through things and learn it from scratch

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>>136917794
Addendum: communism advocates fighting within the nation, it throws the "proletariat" against the "bourgeois", it tells that poor that they must hate and resent the rich. It's yet another trick to throw the people against itself - that alone sets it infinitely apart from National Socialism.

>>136918438
Hear, hear.

>>136917794
That's like asking how whites are any better than niggers.

>>136918173
But, to put you on the right path

Hitler was staunchly opposed to Marxism and any ideology that was based around Marx's teachings (Communism). National Socialism was and is the belief in the Natural Order of the world, the acceptance of inherent differences between the sexes and races, and proposing a system of extreme Nationalism that would be best suited and prepared to setup a government to serve the people, rather than the other way around

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>>136918601
>Natsoc was created to destroy communism
This, in a nutshell.

>>136918578
I understand, that's why I tossed him a bone >>136918665
He seems to be of the rare summerfag variety where they might actually be open to learning something rather than spamming shitposts and generally ruining the quality of the boards 24/7

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One more bump before I go to sleep.

SIEG

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>>136918912
HEIL

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>>136918912
heil

>>136918807
I totally get it, I've been mostly avoiding this place for the summer

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>>136918912
HEIL

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>>136918438
They are one and the same. The ancient germanic prince is the predecessor of the fuhrer. National socialism is folkish government.

The only real difference is that war and technology have changed.

People need massive redpills on how noble their ancestors were.

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Also
AESTHETICS posting

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>>136918995
I told myself I was going to stay away and was good for the better part of 4 months but I had to see it all for myself

I should have just stayed away lol

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Is there any hope for a fourth Reich?

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>>136919160
Soon now.

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>>136919160

>>136919160
Certainly more than there was even 2 years ago. Things are shifting politically, and while they're slow, you can expect something to happen in your lifetime. Not saying that something is the fourth reich, but major political shake ups seem to be right around the corner.

>>136919160
Yeah, maybe not in our lifetimes, but lets make sure that it happens in the lifetimes of our descendants

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Mobile Nazi on standby.

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>>136919038
>berlin '88

>>136919160
It's happening sooner or later. Nationalists are looking to take charge, people are getting tired of abuse by globalists. It's a small step for those nationalists to institute programs to ensure the health and safety of their people in a way that is in accord with their nature and presto.

>major aesthetics inbound
wouldn't mind having this retro'd like all those funny fashwave pics
>not one fuck given, sword and thunderbolts because this is prussia gone mother-fucking super saiyan

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>>136919160
As long as hearts beat with Aryan blood.

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You faggots actually think NK is the enemy, them in the media keep telling you they are the enemy.

SK is corrupt, an SJW paradise like no other. And now you will die for them yet again only not in the middle east so they can have more power by having the North and South.

WAKE THE FUCK UP! We should be liberating SK from SJW rule not dying so those same SJW's can take over the north and spread farther into asia

>>136919436
Do you know what thread you're in freindo?

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>>136919160
Possibly
Many White Nationalist oldfags like Jared Taylor said he's seen more progress for the cause of White Identity in the last 2-3 years than he has seen in the last 30 years

All that means is that White Nationalist sentiment is on the rise and we can only be hopeful for the future. We have a shot, so from here on, we must fight

Jared's latest speech
It's a great white-pill, listened to the whole thing
https://youtu.be/5ZzP2Hp_B-Q

>>136919436
Or we could just nuke all the gooks, retard.

>>136919237
wow yes, the EU are the nazis. that's the hottest of takes

>>136917610
>Socialism
kys faggot

Does anyone here believe in aryanism?

Seems like a huge road block that puts many white ethnicities at odds with the movement.

>>136919436
Kim is a fat ricenigger, but if he nukes California then we get to nuke them back, say we miscalculated and accidentally nuked Seoul instead of Pongyang.

You'd be killing two birds with one stone :^)

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>>136919596
It's really not, you don't have to believe in it to be NS

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>>136919515
>Jared Taylor
So bluepilled on the JQ that Jews defend his right to free speech. I'm pretty sure he's actually a Zionist, that's how pro-kike he is.

https://youtu.be/-oRCh_9ybmc
https://youtu.be/c8wzGsLtdc4

>>136919418
did he really say that? i've been on brainyquote.com and i've never found that quote

>>136918665
I thought natsoc was much less free lel. I promise I ask this with the utmost unbiasness but, exactly, why would it be justifiable to round up a group of people and exterminate them? Doesn't it follow the same road of logic as the 'white genocide' you guys are so up against?

I know you guys spout muh six gorillion, and I do question the holocaust a lot, but then that begs the question, exactly what *did* Hitler do with the Jews?

>>136919623
>>136919520
>>136919505
dont kill your allies, you have enemies telling you what to think you cant stop. Worry about them because them will be the downfall of you if you stand divided Mr.United States. xDDD

>>136919720
I said in the last thread that he was weak on the JQ; I just thought his speech was pretty spot on as far as White/European Nationalism goes
He's definitely a good introductory red-pill than most Alt-Lite or Civic Nationalist cucks

>>136919834
>why would it be justifiable to round up a group of people and exterminate them
When did that happen?
>what *did* Hitler do with the Jews?
What jews? The ones that mass migrated or the ones that died of typhus?

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>>136919596
Many people have the propaganda Hollywood version of Aryanism, and don't understand a single true thing about it. Of course its a roadblock. Everything about being white/Europid/Aryan is, because the entire global propaganda apparatus makes sure of it. Good book in the pol books archive called "Race in the Third Reich". Most of "Aryanism" outside the estoric stuff is just basic biological anthropology and archaeology.

>>136919806
Come to think of it, he might not have. Another anon was doubting that quote last week, but i didnt get to go look into it.

>>136919840
This is not a Nork vs US thread, go tell people in /ptg/ about this, we don't really care.

>>136919840
Commies aren't our allies, retard. Kill yourself.

>>136919927
>This is not a Nork vs US thread, go tell people in /ptg/ about this, we don't really care.
Ill let you get back to your petty fighting race war antics divided by them which is just what they want.

>>136918424
>implying i didn't see the huge shitton of info

A better way to phrase my question: where do I start on natsoc, straight and simple? I don't want to watch a 2 hour documentary of the jews taking over.

>>136919596
>aryanism
This whole thing is basically how Hitler realised that blonde hair and blue eyes are the rarest traits.
He came up with this "aryanism" so these rare genes wouldn't go extinct.

>>136919914
I go back and forth between wanting to think of people who are clearly wrong -- even promoting bluepills like "the jews look white to me" and "anyone who is anti-semitic is just jealous of jewish superiority" -- as useful introductory material. I've seen so many people latch onto complete bullshit in their early redpilling process, then they're kind of ruined forever after that. idk, i think a lot of these people "poison pill" people as they offer redpills. More like purple pills that might bluepill or redpill in the end.

>>136920011
how about you go start a thread on your shit and stop posting off topic

>>136920059
>is the same Polish jew from the last thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOI0cVs6rm0

>>136920148
Oh look.
He's too retarded to read my whole post.

>>136919920
Mass migrated.

So is everything written on the holocaust fake? I mean did he just deport them and then the kykes just started blaming the typhus deaths on Lil Hit?

>>136920016
Just hang around then, pick up stuff from what people are talking about. To really understand what NatSoc (and whether you agree with it) is will take a bit of reading, especially since you've been conditioned against it.

>>136920226
>He's too high IQ to read my tl;dr.
FTFY. No one cares Moishe, fuck off.

>>136920236
>So is everything written on the holocaust fake?
Beyond a shadow of a doubt. The only realities of it is that there were concentration camps and jews were sent there and some died.
>I mean did he just deport them
He didn't managed to deport most of them. Most of them just ran off to other countries on their own.
>the kykes just started blaming the typhus deaths on Lil Hit?
Essentially yes.

>>136919834
Hitler wanted them out of Europe, he didn't want them dead. The holocaust was a plan devised by Heinrich Himmler and purposefully hidden from him by Himmler.

No documents found at all about hitler knowing
http://www.fpp.co.uk/Auschwitz/docs/controversies/Reward.html

If Hitler knew about the holocaust why did he want the final solution postponed till after the war?
http://www.fpp.co.uk/Himmler/Schlegelberger/DocItself0342.html

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>>136920236
>So is everything written on the holocaust fake?
Quite a bit of it, yes.

https://youtu.be/zeqsiR4HVCA

>>136917794
Natsoc is just what Bernie Sanders would do if he was a white nationalist.

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>>136920236
No matter what happened, we aren't exactly beholden to Hitler here. That's what a lot of people miss.

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here is an interesting video of teens reacting to hitler speeches. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l41KoElGBPU

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>>136920390
>Bernie Sanders would nationalize all industries
>Natsoc would privatize them all
Lurk moar.

>>136920290
Oh I see.
You are just a low IQ skinhead that hates every one slavic.

>>136919834
Every "death camp" that was investigated turned out to be merely concentration camps which goes against many "first-hand" accounts given by the Jews that were in them. Auschwitz had a pool, nursing staff, and even a dental office.

Typhus was a major epidemic in those days; it was a terrible disease that would spread through dead bodies and also through fleas. Many Jews died in the concentration camps because of it and also because of starvation thanks to the Allied bombings of German supply routes to the camps. To combat this, Germans cremated the dead bodies to dispose of the disease and used a compound named Zyklon B in moderate amounts in gas houses to delouse clothing of fleas and pests that would otherwise transmit the diseases. They had to use it in moderate amounts because the doors to the gas houses were wooden and unsealed and any amount toxic enough to gas a human would essentially gas the entire compound

Hitler wanted to migrate the Jews the fuck out of Germany and generally out of every country they were leeching off of. There were talks of them being shipped off to Madagascar after the war but that obviously never came to fruition. If Hitler would have planned a true mass genocide, they would have been smart enough to come up with a better more efficient system than what they actually implemented, leading people to question the highly suspect narrative of "Death Camps"

>>136919834
>>136920362
Also, read Hitler's War by David Irving
http://www.fpp.co.uk/books/Hitler/2001/HW_Web_dl.pdf

Watch the video below https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArNyyHXe3b8

>>136920236
A good way to think about things is this-
Imagine the Untied States was losing WW2, and Japan/Germany invaded the mainland. We had rounded up our Japanese population and put them into camps. In the strains of war, Japanese in these camps would have likely died, and that's perfect atrocity propaganda for the Japanese/maybe German government.

>>136920466
the slavs are cool. idk what hitler thought about the slavs, but it must have been bretty gud

>>136920458
>The Nazi social welfare provisions included old age insurance, rent supplements, unemployment and disability benefits, old-age homes, interest-free loans for married couples, along with healthcare insurance, which was not decreed mandatory until 1941[36] One of the NSV branches, the Office of Institutional and Special Welfare, was responsible “for travellers’ aid at railway stations; relief for ex-convicts; ‘support’ for re-migrants from abroad; assistance for the physically disabled, hard-of-hearing, deaf, mute, and blind; relief for the elderly, homeless and alcoholics; and the fight against illicit drugs and epidemics.”[37] The Office of Youth Relief, which had 30,000 branches offices by 1941, took the job of supervising “social workers, corrective training, mediation assistance,” and dealing with judicial authorities to prevent juvenile delinquency.[38]

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>>136920466
What part of "tl;dr" was too complicated for you, kurwa?
>hates everyone slavic
Half my family is slavic, Moishe. Stop deflecting.

>>136920390
No, but anything bernie sanders wants done can't be done without white people

>>136920691
>The Great Depression had spurred state ownership in most Western capitalist countries. This also took place in Germany in the years prior to the Nazi political takeover. During the 12 years of the Third Reich, government ownership expanded greatly into formerly private sectors of strategic industries: aviation, synthetic oil and rubber, aluminum, chemicals, iron and steel, and army equipment. The capital assets of state-owned industry doubled during this same period, whereby the nationalization caused state-ownership of companies to increase to over 500 businesses.[40] Further, government finances for state-owned enterprises quadrupled from 1933 to 1943.[41] Albert Speer in his memoirs remarked that “a kind of state socialism seemed to be gaining more and more ground” among many Nazi party functionaries, warning that Germany’s industry was becoming “the framework for a state-socialist economic order.”[42] Earlier, Hitler made his economic intentions clear in a 1931 interview with Richard Breiting, explaining that he would honor the 13 point plank of the National Socialist 25-point program, which he declared “demands the nationalisation of all public companies, in other words socialisation, or what is known here as socialism.”[43]

>>136920466
>>136920290
I think you guys misunderstood each other, aren't you both in agreement. I don't think he's the Polish jew

>>136920712
In other cases, where the Nazi administration wanted additional industrial capacity, they would first nationalize and then establish a new state-owned-and-operated company. In 1937 Hermann Göring targeted companies producing iron ore, “taking control of all privately owned steelworks and setting up a new company, known as the Hermann Göring Works.”[44] Those industries that somehow remained in private hands often received favoritism, subsidies and various state assistance. Nonetheless, Hitler was “an enemy of free market economics”[45] whose regime was committed to an economic “New Order” controlled by the “Party through a bureaucratic apparatus staffed by technical experts and dominated by political interests,” similar to the economic planning of the Soviet Union.[46] The American journalist and war correspondent William L. Shirer described the economics of National Socialist Germany as a straitjacket for businesses and markets. He asserted that German businesses suffered under “mountains of red tape,” were instructed “as to what they could produce, how much and at what price,” while at the same time encumbered by rising taxation, and extorted by “steep and never ending ‘special contributions’ to the party.”[47]

>>136920697
Yep, that confirms the fact that you are too retarded to comprehend my first post.
Thank you for admiting it.

>>136920770
>By the late 1930s, taxation, regulations and general hostility towards the business community were becoming so onerous that one German businessman wrote: "These Nazi radicals think of nothing except ‘distributing the wealth,'” while some businessmen were “studying Marxist theories, so that they will have a better understanding of the present economic system."[48] In other cases, National Socialist officials were levying harsh fines of millions of marks for a “single bookkeeping error.”[49] The anti-business motives behind the Nationalist Socialists has been attributed to the Nazi leadership’s aim “to soak the rich and ‘neutralize big spenders,’” since they harbored “hostility towards the wealthy.”[50] The Nationals Socialists were also hostile to trade associations and small corporations. Hitler’s administration decreed an October 1937 policy that “dissolved all corporations with a capital under $40,000 and forbade the establishment of new ones with a capital less than $200,000,” which swiftly affected the collapse of one fifth of all small corporations.[51] On July 15, 1933 a law was enacted that imposed compulsory membership in cartels, while by 1934 the Third Reich had mandated a reorganization of all companies and trade associations and placed them “under the control of the state.”[52] While some National Socialist diehards proposed a total ban against all trading of stocks and bonds in an effort to prevent the spread of “Jewish capital,” others, in their anti-capitalist quest, sought “the abolition of income not earned by work or toil and distinguish between ‘rapacious’ and ‘productive’ capital.”[53] Nonetheless, the Nazi regime was able to close most of Germany’s stock exchanges, reducing them “from twenty-one to nine in 1935,” and “limited the distributed of dividends to 6 percent.”[54] By 1936 Germany decreed laws to completely block foreign stock trades by citizens.[55]

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>>136920016
Honestly, uou're cool man
Seriously stick around
We would love for you to be able to learn something if you're open enough to it

>>136920829
Here's the privatization part.

>Although the Nazi Party election programs supported nationalization of major industries, the Nazi government included a few actual policies of privatization in the 1930s.[56] Between the fiscal years 1934/35 and 1937/38, privatization represented 1.4 percent of the German government's revenues.[57] Among companies that were privatized, were the four major commercial banks in Germany that had all come under public ownership during the prior years; Commerz– und Privatbank, Deutsche Bank und Disconto-Gesellschaft, Golddiskontbank and Dresdner Bank. Instead of making important investment decisions, and determining the use to which their funds were to be put, the private banks merely had to provide the technical facilities for covering government expenditure or financing new investment—the volume and composition of which had been previously settled by the government.[58][clarification needed] Also privatized were the Deutsche Reichsbahn (German Railways), at the time the largest single public enterprise in the world, the Vereinigte Stahlwerke A.G. (United Steelworks), the second largest joint-stock company in Germany (the largest was IG Farben) and Vereinigte Oberschlesische Hüttenwerke AG, a company controlling all of the metal production in the Upper Silesian coal and steel industry. The government also sold a number of shipbuilding companies, and enhanced private utilities at the expense of municipally owned utilities companies.[59]

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>>136920691
>>136920712
Before you keep spamming leftypedia, what part of any of your spam contradicts the chart I posted, that you're replying to? Also, name how the services offered by the state differed from any Allied state at the time.
>inb4 you can't
Because these are the services offered by modern developed nation states.

>>136920429
Almost fell for it. Made me exhale air from my nose

>>136920624
>>136920466
3 things:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ra-ChcOiuU

Pic is a volunteer cossack unit

The XV SS Cossack Cavalry was lead by Helmuth von Pannwitz, called "the last knight of europe" and refused to leave his men when the British betrayed them and handed over the cossacks and their families to the Soviets. He tried to get the British to take the cossack people and give himself to the Russians, but that also failed and they all went east together.

>>136920919
Was this meant to contradict my post? Did you even read/understand what you posted?

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>>136920919
All extremely similar to Bernie Sanders' policies.

>Meanwhile, the Nazis replaced the existing trade unions with the German Labour Front, controlled by the Party. Similar to Vladimir Lenin’s labor policies inside the Soviet Union, the National Socialists banned strikes, sacks and lockouts, essentially nationalizing the independent labor movement.[60][61] Furthermore, under Nazi “Germany the official unions have been made compulsory by law”, forcing every worker to join Hitler’s state-owned labor union.[62] The Chamber of Economics (whose president was appointed by the Reich minister of economics) absorbed all existing chambers of commerce. By 1934 these two groups merged somewhat when the Chamber of Economics also became the economics department of the Labour Front. To aid this, a board of trustees run by representatives of the party, German Labour Front and Chamber of Economics was set up to centralize economic activity.[63]

>When it came to retail and small business, in order to coordinate workers and small businessmen, shop councils and the so-called Courts of Honour were set up to monitor retail units. Unlike Italian Fascism, Nazism perceived workers and employers in each enterprise as families; each with different roles. In real terms this meant that wages, working hours and general business practices were determined by worker councils (whose members ranged from 2 - 10) and employers, seeking a compromise.[64]

>In June 1933, the "Reinhardt Program" for infrastructure development was introduced. It combined indirect incentives, such as tax reductions, with direct public investment in waterways, railroads and highways.[65] It was followed by similar initiatives resulting in great expansion of the German construction industry. Between 1933 and 1936, employment in construction rose from only 666,000 to over 2,000,000.[66]

>>136920770
>>136920712
>>136920691
Instead of spamming wikipedia paragraphs how about you try to make an actual argument? Just because Aviation and Synthetic factories were nationalized doesn't negate the fact other major industries were privatized. The main reason many things were privatized was to fight back against the effects of the depression, Hjalmar Schacht's deficit spending was the reason Germany was able to recover its economy faster than America yet both used the same Keynesian economics.

https://voxeu.org/article/macroeconomics-germany-forgotten-lesson-hjalmar-schacht

http://www.ihr.org/other/economyhitler2011.html

>>136920468
This shit's fucking me up, fampai

>>136921043
I was providing a more complete picture. Also, Bernie Sanders doesn't want a communist state, he wants a democratic socialist state like you are advocating for.

>>136921087
The main reason many things were nationalized***

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>>136920986
forgot pic

More:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Liberation_Army

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>>136921046
>retail units and small business continues to exist
>"it's like Vadimir Lenin's soviet union"
wtf i totally love gommunism now

>>136917610
Hurr DURRRRRRR!

> National Socialism
> Propoganda
Meanwhile in the real world...
> everything against you is SOCIALIST
> all the 1st amendment speech you exercise in this tiny brained world of yours is supported by LIBERALS
> Keep thinking small, my dumb Nazi friends

>>136921123
But the democratic socialist state bernie wants is nothing like the natsoc state you just described, did you bother to read anything you posted?

Why is it always the same retards spamming the same dead arguments over and over again in these threads?

>>136920429
10/10
Made me smile
Wish it was for real though haha

>>136921087
Just pointing out that while there was some privatization, there was a lot of nationalization too, Communist style.

>>136921123
>he wants a democratic socialist state like you are advocating for.

Entirely wrong, democratic socialism is the people choosing what industries get nationalized in the same manner that they elect politicians who promise them the most from the national budget, democratic socialism is dysgenic. National Socialism is a man or a group of officials taking an apolitical stance towards nationalization (e.g. Hitler saying they have no economic theory) and privatization and choosing what seems best for the people. It's much better than some old kike giving spics and niggers the ability to vote for more gibs

>>136921225
How is it different?

>>136921112
We all went through our own confrontation with the logical inconsistencies of the establish historical narrative

I know you said you didn't want a huge documentary to watch, but The Greatest Story Never Told is probably one of the most informative pieces of objective historical documentation and a great introductory to the life of Hitler and what really happened during the course of WWII

>>136921314
Whatever the means, the ends would be the same, just like it was in Nazi Germany where you had the massive infrastructure spending, a welfare state, free healthcare, etc.

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>>136921159
>Liberals support Nazism/Fascism
The Democrats are the REAL racists, amirightguise?

>>136921221
That's why white separatist libertarianism exists.

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>>136921249
Because nupol is actually a cult.

>>136921327
Didn't we just list all these differences in the last thread? Was that you shilling this meme then too?
>13% tax rate
>compulsory employment
>"welfare" consisted primary of employment contracting
>get a job if you're poor, here's some churches for clothes and foodbanks
>most similar feature was state taking over for labor unions, thus eliminating independent labor unions
Not event he west could brag about accomplishing that coup against organized labor. Would have been nice I bet, if they had.
>b-but Leninim was the same as Natsoc
Some more obvious differences:
>Natsoc made christianity the offical state religion, Communism made atheism the official state religion
>Natsoc was pro-capitalism (anti-usury, anti-wall-street-style capitalism), Communism was "state socialism"
>Natsoc protected the right and importance of private property, Communism outlawed private property
>Natsoc allowed people to leave if they didn't like it, Communism kept them prisoner like slaves
>Natsoc was racial and ethnic nationalist, wanted to remove jews and degenerates; Communism made racism punishable by death and was anti-nationalist (rpo-internationalist)
>Natsoc believed nature creates inequality, and inequality is just; Communism believes that equality must be enforced, no matter how many die in the process
>Natsoc believes in male and female roles, communism believes men and women are interchangeable and identical

>>136921270
Yes, but you're still not digesting my entire point, I pointed out that nationalization was taken to such an extreme because of the extreme negative economic conditions at the time occurring in germany. To suggest that we want radical nationalization of industries when it isn't needed is just absurd, American NatSoc's didn't even advocate for a dictatorship, they wanted to keep the republic, and free speech unlike in Germany. The policies of the ANP were immensely more free market than those of the NSDAP

>>136920944
>>136921257

I almost fail for it also, but there was that tab in the bottom left that said the video was fake and if you watch it through /pol/ yo can see the creator of the videos avatar.
he did a good job creating it though

>>136921221
>>136920860
Wow, you nazis are pretty chill dudes lol

Are you pretty extreme in terms of racial differences? Cause personally I don't give a fuck as long as you're not detrimental to society. the case being that I'm aware that most nig-nogs, spices, etc are most of the crime but most of the time I can chill with whomever. Can you guys chill with other races or do you actively avoid them?

>>136921454
see >>136921640

>>136921454
>Infrastructure spending
That's a good thing
>Welfare state
Not what you're thinking. No one was just collecting gibs
>Free healthcare
Not an inherently bad thing

>>136921640
Every nation nationalizes in a wartime economy....

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>>136921314
>taking an apolitical stance towards nationalization
I'm sorry, didn't I just the list of all major industries Natsoc privatized, and this Bernfag listed the industries specifically from Kikepedia? Why is this still a thing? It gets really old having to list these facts every single thread.

https://i.4cdn.org/pol/1502434828985.png
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-economic-history/article/div-classtitlethe-role-of-private-property-in-the-nazi-economy-the-case-of-industrydiv/5853885D956348A13B5CEFDC42313E2B
https://youtu.be/pKnFN8P21-0
>Against the Mainstream: Nazi privatization in 1930's Germany (Germa Bel)
http://www.ub.edu/graap/EHR.pdf
http://voxeu.org/article/macroeconomics-germany-forgotten-lesson-hjalmar-schacht

>>136921604
I wasn't in last thread. I never said Natsoc is just as bad as Communism, far from it. If I had to choose between the two, I would pick Natsoc everytime. I was just saying that, in terms of economic policy, it is almost identical to what Bernie Sanders wants.

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>>136920986
Correction, I'm a bit tired and mis-remembered: Pannwitz decided to stay with the Cossacks and try to get them taken in by the western allies, to whom he had surrendered.
There was no attempt to get himself sent to the soviets and have the Cossack men and their families stay behind.

"I was with the Cossacks in good times, and I will stay with them in bad times."

>>136921553
Pretty much. Are you arguing untrue?

>>136921640
Interesting.

>>136921674
End goal is an ethnostate. This isn't civic nationalism. You don't have to despise others, but a NatSoc country would be for a single race.

>>136921739
see>>136920691
Sounds pretty gibby.

>>136921759
There's a case to be argued there, but I'm explaining why they nationalized industries in the six years of peace. It was part of the economic recovery program by Hjalmar Schacht called the MEFO program, things like healthcare obviously for the social reasons of wanting a healthy population etc

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>>136921804
>I never said Natsoc is just as bad as Communism
You literally just compared it to Leninism and Uncle Bernsky. I posted a list of major industries natsoc privatized -- "privatized" is a practice Natsocs literally invented -- and you yourself listed specific industries and companies that were privatized. So why and how can you draw a parallel to democratic socialism when Natsoc was NEITHER DEMOCRATIC and it PRIVATIZED 98% OF ALL INDUSTRIES?

It's such a forced meme, it gets dumber and dumber the longer you clowns try to force it.

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>>136917882
>>136918204
>>136918601
Bolshevism guys

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>>136922019
>why they nationalized industries
They literally did the opposite.

>>136917610
So essentially natsoc could be considered a form of rightish centrism? It seems to have a philosophical stance of socialism and an economic/practical stance of capitalism

>>136921968
These things are not inherently bad, your opposition to them is that in our society they go to people who don't need them or abuse them. That doesn't happen in our system.

>>136921797
thats a good list, I'm thinking about reading "The Wages of Destruction" as a critical analyzation of Germany's economy and look into what good and bads it offers. There's also a paper on the work programs by R.J. Overy at cambridge that I'm gonna look at thats much shorter than the previous work. Once I'm finished I'll probably shill the info I got from it here so it can get added to the paste

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>>136922144
Centrist economically (pretty much Keynesian), far right socially and politically.

>>136921454
>a welfare state, free healthcare
This was created before Hitler was even born you dumb cunt. Do you know who created it and why?

>>136922105
Well they nationalized certain industries relative to manufacturing sectors and other things, but they privatized those major industries as well

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>>136921674
The belief that National Socialism is only for white people is such a false meme, it's not even funny anymore. There are many Blacks, Mexicans, etc who share our views, al biet a minority.

National Socialism, as stated before, is the belief in the natural order of nature; Man, despite being a special animal in the world of nature must still follow its laws. National Socialists believe that every race belongs with their own kind because only their race is best equipped and suited to provide for them: blacks provide for blacks, whites provide for whites, etc. A white person will never fully understand the struggle a black person will ever experience, and vice versa, because their cultures are completely different. We believe that some cultures ARE definitely better than others (look at what the white race has contributed to the world) but that with help, and homogeny; all races can be made to best suit their own kind in their own space. This is why the blue birds fly with the blue birds, and the red birds fly with the red birds

We believe every race has a right to exist, but they must not and cannot peacefully co-exist in mixed and multicultural society

Hitler wanted to make Germans for the Germans and for 12 years he did and for those 12 years, it was nearly heaven on earth for Germans. If he would have won, he would have extended National Socialism far and wide so that EVERY nation would have a government solely created and existing for the sole purpose of serving its own ethnohomogenous society

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>>136921674
Well, I don't like being mean to individuals from other races who are genuinely good, but I want to live among my own people. It's the larger trends of racial groups that drag us down, unfortunately. I just want to separate. No hard feelings. Good ones can visit, though, there's no real problem with that. Also, as a separate point, I don't want my people to risk obliteration again by starting le based alt-lite country and having it plagued by the same problems that the west is now.

In my multiracial country I use common sense, not hatred to get along and it works just fine.

I can't find it now, but there's a short but sweet redpill screenshot about what would happen if blacks disappeared from the US. The impact if blacks and hispanics disappeared would be even greater...

>>136921823
Get the fuck back to r/The_Donald lmao

>>136922252
>they nationalized certain industries relative to manufacturing sectors and other things
Specifically, or just gonna leave it at "some industries"?

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>>136919160
I need more post war alt history shit like this, post em please

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>>136922246
My brother

>>136922033
Bernie Sanders isn't a communist though. The only industries he wants to nationalize are maybe the banks and healthcare. Like I said, the means may be different, but the end result looks very similar.

Also see >>136920712
Sounds like it was a little less than 98% to me.

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one last bump, guten nacht meine bruders

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>>136922313
This one?

>>136920059
Okay, but how could you, as a Pole, ever support an ideology that used aryanism to justify your subjugation and replacement?

>>136922432
>nationalize are maybe the banks
Pinochet nationalized the banks, you stupid fuck, along with keeping the largest industry in Chile nationalized. Is Pinochet suddenly a socialist because of this?

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Free healthcare and "welfare" are not bad things inherently. In NatSoc these institutions are established as necessary to serve the interests of the Volk.
"Socialism" in the interest of FOLK. Not dindu niggers and immigrants.

Americans can't hear the word socialism without thinking about bernie handing free money to dindus.

>>136922251
What does it matter if it was part and parcel of the Nazi system?

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>>136921674
>Are you pretty extreme in terms of racial differences?
Race mixing is pretty destructive to every race it's inflicted upon. It also makes high-trust societies impossible. Pretty much a recipe for social and genetic chaos.

卐 - RACE MIXING AND WHY IT'S BAD
---------------------------------
http://pastebin.com/tGMEhbhf
http://msu.edu/~renn/RHE-_mixed_race.pdf
http://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1448064/
http://content.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1993074,00.html
http://sociobiologicalmusings.blogspot.ca/2011/10/problems-with-mixed-race-marriages-and.html
http://nature.com/scitable/topicpage/haldane-s-rule-the-heterogametic-sex-1144

>>136922399
nice

>>136922432
>Bernie Sanders isn't a communist though.
Natsoc is neither democratic, nor left-socialist. Their notion of "socialism" is Prusianism/folkism, a form of ethno-nationalist producer-centered capitalism. They managed to provide services for their people, but socialism is almost entirely about common ownership of capital and wealth, ie, "nationalized capital" -- Natsoc was the opposite.
>inb4 hey privatized to their crony friends
Most CEOs of former state industries remained unchanged throughout the 12 years since 1933, many were even kept in place by the Allies, post-war.

>>136922594
So you agree Bernie isn't a communist and his economic plan would like Nazi Germany. Sounds good.

>>136922617
The word has been ruined here, and if a NatSoc party ever took in America, the word socialism would be no where in it's name or platform

>>136922334
see >>136920712
>government ownership expanded greatly into formerly private sectors of strategic industries

Again, this was because of the MEFO program

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>>136922362
Times Square Reich

Watch The Man in the High Castle; its got a lot of (((propaganda))) in it you have to sift through as a NatSoc, but it's great at world building and a good brain-think exercise

>>136919927

If these faces were really an average, they would look fatter, uglier, and dumber.

>>136922622
It matters why it was put into practice in the first place you dumb bastard. Bismarck specifically created the modern welfare state to take support away from the actual socialists in Germany at the time.

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>>136922144
Beyond left and right

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>>136922617
>Pay for my healthcare and food stamps!!!

>>136922753
I think it has been ruined worldwide, or at least has a negative connotation to anyone National Socialism has any chance of receiving support from

It's often why Hitler said he often wish he would have named it the Social Nationalist movement because it would be a little bit less off-putting to the simple minded

But such is life

>>136922855
If fat fuck refuses to exercise and keeps eating he gets his welfare dropped. Your welfare is not guaranteed and can be dropped at a moments notices.

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>>136922513
That sure is it. Thanks.

>>136922563
Regardless of mistakes made during WW2, we're all fighting together this time.

Night, thread.

>>136922855
>implying NEETs and lazy shits would benefit from any forms of welfare in place
You do understand that Nazi Germany was still a fascist state and had strict provisions and restrictions for those who refused to work, right?

>>136922898
Yep, unfortunately as that side won, the marxist definition stuck. In reality, as these ideas become more mainstream it will have a completely different name

>>136922815
Yes but Nazi Germany incorporated it into their system.
>Did Nazis have a welfare state? Check.
>Does Bernie Sanders want a welfare state? Check.

>>136922717
Bernie is a social democrat which means he wants to "fix" capitalism not get rid of it, the nazis went even a step beyond that in that they privatized a shit load of industry, so much so that the word privatization comes from nazi era economic policy.

>>136922772
Love that show, any idea when season 3 is going to come out?

>>136921454
You don't know the first thing about natsoc. Unearned income was abolished. Read the 25-point plan of the NSDAP.

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>>136923046
Tell me dipshit, would Sanders agree with this?

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>>136922362
Another one
>what could have been
>what should have been
I wish Trump was what the Liberals thought he was
I cri evry teim :'(

>>136923019
Well, I would hope so but of course I am weary when governments say, "We'll do it better when we get in power." Communist make that argument a lot. "It wasn't real communism!"

>>136922855
Epic shitpost, Germany had literal exercise and aerobics programs for adults to keep the country from being 1/3 obese like America is today. They made the Hitler Youth go through rigorous physical training too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so5nCZq_j8w&bpctr=1502439235

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>>136922717
>you obviously disagreed with me so you agree with me checkmate haha
Fuck off.

>>136922758
Weasel wording: "expanding in sectors if strategic industries" -- after privatizing over 90% of formerly state held industries. There's a reason we call it "kikepedia", because asshats like Ryulong debate in these generals, then log in over on leftypedia and change the entries to better faciliate shilling. Just read the changelogs, you can watch them do it over time.
>the MEFO program
Was literally the War Bonds program in the US; this was not an example of "mass nationalization of industry" in either country.

>>136922855
>hurrr
quality post, faggot

>>136923046
Your "welfare state" is not what you think it is. This is not nogs collecting gubmit bux, no neetbux. Things are not black and white, wanting a social policy to benefit the volk is not the same as paying for jamal's air jordans

>>136923265
Also, what kind of welfare state makes work compulsory?

>>136923205
But no one in here is saying "It wasn't real x"
National Socialism is Socialism but with a completely anti-Marxist and traditional approach to it

Bernie Sanders would need more than just Race Realism to turn it all around and be considered a National Socialist; there ideology is so much deeper than "It's just Socialism"

>>136923334
The same one that forbids you from being a drain on those social programs!

>>136923218
>Was literally the War Bonds program in the US; this was not an example of "mass nationalization of industry" in either country.
True, I stand corrected. Its funny how some of the shit on wiki doesn't even have sources like the Euthanasia gas vans

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>>136923431
This
>0% unemployment
>literally illegal to refuse work
>ZOMG FUCKING WELFARE STATE! >SOSHULIZUM!
fucking brainlets ITT kek

>>136923109
Interesting, didn't realize they had free higher ed like Bernie wants too.
>>136923170
Is that economic policy?

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>>136923205
Also pic related
I'm coming in on the tail end of this discussion so I'm not sure what you've already covered yet

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>>136923535
>Propaganda literally promoting killing the disabled rather than having tax dollars go to them
>durr that's not economics
Just kill yourself already

>>136923218
Whoever argued that Pinochet nationalized the banks like Bernie wants too. How does make the point that Bernie and the Natsocs aren't similar in their economic policies? It reinforces it.

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>>136922717
You're debating like a fucking kike
>hurr durr so you agree with me that a surface-level analysis can draw arbitrary parallels between Sanders and Hitler?

>>136923108
Not a clue
I'm still finishing up season 1 so I hope it comes out sometime when I'm finishing up season 2

I just... seriously sometimes wonder if the producers of this show ever wonder to themselves that anyone would watch it and actually be rooting for the Nazis. How would they react if they know there's a sizable portion of actual National Socialists that enjoy the show and really empathize with the Nazis? Hahaha

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>>136923470
>the Euthanasia gas vans
Few people mention these were developed and only used by the NKVD. "Death squads", like the Einsatsgruppen supposedly were, were only death squads to partizans. The "gas trucks" was a soviet propaganda meme. In reality, the "German gas vans" were built by the NKVD to be used for the same purposes they accused the Germans of using them for:

>There we see many more Jewish names. And from the astonishing disclosure in 1990 we learned that the famous mobile gas chambers were invented, as it turns out, not by Hitler during the World War II, but in the Soviet NKVD in 1937 by Isai Davidovich Berg, the head of the administrative and maintenance section of the NKVD of Moscow Oblast. Sure, he was not alone in that enterprise, but he organized the whole business. This is why it is also important to know who occupied middle-level posts. It turns out, that I. D. Berg was entrusted with carrying out the sentences of the troika of the NKVD of Moscow Oblast; he dutifully performed his mission, which involved shuttling prisoners to the execution place. But when three troikas began to work simultaneously in the Moscow Oblast, the executioners became unable to cope with the sheer number of executions. Then they invented a time-saving method: the victims were stripped naked, tied, mouths plugged, and thrown into a closed truck, outwardly disguised as a bread truck. On the road the exhaust fumes were redirected into the prisoner-carrying compartment, and by the time the van arrived to the burial ditch, the prisoners were ready.

"200 Years Together" by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn page 235


http://vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndwagon.html
holocausthandbooks.com/dl/26-tgv.pdf

>>136923535
>free higher ed
Nothing is ever free, kiddo. Everybody paid for these services with their taxes, because everyone worked.

>>136923704
>Whoever argued that Pinochet nationalized the banks
Dunno, didn't mention Pinochet in my post, check my ID.

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>>136923691
So any policy concerning the use of tax dollars is economic policy?

>>136923704
>like Bernie wants too.
Name one time he advocated for such a thing, you lying of shit. Keep in mind we're talking about the same Sanders who supported Hillary who kissed banker ass throughout her campaign.

This kind of shit tier arguing is the same kind of shit centristfags use to say "HURR DURR NAHTZEES ARE TEH ESS JAY DUBBAYOUS TOO"

>>136923836
oof, didn't know that. I know Stalin ordered a scorched earth policy though, so all the "evidence" for things like general plan OST might have been stalin's work and could have extended to other parts of the holocaust

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Why do we enjoy the BBC so much, fellow NatSocs?

>>136922288
I'm a spic and I disagree with the statement that each race is good for their own. Seriously, shit's bad down here. I mean, you can live in peace, for sure and most are level-headed and whatnot but shit just gets bad. I'd rather have the occassional Ted Bundy than constant outbursts.

That can be said for US to a certain extent, though. It's not like your getting much support from your fellow whites, sad as it is. It's interesting, though, because the problem is not exactly violence amongst your own race but rather massive brainwashing from every medium.

>>136923715
>hurr durr so you agree with me that a surface-level analysis can draw arbitrary parallels between Sanders and Hitler?
So you admit I'm right. Thanks.

>>136923879
>something where the government decides where money goes towards isn't economics
KILL YOURSELF

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#136923981

(You)

>>136920468
aaaah everything you say sounds so believable... but i'm not sure if i'm prepared to accept it as true

>>136923987
>I'm a spic
That's why. Go fix your own people first.

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>>136923894
Bernie took tons of donations from bankers. Bernie loved banks.

>>136923949
>evidence" for things like general plan OST
You mean the single secretary that claimed to have "witnessed" the plan? A massive plan for the colonization of all East Europe and Central Asia didn't leave a trace, or more than one witness? Funny too, since other documents like 1880 were also submitted into evidence, but get completely ignored:

(page 147)
www.loc.gov/rr/frd/Military_Law/pdf/NT_war-criminals_Vol-XIII.pdf

>>136923022
Yeah, like the Identitarian/White Nationalist movement

Many right-wingers I talk to just can't seem to pry the notion of Marxism away from Socialism (Communism in a nutshell). They believe they are part-in-parcel with eachother and that all forms of Socialism will lead to Communism; to an extent if it is coupled with any degree of Marxism, it will; but they just haven't ever experienced or been exposed to the idea that Socialism could exist in a hard-right Fascist society like how it was used in Nazi Germany

I really believe one day that National Socialism will get the day in the sun it deserves, but I also agree that it will take a lot of tactical insurgence to get there

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>>136923997
Clearly you aren't interested in debate and instead prefer to strawman. Go fucking kill yourself faggot

>>136924102
Fair point. You can't fix biology, though.

>>136924117
>Bernie took tons of donations from bankers. Bernie loved banks.
That does not go against what i just said, you know that right? In fact, it reinforces what i said.

>>136924002
>Economic policy refers to the actions that governments take in the economic field. It covers the systems for setting levels of taxation, government budgets, the money supply and interest rates as well as the labor market, national ownership, and many other areas of government interventions into the economy.
Where does that mention sterilization programs?

>>136924205
>That does not go against what i just said, you know that right?
Yeah, I was kind of seconding and amplifying what you said, ie, "Hallelujah, Amen."

>>136924157
Haha you're the one that said it.

>>136924117
>Funny too, since other documents like 1880 were also submitted into evidence, but get completely ignored:

that's really interesting, did not know about this. Whats the consensus on things like the Eichmann tapes? I feel like even my revisionist view needs to be revised

>>136923894
>>136924117
I was wrong, I thought he did. Looks like he is even less socialist than the Natsocs.

>>136923987
You're contrasting your country in the state it is now to the US instead of imagining what could be accomplished if your country adapted National Socialism and everyone was looking to better the country for your people instead of fleeing off to better pastures

>>136924254
>It covers the systems for setting levels of taxation
Do you not even read what you copy & paste? Holy shit, you are one dumb motherfucker. Slit your wrists

>>136924379
Oh the irony of this post.

>>136924351
>I was wrong
Finally, some honesty. Yes, you've been wrong this whole time, stop posting, you're only embarrassing yourself

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>>136924333
>Eichmann tapes
Like, the trial in Israel? He said a number of things, confessions specifically, that were so logistically or mathematically impossible, that many think he intentional sabotaged his own testimony.

>>136924351
Speaking of Bernie, something I often wonder about is why kikes are such natural parasites? How is possible that a race of people could evolve to so expertly and consistently parasite off other human beings? Do you kikes are proud of this, or is their neurosis the result of elaborate denial mechanism to protect them from the humiliating reality?

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>>136924300
Do you know the definition of arbitrary or is your brain too small? You're arguing that a political system that throws the chronically lazy into forced labor camps is "too gibby"

>>136924446
Everytime the Natsocs start losing they resort to "kys", "slit your wrists". Nigger tier.

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>>136923987
>I'm a spic and I disagree with the statement that each race is good for their own. Seriously, shit's bad down here
Spic isn't a race. You're either a mongrelized mestizo, pardo etc. or (rarely) wholly mediterranean or (even extremely more rarely) wholly germanic extraction.
The most successful and livable latin american countries are the more ethnically homogeneous ones with a lesser amount of mongrelization.

>>136924445
>nazi propaganda attempting to muster support for taking away benefits to disabled from the tax-payers
>this somehow isn't related to taxation
There are no words to describe my amazement at your stupidity

>>136924512
True, regardless of the impossible claims, why would he sabotage his own testimony?

>>136924552
>You're arguing that a political system that throws the chronically lazy into forced labor camps is "too gibby"
Actually that just sounds like communism.

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>>136924553
>Everytime kikes start losing they resort to "i win" and "BTFO" posting.
FTFY.

>>136924095
Think of it this way
In all formerly Axis countries, it is illegal to discuss the validity of the Holocaust

If truth was truth, and history is written in stone, would you ever need to make it ILLEGAL for people to question it? History can never change correct?
If it's truth is truth always, wouldn't they actively be pushing people to research it on their own to find out for themselves? Why would they need to make it illegal to question such a claim if it is history and it actually happened? Unless of course.. it didn't?

>>136924553
>start losing
I have not been wrong in any of my claims, yet you have had to admit you were wrong at least once on a crucial point and yet you still persist. You're out of your league

>>136924614
>why would he sabotage his own testimony?
What did he have to lose? His testimony wouldn't save his life, just control hos he would be remembered. Perhaps as a final "fuck you" to his captors, and to mock the court.

http://www.fpp.co.uk/Auschwitz/Eichmann/Grubach%20on.html

>>136924168
But you can raise the median intellect of a nation high enough to where they become autonomous and create their own contributions. This is why Hitler believed National Socialism could be successful with any race: it is Natural Order by the laws of nature

>>136924598
>>136924598
By your definition, any government program could fall under economic policy. Immigration policy would really just be economic policy because tax money is spent enforcing it. You see where you went astray now?

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>>136924095
I mean hey the admittedly lied about the 11 million holocaust death toll, wouldn't be surprised if they lied about a lot more. Official polish trial records for Auschwitz say only 300k died at Auschwitz http://www.fpp.co.uk/Auschwitz/docs/controversies/deathroll/Wochenschau1948.html


http://archive.is/gGnmb

>Yehuda Bauer, an Israeli Holocaust scholar who chairs the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance, said he warned his friend Wiesenthal, who died in 2005, about spreading the false notion that the Holocaust claimed 11 million victims – 6 million Jews and 5 million non-Jews. “I said to him, ‘Simon, you are telling a lie,’” Bauer recalled in an interview Tuesday.

>“He said, ‘Sometimes you need to do that to get the results for things you think are essential.’”

>>136924684
If only saying something made it true.

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>>136924631
That may be true. Doesn't disprove my post though.

>>136919038
God damnit i wish i could go back:'(

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>>136924933
Saying "I win" doesn't mean you win; it usually means you're losing.

>>136924786
Ohh I see, he does give factually incorrect information almost on purpose it seems

>>136924512
>How is possible that a race of people could evolve to so expertly and consistently parasite off other human beings?
They're a race of nomadic vagabonds. They survive by exploiting the blood and soil of established races and their realms.
They commit their acts of kikery as guests in lands that do not belong to them and are rightfully persecuted.
The cycle repeats itself over and over. It's wholly ingrained in their DNA.

>>136924808
>Immigration policy would really just be economic policy
Of course you dumbass! There is money involved in practically everything including the instance which you are now conveniently attempting to move on from. You just can't admit you fucked up and it's hilarious. No worries though, i love making retards like you who think they're smart look pathetic.

>>136924684
It wasn't really a crucial point, it was just a side tangent. So Bernie didn't nationalize the banks, neither did Hitler.

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>>136924952
WISH WE COULD TURN BACK TIME

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>>136925031
>The cycle repeats itself over and over.

>>136925037
You are really confused. So all government policy is economic policy?

>>136924872
>If only saying something made it true.
Is it not true that you fucked up and had to admit you were full of shit and could not present anything to back up your false claim like here? >>136924351

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>>136925115
To the good dope days

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>>136924622
You obviously haven't read a single book on communism or national socialism

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>>136925149
Do you think Jewish animus toward gentiles is rooted in their religion, or is it perhaps genetic -- just a natural sense of aggression toward racial competitors?

>>136925168
Yep. I can admit when I'm wrong, unlike some people.

>>136925225
Probably both.

>>136925225
It's genetic. Read the Culture of Critique.

>>136925149
>So all government policy is economic policy?
What is this? Civics class? Lol

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>>136925276
How should it be dealt with next time?

>>136925126
The kikes are fucking pushing it too
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/720?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22Israel+Anti-Boycott+act%22%5D%7D&r=1

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>>136925289
>Culture of Critique
The central thesis: jewish superiority as a result of selective breeding within the rabbinical tradition, is flawed.

>>136925320
That's not an answer.

>>136925241
>unlike some people.
You have yet to make a point which was not complete bullshit. What do i have to concede on?

>>136925289
>>136925382
Would you highly recommend it?
Recently went on a book buying binge but I'm always looking to add more to the collection

>>136925382
The thesis isn't that they're superior though, the thesis is that their hatred of goyim and their inherent subversiveness is a result of selective breeding within the rabbinical tradition
>>136925459
It's a must read.

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why are cucks whining about bulls 24/7?

if someone is a cuck denying it over and over doesnt change anything

>>136925399
That both Bernie Sanders and Natsoc want universal healthcare, higher infrastructure spending, state higher education, a welfare state, government work programs, etc.

>>136925479
No, he argues their high IQ is the result of selective breeding within the rabbinical tradition, This does account for Middle Eastern and Asian Jews with the same rabbincal traditions, but lower average IQs. MacDonald also doesn't do much to approch inflated estimates of Jewish IQ with a critical eye. He just accepts them as given, almost like he's trying to buy good goy points so kikes accept the book.

>>136925479
>Must read
That's what I've heard
Picking it up soon then for sure, it's on the list now

>>136925566
You'd be amazed what you can afford when your currency is based on the availability of labor, rather than gold or debt.

>>136925393
You have to be at least 18 to post. If you haven't read mein kampf then you should go do that before coming back here. Once you have done any sort of analysis deeper than "natsocs and Bernie both have welfare" you'd realize how fucking retarded most of the shit you said in here was.

>>136925584
>This does account
*doesn't account

>>136925225
Its definitely genetics. One of the reasons why Jews have been able to attain so much power over the years is because their own societies were set up in such a way that if you were intelligent, you would be rewarded with high positions of power within Jewish society. This led not only to a gradual incentivized eugenics within the Jewish people, but also a lust for power as it was seen as the ends and intelligence as only the means. Jewish societies who found themselves in conflict with gentiles had their upper intellectual class evacuated from Jewish communities first, usually along with carriages. In contrast the less intelligent ones had to take with them what they could carry on their backs and go on foot most of the time. The intellectual class was already in a position of power, and that power meant your life was saved.

Gradually as times changed Jews found out that they could attain power in Gentile societies through ways other than intelligence. From then on they went to pursue their ends through the means of usury, nepotism, and very strong in group preferences which lead to the Jewish Influence in every major institution that you have today

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Every part of my being wishes that the current state of the world is some twisted alternate history. No instead that is our reality, a world filled with degerency, flith, and lies upon lies spat out of the Jews. I have become despondent in our world, no matter what is said or done the clock cannot be reversed. To see the world for it's corrupt and morally bankrupt self bears quite a heavy burden.

>>136925652
Not an answer. Is all government policy just economic policy? The answer is obviously no.

>>136925566
>welfare state
Every capitalist country has a welfare state, even Reagan, Nixon, and Eisenhower had welfare states. There hasn't been a single first world country in over 100 years that hasn't had some form of a welfare state.

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>>136925661
which led*

I'm fucking tired as shit, gonna go to bed so I can get to the gym early today. Gnite goys

>>136925566
I've done the welfare state meme with you already. Infrastrcuture spending is a good thing, and I imagine you support Trump right? He is also big into infrastructure spending! Maybe he's bernie sanders too? Universal healthcare is not an inherently bad thing, you dislike the current attempts. Government work programs are also objectively a good thing.

>>136925770
Ok, let's say a more effective welfare state.

>>136925824
So we're in a agreement that Bernie Sanders' economic program is very similar to Natsoc.

>>136925661
>One of the reasons why Jews have been able to attain so much power over the years is because their own societies were set up in such a way that if you were intelligent, you would be rewarded with high positions of power within Jewish society.
Yes, I've read the book, I'm telling you that's demonstrably wrong. Jews have almost no intellectual achievements whatsover for the 3000 years of their recorded history. They were universally regarded as congenitally stupid, pejoratively dismissed as "people of book", implying that was their only accomplishment or identity. Until the early 20th century, Jewish children consistently underperformed gentile counterparts, until roghly the mid 20th century when the dynamic miraculously reversed. Except, when you scrutinize the main literature on psychometrics, Jewish IQ is still slightly averaging below gentile IQ.
>inb4 buh Asheknazim are different jews
They really aren't; their IQ scores are inflated, and MacDonald doesn't address this at all.

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>>136925692
But it's only by seeing and bearing can we be free. I would rather live in a world where I can see my masters than slave away in one without the faintest clue.

We may never be able to return to where we've come, but we have an opportunity now to fight and make the place we are running to all the same as it was

>>136925566
>both Bernie Sanders and Natsoc want universal healthcare
see
>>136923170
Which you conveniently brushed off

>a welfare state
Again, the only reason it was even created was to save capitalism from being overthrown from an actual socialist revolution, you should be thankful for these appeasements.

>government work programs
Such as the labor service which literally forced young men to work with shit pay and even shittier housing conditions. Does that sound like something Sanders would be in favor of.

What about the Autobahn, another work program, which was mostly just for show

Reduction of unemployment was presented as the main reason for the Reichsautobahn project, and propaganda both used the autobahn to represent the Arbeitsschlacht and Nazi reduction of unemployment in general and emphasized the project's role. This included misleading graphs and exaggerated statistics.[78] For the first two years of construction, mechanization was avoided so far as possible in order to create more work (although lack of machinery was also a factor).[79] Numerous celebrations all over the Reich kept the project in the public eye.[80] It was therefore logical from the point of view of the regime that the majority of funding came from the employment department.[45]Fritz Todt (German engineer and senior Nazi figure) had foreseen the creation of at least 600,000 jobs. However, autobahn employment peaked in 1936 at 124,483 directly employed in construction and a similar number in the supply chain, so that the autobahn never directly or indirectly employed more than 250,000 workers.[13][81][82] Rearmament was responsible for a far greater share of unemployment reduction

>>136925820
night m8, hail victory

>>136925931
No we are not, and you are capable only of fitting things into only two categories, black and white. If it is not black, then it is white. If it's not muh capitalism, then it's bernie. You have clearly demonstrated you know nothing about NatSoc, despite everyone's attempts to show you. You are literally dinesh d'souza tier. In fact, are you Dinesh D'Souza?

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>>136925179
When our momma sang us to sleep but
Now we're stressed out.

>>136926226
I think we should return to the policy of not rewarding low quality posts from newfriends who don't lurk, with replies.

>>136925996
>Which you conveniently brushed off
That's specific healthcare or population control policy. When I said his policies I was talking about broad programs like higher infrastructure spending, free higher education, or universal healthcare. Obviously the minute details of the polices aren't going to be identical.
>So all government policy is economic policy?
You ever going to answer the question.

>>136925931
It's not though, the labor laws and currency are completely different. Gibs are given based on totally different criteria and unearned gibs are nonexistent in natsoc.

>>136926226
Nope. I think the real problem is that everyone in this thread got triggered cause I compared a Jew to Natsoc. The buttblast is real.

>>136926307
That's true, but arguing against these people is good for lurkers. They see what this ideology is, and more importantly what it isn't. I can't deny that they shouldn't get (you)s for their inability to lurk.

>>136926307
Yeah, circle jerking and LARPing is better.

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>>136926344
>That's specific healthcare or population control policy.
Economics, i.e. money, is everything, fucking retard.

> broad programs like higher infrastructure spending, free higher education, or universal healthcare
I repeat for the 6 million time, an attempt to cull the masses into discarding revolution.

>So all government policy is economic policy?
See above and if you still haven't got it by this point, than all i have for you is pic related

>>136926614
>See above and if you still haven't got it by this point, than all i have for you is pic related
Sad but not unexpected. Just admit you were wrong.

>>136926444
I don't think anyone even brought up the fact that Sanders is a jew, and no one is buttblasted. They're just tired of dealing with you, as your logic boils down to this type of argument in essence-
>Bernie wants a government
>Trump wants a government
"They're exactly the same!"

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>>136926444
>it couldn't be because I'm wrong, and instead of replying with actual arguments I just say "I'm winning lol" and "the buttblast is real"
After watching that shitshow, I'm curious to know if you're stupid enough to believe your own bullshit, or if you're just jerking off to all the replies you're getting. You still didn't answer my question about Jewish parasitism...

>>136926736
>Bernie wants a government
>Trump wants a government
>"They're exactly the same!"
Yep, all political candidates have the exact same policies as Bernie Sanders. Embarrassing...

>>136925948
So then is it still worth reading?

>>136926760
If they do something criminal then punish them.

>>136926878
>all political candidates have the exact same policies as Bernie Sanders
Fuck, if you're that retarded, why didn't you just say so 50 posts ago? Could have saved everyone the effort.

>>136926915
Yeah, but you should read other sources too. Think of MacDonald as an important view among many, and supplement it with other sources. Too many people on the alt-right kind of worship MacDonald when it doesn't really merit it.

http://www.alor.org/Race,%20Culture%20and%20Nation/Kevin%20MacDonald%20Culture%20of%20Critique.htm

http://www.alor.org/Race,%20Culture%20and%20Nation/Jewish%20Intellectual%20Supremacism%20-%20%20A%20Refutation.htm

>>136927063
>Fuck, if you're that retarded, why didn't you just say so 50 posts ago? Could have saved everyone the effort.
Haha and I'm the stupid one, not the person that can't recognize obvious sarcasm.

>>136927183
>Haha and I'm the stupid one
I would interpret your previous statement to be implying that, yes.

Can you guys please post some books/sources about art, typeface, calligraphy, fonts, font-family, font face, typography during NatSoc era? Whatever you have.

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>136926878
kek I'm starting to believe you're just LARPing as a fool. No more (you)s

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>>136927280
Antiqua or Fraktur are very Germanic fonts.

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>>136927236

>>136927280
Look up Arno Breker, big time sculptor of Hitler's Germany

>>136927063
I was going to do just that. I tend to not place people among pedestals, rather listen to their arguments and reflect on how they coincide with my own knowledge/views
I will definitely pick up the book still; I've seen it posted a lot and so I figured it would come pretty recommended

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>>136927450
(you)

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Hello, is this the American general thread ?

>>136927521
Ok let me break it down for you. The point is that Bernie and Natsoc obviously have more in common than the fact they both want government. Stating otherwise is disingenuous.

>>136927401
>>136927498

Thanks for the replies, but I'm looking for some more specialized stuff. How they developed/inherited the style in art etc., ideology behind it explained and so on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLwZ2pyPNAs

Interesting video about typefaces.

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>>136927520
All the parts where he blows the yid's collective dicks over their IQs can be ignored, but the stuff about Jewish ethnography -- about their "culture of deconstruction and defamation" -- is the gold in that book. I think you might actually get more ready Yuri Slezkine and Maurice Samuels or Moses Hess, than reading MacDonald or Duke.

>Politically Incorrect Books Archive:
http://mega.nz/#F!B4dB2SzQ!h_pMC30v2a_y31iD0dy0sg

>>136927676
>Ok let me break it down for you, I'm retarded and my shits all fucked up
Yeah, you're right that a democratic socialist can't ever have much in common with an anti-democratic anti-Marxist. It's kind of a silly comparison, like Hitler and Gandhi were both vegetarians -- so what, amirite?

>>136927720
Sorry I couldn't help you. Go check out the pastebin though, it may have what you're looking for

>>136927881
>Yeah, you're right that a democratic socialist can't ever have much in common with an anti-democratic anti-Marxist. It's kind of a silly comparison, like Hitler and Gandhi were both vegetarians -- so what, amirite?
Which is more similar to Nazism in domestic policy: democratic socialism, free market capitalism, communism, or the weird American hybrid we have now?

>>136927881
I got that mega-link earlier in the thread
I'll sift through it tomorrow because currently it is super late and I am in no state to do so
Thanks again

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>>136928146
>Hitler and Ghandi were both vegetarians
I know its funny, but think about it for a sec:
>Both were Aryan men
>Both believed in racial hierarchy
>Both believed the British empire was a great "ordering force" in the world
>Both believed we live in the Kali Yuga
>Both were ANTI-COLINIALIST revolutionaries
Holy fuck, Hitler was literally a Hindu Nationalist.