What is this picture trying to convey?

>>136911700
R34 when?

Idk but I Fucking Love Science

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>>136911700
Brainwashing that Christianity does. It really is baseless and honestly a waste of a painting. I'd much rather prefer it through something much more subtle.

That people are naturally atheist, and that the religion of the parents is the only reason why people follow a religion, probably.
Basically Richard Dawkins-tier shit argument.

>>136911949
>naturally atheist

Yet every civilization ever has followed a god or gods.

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>>136911700
that the artist is terrible at conveying any sort of meaning or emotion through is work, other then heavy handed bullshit that is likely just an outsiders viewpoint as he/she was likely raised ultra liberal and believes that this is how christian families are, "but its fine for islam, lol"

>>136912198
Indeed. It's a very short-sighted argument.

>>136911700
Exactly the same thing the progressives are doing to children today with all this gender bullshit. Filling their heads.

>>136911700
if you don't teach your kids, (((someone else))) will.

Do not be a victim of intellectual cuckoldry

>>136911949
>naturally atheist
atheism is a choice

>>136912554
Yeah, m8. Dunno if you didn't read my last sentence or are agreeing with me.

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>>136911700

Except when they abandon Christianity they start inseminating themselves with dog semen. The artist is simply buttflustered that his degeneracy isn't celebrated.

Give your life to God.

>>136912198
Shhh, let the atheist think he has it all figured out.

>>136911700
Bible thumpers are the worst kinds of Christians because they don't even read the bible. They just parrot the preacher.

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>>136911774
Just for you

When did you grow out of Atheism and back into religion?

20-21 for me

>>136912923
17 for me.

Re-edit but with sugarloaf helmets.

>>136912923
Same.

>>136912878
i'm cum
>mfw the pic didn't change the message and if anything has only added the church pedo scandals
.___>'

the book could be the quran as well for the shared pedo obession, but the woman would be cut from the pic

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>>136912863
To be fair, have you tried reading the fucking thing from the beginning? "And dickless begot weasel tits and and weasel tits begot Wowimmacunt". Very tiresome.

>>136911949
Wew, this has to be bait.

>>136913612
In what sense?

>>136911700
In a literal sense it is saying
>teaching your children about what you believe is brainwashing even though I would/do teach my children MY beliefs

>>136912198
The moral degeneracy we see in the West today is a symptom of the rejection of God and religion. It is the result of human advancement outpacing human evolution. We have not yet learned to live without God.

That anti-Christian zionist "art" sucks donkey balls

>>136912923
I came back to sanity at 23.
Our father showed me the path again to paradise and eternal life forever.

i'm not even a christcuck but that's a fucking garbage painting

it means you believe in something i dont therefore you are stupid, brainwashed,narrow minded etc.

Christian parents employing a con artists methods of distraction while forcing the child into a closed (book) minded method of thinking based on a mythical being from a story book written thousands of years ago. Resulting in a "narrow" point of view. I lived this.

>>136913964
Live without him? We barely learned to live with him.
>>136917007
>I let the genetic fallacy determine what's true and what's not
>>136911700
You can make even the most pretentious shit grotesque

>>136911700
The fact that leftists oppose religion, because it promotes healthy, working society.

>>136915028
I grew out of religion at around 15 or 16. The real reason I outgrew it was because I went to christian school and saw the hypocrisy, and I read the bible and saw all the inconsistencies in both teaching and commonly accepted knowledge on the bible and actual internal inconsistencies. That combined with the fact that there is no actual evidence for the existence of god and that any kind of supreme being could be said to exist with the same level of validity as the christian god are what helped me grow out of religion (which I had only accepted because it's what I grew up with). I never actually converted to atheism (well, agnostic atheism because I'm not a twat and there's no such thing as a true agnostic), I kind of just realized that that's what I was. I realized that there is no god, no heaven, and no absolute moral facts. That used to scare me, but I soon realized that it's actually quite liberating. You don't need to worry about some judgmental dickhead watching you and waiting for you to slip up (which you inevitably will, especially considering the incompatible teachings within the bible on what is and what is not a sin). For the first time ever, I was free to live my life and it brought me more joy than christianity ever did. I hope you soon outgrow religion, because despite being an 'evil atheist' I still hope for happiness for you.

> inb4 Pascal's wager
There are more than two options. Remember that the christian god won't allow you into heaven just for believing he exists, and a huge chunk of the other religions are mutually exclusive, so you have just as good a chance at picking the right one as an atheist: effectively 0.

>>136911700
It's attempting to show Christians imparting their faith on their child but in a way that shows the child being malleable and open minded prior to indoctrination.

It ignores the context that culture is imparted onto children by the parents and that this happens even in the absence of religion while also attempting to promote the "openess" of the childs potential in a sort of "it has to be retained until he finds his own path" which is part of post-modern society to place the bare minimum amount of social pressure while conveniently ignoring that academia takes up the role of being the cultural influencer.

In short, it speaks truth but has a cultural-marxist latent tone applied to it.

>>136917363
Christianity is a scam that does away with the faith of humans. I stopped believing in god because of christianity.
Today I believe in God, but not in the christian religion, which is nice, since it is a false religion.

>>136912198
Because it's natural to ascribe things we don't understand to the supernatural. Primitive humans didn't have science, so it's no surprise they attributed the things they didn't understand to god or magic or ghosts. Your point is moot because they don't describe the same god or even one that is remotely similar. The fact that primitive and uneducated (by our standards) humans said that magic keeps everything from floating on the earth does nothing to lend validity to the existence of god. People are naturally atheist by definition. Before learning about the concept of god you don't have any kind of opinion on god. Therefore, because you don't explicitly believe in the existence of god, you would be an atheist by definition.

>>136912554
It's actually not. Pretty much nobody actually converts to atheism. You kind of just realize you are an atheist and have been one for a while. That's what happens when you begin to think for yourself and the brainwashing wears off. This generally happens to people who are well educated.

>>136917490
I can respect this.

>>136917919
How do you explain the appearance of gnostics?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvPyipy8erg
This is a talk by a comic book author, the talk is a bit degenerate, because he insists he has done drugs and whatnot, but one of the points of the talk is his insistence on the fact that among other things he has seen magic at work, of course the account he gives is pretty nonsensical, but he insits we should try.
Coming from a gnostic worldview I don't see anything wrong with magic other than the problems associated with summoning entities, but it will be your call.
Like the comic book author says: don't believe the talk, just try it.
Son in short: do you believe meme magick did it for us?

>>136911700
The implication is indoctrination.
The picture is stupid, but that's what it's portraying.

>>136917919
>natural
>supernatural
Why don't you tell us all what is "natural" and what isn't? "Natural" is a meaningless term, given you can't distinguish what's natural from what's not natural without warping it's colloquial connotations to simply mean "exists".

>>136917363
>Remember that the christian god won't allow you into heaven just for believing he exists, and a huge chunk of the other religions are mutually exclusive, so you have just as good a chance at picking the right one as an atheist: effectively 0.
Don't forget that there are thousands of different Christian denominations that all have stark differences of belief and many of them believe the other denominations are so wrong that they're going to hell, and then even if you're non-denominational, there's shitloads of different translations of the Bible that nobody can agree on, many of which are translations of translations of translations, and, like you said, this is assuming Christianity is the correct religion, and not the thousands of other religions each with their dozens/hundreds/thousands of various denominations.

Really, all you can do is hope that, if there is a God, that he's not a dickhead, understands this dilemma, and wont condemn you to eternal suffering for making the wrong choice.

>>136918052
Do you mean gnosticism as in the school of thought that says that Jesus was not a form of god, but that he achieved divinity through gnosticism and that any follower can do so as well, or do you mean gnostics like gnostic atheists/gnostic theists? In the first case I would say that it is an attempted answer to one of the problems in the bible (you can't kill god/could an omnipotent being make himself weak enough to be killed by a person?). In the second case, I imagine that the tribalism of religion makes some people really want to believe, and as a result of wishful thinking, confirmation bias, and other factors people begin to actually believe that they know/have proven the existence or non-existence of god.

>>136918868
You can always believe without a religion, nobody is putting a gun to your temple.

>>136919020
No, more in the general notion that there is the perception that there is a dark power but a God above it.

>>136918629
In this context I'm using natural to basically mean anything that isn't supernatural. It would apply to the workings of the universe. In the example I used, the force keeping people from floating on earth is gravity (natural), not magic. Without god/magic everything that happens in the universe is natural (even if we can't explain it).

>>136918868
Yeah. That doesn't even take into account that humanity might not even know about the right religion. Maybe god's test is if humanity can find the correct religion and humanity could have failed.

The real issue is that atheism en masse almost always creates nihilism which, for society, is always a slow death

People need absolute values to function. Relativism is suicidal

>>136919265
>In this context I'm using natural to basically mean anything that isn't supernatural
So what is supernatural? If God created the world, why would anything necessarily appear to you to be any different than it is now?

Nobody believes this one, but I did have an experience with god after like 27 years of being a fedora, I did feel as if I was fusing with god, and to my understanding this would be a gnosis.
What came after this was a long search of religions to see what kind of agreed with this experience and others I had had, and the only religion that kind of made sense was gnosticism, because I would open a bible randomly to go and ask god things and god would really answer, you could veryfy it, but he would be a total cunt, so I got this notion that he could be the demiurge.
The other option is that it is a completely unknown religion with a very shitty and powerful devil that likes pretending that he is the christian god.

>>136912236
This. Yet the same artist will happily march for Muslims in a parade, because it's only bad if white Christians do it.

>>136913468
you'd get more (you)s with a hammer and sickle flag

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>>136917919
>Because it's natural to ascribe things we don't understand to the supernatural.

Many, if not most, religions did not spawn from a god-of-the-gaps issue.

>People are naturally atheist by definition.
>Pretty much nobody actually converts to atheism.

Reminder that atheism isn't a substantial view. A person coming to understand the world is no where near the same as a mainstream atheist in worldview.

>think for yourself
>brainwashing
>actually defending this bullshit on /pol/

r/atheism please go

>>136918868
>Don't forget that there are thousands of different Christian denominations that all have stark differences of belief and many of them believe the other denominations are so wrong that they're going to hell

Well this is a lie, there is roughly two or three major branches of Christianity. Only one of them has thousands of subgroups and they largely agree and are friendly to one another theologically.

>there's shitloads of different translations of the Bible that nobody can agree on

There are 2 and they are left alone to their denominations. One has an official version with various translations for different purposes and the other has multiple versions with very small issues between them.

>>136911700
>What is this picture trying to convey?
That religion is a cycle which molds people into the faith by having their parents mold them into believers.

The child is molded by the parent, the parents were molded by their parents, their parents got molded by their parents etc and all in the name of becoming believers.

>>136919647
seems like it that seeing how the elite are Saturn blood sacrifice cult leaders.

>>136912198
What he meant to say is that people are born non-believeing, as they have not been though/indoctrinated to do so yet.

>>136911700
It implies that religion is mandatory, spreads like a disease and makes humans weak.

>>136919647
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rQYH-DTeP8

>>136919087
Oh, ok. Well, I think that part of the way humans think is that there is good and evil. There are actions that are good (helping someone), and bad (hurting someone in your tribe). I think this developed the same way that humans being a social species developed: that it is helpful to reproducing and passing on your genes (killing people all willy nilly would hurt your tribe and make it less likely for you to protect yourself and, therefore mate). Now, because there are these ideas of good and evil, I think humans created the idea of an evil being to explain the bad things that happen to them. Blaming a supernatural being for your child being killed is as natural as using god to explain the sun.

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>>136911700
The open Bible represents indoctrination and the camera lenses on the Bible heads represent the child's parents always watching him to make sure he lives up to their contrived expectations

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>>136919842
So wait, are you then saying that the child would not be molded by the parent is the parent were not religious?


>If so, would society then mold the child?
>If not, isn't your claim about religion shortsighted as it is true of any view that is of value to the parent to teach?

>>136919940
r/atheism pls go

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>>136919819
>>136920192
Why do you call yourself Wolfshiem?

>>136920404
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/108242429/#108260077

>>136911700
Brainwashing your children.

>>136911949
These people saying when you are born, you automatically understand god and know he's there. Spoiler, there is no god

>>136920621
What isn't "brainwashing"? Telling people there's no objective morality and everything is arbitrary nonsense and that whatever they can get away with is free game?

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>>136919758
not in it for the (You)'s I just like looking at old soviet anti-religious propaganda

mini-dump inc

>>136919449
> if god created the world
I think you're making a bit of an assumption, there. Quite the leap. It doesn't really matter, though, because natural would be anything that isn't a direct action of god, ghosts, whatever, while supernatural is. If god created the universe, then gravity and other natural things would be indirect actions of god.

>>136919819
>Many, if not most, religions did not spawn from a god-of-the-gaps issue.
People who are christian have tiny penises. See, I can just make up random 'facts' too.

> Reminder that atheism isn't a substantial view.

Yeah, that's kind of the point. Instead of just making claims with no evidence like religions do, atheism (well, agnostic atheism) sticks with what logic can provide us.

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>>136920565
>Naming yourself after a literal kike
Somehow I knew that's where you got it. Explains why you're always peddling Jewish nonsense

>>136920679
Who are "these people"?

>>136911700
Projection.
Liberals always accuse their enemy of what they themselves are doing or wish to do to those who oppose them.

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>Yeah, that's kind of the point. Instead of just making claims with no evidence like religions do, atheism (well, agnostic atheism) sticks with what logic can provide us

Please do not lie. Atheism says nothing about logic and reason innately. Atheism says nothing. It isn't a view. The word itself means "not theism". At best it can be understood as a lack of a kind of view (not having theistic views) or a kind of view (views that aren't theistic). And because theism is so tremendously varied, "being an atheist" says next to nothing about what you actually hold as your view. It says nothing about logic and reason. It says nothing about the natural and supernatural sans a lack of deities.

Stop hiding behind vague terms and actually defend something substantial.

>making claims with no evidence

Don't bullshit me and generalize such a massive group so crudely.

>>136920783
>I think you're making a bit of an assumption
No - I'm asking how you would distinguish a world created by God from a world not created by God.

>because natural would be anything that isn't a direct action of god, ghosts, whatever, while supernatural is
So by your definition, if God created the world, the entire world would be supernatural. And you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the natural and the supernatural, given the world could appear to you exactly as it does right now.

>>136920901
>>136920889
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>>136920868
It's honestly sad to see what happened to the USSR. I hope it can be amended in Russia.

Raise a kid so that they never hear of any religion or god.

>He's still gonna be duh christian errr.

No wonder you cunts are losing to mudslimes. You're still trying to fight religious wars physically when the true battle is in the mind. All you need to do is make the mudslimes realize how stupid their beliefs are and put a stop to the brainwashing.

The same thing you're shilling for is what caused the mudslime invasion in the first place.

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>>136920783
>because natural would be anything that isn't a direct action of god, ghosts, whatever, while supernatural is

It's not a good idea to parse terms without giving reasons for the distinction. Let alone defining one group as containing "whatever". Please start using that reason and logic you triumph.

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I like to cum in church and feed my cum to church.

That said, I'll always defend it because once you outlaw it, you are on the path to socialism.

Also, I need people to feed my cum to.

Where's the muzzie version?

What many people don't get is that following a religion is the worst you can do.
We live in a world pretty similar to the gnostic mythos, there's the demiurge, there are the archons and they are to be found and whorshipped in the world's religions, but it gets worse, there is a subset of other spirits, minor archons, who are to be found outside of religion, it doesn't end there though, some of these archons are incarnated as the majority of the population.
Yes, you read that right. Your friends, your family, they are archons, they want you trapped here with the demiurge to fuck you up.
You may never have seen a clue, which means they won't go crazy on you, but if you had seen evidence, they'd start hating you more (they already hate you, you may have noticed it). You can escape, but there is little you can do apart from asking God for it.
Religion? Useless.
Spiritual Practice? Rigged
Magic? Handle with care if you have to deal with spirits.